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Hurricanes

Floridaposting

Plus: Kamala's Florida possibility, Columbia's Hamas sympathizers, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.10.2024 9:30 AM

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Hurricane Milton | Joaquin Hernandez / Xinhua News Agency/Newscom
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Three million Americans without power this morning: Hurricane Milton made landfall overnight close to Siesta Key, Florida, as a Category 3 storm with maximum wind speeds of 120 mph.

Fatalities have already been reported due to tornadoes that formed as a result of the storm. The hurricane has now weakened to a Category 1, but millions are without power this morning with plenty of property damaged sustained. Milton will now be making its way toward Florida's east coast, but flash flood and storm surge warnings remain in effect for large parts of the state.

So far, the storm has destroyed the roof of a stadium in St. Petersburg, where emergency workers were sheltering, and flooded Tampa's Hillsborough River, but it's looking like the worst of the storm narrowly missed Tampa, thus sparing it even worse storm surges.

Why are these hurricanes so destructive? Many environmentalists will tell you that storms like Helene and Milton are getting more frequent; climate skeptics, meanwhile, will point to this year's storm season and rightfully note that we haven't seen a huge spike in frequency of hurricanes over the last few years. But arguing over that specific point alone would probably be wrong, because climate change is affecting several different factors. For example, "global heating made both of these storms more powerful than they had to be," writes Mark Gongloff for Bloomberg:

"On the morning before Milton's landfall, the research group World Weather Attribution released a report estimating climate change had made the sea surface temperatures fueling Helene 200 to 500 times more likely. The extra energy provided by this heat jacked up wind speeds and the rainfall that flooded supposed climate havens in the Appalachian Mountains hundreds of miles from shore.…[Milton] passed through hot Gulf water, which helped intensify it from a mere tropical storm to a Category 5 behemoth in less than 48 hours, one of the fastest cases of rapid intensification on record. It hasn't been alone this season; both Helene and Beryl, which hammered the Caribbean, Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and Texas in early July, also strengthened quickly because of freakishly warm sea water."

"Climate change may not cause hurricanes, but when they do form, it tends to turn them into blockbusters," concludes Gongloff. "That means anyone in the potential path of a hurricane—which can extend hundreds of miles from shore, as Helene taught us—needs to be prepared for the worst."

Of course, the thing a lot of global warming types won't say is that this has implications for whether we rebuild, and how. Some of the reason why there's so much catastrophic destruction from these types of weather events is because we build in places we shouldn't, and insurers don't properly price risk into the equation (or are prevented from charging the full amount by the government).

Consider the National Flood Insurance Program, which is managed by FEMA, and created in the 1960s so that homeowners in risky areas can reasonably pay for insurance. "Federal law requires that mortgaged properties in designated flood hazard areas carry flood insurance, but insurance premiums in oft-flooded areas are significantly more expensive (if they're even offered at all)," writes Reason's Joe Lancaster. "The NFIP offers federal backing for policies that private insurers would not otherwise touch or that would be too expensive for most people to afford." And it's not like this policy covers just a few people; some 5 million people are the beneficiaries of this federal backing. California, meanwhile, has regulations on the books that attempt to prevent insurers from accurately pricing wildfire risk, which has resulted in insurers like State Farm fleeing.

Even more Florida: "[Donald] Trump winning every swing state but Arizona?" asks polling analyst Nate Silver. "Surprising. [Kamala] Harris losing Pennsylvania and Michigan but winning Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina? Really surprising. But what about Harris winning Florida?"

"Florida hasn't really been on our radar, and for good reason. The once quintessential swing state just isn't anymore. Donald Trump won the state in 2016 and doubled his margin of victory in 2020, Republicans have supermajorities in both state legislative chambers, and the state hasn't elected a Democratic senator since 2012. Does Florida's rightward shift make the state a lost cause for Harris that isn't worth an investment of her campaign's limited resources? As usual, it's not that simple."

The full piece is useful if you're interested in gaming out a scenario—not likely, but certainly possible—in which Harris wins Florida's 30 electoral votes.

Perhaps this specific one is far-fetched, but Harris' performance late in the season (and cringey media blitz) has been shockingly good, with her fundraising haul totaling $1 billion since she entered the race just two short months ago. Trump "has raised around $853 million this calendar year in concert with the party, according to a tally of his campaign's public statements," per The New York Times. It's anyone's game, and we all stand to lose! (Representative title summing up October polling, from Emerson College: "Mixed Movement Across Swing States Shows Dead Heat.")


Scenes from New York: "The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there," Columbia University Apartheid Divest—a real student group, leading protests against the Israel-Hamas war—wrote on the messaging app Telegram on October 7 of this year. "It is our duty to fight for our freedom!"

On Tuesday, it rescinded a statement it had made, apologizing for the rhetoric of one of its members, Khymani James, who had said last school year in a disciplinary hearing that administrators should "be grateful that I'm not just going out and murdering Zionists" and "Zionists don't deserve to live comfortably."

("I will not allow anyone to shame me for my politics," James followed up, via Twitter. "Anything I said, I meant it.")

On October 3, the group wrote that it had been almost "one year since the genocide of Palestinians escalated following resistance led by Hamas against Israel's continued violent occupation." The October 1 light-rail attack in Jaffa, by Hamas, which killed six victims, including a mother who was wearing her baby in a carrier, was referred to as "a significant act of resistance" which "target[ed] Israeli security forces and settlers." Expect protests to get more unhinged, and retellings of violence in the Middle East to deviate further from reality.


QUICK HITS

  • "Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell is unlikely to win another big interest-rate cut from his policy committee so long as the labor market holds up," reports Bloomberg. "Powell described the move as a recalibration aimed at making sure the labor market remained strong at his press conference after officials reduced the benchmark lending rate by a half percentage point to a range of 4.75% to 5%. The move broke with the gradualism typical of Fed interest-rate changes."
  • "U.S. President Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke on Wednesday about potential Israeli retaliation against Iran while Lebanon's Hezbollah said its fighters pushed back advancing Israeli forces along the border," reports Reuters.
  • No, it's not:

Let's be clear. Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939 2/3

— Senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal (@bradhoylman) October 9, 2024

  • This is correct but should probably also be paired with charts on cost-of-living increases, which I would imagine Vance has in mind:

Senator, I'm sure you didn't mean to mislead anyone, but according to the Federal Reserve the net worth of young Americans has surged since 2019, and is at an all-time high. https://t.co/xVPYD6f7ZW pic.twitter.com/OWwihxGGYF

— Justin Wolfers (@JustinWolfers) October 9, 2024

  • The correct take on the multiday CBS meltdown (oh yeah, the one that's happening as millions of Americans deal with hurricane aftermath and even more millions deal with displacement and an active storm wreaking havoc):

Y'all shouldn't hold meetings. An interview happened on a show. It does not require meetings. It requires one grown-up to explain interviews to staffers in this news organization, perhaps on a pink slip. https://t.co/EFltNTHf8t

— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) October 8, 2024

  • I have no idea if it's based in much at all but I kind of love the anti-seed oil brigades, in part because I find the flavor of alternatives like tallow to be so much better:

Incredible things are happening in Lower Manhattan pic.twitter.com/OeYNguxHJl

— willy ???????? (@willystaley) October 9, 2024

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  1. Chumby   2 years ago

    Are you better off than you were 3.75 years ago? Your neighbors? The folks in North Carolina? Your nation? What about the planet?

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      JD Vance is wrong to ask those questions.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 years ago

        And wrong to answer them.

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          And wrong if he doesn't ask or answer them; gotta cover all possibilities.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            But is J.D. more wrong than he was 3.75 years ago.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Yes, 3.5 years ago I was under lockdown orders

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        For two weeks.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          Just till Easter.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Did your curve flatten?

  2. Chumby   2 years ago

    Transgender lawsuit against Christian baker dropped

    The Colorado Supreme Court has dismissed a case against Jack Phillips who refused to make a gender transition. The Colorado Supreme Court has dismissed a case against a Christian baker who had been sued for refusing to make a cake for a transgender woman.

    - Russia Today

    Perhaps a half-baked version of torte reform.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      The process is the punishment. They're going to keep doing this to him forever.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Pie in the sky to think these lawsuits will end. Creampuff may weigh in on this.

        1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          Should have been a piece of cake, for Masterpiece. Alas, the case was not a cookie cutter sort of case.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            The Colorado LGBTQXYZ123 contingent feels frosted.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

              Maybe they can be put on icing.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Pie in the sky to think these lawsuits will end. Creampuff may weigh in on this.

          It was dismissed explicitly to allow Scardina (who's actually a man and will never be a woman, no matter how much radical reconstructive surgery he gets or how many dresses he wears) to sue him again.

          I'll have to remember to go buy a pastry from Phillips next time I have to dirty myself from traveling through the Mile High Shitty.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Climate change may not cause hurricanes, but when they do form, it tends to turn them into blockbusters...

    Climate change just means warming, not also cooling? Why don't we just go back to using global warming, you cowards.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      The assholes pushing CAGW or whatever string of shit it is called today are not adjusting their personal lifestyle to counter their carbon emissions. They might recycle and have checked the “green energy option” box on their electric bill so that 8.3% of their electricity comes from eagle Cuisinarts.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        I blame soccer moms in SUV’s for the hurricane that is just as powerful as the one that hit florida 100 years ago.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Journalists that live in metropolises and galavant around the country should not cast stones. And yes, they should use critical thinking that the storms aren’t on CAGW steroids just that there is more infrastructure in the locations where they hit.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            just that there is more infrastructure in the locations where they hit.

            We should import another 100 million migrants to really solve the problem of urban sprawl.

        2. Zeb   2 years ago

          People like to ignore 100 years ago. An awful lot of record weather extremes are still from the 1920s and 30s.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Dude, that was before the internet and does not count (or show up on TikTok).

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Climate Change means whatever it needs to mean at the given moment. One year it can mean more hurricanes, the next it could mean fewer but more powerful hurricanes, and the year after that it can take a vacation as nobody remembers to mention it for some reason.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        “Climate Change” means whatever it takes to push the globohomo agenda.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          "Climate Change" means never having to say you're sorry. Or wrong. Or not deserving to run the world.

          1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

            “Climate Change” means never having to say you’re sorry. Or wrong.

            What if JD Vance acknowledges climate change?

            1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

              Schrödinger's Climate Change?

    3. SRG2   2 years ago

      It is a documented fact that although "climate change" was used as well as "global warming" for quite some time, though not as frequently, it was due to Frank Luntz’s advice to George W Bush that the GOP stuck to using the term “climate change”. And that usage was sufficiently effective that, ironically, later the right accused the left of switching terms!

      Meanwhile, you anti-science brigade have never provided your own models, never explained the mechanism by which increasing atmospheric CO from 270ppm to 400ppm would have little if any effect on climate, and from the perspective of the Batesian reasoning that so few of you seem capable of, why the recent record temperatures for months and years is not evidence for the global warming hypothesis and is instead merely due to chance.

      Of course, some of you will adopt the view that it’s not happening and anyway it’s a good thing. Indeed, almost everyone who goes from being an outright denialist to accepting that it is happening nonetheless will argue it’ll be beneficial.

      The argument that the people who say it’s happening don’t adjust their lifestyle accordingly is addressed simply by recognising that people are inconsistent and often hypocritical – like the vast majority of Americans who claim to be Christian, while not following the specific words and commands of Jesus.

      The advocates for climate change predicted increasing global temperatures and more severe hurricanes, while denialists predicted nothing that has actually occurred, while denying that the true predictions are connected with the hypothesis.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        1. The models provided have never worked for either predicting the current or past climes.

        2. 400 ppm seems like a lot of CO2 until you realize it’s near the low end of what’s been on this planet in the past 4.6 billion years. It’s a CO2 drought. Keep in mind that photosynthesis shuts down at 150 ppm.

        3. A question for you, SRG, what is the correct temperature for the planet, and correct concentration of CO2?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Also, would we still have hurricanes and bad storms?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            No, under the Green-curated CO2 and climate, they would be Good Storms.

            1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

              Stormy, but not TOO stormy

            2. CLM1227   2 years ago

              Let us remember, without taxing CO2, that category 4 hurricane could have been a category 5. I’m so glad we have CO2 under control.

        2. Overt   2 years ago

          Let's also note that 10 years ago, these researchers INSISTED that Hurricanes would be more frequent. And you were a denier if you didn't agree. Now, they insist you are an evil denier if you don't acknowledge that even though they aren't more frequent, they are more likely to be bad hurricanes.

          These people are shameless.

        3. Rossami   2 years ago

          4. The mechanism has been explained - repeatedly. You just don't like hearing it. Briefly, the terrestrial climate (unlike the Venusian climate studied by climate advocates like Hanson) is dominated by oceans and the water cycle. Water vapor has less greenhouse effect per molecule than CO2 but there is so very much more water vapor in the atmospheric column that water vapor dominates by at least an order of magnitude, possibly two.

          Furthermore, the water cycle and particularly short-term cloud formations acts as a negative feedback loop, not the positive one that is simply assumed in the climate change models. The result is that changes in CO2 levels have at best very modest effects on climate.

          Note that the historical evidence linking CO2 levels and temperature all show that CO2 levels lag temperature changes - that is, they are a result of increasing temperatures (probably through oceanic outgassing), not a cause of it.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

            More importantly every climate model that exists right now shows an unstable system. 50-100 year predictions heat up exponentially. We know this is false, so we know the models do not correctly describe the system. This is why they always do hundcast fitting every 2 years.

          2. rbike   2 years ago

            The solubility of CO2 in water is very temperature dependent.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              Generally, solubility increases as temperature increases.

              1. Heedless   2 years ago

                For ions, yes. For gases, it's the reverse.

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  Ions refers to charged atoms, in any of the three states of matter, liquid, solid or gas.

                  1. Rossami   2 years ago

                    Heedless said it wrong but has the right idea. Yes, solubility of solids generally increases as temperature increases but the reverse is true of gases. Increasing temperature decreases the maximum amount of a gas that can stay in solution in water.

                    That said, the 'solubility of solids increases but of gases decreases' rule is a very rough rule of thumb. If you want lots more examples, including some counter-examples, look up the Solubility Curve section in the Handbook of Chemistry & Physics.

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Thanks for the DNC dogma shrike.

        Quick question for you to see how knowledgeable you are. Maybe 2.

        What is the primary global warming gas?

        Is the 400 ppm even close to the historical maximum for CO2?

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

          White Mike knows the answer to #1

      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        “….predicted nothing that has actually occurred..”

        1999; low areas of NYC and Miami will be permanently under water by 2012. – climate Karens.

        I guess we’ll see when we get to 2012, but it ain’t looking good, ya limey fucking cracker.

        Haha. What a doosh.

    4. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "Climate change just means warming, "

      That's not correct. Once the phenomena were called Global Warming, but the name was changed to climate change to reflect reality. Climate change reflects changes in rainfall, wind, ocean currents and levels, and other things not strictly related to temperature.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Cuz those things NEVER change.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          There's more to climate change than warming temperatures. Hence the adoption of the climate change nomenclature. I suggest you 'acclimatize' to it, if you pardon the expression.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    "[Donald] Trump winning every swing state but Arizona?" asks polling analyst Nate Silver. "Surprising. [Kamala] Harris losing Pennsylvania and Michigan but winning Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina? Really surprising. But what about Harris winning Florida?"

    JFC, why bother with polling at this point.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      The poll results have danced around a bit. But they should continue because some folks like to observe poll dancing.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        I want to see the Venn diagram between poll watchers and pole watchers.

      2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        I thought I heard Crazy Bitch playing… no wait, that was just a crazy bitch talking.

      3. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I wish the strippers were nicer on the eyes.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

          It would help if they were actually women.

    2. SRG2   2 years ago

      Well, it helps to indicate where there might be fraud, e.g., the GOP vote suppression and fraud in the 2020 election, which, fortunately, wasn't effective.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        Cite, Diet Shrike?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          “Well, I grew up a middle class kid, in a neighborhood of folks who were very proud of their lawns.”

          - diet Shrike’s cite

      2. R Mac   2 years ago

        Lol.

      3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Shrike is actually getting dumber.

  5. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

    Funny, as soon as flordia booted out the cheering dems from Maricopa countyz, the state turned solid red

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Mixed Movement Across Swing States Shows Dead Heat.

    An actual dead heat means the Republican doesn't get sworn in come January.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    "The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there," Columbia University Apartheid Divest—a real student group, leading protests against the Israel-Hamas war—wrote on the messaging app Telegram on October 7 of this year.

    Yeah, I'm not parsing that mess.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      I think the fair minded translation from the woke would be along the lines of "kill the Jews" at least according to anonymous sources familiar with their thinking.

      1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        I cannot believe this is actually happening in America.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          By “educated” people no less.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            I don't think you could educate these people less.

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Progressives tell 1930s Germany to hold their Bud Light.

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

          Not a fan of American history?

    2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      It reads like an LLM trained on marxist screeds.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        You know who else was trained on Marxist screeds?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

          Kamala Harris?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Actually, yes.

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

          Tim Walz?

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Actually, yes.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              We are truly fucked.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Actually, yes.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/10/08/the-7-october-deniers/

      7 October wasn’t the first Islamist atrocity to be given the tinfoil-hat treatment. More than 20 years on from 9/11, an alarmingly large number of Americans – let alone people in other parts of the world, who have borne the brunt of the American military misadventures that followed – still refuse to believe the ‘official narrative’ about the murderous assault on the World Trade Center. And yet it’s telling that, in 9/11 too, many conspiracy theorists see the secret hand of the Jews. It was ordered by Mossad, they splutter, in league with Jewish American neocons, desperate to invade the Middle East.

      Here we see that the world’s oldest hatred is also the world’s most enduring conspiracy theory – ascribing Jews the role of killers, oppressors and master manipulators. Debunking the 7 October denialists is essential, but it sadly won’t be enough, until we can confront the conspiratorial bigotry that sees lying Jews everywhere.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...administrators should "be grateful that I'm not just going out and murdering Zionists" and "Zionists don't deserve to live comfortably."

    One can only guess his major there.

    1. Flaco   2 years ago

      Whatever it is, it ends with the word "Studies".

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      A master races in bullshit arts from Adolf Hitler University?

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell is unlikely to win another big interest-rate cut from his policy committee so long as the labor market holds up...

    The headless chicken landed on rate cut.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      He’s no Paul Volcker. That guy knew how to fight inflation.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 years ago

        Or Paul Yolker.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Don’t egg me on.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Get back in your shell.

  10. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Justin Wolfers
    @JustinWolfers
    Senator, I'm sure you didn't mean to mislead anyone, but according to the Federal Reserve the net worth of young Americans has surged since 2019, and is at an all-time high.

    Lol, Head of household under 35? They got both of them?

    For your next trick Justin, compare how many under 35 heads of household there are now, versus any time in history pre-Covid.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Plus, inflation .

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Yes, but what an odd qualifier he chose to make his point. He didn't select all under 35, just those who head households. And we all know that figure has been plummeting down since 2008.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Hard to be head of the household when you are living in the basement of the house.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      The surge is among the few that own homes. The surge is solely in property equity. Non liquid assets. Meanwhile the under 35 also have record debt.

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        Meanwhile the under 35 also have record debt.

        Bides has got a plan for that.

    3. Overt   2 years ago

      This mother fucker is an embarrassment. He constantly posts these charts and is FULL OF SHIT. He posted "proof" the other day that we are at an all time high for manufacturing...and the proof was total cost of construction- not manufacturing, and not output. He is the biggest cherrypicker in the world.

      1. XM   2 years ago

        According to this guy's charts, young people's net worth in 2010 (2 years after the financial crash) was as good as years after 2020, not long after a global pandemic.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    U.S. President Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke on Wednesday...

    To be a fly on that wall.

    1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      You'd be the second smartest being in the room.

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      There may have been a few bugs there…

    3. Anomalous   2 years ago

      Bibi is smart enough not to share anything substantive with Biden. It ain't just Joe's bladder that's leaky.

  12. Randy Sax   2 years ago

    a real student group, leading protests against the Israel-Hamas war —wrote on the messaging app Telegram on October 7 of this year. "It is our duty to fight for our freedom!"

    That message does not seem verry anti-war to me.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Perhaps they could quit the oppressive institution (and country) in search of their freedom.

    2. DRM   2 years ago

      Oh, they're entirely anti-war. They're just not pacifists. They're unalterably opposed to their victims (or anyone working on their victims' behalf) being allowed to shoot back.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Let's be clear. Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939...

    You know who else engaged in cringey hyperbole?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Chase Oliver?

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 years ago

        Oh, you lit the sarc bonfire. You shouldna oughta had done that.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

          Yep, that victim signal will be lit as he calls us all “mean girls”.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            It is like mentioning Section 230 for sqrlsy. In the Chade article from this morning, Sloshtradamus was chasetising me for something that I said in the future.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 years ago

              And used my comment to prove it!

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                The sarc puppet has spoken.

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      Gorilla Monsoon?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Man, what I wouldn't give for one more broadcast of him and Bobby Heenan.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Humanoids.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Will you stop?

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

      Literally every person ever?

    4. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      Literally everyone?

      Highest on the leaderboard goes to Greta Thunberg.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

        But aoc was killed about 30 times

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          AOC can win the standard division, Greta gets the special division.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Division is white male privilege! Probably subtraction, too.

    5. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      Chemjeff retarded idiot?

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Rachel Madbox?

    7. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      The View?

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    It requires one grown-up to explain interviews to staffers in this news organization, perhaps on a pink slip.

    Ham, you brute!

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      If everyone gets fired, is that equity?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        Technically, yes.

        “You don’t have a job! You don’t have a job! And you don’t have a job! No one has a job!”

  15. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    "Climate change may not cause hurricanes, but when they do form, it tends to turn them into blockbusters," concludes Gongloff. "That means anyone in the potential path of a hurricane—which can extend hundreds of miles from shore, as Helene taught us—needs to be prepared for the worst."

    But Liz...this is still just blatantly a form of confirmation bias. After years of evidence that we're not getting more hurricanes doing more damage constantly, the parameters shifted, and now a hurricane is being blamed on climate change anyway.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Bailey may have contributed to this morning’s offering.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        More testing needed!

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      If any given time frame has unusually bad weather, that is support of “climate change”. If any given time frame has normal weather patterns, that is just weather and cannot be used to questionthe assumptions of climate change theory.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        Cold day in the summer;
        "WEATHER IS NOT THE SAME AS CLIMATE!"

        Warm day in winter;
        "GLOBAL WARMING IS KILLING US!"

      2. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

        It’s an unfalsifiable claim, so it’s bullshit, logically.

      3. CLM1227   2 years ago

        Blaming weather disasters on God’s vengeance carries more weight than Climate Change reasoning.

    3. Zeb   2 years ago

      Yeah, that's not how you do science. That's model tuning. Models are hypotheses, not theories. Making models that predict the past is easy.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 years ago

        It's not easy. Far as I know, not a single climate model has accurately predicted its own past climate.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          OK, maybe I overstated it. But they do tune the models to look more or less like past observations. You can make a model that fits data well, but it's still a hypothesis until it makes accurate, testable predictions.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        In the 21st century, "science" starts with the desired ideological conclusion, and uses "data" to support the desired narrative. Just like in the 6th century.

        1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

          We all know throwing a virgin in a volcano makes rain. We have the data to support it. Trust the science.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Can the virgin be male? Apparently we have a shit-ton of those.

    4. Ron   2 years ago

      according to Bill Nye the science guy who doesn't know science says we have to elect Harris to keep this from happening so its not climate its Trump's fault

  16. Zeb   2 years ago

    For example, "global heating made both of these storms more powerful than they had to be," writes Mark Gongloff for Bloomberg:

    How can you even know that? I don't think we really have very complete information on hurricanes from before weather satellites, which is what, 50 years or so? We have no idea what is "normal" (if that even makes sense to talk about when it comes to long term weather). Also, I'm pretty sure it's the temperature gradient that matters for hurricane strength, not the absolute sea temps.
    Trying to talk about whether a particular weather event is caused by global warming seems completely absurd to me. The climate is a hugely complex interconnected system. Climate change, whatever it is, is in some sense a cause of absolutely everything that happens. I don't see how it makes any sense at all to say this storm was worse because of it, but another wasn't. How can you possibly determine that?

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 years ago

      Before satellites, hurricanes that never made landfall were seldom known. They also changed the naming standards.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      He doesn’t know that. Gongloff is talking out of his posterior.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

      Hurricanes operate at heat engines, so the more delta T you have the stronger the storm.
      The polar parts of the globe are warming faster than the equator, which lowers the delta T.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Just a reminder that 50 years is 0.3% of the 15,000 years since the last glacial period (and an infinitesimal fraction of the past 3 million years of glacial-interglacial periods). I though only economists are skilled enough to predict trends from essentially instantaneous data.

    5. Chinny Chin Chin   2 years ago

      Pre-satellite records on hurricanes come primarily from measurements of wind strength. The US Weather Bureau has used anemometers to gauge wind strength since the 1920s, so today's researchers apply the Saffir-Simpson scale to the historical measurements. They say that the percentage of high-category storms has risen since 1920.

      A secondary data source is rainfall. Similarly, researchers claim that the average rain from hurricanes is larger now than in the past.

      Whether you agree with scientists or not on these points is, of course, up to you. But what I describe above is ridiculously easy to learn via the intarwebz, and the underlying research papers are readily available to read.

      The "do your own research" mantra is no less applicable to climate science as it was to Covid.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        So ridiculously easy to learn that you stopped at the facial level of analysis without actually understanding the issues.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

        They have no way of knowing. Milton “rapidly intensified” in the middle of the gulf and it was a Cat 5 and that was MMGW/AGW Armegeddon, and then it “rapidly deintensified” to a Cat 3 as it approached land

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Back in the 20’s, nobody would have known that happened.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

            And we still don’t understand why some hurricanes rapidly intensify and others don’t.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              It’s because soccer moms drive SUV’s.

            2. Heedless   2 years ago

              Meth is a hell of a drug.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        See my comment above. A 100 year data set is no more meaningful than a 50 year span when talking about climate trends on multi-century and multi-millennia scales.

      4. Zeb   2 years ago

        And? I know data exists. I'm saying it is likely incomplete compared to what we have for the satellite era. They didn't have a lot of anemometers in the middle of the ocean or gulf of Mexico. Or have a way of knowing if they were measuring the actual highest winds the storm produced.

      5. Eeyore   2 years ago

        Stupid. People take the measurements. People have biases. People want to find the results they want to find. They will find them, even if subconsciously. Human errors plague all fields of science and that is never going to change.

    6. HorseConch   2 years ago

      Even with the satelites, how has the equipment changed over the years? The sample size is so small, that small differences in equipment accuracy could make a huge difference.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        My favorite change has been taking the average temp over an hour with digital stations to reporting solely the highest achieved temp in an hour. Death Valley it has been shown they are largely measuring not average temp but the highest temps usually produced by wind gusts.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          at some point they are going to run out of creative ways to artificially juice the data and just flat out lie about it

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Some day?

    7. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "How can you even know that? "

      Because its the same unfalsifiable reasoning they have continued to use and will continue to use.

      No two hurricanes are the same, and even if we had X,000 hurricanes that happened in the Gulf in this exact way that looked identical, we wouldn't have had the data on almost any of them, as we actually are now capable in this tiny sliver of existence that is the last 100 years. Also the data would absolutely not have looked as scary, because we had much less sensitive and frankly less detailed ways of assessing the storms. And the damage figures, which largely relate to property/land/buildings destroyed and aid rendered, will naturally always increase as we build larger, fancier, more expensive, more densely packed homes on the coast and inflation is a guarantee over time...

      Also forget about the fact that hurricanes have in fact *not* increased over time despite promises from climate alarmists, and deaths related to climate disasters, extreme temps, etc are at historic lows...

      So a statement like "of course, this storm was made worse by climate change" is anti-scientific definitionally, and in a sane world would be given scrutiny and skepticism, but since the climate cult has captured all of the MSM, academia, and democrat party establishment, it is a taken for granted throw away line in the same way that tribes might have said "of course, sacrificing a couple more virgins into the volcanoes this year certainly made the storms better than they would have been had we not tossed them in there"

  17. JAQO   2 years ago

    So now so-called Reason magazine has gone full retard on so-called climate change too? Am glad I cancelled my subscription years ago over their risible stance on suicidal immigration and their deeply hypocritical one on law enforcement

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      No, there's a lot more retard to go on climate change. At most they're 1/3 to 1/2 retard.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        I blame it on long TDS.

  18. Moonrocks   2 years ago

    An interview happened on a show

    It wasn't supposed to be an interview, it was supposed to be a campaign stop.

  19. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

    Well surprising no one, JD Vance is wrong about seed oils.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Beef tallow is back, baby!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        Make Fries Good Again!

    2. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      Just Stop (seed) Oil!

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

        No blood for seed!

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      They are to be avoided. Best to switch olive your oils to something else.

    4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

      CARBONE PUTS SEED OILS IN THEIR SPICY RIGATONI sounds like something between SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE and DONT ORDER THE SCHNITZEL, THEY’RE USING SCHNAUZER and JACKIE TREEHORN TREATS OBJECTS LIKE WOMEN, MAN

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        Mr. Treehorn draws a lot of water in this town. You don't draw shit, But SkyNet is a Private Company.

  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Fatalities have already been reported due to tornadoes that formed as a result of the storm. The hurricane has now weakened to a Category 1, but millions are without power this morning with plenty of property damaged sustained. Milton will now be making its way toward Florida's east coast, but flash flood and storm surge warnings remain in effect for large parts of the state.'

    Unlike the compulsively optimistic kid, looking for a pony in a pile of manure, "reporters" hope to find armageddon in every mildly disruptive event.

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      People really love doom and gloom. It's weird. I'll admit I've been less optimistic about a lot of things in recent years. But I still really hope I'm wrong about a lot of things.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      There is genuine disappointment on the weather channel that Florida wasn’t stripped down to bedrock last night.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Is that the same Weather Channel that a few years back got busted when their reporter, during another Florida hurricane "disaster", was caught storm-casting in water apparently up to his waist? But on live TV, a pair of people walked behind him in ankle-deep water.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          And there was the one who was leaning into the gale force wind barely able to maintain his verticality without getting blow away. And then two people walked across the parking lot right behind him completely normally.

          And you gotta love how his network made excuses for him ("wet grass").

          Weather Channel Responds To Claims Reporter Was Faking Coverage Of Hurricane Florence
          https://youtu.be/ZyrRCx8-fZk

          1. Eeyore   2 years ago

            They all like to wear a cheap plastic hoodie that really flaps loudly in the wind. That cheap blue hoodie is a fake news standard.

  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'On Tuesday, it rescinded a statement it had made, apologizing for the rhetoric of one of its members, Khymani James, who had said last school year in a disciplinary hearing that administrators should "be grateful that I'm not just going out and murdering Zionists" and "Zionists don't deserve to live comfortably."'

    Was James more wrong than J.D. Vance?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Nobody has ever been more wrong than JD Vance.

  22. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "Climate change may not cause hurricanes, but when they do form, it tends to turn them into blockbusters," concludes Gongloff. "That means anyone in the potential path of a hurricane—which can extend hundreds of miles from shore, as Helene taught us—needs to be prepared for the worst."

    And if climate change does not actually strengthen storms, we have proof--PROOF!--that it does make people more hysterical (and easier to manipulate).

  23. Randy Sax   2 years ago

    Let’s be clear. Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939

    "Like, OMG, Trump is literally Hitler you guys"

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Don’t you remember how Americans turned nazi after that rally in 1939?

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        So, then wouldn't the concern be that Germany turns pro-Trump?

        I'm confused, is MSG like the nexus or gateway to the parallel, alternate-historical-future universe or is it itself a part of the parallel, alternate-historical-future universe?

        And how have The Knicks played there for so long without destroying the entire multiverse?

        1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

          And how have The Knicks played there for so long without destroying the entire multiverse?

          Because they suck?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

            Ditto for the Rangers.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      And his supporters are literally Nazis!

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Trump-Vance are the ones currently sending tens of billions of dollars to a nazi-adjacent, bandera puppet regime in Kiev to help them with their proxy war. Oh wait.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      The Nazi's aren't the ones screaming "Death to Jews" in America's street, smashing the windows of Jewish businesses and attacking random Jewish passersby.

      No the real Nazis are the supporters of the guy with the Jewish daughter and granddaughter. The guy who convinced Arabs to make peace with Israel. The guy who moved the American embassy to Israel. The guy who wore a yarmulke and prayed at the Western wall.

      Absolutely insane.

    4. R Mac   2 years ago

      True.

      — sarc

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    '"Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell is unlikely to win another big interest-rate cut from his policy committee so long as the labor market holds up," reports Bloomberg.'

    How long before Obiden is on the phone to the BLS?

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    '"U.S. President Joe Biden and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke on Wednesday about potential Israeli retaliation against Iran while Lebanon's Hezbollah said its fighters pushed back advancing Israeli forces along the border," reports Reuters.'

    So that's what Netanyahu talked about. What did Joe talk about?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Ice cream?

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Children’s shampoo rankings?

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Corn Pop?

    4. Chumby   2 years ago

      How to resolve differences using the battlebox?

    5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Cannibals?

  26. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    RE: Trump at MSG.

    Look, if a state senator can't control public events and speakers, why bother getting elected?

  27. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    "Climate change may not cause hurricanes, but when they do form, it tends to turn them into blockbusters," concludes Gongloff. "That means anyone in the potential path of a hurricane—which can extend hundreds of miles from shore, as Helene taught us—needs to be prepared for the worst."

    Liz. Don't be like Bailey. If you don't understand the topic. Stay away. Whatever you do, don't repeat the same alarmist that have been wrong on every prediction. They were wrong on frequency so they shifted to severity.

    The problem is historical data wind speeds were taken in land, where winds die down. If you look at data from same regional locations, severity of storms is not increasing by any statistical measure. We can simply just see the wind speeds further out from land where winds are strongest.

    If anything the temp delta between urban heat and atmospheric temps causes a slight increase. Wind speeds are based on temp delta due to pressure relations.

    Just please don't go down Baileys route of shame.

  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'I have no idea if it's based in much at all but I kind of love the anti-seed oil brigades, in part because I find the flavor of alternatives like tallow to be so much better'

    When coddled, elitist retards reach the next level in meaningless actions in their meaningless lives.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      I'm left to conclude that New Yorkers have too much time on their hands.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Just wait for stage 2 Neo-socialism, when they have to report twice each week for busses to the People's Work Farms.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Remember when McDonald’s was shamed into stop using beef tallow in the French fry pots?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        Yes.

        Make Fries Good Again!
        #MFGA

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        I’m not sure if they were shamed into it or found it more economically viable. qv, Coke switching from sugar to high fructose corn syrup. I get there was some bad press about the animal fat, but how big and who was really behind it?

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          I get there was some bad press about the animal fat, but how big and who was really behind it?

          At least George McGovern, the USDA, and the NIH since the 60s.

          I should also note that it's not a clean and perfect split either. Lots of what made the seed oils and other recommended fats cheaper is also what made them less healthy and could/does frequently work both ways. You can get tallow and lard that with temperature and shelf stability similar to that of crisco and seed oils... with a lot of processing. That, however, still doesn't excuse the decades of '100% safe and effective with no downsides' that was heaped on the American people.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            The circles I’m in highly value beef tallow (from grass fed beef and no pharming products). There may sometimes be processing but it will be using Amish technology.

            1. mad.casual   2 years ago

              I can't say I'm in a circle. I can say this is not my/the first rodeo.

              I'm certainly not deriding your friends or anyone consuming beef tallow, more lamenting about how the pendulum continues to swing *wildly*.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

          Coca Cola and other soft drink manufacturers switched from sugar to HFCS due to cost. There’s one Reason could discus, “the sugar tariff and corn subsidies: why your pop sucks compared to the 70s.”

          1. rbike   2 years ago

            Yep. Corn syrup started in the 80's. I remember thinking my Pepsi now tastes like corn. Note: born and raised in Iowa, I know my corn. Literally grew up surrounded by cornfields. Still live there.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Are we still subsidizing Florida sugar?

  29. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    Perhaps this specific one is far-fetched, but Harris' performance late in the season (and cringey media blitz) has been shockingly good,

    This is when we knew good Liz was no more.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Perhaps she meant her interviews were a shockingly good source of comedy.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        I sadly am no longer as optimistic as you.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          you're also several months late on the "no more"

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

            Fair.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Yeah, new Liz sounds different after her re-education, er, vacation.

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      Narrator’s voice

      As the storm clouds approached and grew in intensity, only The Stoss remained.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        Heaton, Bragg and Remy

    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Harris' own campaign staff doesn't believe this per Axios.

      Bad Hombre
      @joma_gc
      A Harris campaign staffer reveals to Axios that their Sunbelt internal polling is so bad they’re recognizing the only viable path forward for Harris is winning both MI and PA; two states where she’s under water with key demographics.

      The staffer noted that a sense of impending doom hangs heavily over the campaign in its final weeks, with a Trump return now feeling inevitable.

      The joy is gone.

    5. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Yeah. Same old, same old “A pox on both houses, but one house a little less.”

      Especially at a time when it’s actually pretty clear that not just one candidate, or even just one campaign, is struggling with their perception and even friendly interactions with the media.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        not just one candidate, or even just one campaign, is struggling with their perception and even friendly interactions with the media

        I guess I should be clear that it's the whole party ideology. Harris is crumbling around Oprah and 60 min. Walz is calling for the abolishing of the electoral college on a hot mic behind closed doors, Tai Nahisi Coates is melting down on CBS, FEMA and Mayorkas are saying they're out of money and, despite Reason's assertions to the contrary, Trump is right in calling out the claim... it has not been a good late season for the candidate, campaign, and affiliated/interested parties.

    6. Zeb   2 years ago

      Seems like you'd have to be starting from extremely low expectations to say that.

  30. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

    "Let’s be clear. Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939"

    Let's be clear:
    This.
    Asshole.
    Is.
    Full.
    Of.
    Shit.

  31. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/10/09/7-october-was-a-mask-off-moment-for-the-left/

    In the days after Hamas’s 7 October mass murder, rape, mutilation and massacre of 1,200 people in Israel, many of them young, women and children, there was a moment in which it was still possible to believe that the global left would stand with the victims of one of the most heinous acts we had seen in our lifetimes. It was the starkest contrast of good versus evil imaginable, which the evil side had helpfully filmed so as to erase any ambiguity about their actions or intentions. But we all know what happened next: the left chose evil.

    In [his new book, Brendan O’Neill] painstakingly lays out how the left came to be Hamas’s great champions. How feminists denied the mass rape of Israeli women. How faculty members cheered on the slaughter of Israeli children. How millions marched in the streets under the banner of ‘From the river to the sea’, even before Israel began its offensive in Gaza to bring back its hostages and eliminate its enemy. How they accused Israel of genocide – for wishing to prevent genocide.

    For many progressive Jews, watching their fellow leftists proudly proclaim their lust for Jewish blood was horrifying.

    In ripping off the mask and going all in on their support of ‘resistance by any means necessary’, the left made itself morally irrelevant. In condoning calls for the genocide of the Jews, elite universities in the US made themselves objects of mockery for generations to come. In becoming Hamas’s cheering section, the left has made its claim to be the side of morality patently and obviously false. It was the largest act of moral self-marginalisation that I can ever recall witnessing.

    After all, who cares what someone’s take on transgender medical treatments is when they cheer for Hamas? Who cares what someone’s take on women’s rights is when they deny the mass rape of Israeli women? Who cares what someone thinks about abortion when they don’t condemn the murder of Israeli babies? Who cares what someone thinks about the war in Ukraine when they can’t tell who is an ally and who an enemy? Who cares who someone is voting for when they can’t condemn the genocide of the Jews?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      (a bit more, emphasis mine)

      The woke worldview replaces the foundation of Western civilisation – a worldview based on the distinction of right vs wrong, virtue vs evil – with the binary of powerful vs powerless, and then superimposes race on to that binary. Identitarians ascribe inherent virtue to those they see as powerless and evil to those they see as powerful. This is the source of 21st-century leftist anti-Semitism: every Jew is coded as white and is thus a powerful oppressor, and every Palestinian is coded as a ‘person of colour’ and thus is oppressed and inherently virtuous. Crucially, to the woke, the powerless have no moral agency and thus no moral responsibilities, and this includes Hamas. Abjection is the only virtue the left recognises, and this even applies for terrorists. Hence, by any means necessary.

      If you’re an American, you have to have a college degree to believe this crap, although TikTok has been instrumental in popularising this ideology. In using the highfalutin justifications of the woke ideology to cheerlead Hamas, the global left has managed to reveal its thought process to be inherently, irredeemably flawed.

      1. CLM1227   2 years ago

        This is why I was shocked that any American Jews supported intersectionality/critical theory ideology. I was watching Mrs. Maisel at the height of the crt controversy and was shocked a Jewish writer (Amy Sherman. Palladino) would take her very Jewish character who comes from wealth, security, and “privilege” and put her through a Privilege telescope of modern politics and 1960s NYC.

        Like, do you really want to be explicitly making this connection of Jews and White Privilege in the minds of your audience? How daft can you be?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      After all, who cares what someone’s take on transgender medical treatments is when they cheer for Hamas? Who cares what someone’s take on women’s rights is when they deny the mass rape of Israeli women? Who cares what someone thinks about abortion when they don’t condemn the murder of Israeli babies? Who cares what someone thinks about the war in Ukraine when they can’t tell who is an ally and who an enemy? Who cares who someone is voting for when they can’t condemn the genocide of the Jews?

      I know *exactly* how Brendan feels and while I wish I could agree unreservedly with his assessment, I've got one word for him: Amnesty.

    3. Rick James   2 years ago

      Now you know why he hasn't been asked back.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Like I've mentioned before, the only reason the left is spazzing out for the Palestinians is because they see it as South Africa 2.0 and think that standing against Israel is going to advance the communist revolution (looking at what a shithole South Africa is now, that's basically the future of the west on its current trajectory).

      That's really all it boils down to. The issue isn't the issue. The issue is whatever advances the communist utopia.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        The issue isn’t the issue. The issue is whatever advances the communist utopia.

        You mean "Haitians eating cats" isn't specifically about Haiti and felines?

      2. JFree   2 years ago

        the only reason the left is spazzing out for the Palestinians is because they see it as South Africa 2.0 and think that standing against Israel is going to advance the communist revolution

        I'm sure there are idiots on campuses who are living out the dreams of the Che Guevara posters in their dorm room.

        But the reasons people are 'supporting' the Palestinians is more the reasons outlined in the recent letter to Biden from 99 American physicians, surgeons, nurse practitioners, nurses, and midwives who have volunteered in the Gaza Strip since October 7, 2023.

        It is likely that the death toll from this conflict is already greater than 118,908,

        With only marginal exceptions, everyone in Gaza is sick, injured, or both. This includes every national aid worker, every international volunteer, and probably every Israeli hostage: every man, woman, and child. While working in Gaza we saw widespread malnutrition in our patients and our Palestinian healthcare colleagues.

        Virtually every child under the age of five whom we encountered, both inside and outside of the hospital, had both a cough and watery diarrhea.

        An astonishingly high percentage of our surgical incisions became infected from the combination of malnutrition, impossible operating conditions, lack of basic sanitation supplies such as soap, and lack of surgical supplies and medications, including antibiotics.

        Every day I saw babies die. They had been born healthy. Their mothers were so malnourished that they could not breastfeed, and we lacked formula or clean water to feed them, so they starved.

        Israel’s continued, repeated displacement of the malnourished and sick population of Gaza, half of whom are children, to areas without running water or even toilets available is absolutely shocking.

        Specifically, every one of us who worked in an emergency, intensive care, or surgical setting treated pre-teen children who were shot in the head or chest on a regular or even a daily basis. It is impossible that such widespread shooting of young children throughout Gaza, sustained over the course of an entire year is accidental or unknown to the highest Israeli civilian and military authorities.

        The 99 signatories to this letter spent a combined 254 weeks inside Gaza’s largest hospitals and clinics. We wish to be absolutely clear: not once did any of us see any type of Palestinian militant activity in any of Gaza’s hospitals or other healthcare facilities.

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          The 118,000 conservative estimate for dead comes from the detailed info in the Appendix. Some sources (eg The Lancet) indicate the number could be 200,000 by now. That would include starvation, epidemics, etc that are a direct consequence of hospitals being targeted by the IDF because they are govt/public hospitals (hence Hamas).

          The 41,000 that is cited in US sources (always with ‘Hamas’ attached to it as if the number is really lower) is ONLY identified corpses brought to a morgue with violent causes like bullets/explosions/etc as the cause of death.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Fuck off with this shit.

            1. JFree   2 years ago

              You're complicit in genocide. As is this shitrag Reason. If that makes you uncomfortable - good.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

                Worst Genocide Ever. The Arab Muslim population in Gaza and the West Bank has grown substantially, dudette.

              2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                I don’t give two fucks about those idiots. If you care so much about it, go over there and help out.

              3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

                Lol. Fucking JewFree.

          2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Do you weep for your hamas homies, JFree?

            They will be hunted down like the human animals that they are, and offered terms that muslims have traditionally offered in war: surrender, or die. Since hamas is a death cult, they are being slowly accommodated.

            Do you sob for your hezball-less homies, too? I bet you were pissed when The Almighty smote the hezball-less shitheads with The Night of the Thousand Brises.

            hamas can end the war today: surrender.

          3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

            "Conservative" lol. Never change JewFree.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          Not from my viewing position. The majority of people cheering for "the cause" at US colleges, etc. seems to

          a) fully support Hamas the terrorist organization, and not the Palestinian people's humanitarian cause
          b) because they choose to see them as "freedom fighters" like they choose to see Chez Guevara as a hero and not as a Marist, racist, murderous agitator
          c) most importantly, they hate Jews and wish the Holocaust had not failed

          The Palestinian people's humanitarian cause falls fully on their own shoulders. "What we've got here is failure to communicate.
          Some men, you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week -- which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it."

          If Israel wanted to genocide the Gazan Palestinians, there wouldn't be any Gazan Palestinians left. It's that simple.

          1. JFree   2 years ago

            The purpose of yapping about college campuses every time there is any protest about Palestine is to divert attention from what is happening there - to what is truly irrelevant here. That is almost the entirety of stories tagged 'Palestine' here at Reason for many many years (though this story wasn't tagged that - it just happened in the comments). Stories about college campuses here in the US. Easy way to render an audience ignorant and manipulable.

            There is nothing about the genocide in Gaza that is incompetent. If that is what you believe or what you think I believe, then you are - ignorant and manipulable.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              If only we embraced your manipulation, right?

              I assume that once you identify an "oppressed people" you strip them of all agency and ability. That makes it easier to blame the "oppressor" and exonerate the blameless victims.

              You post-modern Neo-socialists have been singing the same tune since the 1970s. Too bad your movement, and the Grand Revolution, is going bust.

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

              "...There is nothing about the genocide in Gaza that is incompetent..."

              Except nothing of the sort is happening, JFucked.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          I’m sure there are idiots on campuses who are living out the dreams of the Che Guevara posters in their dorm room.

          Nice use of the passive voice there, especially in the face of countless news reports both now and last spring.

          But the reasons people are ‘supporting’ the Palestinians is more the reasons outlined in the recent letter to Biden from 99 American physicians, surgeons, nurse practitioners, nurses, and midwives who have volunteered in the Gaza Strip since October 7, 2023.

          No, it's definitely more to do with advancing the communist utopia.

  32. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "I don't often form hurricanes. But when I do, I form blockbusters."
    - The Most Interesting Climate in the World

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Cinco Gato

    2. Eeyore   2 years ago

      Lol

    3. Yuno Hoo   2 years ago

      “I don’t often sniff glue. But when I do, I sniff Testers.”

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        Hey now, model glue is great shit. Not only will it get you high, but you’ll be frustrated that you glued the wrong parts together and your hand to them.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          It's cement, not glue! FFS do you use concrete for tuckpointing? Cement for foundations? Solder for welding?

          [lowers head back to magnifying lamp and resumes hand painting nose art]

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Do you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

    4. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Stay frightened, my friends.

  33. Marshal   2 years ago

    The interesting result of the lefts attacks on Vance is their final position: the government needs emergency powers to force businesses to do what they want because Americans are doing better than ever before.

  34. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

    "Hurricane Milton made landfall overnight close to Siesta Key, Florida, as a Category 3 storm with maximum wind speeds of 120 mph."

    A cat 3 tropical storm is not a "hurricane".

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      A category 3 is indeed a hurricane. It will have sustained winds of 111 mph to 129 mph. A hurricane is anything with sustained winds of 74 mph or greater.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

        I stand corrected. THX.

  35. Rick James   2 years ago

    Did the secret classified Documents at Mar a Lago make it?

  36. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Why are these hurricanes so destructive?

    why is irresponsible jornolism more destructive than hurricanes?

  37. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"global heating made both of these storms more powerful than they had to be," writes Mark Gongloff for Bloomberg:

    Gongloff should be mocked, not cited.

  38. Rick James   2 years ago

    Perhaps this specific one is far-fetched, but Harris' performance late in the season (and cringey media blitz) has been shockingly good, with her fundraising haul totaling $1 billion since she entered the race just two short months ago.

    I'm confrused. What performance has been 'shockingly good'. Her campaign logistics, ability to arrive on time for an interview, or the "cringey media blitz' being 'shockingly good'? If it's shockingly good, why are we calling it 'cringey'?

    I don't mean to be that guy, but to be that guy, her media blitz has been a quintessential Harris-esque word-salad... so word-salad-ey in fact, that CBS news has resorted to editing the answers she gave to a friendly interviewer in what essentially amounts to a series of WeakFakes produced by the media to help her.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      A. She’s (and her proxies) have raised a crapton of money.
      B. She is polling well above 0, despite everything. So there’s that.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        accidentally posted a non sequitur here so let's try to reply for real ...

        billionaires can still be fools with their money

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          sorry this ^^^ was not meant to be posted here

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      That is a bit hard to parse. She calls the media blitz "cringey", which doesn't sound like a good thing to me. So I guess it's the money?

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Hillary raised and spent a lot more money than trump did.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          Is that somehow relevant here?

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      It’s a riddle wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in an enigma. Don’t look at me! Cracks the code, or nearly, below.

      The appearances that continue to make her (and Tim Walz and the ‘Historic First Black Sex Worker’ DEI agenda) appear less and less electable to the public are making her donors give her more money to defeat Trump. Cringey but shockingly good at bilking money from wealthy morons.

    4. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

      So good that the little demented cajon elf, Carville, is predicting Trump is going to win six of seven of the swing states.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        Carville is usually ridiculously pro-Democrat so if you see him calling swing states for Trump, you know the Dems are going down like Kamala on Willie Brown.

    5. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "What performance has been ‘shockingly good’. "

      Good compared to what expectations there were for her as a candidate. Cast your mind back four or five months ago. Biden was still the candidate, do you remember? There were rumblings, however, and pundits and activists were trying to come up with a replacement. Gavin Newsom's name was frequently mentioned, as was Michelle Obama's. Harris was written off as an uninspiring nobody if mentioned at all. Think hard and try to remember. It wasn't all that long ago.

      She went from being a passed over VP, the Mike Pence of the Democrats, to being today in a position where could conceivably win the election.

  39. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    STEPHEN COLBERT: You are a member of the present administration. Under a Harris administration, what would the major changes be, and what would stay the same?

    VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: Sure. I mean, obviously I'm not Joe Biden. So that would be one change.

    But also I think it's important to say with 28 days to go, I'm not Donald Trump.

    And so when we think about the significance of what this next generation of leadership looks like -- were I to be elected president -- it is about frankly, I love the American people and I believe in our country. I love that that it is our character and nature to be an ambitious people. You know, we have aspirations. We have dreams. We have incredible work ethic. And I just believe that we can create and build upon the success we've achieved in a way that we continue to grow opportunity and in that way, grow the strength of our nation.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Fuck.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Apparently you need to get in line.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Colbert is such a fucking Democrat hack that there's no way he's going to comment on the fact that she couldn't even answer the basic question he asked, and immediately resorted to the canned "I'm from a middle class family" response.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        It's not even “I’m from a middle class family”. It's straight up secular Obama reinterpreting MLK.

        "It's about frankly... I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of our Nation shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together."

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          she really tries to be O with the "folks out there ..." and "the folks" etc.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          I love the American people and I believe in our country.

          This is the biggest tell. Her side doesn't even like this country.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            She believes in it in the sense that she believes it is a thing that exists.

  40. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>The correct take on the multiday CBS meltdown

    is a 48-point bold headline CBS News Not Credible

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      CBS News: Criminally Bull Shit News.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        mme dillinger has megyn kelly on this morning she says “CBS News was credible once when Uncle Walter was on your tv every night” I was like Uncle Walter lied to everyone’s fucking face every night too what were you watching?

  41. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>The full piece is useful if you’re interested in gaming out a scenario

    the source is owned by ABC news. no gracias.

    1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

      RCP has Trump ahead (albeit by a small percentage in some cases) in five of seven swing states. Carville predicted Trump is going to win six of seven swing states. Harris is running well behind Biden at this point in 2020, and Biden barely squeaked by, Trump was behind in almost every swing state at this point in 2020, and barely lost them. Trump is also leading among Hispanic males in Arizona and Nevada (while performing at GWB numbers among all Hispanics, which was considered to be a very good showing among Hispanics in his two wins). Given these data points, I much rather be working for the Trump campaign than the Harris at this point in time.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Sandy's favorite source: https://www.electionbettingodds.com/, which has had the EC going 281-257 in the GOP's favor for months, pushed to 296-242... still in the GOP's favor (and is now reporting "the popular vote" at 53/46 in Trump's favor).

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          Largely because the fundamentals haven't changed since July. Yeah, there was some 'excitement' for Harris, or more like relief that Biden wasn't running again, but as the newness wore off, she was inevitably going to revert to the mean. Furthermore, the fact that her bump was so small and she got little to no bump from the debate, pretty much spelled the fact she didn't have real staying power. Plus, now it appears that Joe, or at least his handlers (Jill?) are actively undercutting her narrative.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Voters Pounce!

        2. Dillinger   2 years ago

          I'm usually Rasmussen only but the betting markets are fun to look at

      2. mtrueman   2 years ago

        Polls and poll aggregators seem to be becoming increasingly dubious. Spam polls are now a thing, and these aren't taken to provide the public with a snap shot of public opinion, but to push a narrative of a particular party. Or prepare the ground for questioning elections when they differ radically from a poll showing contrary results.

  42. Rossami   2 years ago

    Gongloff is a moron who doesn't understand basic physics. Hurricanes are heat engines. Heat engines are powered by heat differentials, not by absolute levels of temperature. The climate change models predict and the observed measurements show higher temperatures than they used to be at night and during the winter. In other words, there is less temperature differential, thus less energy available to drive the heat engine.

    The analysis by the so-called World Weather Attribution group is so slipshod that it wouldn't pass a freshman engineering class.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      The analysis by the so-called World Weather Attribution group is so slipshod that it wouldn’t pass a freshman engineering class.

      Maybe that was the case prior to Y2K, but these departments are fully captured by the climate panic cult now, such as "science" journals only accepting articles that advance the climate panic narrative.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "such as “science” journals only accepting articles that advance the climate panic narrative."

        I think Nature and Scientific American are about 1 step away from "Here's how voting Republican will literally turn you into Hitler". The national med organizations (JAMA, NEJM, AMA, APA) are all mostly captured and push out the establishment/pharma narratives. Lysenko smiles down on them all

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Lysenko smiles down on up at them all

          FIFY

    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

      Another moronic thing about hurricane coverage is the obsession with Cat 5, Cat 4 etc. This is a measure of a hurricane's wind speed. Though high winds can cause great damage, rain fall and storm surge typically cause the most destruction. In July this year, Texas was host to Hurricane Nicholas, a paltry Cat 1 storm. It was bad enough to cause some $2 billion in damages thanks to flooding and severe and prolonged rain. Storms rated merely as 'tropical storms' can easily surpass hurricanes in they damage they do.

  43. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    I'm Canada's biggest faggot.

    Chumby swallows my cum.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Ah, it's the limp-dick who got pissed about Chumby calling out his globohomo boos.

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