We Were Wrong To Panic About Secondhand Smoke
A recent American Cancer Society study reports a negligible risk from passive smoking, shedding new light on the uproar over a 2003 paper.

In 2003, UCLA epidemiologist James Enstrom and I published a study of environmental tobacco smoke (ETS)—also called "secondhand smoke" or "passive smoking"—in the British Medical Journal (BMJ). Using data from the American Cancer Society's prospective study of 1 million adults, we concluded that ETS exposure was not associated with increased mortality.
Since that conclusion flew in the face of the conventional wisdom that had long driven state and local bans on smoking in public places, our study understandably sparked a controversy in the public health community. But the intensity of the attack on us in the pages of a medical journal—by critics who were certain that our study had to be wrong but typically failed to provide specific evidence of fatal errors—vividly illustrates what can happen when policy preferences that have taken on the status of doctrine override rational scientific debate.
A recent study by American Cancer Society (ACS) researchers underscores that point by showing that, contrary to what our critics asserted, the cancer risk posed by ETS is likely negligible. The authors present that striking result without remarking on it, which may reflect their reluctance to revisit a debate that anti-smoking activists and public health officials wrongly view as long settled.
Exposure to ETS is known to cause eye and throat irritation and to exacerbate preexisting respiratory conditions. In addition, it is simply disagreeable to many people (including me). But assessing the claim that ETS is potentially deadly requires dispassionate examination of the available scientific evidence.
That is not what Enstrom and I encountered when we published our BMJ paper. Critics were outraged by the article and demanded its retraction. But they were never able to satisfactorily explain why such an extreme step was justified.
Our Study
We addressed the main criticisms of our paper in a detailed authors' response. The journal's editor in chief defended the decision to publish the paper, enumerating its strengths and stating that failure to publish high-quality work distorts the scientific record. If anyone had found evidence of fraud or even serious errors in the paper, as some alleged, it would have been retracted. No one found any such fatal flaws.
Because we were aware of the difficulties in measuring secondhand smoke exposure, we went to great lengths to obtain fine-grained information from the California participants in the original ACS study of 1 million Americans, which was launched in 1959. We recontacted surviving members of the cohort and asked them additional questions about their exposure to cigarette smoke. Using data from multiple contacts with subjects, we were able to improve the quality of exposure information, which is the Achilles heel of most ETS studies. As a result of these measures, exposure information was more detailed and more reliable than in many previous studies.
To put the risk from secondhand smoke in perspective, we examined the association of active smoking with mortality from lung cancer, coronary heart disease, and chronic obstructive lung disease. We demonstrated dose-related associations of smoking with mortality in all three categories. This was true even for "light" smokers—people who smoked fewer than 10 cigarettes per day. That finding was important because it showed that our study was able to pick up the relatively small effect of light smoking.
The fact that we demonstrated a strong association between active smoking and mortality, which increased in a graded fashion with increasing levels of smoking in both men and women, provided consistent and impressive support for the effects of active smoking. In contrast, our results for ETS exposure showed no significant association with mortality.
The response to our paper was largely political. This was evident from the fact that the ACS attacked the paper during the two-day embargo period, before it went online. The clear intent was to delegitimize the study in the court of public opinion. This initial attack invited others to pile on, alleging flaws in our methods. But as the BMJ's editors pointed out, those charges generally were not backed by any reference to actual data from the paper.
The head epidemiologist at the ACS condemned our paper as tobacco industry "disinformation," and other tobacco control activists went even further, citing our paper in a federal racketeering case against cigarette companies. They alleged that the paper was part of a tobacco industry conspiracy to discredit scientific evidence concerning the hazards of smoking. This use of lawfare rather than open scientific debate seemed designed to have a chilling effect on researchers studying passive smoking, discouraging them from reporting politically inconvenient results.
The organizers of this attack felt it necessary to portray us as corrupt agents of the tobacco industry, even though we had long track records researching the effects of smoking and other questions in public health. Our paper included a 200-word declaration stating that the tobacco industry had no involvement with the paper.
This is not the way scientific papers typically are reviewed by "experts in the field." We thought we were publishing a scientifically straightforward, even boring, paper that presented a well-supported case. In our long careers publishing on a wide variety of topics in epidemiology, we had never run into anything like the uproar created by our BMJ article.
Despite vigorous defenses of the paper, its status became ambiguous. On one hand, it had been publicly trashed. On the other hand, it had been published in a leading medical journal and was cited in the medical literature together with other studies that showed similarly weak and uncertain results concerning the effects of passive smoking.
The New ACS Study
The new paper from the American Cancer Society, published last April in CA: A Cancer Journal for Clinicians, comes 21 years after the brouhaha over our BMJ paper and sheds further light on the controversy. This major ACS paper aims to further reduce the incidence of cancer by providing data that can be used to improve policies and practices.
Based on U.S. risk factor data from 2014, the paper estimates the number and proportion of cancers attributable to potentially modifiable factors that the authors deemed, based on the literature, to be significantly associated with cancer risk. Cigarette smoking is by far the leading risk factor, accounting for 20 percent of all cancers and 30 percent of cancer deaths. (See Figure 4, bottom panel: both sexes combined.) The next strongest, but far weaker, risk factor is excessive body weight, followed by alcohol consumption, physical inactivity, low fruit/vegetable intake, UV radiation, HPV infection, processed meat consumption, HCV infection, H. pylori infection, low dietary fiber, and secondhand smoke, which ranks 12th.
The "population-attributable fraction" (PAF)—that is, the share of cancer deaths that could be prevented if a given risk factor were removed—is 28.5 percent for cigarette smoking and 0.7 percent for secondhand smoke—a 41-fold difference. Although the PAF for secondhand smoke is statistically significant, the magnitude of the risk is negligible and similar to the risk estimate in our BMJ paper.

A relative risk of 1.0 denotes "no increased risk." In our study, the lung cancer risk for never-smokers married to ever-smokers, compared to the risk for never-smokers married to never-smokers, was 0.75, and the difference was not statistically significant, indicating no elevated risk from ETS exposure.
Having put the cancer risk from secondhand smoke in the proper perspective relative to the risk from smoking, the CA study combines the two exposures to obtain the total number of cancer cases and cancer deaths attributable to "tobacco smoking." The reasoning here is that if smoking were eliminated, secondhand smoke exposure also would be eliminated. But it's notable that cancer deaths attributed to ETS account for just 2 percent of the total.

The CA paper, which used survey data regarding health behaviors and national statistics on cancer incidence and cancer death rates, took a different approach from our BMJ paper, which used a prospective study of a defined population. The results of the two studies nevertheless are strikingly similar. In both studies, we see a strong risk of fatal disease associated with smoking, in contrast with a small-to-negligible risk associated with exposure to secondhand smoke.
The CA study was limited to cancer. But our results regarding ETS and coronary heart disease were particularly important, because heart disease is much more common than lung cancer and accounts for more smoking-related deaths. As we showed in our analysis, the risk of heart disease death among smokers is markedly smaller than the risk of lung cancer death. We nevertheless observed statistically significant, dose-related increases in heart disease mortality among male and female smokers. In contrast, the relative risk associated with ETS exposure was 0.94—which, again, was statistically indistinguishable from a relative risk of 1.0, indicating no increased risk.
Understanding Small and Uncertain Risks
Humans are not good at conceptualizing the very large or the very small. Think of the billions of galaxies composed of trillions of stars or the size of an atomic nucleus. When it comes to evaluating potential hazards like passive smoking, we need to realize just how small and uncertain the risk suggested by these two studies is, which is consistent with the risk found by all studies of the question.
What do I mean by a "small-to-negligible risk"? Meta-analyses combining studies of secondhand smoke exposure and risk of lung cancer in people who never smoked have reported increases in different population groups: 24 percent in studies from the U.S., Europe, and Asia; 21 percent for Western industrialized countries; and 15 percent in studies restricted to North America. Such increases are very small in epidemiology. For comparison, the elevated risk of lung cancer among current smokers is on the order of 1,000 percent, while the risk increase for heavy smokers is around 3,000 percent.
When we are dealing with risks of this very small magnitude and exposure information of uncertain quality, we cannot rule out confounding or bias even in the best epidemiologic studies. And given the likelihood of publication bias, which favors positive results, the cancer risk from passive smoking may in fact be zero.
Although the borderline results of epidemiologic studies linking secondhand smoke exposure to increased risk of lung cancer have been interpreted as providing definitive evidence of an association, more rigorous studies have received much less attention. Two careful studies carried out in the 1990s—one in the U.S. conducted at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory, the other in the U.K. by Covance Laboratories—measured actual ETS exposure of nonsmoking subjects at home and at work.
In these studies, participants wore monitors that took samples of the air in the subject's "breathing zone" over a 24-hour period. One monitor was used during daytime activities, and a second monitor was placed by the bed during sleep hours. For people living with a smoker, the home was the greatest source of ETS exposure. The average dose of particulate matter inhaled by a nonsmoker exposed to other people's cigarette smoke was equivalent to smoking about eight to 10 cigarettes per year. By comparison, the intake of the average pack-a-day cigarette smoker is 7,300 cigarettes per year—about three orders of magnitude greater.
It is striking that these careful measurement studies are rarely cited in the epidemiologic literature on ETS, presumably because doing so would weaken the case that ETS poses a major threat. Yet studies that directly measure ETS exposure represent a higher order of evidence than epidemiologic studies, avoiding the pitfalls of examining the association between an exposure proxy and a clinical outcome (e.g., lung cancer). In the latter situation, there is a danger that researchers, believing their hypothesis and aware of the consensus on ETS, will select results from their data that support an association, choosing among different comparisons based on different measures of exposure.
Researchers could, for example, simply compare exposed vs. nonexposed groups, or they could take into account the number of family members who smoked, years of marriage to a smoker, or the level of a spouse's smoking. In deciding which results to present, researchers understand that a study finding an association is more likely to be published than a study finding no association. In a study that directly measures ETS exposure, this kind of confirmation bias is less likely.
Overlooked Weaknesses
Looking at the passive smoking story from 30,000 feet, we can see that scientists reported these very small risk estimates as grounds for mortal fear. In their eagerness to publicize their findings, researchers did not examine the weak data on ETS in light of the basic methodological considerations they teach their graduate students, such as the distinction between correlation and causation, possible misclassification of exposure, confounding variables, publication bias, and other potential biases. The news media, public health authorities, and the scientific community all followed suit, deeming the evidence strong. Anyone who questioned this dogma was branded a shill of the tobacco industry.
In my 2008 book Hyping Health Risks, I explored this kind of distortion and exaggeration of uncertain or very small risks, a phenomenon that manifested itself in connection with a wide variety of potential health hazards. To guard against that tendency, it is important to compare the magnitude of a novel risk to that of other risks we know more about. In the case of secondhand smoke, it was crucial to compare the small and uncertain effects of ETS exposure to the more substantial and better studied risks associated with smoking.
When you do that, you can see that our risk estimates were not out of line with those of other studies, notwithstanding the emotionally charged and politically fueled reaction to our paper. We had merely interpreted our results—and the totality of results on this question—as implying that the risk of fatal disease from secondhand smoke exposure "may be considerably weaker than generally believed."
For the scientific enterprise to succeed, unpopular findings must be discussed objectively, rather than dismissed summarily as obviously wrong. Leveling ad hominem attacks at researchers for alleged pro-industry bias is no substitute for a rigorous and fair-minded analysis of the data.
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Probably the gas stoves right?
The Volokh side right now has a very timely report on "epistemic authorities".
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/10/16/journal-of-free-speech-law-free-speech-on-the-internet-the-crisis-of-epistemic-authority-by-brian-leiter/
The usual crowd hasn't waded in yet, but it will surely be a hot time in the old town soon.
That was an unimpressive guest article written by someone who has some deep misunderstandings about the Scientific Method.
Future sciencey articles about what we were wrong about, slated for 2036:
We were wrong about being wrong. Two wrongs make a wright.
JD Vance is wrong about our being wrong about being wrong?
It’s wrongception!
But what's his stance on two wrongs?
WRONG!
Dude, it's 2024. We correct the jobs numbers and crime numbers and COVID numbers and the number of kids we're transitioning and anything else conservatives might be morally panicking over, like, "two weeks" later now.
It may not kill you, but damn, it stinks worse than shit or a skunk.
You have clearly never had a skunk go off under your house.
If we're sure we're all talking about the same kind of smoke here, he sounds like a 4 yr. old pronouncing their hatred of broccoli.
There are far worse smoke smells than tobacco and campfires, woodburning stoves, burning leaves in the fall, and grilling virtually any time of year are all good-smelling smokes. I absolutely get that too much of any of them is literally smothering and I can understand having a personal distaste for a specific smell but, like with broccoli, like with beer, etc., "This smells worse than shit." feels more like childish footstamping rather than objective assessment.
Personally, the stink of smug self-righteousness and/or expectation not to be offended in any way anywhere is worse.
Yes.
^THIS. Why such BS exists.
People who think the whole world needs to bend to their whims.
Even when they have absolutely ZERO business in the matter.
"Well no. I don't own or ever go to Joe's bar 'but, but, but' those people should still have to bend to my every whim."
I’m certainly not missing it. And I have little sympathy for smokers. About 80% of the, have always been cavalier assholes about their ‘habit’. Blowing their smoke where they shouldn’t, treating the whole world like an ashtray, and really fun things like tossing their hot cigarette butt out the window on the highway, so it lights up like fireworks on my windshield when I’m behind them.
I can’t help but think that if smokers had greatly curbed that kind of behavior, there wouldn’t hav enemy so much public support for smoking bans.
New Study shows most people who smoke ash their cigarettes on other people’s heads and blow smoke in their faces while targeting their coals at cars…. /s
The only thing you’re doing is shoveling excuses for your biases.
Exactly how/why the BS “The Science” indoctrination was bought by so many sheeple minds.
The amount of "chicken pecking" (bird-brain) mentalities in humans will never cease to amaze me. It would be nice if they'd find a honorable purpose in life beyond looking for another group to tear down.
It's OK, nobody cares about the health aspect anymore. It's all about punishing people who use tobacco.
Exactly. That's all it ever was about. Secondhand smoke was just an easy way to delegitimize anyone who smokes...thereby delegitimizing smoking. And I would be willing to bet there was a shitload of grant money funding easily available to anyone that would tow the line (similar to climate research).
I'd say: not so much about punishing tobacco users as punishing Greedy Tobacco Corporations; and about compelling places of public accommodation to ban smoking, for the greater comfort of the non-smokers promoting the bans.
And "use tobacco" is the right phrasing—the state college in my hometown has signs announcing that all forms of tobacco use are forbidden on campus, including snuff and chewing tobacco, which certainly don't present the secondhand-smoke issue. Unless, of course, you unthinkingly pick up and chug the contents of someone's spit-cup...
Your issue is never the issue. Their issue is never the issue. Their issue is to distract you from their need for more power or control.
If you look at California "health" policies, it seems more like it's about punishing "big tobacco" for not donating enough cash to the party that's been actively trying to put them out of business for 30-40 years.
What other explanation could there be for the banning of Juul and other tobacco-derived nicotine "vape" products which were invented to eliminate the issue of second-hand smoke, and which had proven to be possibly the single most effective tool to get people off of tobacco smoking ever devised?
More testing needed!
I strongly suspect this is because a phone call went out from the very self same people who for years claimed 2nd hand tobacco smoke was an existential threat to the metaphysical fabric of human existence turned around and claimed that 2nd hand fentanyl smoke is 100% safe and effective, with no downsides, and someone on the call said, "uh..."
It's easier to quietly retract the tobacco smoke claims 20 years ago in a wonky 3000 word thinkpiece than it is to clean up your streets of a problem you caused.
JD Vance was also wrong about secondhand smoke.
What about second hand marijuana smoke?
100% safe and effective with no downsides?
No wonder the ACS was pissed at your paper. You are jeopardizing the anti-smoking industry. Yes. It is an industry.
Indeed. +1000000. Yet another Gov-Gun THEFT industry.
I've always wondered how many useless and harassing THEFT industries would just disappear once the THEFT was made illegal (US Constitution was enforced). Funny how D.C. is the richest area in the US yet D.C. doesn't produce anything they just have a massive monopoly of 'Guns'.
I've been re-reading Eric Frank Russell recently, and Sinister Barrier, from either 1939 or 1948, begins Chaper 8 thusly:
From 66 or 77 years before!
“We” didn’t do shit. Libertarians thought restaurant and bar owners should have decided if they wanted to ban smoking.
If the person in the restaurant booth next to you is smoking a fag, it won’t kill you.
But the issue wasn't about you as a customer but rather the employee, the wait staff, exposed to long periods of secondhand smoke. Or the person sharing an office with a smoker. Look people still have every right to smoke. What they no longer have is the right to subject other people to their smoke.
I do not care if it is cancerous or not. It is a nasty habit. Your exhalations of foul-smelling particulates that land on my person and in my hair are just not tolerable in public.
Maybe you should be banned from driving. Raising all those nasty smells off the roads and your tires. You don't need to go joy-riding; your just making the public intolerable for the rest of us.
The only think surpassing your selfishness is your arrogance.
The selfishness displayed is that by the person who is exhaling foul smelling particulates that land on other people. Not the people who object.
I object to your exhaling foul arrogant BS comment full of selfish stench.
I’m the one objecting to your very existence and habits so I’m not selfish UR. /s
Like I said; The only thing surpassing your selfishness is your arrogance.
You're wearing a mask right now aren't you?
Sure, if it can stop covid, it can stop those big, bad smoke particles.
If exhalation of foul-smelling particulates that land on people is the criteria for banning, we’re going to have to ban public transportation like four times over.
So, walk away. Just that simple.
What if your wait staff, a bartender, or your officemates smokes. Why do I have to walk away when the smoker can just go outside and smoke.
Is the one smoking an owner or smoking under owner approval?
In as much sense as smokers can walk into someone else's place of business and demand a right-to-smoke.
...is the same sense as customers walking into someone else's place of business and demanding they don't have to put up with it.
If we are talking about workplace safety, then the owner's position is irrelevant because there are workplace safety rules. Owners are not allowed to emit as much benzene, toluene, etc. into the workplace air as they chose, these are regulated. The same is true for cigarette smoke, which by the way does contain benzene.
Next Up; Workplace safety regulations for farting?
The amount of benzene in cigarette smoke is farther away from hazardous than the amount of CO2 being released by human farts.
Why can’t you just go outside to do that?
Or maybe people can stop being such self-entitled arrogant pricks and stop using Gov-Guns to make BS excuses to dictate other people’s EARNED property to their every psychotic whim.
So does that also debunk the third-hand smoke Karens?
From the Mayo clinic
And the lung association.
The only effective treatment
sfor Thirdhand smokeareis having a Catholic Priest perform an exorcismor having FEMA declare the area a superfund site.Since when have we correlated public policy with science? Did this fellow sleep through the Covid hysteria, the ongoing global warming hoaxterism, or the continuing black hole, white elephant public transit mania? Next thing you know, the government will be handing out subsidies for phlogiston production.
I'm handing out bubble gum cigars this Halloween. What I want to know is, is this a first or second degree federal felony under current law?
It’s a lesser offense than candy cigarettes.
Bubble gum jays are perfectly acceptable, even encouraged these days.
Pretty sure it's first degree, I shoved needles in all of them at the candy factory.
Can you still get those bubblegum cigarettes where you could blow some corn starch or whatever out the end to look like smoke?
What do we do if a scientific study finds that second hand flatulence causes cancer?
Read the "Osteen Decision".
Pretty sure that *amount* and *duration* of second hand smoke inhalation need to be accounted for. Back in the day it wasn't unusual to be a kid trapped in between several chainsmoking adults in the corner of one of those booths at a diner with poor ventilation.
Well, mein behindert Dr., maybe read the methodology where it says things like "self reported exposure", "Exposed 40+ years to a smoking spouse as of 1999", "Married to a smoker of 40+ cigarettes per day as of 1959" quietly and let people think you may actually be a doctor rather than open your mouth and prove that you're actually just retarded.
The 'inhalation' of second-hand anything is a micro-concern of the direct 'inhalation' or is common-sense just a pointless luxury these days?
"We" were wrong to panic? In the bars I frequented there was no panic. In fact, smokers and non smokers alike were quite content with the ambiance. Plus, there were clearly marked exit signs over the doors for Mencken puritans to escape their perceived purgatory.
What makes you think that nonsmokers were content? We were simply expected to live with the fact. You know that the smoker could just go outside and smoke and then come back in.
Like everyone else has to live with the fact that you fart?
Oh the horrors of life.... There's not much in the world that can match the whining cry-babies of tiny-trails of smoke. Heaven forbid any of them go camping with a camp fire. Their whole existence might collapse.
While I certainly remember the scolds about smoking using second hand smoke as a way to, well, scold, the data at the time always seemed soft. As the article states, incidental exposure estimates are difficult for second hand smoke as they are for any environmental toxin. Which is why studies that can define and qualify overall dose exposure escalations are the gold standard. Nonetheless the overall tenor of the scolding at that time was to get folks to give up or at least not take up smoking. It is a devastating habit. A Libertarian would say that its my habit and you have no business telling me what to do with my lungs. True but you are welcome to kill your lungs in private. So the public welfare and space accommodations for non-smokers were rolled out. Frankly no other justification is needed other than to say your smoke is a nuisance to my and other peoples use and enjoyment of a public space. While the observation that smokers and non-smokers would sit in the same bar seems counter to that argument, consider the counter factual. How many non-smokers would visit those public spaces if there were no smoke? Inevitably libertarian thought never consider that point. The freedom to smoke at will trumps the freedom to be free of smoke. Go elsewhere the smokers say. I would say to smokers, go elsewhere yourself. You are free to smoke, just don't bother me with the habit. Which is essentially what public smoking bans proscribe. It is a greater good question. John Stuart Mills and Jeremy Bentham would approve of that outcome, no second hand smoke required.
Frankly no other justification is needed other than to say your smoke is a nuisance to my and other peoples use and enjoyment of a public space.
Pretty much everything you do is a nuisance to my and other people use and enjoyment of public spaces.
You aren't a libertarian, you're rather overtly using a false "right to freedom of offense" to claim property that isn't yours, breezing right past actual public spaces to claim your divine right to a seat at someone else's bar unoffended.
Your offensive emanations are far more toxic and cancerous than cigarette smoke could ever be. FOAD, retard.
I want my damn lounges and bars back!!!!!!!!
Hey, bronchitis, asthma, COPD, and anaphylactic shock may be life-ending events, but at least they aren't cancer!
You're awful loud for someone who developed and then died of secondhand asthma or anaphylactic shock. The level of retardation to brain development is about the same though.
ngl, as a former smoker, the thing I miss least about smoking and being around smokers is the stink of my laundry hamper. It got so bad that I actually went full on smoking jacket, just for the times I'd smoke in the privacy of my own home (well, outside; never indoors). Nowadays, if I've been out and around a smoking crowd (tobacco or otherwise), the moment I get home the clothes go straight into the washer and I the shower.
Because that stink permeates. I don't mind the smell of tobacco as it's being smoked (all you weed smokers can go straight to hell though), but I don't want my clothes or my skin or my hair saturated with it when I get into bed. Because that's gross. And in fairness, that's not really a second-hand smoke thing, unless you're around a LOT of it at once - but still.
The health arguments were always 100% BS though.
And in fairness, that’s not really a second-hand smoke thing, unless you’re around a LOT of it at once – but still.
I would add that there's a distinct element of privilege here. There are far worse things to be steeped in for 8 hours every day and to come home persistently reeking from.
Personally, there is/was always a frequent and hefty dose of placebo effect also. Placebo effect that I see carried, or attempted, over to vaping.
People (e.g.) who would similarly rant about "it permeates everything" sitting in work vehicles, shoes covered in shit, smelling their coffee, apparently unaware that the smell of their fresh coffee, shoes, and cigarette smoke (from the smokers normally occupying the vehicle) is equally detectable and/or detestable. Or people trying to get offended by the smell when they see someone they've been sitting around for an hour take a hit off a vape.
As indicated above, I readily tolerate the smell of coffee and cigarettes and even shit and diesel fuel. I understand that shitty coffee and certain components of cigarettes or just the total volume of any actually do stink, but there is/was still a rather overt amount of selective or deliberate striving to take offense.
I would add that there’s a distinct element of privilege here.
I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
As a long time ex-smoker (almost twenty years now, time for a pin), it's clear that second hand smoke was always bullshit. It was an excuse for prohibitionists to curtail and restrict where people could smoke. It got to the point that in my city it's illegal to smoke in one's own home if it's a multi-unit building. In other words, your apartment or condominium or duplex. Because someone might smell your smoke and get cancer. Meanwhile smoking a phat philly is perfectly legal because it's not tobacco.
Granted, the danger of second hand smoke is real, but it's extremely small, and limited to constant exposure. Like the spouses of smokers. And possibly bar workers. But the latter should not be a matter for legislators, but for insurance to take care of. No need to get the heavy handed boot [sic] of government involved.
It's not just second hand smoke, the puritans are obsessed with people not enjoying themselves, hence the meme that half a glass of wine while pregnant will destroy your future child's life. It's ridiculous.
I knew something was fishy when the data from active smoking at different doses projected to 0 effect well above what ETS exposure would produce. Defenders claimed there really was a biphasic dose reponse, such that those minuscule amounts of smoke were worse than larger amounts inhaled directly.
These are just the first attempts to head off complaints about the smell and effects of pot smoke.
While most of Kabat's book is excellent, he's been dead wrong about the many different health risks imposed by second hand smoke exposure. Just because the risks of lung cancer are very small, second hand smoke (like most toxic poisons) is not healthy to inhale (as Kabat has falsely insinuated since his study was published decades ago.
As one who successfully campaigned since 1981 to ban smoking in indoor workplaces, I can assure Mr. Kabat and Reason readers that >90% of Americans now support smokefree workplace laws, and virtually nobody (even smokers) now wants to be exposed to secondhand smoke in public places.
As one who successfully campaigned since 1981 to ban smoking in indoor workplaces, I can assure Mr. Kabat and Reason readers that >90% of Americans now support smokefree workplace laws, and virtually nobody (even smokers) now wants to be exposed to secondhand smoke in public places.
So what you are saying is that the ends justified the means? How deliciously Machiavellian of you!
So what about all those waitresses who got lung diseases from effectively “hot boxing” by working in smoky lounges, bars, bowling alleys, and cigar rooms for 8 hour or longer shifts … even though they never themselves smoked ?
Don't be a waitress if you really want to believe such foolishness.
The epidemiology study-standards of being statistically significant wasn't met. (i.e. The evidence couldn't even make a 'probably' conclusion). And that study was done on tight-enclosure airplane 'waitresses'.
And from the ACA homepage, where this article was posted.
https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/tobacco/health-risks-of-tobacco/secondhand-smoke.html
It didn’t meet standards of significance.
It really doesn’t matter how advertised or cherry-picked it is.
It is a BOGUS study by every standard of epidemiology studies.
It's the very difference between "The Science" indoctrination and real science. As-if anyone without a BS selfish agenda didn't already know that smoke from a toothpick isn't a BIG concern worth worrying about. The amount of cognitive dishonesty it would take to even tout such ridiculous dishonesty is obvious.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3701027/
LMFAO.. People working in smoking bars had micro-grams more nicotine in their hair than non-smoking bars … therefore … more BANS needed.
Never-mind nicotine isn’t a carcinogenic. Heck; it might be a shampoo for hair.
Studies like these really confirm the statement "It's all just BS-propaganda".