This Political Season, Americans Need To Chill Out
People are letting politics poison relationships, workplaces, and our whole society.

Are you voting for the presidential candidate known in some circles as Comrade Kamala? For her opponent who is allegedly simultaneously channeling Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini? For Chase Oliver or another third party candidate? Or maybe you've had enough with low-payoff gestures and you're taking a pass on the political drama as a nonvoter.
In any case, you're likely trying to making the best of a situation in which candidates vie to be less unpopular and options are more than a little unpalatable. There's also a good chance that, despite your sincere efforts to choose the least-bad option, you've received a ration of shit from true believers who insist voting differently than them makes you just evil. Unfortunately, many people let politics taint their lives in weird ways and damage relationships. In truth, a lot of Americans need to chill the fuck out.
The spreading poison of political hatred is clearly affecting the way people interact—or if they interact.
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Relationships Shattered Over Disagreements
"28% of Americans say they find it either very stressful (9%) or somewhat stressful (19%) to spend time with friends or family members who don't share their political views," according to a September Yahoo News/YouGov poll. "Some 26% of Democrats and 30% of Harris voters say they have had a friendship or family relationship end because of a disagreement over politics; 24% of Republicans and 24% of Trump voters also say they had ended a relationship over politics."
I haven't ended relationships over political views, but I have been cut off by old college friends because I don't share their knee-jerk loyalty to the "correct" candidates and causes. I do understand how stressful this can all be. On the way to dinner, a friend in the shotgun seat of my car recently shouted objections every time he saw political signs with which he disagreed. There were a lot of signs.
My good deed for the week was not kicking him out the door while the vehicle was in motion.
Workplaces have been poisoned by political feuds, too. A survey earlier this year by the Society for Human Resource Management found "20% of employees said they had been mistreated at work by their co-workers or peers due to their political views." A third of respondents say they expect things to get worse with the approach of the November election.
The problem seems to be getting worse. While 28 percent of workers of all ages told Indeed/Harris pollsters they might resign their jobs over political differences at work, "nearly 40% of workers aged 18-34 would leave a job because of political differences at work, and 40% of this same age range would also leave if their CEO expressed political views they disagreed with."
Given that disinterest in reaching across partisan lines is especially pronounced with the younger, set, it's no surprise that political disputes are poisoning male-female relationships. In recent years, young men's politics have tended to the center or center-right while young women have drifted far to the left.
"In the US, Gallup data shows that after decades where the sexes were each spread roughly equally across liberal and conservative world views, women aged 18 to 30 are now 30 percentage points more liberal than their male contemporaries," John Burn-Murdoch commented earlier this year in the Financial Times.
Inevitably, that has resulted in dating apps adding political criteria to their services so that users can filter out potential partners who disagree with them on taxes, social policy, or which contender should get a chance to make the government a bit more obnoxious and intrusive.
"Political polarization in dating represents a microcosm of a larger issue: of people choosing to 'isolate ourselves from disagreeable points of views' and being increasingly able to do so," Casey Klofstad, a professor of political science at University of Miami, cautioned in a CNN piece this month.
An 'Oil Spill' of Politics Into Unrelated Areas of Life
The tendency to isolate ourselves from "disagreeable" points of view has grown in recent years. In doing so it has seeped into areas of life that aren't explicitly political, like dating and workplaces. It's also affecting music preferences and brand choices as they become badges of partisanship.
"Political divisions have become broader and it seems that these divisions have come to incorporate much more and include opinions that were once not involved," Daniel DellaPosta, a Penn State sociologist, found in his research four years ago.
In his paper, DellaPosta referred to the phenomenon as an "oil spill" in which political polarization "spreads from its source to gradually taint more and more previously 'apolitical' attitudes, opinions, and preferences."
Which is how we get potential romantic partners who might be capable of putting up with each other's quirks rejecting matches because of voting preferences. It's why workplaces simmer over partisan hostilities. It explains friendships that survived decades of good and bad times ending over a pen mark on a ballot. It's how relatives who endured grandma's cooking through several generations stop speaking to each other in the course of an election campaign.
It's also how we get political violence. Reuters reported at least 51 incidents this year, including two attempts on Donald Trump's life as well as lower-profile shootings, assaults, arson attacks, and the like. The news service describes these events together as "the biggest and most sustained increase in political violence since the 1970s."
Political Differences Shouldn't Taint All of Our Choices
That doesn't mean political opinions aren't important or that they can't be deal-killers. Is that woman on the dating app an actual communist? Yeah, I'd take a pass on that. Is that guy at your workplace really a Nazi? I'd avoid him, too. Better yet, introduce those two—just for shits and giggles.
But within the normal range of opinion, nobody is ever going to completely agree with anybody else. Creating ideological and partisan litmus tests for family, friends, lovers, and co-workers is a guarantee of damaging social fractures—and greater splintering as the purity tests become more exacting. We can't make space for deviationists, can we? And off we retreat into our shrinking bubbles.
None of this is necessary or inevitable. Americans need to chill the fuck out.
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"In recent years, young men's politics have tended to the center or center-right while young women have drifted far to the left."
Well yeah, would YOU get along very well with people who want to turn YOU into a womb-slave? Conversely, with people who want to tax you at the 95% level or more, and then brag about their moral-ethical superiority?
Which is the rhetoric that has turned most young women into paranoid neurotic if thales are not given an unlimited right to kill their children. The same type of paranoia thar claim any "wage gap" is caused by systemic sexism rather than the cumulative statistical effect of what jobs and what hours women prefer to work.
The United States, under the Roe regime, was the most radically pro-abortion First World nation. The efforts to normalize the ethics of our abortion laws with the rest of the civilized world has led to an insane response from the nihilistic Progressive Left.
And YOU are that problem.
What "children"? You figured out how to put your imagination into a *REAL* world living child yet? While you carry on being so religiously bigoted you pack water for the "Progressive Left" Catholic Democrat cause of Pro-Life. Republicans wrote RvW.
Jesse, what the Hell are you talking about?
The babies that were aborted. Thats ‘what children’.
Nuh-uh. Until the Birth Canal Fairy snaps her fingers, it's just a clump of cells.
100% Self-Projection 101.
Pro-Life’s fairy-tale imagination snaps their fingers and demands there’s a baby but can’t seem to demonstrate a living baby anywhere in the *real* world.
Talk about imaginary “Fairy” concepts. It just doesn’t get much richer than fairy-tale creatures that need to be ‘saved’. Only topped by the notion that Gov-Gun FORCED organ donation must be that 'saving' required for their imaginary-unicorn.
If Gov-Guns force me to pay for your abortion against my conscience then it's a wash that Gov-Guns force you to carry that clump of cells to term past a certain point of viability determined by said Gov-Guns.
Doubling down on "Gov-Guns force" is just doubling-down on any free-nations self-destruction.
The correction resides in repealing or Constitutionally LIMITING any legislation that "Gov-Guns forces" you to pay or 'carry' for anyone else unjustly.
Thanks for proving my point.
"... it’s just a clump of cells."
All living organisms are "just a clump of cells."
Including Cancer. Difference being; cancer doesn't have an *inherent* right to life. Pro-Life just as well be banning cancer treatment to 'save a life'.
"Including Cancer. Difference being; cancer doesn’t have an *inherent* right to life."
Difference is we're talking about human life, not a cancer cell.
If that unborn baby is human, it stands to reason it has a constitutional right to due process whether or not it should live or not.
If the unborn baby does not have a right to due process to determine if it has a right to live, then who is next?
People with brown eyes?
Ass Sacred Fartilized-Egg-Smells WorShitting PROGRESSES among the PROGRESSIVE womb-slavers, LITERAL clumps of (obliviously NON-viable) CANCER SMELLS will take precedence ovary the NON-rights of womb-slaves!!! Thanks, fanatics, can the womb-slaves have another?!?!
Oklahoma now vying with Idaho for most fanatical!
https://news.yahoo.com/woman-cancerous-pregnancy-told-wait-215500885.html
Woman with Cancerous Pregnancy Was Told to Wait in Parking Lot Until She Was 'Crashing'
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/molar-pregnancy/symptoms-causes/syc-20375175
From there, we see that MOLAR PREGNANCIES ARE NEVER VIABLE!!! Yet fascist assholes like sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds want to endanger women in the Sacred Name of Unique Human DNA, which is present in a womb-slave!
From the listed source…
There are two types of molar pregnancy — complete molar pregnancy and partial molar pregnancy. In a complete molar pregnancy, the placental tissue swells and appears to form fluid-filled cysts. There is no fetus.
In a partial molar pregnancy, the placenta might have both regular and irregular tissue. There may be a fetus, but the fetus can’t survive. The fetus usually is miscarried early in the pregnancy.
So, who is next on the murder list?
The mentally retarded?
People confined to wheelchairs.
The homeless?
The mentally ill?
People who are left-handed?
You're going down a very slippery slope, a slope that was welcomed by the progressives a hundred years ago and refined by Hitler and his pals.
Plus, there is the issue of responsibility, an issue the radical left avoids like the plague.
Both parties having sex are responsible for birth control, not society, and butchering the unborn is not logical since there are so many couples desperately trying to adopt.
Yes, Uncle Jay, I know, womb-slaves should be FORCED to bring to term, non-viable clumps of cancer cells!!! Because of slippery slopes!!!
Slippery slopes, for dippery dopes, ALSO mean that we can NOT harshly punish thieves and rapists, because next thing ya know, we'll be harshly punishing people for mass-murdering tooth decay bacteria when they brush their teeth!
(I hope that I am not starting a new "thing" here with mentally, morally, and ethically unbalanced fanatics... Please do NOT punish me for killing tooth-decay bacteria!!!)
What… You don’t think cancer cells are ‘human’?
How do you think they got there?
Also – Even if you want to dismiss the lack of *inherent* right to life. Not even brown eyed people are *entitled* to Women’s bodies against their own will.
The Pro-Life arguments are 100% religious-slavery based without any Liberty or Justice argument to them what-so-ever. Even if they had some ‘evidence’ of *inherent* life existing they have no legal-bases to TAKE Individual Liberty (right for Women to own their very own F'En body). "The right of the people to be secure in their persons".
Cancer, if left alone, isn’t going to eventually grow into a fully formed and functional child/adolescent/adult.
This argument remains stupid. Do better to represent the pro-choice position.
That *is* the pro-choice position.
Fertilized Eggs if left alone don't grow into fully formed functional child/adolescent/adult EITHER.
Otherwise Pro-Life advocates would support an Individual Right to Fetal Ejection.
Pro-Life *IS* the Gov-Gun FORCE them to reproduce Aggressors.
They are the one's who just can't "leave it alone".
It depends on where they’re left alone?
You put either into a woman’s uterus (voluntarily of course) and see which one develops into a fetus first. (Spoiler alert, it’s not the clump of cancer cells.)
So it’s no different than kicking a bumb out of your house then is it?
Do you think a persons house is more sacred than Women’s own bodies?
Power-mad Politicians shouldn't be claiming 'ownership' of anybodies wife's body.
Maybe if you're kicking the bum out into -40 degree weather without appropriate clothing. Forcing someone into an environment where he cannot survive is murder.
But wait, I remember from our last conversation that you disagreed that taking a toddler out into the woods and leaving him there to die was manslaughter, so I think you're a bit unhinged when it comes to abortion.
It has nothing to do with them killing their children actually. Liberal women are something like 25-40% more likely to be diagnosed with a mental disorder than conservative or independent women. They're just more likely to be some form of nuts period.
"It has nothing to do with them killing"
^THIS^ Obviously true by the mere fact they won't just legislate the 'procedure' (the act).
It IS ALL about Gov-Gun FORCED reproduction.
In the last election, EVERYONE who tried to exercise their “inalienable” right to free speech identifying election irregularities was censored, banned, deplatformed and persecuted INCLUDING the sitting president of the United States.
So THIS TIME chill out and take it up the ass without complaining.
You know sleepy joe won’t be complaining
Well Said +100000000.
Except that 'Federal' Womb-Slavery was not the [R] mistake. Throwing the 4A & 13A under the bus for State 'democracy' was because of 'moral standards'.
Electing Democrats at the 'Federal' level does nothing because Dobbs was actually a Democrats Foundation ruling ('democracy' is everything). Democrats are never going to ensure the 4A & 13A because Democrats don't believe the Constitution rules above their 'democracy'.
There is NOTHING democratic about the Democrat party. The recent White House coup to oust a senile old man and replace him with a low functioning female moron speaks loudly about this sorry political party now infiltrated and taken over by radical left wing extremists and neo-Marxists.
They plan to do the same to this nation.
And the only thing more NOTHING "democratic about the Democratic party" is the NOTHING "respect for the US Constitution". If they can 'democratically' VOID the Supreme Law of the Land they champion 'democracy'. If they can't 'democratically' VOID the Supreme Law of the Land they use Executive Fiat.
Given what the democrats are doing, we aren’t divided enough.
Soon, very soon will come secession and nullification.
Ron Paul is right.
Secession won't do any good unless Immigration is properly controlled.
The "conquer and consume" mentality has no desire to be self-sustainable.
This is a lot of both-sidesing. Why not mention how it is those on the left who are more aggressive and hostile while also being at least 2x as likely to cut people out of their lives over politics?
The options are a completely empty suit and a guy with a proven track record that is mixed, but overall positive.
Over the weekend we attended a few different social events. Some were a more mixed crowd politically. It works fine if you make your strong statements, but mostly stick to things you can agree upon. Unless you're dealing with rabid left partisans, you will find plenty of agreement on systemic corruption and that the government doesn't give a fuck about us. Race, wealth, and immigration status doesn't effect agreement on those issues IMO.
Get away from talking about cult of personality bs and you can find more agreement.
Yeah. Skimmed, didn’t read, the article.
My neighbors who have Harris signs in their yard have uteruses and references to abortion on them, “banned” books, and Rosie the Riveter on them. Those signs are in addition to the Ukraine flags (have not seen any Palestinian flags) and the long standing “In this house we believe…” signs that have their own litany of issues that the homeowner insists are morally unquestionable and politically correct. There are more “Little lending libraries” in my neighborhood than there are kids, and the kids virtually all own cell phones. One neighbor even has a "Vote" sign on their porch as a sort of dog whistle.
My neighbors who have Trump signs or flags in their yard have Trump flags or signs in their yard. The “Obnoxious” one has Trump and Vance’s face on it with a lion in the background.
One of the candidates is running ads, political ads, that closes with saying “I will never play politics with personal issues.” I live in Illinois, a solid, Democratic stronghold. AFAICT, the Trump voters are the least retarded.
It’s not just politics and the idea that it is is a lie. One side has adopted and turned persistent displays of false virtue as part of their political movement. When you pay the government to “Do your good deeds.” on your behalf, you have to demonstrate your virtue some other way. Rittenhouse… Damore… Sandman… these people didn’t get singled out or attacked because of who they were voting for.
Your issue is never the issue. Their issue is never the issue. Their issue is to distract you from their need for power and control.
The signs and flags you describe perfectly match the tony town in the Blue State paradise I live in. It is obsequious and obnoxious simultaneously.
I can imagine a town full of Tony’s would be awful. Having one here in the comments was bad enough.
One neighbor even has a “Vote” sign on their porch as a sort of dog whistle.
lol what is a "dog whistle" about a "Vote" sign? As they say, if you can hear the dog whistle, you must be the dog...
Then I guess I should buy a retard whistle so I can call you.
It’s funny you say that with as often as you accuse certain people of blowing the racist/homophobe/xenophobe ones…
So, here is my little anecdote.
I also live in a somewhat mixed neighborhood, slightly leaning blue. So I see quite a few Harris/Walz signs, along with signs for Team Blue politicians in other races. I don't seen lending libraries, I don't see Ukraine flags, I don't see "In this house we believe..." signs, I don't see 'dog whistle' "VOTE" signs. Just typical election year signs.
I see a few Trump/Vance signs, but there is one neighbor who is obnoxious about it. He had a giant Trump 2020 flag flying in his yard for years after the election (no doubt because he believed Trump 'rightfully won'), he only took it down I suspect because it got completely tattered and faded. This is also the guy who drives around with a beater pickup truck with a Confederate flag license plate cover, and he quite frequently ignores the city rules for open burning and will burn piles of debris in his yard all year round. Incidentally, Confederate Redneck's neighbors are this biracial couple. I wonder what they think of Confederate Redneck.
My favorite are the guys who tune their diesel trucks to belch out clouds of black smoke whenever they accelerate, while their Trump flags wave in a blaze of inconsiderate glory.
In my experience, there is a strong correlation between being a Trump supporter, and being an obnoxious self-centered asshole.
Priceless. The same one's whining about finding an "enemy" below are here defining the "enemy" by their trucks, flags and party affiliation and nothing else.
A little less self-projection and a little more self-recognition needed.
Your comment proves you are an intolerant bigot - just the kind of person who causes the problems. I don't know if you are an asshole, but you are behaving like one.
You left out he's a steaming pile of lefty shit.
How many Trump supporters are part of the Cajon navy and Redneck air force?
In my experience, there is a strong correlations between being a Harris supporter, even one who lies and claims to support Oliver, and being a morbidly obese sophist pedophile.
Sounds much like a lot of obnoxious Harris supporters and democrats in general.
Don't forget, several congressional Democrats have openly stated they will not accept Trump's election.
Numerous Dems have openly called for Trump's assassination. Many are threatening outright rioting if Trumps wins.
One of the goals if the Harris-Walz platform is the curtailing of free speech and gun confiscation.
"My favorite are the guys who tune their diesel trucks to belch out clouds of black smoke whenever they accelerate..."
I wasn't aware of this "Meme" here till a few days ago, but check out "rolling coal"... Spending perfectly good money just to pollute and be obnoxious!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal
Rolling coal (also spelled rollin' coal) is the practice of modifying a diesel engine to deliberately emit large amounts of black or grey diesel exhaust, containing soot and incompletely combusted diesel. Rolling coal is used as a form of anti-environmentalism protest.[1] In most jurisdictions it is illegal, due to violating clean air laws, and also reduces the fuel economy of the vehicle.
My favorite are guys who pontificate peace, love and tolerance and then steal or burn down other peoples' property like in Portland or Seattle.
I see a few Trump/Vance signs, but there is one neighbor who is obnoxious about it. He had a giant Trump 2020 flag flying in his yard for years after the election (no doubt because he believed Trump ‘rightfully won’), he only took it down I suspect because it got completely tattered and faded.
this is so perfect. he's 'obnoxious' for having a trump flag. That's it. and your projection into what's going on in his mind is just the cherry on top. Thank for you for demonstrating.
I can't think of anyone more obnoxious and self-righteous than some leftist cheerleader.
I have seen them take away pro-Trump signs on other peoples' property too many times to count demonstrating once again there is no one more intolerant than a "tolerant" liberal.
" has Trump and Vance’s face on it with a lion in the background."
Hahaha
Better than the one with Harris and Walz’s faces on it and a more idly obese blue haired drag queen (Pedo Jeffy) in the background.
a guy with a proven track record that is mixed, but overall positive.
Like that "overall positive" riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6 that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with whatsoever.
Ray Epps is not on the ballot.
You are exactly right. It was Ray Epps who waged a monthslong campaign, starting even before the 2020 election, claiming that it was all rigged. It was Ray Epps who launched every legal challenge imaginable to stop the result, and when none of that worked, devised a scheme with John Eastman to ignore the law and the Constitution and to have Mike Pence choose the winner of the election. It was Ray Epps who organized the rally on Jan. 6 in the first place, and told the crowd to go to the Capitol to make their voices heard, but *wink wink* to do so "patriotically and peacefully". It was Ray Epps who did nothing for hours as the violence at the Capitol unfolded, and then when he was begged to make some sort of statement, offered a mealy mouthed "I love you now go home". You are absolutely right, if that Ray Epps guy was on the ballot, I would think that any patriotically inclined person would refuse to vote for him. But good thing he's not on the ballot, right?
Boy, are you going to be sad next week.
Just think of all the sweet, sweet, salty tears that will be shed. Get out your rain barrel!
Keep gaslighting, fatty.
Nothing I wrote above is substantively incorrect.
Stop shilling for Orangeman.
He used to be capable of the occasional intelligent conversation, but he’s gone full retard now. Election fever. All he cares about is scoring points. So fuck him. No point in engaging.
Yeah, he's basically devolved into Jesse but with puns.
I, for one, would urge Chumpy Chump to... Stick to his puns!
(And leave fellating the Orange One behind, AND simply leaving the Orange One's Behind! The Orange One will NEVER share His Queen Spermy Daniels anyway, no matter HOW hopefully one debases oneself!!)
Nobody likes puns, and nobody likes Jesse.
Do you think anyone likes a homeless, weasel drunk?
Questioning highly questionable election irregularities ≠ inciting a riot. No matter how many times you type it and how many times TDSarc fists bumps it.
Fatman and Bobbin, the Dynamic Trio
Trump was not even there!
How could he have caused the riot?
You democrats say the most vicious and provocative things every day, including on the nightly news, and have burned out whole sections of cities over long months. Republicans had a small incident over a few hours at the capitol where almost nothing happened. There isn’t even equivalence. Political violence is nearly 100% you democrats.
You just want republicans to be quiet, milquetoast, controlled opposition. Well, those days are over. Best you learn your place, you groomer pinko.
OK Mr. "I'm completely rational all the time", try repeating everything you said in front of a jury to convince them that Trump actually orchestrated the riot. Gee, why wasn't Trump officially charged with inciting violence?
Hey, I can play connect the dots too. You and the TDS crowd called Trump Hitler for years, and subjected him to nonsensical legal warfare. So you're guilty of inciting the assassination attempts on him. Maybe I should blame Biden and Harris if migrants commit acts of terrorism? Oh wait, I CAN do that.
Trump has 100% right to challenge election results, whether hypocrites like you like it or not. Anything he did only rises to the level of crime if he KNEW he lost and sought illegal means to overturn the election. Democrats have a history of not contesting election results. Insurrections require a plot to overthrow government, meaning J6 is only an "insurrection" to fanatics like yourselves whose only agenda in life is in hating Trump.
Trump did nothing to subvert democracy. Joe Biden keeps on forgiving student loans despite the SC forbidding him to do so. Zelensky cancelled elections, took over state media, and authorized kidnapping the mentally disabled and exempt individuals to fight in wars. Not a whisper from you, Chemjeff.
Go on, do that schtick of yours where you accuse of us of playing team games. You don't play team games, you hate both sides equally. Snickers.
Do you think it's a "negative" to insist election laws be enforced?
No matter how much the BS about J6 insists; Governors changed election laws by executive fiat (+ a million other things) which is undeniably a violation of the election process.
When Al Gore lost at the Supreme Court in 2000, he said: "I accept the finality of the outcome."
He didn't say "I agree with the court." He didn't say "I disagree with the court and even though there are no more legal options left for me, I will keep fighting." I am quite certain that he thought he was robbed, that he "rightfully won" the 2000 election. But he did not drag the country through hell trying to fight a battle that could only be fought with ugly dirty tactics. I disagree with almost all of Al Gore's policies, but I admire how he handled himself that day. That is how a respectable leader acts. Trump is not a respectable leader.
Trump is not a respectable leader.
Has anyone ever said he was?
Do you think Trump was removed forcefully or what?
Did you call out Al Gore for insurrection for questioning election results?
Your 'respect' is foundation-less and nothing but bias and prejudice.
You left out "stupidity".
I disagree with almost all of Al Gore’s policies, but I admire how he handled himself that day. That is how a respectable leader
Gore corrupted the election process by demanding votes be counted using different standards in places more reliably Dem than elsewhere violating the equal protection clause. He was able to do this because Dems have replaced objective administrators with political activists corrupting both the election system and the judiciary both of whom supported this obvious and outrageous corruption.
Jeffey's conclusion: I admire him.
While Jeffey pretends he's not a leftist his assertions prove otherwise.
When Al Gore lost at the Supreme Court in 2000
And all the Bush-haters whine about it to this day.
I thought even the corrupt establishment media claimed to do a recount/analysis somewhere down the line proving Bush did, in fact, actually win the most votes in Florida in 2000 (after a few claiming he didn't).
He still whines and cries about how he really won. So fuck off with that noise.
Trump had nothing to do with the Capitol riot.
Indeed. Trump actually told people to be respectful and remain civil.
Something the previous rioters in D.C. did not.
My guess is if things don’t work out with Harris and Walz they will be screaming “burn, baby, burn”. And given their deranged post birth abortion views, maybe quite literally.
Yeah, that’s how free speech works…
"Why not mention how it is those on the left who are more aggressive and hostile while also being at least 2x as likely to cut people out of their lives over politics?"
umm.... they did mention it.... and it wasn't 2X, it was 30% versus 24%
but good job demonstrating how the complete stupidity of both tribes is the problem. you won't accept how your team is fucking things up at all, you can only (falsely) claim it is ONLY the other team that is fucking everything up.
"...but good job demonstrating how the complete stupidity of both tribes is the problem...
Good job demonstrating what a TDS-addled pile of steaming shit you are.
FOAD, asshole.
SQUAWK!!
this ass clown is such a loser he gets triggered about TDS when Trump isn't even mentioned at all.
You have historically displayed retarded levels of TDS.
The study itself is damningly unclear in its language. It says "30% of Harris voters say they have had a friendship or family relationship end..." using a deceptive passive voice (i.e., 30% of democrats could have ended those relationships or 30% could have been victims of ended relationships) but is more clear on the republican side.
Anecdotally, it is overwhelmingly young liberal women who cut ties and refuse relationships with conservatives.
Easy for libertarians to say "chill the f out". Being surrounded by conservatives and progressives, that's what we have to do every single day, or else we have to go live in a hole somewhere.
In The Big Sort, there's nowhere we can move to, so we have to learn to play nice with Trump and Harris voters, as bat-crap crazy and simpleton as they are. 🙂
People who chose an openly gay, 'closeted' progressive candidate that supports drag queen story hours, medically sterilizing kids in the name of gender transition, and hasn't ever won an election and clearly wouldn't know what to do if he did; should not cast 'bat-shit crazy and simpleton' stones.
Yes, the "'closeted' progressive" that wants to end Social Security, wants a balanced budget amendment, and supports gun rights. Next thing you know AOC will be brandishing an AR-15.
Chase’s 2A video was using Fudd firearms. His virtue signaling has been progressive hence the term “closet progressive.” He’s not raising much money, even compared with JoJo and GayJay (some of that may be the Biden-Harris economy),so others are seeing through the facade as well.
Saw a national poll yesterday with Chase at 0.1% and Stein at 0.9%.
Looks like the LP candidate will be coming in the rear.
“We don’t think he’s a leftist because he’s gay. We’re just going to call him a 'closet' progressive, he he he he. But don’t you dare say we hate him because he’s gay. See how clever we are?”
You are the only one concerned with him being gay.
sarc, "If you don't vote for Chase Oliver ... You're a homophobe!"
The left has used that tactic more than once to get *special* entitlement.
yasafi
You know you're really the only commenter here who mocks gays, right?
Being a closeted *insert thing here* can refer to vast amounts of people without reference to being gay. Stop projecting your own biases.
Closets are for skeletons that you don't want people to see/know about. they don't belong exclusively to the gay community.
Don't fear BTR, we have a few "bat-cr*p crazy" Libertarians of our own. Like the ones that took over the LP. Or the ones who said we all needed to move to New Hampshire and "take it over".
"Our"?
FOAD, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Political division is fine as long as people have the ability to leave their current homes to where they are more welcome.
Our sorting will only make the inevitable divorce easier.
Such as when a Reason editor called for a red wedding against conservative journalists.
Another Reason "reporter":
In 2020 I broke my 16-year streak of not voting in presidential elections because I thought Donald Trump was actually unfit for office by whatever standard you wanted to use: mentally, emotionally, ethically. It turns out I was 100 percent correct, because then he tried to steal the election and ginned up a mob of his fans to storm the Capitol building.
No he did not.
"nearly 40% of workers aged 18-34 would leave a job because of political differences at work, and 40% of this same age range would also leave if their CEO expressed political views they disagreed with."
Says a lot about the perceived strength of the job market.
The recent events concerning Jeff Bezos' WaPo and even the N.Y. Times indicate just how far left the media has drifted.
Those editorial writers who were refused to have their paper endorse a candidate resigned, AFAIK (or maybe that was the LA Times).
Good riddance. Maybe the boss is trying to establish a NEWS paper rather than a DNC propaganda sheet.
Not holding my breath but anything’s possible.
Just consider how far Elon has taken Twitter/X….enough to make him public enemy number one in the eyes of the Dems (neo-Marxists.)
One editor resigned, from the LA Times.
Yeah, I broadly agree with the sentiment here. We're all people, we are all Americans, we have far more in common than what separates us. The people who think there is some civil war coming, they are too deep into the kool-aid to realize how much we have in common. Frankly there would be too much to lose, on all sides, if any civil war occurred. The bigger danger IMO, is not that two sides will tear itself apart, but that the government will seize more and more power KNOWING that the price for refusing gets higher and higher each time.
The bigger danger IMO, is not that two sides will tear itself apart, but that the government will seize more and more power KNOWING that the price for refusing gets higher and higher each time.
Yup. It’s amazing how much power people will give to government based upon promises to use it against the other team, never realizing or caring that it will be used against them when the other team gets into power again.
Those who aided in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia found that out the hard way.
When the Marxists finally took control, they simply rid themselves of their useful idiots.
In this cycle it has been Kamala et al who have mentioned packing the Supreme Court, tossing out the filibuster, and are attacking Trump in every way possible.
It's not evenly distributed. Most of the power grab/maintain is coming from the leftists. They accuse Trump of all sorts of shenanigans that they are already doing.
""caring that it will be used against them when the other team gets into power again"
Then perhaps you should be more concerned when influential groups start calling someone Hitler.
The get Trump out by any means crowd has no problem using a means that sets the stage for what you are referring too.
Btw, I was hanging with a bunch of liberals last night and more than half of them were agreeing that the next shooter shouldn't miss. They were literally desiring using assassination as a way of keeping someone they hate out of office.
I don't know one Trump fan that desires the assassination of Harris.
Political violence has been normalized by the Left.
Indeed. Ever since the riots over a drug addicted career criminal's death from fentanyl, the rioting has become even more destructive and dangerous.
Washington, D.C. was not excluded. The riots that took place the summer before the last election proved to be as violent and destructive as any others.
What separates us ............
**************IS***********
How much POWER the government should have.
"we have far more in common than what separates us"
2020 disabused me of the idea that most people in this country desire liberty over safety. Of course that showed that I was definitely in the minority, so I guess you're right, from a certain perspective.
People are acting precisely as they're being told to act. I mean Trump is now officially Hitler. How do you expect people to act?
People are acting precisely as they’re being told to act. I mean Kamala is officially Stalin. How do you expect people to act?
Their team acts precisely as they're being told to act because they're homogeneous, whereas your team is a diverse coalition of people and ideas.
Funny. The whole world has figured which party of the two is more homogeneous yet leftards still deny-it and self-project it while they carry on [WE] identify-as gangster building for their 'democracy'.
You both need to actually READ the US Constitution someday and decide if you even want a USA instead of endlessly trying to make-up [WE] gang RULERS and those 'icky' people.
Way to prove my point.
On the subject of reading, you should pick up a basic economics text. This one is good.
https://fee.org/ebooks/economics-in-one-lesson/
Haaaa ha ha ha! Just kidding. I know you won’t because if you become economically literate then you’ll realize how stupid the policies you defend are. And you'd rather be an ignorant defender than educate yourself.
You show no evidence of ever having read that book, except maybe the back cover description.
those ‘icky’ people
You mean the "vermin" that Trump described?
You mean the people who are "poisoning the blood of the nation"?
You mean the "enemy within" that Trump wants to use the military against?
Do you mean those 'icky' people?
I mean all the 'icky' people the left want to STEAL-FROM/ENSLAVE (tax/regulate to death) for their own selfish benefit while believing their [WE] identify-as gang RULES!
Not the 'icky' [WE] identify-as [Na]tional So[zi]alist RULERS and supporters who want to do the STEALING/ENSLAVING.
Fair question. Easy answer.
I mean Kamala is officially Stalin.
Have you not paid attention? It's trump who is officially hitler, mussolini, and stalin.
Why of course. You can practically see the swastikas and Nazi flags at every campaign event. Entire crowds of Trump worshippers marching goosestep in vast parades and massive torch lit night time ceremonies with Trump wildly gesticulating and screaming for the blood of jews./s
Both Harris and Walz are in fact communists. They were raised as such and Walz, especially wishes to become America's first Marxist dictator.
His actions as governor of Minnesota are just a small sample of how far he is willing to go.
Yet Hitler allowed the states to decide if lockdowns were necessary during the pandemic and the non-Hitler left called it mismanagement because he didn't use federal power to lock everyone down.
My mayor instituted a lock down without the approval of the elected body. That's the authoritarian way that excluded democracy, the left applauded.
Kamala ist Ilse Koch.
No one thinks Kamala is Stalin. Stalin was competent at politics, had a way with words, and did not cackle uncontrollably.
And the trains ran on time.
I am more fearful of what the Harris administration will do rather than a Trump administration.
After all, both Harris and Walz are confirmed communists.
Reason putting out an article like this is like asking "Other than that mild unpleasantness, how did you enjoy the Play Mrs. Lincoln?"
I remember when the internet was new, one of the features was curated offerings based on tastes. I don't recall a concern about the damage that would be created by the resulting echo chambers. As always, the law of unintended consequences is unavoidable.
It seems to me the issue devolves back to the participation-trophy culture of never experiencing anything unpleasant and the resulting inability to take personal responsibility for one's happiness, which makes a Marxist oppressor-oppressed paradigm sensible and appealing.
Life is not experienced inside a cocoon. I like the platitude that in life "pain is mandatory, suffering is optional". Libertarians get that concept and embrace it.
No. Americans don't need to succumb to the [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire.
They need to fight to uphold the USA (defined by the Supreme Law of the Land) with every ounce they have left because if they don't they won't have a USA. They'll have a Nazi-Empire JUST like Germany did.
Take your "Chill Out" and succumb to the Socialist Party and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
In the Cold War days, people on both sides were still able to go have drinks together at the end of the day because they were united against a common enemy. The USSR collapsed, and before long 9/11 happened and we were all united against terrorism. Now that's pretty much over, but the basic human desire to have an enemy still exists. So people look around for an enemy, see the other team, and say "I. Hate. You."
And here we are.
And you revel in it.
Do you think that would've been possible if over 1/2 of D.C. was praising the "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" and trying to legislate the US to be part of the socialist movement?
Learn what socialism actually means, dude. You're making yourself look really dumb.
Indeed. There are hundred million graves on this planet in tribute to the greatness of socialism.
Thanks to Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pott who merrily sent their opponents off to be either worked to death or outright exterminated.
The same will happen here in America, if they take power.
No. No, it won’t. Progressives are not socialists or Marxists. They don’t want to nationalize industry and put the means of production into the hands of government. That’s what socialism means. TJ would know this if he wasn’t willfully ignorant of economics.
Green Party on the other hand. They’re socialists. They want to do those things I mentioned above. But Democrats? No. Not so much. They’re still capitalists. Yes they want a robust social safety net, but that isn’t socialism.
And no I’m not defending Democrats here. I’m responding to the ignorant misuse of economic terms by someone who proudly refuses to learn better.
"They don’t want to nationalize industry and put the means of production into the hands of government."
If the government is promising 'products'.
The government is becoming the "means of production".
Calling it, "Making it ?Affordable?" is just a wolf in sheeps clothing.
If the government is promising ‘products’.
The government is becoming the “means of production.
No. There's a difference between government paying for products made by capitalists, and government stealing the factories from the capitalists.
How do you figure government is “paying” for anything?
‘Guns’ don’t make sh*t.
They are literally *STEALING* from the capitalists.
As-if you’ve never heard the left tout “The rich will pay for it.” line.
This week's chocolate ration has just been increased from 35 grams to 25 grams.
Enjoy it with your Victory Gin.
""They don’t want to nationalize industry and put the means of production into the hands of government.""
Makes me wonder who you are talking about. A lot of liberals I know want government in every decision a business makes. They do want to federalize it. At what point does not being able to manage your own business because the state decides all the rules make it the state's store?
Makes me wonder if you know the difference between telling companies what to do and nationalizing them.
There is no substantive difference between those two things.
You have just (probably accidentally) given a brief summary of fascism (telling companies what to do) and socialism (taking over the companies). There is only a superficial difference between the two. But you have loudly stated elsewhere that fascism is right-wing. Both fascism and socialism are left-wing.
If government makes all the decision for your store, is it really yours?
At some point is becomes a game of semantics.
No, it's not a game of semantics. Socialism means the people at the DMV work in the factories. Words have actual meanings.
^This is sarcasmic's level of understanding of socialism and fascism.
Really not much difference.
There's a big difference between the experts who know what to do being hampered by government idiots telling them how to do their job, and government idiots doing the actual work.
Be nice if they knew what their 'work' was.
Not as-if they didn't take an oath of office to their 'work'. /s
Not really.
A good example of the state's failure to run not only businesses but the means of production can be clearly seen as the communists took over every aspect of food production.
Failures at every point. Food production was a disaster as the Soviets spent themselves into oblivion while most of the Russian population went hungry.
The long bread lines and the calamity that took place in Ukraine thanks to Uncle Joe, was horrific.
No shit. And as regulated as our food production is, everyone involved are still capitalists. That's why we have food to eat.
Socialism would be the government sending out DMV flunkies to manage and work the farms. We'd all starve.
What’s with the fixation on the DMV?
ROADZZZZZZZZZZZZ ... Is why the [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] has to exist!!! /s
Or for sarcasm ROADZZZZZZZZZ is why Social-ist programs aren't socialism.
"Socialism would be the government sent" ... "to manage" and "regulate".
So what part of that is "capitalist"?
Here's another Social-ist program but this one is "capitalist"!!! I swear! /s
TBF, that's fascism.
But it's not like we don't have examples of the Democrats trying to nationalize industries in the past 16 years or anything. Oh wait...
Don't you believe a self-identified socialist is a socialist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_members_of_the_United_States_Congress
Nope. I think that most of the people in Congress who call themselves socialists really want capitalism with social programs. They're as ignorant as you.
Why would I believe you over their own words?
Because you have no critical thinking skills and no basic knowledge of economics, and make judgements based upon the source not what was said. If you did then you’d know that when idiots like Bernie say Sweden is socialist and we need to be more like Sweden, that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about since Sweden is a capitalist economy with social programs. So fuck you for making this about me. Use your fucking brain you worthless cunt.
If you can’t win an argument, go to name calling.
Critical thinking has a lot of issues with that post.
Btw, in all fairness, when you start with "Nope. I think ", then it is automatically about you, your opinion specifically. You made it about it about you. Don't blame me for that.
LMAO... "capitalism with social-ist programs"
Neat trick.
Something, something about believing you can eat your cake and have it too.
Words mean things.
Take Venezuela for example. They nationalized industries. As in the government just walked in and stole the oil wells and refineries. Government owns the means of production.
That is socialism, and it’s not the goal of most of those in Congress who call themselves socialist.
Sweden has a capitalist economy that is far freer than ours, and it taxes that economy to pay for stuff.
That is not socialism. Yet that’s what most our politicians associate with socialism.
Why do you insist on being as ignorant of economics as “socialist” politicians?
"Words mean things."
They sure do....
If the government is promising ‘products’.
The government is becoming the “means of production”.
When the government STEALS those *MEANS* from capitalism it is claiming to 'own' those 'means of production'. Do you think just because an Armed-Robber robs a bank to 'own' all the money from the bank but doesn't identify-as a Bank-Robber that that must mean he isn't a Bank-Robber???
I REFUSE to be identified as a Bank-Robber just because I Rob Banks! /s
If the government is promising ‘products’.
The government is becoming the “means of production”.
No, it is not. Government doesn’t pave roads. It takes money from taxpayers and then pays capitalists to do the work.
Socialism is when the road crew itself are government employees.
I’m trying to be patient here and teach you something, but I think you’re willfully ignorant and refusing to learn anything as a matter of principle because you think I’m a leftist or some nonsense. That makes this complete waste of my time and energy. If that’s the case, please let me know. I’ll put you on mute and never spend any energy on you again.
"It (Government) takes money from taxpayers"
Then the "taxpayer" is working for the (Government).
I’ll put you on mute and never spend any energy on you again.
Don't get your hopes up, TJJ... he won't do either of those things.
Whoosh.
I'm sorry but you're being either obtuse or you're really fucking dumb. Either way it makes my head hurt. So I'm done with you.
Roads are paved at the state level. Some states use contractors, some still use the Highway department employees which are government employees.
But which party would be more likely to federalize it?
This is how you can identify what sarc is. When left wingers say something stupid he assumes against evidence they mean something more palatable. When right-wingers say something stupid he asserts against evidence they mean something worse. This is the only way he can maintain his belief both sides are equally bad, and also why he literally never applies the same standards to left and right.
If he were a libertarian he wouldn't have a problem asserting consistent standards, but he has literally never done so in what, 200,000 comments?
The divisiveness is worrisome to me because it really keeps our country from address real issues. It seems we would rather fight than address issues like national debt, infrastructure, immigration, and other big problems. Solving problems requires compromise and not "my way or the highway".
It is by design. There are those who continue to inflict divisiveness in order to distract the people from the real threats.
NWO, Great Reset along with what they have planned for the lot of us.
When “my way or the highway” is Constitutional versus UN-Constitutional the 'addressing' part is the difference between a USA and a [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire.
Sugar-coating and Compromising to Socialism doesn't "address" any issue as-if the last century hasn't PROVEN that beyond a doubt.
Your championing the very CURSE that got this nation to where it is today - the very root of *all* the issues.
none of the politicians want to actually solve anything. turning us against each other gets them votes and fundraising. fixing things would get them a pat on the back and nothing left to make us vote against the other guy.
It's just bizarre people who stoke the divisiveness turn around and pretend to oppose it like everyone will forget everything else they've ever written.
The ZERO self-responsibility and projecting goes a lot deeper than just stroking divisiveness. Why. It’s almost as if the entire lefts politics follow that same ZERO self-responsibility in everything it does. Otherwise they might have to focus on Individualism instead of which [WE] mob RULES!
The problem is the left wants more government and more government control over all our lives, while the right along with libertarians want to keep the government out of our lives and remain there.
The left's answer to everything is more government and that means more intrusive government.
The answer of course is less government. The reality is that as government is enlarged, it become less and less efficient, more corrupt and dangerous to everyone.
Yet, here we are with the largest government ever in history, one that is nearly out of control, corrupted to the core and so inefficient, they can't even screw in a light bulb but they can screw up in times of disaster. Trillions wasted and stolen through foreign aid, appropriations throughout the country and useless needless wars that benefit only the MIC.
Americans though will vote for more of the same and they deserve to get it good and hard.
I disagree that the left wants big government. I think we live in an age when both extremes, left and right, want big government. I think the middle wants a government that works in the background and is effective but less noticeable. I like the Libertarian ideas of less government but also think they are a bit naive on how small you can make government. I advocate for smart government. Government should be the last resort to address problems. People should accept that some problems can only be addressed by government but ask also that government address a problem in the simplest way.
Name some people in government that are smart.
How about the pilots of the F35 fighters, do you think they are dumb? What about the people who maintain and support those jets. What about the people in the library of Congress who catalog all the information generated in our country. Government is filled with smart people. It is the people we elect to run the government that often fail us, because they are more interested in keeping their jobs than they are in doing their job of running the country's government.
Fail.
The F35 has turned out to be one of the biggest frauds and taxpayer funded boondoggles since the XB70.
That plane is rife with one failure after another. Hundreds of billions spent on what amounts to be a pig on a poke.
The only people who benefited from this massive theft is the MIC and the politicians who receive kickbacks from them.
This is no different than Washington's massive giveaway to Ukraine, the worst, most corrupt country in Europe.
""I disagree that the left wants big government.""
I'm pretty sure wanting more executive federal agencies for unelected bureaucrats to write the rules describes the left pretty well.
Like Hillary said regarding free speech, government will lose control.
And nowhere have we witnessed the act of government intrusion than in the past four years of the covid debacle. Only in democrat run states where the governors acted more like dictators and little tyrants than say in Florida where Gov. Ron Desantis allowed the people to decide how they wished to conduct themselves.
The Branch Covidians remain in existence yet, today.
The "middle" wants censorship, surveillance, a carceral state and endless total war.
Not as-if there's been any lobbying differences between...
Harris - Price controls, Student Subsidies, Universal Healthcare, Universal Retirement, Universal Wages, MORE Public Institutions
... and ...
Trump - De-Regulation and Tax-Cuts.
Not as-if the DNC s very platform didn't complain about the Trump Administrations (and I quote), "Hollowed out our public institutions".
Oh no. Both want BIG government! /s
BOAF SIDEZ!!!! /s
That said - I'd take the left-denialism and correction over the self-projection and ignorant consistency. You want Democrats to stop supporting BIG government then push your Democrat politicians to stop supporting BIG government plans.
There is no such thing as tax cuts it is merely tax deferments because the cut is simply transferred to the national debt. Trump plans will likely regulate as much if not more than they deregulate.
"No such thing as Tax-Cuts."
"Trump will regulate more than deregulate."
Which one of those isn't a complete BS statement?
Sorry, you totally lost me here = I disagree that the left wants big government.
Sorry if I was unclear, perhaps it would be better said that "the left alone does not want big government" .
I disagree that the left wants big government.
I wonder how people conclude left wingers will say anything t support the team no matter how detached from reality.
taint
Listen, I like taint as much as the next guy but c'mon, used three times? This is why human editors are necessary.
In regards to a Harris administration:
"on some great and glorious day, the plain peoples of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
"Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."
- H.L. Mencken
"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule — and both commonly succeed, and are right..."
-Mencken
But only one side is using fear.
Trump talks about how bad Harris is. A lot of name calling about how much she sucks.
Harris is using fear. Trump is bad. He will take away your rights. Trump is the end of democracy.
We should be more concerned about those who try to manipulate us with fear.
You think Trump isn’t stoking fear? He's stoking fear of Democrats, fear of China, fear of immigrants, fear of free trade, fear of losing jobs, fear of communists, fear of fascists... the list goes on and on.
No, the fear part is in your mind.
Wanting more fair trade with China is not fear. Wanting to enforce immigration law is not fear. He does not fear free trade nor does he expect us to. He is talking about more jobs.
Shouldn't we have some fear of communists or fascists? Many of our own people, regardless of politics, have sacrificed their lives to defend our country and the interests of our country from such people.
Losing jobs to China is fear. Saying illegals are all rapists and murderers is fear. He does not want free trade, he wants “fair trade” whatever that means. Yes he’s talking about more jobs, but doesn’t understand that manufacturing jobs are being lost to automation not foreigners. As far as communists and fascists go, fuck them. They’ve got no real chance of gaining power. At least not right now.
As far as saying it’s all in my mind goes, fuck you. I’m not making this about you. You’re trying to make it about me. That makes you a worthless cunt like Jesse and the rest. Quit pretending to be reasonable and just go full retard like Chumby. It would be more honest.
I don't see Trump fans crying when they see a Harris sign.
""As far as communists and fascists go, fuck them. They’ve got no real chance of gaining power. At least not right now.""
They will have more flexibility after the election. Assuming the candidate that promotes their beliefs wins. If the other one wins, the establishment will start to regurgitate it, again.
Losing jobs to China is fear.
what if it's true? is it still fear? Just wondering how you formulate these things.
Is it fear of Russia to support drawing aline at Ukraine? is it fear of WWW3 to support non-intervention into the conflict? Is literally everything fear ?
"But only one side is using fear."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
The deliberate denial of reality is strong with this one.
"Under democracy" ... "unfit to rule"
Maybe the USA isn't just-a 'democracy'.
Maybe it's a *Constitutional* Union of Republican States.
its kind of hard when one side says if you vote for GOP with some politicians and MSM haveing called for anyone who votes for them to be arrested and re educated since they are clearly Hitlers spawn and a threat to democracy even though they are the ones who are shutting down alternate views.
People are letting politics poison relationships, workplaces, and our whole society.
He said, waking up from his 8 year long nap.
Tuccille is a TDS-addled pile of shit.
8?
For years the GOP has been trying to shake the reputation of impeaching a President for getting a blowjob rather than what he actually was guilty of: perjuring himself in Congressional testimony in front of the public… and this was several years after “Who put a pubic hair on my Coke can?” *allegations*.
>> ... on my Coke can?
whoever thought it up and then used as some kind of "that guy did this" is a disgusting perv who clearly never met a woman.
It's not an 8 year nap, this has been going on for decades. It began with the left introducing politics as a lifestyle which overrode the traditional American ethos of not discussing politics and offering respect for all. Instead the left championed "the personal is political" and their lecturing everyone about politics at every opportunity. Since they were the only group doing so they re-set the norms to favor themselves.
What we're witnessing now, but again longer than 8 years, is the right trying to replicate that success as they realized 1/7 of the electorate can dominate the path of government using this method.
Ultimately no appeal to reason will work because this sort of blending politics into life successful creates committed voters.
""The duo said the woman was hysterically crying in the street and that she did call the police. A lone officer removed the woman from the store’s entrance and Johnson said she was taken to a local restaurant to "calm her down".""
Because of Trump signs. This is what the dems are doing. Indoctrinating people to react with much fear to anything Trump.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/maga-dress-designer-forced-to-remove-trump-signs-from-business-residence-when-karen-called-the-police/ar-AA1t1gP0?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=20c0cfd89beb4725a2ff0437b54b9b4a&ei=47
It's democrats. Democrats are the ones who cut off their friends and family over political opinions.
I mean democrats specifically and not liberals in general.
Not apparently mentioned in this article is that one of the causes of the spreading of politics into other aspects of life is that the politics itself has intruded into vast regions of life and society previously unaffected by politics. While I might not object to paying taxes for national defense, for example, I might seriously object to paying for someone's abortion in another state whom I've never gotten within a thousand miles of. While I would have no problem volunteering to help defend America against a military attack by another nation, I might seriously object to being drafted to fight in a war against terrorist in Afghanistan, for another example. And so it goes.
“one of the causes of the spreading of politics into other aspects of life is that the politics itself has intruded into vast regions of life and society previously unaffected by politics”
Well Said +1000000000000000.
Something about a *Constitutionally* LIMITED 'government'.
People have untreated mental illnesses.
Hint: They're the ones who need coloring books and safe spaces when a conservative shows up on campus.
This is the most important election in decades.
It's hard not to be unemotional when your future can be determined by fascists who want more government, more taxes, more laws and most of all...more control over us.
I'll let you decide which candidate wants that.
Articles in Reason would suggest to readers that your description covers both the candidates for the two major parties. Part of the problems that no candidate ever wins by saying "you know things are going well right now and I plan to watch over them and don't plan any major changes". People seem to want promises.
One candidate has explicitly stated that your public speech and social media posts need to be monitored and controlled by the government. And another candidate has explicitly affirmed the opposite.
I'll leave it to the reader to do their own research on which one is which, while they still can.
the hate seems to drive on a one-way avenue. anecdata.
testing
How'd you do?
Sure, we should ALL chill out. Cuz on the right are mostly people who want to be left the fuck alone, from social justice issues to taxes. And on the left are mostly people dedicated to changing the world to fit their progressive vision.
Just like the rapist and rapee can just chill out and get along.
Skeptic - I disagree with your assessment of people on the right just wanting to be left alone, because it's clear that most of them don't want to leave ME alone. They want to ban things that I want to be allowed to do, and they want to use government authority to impose their religious beliefs on ME. If you just want to be left alone then it would be wise to agree to leave other people alone at the same time, don't you think? Having said that, the people on the left probably want to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us, too and have been even more successful so far at using government for that purpose recently - as much as I hate whataboutism in general, I'm not going to let you get away with alleging that the right mostly just want to be left alone.
They want to ban things that I want to be allowed to do, and they want to use government authority to impose their religious beliefs on ME.
Which ones? specifically. Is it all abortion and porn with you guys or do you have anything else? I’m not even religious but this “the reglious right wants to run my life! Blaahahahah” is nonsense.
You’ve won the culture war, just enjoy. The Republican presidential ticket is explicitly against a national abortion ban and is for gay marriage. You have a scorched earth victory stop playing the victim.
The mainstream left and right have established and promise to continue establish full control over almost every decision you can possibly make in life. This is just a fact.
"Bodily autonomy" is not a thing. The FDA and DEA have seen to that thoroughly. Some states dont even allow you to homeschool. You cannot escape the clutches of the gov-run indoctrination of your children against your will in those states.
Every part of every single car you buy is reviwed and approved by the DOT.
It is impossible for you to insure someone for a single catastrophic health event. You cant buy heart attack insurance.
This is not a free country, not even close, and whining about porn availability in louisiana just shows how myopic people are.
The right wrote RvW.
The Pro-Life movement was born in Catholic Democrats.
Dobbs (current right) ruled State 'democracy'.
I'd say the "mostly" fits pretty well.
Not "perfectly" but "mostly".
The success the religious right has had with setting the national social agenda has faded significantly since the 1980s. Sure, if you go to some small town in Iowa you might feel stifled when you propose pride parades and drag queen story hours. But the left now owns most of the media, all of academia and entertainment, and many of the corporate board rooms. And IMO they are much more aggressive in trying to set our national agenda.
The religious right put Judas Priest on trial over a suicide claiming backwards masking lyrics cause the kid to do it.
I couldn't stand the religious right in the 80s. They wanted to push their morality on to me. Today, it's the left doing it.
""Having said that, the people on the left probably want to impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us, too and have been even more successful so far at using government for that purpose recently ""
Yeah, I've had to take Anti-racist, DEI, anti-sexual harassment, and gender trainings at my job. I have never been required to take a lesson about Jesus or Moses.
".....Cuz on the right are mostly people who want to be left the fuck alone......"
except... a woman's control over her own body, gay people having a cake at their wedding, where transgenders are "allowed" to pee, the free movement of people across borders, the convenience of mail in ballots, etc., etc..
if either side tries telling you they just want to be left alone.... they are lying.
Personally, I'm expecting a low-grade civil war to break out, so I see no point in trying to kumbaya people to sleep. When an infection is growing, it's best to lance the boil and get it over with.
The irony is that if Trump wins, I think states will self-select and become more extremely differentiated from each other. Texas and Florida will become far more low-tax, small-gov, anti-porn etc and blue states will become totally commie. This is because I do get the sense that Trump and his potential cabinet are genuine in their federalist leanings.
If Kamala wins, the opposite occur. Federalism will be crushed and every state will look more like California.
Living in Michigan is a good example as to just how far the liberals will go to gain control.
The three witches of Lansing act more like the Supreme Soviet than elected administrators for the people.
California will become Detroit but get 'Federal' subsidies.
Communism can't survive without conquering and consuming other States.
It is the foundational "conquer and consume" mentality of communists and socialists.
Exactly right. If states are allowed to take different paths the results will show the left's economic program is a disaster. The whole point of federal control is to prevent states from differentiating. If blue states want to fund a Department of Education so they can have 5,000 employees who sit around and discuss how important it is for third graders to consider whether they are trans or not they can do so, and they can bear the full burden of funding it.
Useless government employees are the new aristocracy: a group using political control to exploit the labor of others.
"Is that woman on the dating app an actual communist? Yeah, I'd take a pass on that. Is that guy at your workplace really a Nazi? I'd avoid him, too. Better yet, introduce those two—just for shits and giggles."
Their relationship wouldn't last two years before breaking out into fighting.
A vote for Harris is a vote for war. I'm sorry but that's a line no rational person should cross.
you might want to talk to the guy trying to claim your side isn't using fear.
I came here when Reason editors were endorsing Biden in 2020 and said a vote for Biden is a vote for war. I was correct then and I am correct now.
Yeah I'm not chilling the fuck out when one side - the left - explicitly says natural rights are the "problem" and an "obstacle."
Both sides are a cudgel, but only one of the cudgels is hitting me. Normally, I preferred nobody getting hit, but on the other hand, the way the left treats anyone who isn't a totally indoctrinated communist globalist system worshiping moron, they kind of deserve to be beaten into submission. Y'know, like they keep trying to do to the rest of us.
And register-them-on-the-internet-tyrant Nikki Haley isn't "the right." She's just another globalist trash hag. Neither are the Cheneys or Vindman or anyone else in or affiliated with the administrative state. It's We The People vs. Them the Tyrants ... and their brainwashed and evil fan club.
Left hand, meet the right hand of recent 'reason' headlines:
Heated Political Rhetoric Is Usually Not Fatal
Stop Blaming the Attempted Assassination on Heated Anti-Trump Rhetoric
Other than that, something something first cast out the beam out of thine own eye something something.
Fiona and Reason told me this can't be!
Breaking: The gunman in the shooting of the Orthodox Jewish man in Chicago is an illegal immigrant from northwest Africa. He crossed our southern border a year and a half ago.
My cousins who live out of state mostly voted for Obama during the 2010s. It had zero effect on our family relationship.
When Korean president Park Geun Hae was impeached, my mom supported her and her best friend took the side of the left. Again, it did not strain their friendship. Not one bit. And my parents are old school conservatives who detest communism.
For the most part, the problem isn't us. It's THEM. These people who insist on bringing up politics during Thanksgiving or unfriending people on facebook over voting preferences or yelling at a baby in a stroller because the dad wears a MAGA hat. I saw these people in action in college all the time, where they'll just start political rants based on random tangent in class, trashing capitalism, Bush, republicans, christians, etc while the left wing professors just happily nodded along.
Who in fuck cares if someone puts mayo in a Bhan mi sandwich or if a white guy wears a sombrero to a Halloween party? These guys. I always find it SO amusing when these people accuse us of "dividing people". No one denigrates and reduces a human being to cartoonish caricature more than these people.
Another 1000 words on the subject, another complete failure to mention the guy who stoked these ultra-partisan “us vs them” Marxist critical theory flames.
Barack Obama.
This stuff didn't exist prior to him. Reagan, Bush, even Clinton and Dubya - yea, we'd bicker on issues, but it wasn't the outright hatred that it is after eight years of Barack exploiting every possible basis and ramping up reasons for us to all hate each other.
Then Donald punched him back.
Then "unity ticket" Biden/Kamala couldn't go ONE SINGLE DAY without driving that wedge.
Now Donald's going to punch them back again.
And all the while we keep entertaining "national divorce" mentalities - as if that were even possible - or worse "civil war" which is laughable at best.
The American people have forgotten that the best thing to unite us is a common enemy. And we have a very clear and very present one: the State and its media.
You do not hate them enough. You think you do, but you don't.
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