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Politics

Foxy Kamala

Plus: Darien Gap crossings, CNN panel on crime, Michigan DEI experiment, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.17.2024 9:30 AM

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Special report: Last night, Kamala Harris sat for an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier. The roughly 25-minute segment was frequently contentious and revealing, mostly in that it reminded viewers how unique it is to see legitimately tough questions volleyed at Harris by a member of the media class.

"How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has released into the country over the last three and a half years?" Baier asked from the jump.

"I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because I agree with you. It is a, it is a topic of discussion that people want to rightly have," responded Harris. "And you know what I'm going to talk about."

Baier pushed: "Just a number, do you think it's 1 million, 3 million?"

"Brett, let's just get to the point. Okay. The point is that we have a broken immigration system that needs to be repaired," responded Harris.

"So your Homeland Security Secretary said that 85 percent of apprehensions—" continued Baier, before being cut off by Harris: "I'm not finished. I'm not finished."

Watch the full exchange here.

"When you came into office, your administration immediately reversed a number of Trump border policies," continued Baier. "Most significantly, the policy that required illegal immigrants to be detained through deportation either in the U S. or in Mexico, and you switched that policy. They were released from custody awaiting trial.…Included in those were a large number of single men, adult men, who went on to commit heinous crimes. So looking back, do you regret the decision to terminate Remain in Mexico at the beginning of your administration?"

Harris responded: "At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress—before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation Reduction Act, before the CHIPS and Science Act, before any, before the bipartisan Safer Communities Act—the first bill, practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration system."

"We recognized from Day One, that to the point of this being your first question, it is a priority for us as a nation and for the American people," she added. "And our focus has been on fixing a problem.…we have done a number of things, including to address our asylum system and put more resources, getting more judges, what we needed to do to tighten up penalties and increase penalties for illegal crossings, what we needed to do to deal with ports, points of entry between border entry points. That's the work we did and we worked on supporting what was a bipartisan effort, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Congress.…Donald Trump learned about that bill and told them to kill it, because he preferred to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem," continued Harris.

A nonanswer answer: On a fundamental level, Harris didn't really grapple with the question, which was about the Biden administration's reversal of the Remain in Mexico policy, which required migrants seeking asylum in the United States to remain outside the country prior to their court date versus being let in while awaiting their court date. And Harris is partially correct that the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021—the bill she was ostensibly referencing—would have simplified the asylum-seeking process, reduced administrative burdens on people seeking employment-related visas, and provided a pathway to citizenship for people who entered the country as kids through the DACA program. But making laws is about building consensus, and it requires contending with political realities, and Biden didn't have a solid enough majority in Congress to be able to get this legislation through the finish line. Harris is also correct that Trump has repeatedly alluded to sinking immigration legislation due to not wanting to give Democrats the W.

But still, all of this is a little beside the point, which is that the vast number of border crossings have happened since that legislation died more than two years ago—which was what Baier asked Harris about. She could have offered an answer—which might have played well with Fox viewers—about the administration's June crackdown on asylum seekers. She could have legitimately offered estimates of the number of entries or the number of border apprehensions. She could have conceded that it's a problem, or she could've mounted an offensive bid for the idea that this number of asylum seekers awaiting court dates inside our borders is no big deal at all, and that the dogs and cats aren't in fact being eaten.

The New York Times comically portrayed this not as Harris declining to answer the initial question, or Harris questionably blaming record-high numbers of border apprehensions on her opponent, but as malfeasance on Baier's part. "It took him less than 20 seconds to interrupt her for the first time. Ms. Harris, who is known as an effective practitioner of the filibuster, had hardly even begun to answer his opening question. That pattern continued for much of the interview." How is that the takeaway?

A pattern did continue for much of the interview, but I wouldn't characterize it as Baier being rude or failing to give Harris time to talk; mostly, he repeatedly pressed her when she retreated to boilerplate talking points, which seems like…exactly what an interviewer ought to do.

Around minute mark 24, Baier asks about Iran sanctions and Harris spends 38 seconds (I counted!) talking about Trump's rhetoric toward service members, ultimately failing to answer the actual question. She speaks, at one point during that answer, about how such discussions need to be grounded in facts, then declines the opportunity to actually do so. At times, Harris gave legitimately strong answers that will probably play well with her fans, but those were few and far between.

Fox has its flaws—namely, its role in spreading stolen-election myths, which has resulted in a huge loss of credibility (as well as $787 million dollars). But Baier pressing Harris was legitimately useful to watch, in part because it reveals how much of an empty suit she is.

An adversarial media gives us that information; a sycophantic media does not. Both sides should aim to perform that service for viewers and voters to the greatest degree possible.


Scenes from New York: Ha.

Dimwitted TikTokker tore down Greek flags at NJ restaurant thinking they were Israeli: 'My bad' https://t.co/zm153NzO1o pic.twitter.com/Yfm4vj91p0

— New York Post (@nypost) October 16, 2024


QUICK HITS

  • "The number of migrants coming through the Darien Gap increased by 51% in September as more Venezuelans crossed the treacherous jungle following Nicolas Maduro's disputed reelection," reports Bloomberg. "Repression in the wake of Venezuela's July election has led to an increase in out-migration, according to a report by Refugees International published on Friday. Data show that 25,111 migrants crossed last month, with more than 80% of them from Venezuela, followed by Colombia, Ecuador and China."
  • Yesterday, officials in Italy cracked down on seeking surrogacy abroad. It is already banned domestically.
  • "The world's central banks aren't following the Fed's lead anymore," writes Tom Orlik at Bloomberg.
  • Michigan's failed DEI experiment:

Manufactured diversity doesn't work. The University of Michigan spent $250M on DEI programs only to have a more hostile campus:

"Students were less likely to interact with people of a different race or religion or with different politics" pic.twitter.com/niz75wDvrZ

— Neetu Arnold (@neetu_arnold) October 16, 2024

  • True:

To focus on Elon Musk's politics is to exhibit a ridiculous monomania that, among other things, badly misunderstands the wages of genius. Musk is a weirdo, yes. Most visionaries are. It's the least important thing about them. https://t.co/iQVGqkmmnn

— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) October 16, 2024

  • Where do Lebanon's displaced people go to shelter?
  • Absolutely wild panel on CNN, worth a watch:

This is weird. Violence doubled in many cities the day after civil unrest and the 3rd precinct was burnt by a mob in Minneapolis on May 28, 2020. I suppose we can debate causality, but to deny or be unaware of the reality? https://t.co/fk72RCwaQe https://t.co/mfYxZAUVl1 https://t.co/xr6ReAbzoG

— Peter Moskos (@PeterMoskos) October 16, 2024

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  1. Chumby   9 months ago

    Biden announces new $425 million arms package for Ukraine

    The package includes additional air defense capabilities, air-to-ground munitions, armored vehicles and critical munitions to meet Ukraine's immediate needs.

    - Two Majors

    I’m worried that this might cut into the funds available for the migrant immigration of rapists, murderers, human traffickers, and mostly peaceful gang members that Border Czar Kamala is welcoming into the country. This is even more important now that some of them in Colorado have lost their housing.

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      Huh? We have lots of money. Best economy evah!

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

      You ought to be far more concerned about what will happen when Trump wins and he declares an 'invasion' at the southern border. Because the only legitimate response to a bona-fide invasion is to send the military, and considering how many migrants are coming across the border, the spending on bullets and grenades will be outrageous. Not to mention body bags. As libertarians, can we really sit by and stomach all of that additional government spending confiscated through taxes?

      1. Social Justice is neither   9 months ago

        This is your defense of sending taxpayer money abroad to murder people there? We get it, you're a Leftist and hate America and want it destroyed, thus your open border+max welfare stances.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

          I love how the only two solutions to illegal immigration is to let them all in or shoot them. Jeffy isn't known for his intelligence.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

            He is known for his dishonesty. And he has sarc eating out of his paws.

            1. R Mac   9 months ago

              I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                And I don’t call him Pedo Jeffy for nothing.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

          I mean, it's you and your team that wants to confiscate taxpayer money and spend it on bullets for illegals.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            chemtard radical deathfat: "Not letting child molesters claim asylum is decreasing their liberty! If they're being oppressed, they should be let in!"

            Natural endpoint of this stupidity, from the New York Post two days ago:

            Three illegal migrants nabbed in Florida for allegedly sexually assaulting child
            Three illegal migrants from Honduras have been nabbed in Florida after they allegedly sexually assaulted a child.
            Elvin and Erick both crossed the southern border illegally in 2021 and were quickly released by border agents, while Jesersson crossed the border last year and was given a court date in 2028.
            The illegal migrant monsters are currently in the county jail and are being held with no bond, according to the sheriff’s office.
            The horrific attack follows a slew of high-profile arrests of migrant predators in recent months.
            The Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office arrested Elvin Lopez Lopez, Erick Lopez Lopez and Jesersson Lopez Lopez on Friday and said they believe the group engaged in the “despicable behavior” since August this year.
            The migrants were charged with numerous counts of Lewd Lascivious Behavior (Capital Sexual Battery) on a minor under the age of 12.
            One of those attacks was the rape of a 13-year-old girl in a Queens park.
            Ecuadorian migrant Christian Geovanny Inga-Landi, 25, who had previously been ordered deported, held the teen girl at knifepoint with a “machete-style” blade in the terrifying broad-daylight attack.
            Inga-Landi was eventually caught by a group of heroic New Yorkers, who tied him up with a belt after recognizing him from police wanted posters.
            There has also been a slew of recent ICE arrests of illegal migrants accused of raping children in the wealthy Massachusetts towns of Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket, who had also been previously let go by local authorities.
            Border agents have arrested 202 illegal migrants who had previously been convicted of sexual crimes since October 2023, according to federal data.

            "That's only 200, they should still be let into the country!"

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Jeff is also against reporting them even post conviction. Yet sarc allies with him even with these stances.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

                They went to Martha's Vineyard and decided they wanted a different kind of cheese pizza than what the dizzy shitlib residents gave them for a couple of days.

            2. R Mac   9 months ago

              Lying Jeffy is pro-kid fucking.

              1. Dillinger   9 months ago

                shuns the amateur kids?

                1. R Mac   9 months ago

                  He wants them too.

                  1. Mother's Lament   9 months ago

                    Jeff's big tent.

                    1. Chumby   9 months ago

                      His big tent is actually his muumuu.

            3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Pedo Jeffy approves! Enthusiastically.

          2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

            The military is already available and the bullets are bought. Also the bullets are cheap. Also, barely any would need to be fired.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

              And none will be. Jeff is an idiot.

              Now those grenades on the other hand do sound like fun…..

          3. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

            I'm pretty sure--I'm certain about myself, but pretty sure otherwise--most others here have put forth the notion that if the government would stop handing out free shit, we wouldn't really care too much about the illegal aliens. Sure, we'd *prefer* that they come through a legal port of entry with some minimal background checks to weed out the convicted child molesters, murderers, rapists and suspected terrorists. I don't recall anyone seriously saying start shooting them all (even if the cost of bullets would be a lot cheaper than the other free shit we're handing out; also, as you're fond of pointing out, the cost of welfare to illegals is such a small pittance in the scheme of things [you seem to think], surely bullets would be far far cheaper and more of a pittance).

      2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

        Sending the military seems appropriate. You dont have to gun people down by the millions. Just put the military there, they wont need to. Would be money well spent

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

          You dont have to gun people down by the millions.

          Merely by the thousands, then?

          1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

            Few hundred should get the message across.

            1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

              Probably not even that many. Word spreads quick. If they hear the American military is at the border and a few people that were forcing their way in got shot, it would stop pretty fast.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                Look at how it spiked after Joe promised to make asylum claims easier and would catch and release.

                1. Outlaw Josey Wales   9 months ago

                  And the opposite when Trump implemented the Stay in Mexico policy. The buses stopped en route and many turned back.

              2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                Just being Jeffy, Sarc, Mod, Shriek and the rest of their fellow travelers there and shoot them in front of the border jumpers. As an example of what can happen to them. This way no illegals get hurt, and we remove some Marxist subversives, while scaring the would be illegals straight.

                Thanks Jeffy, I like your plan. Let’s do it! I look forward to you leftists here all making the ultimate sacrifice to protect the lives of the illegals that you so cherish.

            2. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

              Stack the bodies up at the border as a warning and save the body-bag money Jeff is suddenly so worried about.

          2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

            Likely just a couple. Shit, you folks were all but giddy when a Trump supporter caught one for protesting in the capitol. Apparently trespassing in the capitol as a US citizen is a more grievous offense than literally illegally crossing into a country you arent allowed in by law.

            Why do you think that US citizens that disagree with you should be given more harsh treatment than someone that isnt allowed here legally?

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Babbits family had to raise funds for legal representation. Democrats have passed bills to fund free legal representation for illegals.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

              Likely just a couple.

              How about none? Can we go with none?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

                How about we execute the traffickers themselves and merely return the “migrants” home?

              2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

                You brought it up, dickhead, knowing damn well that exactly none will be shot.

                Unless they’re cartel bad hombres who shoot first. Might have to ventilate a couple of them if they’re stupid enough to fuck around like that.

                Which, of course you’ll cry about, but who cares?

          3. THX1138   9 months ago

            "Pour encourager les autres."

      3. Chumby   9 months ago

        Greentip 5.56x45 mm cartridge: $0.30

        Hollowpoint handgun cartridge: $1

        Grenade: $50

        Sig Sauer P320: $450

        Milspec carbine with optic: $3000

        Punching holes in then blowing up some woke strawman: priceless

        There are some things money can’t buy. For everything else, there’s you don’t have a visa.

      4. Incunabulum   9 months ago

        But you're ok with sending billions to defend Ukraine's border?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Didn't that new Ukraine military aid package also include a training program on the F-16? I hope Ukrainian pilots are ready to start with a month of DEI instruction.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

      Z brought his comedy tour to the states a few weeks back. It was pretty hilarious but Trump wasn't laughing. The days of the Ukrainian graft machine are numbered so Biden has to dump as much cash in as possible before January. After that he can kick back and enjoy his ten percent.

      1. Chumby   9 months ago

        Reported donations by Ukraine to hurricane impacted Americans:

        Still $0

    5. Bubba Jones   9 months ago

      That is literally 1/1,000 as much as Biden wants to forgive student debt.

      And it's in America's interests.

      1. Chumby   9 months ago

        Neither is in America’s interests.

        Current US debt is $35.7T, ignoring unfunded liabilities. That didn’t happen by accident.

      2. R Mac   9 months ago

        Why is it in our interests to keep sending Ukrainians to their deaths?

    6. damikesc   9 months ago

      Amazing that money for Ukraine can ALWAYS be found...but NOT for NC.

      Weird.

      1. R Mac   9 months ago

        tHosE ArE seParATe FUndS!

  2. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    ...it reminded viewers how unique it is to see legitimately tough questions volleyed at Harris by a member of the media class.

    Presidential primaries I guess are designed to weed out the lightweights.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Unique or far-right MAGA-Nazi attacks on democracy?

    2. Randy Sax   9 months ago

      The only election she has ever won is district attorney. Every other position she has every had was given to her through DEI hiring or BJs.

    3. Bubba Jones   9 months ago

      I love that NYT accused Fox of not letting her filibuster.

  3. Chumby   9 months ago

    Hours ago, observers reported that, once again, United States Air Force continued its delivery of equipment and US Army servicemen to Israel as another United States Air Force C-17 military cargo plane from the 69th Air Defense Artillery Brigade, which is deployed at Fort Cavazos in Texas, was spotted preparing to land in Southern Israel.

    – Bellum Acta

    Apparently this is Game On.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpkecYVRt_E

    1. R Mac   9 months ago

      Strategically and reluctantly, we have to support WW3.

      — Reason

  4. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    ...before being cut off by Harris: "I'm not finished. I'm not finished."

    Debatable.

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      "Hold on, you haven't heard my talking point on this for the 100th time all the way through!"

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        I don't remember her telling us she is from the middle class. She failed.

        1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          Standard middle class upbringing with Berkeley professors for parents in the bay area and then Canada. Really, a struggle that is American as apple pie, completely relatable.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Doesn't her male companion usually decide when she is finished?

      1. Randy Sax   9 months ago

        I don't think they really care when or if she finishes.

    3. damikesc   9 months ago

      She just repeated, virtually word for word, the same filibuster bullshit she always says.

      That her staff BOTH shortened the interview AND had her arrive late, I imagine, did not thrill him.

  5. Chumby   9 months ago

    Patriot missile manufacturer fined almost $1B

    US weapons maker Raytheon has been charged with foreign bribery and inflating federal contracts.

    – Russia Today

    Guess their legal defense team worked as well as their products.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      In other news, Raytheon increases cost of patriot missles supplied to the US government by $1 billion. Congressmen, who are totally not on the dole, approve new spending.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      For Jeff since he only trusts gov sources.

      https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/raytheon-company-pay-over-950m-connection-defective-pricing-foreign-bribery-and-export

      1. Chumby   9 months ago

        It is more fun using certain sources first to read the rage seethe responses.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    And Harris is partially correct that the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021—the bill she was ostensibly referencing—would have simplified the asylum-seeking process...

    Not really the mood of the people right now.

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      It’s real simple when it’s automatic.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Just let the wanna-be migrants vote from their home countries.

  7. Super Scary   9 months ago

    "Harris responded: "At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress—before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation Reduction Act, before the CHIPS and Science Act, before any, before the bipartisan Safer Communities Act—the first bill, practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration system.""

    Yes, we know what "first" means Kamala. What the fuck?

    1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

      Word salad tossers gonna toss.

      1. Super Scary   9 months ago

        It’s like she's trying to reach a specific word count in a college paper.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   9 months ago

          Or waiting for her staff to get in motion and speak into her earrings.

          1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

            If that's the case, she needs better staffers, because she never gets to a point or straight-answers a question.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   9 months ago

              They probably fell asleep listening to her drone on and on and on.

              1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

                LOL

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

        Is there any video of her tossing salads at McDonald’s 40 years ago?

        I might watch that. You know, in a 2 girls/1 cup kind of curiosity.

        1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

          Just gotta google a few terms here...

          Eewwwwwwwwwwwooohnooooo

  8. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    RNC heard some issues with drop boxes in Detroit. File FOIA. Detroit runs out thr clock and deletes footage after 30 days, responding footage had been deleted.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/rnc-sues-detroit-over-deleting-ballot-dropbox-surveillance-footage-after

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      No widespread deleting.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Reluctantly.

  9. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    FEMA: we are broke
    Biden Hariss: hey Ukraine, want another 425M?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense/3191656/biden-425-million-aid-ukraine/

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      Bum: “can you give me bus fare?”
      Me: how do I know you won’t just buy drugs with it?”
      Bum: “oh, I got drug money”!

  10. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Gov Shapiro gives 20M to activist to resegragate schools.

    El-Mekki, a former middle and high school teacher and principal, founded the Center for Black Educator Development (CBED) in 2019, which defines its vision as “a world where. . . all black students are taught by high-quality, same-race teachers,” and where “all teachers demonstrate high levels of expertise in anti-racist mindsets.” CBED argues that employing black teachers to educate black students increases educational outcomes.

    https://www.thefp.com/p/black-nationalist-josh-shapiro-segregation-bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      Nothing says progress like “separate but equal”.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Those kids won't indoctrinate themselves.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   9 months ago

          “all teachers demonstrate high levels of expertise in anti-racist mindsets.”

      2. damikesc   9 months ago

        Well, Gov Faubus WAS a Democrat. Who'd have thought he'd be back in the mainstream thought of the party so quickly?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

      Democrats: knowing what’s best for black people since 1828.

      1. Anomalous   9 months ago

        Somewhere, Woodrow Wilson is smiling.

        1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

          Well, maybe only half smiling, half drooling droop.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      CBED argues that employing black teachers to educate black students increases educational outcomes.

      If El-Mekki's claim was true, Oakland would be one of the highest performing school districts in the country. This is really the Freirean methodology of using schools to create marxist activists, where actual educational attainment is secondary or even irrelevant to recruiting foot soldiers for the communist revolution.

    4. Nobartium   9 months ago

      Integration remains a mistake, example #15683

    5. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

      I thought we used to have that.

  11. Social Justice is neither   9 months ago

    I notice Liz going for the lie about the 2020 election without bothering to touch on the midnight ballot dumps 95% for Biden just as I’d expect from a DNC regime footlocker. Does Reason require you to be a Democrat propagandist in the hiring?

    The Bair interview was not hard, just basic questions the interviewer didn’t allow her to ignore. And as to not giving Democrats the W on legislation that amounts to "open the border and shaft the American taxpayer" fuck you Liz, Democrats shouldn't win by screwing over Ameticans.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      But screwing over Americans is the Democratic mission.

    2. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

      I notice Liz going for the lie about the 2020 election without bothering to touch on the midnight ballot dumps 95% for Biden just as I’d expect from a DNC regime footlocker.

      Hey, I already sent in my pallet of mail in ballots. I got my suitcase on wheels packed with prefilled Harris ballots and my 4 pound "leak maker" hammer.

      Will any of you let me know any of the jurisdictions that will be crucial swing vote precincts so I can volunteer to "count" ballots there? That's critical. Oh, also keep this on the down-low as the whole conspiracy is dependent on all of us keeping quiet; four years and counting for our tight lips on the last one.

      1. Dillinger   9 months ago

        they fucking told you how they did it in Time magazine lol tight lips

        1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

          shhhhhh

          Yes, Molly really screwed up with that article. We chastised her at the meetings. But in retrospect it was perfectly done. I mean the more people know it happened without being able to prove it, the better. She never revealed names or exactly how we stole the election, nor gives any actual evidence. Her article reads just like accusations Trump's team would make. The few specifics she gives just stick to the legal stuff like rule changes or oversight.

          Gotta give her credit. She got the clicks, but maintained deniability by making it read like someone without inside knowledge of anything could have written such a inflammatory and suggestive article. THANK GOD no conservatives bothered to follow up on the story, because it's all hanging out right there for easy picking...

          1. Dillinger   9 months ago

            your faux deprecation is as entertaining as it is absolutely truthful.

            1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

              Crap. I was shooting for ridiculous with the parody. Glad at least someone is taking it in good spirits though.

              For me, after 4 years, I think the truth would be out like it is for COVID, the laptop and the twitter files. This one's either not correct, or very well done. And since the winners write history, I'm right either way.

              1. Dillinger   9 months ago

                >>I was shooting for ridiculous with the parody.

                then you are on fire. continue.

        2. Uilleam   9 months ago

          https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

          'Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time.'

        3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          You can’t help the intentionally ignorant who ignore actual court rulings, States admitting to illegal votes, are against any vote verification, and push cleanest election ever narratives.

          He keeps defending even known illegal voters having been caught.

          1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

            He keeps defending even known illegal voters having been caught.

            Who is he?

      2. tracerv   9 months ago

        Try Fulton Co Georgia you dumb fuck. Maybe you can call in a fake water line leak or something.

        1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

          Who needs fake? That's what the hammer's for.

    3. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

      imagine flipping a coin 3 million times and you get 1.49 million heads and 1.51 million tails.

      Then you take a break at midnighta nd start flipping the coin again at 3a.m. You flip 300,000 more times and get 290,000 tails.

      that's what the 2020 election was and no sane person believes it was legit.

      1. Uilleam   9 months ago

        How many states violated election law under the pretext of a covid health emergency? Most secure election ever.

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        This. Total mail in ballots disparity was around 60/40. Then all these statistically anomalous counts all only 1 direction. The exact same behaviors the Jimmy Carter Vote Integrity group used to point to for fraud in other countries.

        Democrats are literally suing to disallow total ballot counts before voting starts. The most basic of checks for fraud.

    4. damikesc   9 months ago

      He also tried to limit her rather blatant attempt to filibuster the interview so she can say she did one and continue not answering anything.

  12. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    KamalaWins account outed as fresh out of college White House Aid.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/kamalas-wins-viral-source-of-pro-kamala-misinformation-was-launched-by-biden-admin-employee

    Some of the posts appear to be on the clock.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      How many Palestine flags?

    2. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

      But we need to elect the AI czar to protect us from misinformation

      1. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

        Love that this is an x dot com account too.

        Scorched earth victory for elon

    3. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

      So Hatch Act issues?

  13. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Thomas Massie recorded a call with CDC curing covid showing them lying. Video in link.

    Thomas Massie
    @RepThomasMassie
    In December of 2020, I caught CDC lying about Pfizer COVID vaccine trial data. I recorded phone conversations with CDC where they admitted I was right. My late wife Rhonda suggested I give the tapes to
    @SharylAttkisson
    . I did and Sharyl exposed CDC. Watch:

    https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1846486216977400309

    Jeff will be here shortly to call Massie dishonest.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Dude, using what Democrats actually said against them is racist.

    2. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

      Why is this only coming out now?

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        It isn’t. Massie haw been forward with this shit since 2019. But he has kept having repeated conversations with these agencies.

        Big tip for you QB. Government agencies aren’t honest. They will often lie even in the face of evidence. Sometimes repeated inquiries are needed to uncover actual facts.

        But ignore this for your cleanest election ever narratives. Government would never lie there. Just ignore the ongoing 2020 election cases still proceeding uncovering more and more bullshit like Fulton County having 3 different final counts during recounts, evidence of double scanning votes, etc. You can trust government with elections.

        1. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

          Was the recording released earlier?

          Because everybody says anything, but hearing the recorded admission is very different.

        2. Quicktown Brix   9 months ago

          Big tip for you QB. Government agencies aren’t honest

          Thanks for the tip. The problem I have is that very few people are honest. Government agencies are liars, Trump's a liar, news sites are liars and people online are liars. Then you have the people that believe the liars, maybe that's me, maybe that's you. So I end up knowing nothing. Eventually a consensus seems to deliver an agreed truth like with COVID, vaccines, laptops and twitter files. The stolen election "truth" is not forthcoming.

          You're right. I have stopped staying up to date on 2020 election court cases so maybe I'll be shown to be wrong. As for the 3 counts in Fulton Co., as I recal,l they were all within expected error and all showed Biden won.

          And you don't need to strawman me about cleanest election ever. I know there was shady rule changes and lack of security. But if the election was outright stolen, we would know it by now.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    Ms. Harris, who is known as an effective practitioner of the filibuster...

    I don't know how effective the cackling part of that filibuster is.

  15. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Vance memes Marth Raddatz and it is actually funny.

    https://x.com/JDVance/status/1846647177961263142

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

      I like it. I’ve found I like JD Vance far better than I originally thought I would.

      #JDVance2028

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        Same.

        We were wrong about how JD Vance is wrong.

      2. Zeb   9 months ago

        Yeah, I thought he wasn't the best choice at first too. But seems like it was probably pretty smart choice.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

          Something tells me that if Trump wins this thing, Vance is actually going to be the one directing traffic. Trump is old as shit, and Vance has glowie connections through his association with Peter Thiel.

          Speaking of VP candidates, Tianamen Tim wants us to think he's some dumb hayseed instead of an experienced politician in his 60s:

          "I don't even know what a venture capitalist does!"

          LOL, yeah, Tim, pull the other one. This guy's got the same fake Howdy Doody act that John Kasich pulled all the time when he ran for President. "Gawrsh, can you believe I'm standing here, today?"

          1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

            Red...Don't you want a self-identifying knucklehead as your VP?! 🙂

          2. Zeb   9 months ago

            Yeah, Walz seems like a big mistake by the Ds.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   9 months ago

              I think they were hoping he'd make Kamala look capable by comparison. Impeachment-proof her afterwards.

            2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

              They might be throwing this one. Only way to rationalize tampon timmayy.

              1. Zeb   9 months ago

                Either that or they are even more of an incompetent clown show than even I imagined.

          3. R Mac   9 months ago

            Did he say the comment about it in person before it was tweeted? When I saw the tweet I assumed it was some 20 something retard staff running his social media that doesn’t actually know what a venture capitalist is other than evil.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

              LOL, nope, that was him.

              Again, I don't think he's so stupid that he doesn't know what a VC does; these are big donors that provide millions to campaigns, including the ones he's run. He's just being a fake-ass because he thinks it appeals to the pea-pickers.

    2. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

      Hilarious...I also LOL'ed at his crack about writing his own books and not plagiarizing.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

      So you're saying that JD Vance is not wrong about Raddatz?

      1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

        Raddatz looks and sounds like one of those childless cat ladies.

  16. 10percenter   9 months ago

    If you only looked at Reddit, you would think Harris dominated Baier and gave an awesome interview.

    No minds were changed after watching that. Everyone's priors were confirmed.

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      The knob slobbering on yahoo was sickening.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Reddit is a bigger liberal cesspool than Jeff's moms basement.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

        And it’s about as much a cesspool (in other ways) as Shrike’s basement.

      2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        Do you think Jeffy can still ma manage a toilet? Or does he just shit himself?

  17. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'The New York Times comically portrayed this not as Harris declining to answer the initial question, or Harris questionably blaming record-high numbers of border apprehensions on her opponent, but as malfeasance on Baier's part. "It took him less than 20 seconds to interrupt her for the first time. Ms. Harris, who is known as an effective practitioner of the filibuster, had hardly even begun to answer his opening question. That pattern continued for much of the interview." How is that the takeaway?'

    Because the NYT is staffed by a bunch of left wing cunts who will say anything they think furthers the progressive agenda, which starts with getting Harris elected (and exalted).

    1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

      Yeah I figured the MSM would go with the 'Bret was a brute!' meme.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    Dimwitted TikTokker tore down Greek flags at NJ restaurant thinking they were Israeli...

    She left her buddies behind on that one.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Well, how many Greeks are marching in support of Hamas?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

        Wouldn’t they be marching in support of Hummus instead?

        1. Randy Sax   9 months ago

          The Greek don't march. It's mostly fat, hairy, 50 year olds sunbathing at nude beaches while Germans pay for their healthcare.

          1. Ska   9 months ago

            Given the option, I'll take tavli and frappe over standing in traffic for terrorists.

    2. Zeb   9 months ago

      She didn't pause to wonder why Israeli flags would have crosses on them?

      1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

        Look at her picture...does she look particularly detail oriented to you?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

          Need to see more. Does she have any misspelled tattoos?

      2. Rick James   9 months ago

        It's the colors and stripes, bro.

      3. Rick James   9 months ago

        I also like the subtext here. It would have been ok if the flags had in fact, been Israeli...

        1. Zeb   9 months ago

          Well, OK in that person's mind anyway. Too bad Ukraine and Israel don't have the same colors on their flags, then these idiots would be really confused.

    3. mad.casual   9 months ago

      I remain unconvinced that she's not a TikTokker of average intellect.

      1. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   9 months ago

        I'm fairly certain she's above average intelligence, for a TikTokker. They're not a very bright bunch.

    4. A Thinking Mind   9 months ago

      If they were Israeli flags, of course, she'd have been utterly justified.

  19. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Harris responded: "At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress—before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation Reduction Act, before the CHIPS and Science Act, before any, before the bipartisan Safer Communities Act—the first bill, practically within hours of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our immigration system."

    Why didn't you include Brets response to this where he correctly points out the bill was just to give amnesty to millions of illegal, not to secure the border?

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Guess you added it here. No objection.

      And Harris is partially correct that the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021—the bill she was ostensibly referencing—would have simplified the asylum-seeking process, reduced administrative burdens on people seeking employment-related visas, and provided a pathway to citizenship for people who entered the country as kids through the DACA program.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      But then this...

      Harris is also correct that Trump has repeatedly alluded to sinking immigration legislation due to not wanting to give Democrats the W.

      He was against the bill that would legalize 1.8M illegals a year.

      Total award: moderate liz

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

        The only thing that the bill did that could possibly constitute "amnesty" was for Afghan refugees, who were our allies over there. I would think that you would be at least open to consider this type of accommodation.

        The rest of it, when you and your team say "legalize 1.8 million illegals", what that really means is that under the bill, the asylum processes were sped up, with less due process for the asylum applicants and stricter conditions for when asylum applications were granted. Because the decisions would be sped up, there would be more decisions per year. Hence your misleading figure of "legalizing 1.8 million illegals" because while their case is pending they have temporary legal status. But under the status quo, that many illegals or more are "legalized" but the downside is that their cases drag on and on, sometimes for years.

        1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          Yes, it’s so easy to speed up a government process.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

      What you and your team fail to recognize, is that legalizing and regularizing the legal status of peaceful migrants in this country, IS a type of border security. Because if the border patrol isn't hassling penniless Guatemalans, their resources are freed up to go after the genuinely 'bad hombres'.

      1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

        Cuz you can tell the bad guys from the good guys by looking at them.

      2. sarcasmic   9 months ago

        Yup. If there was a legal way for people who just want to work to be quickly vetted and documented, border patrol could concentrate on actual criminals who evade the legal process.

        Problem with that is that Jesse and his team start with the premise that immigration is bad. They don’t arrive at that logically from prior premises. It’s their starting point, and anything that contradicts that premise is dismissed out of hand. So any talk with them about a quick and legal means for people who just want to work to enter the country and work is a non-starter because it contradicts their core principle.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          I love how yours and jeffs solution is more but faster government despite the fact that illegals have crossed in any system. Ironically this was the Bush immigration plan killed by democrats including Obama. To give more seasonal work visas.

          But then when it is pointed out to you and Jeff that your plan doesn't work as the total number of jobs for people crossing don't exist, you guys dig into your consistent ignorance.

          Roughly 15% of those on TPS workers have jobs, they can work. When NYC offered work permits, 4% applied. Even Powell said importing 7M workers for 1M jobs was a failing plan. But you and Jeff ignore reality.

          It is amazing actually.

          Meanwhile both of you run in to every thread calling everyone racist for pointing out the money being spent on illegals. For the raising housing and rent prices from importation of illegals.

          You both know your "idea" doesn't work. They will still cross illegally. You don't care.

          Your real goal is Marxist open borders and societal disruption. This is why you had waive away all facts.

          You and Jeff are morons and no evidence will ever change your ignorant views.

          1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

            A nice combination of lies, fallacies, and just plain missing the point. Bravo.

            Disclaimer: Failure to address every lie and false premise in Jesse’s comment is not to be misconstrued as tacit agreement with those lies and false premises.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Thank you for proving my assertions by simply ignoring the facts present in the post.

              Disclaimer: sarc is a fucking idiot.

              1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                The “facts” in your post are irrelevant.
                I’m talking about creating an easy way for those who want to work to legally enter the country and work.
                You’re obviously talking about people who don’t want to work.

                That’s not clever. It’s dishonest and stupid, or for you a day that ends in ‘y’.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

                  And how can you, Sarc, tell the two apart? Especially those who cross merely because they were told it was a land of milk and honey? Here’s a hint, most of these folks are lied to by the NGOs about life here. They’re lied to about the jobs, about the climate, and about how they’d get along here.

                  1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                    And how can you, Sarc, tell the two apart?

                    Oh, I don't know. Create a system of quick legal entry that checks immigrants for diseases, runs a background check, documents them, and then keeps track of them. If it turns out they didn't want to work, send them back.

                    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

                      So a 90% open border?

                    2. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                      Open to healthy non-criminals who want to work and are willing to go through a streamlined legal process including documentation, but also with conditions. Number one being to get a fucking job.

                    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                      So the roughly 40% (some estimates at 90%) on parole who don’t remain in contact with DHS…

                      Do you do any research or put any thought into your ideas?

                      When I say your ideas are based on ignorance, this is what I mean.

                      Also notice nowhere do you state removing benefits for this class of workers (that exists) you want.

                      Again. Even those with work permits overstay their visa retard.

                      Basically legalize everyone, ignore what is already occurring. Don't touch benefits to them. The sarc plan.

                    4. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

                      are willing to go through a streamlined legal process

                      As we all know, if there's one thing the govt excels at, it's creating streamlined legal processes.

                    5. damikesc   9 months ago

                      Wouldn't that require the "ID checks everywhere" fear people like, well, you freak about incessantly?

                    6. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

                      How about: stop handing out free shit or any sort to illegal aliens, as a starter (cut free shit for legal immigrants and citizens, too, but at least start with the free shit for illegal aliens). No more rent assistance, no more food, no more cell phones, no more hotel rooms, no more video games, no more cash or gift cards.

                    7. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

                      "Wouldn’t that require the “ID checks everywhere” fear people like, well, you freak about incessantly?"

                      Yeah, Jeff isn't going to like that.

                2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  Yes. Your system exists. We have work visas. Even those on those visas overstay. We don’t have jobs for everyone who wants to work.

                  Do you need a picture or something? Are you going to deport those without jobs?

                  Work it out sarc. Prove you aren’t a high school drop out.

                  1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                    No, my system does not exist. Work visas are a burdensome process and they’re capped well below demand. I’m talking about something streamlined, with a higher cap or maybe no cap at all.

                    Your inability to understand what others are saying is just plain tiresome. You can keep on arguing. Make stuff up to argue against, you're good at that. I'm done.

                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

                      I’m talking about something streamlined

                      I suggest the Harris administrations’ first act be to create a new gov’t Department of Streamlining. Maybe move buttigieg, or half-whitmer over to be in charge of it.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

                      Your system doesn’t account for how many of these “migrants” are actually trafficked for off the book jobs from domestic servants (read: slaves) to sex slaves, especially minors. Those are the people who wind up at places like Epstein’s island or at a Diddy party, idiot.

                    3. damikesc   9 months ago

                      The demand for virtual slave labor, yes, is quite high.

                    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                      Cite on well bellow demand?

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

            Here, Jesse and his team support the free market and the capitalist system for organizing labor and capital for creating jobs - let capital be free to start businesses however it wishes, free of government interference and mandates to dictate who should create which jobs where. And labor will naturally flow to where the jobs are, no need for government programs to tell labor where to go.

            Except, when it comes to immigration.

            1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

              What are you talking about? They, like Trump and Vance, want the government to organize those things with tariffs, subsidies, and other industrial policies.

              1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

                Ideas!

              2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                Disclaimer: sarc is a fucking idiot who never talks about people only ideas.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

              Here, chemtard claims the free market won't adjust to having less Third World peon labor. Apparently a "free market" can only function with nonstop influxes of migrants.

              1. damikesc   9 months ago

                They've also gone from "Doing the jobs Americans do not want to do" to "doing jobs Americans very much want to do, but since they can be paid illegally and cannot complain about it, they are preferable"

            3. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

              Just stop using the government to take from taxpayers and give to illegal aliens. Stop handing out free shit to illegal aliens. Then let's talk about the other things.

      3. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

        Rewarding illegal crossing will in no way encourage more illegal crossing. In fact, there will be no more illegal crossings because all the migrants are peaceful and the border will be completely secure. - Jeffy.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          They know their plan will never stop illegal immigration but they push this as a "fix" when in reality they just want open borders.

          Even with temporary work visas that exist, illegals cross.

          We don't have jobs for everyone who wants to cross. That is just a fact.

          We don't have housing or infrastructure for everyone who wants to come. That's just a fact.

          Jeffsarc knows this, but they continue to lie about it when the real motivation is again supporting welfare based open borders. They call those against welfare based open borders racist. Never saying to stop welfare to illegals.

          1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

            They know their plan will never stop illegal immigration but they push this as a “fix” when in reality they just want open borders.

            Ignore what they say and substitute this strawman instead.

            Even with temporary work visas that exist, illegals cross.

            Yes, because the number of people who want to work is much greater than the number of visas. You're almost getting it.

            We don’t have jobs for everyone who wants to cross. That is just a fact.

            Zero-sum fallacy. There is not a fixed number of jobs. People create demand which creates jobs.

            We don’t have housing or infrastructure for everyone who wants to come. That’s just a fact.

            That complaint has some merit, though that problem was created by government, not immigrants.

            Jeffsarc knows this, but they continue to lie about it when the real motivation is again supporting welfare based open borders. They call those against welfare based open borders racist. Never saying to stop welfare to illegals.

            Blah blah blah. Yeah, when people say they want to allow those who want to work to legally enter the country and work, that's really code for wanting them to go on welfare and vote for Democrats. Fucking idiot.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Yes, because the number of people who want to work is much greater than the number of visas. You’re almost getting it.

              Greater than the number of jobs. You're still not getting it. See the numbers above. See Powells comments.

              Disclaimer: sarc is an ignorant fucking idiot.

              1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                Zero-sum fallacy for the win!

                1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  Still not using it correctly. Your system only works if a job exists for everyone who wants to come over.

                  Disclaimer: sarc is a fucking idiot.

                2. R Mac   9 months ago

                  Haha, what a fucking moron.

                3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  Goddamn drunken retard bitch. Really going to enjoy slapping you around for this too.

                  I should publish a daily vocabulary list of new words for your to butcher.

            2. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

              that problem was created by government, not immigrants.

              Sarc, please consult chemjeff’s style guide – the approved term is now “migrant”.

              “Immigrant” is a racist dog-whistle, only used by nazi’s, or worse yet, trump supporters.

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

            Even with temporary work visas that exist, illegals cross.

            There's no such thing as a perfect solution. But letting peaceful migrants cross the border freely is better than spending billions of dollars throwing penniless Guatemalans in cages.

            We don’t have jobs for everyone who wants to cross. That is just a fact.

            We don’t have housing or infrastructure for everyone who wants to come. That’s just a fact.

            Tell us, Jesse, when large numbers of citizens started migrating to Arizona in the 1950's and 1960's or so, did Arizona already have the jobs and infrastructure available to accommodate all of those new residents? Or, did the opportunities and infrastructure flow as a result of the migration?

            "There's no infrastructure" is such a convenient excuse for your team, because no city will have the infrastructure for migrants (either citizens or immigrants) who haven't migrated there yet. So it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The way to deal with "no infrastructure" is the same way it's been done in the past: as a place organically grows, city leaders try to plan and accommodate the needs of their growing area, and libertarians ought to make it as easy as we can for them to do so. That is the solution. Not this catch-22 of "there's no infrastructure so we can't have more migrants" followed by "there's no migrants coming so there's no need to build more infrastructure".

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

              Because there isn’t the infrastructure, dork. What do you think happens when you dump 15,000 of them in a city of only 58,000? Or 2,000 of them in a town of 6,000? Do you think the infrastructure just magically appears, springing from the ground like grass?

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                They will again never admit these issues. Their plan would allow 1B in and they would claim infrastructure and jobs would simply immediately appear.

                While they continue to ignore government spending even on TPS migrants who literally have work permits.

                They are 2 of the dumbest, most dishonest people here.

                We already have Visas like H1 visaswhose number of allowed visas changed based on employment estimates. People still cross illegally.

                Sarc and Jeff are literally advocating for a system that is currently present and we still have millions illegally crossing.

                They are really really dumb people.

            2. sarcasmic   9 months ago

              Tell us, Jesse, when large numbers of citizens started migrating to Arizona in the 1950’s and 1960’s or so, did Arizona already have the jobs and infrastructure available to accommodate all of those new residents? Or, did the opportunities and infrastructure flow as a result of the migration?

              Yeah, Jesse. Tell us. According to you there are the same number of jobs available now as there were in 1955.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                You two are fucking retarded aren’t you.

                Jobs increase. They do not magically appear on a 1 for 1 basis for everyone who crosses a border.

                You and Jeff are dumber than people claiming the Keyenesian multiplier is greater than 1.

                We already know the job creation ratio isn’t one as we have unemployment. Not everyone who wants a job has a job. Yet you and Jeff ignorantly think jobs will magically appear if we let 10M in a year.

                You two are fucking idiots.

                It is on you two to show how these jobs would magically appear. Historical data does not show this.

                Even if 99% of those jobs appear you’re growing unemployment. But you two morons are more concerned with narratives than logic.

                Look how quickly you accepted Jeffs ignorant premise instead of thinking about it for even 5 seconds.

                Won't even get into worker displacement and how importing 3M workers to replace citizens also bears a cost as those citizens go to welfare programs.

                Have you ever tried logical or intelligent construction of your thoughts?

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  Sarc is Jeffy’s pet. He just reflexively goes along with Pedo Jeffy’s Sorosite bullshit.

              2. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

                Does this apply to Martha's vineyard?

              3. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

                LOL, yeah, because the only mass migration that took place in Arizona after World War II was from across the border.

                And considering Phoenix is reliant on a rather large amount of water being supplied from the CAP, and is drinking up its groundwater at such massive levels it's causing sinkholes to appear, I'd say encouraging non-stop growth there probably isn't a good idea.

            3. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

              " billions of dollars throwing penniless Guatemalans in cages."

              Fuck, all I want to do is to stop government from handing them free shit at my expense.

      4. Social Justice is neither   9 months ago

        Yes Jeffy, and we can get rid of rape and murdering we just legalize it or refuse to prosecute. That is your idea of a genius plan.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago

          peaceful migration =/= rape and murder

          BUT WHATABOUT LAKEN REILLY????

          Laken Reilly's murderer wasn't stopped at the border because the Border Patrol agents were too busy hassling penniless Guatemalans who weren't a threat to anyone.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

            They weren’t hassling anyone at all, dipshit. Had they been allowed to do their jobs and detain/turn back illegal crossers, there’s more of a chance Ms. Riley would still be alive today.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Pedo Jeffy will never admit that.

          2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

            "Laken Reilly’s murderer wasn’t stopped at the border because the Border Patrol agents were too busy hassling penniless Guatemalans who weren’t a threat to anyone."

            Sounds like a military presence with more men, and more bullets, would have made it so Riley's killer and the guatemalans didnt get it.

            We tried your way, and the results have been horrendous. Now we need to try a different way. I would feel bad about it, but we told you this would happen

            1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

              We tried your way

              That's a whole lot of stupid right there. He's saying that peaceful people who want to come here and work should have a quick legal means of doing so, so border patrol can focus on bad guys who would avoid the legal process.
              THAT CURRENTLY DOES NOT EXIST.
              So saying "We tried your way" is either ignorant or just plain dishonest.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                We have work visas you fucking moron.

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  But Jesse, didn’t you know that letting every worthless drunk, morbidly obese sophist retard, and every Soros worshiping pedophile cross the border at will is the best way to do things.

        2. sarcasmic   9 months ago

          I imagine that during Prohibition you would have argued that because some people who consume alcohol commit crimes, that alcohol should remain illegal. And if someone said we should legalize the booze and go after actual rapist and murderers, instead of expending tons of effort going after all drinkers, you'd accuse them of wanting to legalize rape and murder.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

            For your solution to work, the jobs have to be there. Please provide evidence jobs would magically appear for thr global population crossing or wants to cross.

            I've given you evidence that the jobs don't exist. I know, I know. You're retarded so you think a magic jobs fairy creates a job whenever somebody wants one.

            In your proposed system, how do you stop immigrants from crossing who do not have a job?

            Hint. Your system is essentially H12B and even immigrants on that visa for not have full employment.

            Your system exists but illegal immigration still exists.

            You're a fucking idiot sarc.

            1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

              Zero-sum fallacy.

              Disclaimer: Failure to address every lie and false premise in Jesse’s comment is not to be misconstrued as tacit agreement with those lies and false premises.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                Another fallacy you don't understand. By god man. How do you bat 100% on misuse?

                For you to prove your system will stop illegal immigration you need to prove there is a job for everyone who wants one or a system in place to stop or deport those without jobs.

                Do you ever think through your fucking dumb "ideas?"

                H1 Visa is what you are proposing. Again not even h1 visa orders are fully employed.

                1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                  That explains why no new jobs are ever created.

                  1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                    Jeff tried this bit of idiocy above. And you being the moron you are latch onto it like a retarded puppy.

                    Is there current unemployment in the US, yes or no?

                    Jobs are not present for everyone who wants to work legally now. Yet yours and jeffs assertion is that jobs will magically appear.

                    The Job growth rate doesn’t match the worker growth rate with current numbers. Now immediately add in 10M new workers a year onto that. Who is creating the 10M new jobs?

                    Disclaimer: sarc is a fucking idiot.

                  2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                    I will ask one simple question to show how full of shit you are.

                    Are you willing to deport anyone in your plan without a job?

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

            Do you just spend all your time thinking of dumb ass strawmen?

            1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

              If you weren't a retarded middle-schooler who starts giggling and loses concentration after seeing the first four letters of the word, you might know what an analogy is.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                Another you statement. Guess you lie about your principles.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

                Shall we add “analogy” as yet another word Sarc doesn’t understand?

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  Yes.

              3. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

                ^Never attacks people, that is the mean girls do^

              4. Super Scary   9 months ago

                "you might know what an analogy is."

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR33ydE5QSY

              5. R Mac   9 months ago

                Pour psarc. Very dumb.

      5. Bill Dalasio   9 months ago

        "Legalizing murder IS a type of crime prevention. If you just let people who got a little carried away off the hook, then you can free up resources to go after the genuine mass murderers."

        It's the same demented attempt at semi-logic. All I can count on you to respond with is a moronic suggestion that I'm equating murder and illegal border crossing. Because modern leftists (especially those posing as libertarians) are too stupid to understand the concept of an analogy.

      6. But SkyNet is a Private Company   9 months ago

        How do you tell the difference, dipshit?

    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Around minute mark 24, Baier asks about Iran sanctions and Harris spends 38 seconds (I counted!) talking about Trump's rhetoric toward service members, ultimately failing to answer the actual question.

      This included the calling soldiers losers lie which Reason has pushed.

    5. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      Its also such a moot point.

      "It really doesn't matter what bills you introduced when you had power. Unprecedented millions of illegals came in on your watch, full stop"

  20. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    Manufactured diversity doesn't work.

    Depends on your actual goal.

    1. Dillinger   9 months ago

      left always tells you the truth if you listen.

  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'An adversarial media gives us that information; a sycophantic media does not.'

    Our modern J-school madrassas know this. But guess what they teach as the core mission of media?

  22. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'Scenes from New York: Ha.'

    Didn't we see this yesterday?

    Liz, time to drop this bit.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      +1

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

      I can give scenes from Chicago as a counter. Here’s one:

      https://x.com/chicagocontrar1/status/1846722853795987961?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

      This is absolutely vile.

      This is not the work of some crank spraying graffiti on a wall. Someone paid for and someone accepted payment for this billboard.

      Hint: It's much worse than you think.

      Image: @ChiJewishAllies.

      Someone hacked an electronic billboard to say “Fuck Israel” and “Death to Israel” in front of a Palestinian flag.

      1. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

        what's wrong with saying fuck israel? it is a nation state.

    3. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

      Well, I t could be titled "Scenes From a Strange Planet".

    4. Minadin   9 months ago

      ML posted it in the comments, but it wasn't in the Roundup proper.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Sorry. I guess I have decided that the comments ARE the Roundup.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    To focus on Elon Musk's politics is to exhibit a ridiculous monomania that, among other things, badly misunderstands the wages of genius.

    All they have to offer is virtue signaling, so that's all the value you're going to get out of them.

    1. mad.casual   9 months ago

      Was anyone expecting a TikTok full of people who understand the wages of genius?

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    "The number of migrants coming through the Darien Gap increased by 51% in September as more Venezuelans crossed the treacherous jungle following Nicolas Maduro's disputed reelection"

    I'm sure they are going to Costa Rica for vacation.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      Just peaceful migrants looking for work.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'Yesterday, officials in Italy cracked down on seeking surrogacy abroad. It is already banned domestically.'

    Does that include knocking up your mistress?

  26. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Fox has its flaws—namely, its role in spreading stolen-election myths, which has resulted in a huge loss of credibility (as well as $787 million dollars).
    ...
    following Nicolas Maduro's disputed reelection,"

    Too funny

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'Michigan's failed DEI experiment'

    How many were FBI informants?

  28. Moderation4ever   9 months ago

    It was a good interview, and I do think Kamala Harris held her own. Before we judge it, I like to see Trump's interview with Rachel Maddow first. OK, Rachel might be too tough, but I would think Trump could at least handle Andrea Mitchell.

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      Baer is a pretty tame conservative. Maddow is unhinged, full on far left, the equivalent would be Harris going on Hannity.

      Also, Trump and Vance have about 100x more appearances with unfriendly outfits. Trump fucking went face to face with rabid black journalists who clearly were there to absolutely stick it to him and he sat down to their face and said "bring it"

      Just stop, you are embarrassing yourself. The cope levels are too high here.

      1. Moderation4ever   9 months ago

        Please note that I acknowledged Rachael Maddow would not be a fair comparison, but what about Andrea Mitchell? Could you accept any MSNBC host or are you admitting that Harris went into the lion's den that Trump will not do. Also Trump rarely does any interviews with unfriendly groups. When he is questioned, he does not explain his answers but rather attacks the questioner.

        Harris made her points and was never unfriendly to Baier.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

          Yet Harris never actually answered any of Baier’s questions. Do you live in lala land?

          1. R Mac   9 months ago

            He’s a parody.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

          LOL, sure AJ, as if Trump hasn't already been doing multiple interviews with a hostile press, along with his VP, while Harris and Walz went into turtling mode before finally having to accept that they needed to do more than than a curated hand-holding session.

          Scuttle back to your den, rat.

          1. R Mac   9 months ago

            AJ?

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

              He's got the same faux-centrist posting style as a commenter called AJ_Liberty at Patterico's blog. I know that guy reads the comments here because he actually quoted me in turn about Haley wanting to get rid of internet anonymity.

              Basically a guy who's constantly saying, "Look, I know the Dems aren't great, but right-wing populism is really the biggest threat to the country right now and we have to compromise to get anything done!" even before Trump came along.

        3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          You're aware of Andrea Mitchell and the issues last time she interviewed Trump, or no?

          She is also heavily biased and has been caught disceptively editing GOP statements since Romney.

          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/06/andrea_mitchell_trump_slamming_nbc_a_badge_of_honor_trump_doesnt_like_women_in_free_press.html

        4. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          He did a CNN town hall with resting bitch face, actively antagonistic fact checking him in real time Kaitlyn Collins. He has done multiple CNN town halls. Vance talks to just about any news camera that will have him on. NABJ jumped on Trump, predictably, from go. Trump and Vance dont have to "go into the lions den" because they do it on the regular, its the nature of being conservative in a MSM landscape that is full on captured by the left. Trump and Vance have done plenty of interviews equivalent to Mitchell, and Maddow is clearly a silly false equivalence that belongs no where in the convo.

          The only reason its so notable that Harris went somewhere antagonistic (again, Baier is pretty tame as conservatives go), is because they know their hiding her in the basement and behind celebrities strat has grossly failed. The fact that this is being touted as some kind of accomplishment really is more of a commentary about how MSM journos as a whole havent done their job in the least and how far the overton window has shifted.

    2. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      Parody.

      1. Moderation4ever   9 months ago

        Parody = I have no response

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   9 months ago

          Are you calling Kamala a parody? Of what -- Walz?

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

          Consider it an in-kind contribution, rat.

          1. R Mac   9 months ago

            Yeah, he should take it as a compliment. Because if he’s not, he’s a fucking retard.

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Hmmm......

      Harry Sisson
      @harryjsisson
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      Wow. Kamala Harris was flawless in that Fox News interview. She answered tough questions and discussed the issues. Could you image Trump sitting down with Jen Psaki or Rachel Maddow? It would be a disaster. A true masterclass from VP Harris.

      Victor Shi
      @Victorshi2020
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      Can’t stop thinking about what would have happened if Donald Trump went on MSNBC or CNN & was grilled as hard as Brett Baier just grilled Kamala Harris.

      VP Harris answered every question. Thoughtfully. Logically. Presidentially. Kamala Harris showed how it’s done on Fox. Bravo.

      1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

        hey man, its good to have a token prog NPC, if nothing else to laugh at and dunk on

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

        Harry does fellatio on other Dems commonly. He might even do it for Jeffy.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

          He was busted as a paid troll on YT.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

            I know. He and his type remind me of Squealer in Animal Farm.

        2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          I contend that it would take far too long to search Jeffy’s voluminous folds of fat to find it.

    4. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

      Parody.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        Thinking paid Act Blue now. This statement basically confirmed it. See Harry and Victor.

        1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          Maybe, but we frankly have some of these at work. They will reliably push out the standard MSNBC slop talking points almost verbatim when they bitch about trump.

          When it comes down to it the majority of the country are pretty uninformed and happy to just parrot what their algorithm tells them without much introspection. M4E might be one of those actblue folks, but also might just be a low IQ normie who lives in a blue bubble.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            M4E might be one of those actblue folks, but also might just be a low IQ normie who lives in a blue bubble.

            He's already power-leveled himself by stating he lives in Madison, so yeah.

        2. Super Scary   9 months ago

          "Thinking paid Act Blue now."

          Should I inform the FBI?

    5. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

      Trump’s interview with Rachel Maddow first

      She would be terrible. She is too nice.

      Progressives don't have the bloodless hearts that Cons have. They all suck for debate.

      Now I would be great. First quesiton:

      Donnie, by what MEASURE was your economy successful? It sure as hell wasn't the 1.6% GDP or the massive job losses.

      WHAT MEASURE?

      Donnie drools.....

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

        Just think... you could REALLY dunk on drumpf with your brilliant point about fast food loss leader promotions = cost of food going down!

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

          Here, why don't you try it, shit-for-brains?

          Donnie, by what MEASURE was your economy so successful?

          You can even use the goddamn internet!

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

            You could also slam him on being in Russia's back pocket by bringing up the time he was caught on hot-mic whispering about "greater flexibility after my election".

            You could follow up by challenging him on Putin's attacks on Ukraine in both 2014, and 2022, both of which occurred under his watch!

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

              That would require some degree of honesty on turd's part, and that is NOT going to happen.
              turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        What the hicklib pederast's actual question would be:

        "Donnie, why are you persecuting those poor Venezuelan child sex worker entrepreneurs with your threats to kill them? They're providing a valuable service for the community!"

      3. R Mac   9 months ago

        First question: Why are you here after you were banned for posting a link to kiddie porn?

        1. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

          Bushpigs gotta Bushpig

        2. Chumby   9 months ago

          He loves promoting former VP Cheney. He is essentially Dick’s mouthpiece.

  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'Absolutely wild panel on CNN'

    You misspelled "brain-washed".

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      It was really something to watch. Because you can see the knee jerk programming kicking in. The second they hear that information that their network has spent years either not covering or lying about is said, they all go into full on screaming panic mode. The desperation is on full display. I love how the dude is like "I mean, are you serious, this is very well known information"

      Some HGTV the wife had on show had some black victim whiner on the other day, and he spends almost every episode bitching about slavery or jim crow, and the dude unironically spends the one episode talking about how devastating the summer of 20 and 21 were for black america, and how this is clearly due to horrible systemic racism. Apparently it was lost on him that near 100% of the deaths were black on black homicide, and most of the damage destroyed neighborhoods that were majority black.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        I guess restoring burned-down buildings would play on HGTV.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

        End the war on drugs and that wouldn't happen.

        -sarcasmic

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          He really is a fucking Democrat idiot.

      3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        The irony is CNN has multiple articles on the Ferguson Effect.

        1. mad.casual   9 months ago

          Most important thing: I'll give you three guesses as to who the President was during the "Ferguson unrest".

    2. mad.casual   9 months ago

      It is wild though. They deny what he asserted as known fact and then attack what he didn't say predicated on the fact.

      "Violence skyrocketed after Ferguson and George Floyd."
      "What are you talking about?"
      "It's a thing."
      "I have no idea. The idea that George Floyd caused this is absurd. Why are you blaming the Biden Administration for it, Trump was in charge."

      Patently obvious, oxymoronic, and dishonest gaslighting for everyone to see. CNN is openly paying these black hosts to advocate a cover story and suppress the acts that damaged and destroyed black communities across the country. And this was the organization that 'reformed' itself previously because people were tuning out the disinformation.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        The center-right are parroting the same talking points, which is telling. As if they wouldn't be screeching like a scalded cat if Trump had actually done the reasonable thing in such a situation and employed the US military to stop the riots.

  30. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

    It is amazing how much Musk has gone from a darling of the Left 10 plus years ago, when he was known for making highly subsidized electric cars to an object of scorn because he took away their favorite toy, Twitter.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      I hear leftist are burning their Teslas in protest.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        To be fair, some Teslas burn themselves. Or was that a GM product?

      2. Ska   9 months ago

        Only after they've completed their moves to Canada.

      3. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

        May the leftists immolate themselves, and soon - before they vote!

    2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      the ultimate crime: wrong think

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

      Musk, Greenwald, Taibbi, and many others. Their crime? Defending free speech.

      Let’s be honest here, a sizable portion of what was “the left” are now full-on authoritarians, if not outright fascists.

      1. Bill Dalasio   9 months ago

        Pretty much anyone on the left who was an independent thinker, starting with the Obama administration and massively accelerating with the election of Donald Trump in 2016, was slowly given a choice - get with the program or be excommunicated. Now, you have a left that, literally in the space of two weeks, went from saying Joe Biden was the most qualified person to be the president for the next four years and Kamala Harris was a bit of an embarrassment to saying Biden is a doddering old man and Harris is the great hope of American democracy. And I do mean literally. Hell, they got so bad that Ana Kasparian (of the Young Turks) is having trouble repeating the party line with a straight face.

        Whatever one's opinion is of Donald Trump, he really has shaken up American politics in an interesting way. Contrary to the popular "cult" claim (he has some cultish followers, like any politician), he's increasingly pulling the non-cultists from the existing sides away from their previous alliances. In the end, that's probably a good thing for politics, even if it isn't necessarily pretty.

        1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          A realignment was overdue. Im not a fan of the man himself, but what I do know for sure: the other side is now a merger of the establishment totalitarian left, the fringe radical marxist left, and the center-right neocons. I dont know about you, but no amount of disliking Trump makes me look at the other side and not see it for the dangerous nightmare of a political party it has become.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            Im not a fan of the man himself, but what I do know for sure: the other side is now a merger of the establishment totalitarian left, the fringe radical marxist left, and the center-right neocons.

            For people that invoke Reagan like a religious saint, the latter probably don't see a bit of irony in aligning themselves in a "three-legged stool" with the people who were inspired by the same nation that Reagan wanted to take down.

  31. Sandra (formerly OBL)   9 months ago

    "On a fundamental level, Harris didn't really grapple with the question"

    Which is weird, because Nick Gillespie told me a majority of Americans agree with banal statements like "immigration is a good thing."

    You'd think Harris would celebrate every aspect of Biden's loose border policy and promise to continue it.

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      It was a great interview to see. A breath of fresh air seeing someone finally ask the follow ups that are essentially required of her normal nonsense answers.

      Truly a crash and burn for her, and not at a great time.

      And aside from her looking horrible with the facts that she was being pinned down on, her tone was god awful. She has this very indignant "how fucking dare you" anytime she gets the slightest bit of pushback, and the bitchy girlboss "excuse me, I was speaking" is extremely off-putting.

      She is the embodiment of that cunty middle manager everyone knows is shitty at the job but has an extremely inflated sense of entitlement and ego regardless.

      1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

        She should have been snapping a stapler.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK0-76FChfk

        1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          "If you werent such a bitch, we'd feel sorry for you"

          Ya, about sums it up

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        And aside from her looking horrible with the facts that she was being pinned down on, her tone was god awful. She has this very indignant “how fucking dare you” anytime she gets the slightest bit of pushback, and the bitchy girlboss “excuse me, I was speaking” is extremely off-putting.

        She had 90%-plus turnover on her staff for a reason, and the reason is that she's an entitled, pretentious cunt with no self-control and an unwarranted sense of self-regard.

        1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

          She wasn't destroyed in the interview, which for her is a victory.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

      “On a fundamental level, Harris didn’t really grapple with the question”

      They each have tactics for avoiding questions.

      Kammy tactic = filibuster, avoid direct answer, go vague.

      Fatass Donnie tactic = Lie, lie, attack the press, lie and then lie again.

      Odds today – toss-up

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Sure. And Trump's "lies" are judged only by the hostile, left-wing press, right?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

          THY’RE KILLING THE PETS! THEY’RE KILLING THE CATS AND DOGS!

          Fuck it. The Big Lie and Jan 6 prove him to be a traitor.

          Like bin Laden and General Robert E Lee - by attacking the US they are our enemy.

          As a Southerner I had some sympathy for the latter. But no more.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

            turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. R Mac   9 months ago

            Nobody buys your bullshit, pedo.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

        Your tactic is to lie, lie, and lie some more about how you managed to get your original account permabanned here. I seem to recall something about kiddy porn.

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

        The (sad) return of turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat. turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

          Aww, Sevo missed me.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

            Bring back Well-adjusted biden guy.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

              THAT GUY'S A FAG!

              spicoli

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

                I look forward to sarcjeff denouncing your homophobic comment.

                1. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

                  You know who else Jeff calls a fag?

              2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

                The TDS-addled turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!

              3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

                So basically, you just called yourself a fag.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

                  turd combines stupidity with his dishonesty.

          3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

            We were hoping you were being arraigned on charges of possession of CP.

    3. Rick James   9 months ago

      You’d think Harris would celebrate every aspect of Biden’s loose border policy and promise to continue it.

      Thank you for saying this, and I said it below before I read your comment (I swear). Suddenly every strategic and reluctant voter for Biden 1.0 and Biden 2.0 are nodding furiously at each other when Biden 2.0 says they did more to seal up the border and crack down on brown people invading the US than Trump ever could have dreamed of doing, and in fact, that Bleeding Heart Trump even stopped their immigrant pogrom because he doesn't care about America!

  32. Knutsack   9 months ago

    Is Sullum going to comment on the FBI's revised violent crime statistics?

    https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/us-news/fbi-quietly-revised-2022-crime-data-to-show-violent-offenses-rose-rather-than-dropped/

    And why would he trust those stats going forward?

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Should be asked daily until he does.

      JeffSarc has been avoiding it too.

    2. Super Scary   9 months ago

      The largest cope I have seen about this has been on Reddit, where all of a sudden they say “Well, that is from 2022, it’s 2024 you stupid chud!” without a single drop of irony as if they weren’t trying to use those same (false) statistics to say crime was down.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        Those false stats were even used as a "fact check" as recently as Trump's debate with Biden.

        1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          Man, the crew that screams about disinformation seems to be about 0/100 when it comes to correlation with reality.

          Orwell would be proud

          1. Bill Dalasio   9 months ago

            They'll believe what they're told to believe and stop believing it when they're told to believe differently.

    3. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

      even these stats are false as major cities like LA, new orleans, etc are no longer sharing violent crime states with the FBI

      1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

        "Downtown has half the shops boarded up and broken into, CVS has almost everything under lock and key, crime is clearly down because the govt says so"

        - dem voter

        1. mad.casual   9 months ago

          Even that is still dishonest and dysfunctional.

          “We went from self-declared zones of lawless autonomy to closed businesses and inexpensive household staples kept under lock and key… progress! Sure, they burned the place to the ground, but the people left to pick through the ashes were mostly peaceful!”

  33. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   9 months ago

    "Harris is also correct that Trump has repeatedly alluded to sinking immigration legislation"

    Prove he sank a bill about immigration. It gave 70 mil to Ukraine, 30 mil to Isreal, and 15 mil for border patrol to bring people in faster.

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      Ya, this needs to get pushed back on as its getting very annoying to hear so many times with no context.

      Even if he did sink it...it was a poison-pill bill written specifically so Harris (Biden before) could have this exact talking point. They tied it to insane funding bills, and included ridiculous provisions that clearly no sane person would agree to, and called it a border security bill. Trump should be given credit if he did sink it not only because it was politically expedient, but also because it was the right thing to do.

      1. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

        It's pissed me off how the Trump team DOESN'T push back on this and say what you said. At the Trump-Harris debate, the VP debate, interviews, etc. the Trump team just skips past it. Is the bullshit Harris talking point just so ineffective that the Trump team feels it can just skip past without refuting it, or is there some other reason?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      Yeah, one of the biggest lies of the revolutionaries lately has been that "Trump told the GOP to kill the bipartisan immigration bill, one of the best bills on this that's been produced in 40 years!", when the reality is that Trump didn't do shit, and the bill was killed on its merits.

      1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

        And what needs to be added, is that it was too little too late. When they had free reign with majorities, they made the choice to do nothing with congress and open the border through the executive.

        They already crashed and totaled the car, and are crying because we didn't let them "fix" it by slapping a coat of paint on the resultant junk heap

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          HR1 was passed on the House and never brought for a vote in the Senate. Is moderate Liz aware? Trump even supported it.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

          Relax, alright? My old man is a television repairman, he’s got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

  34. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

    Jonah Goldberg's political and cultural obtuseness continues to amaze, as does his ability to tell on himself:

    "The new conservatism, despite all of its Make America Great Again rhetorical pabalum, isn't about conserving--preserving--what is great about America, it's about replacing conservatism with a kind of right-wing statism."

    This is the sort of passive-voiced appeal to political disengagment that Goldberg and the rest of the neocon twats appealed to from the Reagan era forward. The kind of "I'm not corrupt enough to get involved in any kind of government organization" nonsense that resulted in the left brigading the nation's cultural and political institutions--which is why the Goldbergites get so agitated when the right puts in any more effort to resist the left that goes beyond snarking on the internet. The political ennui they encouraged on the right for decades, bolstered by appeals to glittering generalities, is exactly why they're homeless at the moment, if they haven't joined the Democrats already like the Cheneys and Bush-era GOPers.

    "Conserving" something requires effort, and the critical weakness of these people has always been the false belief that America as a particular concept was commonly assumed, and therefore didn't require defending, even after decades of the New Left and their intellectual descendants openly and gleefully subverting and tearing that down to the bedrock. The Goldbergites are deathly allergic to any effort that might require actually conserving something, which is why they never conserved jack shit during their time in charge.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Goldberg is part of the manufactured opposition.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Do you think Goldberg and Kevin Williamson hold hands?

        1. Dillinger   9 months ago

          I imagine KW is offended by the tactile sense of perpetual KFC grease

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

      Goldberg calls it "right-wing statism".

      Political scientists call it "Fascism".

      Fucking economy is on fire - grinding out new market highs, new private investment, record wealth creation and some Populist Con Man is telling all the dumb rednecks that only he can make America great again.

      That is why Donnie likes the uneducated. He grifts the white trash that make up his base.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Which political scientists? The ones who forgot (or never learned) the genesis of fascism?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

          Your uneducated ass doesn't belong in this conversation.

          At least Goldberg knew that fascism is right wing and called his book 'Liberal Fascism' as opposed to regular fascism.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

            You’re one to speak about being uneducated? I suggest you read up on Mussolini.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

            turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
            But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

          3. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

            Fascism is left-wing.
            Churchill was to the right of all these: Mussolini, Hitler, and Stalin.

          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            At least Goldberg knew that fascism is right wing

            Fascism wasn’t considered “right wing” until after Molotov-Ribbentrop was violated, and even at that, the left always considers any aggressive opposition to be “right wing,” “reactionary,” or “fascist,” as they call any opposition to the marxist revolution.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

          They conveniently “forgot” about the genesis of fascism as they were well aware it grew out of socialism and Marxism. It is yet another ugly branch of the tree of Hegel and Rousseau. They did it in part to create false space between fascism and communism.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

            +1

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        Goldberg calls it “right-wing statism”.
        Political scientists call it “Fascism”.

        Yes, anything which goes against the marxist revolution is "fascism." And Goldberg's tactic here is to try and play his ages-old "No True Conservative," er, "Scotsman" fallacy that he employs when he can't actually defend his faction's piss-poor record of conserving anything other than the left's salami-slicing and envelope-pushing.

    3. Bill Dalasio   9 months ago

      You have to understand where Jonah is coming from. Here he had this great gig going. He had a nice place in Georgetown, was pulling in bank between the National Review, AEI, and speaking engagements, and got to talk to all the right people. Sure, his friends might have raised a few eyebrows about a few of his claims, but he could write that off as red meat for the dentists in Peoria. Then this Trump guy comes along. And he's stealing all the National Review's audience. He's relegating AEI to the sidelines. He's pushing conservatives to take positions that his friends in Georgetown are going to consider beyond the pale. He's suggesting that maybe the Republican party ought to consider actually delivering for that dentist in Peoria. Even worse, even listening to and delivering for truck drivers from outside of Knoxville. What's a Good Conservative like Goldberg supposed to do? "That isn't who we are!" was always to keep the riff-raff from acting, not to stop action against them.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        , “That isn’t who we are!” was always to keep the riff-raff from acting, not to stop action against them.

        Precisely. Their MO for decades was to substitute being a smart-mouth for any kind of “conservative” policy, but not actually put any effort towards anything other than tax cuts, foreign wars, and open borders, which have always been their real principles. They’ve always considered the US to be a “concept” or “idea” rather than a real, actual nation with a real, actual culture and real, actual policies–a lot of them not very nice–that allowed that nation to become what it was in the first place over the 200-plus years of its existence, until they fully took over the GOP in 1989 and proceeded to prop up Reagan’s aging corpse as cover for their own self-serving political unctuousness.

        Boat-rockers got marginalized (Buchanan, Ron/Rand Paul), undermined (Gingrich, Tea Partiers) or thrown under the bus completely (Palin and, ironically, McCain, but mainly for having the gall to take on the Bush family, not for his political stances). And they STILL haven’t gained enough self-awareness to realize that Trump was the inevitable result of this long-standing failure to actually stand up to the left on anything of substance, even enabling it on a global scale with their WEF-style policies that harmed the very people that ultimately rejected them as leaders. Their complaint to this day is that Trump was picked at all, rather than face their failure to offer up a leader who wasn’t dismissive of the rank and file’s demands. And this sort of high-handed frippery and treating national politics like a debate club instead of the cage match that it actually is, is why they’re in the political wilderness now.They

        They've been a de-motivational force, culturally and domestically, for decades. All they have is words, and they constantly reveal that what terrifies them about Trump specifically, is that he might take action on anything outside of their limited policy shibboleths, and motivate GOP voters to do the same.

  35. Minadin   9 months ago

    Looks like the IDF took out Hamas's leader & architect of the October 7th massacre today:

    "Sinwar was declared Hamas' new political head in August following the assassination of Ismail Haniyeh.

    If he is indeed dead, killing the man accused of being the architect of the Oct. 7 terror attack would be a major coup for Israel and its war in the Gaza Strip."

    https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1846909440286486629

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Sinwar&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      Has anyone checked on JFree, truman, and Misek? I bet they has a big sad today

      1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

        Columbia, Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, Rutgers hardest hit.

        1. mad.casual   9 months ago

          Genocided even.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

        What about the Buttplug? I’ve been busy all week, Just got here today.

        You forgot my unique perspective here? Classic liberalism is the only way.

        Fuck progressives and fuck conservatives. They both suck.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

          Classic liberal, my ass, Turdzilla.

        3. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

          What about the Buttplug?

          Well, you are another Hamas sympathizer, so you do belong in the above-mentioned group. The main difference being, those 3 do it openly, while you lie about it.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

            Liar. No one hates Islamists more than I do.

            Israel needs to crush the life out of Hamas.

            Why do you Cons lie so brazenly?

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

              No one hates Islamists more than I do.

              Yeah… this is just something you pretend to, under this account. If this were really true, why were you pining to be grouped in with jewfree, misek, and misconstrueman above?

              Israel needs to crush the life out of Hamas.

              Fortunately, they seem to be doing so pretty successfully. Despite the obstacles put in their way by the Biden/Harris administration (who you shill for endlessly, under multiple socks).

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

              turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!

        4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          Classical liberals don't simp for Afam Schiff like you do.

        5. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

          How can a Bushpig claim to be a classical liberal?

    2. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

      Pending DNA testing.

      1. Minadin   9 months ago

        They've done initial DNA testing, and I saw the photos. The resemblance is very strong.

        (I don't necessarily recommend looking at the photos)

      2. Longtobefree   9 months ago

        Am I the only one wondering how Israel has DNA samples from all the terrorists?

        1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

          Sinwar was imprisoned in Israel for years = DNA sample

          1. mad.casual   9 months ago

            Also, once again, evidence can be both circumstantial and fairly, if not outright, conclusive. This is how a zero-knowledge protocol works.

            If a bomb goes off and the investigators find a hand and a foot that share maternal DNA with me, and no one turns up in a nearby hospital missing a hand and foot... nobody directly witnessed what happened but people can still *know* what happened.

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

            Yes, he was released as part of the Gilad Shalit swap over a decade ago. Do we need any more evidence that swaps like this are a bad idea?

            1. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

              We do not = Do we need any more evidence that swaps like this are a bad idea?

  36. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

    "California police struggle with 'unusable' Tesla patrol cars after going green"
    [...]
    "California Police departments are using electric Tesla patrol cars in a new green initiative - but complaints have emerged about the vehicles.
    The change comes after California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a law that all vehicles will be zero-emission by 2035 - and one police department, Irvine, bought a $150,000 Cybertruck.
    It has led to a few learning curve issues, like considerations about the need for the vehicle to charge while a criminal is in the back.
    The Menlo Park Police Department bought three Tesla Model Y cars for about $50,000 per vehicle, though police chief David Norris has said these are not the "patrol cars of the future."
    In a published city council report, Menlo authorities claim that officers "appreciated the acceleration, steering, and vehicle speed" but that there are issues offroading due to the autopilot safety not letting the police ride on curbs when needed..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/california-police-struggle-with-unusable-tesla-patrol-cars-after-going-green/ar-AA1sppw6?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b3620039b21146039ece9d24f6dd0644&ei=28

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

      Still waiting for all of the EVs exploding in the aftermath of Helene. Fortunately white hillbillys are too smart to buy them so damage should be minimal.

  37. Uncle Jay   9 months ago

    "Brett, let's just get to the point. Okay. The point is that we have a broken immigration system that needs to be repaired," responded Harris."

    ...and whose fault is that Little Miss Border Czar?

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      "You have to re-elect me to fix the problems that I directly caused"

      unironically, her campaign pitch

      this interview was a horrible idea for her

  38. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

    To focus on Elon Musk's politics is to exhibit a ridiculous monomania that, among other things, badly misunderstands the wages of genius. Musk is a weirdo, yes. Most visionaries are. It's the least important thing about them

    This conflates politics with personality.

    Yes, he's a bit of a weirdo. He likes posting joke memes and screenshots of his video games.

    His politics are perfectly sane and normal.

    1. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

      Musk is a Geek Squad member who hit it big and now has FU levels of wealth. His biggest faux pas has been wandering off the Progressive political plantation most of the rest of the tech giants live on.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   9 months ago

        Musk is a fucking Bernie-Bro.

        This new bromance will end badly. Donnie will fuck him somehow. See Guiliani, Rudy.

        1. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

          cope

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

          Every time that lying pile of lefty shit turd goes missing, I have hopes some parent caught the scumbag eyeing their kid, and the ripped his arm off and beat the asshole to death.
          FOAD, turd.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

            But he keeps coming back. Like herpes.

  39. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

    "...She could have offered an answer..."

    Not within her capabilities.

  40. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

    "What's behind the widening gender wage gap in the US?"
    Listening to bullshit from:
    "...Noreen Farrell, executive director of Equal Rights Advocates and chair of Equal Pay Today, a coalition of groups advocating for workplace gender equity..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/whats-behind-the-widening-gender-wage-gap/ar-AA1smF0e?ocid=BingNewsSerp

  41. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>Where do Lebanon's displaced people go to shelter?

    idk, the Marine Barracks?

  42. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>The roughly 25-minute segment was frequently contentious and revealing

    true, and we watched it on mute.

  43. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>To focus on Elon Musk's politics is to exhibit a ridiculous monomania

    plus we all saw Single White Female leave the guy alone

  44. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>Michigan's failed DEI experiment

    cheat at football, too.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

      Hail To The Victors.

  45. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>Yesterday, officials in Italy cracked down on seeking surrogacy abroad. It is already banned domestically.

    quia Caput Ecclesiae?

  46. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>Fox has its flaws—namely, its role in spreading stolen-election myths, which has resulted in a huge loss of credibility

    Paul Ryan making boardroom decisions didn’t help.

  47. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>Scenes from New York

    Shohei Ohtani hit a ball maybe 10 rows short of leaving Shea.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

      Dude’s a dinger machine.

  48. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

    Fox has its flaws—namely, its role in spreading stolen-election myths, which has resulted in a huge loss of credibility

    NPR has it's flaws, namely it's role is spreading "most secure election of all time" myths.

  49. DeAnnP   9 months ago

    Biden has tried to close border, was sued. The Lankford border bill should have been passed, but then Trump couldnt run on that if fixed. Himself over country, as usual. If he actually gave a fuck about the country he could have said, look this Bill doesnt go as far as I think it should but at least it will help until I get in and fix it. But NOOOOOOO, Someone is trying to stay out of jail, fuck everyone else.

    https://www.aclu.org/podcast/bidens-executive-order-new-asylum-ban-old-tactics

    https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-blocks-biden-asylum-ban

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      The Lankford border bill should have been passed, but then Trump couldnt run on that if fixed.

      LOL, right on cue:

      Yeah, one of the biggest lies of the revolutionaries lately has been that “Trump told the GOP to kill the bipartisan immigration bill, one of the best bills on this that’s been produced in 40 years!”, when the reality is that Trump didn’t do shit, and the bill was killed on its merits.

      You fuckheads are so predictable I can set my watch to you.

    2. Rick James   9 months ago

      Can we take this at 100% bleeding-out-in-a-parking-lot face value and then say that Biden is ‘anti-immigrant’ and then… and then strategically and reluctantly vote for a continuation of the Biden admin?

      Edit: I like it how people who screamed "kids in cages!" for four years are suddenly strident border hawks.

  50. Chumby   9 months ago

    Another apartment complex reportedly opens its doors to migrating people:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/venezuelan-prison-gang-seizes-four-apartment-buildings-texas

    1. Dillinger   9 months ago

      no te metas con Tejas.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      You're late, mister, I posted that in yesterday's HnR when Daily Fail broke the story. But I do appreciate the double-tap.

      Notably, these assholes were conducting child prostitution as well. But hey, it's only "a few buildings," just like Aurora, let's not blow this out of proportion!

      1. mad.casual   9 months ago

        Are we sure it was child prostitution and not just adult Australian sex workers recalling that they had their first kiss at age 13 or something?

      2. Rick James   9 months ago

        Did anyone bleed out in a parking lot?

  51. Rick James   9 months ago

    "The number of migrants coming through the Darien Gap increased by 51% in September as more Venezuelans crossed the treacherous jungle following Nicolas Maduro's disputed reelection," reports Bloomberg.

    Do we really want more election deniers in our country?

  52. Rick James   9 months ago

    This is weird. Violence doubled in many cities the day after civil unrest and the 3rd precinct was burnt by a mob in Minneapolis on May 28, 2020. I suppose we can debate causality, but to deny or be unaware of the reality? https://police1.com/george-floyd-protest/articles/man-sentenced-to-4-years-for-minneapolis-police-station-fire-nKd5RboPPFKRy53f/
    https://vox.com/22344713/murder-violent-crime-spike-surge-2020-covid-19-coronavirus

    I had to press a button and wait for an attendant at Safeway to get me laundry detergent in a locked cabinet-- and then walk it to the register for me yesterday, because Sullum has proven, repeatedly that crime is way... wayyyy...wuhhhuwayyy down!

    1. Dillinger   9 months ago

      there's always Texas ...

  53. Commenter_XY   9 months ago

    Just wanted to come back and say it is official: Sinwar is dead.

    Khamenei's days are numbered, as well as the leadership who are around him.

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

      It's been a tough month for misek, trueman, and jfree. Oh, and butplug; he complained about being left off a list of anit-semites earlier!

    2. Dillinger   9 months ago

      glory be. don't be a child-murdering rapist terrorist.

    3. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      Couldn't have happened to a bigger piece of human garbage.

      Best case scenario is Israel taking out Iran's developing nuke facilities and missiles, with our support but not military involvement. Radical islam is a cancer and these people dont even have a "quiet part" to say out loud, its just full throated endorsement of jihad on Israel and America. Fuck em. They need to be neutered, we should happily let Israel take out the trash.

  54. David Emami   9 months ago

    "My bad."

    America, where even a black woman can be a dumb blonde.

    Also, "dimwitted" applied to "Tiktokker" is usually redundant. It's the new Tumblr.

    1. Dillinger   9 months ago

      hey a fresh blonde joke well done.

  55. n00bdragon   9 months ago

    Feels a little gross to defend Kamala Harris in general, but asking a politician (any politician) for a number in the middle of an interview will never ever get you an answer. If you ever do get an answer, you can be guaranteed the questions are rehearsed. The reason for this is simple: If you answer and you aren't exactly right, you'll get eaten alive. Sometimes even if you do answer with a correct answer by one measurement, you can still be roasted for not giving a different answer based on a different measurement. It's the ultimate gotcha technique. Roasting the pol for not falling for the gotcha seems almost dishonest.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      Or, just say, "I'm not sure of the number right this second, Bret, but I'll be happy to concede that yes, the number is high, and to explain how I'm aware of how we could have handled this better in hindsight. This is how I'm planning to address that when I become President."

      A politician who's better at thinking on their feet could come up with something similar.

  56. Think It Through   9 months ago

    You mean hyper-focusing on race and other unimportant characteristics leads to division and Balkanization and hostility?

    This is my shocked face.

  57. B G   9 months ago

    "A non-answer answer"

    Should be the Harris-Waltz campaign slogan.

    Even the questions that her campaign forces an interviewer to ask get nothing but scripted platitudes crafted to fill time while signifying nothing at all.

    The cherry on top is that California enacted a special excise tax on ammo just when it's looking like the most sensible time to stock up.

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