California Legislature Extends Exhausted Homebuyer Subsidies to Illegal Immigrants
There would seem to be little added fairness, and little added incentive for illegal immigration, in letting more people draw from a well that's already run dry.

The California Legislature passed a bill Wednesday that will make illegal immigrants eligible for a state program that subsidizes down payments for first-time, first-generation homebuyers.
Assembly Bill 1840 would allow undocumented immigrants to receive up to $150,000 in down-payment assistance from the California Housing Finance Agency's (CalHFA) Dream For All program, provided they meet all the program's existing eligibility criteria and have a Social Security number or an individual taxpayer identification number.
Proponents argue that the bill will make the program fairer: People who otherwise qualify for the program shouldn't be excluded just because of their immigration status.
"Limiting access to homeownership assistance programs perpetuates inequality and excludes residents of California from obtaining a significant wealth building opportunity," said Assembly Member Joaquin Arambula (D–Fresno), the bill's author.
Critics—including Republican lawmakers, a few Democrats, and Elon Musk—countered that the bill would only encourage more illegal immigration into California.
Neither position makes a lot of sense, given that the Dream For All program is effectively exhausted.
The California Legislature appropriated $520 million for the Dream For All program in the last two state budgets.
The first $300 million was claimed within two weeks of it becoming available by 2,200 beneficiaries. The application window for the next tranche of money is closed, and the Legislature did not provide any additional funding for the program this year.
Dream For All beneficiaries have to pay back a portion of the down-payment subsidy when they sell their home, meaning more money will trickle into the program over time, even without additional taxpayer funds. But for the moment, it's tapped out.
There thus seems to be little added fairness in expanding on-paper eligibility to a wider range of people who won't be able to claim the new benefits in practice.
On the flip side, letting immigrants claim a benefit that's already exhausted would seem to provide a weak incentive to cross the border illegally.
The arguments for and against A.B. 1840 are thus much ado about nothing. It doesn't seem to be all that practically relevant to discuss who should be allowed to draw from a well that's already run dry.
Where the debate over A.B. 1840 is helpful is in highlighting the futility of California's attempts to subsidize its way out of its high housing costs.
Home prices in the state are just too high, and the pool of people eligible for the subsidy (whether that includes undocumented immigrants or not) is just too large for public funding to make a dent. And because state and local regulations put so many limits on the construction of new homes, the primary effect of downpayment subsidies is likely an increase in home prices.
Absent California's regulatory limits on new home construction, which include everything from zoning laws and environmental review laws to growth boundaries, California's housing stock would be more elastic and prices would be lower. The need for public subsidies, particularly ones targeted at middle-income homebuyers, would lessen, and so would the fights about who exactly should qualify for those subsidies.
As it stands now, the Golden State's self-imposed housing shortage kicks off fights about who really deserves to occupy that scarce stock of housing and receive the public dollars needed to afford it.
Having passed both chambers of the Legislature, A.B. 1840 goes to Gov. Gavin Newsom's desk for a signature.
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Buried almost at the bottom of the article is the fundamental problem – “the primary effect of downpayment subsidies is … an increase in home prices”. And even there, the author qualified it as only “likely” instead of the “absolutely sure” that anyone with even a smidgeon of economic literacy could tell you.
Yes, it’s pointless virtue-signaling because the program is broke. But even if you fixed that, you’d be doubling-down on a failed solution.
Sounds like a pointless idea!
With questionable intentions!
What could possibly go right?
Giving people money for a down payment will not only increase housing prices, it will install more people in houses they can't afford in the first place. Anyone remember 2008 and the down payment loans for the mortgage loans?
The article also fails to point out that although there is no money now, if the law is on the books then when the program is funded it immediately kicks in.
Hard to believe American citizens are all in on their taxes being used to fund illegal aliens buying homes but hey, anything to get those illegals one step closer to not only being counted in the census but voting.
Homebuilders talking about Harris's floated idea of $25k tax credit are already saying they will just add $25k to new house prices.
I will point out it's a shared appreciation program, which is about the only sane thing of the program. For example, CA kicks in 10% of the home price and gets 10% of any appreciation when the house sells. I don't think the homeowner pays any interest on that loan for the duration.
$5 for whoever comes up with the longest list of perverse incentives this creates.
Hey, this is an improvement! Just a couple of years ago this headline would have been "Now undocumented workers can buy real estate!"
IDK. I remain unconvinced that the blatant “When we could pretend we were helping immigrants it was fun to bleed the natives, but now that everybody’s bled dry and dead, what’s the point?” is better.
The state government of California is billions of dollars in debt.
This needless and unfair spending is just one of many reasons why.
Of course it will increase home prices and illegal immigration. Do you think the press release from the governor touting the new law will say the program is broke? Of course not. What people will hear is "California is giving you $150,000 to buy a home."
Feel the joy!
This is actually very clever. They're obviously banking on a Trump win, so when the illegals get deported, the state forecloses and owns the home. Pretty slick!
And don't ask me what they will do with those homes. Neither I nor they have thought ahead that far.
Probably should have done it under the Original Kid Cager, then. Believe Obama beet Trump in every deportation metric.
What kind of person do you get if you mix uncontrolled compassion, bias for "the oppressed", economic ignorance, and emotional reasoning? Oh, and a variable amount of political ambition and scheming?
Uhm…
… that might be true if prospective illegal border crossers are aware that the promise is empty. I guarantee you, however, that the message they’ll hear is, “Hey! California will subsidize your mortgage down payment!” No one will ever tell them that there’s no money left until after they’re in California trying claim the benefit.
I think that's kinda the point. Now that all the natives are dead after being bled dry, the only other fun thing to do would be to lure immigrants to their demise.
I mean, if you were the kind of person who regarded human lives as inhuman things to be manipulated and/or killed for your own amusement. Like cats.
Yes we know. Using violence and force to keep migrants out is an act of love.
“Migrants” are currently taking over apartments in Colorado with AK 47s, and the cops aren’t doing shit.
I don't live anywhere near the southern border or Colorado, and Haitian invaders have taken over apartment complexes here. This is probably widespread and unreported.
No one is doing that to migrants. But we do need to kick all the illegals out.
Oh, I’m reposting that picture of Jeffy…..
https://imgflip.com/tag/fat+nazi
Nuh uh!
— Lying Jeffy
Sikha today: California Proves Trump Administration Failed to Give Immigrants Houses
"provided they meet all the program's existing eligibility criteria and have a Social Security number or an individual taxpayer identification number."
Huh? They'll give a So-So No or TIN to just anybody these days I guess. Or are the illegals going to just keep stealing a number from other people?
Back in 00s, my SS number was used by a Mexican working for a landscaping company. I didn't find out until I had to apply for unemployment and I was rejected because the records showed I was still working. Took months to straighten it out.
Woah woah woah, Reason actually admitting that illegal immigration might have bad side effects?
This is literally what your commenters have been saying for years, that the benefit of cheap labor noes generally not make up for the welfare given out to them.
It's what Milton Friedman said, more or less, you can have open borders or a welfare state, but not both. But Reason always overlooked that because the draw of cheap labor for big business was too powerful.
If it's true for one program, it's basically true for all other welfare programs.
"There are costs to immigration" is not the same as "The costs outweigh the benefits".
Furthermore, the libertarian case for migration is fundamentally not utilitarian in nature, it is based on a defense of individual liberty, specifically free association and freedom of movement. Should fundamental liberties be subjected to a cost-benefit analysis? If so, then you can kiss our gun rights goodbye.
"The costs to immigration" is not the same as "the costs of illegal immigration".
It's funny how people will literally talk about "illegal" immigration and in the rejoinder, the word "illegal" is always scrubbed.
Jeffy does that. Because he’s a liar.
Legals good and illegals bad? Issue Magic Papers all around! Like the philosopher's stone, Magic Papers will turn dross into gold!
ALL will be able to provide "Papers Please" to Government Almighty!!! Hooray!!!
lol *snort*
Leave me alone with your bullshit hassle, bummer head trip over legal vs. illegal, maaaan. Oh yeah, here's your tax bill, bro.
You were the one who invoked the EVIL inherent in forgetting to LABEL the evil ass being "illegal".
Sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds in general, often LOVE to flaunt and display their broad-mindedness and SAY that they favor LEGAL immigration, and oppose illegal immigration, but if they were honest, they would 'fess up to their xenophobic hatred of ALL immigrants, except for their ancestors!
No one who wasn't born yesterday thinks that the distinction between 'legal' and 'illegal' immigration really matters to your team. The focus on 'enforcing the law!' with respect to illegal immigration was only a motte-and-bailey tactic to smuggle opposition to LEGAL immigration into the Overton window.
Panic over 'great replacement theory' bullshit has nothing to do with whether the immigrants are legal or not.
Panic over 'importing socialism!' or 'importing poverty!' has nothing to do with whether the immigrants are legal or not.
Furthermore, whenever we all point out certain classes of immigrants are actually LEGALLY here - such as TPS recipients, or asylum seekers - you all don't care and continue to refer to them as 'illegals'.
The argument has never been about their technical legal status. That was always a ruse. The argument has been about whether they ought to be here AT ALL, legally or not.
So when you are finally honest enough to admit it then maybe we can have a productive discussion.
Speaking of being honest:
Just give us a number Jeff. How many rapes and murders are ok, and how much of our money are you willing to spend on illegals?
Until you provide a number we must assume that you will accept no limits. You can expect people to continue mocking you.
You are pathetic and weak.
Foreigners do not have any "fundamental liberty" to enter and remain in our country without our consent. To assent to that would mean that a libertarian, or even relatively free and prosperous, nation could not exist in our present world. As I've said often here, following libertarian principles over a cliff accomplishes nothing to advance liberty.
NEWBORN BABIES do not have any “fundamental liberty” to enter and remain in our country without our consent! Birthing (reproduction) permits all around! Otherwise... They take our resources and jerbs!!! AND our collectively owned mamma's milk!!!
Twat, fundamentally here, is the difference?
Foreigners do not have any “fundamental liberty” to enter and remain in our country without our consent.
Fine. Then I grant myself veto power over who can enter and leave your property. If you invite people onto your property that I deem as "nice people" then I will permit them to enter. But if you invite people onto your property that I deem as "mean people" then I will use force to prevent them from entering your property. Sound good to you? No? Because that is exactly the scheme you want government to have with respect to everyone's property. You think Kamalamadingdong should have veto power over who can enter and leave your property. Who knew you were such a socialist!
You may invite anyone you wish onto your property (not that you will ever actually own any). If they are foreigners, then they must enter and remain in the country according to the rules we set through our democratic republican government. Millions of foreign visitors do so every year. Once they are here legally, they may visit anyone they wish. No one will use any force against you or your foreign guests to stop that. This isn't complicated.
Should fundamental liberties be subjected to a cost-benefit analysis?
Should catastrophic costs from extending "fundamental liberties" to the whole fucking world be considered before doing so? Should we sacrifice what liberty and prosperity we have, and turn our country into just another shithole, in order to virtue-signal how purely Libertarian we are? Retards like Jeffy and Fiona would say yes.
Should catastrophic costs from extending “fundamental liberties” to the whole fucking world be considered before doing so?
Well, of course. But that is an issue of pragmatic implementation. That is not an issue of fundamental principles.
For example, in this country, we have (more or less) freedom of movement. But, if everyone chose to drive on the streets however they chose, it would be chaos and the streets would be full of car wrecks. Therefore, we have a system of traffic rules designed to protect this freedom of movement in a more or less rational way. We don't say, "trying to regulate millions of people driving on the roads is just too hard, therefore let's prevent anyone from driving on the roads!"
You're refuting yourself. That analogous "chaos in the streets" is exactly what we have now at the border. Unvetted, unchosen foreigners are pouring in by the millions with no rules enforced, ruining the opportunities for legitimate immigrants.
Should we sacrifice what liberty and prosperity we have
Why would it be a sacrifice to extend the blessings of liberty?
It would only be a 'sacrifice' if you think that foreigners wouldn't adopt the principles of liberty. Sure I don't think very many are going to become doctrinaire libertarians, but I do think they will, more or less, assimilate into the American mainstream. Proof: about 200 years of successfully doing so.
If you think that liberty is such a hard sell and that if foreigners come here they will start some sort of revolution or something, then the American experiment is doomed anyway.
50 First Dates with Jeffy.
Since marxist cunts like you are robbing me to pay for it, yes. If their rights didn't infringe on me then no problem but that's not what we're talking about is it you dishonest POS.
Again, in the current world we live in, the only way to achieve your ideal of 100% freedom of movement is to abolish borders altogether. Otherwise, governments get to control their territories and decide who enters and leaves.
Normally I’d say I don’t think most people want a One World Government, but the response to Covid disabused me of such a notion.
the only way to achieve your ideal of 100% freedom of movement is to abolish borders altogether.
Not true, for the same reason the United States exists – we have freedom of movement among the states, and yet the borders between the states are not abolished.
It only means understand what a border truly represents. It is the extent of a certain sovereign's jurisdiction. That's it. A border is not a prison wall.
Otherwise, governments get to control their territories and decide who enters and leaves.
Okay, so who actually owns all the land? The government, or the private property owners?
Because your argument only makes sense from a libertarian perspective if the government is the actual property owner that owns all the land and can decide for everyone who enters and leaves, just like any private property owner. If that’s the case, then what you describe is basically a type of socialistic feudalism. Count me out.
This is how the Lew Rockwell strain of libertarianism is fundamentally inconsistent. On the one hand, they claim that government ownership of land is unjust because it was acquired by theft. But on the other hand, they want strict border security, implicitly justified by government owning all the land.
A libertarianism that ignores the fact that the world is divided into nations with governments through which we make collective decisions is a childish fantasy. We exercise our rights as a nation through our democratic republican government. Who owns the land is irrelevant.
I agree. If the costs of illegal immigration are less than the benefits, they are not, then that would be a different thing but there is no legitimate study suggesting this.
I'm not aware of Reason ever taking that specific position. At most they do point to Friedman's quote.
OTOH, read "Open Borders" by Bryan Caplan. He cites evidence that immigrants use surprisingly little welfare and social services. Their contribution to society vastly outweighs their costs. Your typical immigrant, legal or otherwise, wants to work hard and earn a living, not loaf on the public dime.
It's pretty simple. Gavin Newsom and California Democrats are feckless morons.
Absent California's regulatory limits on new home construction, which include everything from zoning laws and environmental review laws to growth boundaries, California's housing stock would be more elastic and prices would be lower.
Not really. The core part of freezing CA housing stock is Prop 13. 85% of CA housing stock was built before 1990. That older stock is the housing that is most likely to be rebuilt and produce more supply. But it won't happen if that older property has a long-time owner. Someone with hugely lower prop taxes re their neighbors is as unlikely to develop/transfer their property and have it reassessed as someone with a zero-rate mortgage. That 85% with long ownership doesn't go to market either so no big tracts will be accumulated for any large scale development. The 15% of housing stock that is newer is unlikely to be developed into additional supply because its newer - duh.
CA long ago doubled down on the notion that new housing supply can only be built through sprawl. But how much demand is there for a house outside Bakersfield by someone who works in LA?
The regulations are just there to strangle any fool who might bother with onesie or twosie stuff.
Um, property is reassessed on a regular basis. I just had mine assessed upward on a factor of 6 with an increase in taxes similar to that. Most localities do this when the assessment of properties becomes a certain percentage less than the average market rate in an area. What is supposed to happen is when the property is assessed at a higher value overall, the underlaying tax rate is adjusted downward to preclude a huge jump in taxes. In our town the values are skyrocketing due to being adjacent to one of the fastest growing population centers in the country. They did not, however, adjust the rate downwards. What the town is going to do with the giant influx of cash remains to be seen and was not explained.
California?
Sooooooooooooo.....
An ARMY of FOREIGN trespassers are using CA Gov-Guns to STEAL wealth from US Citizens.........
Yes.
It's really happening.
The [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] are doubling-down on their conquer the USA agenda.
There is a FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT to travel and settle wherever on wishes. There is a FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT to keep and bear arms. Therefore, defending ourselves against the invasion of a foreign army would violate LIBERTARIAN PRINCIPLES. /Jeffy
Come on, man. If we didn't give immigrants all this free stuff they would not come here. And then what?
A lot of them are dissatisfied with the free stuff and are starting to take more stuff by armed force.
People wanting to immigrate will hear the $150,000 for housing, but not the “We don’t have the money”. Democrats know this.
Don’t worry, the border jumpers will fix the money problem with drugs and crime.
They sure heard Brandon invite them in as the signs and tshirts with his picture on it attested to.
Let's see how well that works out. How many businesses and taxpayers is the gooberment in Sacramento going to drive out of the state before they realize their half assed ideas are just that?
Get ready for another exodus.
P/S You people voted for these morons.
Luckily the fucking Democrats don’t have any plans to make the rest of the country just like California.
The name of the program is "Dream for All". That took that name to heart.
For fun, I looked up the income limits to qualify. In Santa Clara county (that's Silicon Valley) you qualify if your income is below $290,000.
Santa Clara is a very expensive place to live with very high salaries and even here, that's a lot of money. I'd guess it's only excluding about the top 10-20% of households. Nationally that's in the top 2-3% range. In no way is $290,000 a moderate income, even around here.
Of course, my starving grad student kids don't qualify because I own a house, never mind that I'm under no obligation to help them make their down payments or mortgage. If I did, I'd run afoul of gift tax limits.