Democrats Aren't the Freedom Party
Plus: RFK Jr.'s exit, anti-Israel protesters at the DNC, and more...

Party of freedom? Democrats make it hard for me to own a gun. They make it hard for me to get a gas stove or use the dishwasher I want to. Last year, the Democrats in my city tried to implement a tax on every single Amazon delivery that makes it to my doorstep. They keep legalizing weed, then failing to permit dispensaries so that they can operate within the bounds of the law, so I still buy on the black market. During COVID-19, they made gathering for Mass essentially illegal, forcing capacity and distancing restrictions on people who simply wanted to worship. Don't get me started on the taxes I'm forced to pay—money I earned, but can't direct as I see fit—or the fact that, once I start homeschooling my son, I'll have to ask for permission from the state.
So forgive me if I'm not buying the whole "party of freedom" line that they've just now decided to drop. If you define freedom as "the ability to cheaply and easily procure an abortion," then Democrats are great on it. If you define freedom as "the ability to migrate across borders without proving one's identity or putting a plan in place to secure legal residency," then Democrats are great on it (though more hawkish now).
"In Minnesota, we respect our neighbors and the personal choices they make, even if we wouldn't make those same choices for ourselves," said vice presidential nominee Tim Walz onstage last night at the Democratic National Convention (DNC). "We've got a golden rule: Mind your own damn business."
If Democrats actually abided by that, I'd like them a lot better.
In Democrats' telling, spread across multiple nights of the DNC and conveyed by a wide array of speakers, they simply want people to be left alone so they can pursue the good life, sometimes with government assistance (welfare, health care, government mandates that drug prices be made lower) to benevolently aid them in their pursuit. Meanwhile, Republicans—those enemies of freedom—want to ban your books. They want to get between a woman and her doctor. They even, in Democrats' telling, have such a control fetish that they don't want to limit their interventions to abortion, but make a whole host of other things illegal, in vitro fertilization and possibly contraceptives included. And they keep it all organized in some sort of evil scripture, this "Project 2025" book, that contains all their plotting.
Fear and folksiness: The vibe of last night was very aww shucks, politics shouldn't be so acrimonious coupled with aggressive fearmongering about how Republicans will take away everything the American people know and love.
On one hand, it's a welcome pivot from the Democratic Party of the last roughly eight years, which has been co-opted by identity politics, fixated on America's past sins to its own detriment. This new messaging is more hopeful: Politics doesn't have to be so toxic. You deserve better than harassment by politicians. You ought to define the good life for yourself, and have the means to pursue it.
Unfortunately, it's all a sham. It's not that these Democrats believe, deep in their hearts, that people should truly be left alone; it's that they want the right people meddling, not the wrong ones. They want to be able to decide which causes are righteous and just. They want to define what a good life consists of, and use the power of the state to enforce that.
"Investing our very souls into the fortunes of politicians is not the habit of a healthy civic culture," wrote Reason's Matt Welch earlier this week. "The people who compete for the right to control $7 trillion of money extracted from taxpayers upon threat of imprisonment are not your friends. The executives who sit atop the Justice Department, who have control over history's most powerful military, are not responsible for your hopes, your dreams, your healing. Imbuing elected officials with such spiritual potency is a recipe for self-infantilization, disappointment, and terrible executive-branch governance."
Walz is not Coach Taylor. He's not your dad. He's not just a nice old Lutheran from Minnesota. He's someone who, at the end of the day, wants to tell you how to live your life and may in fact amass the power (or at least influence) to do so.
Scenes from New York: "Shortly before a talk between a Jewish author and a liberal rabbi, a manager at Powerhouse Arena in Brooklyn barred the rabbi from participating, saying, 'We don't want a Zionist onstage,'" according to The New York Times.
QUICK HITS
- Rumors have been swirling that RFK Jr. is going to drop out of the presidential race and endorse former President Donald Trump. Betting markets have responded accordingly:
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— Alec Stapp (@AlecStapp) August 22, 2024
- This is a fair point:
Three days into the DNC, there has been almost no discussion of foreign policy. Almost nothing about Ukraine, nothing about China, very little on Israel-Gaza. I get that foreign policy is rarely the number one issue in a presidential election. But this feels like an intentional…
— Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) August 22, 2024
- "As economic freedom increased in China," writes Chris Freiman, "poverty decreased." (Chart included.)
- More from Freiman:
A reminder that far more of your tax dollars go to things like topping off retirement incomes and paying interest on debt than to things like SNAP benefits
— Chris Freiman (@cafreiman) August 22, 2024
- "The [anti-Israel DNC] protesters were, if you'll excuse my vulgarity, what my late ex used to call 'young, dumb, and full of cum,'" writes Nancy Rommelmann for Reason. "They were horny for confrontation, and if that meant getting in the faces of some of the cops, they'd do it. Which they did, creating a maybe three-minute scuffle during which several protesters were arrested before everybody went back to their places. It was utterly bizarre—an over-orchestrated rebellion where nothing new happened. Maybe it was our fault for paying attention. During the downtime—which was almost the whole time—I spoke with reporters from The New York Times, the New York Post, ABC, and other outlets: Had social justice protesting jumped the shark? And were those of us covering it chewing on little more than chum?"
- "Hungary suggested it might start transporting migrants who show up at its border straight to Brussels unless it can resolve a dispute with the European Union on penalties for its asylum policies," reports Bloomberg. (For context: "The European Court of Justice has slapped a €200 million ($223 million) penalty, plus an extra €1 million daily fine, on the country for Prime Minister Viktor Orban's non-compliance with the court's earlier judgment on the protection of asylum seekers.")
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Party of freedom?
Freedom from Decision Party
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Eastasia or Eurasia?
Euthanasia!
Canada, is that you?
WAR IS PEACE - "Freedom for Palestine!"
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY - "Who needs 19 brands of deodorant?"
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH - "You don't get to define what makes me a woman!"
All things that have been said by speakers at the DNC.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
Devo also had a very good song with lyrics that aptly describe so many in the Republican Party:
“Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid.
Happier than you and me.
Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid.
One chromosome too many.”
Mongoloids are good people. The same can't be said of Democrats.
It's been nice getting a little bit for fresh air from Liz. Too bad she went against the Koch and will probably be fired
There’s a Devo song for that, “Freedom of Choice”.
“Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom from choice
Is what you want”
'When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong, every single time.'
Elder in 'The Giver', patron saint of Democrats
You forgot freedom from responsibility. And maybe reality.
Freedom from pregnancy and monkey pox.
My lack of gay sex protects you, your lack of gay sex protects me.
But what about the freedom from a lack of gay sex?
There’s always Disney movies.
Democrats make it hard for me to own a gun. They make it hard for me to get a gas stove or use the dishwasher I want to.
These are freedoms we've all agreed are bad for the collective.
Shut up and get on the train.
…and eat your MyBugz.
Who agreed?
The collective, duh.
In Minnesota, we respect our neighbors and the personal choices they make, even if we wouldn't make those same choices for ourselves...
Tattling Tim, ladies and gentlemen.
Mind your own damn business… and the survival of everyone’s grandma by protecting her from everyone else’s breathing habits is everyone’s damn business. My damn business protects you, your damn business protects me.
What happened to government is the things we do together?
The "we" is rather fine, Watson, is it not?
Plus it’s such a glittering generality. I don’t have to respect someone’s decision to cut their kid’s genitals off. I don’t have to respect their demands to celebrate that decision. And I certainly don’t have to respect their “personal choice” to demonize white people, nor their fake “systems of oppresion” cultural construct they employ to justify it.
There’s absolutely nothing about the left worth respecting or tolerating. When they say, "mind your own damn business" what they really mean is "let us subvert and destroy your society or else."
Elite ideas are superior.
Little boys need to be able to choose between pads and tampons.
"Investing our very souls into the fortunes of politicians is not the habit of a healthy civic culture,"…
1000 times this.
Skepticism of the government is the healthy state.
This^
The vibe of last night was very aww shucks, politics shouldn't be so acrimonious coupled with aggressive fearmongering...
So they do kinda remember getting the other guy shot.
Beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing.
"Don't worry about party politics. Vote Patriotic American!"
“Don’t worry about party politics. Let me worry about party politics”.
No they don't, that's been memoryholed. Democrats have always played the duplicitous game of claiming to put politics aside and unite the country while simultaneously demonizing the opposition.
Stop pouncing on culture war issues!
Like I've said before, it's a Maoist unity-criticism-unity dialectic. Which shouldn't be a surprise given that Tampon Timmy loves him some Chinese Communists.
I wonder if they told him how huge his penis is.
Unlike Tampon Timmy, his opponents have actually fathered several children, so the relative size of his ding-a-ling isn't really a mark of evolutionary advancement.
Was that a reference to the South Park episode about "Chimpokemon" where Randy goes to Japan? They distract him from addressing his issue by telling him how huge his dick is compared to "small, small Japanese penis."
it’s a Maoist unity-criticism-unity dialectic
The old compliment sandwich?
Basically, marxists appeal to a desire for unity, then employ critique of the old "bourgeois" systems to emerge in a new socialist unity.
That's not hyperbole, either, it's how Mao outlined the dialectic. It's why you hear these left-wing assholes lament any pushback from the right as "divisive," which the idiots on the center-right fall for every single time. If you actually stand for principles, division is inevitable.
It’s interesting that economic leftists play these clips and reminders more than the 2minutes on the libertarian outlet of record..
Jimmy Dore on Walz totalitarianism
https://rumble.com/v5a8pqz-theres-no-guarantee-to-free-speech-to-spread-misinformation-tim-walz.html
Division leads to individualism, which leads to differential outcomes, both positive and negative. And that riles up hard core egalitarians and people seeking perpetual childhood.
This.
Obama spent the first half of his speech telling Democrats how they are uniters bringing people together and the other half saying that the rest of America are dangerous bigots.
And claimed trump has a small penis. No joke.
Well, it probably is, compared to his wife's.
All this penis talk is going to get you-know-who excited.
What about Hunter? - shrike
"Who is this Hunter about whom you speak?" Reason.
Investing our very souls into the fortunes of politicians is not the habit of a healthy civic culture...
Unfortunately, increasingly, our own fortunes are tied to which self-serving dipshit gets installed into high office.
At the end of the day, the government is too goddamn big.
No one gives a fuck if the local dogcatcher is a republican or a democrat. But when you sit at the helm of a government that has nearly complete control over pricing and production of 75% of our economy (Finance, Banking, Healthcare, Education, Military, Insurance), everyone goes apeshit about everything you do. As more and more power is amassed beneath the federal government, the greater the stakes of our zero-sum game of politics.
The true strategic shift- the way to bend the curve- is to reduce the government's control over everything and anything. ANYTHING.
At a minimum, shift more power back to the local level. Honor the 10th Amendment.
We don't want a Zionist onstage...
You know who else hated Jews?
Mel Gibson?
Karl Marx?
The tried to convince the manager to let the rabbi on stage or some other solution that achieved common ground, but they couldn't Torquemada anything.
Misek?
Jfree?
Misconstrueman? Shrike?
Progressive Jews?
Michael Richards?
Mel Brooks?
Mother fucker exiled them to space.
I knew it, I’m surrounded by assholes!
Mark Fuhrman?
Professor Griff?
NICE
Mark Fuhrman?
Oh...you said the Jews.
Ivy League colleges?
Rumors have been swirling that RFK Jr. is going to drop out of the presidential race and endorse former President Donald Trump. Betting markets have responded accordingly
I trust betting markets more than poles.
Like 2:1?
Never trust a Pole to change your light bulbs.
How about to guard borders?
"We've got a golden rule: Mind your own damn business."
Walz's stock utterance should be quoted frequently by those whose business "we" are out to mind.
Right about now Waltz is wishing congress would just “mind their own damn business” about his ties to the CCP:
https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-launches-probe-into-governor-walzs-extensive-engagement-with-china-and-ccp-entities/
Like any Democrat's statement about constraints on community Karens and government interference, that applies only to abortion.
Why does Reason keep piling on Trump while ignoring Democrats? Because they're all leftists, that's why.
Poor sarc.
Poor Sarc.
Zzzzzzzz.
Sarc strawman post #934,987,234,489 and counting.
You would think Mr pure libertarian himself could find at least one time to actually criticize a Democrat instead of running this constant shit throwing strawman.
2nd attempt at this strawman today. Poor sarc.
Pour Sarc.
Sarca, Sarca, Sarca.
I will admit that I'm a little surprised that Reason's coverage of the DNC isn't as positive as I expected.
I think it's finally dawned on Koch that no matter how much he hates Trump, Kamala is infinitely worse for business... even factoring in slave migration.
Had social justice protesting jumped the shark?
The idiots aren't very useful right now.
Right. I think Rommelmann is a national treasure, especially for her reporting on San Francisco's DA recall, and Portland riots. But she is missing the forest for the trees here.
The fact is that these demonstrations draw MASSIVE crowds up until the point where they make life difficult for Democrats. Just as Code Pink representatives got interviewed before every Bush speech, only to be memory-holed when Obama came to office, these protests were NEVER going to get any momentum at the DNC Convention. Because the vast majority of people who go to these protests WANTS THE DNC TO WIN. They are Democrats, and the last thing they want to do is cause problems for Kamala.
Her reporting on Portland was terrific. She just got them talking and reported what they actually said and did without the editing tricks that the MSM uses to disguise their malfeasance and/or batshit craziness. Like the aging boomers driving around in their Subaru wagon handing out bricks.
Because the vast majority of people who go to these protests WANTS THE DNC TO WIN. They are Democrats, and the last thing they want to do is cause problems for Kamala.
The protestors are nothing more than stupid, shit-flinging chimps with no self-direction or initiative. What you probably mean is that the vast majority of people who fund, organize, and cover these protests want the DNC to win, and encouraging the idiots to wild out is going to get in the way of that. It’s why the college campus protests petered out on a dime, because they were literally told by their handlers, “Okay, you’re done for now. Pack up your stuff and we’ll let you know when you can shit things up again.”
I managed a bunch of these kids. They know exactly what they are doing. They have no problem reconciling their desire for "Social Justice" with giving the DNC an easy time. "Of course I'm not going to protest the DNC- they are the ones who will give us what we want, if it weren't for those damn republicans."
To be fair, I have Dem-voting friends who exercise that same cognitive dissonance. Every Presidential election, one of them talks about how much he hates the current Dem nominee because they aren't far left enough, and then he ends up voting for them anyway, "reluctantly," at least most of the time. He votes Green in other instances and was a Bernie Bro, as you can probably imagine.
Did you ever try to point out the error of his ways?
I know a couple of “anarchists” who go out and “do stuff”. And they’re all blue no matter who when it comes down to the wire. They can speak to everything that’s wrong about corporate democrats up until Election Day. But ultimately the real enemy is any kind of real opposition to that.
I really miss the anti-war left.
It's almost like somebody can turn those protests on and off.
Conspiracy Theory!
Trump is favored to win again...
RFK Jr will never have as much power as he has right now.
Trump should make him head of the cia and hhs
Then close them down.
Okay, this is a plan I can get behind.
^
And then transfer Kennedy to lead the CDC and NIH.
Brownouts in Martha's Vinyard if Kamala wins!
Is that what you call the demigration of bus loads of brown people?
I'm going on record to say there is ZERO chance this happens. RFK Jr will never, ever do this. The whole reason this was suggested by a subordinate was as a negotiating ploy. It seems unlikely that there is any cabinet position RFK Jr could get that Trump and he would be comfortable with.
If he does jump, it will signal a massive shift in political alignment, and I actually think it will not be a good one if you love liberty. It might be a short term win, but long term, ugh.
“If he does jump, it will signal a massive shift in political alignment”
Yes and not really. The realignment has already happened. The old left/right, liberal/conservative dichotomies have disappeared. It’s now about conformity/freedom.
You have all the former Republican war hawks and social order types like Boot, French, Goldberg, Kristol, Cheney, Bolton, Mattis, etc. flocking to the Democrats.
Meanwhile you have a whole bunch of pro-freedom lefties like Greenwald, Brand, Gabbard, Taibbi, Bret Weinstein, etc. heading over to Trump.
It’s now about conformity/freedom.
I would say that it's more about technocratic managerialism/local communitarianism, although I realize these are probably distinctions without much of a difference.
"Freedom" to castrate your teenage son because he's been brainwashed or traumatized by groomers into thinking he's a girl isn't really the kind of freedom that stable, high-trust societies indulge in.
The "freedom" to fuck (up) your kid is a new niche issue for progressives. But like the classic cases belli, abortion, it mostly serves to rile up the troops, not to celebrate liberty.
It's pretty fucking amazing because they spent so many years arguing that religion must absolutely be kept out of schools and public policy because all it does is fuck kids up.
Some religions are more equal than others.
The war hawks you mentioned are all Trotskyite neo-cons, many of them Zionists.
Zionism is no one's friend.
Me and Zionism go for beer and pork rinds every Tuesday and all you can eat shrimp on Thursdays.
"It’s now about conformity/freedom."
No, it is about unbridled populism versus unbridled authoritarianism. While I certainly prefer populism to Authoritarianism, it should not be confused with freedom. Mobs often make very, very anti-liberty choices.
"unbridled populism"
No. That's what the DNC is selling pre-2013 liberalism as.
Think about all the stances that you've seen railed against as far-right populism lately. Which ones weren't considered liberal and democratic even ten years ago?
Which ones can honestly be called "populism" aside from being merely popular?
Colorblindness? Two sexes? Border controls? Free speech? No to war?
It seems unlikely that there is any cabinet position RFK Jr could get that Trump and he would be comfortable with.
I don't know, I can easily see him getting installed as the head of Health and Human Services at the minimum. And he can also make a pitch for Secretary of State by stating, "unlike Nikki Haley, I won't stab you in the back to appease the neocons. I want to shut down our foreign military bullshit as much as you do."
Okay, here is where my knowledge of RFK stops. I have a hard time believing a Kennedy is anti-war, other than as a campaign tactic when the Chief Warmonger is a Republican. Has he really made anti-war movements?
He was critical of our role in Ukraine right from the start.
As R-Mac said he called the Russo-Ukrainian War "a U.S. war against Russia" and said the war's goal was to "sacrifice the flower of Ukrainian youth in an abattoir of death and destruction for the geopolitical ambition of the neocons".
He was also against Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Kennedys migrated over to being anti-war when the protests against Vietnam went nuclear. RFK campaigned on it when he ran in 1968, and Ted was consistently against most defense spending.
Yes but that was only when they were fighting with a republican administration. Ted Kennedy supported the war in Bosnia.
Actually I like the idea of him as CIA Chief... or homeland security.
Do not ever put a former Democrat demagogue like that in charge of federal enforcers.
Three days into the DNC, there has been almost no discussion of foreign policy.
For Democrats with a national news media in their pockets, the less said the better.
There, it should be noted, ain't been much talking about domestic policy, either.
What little that has been said has been walked back.
The "Trust Us, It Will Be AWESOME!" Convention.
Glad they are not cultists.
No orange guy, right?
We have to vote her in to find out.
To find out what's in her now. We know what was in her in the past.
Three days into the DNC, there has been almost no discussion of foreign policy
Somehow the DNC has to convince their mouth breathing, loyal constituents that everything in the party is just fine. No coup just took place, nope, Biden just bravely and joyfully conceded the presidency to the most unpopular candidate the fucking Democrats have ever ran. Trump has a better chance of winning than ever before, and the last thing the Democrats need is their dependable, low info voters getting confused and not voting for whoever the fuck Kamala and Walz are. Obama, the BS King himself, was pulled away from his cocktail parties to facilitate, so it’s clear they’re taking confusion in the ranks seriously.
Kamala Harris and foreign policy? They’ll let her know what her policies are via teleprompter as required. They’ll just need to train her to not cackle at the nonsense she’ll be required to recite on the fly.
Unconstitutional wars and drone bombings. Money for all military contractors. 10% for the big girl.
"As economic freedom increased in China," writes Chris Freiman, "poverty decreased."
How do you say doy in Chinese?
You don't, there are no mistakes to doy over in Xi Jinping's perfectly planned utopia.
...an over-orchestrated rebellion where nothing new happened. Maybe it was our fault for paying attention.
If Nancy wasn't paying attention we wouldn't get that great opening sentence.
We also would have only gotten ENB’s mostly peaceful coverage of the 2020 riots.
It cannot be overstated how important Rommelmann is to this magazine.
During the San Francisco DA recall, Lancaster wrote from his cubby in DC, and Mark Levin wrote from his office in Dallas to tell us that the people of San Francisco were being duped by Police Unions and liberty haters to besmirch the good name of a Progressive DA (who was backed by Soros, and raised by radical members of the Weather Underground). Only Rommelmann took the time to- you know- actually travel to SF, and walk around. She was able to capture the unease, lawlessness and decay, while Lancaster used articles from the NEW YORK Times to show that San Franciscans really didn’t have it that bad.
Soave, Sullum, and ENB spent their time writing about the Portland riots from their blue bubble cities in New York and Dallas. They were strangely un-curious about how a federal courthouse was nearly burnt down every night for weeks- instead solely focused on Twitter reports of black vans. Rommelmann actually went there to try and explain how confrontations were being manufactured by dedicated rioters, bent on destroying city property and managing the narrative through intimidation of media.
That old guard of Sullum, Soave and ENB have grown so soft that they think reporting the highly curated and biased feeds from Twitter are newsworthy takes on any event. They were constantly enabled by KMW who clearly set an editorial strategy of perpetuating Trending Twitter Narratives in order to create click bait. Their pandering articles were so bad that for a time, they were banned from Reddit- precisely because their articles offered nothing but hot takes of trending Twitter stories.
It is a pity, because you can watch the reporting of people like Wolfe and Rommelmann and see that even if I don’t agree with their take 100% of the time, they are interested in digging beneath the Red v Blue veneer that Big Tech and the legacy media smear over every situation.
Don't forget the old guards' dismal coverage of the Rittenhouse case and their failure to ever acknowledge that their friend they memorialized who got ventilated in Austin brandished his weapon at someone while his buddies blocked and then attacked the car.
Only Rommelmann took the time to- you know- actually travel to SF, and walk around. She was able to capture the unease, lawlessness and decay, while Lancaster used articles from the NEW YORK Times to show that San Franciscans really didn’t have it that bad.
Some of the best reports on American urban decay are from YouTubers who aren't doing anything more than traveling to these shitholes and talking to randos.
I have to agree. Those two are out in the field doing the job. Worthy of respect, for sure. Good writers, too.
Is this some kind of dog whistle distraction?
Is this supposed to make me think SNAP benefits are harmless and I should ignore that they are part of the reason why the debt and its interest are so high?
The worst thing about government is how it engenders dependence on government, and makes personal responsibility and accountability seem anti-social.
Is this some kind of dog whistle distraction?
I think you’re misreading it, but I could be wrong. Dog whistle
distractionattention. If you’re a bleeding heart liberal who thinks the government’s job is to help blind beggars and keep orphans in soup, that’s not what the government actually does and where the majority of money goes. The majority is flushed down the toilet on interest on debts owed and making sure old people who tied us all into the Social Security boat anchor get the tippiest-toppiest rate of return before the whole thing sinks.Every gas station with 5 miles of my place has "No EBT accepted" signs at checkout.
All the gas stations here accept EBT =/ Same with fast food joints.
I'm reading into it —
* topping off pensions and paying interest on the national debt (implication: bad)
— contrasted with —
* SNAP benefits (implication: good)
Now maybe they intended the reverse implications. Oh wait, that would still not make sense.
The point is, they contrast the two, as if they are unrelated, and that is not the case.
The point is, they contrast the two, as if they are unrelated, and that is not the case.
No. They ranked the two according to dollars, implicitly a related pool of dollars. You contrasted them.
No good/bad (necessarily) implied. Rather explicitly “If you think the government is spending your money doing X, that’s incorrect, they’re really spending it doing Y.” Any implication of good/bad being 2nd or 3rd hand… implied.
Whether you think treating the blind and feeding orphans is good or bad, that’s not the majority what the government does/is doing.
As you say, you are reading into it.
Nope, he's contrasting them. "than" isn't just filler. He didn't say "from expensive shit to cheap shit". He said "more to expensive shit than cheap shit", and that's a comparison.
Even by your own interpretation, he picked objectional expensive shit to compare with beneficial cheap shit. Medicare costs more than the interest, and SNAP is not the cheapest program; he wasn't going from most expensive down to cheapest.
Even by your own interpretation, he picked objectional expensive shit to compare with beneficial cheap shit.
Did I or he use the words “objectional” or “beneficial”. Effectively, literally, and directly comparing/contrasting them or did he, or I, just say more money goes here than there, which isn't contrasting them as much as contrasting the spending between them?
You say “by your own interpretation” and then inject words words and concepts that nobody except you is using.
This is after you literally said “I’m reading into it… implication: bad
… implication: good”
The laughably, progressively retardedly insane thing is… why do you care or what difference does it make? An equally valid and arguably more direct interpretation of the guy’s statement is that we should, somehow, pay down the debt presumably by restructuring/reforming (or eliminating) social security somehow. Are you arguing that we shouldn’t do any of that unless we *also* do something about SNAP or prioritize SNAP first?
At best your dispute is pointless about personal taste. At worst, you sound like some of the retarded sensitivity/pet cause writers around here suggesting “We should open the borders now and figure out welfare later.”
Oh for Pete's sake! Using "than" makes it a comparison, not a list.
Why do I care? Onemay as well ask, Why do you care?
Does saying I interpret it or read into it mean no one else does, that you, for instance, don't interpret it or read into it?
Good God Man, stop quibbling like a lawyer.
Using “than” makes it a comparison, not a list.
This is really getting into sarcasmic levels of stupid. The two are not mutually exclusive.
If I say a cow is bigger than a dog is bigger than a hamster, I haven't made any sort of moral or value contrasting of cows and hamsters. If I say more money was spent on the cow than the hamster, I haven't actually compared the cow and the hamster as much as I've compared the relative spending and your assertion that I'm comparing the cow and the hamster is between wrong and itself a stupid distraction from what's *actually* being compared.
Why do I care? Onemay as well ask, Why do you care?
Because someone is quite plausibly saying "We should reduce the debt." and is actually implicitly suggesting a prioritization against spending or debt and in favor of some form of solvency or at least accountability and you're baselessly accusing them of secretly wanting to spend money in some way that you imagine you don't approve of.
Does saying I interpret it or read into it mean no one else does, that you, for instance, don’t interpret it or read into it?
I didn't say anything about anyone else reading into it or not. I actually stated that I may be reading into it incorrectly. Your authoritarian assertion that there could only be one possible way to interpret it doesn't stand to reason on a couple of levels. Bottom line, regardless of interpretation, there's not even the implication anywhere in his statement that there should be more spending anywhere or that spending should be redirected from retirements and debt to SNAP. Without other statements from him, the most reasonable explanation for where that idea came from is that you're projecting that interpretation, which you formulated, onto him.
Yes, you said *I* was reading something into it, clearly implying no one else does such dastardly deeds.
Your "most reasonable" shows the lie in your implication.
Go quibble with a mirror.
You are reading into it, SGT. Of course so is mad.casual. What I don't understand is why this requires so much rhetorical vitriol.
Paraphrasing that tweet, it could be read one or another way. He could be saying:
"While we COULD be spending money on welfare, we instead spend it on Social Security, Medicare and deficit spending."
Or he could be saying:
"Complaining about cuts to welfare is moot when the real problem with government spending is Social Security, Medicare, and deficit spending."
The actual tweet doesn't really give you enough context to say one way or the other. But if you read Freiman's X-feed, it is pretty clear that he would rather have neither program in place.
But if you read Freiman’s X-feed, it is pretty clear that he would rather have neither program in place.
If you spoon feed him he won't learn anything.
Paraphrasing that tweet, it could be read one or another way.
And THAT is exactly the point of political speech, the old motte and bailey. To imply something without being held accountable for the implications. Even if unintentionally.
Tweets are the perfect political tool. Meanwhile, people who actually give a shit utilize a venue where they can provide enough context.
clearly implying no one else does such dastardly deeds.
I said I *think* you're misreading it. I also literally said that I could be misreading it.
Your the one who literally said "I’m reading into it —".
I'm beginning to think you don't know what the word "imply" or "implicit" means.
Meanwhile, people who actually give a shit utilize a venue where they can provide enough context.
I think you’d be hard pressed to find even a venue that doesn’t employ X or some equally vapid platform or format to reach out to a larger audience.
You actually can judge a book by its cover, what you actually can’t do is judge a book by the sum of its contents and the contents of all the other books (or whatever is going on in Stupid Government Tricks’ head) without reading or even looking at any of them.
People were actually forced to contribute to the retirement plan, seems like they should get priority.
^^^
Income was stolen from them in the past. It doesn't make it right to steal from younger generations to compensate them for their loss. That only perpetuates and increases the crime.
Let's say you're 70 years old and your car was stolen right from your driveway. You file a police report, but they can't find your car or the culprits. (I'm leaving insurance out of this hypothetical for simplicity.) If the police offer to steal your grandson's car (or some random 20 year old's car) and give it to you, would it be just for you to accept? I'd say no, it would only be victimizing another person. And if you did accept, does the owner of that car get to have the police steal a third victim's car?
I'm sorry you had your income stolen from you. My income is being stolen from me right now to pay for your retirement. A benefit I think we all can agree will not be there for younger Americans when they retire.
Poor analogy.
I’m all for younger people getting a different arrangement, but promises were made, and it’s only fair they be delivered upon.
I'm biased since it's my analogy, but I think it's rather apt. I get it, you had your earnings stolen from you when you were younger to pay for the retirement of older Americans at the time. You feel entitled to it, since your earnings were already stolen. Perhaps I'd feel the same if I were retirement age now--perhaps not as I see it as inherently immoral. But you're not getting your earnings back that they took from you. You are getting the earnings that are currently being stolen from me and other working-age Americans. And there is no fucking way that I'll get SS when I retire, as the system is completely unsustainable. If we can both agree that young (18-45) adult workers today will not get SS benefits as older Americans, you are saying you want to steal from them (by government proxy) and give it to you, knowing they will never be compensated.
You've basically been forced into buying into a pyramid scheme and are saying, yes, I know it's going to collapse, but I want thugs to force people to buy in and constitute the base of the pyramid to pay me back, and they can fuck off and die for all I care when the whole thing collapses on them.
No, we want thugs to stop stealing anyone's money, and to pay us back, which they promised to do while stealing our money in the first place.
But the reality is, to pay you back, the government thugs will steal from Americans working today. Does stealing from others to compensate you seem moral or just?
keep orphans in soup
The veal of Soylent Green.
A Modest Proposal indeed.
Hungary suggested it might start transporting migrants who show up at its border straight to Brussels unless it can resolve a dispute with the European Union on penalties for its asylum policies...
Ha. Time to revisit HUNGEXIT. Or EXITARY.
I’d laugh my ass off if it was the EU’s retarded Open Society policies that ended up driving the southeastern European countries back into the arms of Russia.
Hungary suggested it might start transporting migrants who show up at its border straight to Brussels unless it can resolve a dispute with the European Union on penalties for its asylum policies…
Will the illegals get free pizza in Brussels? Do they even have pizza in Brussels? Maybe free baguettes?
Will the illegals get free pizza in Brussels? Do they even have pizza in Brussels? Maybe free baguettes?
I guess we’ll see when the illegals start sprouting up.
The illegals will get brussel sprouts, and they’ll be happy with them, or else.
Done right, brussels sprouts are better than pizza.
It is noteworthy that this highlights the primary misunderstanding of Libertarians who essentially say, "Freedom of movement must not be infringed, end of discussion."
I'm relatively on board with that point of view. But what is actually is happening is people get "Freedom of movement with the assistance of Party A, who helps them freely move to Party B, who must now use their property and treasure to deal with the problem."
What is happening in Hungary is not too different from what is happening in the US. Immigrants are being trucked in with taxpayer money and dumped on the sovereign property of others who are forced to deal with the consequences. Except in Hungary, there is the additional indignity that the EU will fine Hungary if they don't deal with the consequences in a specific manner.
I’d say Hungary probably has good reason to not want to be overrun by a bunch of Turks and Arabs.
Have they tried food trucks?
You mean millions of people from Africa and Asia didn’t just “freely” walk to the US Mexico border? Preposterous!
Even setting that aside, these people are ushered by federal agents onto texan land. They are kept there with the resulting crime and strain on state and private resources. And this is done because the Federal Government has usurped the property rights of exclusion from the people of Texas but still forced them to deal with the consequences.
To illustrate just how unjust this is, see what happens when Texas does EXACTLY what the Federal Government is doing, and gives those same people freedom of movement to Washington DC or New York. Now suddenly we get concerned that maybe there are limits on where people can freely move.
It’s nice to see Bill Clinton up there speaking and not some impeached, womanizing rapist. #DNC2024
Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far
You're gonna fly, you're never gonna die
You're gonna make it if you try, they're gonna love you
That flies right over the head of every Democrat.
Satire or earnest?
I can’t even tell anymore.
Satire/parody account–a good one too, by the looks of it. There were so many people replying as though the OP were serious.
This is the description listed for the X account:
We/Us ~ Influencer ~ Asymptomatic Long Covid ~ Teacher ~ Reluctant Caucasian ~ Satire ~ Vax Enthusiast ~ Scholar ~ 1/3 Italian ~ Polymonogamist ~ Saliva Ukraini
"Trump is favored to win again (following news that RFK Jr is planning to drop out and endorse)"
Election Betting Odds has Trump at 50% and Harris at 48.3%.
I still think they're underestimating Harris. The media seems to be letting her get away with this vapid "JOY" campaign in which she acts like she's not already in power.
I give her 60 - 70% chance to win, with an Electoral College total around 285 to 305.
Prepare to be disappointed.
Oh no, she’s going to “win” all right.
2016 was the last election where they won’t have the thumb totally on the scales for the rest of American history, and it doesn’t matter how big of a hated retard she is.
2016 was the last election where they won’t have the thumb totally on the scales for the rest of American history, and it doesn’t matter how big of a hated retard she is.
And, once again, 2020 with the lockdowns, media, and mailout ballots, should've made clear that even back to 2001 and before was more of a "there weren't no thumbs on the scale" situation.
Again, for decades, Voter ID laws couldn't pass because Democrats think black people who show up at the polls are otherwise too stupid to know where the DMV or local Walgreens passport photo center is and such abrupt changes would be unfair no matter how far out they were enacted or how gradually phased in. But, suddenly every registered voter gets a ballot sent to their place of residence and everyone is just supposed to accept that the rather literally overnight overhaul of the election system didn't possibly disenfranchise anyone or enfranchise people who would otherwise vote and work against those who would've voted in accordance with the rules when the campaigns started.
A truly Machiavellian plan to cultivate the votes of people that traditionally don't vote. They just had to wait for the right set of circumstances where they could force ballots into peoples' mailboxes and then harvest or bribe those ballots right out of their uncaring hands. Getting to lie to people that they were saving democracy was just a bonus.
Those 20 million or whatever ridiculous number it was of extra votes were a long time coming.
From the Bee:
Sad: Black People Turned Away In Droves As Democrats Require Photo ID To Enter Convention
"she acts like she’s not already in power."
Indeed, why did she need to "propose" an economic plan? Why not just implement it?
With all the dem posturing about the "last glass ceiling" why doesn't joe just resign now? Boom, no more glass ceiling!
That will be the (or one of the) October Surprise(s), if the Dems think the election isn't close enough to steal.
I still think they’re underestimating Harris. The media seems to be letting her get away with this vapid “JOY” campaign in which she acts like she’s not already in power.
I give her 60 – 70% chance to win, with an Electoral College total around 285 to 305.
If altered to the effect of “I still think they’re underestimating the deep state and the standard operating election machinery.” I’m more inclined to agree. I don’t think Harris is being underestimated one iota. I think the “OMG! She gained 20 points just by not mumbling as much as Joe.” is unbelievable, but not ineffective.
I think “I give her 60 – 70% chance to win, with an Electoral College total around 285 to 305.” only contributes to that distorted and dishonest media representation and manipulation every inch the way a Reason writer would reluctantly and strategically support Biden.
I often don't even know what point you're trying to make.
Because the American media openly roots for Democrats, you think I have an obligation to downplay KH's chances in Reason.com comments that will be read by a couple dozen people at most? Is that the gist?
Sometimes he's sharp as a tack.
Other times as sharp as a tack hammer.
Your projection would be more credible or even just seemingly impartial or objective if you sounded less like Reason Magazine and/or Nate Silver while doing it.
You wanna know what an impartial and objective observer has to acknowledge?
In every Presidential election after the 1980s, the worst any Democrat has ever done is a narrow defeat.
2000 - Gore got 266 Electoral Votes without Florida, and lost Florida by a rounding error
2004 - Kerry got 251 Electoral Votes, leaving him 1 mid-sized state away from victory
2016 - Clinton lost a few tossup states by a combined margin of less than 100,000 votes
That's just the way the map works now. I loathe the modern Democratic Party and I can still admit their Presidential fortunes have dramatically improved since the 1980s.
Harris is a Democrat. Therefore her absolute worst case scenario is a narrow defeat. I'm predicting she'll slightly overperform her absolute worst case scenario. That's it.
You wanna know what an impartial and objective observer has to acknowledge?
Is there a particular Reason why you chose every election after 2000? Chose to call it "every election after the 1980s."? Chose to pretend that Trump who just survived an assassination attempt has no parallels to the last President to survive an assassination attempt? Choose to pretend that a former President running against a former failed primary contender is the same as every straight up incumbent/primary winner for the last 20 (or 40 depending on how retarded you want to be about technical you want to be about methodically picking your statistical cherries).
Considering your SPBP2-esque forecasting of DeSantis' performance, I don't think you're capable of grasping what an impartial and objective observer has to acknowledge than Matt Welch, Katherine Mangu Ward, or SPBP2 for that matter, is.
"Considering your SPBP2-esque forecasting of DeSantis’ performance"
I never guaranteed DeSantis would win the nomination.
You know by now a key component of my worldview is "Republicans are self-sabotaging clowns who do what their opponents want them to do. So my worldview actually predicted another Trump nomination.
I also don't consider it cherry-picking to compare Democratic candidates of recent decades to those of the 1980s. How can you look at these results and fail to notice the striking improvement in Democratic performance?
Dems lost 3 landslides in the 1980s, including a 525 - 13 Electoral College ass-whooping in 1984. Are you old enough to remember that? I'm not. GOP Presidential landslides are something I had to learn about in history class.
Compare that to the modern red / blue map. Republicans, who used to have the potential to carry 49 states, now face a map in which their opponent is starting with a floor of about 200 Electoral Votes. That means it's technically possible for the GOP to win ...... but just barely, and with almost no margin for error in the tossup states.
Which is why I claim the *worst possible outcome* for Democrat Kamala Harris is a narrow loss. I think she'll overperform that. Partly based on the media allowing her to run as the "joy" candidate who hasn't been in power for 3.5 years. And partly because Trump is a historically unpopular 78-year-old buffoon.
Not certain how an historically unpopular person can fill stadiums with people just to listen to him talk.
Dems lost 3 landslides in the 1980s, including a 525 – 13 Electoral College ass-whooping in 1984. Are you old enough to remember that? I’m not. GOP Presidential landslides are something I had to learn about in history class.
Holy crap, how old are you? I was in elementary school that year, and while there were Democrats having their wins announced, it was really weird watching the US map go almost completely red over the course of the night.
Except, red wasn't specifically Republican back then. The whole "red-blue" thing was from a relatively recent map during an election, maybe 2004, I can't remember specifically. But it was the early '00s that the meme of "Red = R Blue = D" started to spread.
Anyway, that's moot. I get Sandra's point, now that NY and CA are guaranteed in the bag for Democrats, that's 82 votes. Republicans don't even bother to try and campaign here. Illinois is dominated by Chicago, The NE and NW are guaranteed D. Politics is very polarized and the gerrymandering is strong anymore. Lots of electoral votes just aren't in play.
The first presidential election that I followed closely was 2000, and that election had Red pegged to the Republicans and Blue to the Democrats. Perhaps that started in 1996 or earlier, but I don’t think it did. I think 2000 was the beginning of it.
My father has mentioned to me before that it had previously been more common to assign red to the Dems and blue to the Republicans. He’s assured me, half-jokingly, that it’s because the Dems are communist-lite so it made sense as red is traditional color of communists since the Bolsheviks (reds) won out over the Mensheviks (whites) in the Russian Revolution.
Interesting
https://electoralvotemap.com/the-origins-of-red-and-blue-states/
Except, red wasn’t specifically Republican back then.
No, it wasn't, but that year it was shown as red.
Anyway, that’s moot. I get Sandra’s point, now that NY and CA are guaranteed in the bag for Democrats, that’s 82 votes. Republicans don’t even bother to try and campaign here. Illinois is dominated by Chicago, The NE and NW are guaranteed D. Politics is very polarized and the gerrymandering is strong anymore. Lots of electoral votes just aren’t in play.
Except that's not, or not all of Sandra's view.
It's a lock and Republicans, including Trump, are self-sabotaging clowns for even trying to oppose it.
I mean, sure there were larger and longer locks on the EC historically under Lincoln and Roosevelt and third parties and cults of personality, like Teddy, have thrown a wrench in the works but, clearly, we don't have those sorts of things today. Gerrymandering is, somehow, too strong to combat the 10 million change-of-address requests that have been issued since COVID lockdowns. And this is all because Republicans are a clown show for nominating Trump when Sandra *knew* she wasn't being a clown by advocating for a much more George W. Bush-esque Republican.
Republicans are self-sabotaging clowns who do what their opponents want them to do. So my worldview actually predicted another Trump nomination.
I remember in 2016, the Republicans chose Trump as their nominee. Was that self-sabotage proceeding perfectly according to the Democratic plan? Or are we only allowed to reach back into the history you don't remember (Whether that's 20 yrs. or 40, who knows?) but not cite landmark contradictions from history that practically everybody remembers?
Which is it? Cherry-picked facts that are straightforward and inscrutable or your 12-D chess mantra that's spotty at best?
Because once again, combined, it seems an awful lot like you're cherry-picking the gambling odds that agree with your 12-D chess. Just like JFree and Tony and ENB and everyone else who was just *sure* that Trump was going to put immigrants in railroad cars and start WWIII because he's obviously a moronic super-genius who used a Russian disinfo campaign to steal the election for Putin.
I think the problem is that some people see the Media's abject cheerleading for the Dem candidate, and their "brook no dissent" attitude, and think that it is the only way for the GOP to win. And so when they see stuff like this, they think obviously telling a likely truth is damaging to The Cause.
I don't agree with this view of course...I mean, it may be true, but the reason I come to these comments is that everyone here is painfully insignificant in the grand scheme of things. If you can set aside the Roll Playing anywhere online, this has to be the place.
Because the American media openly roots for Democrats, you think I have an obligation to downplay KH’s chances in Reason.com comments that will be read by a couple dozen people at most?
Same thing in the opposite direction for your “ideology”. Because you think Republicans are stooges, what are they or any of the pro-Trumpers you so deplore supposed to do? Vote for an also-ran if not more GOPe "stooge" like DeSantis? Sit back and say “Ah, they’re probably right, why even have an election?” when you and Nate Silver say “Kamala Harris has 70% chance of winning the way Hillary Clinton had an 80% chance of winning.”
Because again, it seems an awful lot like, for better or for worse, Trump, Vance, and their kind are at least moving away from both the days of the GOPe and your 00s-onward “Neocons can’t win CA or NY so why bother.” mentality and are making in-roads to the grassroots demographics in those places against the strongholds the elites have erected there.
Rather than just echoing mass media talking points like any other useful idiot around here would.
Nobody underestimates Harris. People do underestimate election fortification though.
^THIS!
Given that you are a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit, why would anyone care about your opinion?
FOAD, asshole.
Attention: Trump supporters!
Are any of you embarrassed to be associated with this idiot? This childish retard who's so emotionally invested in Trump, he flies into a rage at banal factual statements like "Trump is historically unpopular" and "Trump is old" and "Trump lost to a past-prime Joe Biden"?
As embarrassing as believing in the cleanest election ever, government would never manipulate elections narratives.
We are still finding out about 2020 election shit. Like in Fulton County. It has now come put they had to "recount" the total votes 3 times. Total registered votes were higher than recorded number of voters. Over 10000 votes without a scanned image.
The complaint over Fulton County’s handling of the election was brought by Joseph Rossi and Kevin Moncla, who alleged in filings the presence of 3,125 duplicate ballots as well as “17,852 votes … for which no physical ballot was in evidence.”
https://thefederalist.com/2024/05/09/board-refuses-to-have-fulton-county-investigated-for-double-scanning-3000-ballots-in-2020-recount/
The steaming pile of TDS-addled shit Sandy does not care; her total attention is given to hating Trump!
We talked about this several months ago, but I’ll restate it. Some people, and Sandra is one of them, have a cognitive bias about the legitimacy of the federal government. They can acknowledge certain aspects of corruption, but the idea that the entire regime is illegitimate is a bridge too far. They need to believe that certain institutions are still similar to what they thought they were. Any challenge to this belief causes them lash out in some way. Her way is mockery, which makes sense since she ran a successful parody account for years:
“The 2024 election is already over because they’re just going to rig it like they did in 2020!”
“We absolutely HAVE to nominate Trump in 2024 and how dare anyone else even try for the nomination!”
Attention: TDS-addled steaming piles of shit!
Are you embarrassed by your illness? Embarrassed by being associated with asshole like this? Don’t like being called on it whenever you mention it? Well, seek treatment.
Or as this slimy pile of shit should do, FOAD.
(Hey, shit stain, why not mention he's got 34 felony convictions?)
“Are any of you embarrassed to be associated with this idiot?”
I wish he wouldn’t copypasta so much (except with Shrike because it obviously bothers him), but Sevo is less embarrassing than still pretending the last couple of elections weren’t completely Venezuelan.
"The 2024 election is already over because they're just going to rig it like they did in 2020!"
"We absolutely HAVE to nominate Trump in 2024 and how dare anyone else even try for the nomination!"
Pure idiocy. Fundamentally unserious excuse for a political party.
Why is it idiocy to call out the election interference democrats brag about? Nobody is saying don't vote. They are saying make it impossible for them to cheat.
Ignoring the issues with the 2020 elections that are clear as day just encourages more election bullshit.
Fundamentally unserious excuse for a political party is still better than both unserious corrupt excuse for a political parth and fundamentally unserious excuse of a parody of a political party.
You aren't even a good joke any more.
STRATEGICALLY AND RELUCTANTLY
IM GONNA THROW STRATEGICALLY AND RELUCANTLY BACK AT SANDRA AGAIN
EVEN THOUGH SANDRA WAS NOT THE PERSON WHO SAID STRATEGICALLY AND RELUCTANTLY
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BOEHM WHO SAID STRATEGICALLY AND RELUCTANTLY
EVEN THOUGH SANDRA MAKES FUN OF REASON STAFFERS LIKE BOEHM WHO VOTED FOR BIDEN
SANDRA THINKS TRUMP AND REASON AND DEMOCRATS ARE ALL BAD AND I HAVE NO RESPONSE TO THAT
STRATEGICALLY AND RELUCTANTLY
EVEN THOUGH SANDRA MAKES FUN OF REASON STAFFERS LIKE BOEHM WHO VOTED FOR BIDEN
No. OBL satirized staffers like Boehm.
Sandra equivocates between the two parties like Boehm, makes wrong "Anyone but Trump." predictions like SPBP2, and, apparently, rants and raves like Michael Hihn or SQRLSY One or sarcasmic when people point out her equivocation.
Yeah I think I know my own posting history better than you.
I never stopped mocking #LibertariansForBiden. The "How Will Reason Staffers Vote in 2020?" link is still one of my go-to resources for ridiculing Koch-funded libertarianism. I frequently point out Biden delivered the main thing Reason wanted: a looser border.
I thought you made a telling point, the historical results since 1980's. It is true. Both times Pres Bush won, it was a nail-biter. When Pres Trump won, it was a total shocker; 40K votes in MI, WI and Hillary wins.
Where do you see the fight the closest. I have said it all comes down to AZ, GA and WI. Would you agree?
Yeah, Trump's narrow-but-technically-possible path to victory is to "flip back" a few of the states he won in 2016 but lost in 2020. A competent GOP campaign shouldn't waste any resources in "reach" states like Virginia or Minnesota.
I'm still kind of surprised Harris didn't select the Pennsylvania governor for VP just to make that state harder to flip. Maybe Dems have internal numbers telling them they're already way ahead in PA?
I do think Harris is a below-replacement-level Democrat so I'd be surprised if she exceeds Biden's 2020 Electoral College total. I just expect her to win either all the 2020 blue states, or all except the 1 or 2 she can afford to lose and still stay above 270.
Yeah I think I know my own posting history better than you.
You realize I referred to a persona and not a posting history, right? This is the internet. I don’t know you. For all I know Sandra murdered the real OBL and is trying to impersonate and replace him/her. Maybe OBL is testing out some Sandra LLM. Fuck if I know.
What I do know is that the satirical antagonism is/was OBL’s schtick and the “Democrats own everything irrefutably and anyone opposing them are just predictable, pro-Trump stooges (that I failed to predict initially and continue to intermittently fail to predict).” was neither part of OBL’s repertoire nor is critically distinct from JFree or SPBP2 or Chemjeff or M4E or others’ idiocy. The only obvious distinction is, as indicated, the occasional lapse back into the OBL personality.
But how is that an argument against Harris winning? If the Democrats are going to cheat like Joe Biden on a cocaine bender in Vegas?
I do object to “Trump lost to a past-prime Joe Biden” since “past-prime” implies joe was “in-prime” at some point in his life.
If you take 2020 at face value, he actually increased his popular vote totals. So forgive me if I think the “he’s historically unpopular” argument is a fair amount of cope.
Fortification helps, of course.
Agreed, though I'm closer to 55%. As disappointing as that is.
Even money doesn't sound like a good bet to me. I'll have to see how the line moves closer to game time.
Back right after the assassination attempt, I wouldn't have believed you. I was sure that the iconic picture of Trump was going to seal the deal. But it was clear that behind the scenes they had already begun setting up the rollout of Harris.
I knew they would pull Biden right after the convention, as it was the best way to reset the media cycle. But I did not appreciate just how well orchestrated Harris's rollout was. The coordination with overnight articles in every newspaper, the willingness to dustbin the assassination attempt, the completely overwrought flip on Harris as an awkward tyrant to "Breath of fresh Joy" was so well put together that I have a hard time seeing Trump win this.
Depends if you're over 60 and where you get your news from.
The over-60's are the most reliable voting block, but they're also still the only people that are primarily exposed to cable and network news, which is how the "Joy" is being disseminated.
Have you watched anything on youtube this week? I have watched 5 videos and 3 had Kamala ads.
An ad is an ad, and people recognize ads as ads.
When you the Most Trusted Newsperson In Journalism telling you lies and you grew up under the Walter Cronkite myth, it’s markedly different.
Yeah. If you think Gen Z/Alpha watching YouTube ads is the same thing as Boomers watching CNN, you may have some sort of cognitive issue.
Especially if you think Gen Z/Alpha watching Kamala Harris political ads on YouTube is the same as Boomers watching Kamala Harris talking points on CNN.
RFK Jr. strength was that he was the alternative to Trump and Biden. That is now gone, and it is unclear how his votes will go if he endorses Trump. I think Trump will get some, but I suspect many have gone back to Harris. I would expect bookies to know this, and I don't believe they still think Trump leads. I think bigger news is that Harris may have a second pathway to the Presidency.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/kamala-harris-polls-key-states
This would mean more work for Trump, who is a lazy candidate already.
Most RFK voters were voting for RFK because Kamala is an evil retard who slept her way to where she is today.
If they don't like Trump they probably just won't vote or will write in Vermin Love Supreme.
Kamala Harris was not in the race when people voted for RFK. They voted for RFK because he was neither Trump nor Biden. And your characterization of Harris speak to a misogynistic streak. Something far to widespread in this country.
And your characterization of Harris speak to a misogynistic streak. Something far to widespread in this country.
You realize Harris and her party have largely given up on this bullshit precisely because nobody's buying it right?
If all else fails sarcshrike can get a job as Kamalas Secretary of Commerce who doesn't know what the BLS is and blames Trump instinctively.
Greg Price
@greg_price11
Reporter: Nearly a million jobs "created" since Kamala took office do not exist.
Raimondo: “I don’t believe it because I’ve never heard Trump say anything truthful.”
Reporter: "It is from the Bureau of Labor."
Raimondo: "I'm not familiar with that."
Video
https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1826378177754935482
She also sounds drunk like every other Democrat at the convention.
Another one of the adults in the room Reason campaigned for. But she's not known for mean Tweets so it's all worth it.
"Tonald Trump"
And to reflexively think that not having heard of the BLS is a better copout than pretending Tonald Trump provided those statistics ....
How the heck does someone with such inept political skills get elected? Even in Maryland?
She is a former governor to boot.
This is why you can’t have chicks in charge.
The crazy thing is I saw the video without realizing who it was and assumed it was some dumb leftist media talking head, and was still amazed at the ignorance.
RFK’s VP Nicole Shanahan on how the DNC sabotaged their campaign and forced them to be a spoiler. She was a Democrat.
“They kept us off stages, manipulated polls, sued us in every possible state, and even planted insiders in our campaign.”
Hey, do you want democracy preserved or not?
A party that does all of that than holds a completely fictitious primary so they can name whomever they want to be candidate is EXACTLY what one does when preserving democracy.
Cleanest election since 2020.
Illegal immigrants are just better than us. And this will save the housing industry.
California to introduce 0 down 0 payment mortgages for illegal immigrants.
https://abc45.com/news/nation-world/california-advances-0-down-no-payment-home-loans-for-undocumented-immigrants-cost-pressures-appropriations-committee-analysis-household-income-assistance-program
Holy shit, that's horrific.
"The state’s “loan” can potentially be repaid to the state when
the home is refinanced, sold, or transferred, with the borrower
paying back the original loan amount plus 20% of any increase in
value on the property."
Get woke! "Loan" is now progressive code for free money.
Lessons of 2006-8 have clearly been learned and taken to heart.
California to introduce 0 down 0 payment mortgages for illegal immigrants.
When a bank does this, it's a horrific abuse of vulnerable people.
When the state does this, it's a benevolent investment in the human capital of Wonderous Diversity.
Relevant since the filmmaker, Adam McKay, is a Colorado shitlib:
Mark Baum: How many loans do you write each month?
Mortgage Broker: Pffft! About sixty.
Mark Baum: What was it four years ago?
Mortgage Broker: Ten... maybe fifteen.
Mortgage Broker: Yeah, I was a bartender. Now I own a boat.
Danny Moses: You own a boat? So how many of these are, uh, adjustable rate mortgages?
Mortgage Broker: Well, most. Yeah, I'd say about ninety percent. The bonuses on those skyrocketed a few years ago. Adjustables are our bread and honey.
Danny Moses: So do applicants ever get rejected?
Mortgage Broker: [laughs] Seriously? Look, if they get rejected, I suck at my job.
Danny Moses: Even if they have no money?
Mortgage Broker: Well, my firm offers NINJA loans - no income, no job. I just leave the income section blank if I want. Corporate doesn't care. These people just want homes, you know, and they just go with the flow.
Danny Moses: Good for you.
Mark Baum: Your companies don't verify?
Mortgage Broker: If I write a loan on Friday afternoon, big bank will buy it by Monday lunch.
I guess they have lots of money in California.
For now.
Does that include potential taxes on unrealized gains?
Rich people, the unlimited wellspring of cash!
This year, 18 thousand individuals applied for the $255 million “loan” program through a lottery, leaving 1,700 lucky winners with up to $150,000 each towards down payment and closing costs.
It is a state lottery that already has 10x more applicants than it can support. If the CA government is looking for a way to get middle class people to hate immigrants, expanding this lottery to include them will certainly do it.
"They're taking our jobs and our homes!"
There is no replacement conspiracy!
“They’re taking our jobs and our homes!”
I'm still a little confused as to how this *doesn't* obviously trickle down to your average Mexican laborer. If you build one of the houses bought with these loans, you've got to know that you're putting in work that won't get maintained and your employer will quite possibly get hung out to dry.
Police investigating maggots at the DNC. No, not democrats. Actual maggots.
https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-investigating-maggot-breakfast-chicago-dnc-2024-1942621
They want us to eat bugs, what’s the problem?
Here's a look at some of the houses owned by speakers at last night's Democratic National Convention who spoke out against inequality in America and urged voters to fight back against evil rich people like Donald Trump and his friends:
When does the equity kick in here? Or is it equality?
I like the modern looking one . When can I move in?
The Inner Party has its privileges.
The Worm Turns: House, Senate Investigate TSA Surveillance of Tulsi Gabbard
What's even the point of having secret police if you can't keep them a secret?
Odds that anything will actually happen?
After the election Tulsi will commit suicide ex-Democrat style by shooting herself twice in the back of the head.
Master troll Matt Walsh infiltrated the DNC to promote new movie.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13765205/Matt-Walsh-DNC-disguise-kamala-chuck-schumer.html
It's not a master troll unless he's holding a "Proud White Cuck for Kamala" sign.
He tricked Robin DAngelo into appearing in his movie. Going to be hilarious.
Yeah, Walsh is going to have to step up his game if he’s going to beat out Schumer telling CNN that Trump has “lost his bearings as we can see day by day.”
James O’Keefe is also at the DNC in disguise. Funny to see what he’ll find as well.
https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward-moment-as-undercover-james-okeefe-starts-hitting-on-undercover-matt-walsh
Pretty damn funny.
The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize and it’s being used with impunity against American citizens on our own streets. This isn’t just a Jewish issue others can dismiss. It’s an American issue.
It is shameful in 2024 (or any year for that matter) that Jews have to meet in secret at a DNC convention. This is a direct result of a Democratic Party that embraces, legitimizes, and supports the antisemitic, pro-Hamas wing of their party rather than unequivocally condemning / rejecting them.
Irony.
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The DNC is more secure than America’s border.
When a Venezuelan migrant tried to get into the DNC, he was denied due to lack of ID, failure to submit an application, and no credentials.
Why is Kamala enforcing the rules at her convention but not at our border?
https://x.com/CortesSteve/status/1826226313847329187
Same reason she walks around with armed body guards and secret service while actively denying the right of self defense to the peasants.
When a Venezuelan migrant tried to get into the DNC, he was denied due to lack of ID, failure to submit an application, and no credentials.
He was, however, thanked for his time, handed several mail in ballots, and asked to vote Democrat in Nov.
Why wait until November?
Why does seemingly every Kamala spokesman brag out loud that they can’t let the public know who they really are before the election?
BREAKING: DNC speaker says for the next 70 days they have to act normal.
After the election, they can go crazy.
The degree of participating in and validating the racist narratives they nominally oppose is insanity inducing.
They aren't leaders who know how to solve problems, they're whiners who only know how to agitate on behalf of others.
The journos are so dumb and broken they’re now fact-checking obvious jokes.
And jeffshrike will use it to show how liberals are truth tellers while conservatives are liars.
Humor is a foreign concept.
Humor aside, in their world, accusing someone of something after the fact, that the flow of time and causality or sequences of events prevented them from doing or even knowing about beforehand, is a legitimate accusation.
Also, to be perfectly frank, we do not know when the Dems decided Joe had to go. I had serious doubts he'd be the nominee well before President Pelosi shanked him.
Chicks and socialists don't do humor.
My favorite part is the conspicuous non-refusal of Chicago as a combat zone and the disregard for the people who died generating that reputation to white knight for Walz/The Party.
I love Walz believing doing undergrad at Ohio State and then going to Yale Law is proof that JD Vance does not know what growing up poor is like.
"Depression increased the most among liberal young women, where it went from 15% in the late 2000s to 46% in 2021-22 — more than tripling in a little more than a decade." — Jean Twenge
I'm honestly surprised it was that low in the late 2000s. Liberal women are the most insane demographic in the country.
It's a social disease. It's "hip" to be depressed now. The more the chicks blab on about it, the more of it there will be.
Don’t suppose it’s connected to the other trend of men pretending to be women.
• Just 72 percent of young Democrats identified as "heterosexual or straight," compared with 89 percent of young Republicans
89% is actually pretty low.
7.1% of adults identify as something other than heterosexual. You gotta figure the rest are just DTF anything.
They need to have more scream-into-the-air sessions.
Young Democrats are abnormally nervous, depressed, bisexual, and eager to defund the police, according to a new poll from the Harvard Kennedy School of Politics.
The poll asked respondents between the ages of 18 and 29 how often they had experienced a certain emotion or problem over the past two weeks, and the results among Democrats were rather shocking. Here's how young Democrats reported feeling "at least several days" over that period:
• 61 percent reported feeling "nervous, anxious, or on edge"
• 57 percent said they had "trouble relaxing"
• 55 percent said they felt "unsafe"
• 52 percent reported feeling "down, depressed, or hopeless"
• 49 percent said they felt "little interest or pleasure in doing things"
• 47 percent said they experienced "loneliness"
• 46 percent reported "feeling afraid as if something awful might happen"
• 27 percent said they had entertained "thoughts that [they] would be better off dead" or "thoughts of hurting [themselves] in some way"
That doesn't seem very healthy. And in case you were wondering: Yes, those numbers were significantly smaller among young Republicans. Despite feeling nervous and unsafe all the time, nearly 4 in 10 young Democrats said they support "defunding police departments" in their communities. Nearly one in three said police officers make them feel "less safe."
Keep in mind, these idiots have been raised to believe that if life isn't a 24/7 dopamine drip, they're being oppressed by someone.
Well, if that's not justification to censor upsetting speech and send all alpha males to concentration camps, what would be?
On one hand, it’s a welcome pivot from the Democratic Party of the last roughly eight years, which has been co-opted by identity politics, fixated on America’s past sins to its own detriment.
They literally started with a land acknowledgement and separated delegates and committees by race…
Politics doesn't have to be so toxic. You deserve better than harassment by politicians. You ought to define the good life for yourself, and have the means to pursue it.
As they literally lock up political opponents and try to censor everyone, using regulators to go after "conservative" businesses.
“As economic freedom increased in China,” writes Chris Freiman, “poverty decreased.” (Chart included.)
The freedom to have a party chair member on the board of every business? To be cut off from all financing for a bad social credit score?
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A reminder that far more of your tax dollars go to things like topping off retirement incomes and paying interest on debt than to things like SNAP benefits
So all the prior welfare spending didn't add to the debt? What about the government Healthcare?
Who the fuck is this moron?
Watch out, mad.casual's right on that.
Freedom within normal parameters.
Freedom for democrats means never having to make decisions because the government will make them for you, so you are truly free to not have to think.
I've told this story before, but I'll tell it again. A while back I was having a conversation with some woman who was proud of her progressive politics, and the subject was school choice. She was all on board, which I thought was odd. Finally I figured out that she thought "choice" in this context meant abortion, as in school nurses doing abortions. At that point I told her that school choice meant parents choosing where their kids go to school instead of the choice being made based upon where they lived, and the woman freaked right the fuck out.
Point being that the word "choice" means "my body my choice" and the word "freedom" means "freedom to choose."
And you're right, those are the only choices and freedoms that the political left recognizes.
Sarc tells a (likely fictional) story to show how wise and brilliant he is. This has all the authenticity of Neal Degrasse Tyson's "newspaper headline" story.
Cool story, bro.
Dammit. Sarc is single handedly bringing this meme back.
So, Sarc, does “my body, my choice” apply to masks and crappy vaccines?
That’s only valid for killing babies.
This never happened.
"...and then everyone on the bus clapped."
Point being that the word “choice” means “my body my choice” and the word “freedom” means “freedom to choose.”
And even that has to be qualified to "as long as the choice is abortion."
These people really hate it when a woman decides to have a child. A big reason Mark Hamill is such a piece of shit is that he and his wife tried to bully their son's girlfriend into getting an abortion, going as far as to actually set the appointment up himself. The day of the appointment, while she was at the clinic, he texted her to let her know that he and his wife had put out a restraining order on her and thrown all of her shit onto the yard for her to pick up, and then mocked her for aborting her kid.
The problem was that Mark's brain is so addled by drugs that he forgot that he set the appointment for the afternoon, not the morning, and when the girlfriend got the text she immediately walked out of the clinic, decided to have the child, and then provided the receipts after the kid was born.
There's been no indication since that Mark's even seen his own granddaughter, because he wanted it eliminated. It's no wonder he loves Biden so much, they both hate their grandkids.
Holy shit I never heard that. These people really are vermin.
Exile is too lenient.
It’s not well-known, but it's not hard to find shit about it on an internet search. The girl was in porn and Hamill’s son had only been fucking her for a few months when he knocked her up. Hamill supposedly thought she was gold-digging, but it’s really irrelevant as his kid was 37 years old at the time, and should have known better than to be raw-dogging a woman that he wasn’t ready to have babies with.
It gets even worse, because apparently Hamill was evasive and told her the appointment was a “medical exam,” so she thought initially that it was just for an ultrasound. She didn’t realize that it was for an abortion until she got to the clinic, and that’s when the shitstain texted her.
To be fair, Hamill’s kid has been shown recently with his daughter on Instagram, so he’s at least trying to be something resembling a father. But Hamill and his wife haven’t bothered even acknowledging her existence, as far as anyone can tell. And when grandparents are proud of their grandkids, you know it, because they CONSTANTLY post shit about how awesome they are.
I knew Hamill was an asshole, but I didn’t realize how big of an asshole is really is.
Anyone listen to the Theo-Trump podcast? Anything interesting said?
Haven't listened yet but got good reviews.
It was interesting because of what wasn’t said.
They talked about golf and mutual friends and family, and personal anecdotes about addictions (Theo’s and Trump’s older brother), but Theo gave him a few chances to really go for the jugular and Trump didn’t take them. He actually praised the CNN debate hosts for doing their best to be fair and impartial.
Maybe the near death experience changed him a little or he’s letting the Democrats go be crazy all on their own, but it wasn’t Trump as usual.
So humanitarian of Trump. The worst outcome liberals can think of.
But the recipients of DNC house media will never know that.
The Michigan Attorney General issued a startling challenge to Supreme Court Justices who might consider relitigating same-sex marriage protections.
Speaking at the Democratic National Convention, Dana Nessel said anyone attempting to deny her right to marriage would need to pry her wedding band 'from my cold, dead, gay hand'.
Guess she's looking to get another FBI entrapment scheme going.
Another reason you can’t have chicks in charge.
We’re so fucked in Michigan.
As a married lesbian attorney I'm going to need to see evidence that her hand isn't already cold, dead, and gay.
The degree to which she fails the attempted mimicry is hilarious.
As a married lesbian attorney I’m going . . .
I didn't realize you were a married, lesbian attorney, mad.casual.
I'm assuming you meant the "married lesbian attorney" to describe the Michigan Attorney General and not you. lol
> If Democrats actually abided by that, I'd like them a lot better.
If Republicans actually abided by their creed of smaller government, I'd like them a lot better too. Boaf sides. Different focus but still boaf sides. Utter the platitudes but keep expanding government size and scope.
It wasn't Trump who turned me off on Republicans, I had already quit the party before anyone ever started looking at him seriously. I quit the party when they hijacked the Tea Party to stop it from talking about fiscal responsibility, when they hijacked it to be a populist mouthpiece screaming about immigrants.
Not to worry, I haven't gone back to the LP either. The crazies took over and I demand an apology for wasted my donations and shoe leather before I ever return. I'm a confirmed DTS voter. Partisan politics is a mugs game.
It wasn’t Trump who turned me off on Republicans, I had already quit the party before anyone ever started looking at him seriously. I quit the party when they hijacked the Tea Party to stop it from talking about fiscal responsibility, when they hijacked it to be a populist mouthpiece screaming about immigrants.
aye
What turned me off was "compassionate conservativism" which simply meant "anti-abortion progressivism."
And instead of criticizing a Democrat even once the two leftists try to switch to Trump while pining for the neocons of yore.
Here’s a comment you will never bookmark.
Kamala Harris sucks. Democrats suck. The political left sucks.
You will never bookmark that. Never. No, you will continue to claim I support all of the above and say this comment does not exist.
Dishonest piece of human garbage that you are.
That’s great, guy. You can say they “suck” devoid of any context. But as soon as a contextual example comes up, you will defend them and attack their opponents, nearly to a fault.
Example: Re Joe Biden’s secret documents, from a time before he was president, and kept in an unsecure garage. Your response – “He cooperated!”
This.
A better example. He was for the Bragg case regarding hush money. Then when Sullum relented and said it was bad, sarc begrudgingly claimed it may be abuse and was l bad. Then Trumpnis found guilty and sarc started saying how fair the trial was, the jury decided, Trump is a felon.
The retard has some serious issues.
You have an amazing talent for packing the maximum number of lies into the minimum number of words. I'll give you that.
What was the lie sarc? You keep making these claims if lies but never demonstrate what it means.
Everyone here but you remembers your stances. Maybe because you constantly lie about your prior stances?
A better example. He was for the Bragg case regarding hush money.
Except I wasn't.
Then when Sullum relented and said it was bad, sarc begrudgingly claimed it may be abuse and was l bad.
Except I always said it was bad.
Then Trumpnis found guilty and sarc started saying how fair the trial was, the jury decided, Trump is a felon.
Except that I didn't do any of the above.
You just tell lies over and over and over and because I don't want to expend the time and effort to catch them all, your stupid posse believes them to be true.
Wow. You really want me to go post the links?
When I do will you promise to fuck off forever? Lol.
It is amazing how much you fucking lie about your past stances.
Was it 7?
You have an amazing talent for crying about lies without ever substantiating your claims.
And then doubling down on the lies.
"You can say they “suck” devoid of any context. But as soon as a contextual example comes up, you will defend them and attack their opponents, nearly to a fault."
I'm dubbing this the "Sarcasmic Method".
Can you ever make this statement without first trying to throw shit at your enemies? Seems you’re only capable when called out. Lol.
Jeff tries the same shit. Same with shrike.
I can go into literally dozens of articles here critical of Joe and the vast majority of your comments are about Trump or starting shit.
Your motivation and bias is clear to everyone here.
What's extra funny about your and Brandy's complaints about the Tea Party being forgotten is both of you relentlessly attack those in Congress actually against spending increases: Massie, Gaetz, MTG. Rand Paul, etc. Meanwhile you defend people like Kizinger and sound like you support the Lincoln Project lol.
Like I said, you won't bookmark that. You will deny it exists.
Here's another comment you won't bookmark.
Harris has no redeeming qualities. Neither does Biden. There is not a single policy that either of them endorse that I support. Not a one.
You will not bookmark this. You will deny that it exists.
To do otherwise would be honest, and you'll never ever do anything honest. Ever.
These comments would indeed be worth bookmarking as an example your shallowness of thinking, and general defensiveness.
Poor sarc.
Your non sequitur is still a non sequitur.
You ignoring your behaviors is noted though.
Congrats. Like shrike and Jeff you can throw out a generic "they suck" every 1000 posts after defending them or running to throw shit the other 999.
Doesn't mean you are neutral dumbass. Means you're trying to pretend to be neutral while extremely biased and failing.
As I said, you will not bookmark any post that doesn’t further your narrative. That’s called lying by omission. You're so stupid that you think you're not lying when you intentionally omit things that contradict your narrative, but it's still lying. If you were a prosecutor you'd be the king of withholding evidence.
And another non sequitur to ignore the accusation. You literally have done what I describe above 3 different times today. Link to an example below.
You're too fucking stupid to trick anybody here.
Also, obligatory: Aren’t you supposed to have JesseAZ on permanent mute?
Obligatory. He doesn't mute. He is just a pathological liar.
No wonder he can’t produce the list.
We never get him when he's sober.
Mute has a on-off switch you moron. The only time I read a comment from Dlam, BG or Big Mac is when the browser logs me out. That’s it.
Thanks to you guys I’ve really and truly come to understand what it means to not give a shit about what idiots have to say. I used to think that different points of view should deserve consideration. Now I just don’t care. I understand that some people are so abjectly stupid and dishonest that their point of view is garbage. I learned that from you.
Thank you for that.
Sooo… your browser logs you out, and you accidentally read a mean girl comment.
Then you log back in, which turns mute back on. So you now have to scroll around and find the one specific meangirl comment among the ocean of gray boxes you have on your screen.
Once you find it, you un-shun that mean girl, type out your non-substantive response, then immediately re-shun the mean girl in question.
This is how you live your life?
He’s a broken man.
It’s really kind of funny in a sad way.
Still creepy you use your ex-wife’s nickname for me.
You say they suck, but defend everything about them.
Only in the mind of retarded binary thinkers whose eyes see words like “Trump did this” and their broken brains read “Democrats are better because”.
And right on cue. Your first post in an article critical of Kamala.
Lol.
https://reason.com/2024/08/22/the-dumb-and-dumber-of-kamalas-greedflation-narrative/?comments=true#comment-10696070
So? I was just pointing out how retarded you and your ilk are. Your eyes see real criticism of a Democrat yet your brain registers it as praise for Democrats because the author didn’t praise Trump.
“I was just
pointing out how retarded you and your ilk areposting my go-to strawman, YET AGAIN; it becomes more convincing with each iteration.”Fixed. You’re welcome.
You're doing exactly what I accuse you of above which you deny doing you retarded fuck.
"I haven’t gone back to the LP either."
You just hate Oliver cuz he's gay.
Yep. Brandybuck is a homophobe.
Given that you're a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit, the rest of us are quite happy you don't vote.
FOAD, asshole.
I quit the party when they hijacked the Tea Party to stop it from talking about fiscal responsibility, when they hijacked it to be a populist mouthpiece screaming about immigrants.
The Tea Party WAS a populist insurgency, you doofus. It started as a reaction to TARP getting passed and then evolved to encompass anti-militarism and actually pursuing socially conservative policies instead of just giving them lip service. That was the whole reason Boehner and McConnell tried to co-opt and then subvert it.
Every actual political advancement in the GOP since Goldwater has come about due to populist movements forcing the party's liberal wing to accommodate the insurgence of strict conservatism. Goldwater got submarined by the northeastern and mid-Atlantic GOP Yankees, but Reagan had a sunnier disposition and it was harder to blunt his appeal. The most well-remembered speeches at GOP conventions have been populist ones, from Reagan's "Time for Choosing" to Pat Buchanan's "Culture War" speech to Sarah Palin's barnburner.
Trump simply represented the populists finally asserting their control of the GOP over the go-along-to-get-along liberals like Jeb Bush and David French, who put political comity above the advancement of any real conservative policies--because as their track record shows, they don't really support those policies to begin with.
He’s right though. The TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party was indeed hijacked by the far-right AM radio mouthpieces who quickly ditched the original message of fiscal responsibility and replaced it with anti-immigrant anti-Democrat hate.
How is something “hijacked” by radio hosts?
Admit it. As soon as the Limbaugh’s said it was cool, you instinctually decided you had to believe it had somehow changed and become bad.
You always talk about “tribalism”, but your one of the most kneejerk tribal people I’ve ever seen.
I liked Limbaugh back in the day. Listened to Howie Carr on the drive home. Could never stand Hannity though. His voice, accent, and love for country music always made my skin crawl. Tell you who was really inspirational, Dave Ramsey.
Doesn't refute my point though. Fiscal responsibility is quickly forgotten when the usual suspects stir up hatred for the other tribe.
Lol. Fucking ass backwards. It was forgotten when Paul Ryan/McConnel got scared and backed down because of NYT opinion pieces, then assholes like Kizinger started running with the democrats.
How are you wrong on every fucking subject?
Reread red rocks first fucking post dimwit.
And I will point out again, you are against those in the Freedom Caucus against the spending retard.
Meanwhile you support those who talk about ending ACA but when it came time to vote always kept it. That is the GOP you and Brandy want to return to.
Fuck off.
Those strawmen never stood a chance.
When will you become intelligent enough to understand your bullshit you spew every day doesn't work here?
Let’s face it, to be fair Limbaugh was just jumping on the bandwagon there. While Limbaugh was a populist in character, he had zero influence in that movement coming about.
he had zero influence in that movement coming about.
True. However he was instrumental in hijacking it and turning it into another hate machine.
Except he didn't. He may have wanted to, but that is just the narrative CNN fed you.
Did you major in Gaslighting in Canada, or is this something you just learned on your own?
How did I "gaslight"? It doesn't mean "disagreeing with Sarckles". Quit using words you don't know the meaning of.
The TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party was indeed hijacked by the far-right AM radio mouthpieces who quickly ditched the original message of fiscal responsibility and replaced it with anti-immigrant anti-Democrat hate.
They were part and parcel of the same thing, having been influenced by the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act that Arlen Specter sponsored. And why should GOP voters have any interest in giving Democrats what they want? It certainly isn't reciprocated. Given the fact that Specter switched parties after Obama took office, it's pretty clear that "immigration reform" was just another Democrat euphemism.
My point is that the TEA Party was founded on fiscal responsibility, and that message quickly became a fart in the wind when the haters took over. You telling me that's not true?
The TEA party wasn't founded dumbass. It was a collection of populist conservatives in multiple cities and states sharing a common cause. Then, once again so maybe you'll realize it, was co opted by Paul Ryan, McConnel, and others of the GOPe to use as motivation while constantly blocking any reform they supported. And again, this is the GOP you are angry was taken over by conservatives putting actions above words.
Because what you really desire is a compliant GOP who gives the DNC what they want.
When you talk to people in person do you, to their face, tell them that what they are saying isn’t what they think before telling them what they really think and then arguing against it?
I kind of doubt it. That or you spend a lot of time with your broken jaw wired shut.
Have you ever examined the way you talk to/about people on this comment board?
That’s what kicked it off, but it gained the momentum that it did precisely because it was driven by populist conservatives from the get-go, not the old neocon guard. The Tea Party taking on a socially conservative character was inevitable, just as Occupy quickly morphed into a cultural marxist movement within about 3 days after the protests kicked off.
I was on board with the TEA Party when they came out. I thought their message of fiscal responsibility that included "fuck you stop spending" was refreshing. Didn't last long though.
Words over actions. You keep stating that is all that matters to you.
I keep putting you on mute because you reply to most of my posts and you try to bait me with lies. Back on mute you go. Jackass.
Occam’s Razor check please:
1. Sarc either umutes, responds, remutes every day…
Or…
2. He doesn’t mute at all so he can ignore posts that challenge him, and responds with gibberish only when he just can’t take it anymore.
Oooooh! Muted!
High five dude!
POST THE LIST... with rankings please.
So you didn't read the comment you replied to at all.
The people it was hijacked by were the neocon and GOPe you and Brandy pine for.
Anti public charge immigration bankrupting western civilization is fiscal responsibility. Pro non public charge immigration (Switzerland) is not what Democrat sanctuaries are doing (except for Martha’s Vineyard).
yes, both sides, one of which is openly Marxist.
Democrats were not the party of freedom in 1828. Or in 1861. Or in 1913. Or in 1932. Or in 1963. Or in 2009. Or for the past 8 years. Why would they start now?
The parties changed. Ask chemjeff.
Bill Clinton spoke? Obama made dick jokes? No one with purple hair onstage? The SJW worm has definitely turned.
"Obama made dick jokes?"
Isn't it poor form to joke about your wife?
"...Hungary suggested it might start transporting migrants who show up at its border straight to Brussels unless it can resolve a dispute with the European Union on penalties for its asylum policies..."
They'll get some fine beer!
I don't even know what to do with myself I got all the way to the end of the piece and my only complaint would be you quoted that goober Welch but what you quoted was probably the best paragraph he's ever written ... so what now lol
So What?
So let's dance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YTizJcKUlE
thank you for not Footloosing up the place lol
Social justice protesting jumped the shark decades ago, if it ever had not jumped the shark.
The Democrat party has been infiltrated and taken over by radical left wing extremists ie: post modernist neo-Marxists. Obongo set them in power when he was chosen when his entire staff was made up of revolutionary communists straight out of Saul Alinsky's play book.
Harris and Walz are completely in line with the Marxist play book.
If they are chosen, then be ready for what's coming: violent riots in every city, no private property and prisons such as the ones being used on the Jan.6 political prisoners.
The economy will crash to sub zero and food will become as scarce as it was in the old Soviet Union. Millions will starve. Law and order will completely break down, cities will go up in flames and the nation will be held in the iron grip of Marxist marshal law.
Hope you got a plan.
DNC appeals to men not so testosterone laden
https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-dana-bash-argues-dnc-appeals-men-who-not-so-testosterone-laden
I don’t think that’s the compliment she thinks it is.
The soy boy party!
Bring back Pajama Boy !
I don’t think that’s the compliment she thinks it is.
See Michigan AG's "Pry my wedding ring from my cold, dead, lesbian hand." above.
You mean like some sort of carnival contest where if I pay 5 bucks and pry the ring out your cold, dead, gay hand I win a prize?
DNC slogans:
Men should be more like women!
Businesses should be run more like government!
Adult life should be more like preschool!
'They were horny for confrontation, and if that meant getting in the faces of some of the cops, they'd do it. Which they did, creating a maybe three-minute scuffle during which several protesters were arrested before everybody went back to their places.'
And some were just plain horny. How many guys joined the movement of the moment hoping to impress some ideological female comrade and further the sexual revolution?
Exactly! That's what I was saying about the vasectomy van the other day. That dude in the pic totally thought getting snipped in a van was going to get him his pixie dream girl.
“In Minnesota, we respect our neighbors and the personal choices they make, even if we wouldn’t make those same choices for ourselves,” said vice presidential nominee Tim Walz onstage last night at the Democratic National Convention (DNC). “We’ve got a golden rule: Mind your own damn business.”
Also Tim Walz:
“See your neighbor violating my arbitrary and overly zealous COVID lockdown rules? Call 1-800-BE-A-SNITCH. Thanks, Karen!”
Also Tim Walz:
"Sure, some of your neighbors are marching down the street and burning your businesses to the ground, but that's their business. We're going to live-and-let-live and not call the National Guard on them! And we'll let you rebuild your business after the mostly peaceful firebombing is completed, as long as your property tax bill is current."
Also Tim Walz:
“I authorize the National Guard to shoot paintballs at citizens sitting on their own porches.”
This one, seems to me, is the worst one.
Yes, if his "accomplishments" were a list of traits, this is his skin color (the most important thing).
Hell ya!
“A machine gun possession charge was dismissed by a district court in Kansas yesterday on Second Amendment grounds.
The court found that machine guns are clearly bearable arms, and in this case at least, the government failed to show a historical tradition to justify their ban.”
https://x.com/MorosKostas/status/1826656903436623901
What's particularly notable about the DNC is them finally being honest that there is, in fact, a culture war going on, and they're not trying to deflect such things as "dumb culture war issues" like Obama, the Dems, and center-right normally love to do.
That's a pretty clear indication that resistance to their ideology is scoring some wins, because they wouldn't be nearly as strident right now if they thought it wasn't happening. They'd still be in full-on deflection mode.
"Democrats Aren't the Freedom Party."
Neither are the republicans.
Both want to oppress but for different reasons.
What do the Republicans want to oppress?
There's baby killing and castrating children, what else?
what more could one possibly require to believe handing the republic to marxists remains the only option?
And neither are Republicans. Welcome to Russian Roulette!