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Donald Trump

Hacker News

Plus: Guided missile submarine sent to the Middle East, European tourism controversies, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.12.2024 9:30 AM

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Trump campaign hacked, possibly by Iranian operatives: News broke this weekend that internal communications within former President Donald Trump's campaign had been compromised by hackers.

Politico, and possibly other news outlets, received authentic internal campaign documents from a source who called himself "Robert." Journalists were able to verify the legitimacy of these documents, which include a dossier from February assessing J.D. Vance as a potential running mate—a sort of precursor to his vetting file.

The Trump campaign declared that "foreign sources hostile to the United States" had accessed some private communications and documents. Microsoft has reported that Iranian hackers "sent a spear phishing email in June to a high-ranking official on a presidential campaign." The phishing campaign involved sending an "email [which] contained a link that would direct traffic through a domain controlled by the group before routing to the website of the provided link," noted Microsoft. "Within days of this activity, the same group unsuccessfully attempted to log into an account belonging to a former presidential candidate."

"In recent weeks, groups connected with the Iranian government have upped two kinds of activity," reported Microsoft. "First, they've laid the groundwork for influence campaigns on trending election-related topics and begun to activate these campaigns in an apparent effort to stir up controversy or sway voters—especially in swing states. Second, they've launched operations that Microsoft assesses are designed to gain intelligence on political campaigns and help enable them to influence the elections in the future."

In a longer report, Microsoft added that an Iranian group

has been launching covert news sites targeting US voter groups on opposing ends of the political spectrum. One of the sites, called Nio Thinker, caters to left-leaning audiences and insults former president Donald Trump, calling him an "opioid-pilled elephant in the MAGA china shop" and a "raving mad litigiosaur." Another, called Savannah Time, claims to be a "trusted source for conservative news in the vibrant city of Savannah" and focuses on topics including LGBTQ+ issues and gender reassignment. The evidence we found suggests the sites are using AI-enabled services to plagiarize at least some of their content from US publications.

At the same time, U.S. intelligence organizations have received reports of Iranian plots to kill Trump as retribution for him ordering the assassination, in 2020, of military officer Qassem Soleimani. There's no indication that last month's attempt on Trump's life, at a rally in Pennsylvania, was connected with Iran.


Scenes from New York: Since 1996, significant swaths of the eastern oceanfront section of the Rockaway Peninsula have been closed to the public, reserved for piping plovers (an endangered species) to nest. This is along the neighborhood Edgemere, which is mostly black, and whose residents have begun to raise the question: Why are nesting birds valued more highly than the economic revitalization that our neighborhood could enjoy if our beach access were returned to us?

New York City authorities are at least partly bound by federal guidelines, which call for the protection of endangered shorebirds, but they do not codify how exactly that protection ought to be done or specify that entire beaches must be closed.


QUICK HITS

  • Watch my show, Just Asking Questions, cohosted by Zach Weissmueller. This one, featuring esteemed guest Nate Silver, is extra good:

  • "U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a guided missile submarine to the Middle East and is telling the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier strike group to sail more quickly to the area, the Defense Department said Sunday," per the Associated Press.
  • Ben Dreyfuss, American patriot, writes on why Europe sucks, including such great lines as "People in Europe love boiling foods, which is basically the worst way to prepare them. They love boiling foods because of tradition and poverty but also because much of Europe gets scared around spices." But more importantly, he makes the case against clicking on self-flagellating headlines about how tourists are ruining Europe and tells Americans to feel a sense of pride in our own culture.
  • Fighting continues inside Russia, where Ukrainian forces have managed to stay for several days.
  • "What allegiance do you owe a party, a movement or a politician when it or they fundamentally change their ideology and ethos?" writes conservative pundit David French in a New York Times column on why he's voting for Kamala Harris.
  • A new Statecraft interview with Russ Vought, who worked as the director of Donald Trump's Office of Management and the Budget.
  • Wow:

Amazing stat here: "Fully 60 per cent of those surveyed said [Harris] should either break completely from the president's economic policies or 'make major changes' to his platform." https://t.co/ewusNbFnwc #Bidenomics pic.twitter.com/MLDJ5e0EaJ

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    The Trump campaign declared that "foreign sources hostile to the United States" had accessed some private communications and documents.

    Hillary is probably laughing in her grave.

    1. Ska   9 months ago

      I believe crypt is the more appropriate term here.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Office hours are dusk to dawn.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

          And not a single mirror to be found. I also understand wooden stakes and garlic are banned.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   9 months ago

          Sounds like the tagline to the worst remake/sequel ever.

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      When did she shoot herself twice in the back of the head??

    3. Ron   9 months ago

      Wouldn't surprise me if our own government helped Iran hack Trump

      1. JFree   9 months ago

        Iran had nothing to do with hacking a campaign for the purposes of sending useless info to journalists bragging that Iran hacked the campaign

        1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          Cite?

          1. Stuck in California   9 months ago

            That's the democrat talking point, so there's your cite.

            Headlines aren't about foreign interference campaigns trying to amplify divisive messaging -- which is normal, obvious, egregious, and always happens, so this event is entirely in the realm of possibility. Headlines are all about Trump "blaming" Iran for whatever is "going wrong" with his campaign.

            This is the talking point. Repeat it or you don't get your 50 cents.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

              50 cents? I thought the awesomest Biden economy boosted wages far more than prices. These shit posters should be getting like $27 per comment.

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          Hacking to nothing, apparently.

          What did we get from it? Just confirmation that Steven Cheung is little hands-down the dumbest member of the "Trump election machine".

          1. JFree   9 months ago

            Not to nothing. To the vetting info for Trump's VP candidates warm bucket of shit. A warm bucket of shit is apparently worth a lot more than nothing.

  2. Jerry B.   9 months ago

    https://babylonbee.com/news/kamala-announces-she-will-reveal-policy-positions-just-as-soon-as-polls-tell-her-what-they-are

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      You have to vote for Harris to find out what's in her.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        Well we know what has been in her...

        1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

          What can Brown do for you?

          1. Anomalous   9 months ago

            Nice.

          2. Liberty_Belle   9 months ago

            Sad when no credible insult is available, the low-brow turn to sexism as a kneejerk reflex. With so rich a history to pick from such as over-prosecution as DA , to poor polling during her first run in 2020, to mediocre performance as VP ... and what does the comment section hurr durr to each other ? Unfounded sexual innuendo . Reason can't bring that pay-wall fast enough.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Unfounded? Lol.

            2. R Mac   9 months ago

              Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

            3. Anomalous   9 months ago

              It's no secret Willie Brown gave her a leg up, after she gave him both legs up.

            4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

              You can’t fuck off and die soon enough, steaming pile of lefty shit.

            5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

              Right. No "good" person can ever criticize a woman for using sex to gain political advantage. Only men would do that.

              1. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

                Ha, tell me Gavin Newsom didn’t grab his ankles a couple of times on his way up in San Francisco politics.

            6. Mother's Lament   9 months ago

              'UnFoUnDeD sexual innuendo"

              Hahahahaha... OH WOW!

              They fucking publicly dated before she was ever appointed.

            7. Bill Dalasio   9 months ago

              So, if I understand you correctly, the fact that she slept her way to power isn't a problem. Just talking about how she slept her way to power is a problem.

              The fact is that this gets to what should be an obvious point - Kamala Harris isn't competent to be the President of the United States. A month and a half ago that would have been a universally accepted judgement. And the only thing that has changed since then is the messaging.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

                Correct. You understand Democrat Double Standard #7. They can do and say whatever they want. But nobody else can report what they did or said, especially if detrimental to a Democratic narrative.

            8. DesigNate   9 months ago

              Of course all of those other issues that make her a terrible candidate are mentioned ALL THE FUCKING TIME HERE, but yeah, it’s totes sexism to point out she was very publicly dating a VERY married Willie Brown and just happened to land such a position.

            9. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Her affair with Brown is well documented. Even far left sites like Snopes admit it happened.

          3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

            That was a willy joke.

        2. R Mac   9 months ago

          Rare image of Donald Trump, Willie Brown and Kamala Harris (1997).

          https://x.com/LibertyPillMeme/status/1821959436321051087

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

            Which one grabbed her by the pussy?

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              They probably spitroasted her.

              1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   9 months ago

                GAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

                Why would you do that to us?!

          2. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

            I don't know why I clicked on that, thinking it was exactly what you described. It's far better than what I thought, and I'm glad I did click on it. LOL

          3. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

            Is she under the table?

            1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

              Of course!

            2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

              That’s what I figured, but that phallic Pepsi can could mean something too. Kams got a dick?

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

        "You have to vote for Harris to find out what’s in her."

        Unless you have X-ray vision:
        "...David French in a New York Times column on why he's voting for Kamala Harris..."

        1. R Mac   9 months ago

          TDS?

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

            More economic assumption than mine.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

          "conservative pundit David French in a New York Times column on why he's voting for Kamala Harris."

          He's as much of a "conservative pundit" as David Brooks? Which is to say, not one at all. Because whatever he thinks Trump may or may not do, we can be certain that Harris will do 10x worse.

      3. Moonrocks   9 months ago

        Which is ironic because she's been in office for nearly four years, despite the attempt to memoryhole that fact.

    2. mad.casual   9 months ago

      I felt a similar circular-logic reading the "Wow" from Liz. Poll respondents pre-selected to believe Kamala Harris say they would believe her more if she broke from Biden's economic policies.

      Vote for the TBD of zeitgeist and social miasma.

      1. CE   9 months ago

        As bad as Biden's economic policies are, I'm worried that Harris will break from them -- and shift farther left, to align with her Marxist ideology.

        1. mad.casual   9 months ago

          Yeah but, as far as polling goes, there's no indication that it's a thing. They didn't orient the questioning around anything left or right other than "not Joe".

          The only thing we have to fear is the optimism of her supporters itself.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    First, they've laid the groundwork for influence campaigns on trending election-related topics and begun to activate these campaigns in an apparent effort to stir up controversy or sway voters—especially in swing states.

    THAT'S CORPORATE JOURNALISM'S JOB!

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      OK, Boomer.

  4. Jerry B.   9 months ago

    "... but also because much of Europe gets scared around spices."

    Was in Trier Germany earlier this year and went to a Vietnamese restaurant for a bowl of pho. Actual Vietnamese running the place. I asked for some jalapeno or sriracha sauce, but they had nothing spicier than red pepper flake.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      How many braut and kraut shops are there in Vietnam I wonder.

      1. Rick James   9 months ago

        There are sandwich shops in Vietnam-- from the old French influence.

        1. Rick James   9 months ago

          Addendum: Most of those French Immigrants left the country, though.

      2. R Mac   9 months ago

        Had one of the best pizzas in Germany.

    2. SRG2   9 months ago

      much of Europe gets scared around spices.

      That comment is bullshit, though I note that ethnic cuisine in Europe trends to be disappointing compared to say London or NY.

      There is more to spices than chili flakes…

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        There's even multiple types of shrikes.

        1. R Mac   9 months ago

          When SRG moved out of England to the US they called it shrike flight.

          1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

            And threw a party.

        2. Mother's Lament   9 months ago

          We all know Diet, which one is Cherry Shrike?

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

            Sarc is slowly becoming malt shrike.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

              I thought he was more of a Jack(ass) and Shrike mixer.

            2. R Mac   9 months ago

              Jack and shrike? Hard shrike?

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                Shrike Genuome Draft?

      2. CE   9 months ago

        Don't worry, Europe is getting a lot more ethnic food truck options lately.

    3. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

      You went to Germany to get Vietnamese cuisine?

      1. mad.casual   9 months ago

        He's probably got his flight to Hanoi for Oktoberfest already booked.

      2. n00bdragon   9 months ago

        Whenever I travel abroad I make a point to have at least one meal at the most American place I can find just to see how it's different.

        McDonalds is usually pretty exciting because the menu will have slight regional twists to it.

        Mexican restaurants everywhere but Spain (and I presume other spanish speaking countries, but I haven't been to any others) are awful. I went to a Mexican place in Germany that served me an enchilada filled with broccoli and corn.

        1. Public Entelectual   9 months ago

          You should have ordered the piping plover chilli

        2. Zeb   9 months ago

          My favorite European food is Shawarma in a pita.

          1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

            Curry is the best English food in London.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

              Lemon curry?

          2. Overt   9 months ago

            we had awesome turkish kabobs in london.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

              There are few Turks in London. You might consider Germany for kebabs. In fact, a relatively recent food franchise in London is called "German Doner Kebab", which kinda tells you something about provenance.

              (It's not bad, but it's not quite the real thing.)

        3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

          Here in America, Mexican restaurants try to feed me tiny little things they call ‘street tacos’ that are largely little soft shells filled with onions, garnish, and a speck of meat. For just about the same price as a full size taco.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    There's no indication that last month's attempt on Trump's life, at a rally in Pennsylvania, was connected with Iran.

    There was an attempt on Trump's life last month?

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      He fell on the stage after loud noises were heard.

      1. CE   9 months ago

        Popping sounds.
        Some sort of debris possibly struck his ear.

        1. Stuck in California   9 months ago

          Did he ever agree to talk to the FBI?

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Some people did some things.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      How do you know, they haven't told us anything about the shooter yet.

      1. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

        They told us everything they want us to know: he was a registered Republican.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

        It’s totally not “weird” that nothing new has been released about the shooter. They had it all figured out within a couple hours, judging from what I saw online.

        The DOJ is so efficient!

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          Your conspiracy theorzing seems to have failed to develop the conspiracy bit.

  6. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Hillary aide emails being hacked started Trump Russia.

    I fully assume Reason will take on Iran Kamala for this hack and the Act Blue funding.

  7. But SkyNet is a Private Company   9 months ago

    I guess “conservative” David French has fundamentally changed his ideology and ethos

    1. Reshufflex   9 months ago

      The Weekly Standard and National Review crowd still bitter over their stake through the heart, courtesy MAGA.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Reluctantly or strategically?

      Either way, fuck French.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      The tell is right in his statement here:

      “What allegiance do you owe a party, a movement or a politician when it or they fundamentally change their ideology and ethos?”

      What “ideology and ethos” is French standing against here, exactly? He brings up Trump’s gross personal habits, but rather than simply disassociate himself from any political team for such worldly self-indulgence, he aligns himself with a party who’s embodied and encouraged those traits ever since the New Left began taking over the Democrats. What’s more, it’s a false choice he offers, as if Harris or Trump are the only two options.

      What’s most notable about French’s performative moralism here is that the party he’s aligning with really is against pretty much everything he deigns to stand for. He’s a lot like Mr. By-Ends in Pilgrim’s Progress, the kind of Christian who “we never strive against wind and tide. Secondly, we are always most zealous when religion goes in his silver slippers; we love much to walk with him in the street, if the sun shines and the people applaud him.” His pharisaic pomposity here absolutely reeks of obsequiousness to the popular consensus. 2000 years ago, he’d have told the Romans where the other Christians were hiding, so he could avoid getting sent to the lions, while arguing that Christians refusing to worship Roman gods was being "divisive."

      1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

        I can understand leaving Trump’s GOP for it's abandonment of conservative principles. I cannot understand supporting Harris. As you said, there are more than two options.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

          Not that you had any conservative principles in the first place…

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

            He definitely had neocon principles. Them losing pissed him off the most.

            1. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

              … which also explains The Weekly Standard and National Review butthurt.

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

          French must hate gay people to not vote for chase.

          Fuckin homophobe frog.

      2. Reshufflex   9 months ago

        French begins, via the quote you introduce, by question begging. He indicts Trump for shifting the conservative foundation as if it is an axiomatic truth.

        It’s nonsense. Conservatism at its core, as with libertarianism, is about individual primacy, or the sovereign individual. Trump hasn’t disturbed that root at all; indeed, he’s reinforced it, especially vis-a-vis the Leninists he’s running against.

        As the other guy said, French can go fuck himself.

        1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

          Conservatism, at its core, is about opposing the Progressive administrative state, which Trump is fine with when it serves his purposes. So no, he's not much of a conservative. Neither is Kamala. That Libertarian guy is more conservative than either of them.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

            The one who joined Obama campaigns and pushes for elevated rights for favored groups?

            1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

              The one who started off as a Democrat because he was anti-war, but then left to join Libertarians when he discovered war protesters were just anti-Bush. Nothing in his platform says anything about elevated rights for anyone. I can't tell if you're lying or just saying that because you believe he fits some gay stereotype. Either way it's false.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                For the 5th time. Maybe this time you’ll see it.


                JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day) 1 month ago
                Here you go for the 4th time sarc.

                Oliver noted his support for federal LGBTQ anti-discrimination protections,

                https://www.wabe.org/georgia-gops-top-candidates-move-harder-right-on-lgbtq-issues/

                Even kept that one for when you lied about being told yet again. Amazing how dishonest you are.

                1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                  That’s exceptionally vague. Though he is absolutely right that you and the candidates you promote are demonizing anyone who isn’t heterosexual while lying and claiming you don’t hate gays. Aaaand there’s nothing about “elevated rights” on in his platform.

                  https://votechaseoliver.com/platform/

                  Oh, and it's hilarious that you're quoting a source that you routinely dismiss out of hand as leftist when they say anything you don't like.

                  1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                    His entire campaign site is exceptionally vague you retarded fuck. He is an empty fucking suit.

                    I like how you dismiss all information you are ever given. Chase is a snake oil salesman with no fucking principles. It is probably why you are so loyal to his empty rhetoric.

                    Wait until you finally realize politicians lie on their campaign sites. You don't give 2 shits about honest discussion. You want bumper stickers due to your low intelligence.

                    1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                      Your comment says more about you than about me.

                    2. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                      I like how you dismiss all information you are ever given.

                      What information? There’s no quote there. Just that he “noted his support” which doesn’t really mean much of anything.
                      You tell me I dismiss information and then dismiss everything he has ever said except for some vague non-quote. Projection and gaslighting.

                    3. R Mac   9 months ago

                      Poor sarc.

                    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                      Yes sarc. Continue to deny evidence given to your puerile and facial beliefs.

                      Whatever chase has intoned or said in the past means nothing. Only trust the bumper stickers on his campaign site. Listen to his excuses for being an Obama supporter and helping with his campaigns. Ignore the lack of any plan or policy.

                      Youre doing well sarc.

                    5. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                      Why shouldn’t I believe what he said about why he became a Democrat and why he left the party? I live in Maine dumbass. War protesters in Kennebunkport disappeared as soon as Obama was elected. Why? They weren’t protesting the war. They were protesting Bush. Chase joined the party because he thought they were anti-war, and left when he discovered he’d been fooled. Shows that he’s got integrity and didn’t change his beliefs to fit the party, but instead left and found a party that fit his beliefs. Makes him a better person than you, but that’s not saying much.

                    6. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

                      Pour Sarc.

                  2. DesigNate   9 months ago

                    I’ve seen no evidence that anyone here, except maybe AT, hates gay people.

                    The agenda, sure. Because the agenda isn’t about individual freedom, it’s about government coercion.

                    1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                      Not directly, no. But claiming all gays support the gay agenda and hating the gay agenda is a roundabout way for someone to say they hate all gays without saying they hate all gays. Saying all gays are groomers and saying they hate groomers is a roundabout way of saying that they hate all gays without saying they hate all gays.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   9 months ago

                      Sarc pisses and moan's constantly about people strawmanning him, even when they quote his posts directly. Then he posts gibberish like the above, accusing everybody of hating gays. The guy has serious problems.

                    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                      But claiming all gays support the gay agenda and hating the gay agenda is a roundabout way for someone to say they hate all gays without saying they hate all gays.

                      Who has said this? Well besides you yesterday claiming anyone gay wouldn’t be allowed in the GOP today lol.

                      You keep making this claim as you push identitarian politics and ignoring Chases actual statements or his baby splitting on trans medical issues.

                      You are no different than any leftist activist doing the same.

                    4. sarcasmic   9 months ago

                      You managed to pack three lies into two sentences. That's quite a talent.

                    5. R Mac   9 months ago

                      “But claiming all gays support the gay agenda”

                      Cite?

                      “Saying all gays are groomers”

                      Cite?

                      See this is what happens when you become comrades with Lying Jeffy. You turn into a blatant liar.

              2. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

                There we go with the “gay guy” defense.

                1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

                  Identitarian politics is sarcs new favorite argument.

        2. SRG2   9 months ago

          . Conservatism at its core, as with libertarianism, is about individual primacy, or the sovereign individual.

          Bullshit. Conservatism is about the retention of existing institutions, reluctance to change, a scepticism about power and ideology, and and a concern over unintended consequences (which encompasses reluctance to engage in international entanglements, for example.)

          Indeed, conservatism and libertarianism are at odds with each other, because the latter is an untested ideology, which means it is antithetical to conservative thinking.

          People do like their myths, though

      3. Bill Dalasio   9 months ago

        Let's be honest, Trump impeded on French's grift. The GOP as the MIC-aligned junior partner to the Democrats in the managerial technocracy suited French just fine. The whole setup made him the spokesman for "respectable evangelicalism". And Trump came in and put a monkey wrench in the whole arrangement. The audience no longer really believes him. So, he's pushing his schtick to a liberal audience who still happy to hear it.

      4. damikesc   9 months ago

        I guess nobody told French about the terrible habits of Kamala, who blows married men to advance in politics.

        Then again, David is also a whore...

    4. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

      Is he not the New York Times current tame conservative?

      1. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

        I think so. Kinda like the View has Ana Navaro as the token "Republican" on the show (similar to how they had the McCain daughter and Elizabeth Hasselbeck in the past), except she is no longer a Republican (if she ever were). That's the kind of diversity (of thought) that the left enjoys.

        Though if you are watching the View for news or information, you are a lost cause already.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          You watch the View?

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 months ago

            Yeah, that’s what he said, spammy.

            Gosh, you sure are sharp.

    5. Rubbish!   9 months ago

      Cheese-eating surrender monkey is relevant again.

      1. Mother's Lament   9 months ago

        French is a neocon's neocon. He's so neocon even Buttplug has approvingly posted a few of his columns here.

      2. mad.casual   9 months ago

        Yeah, why do I care about the political leanings of the mustard guy?

    6. Mother's Lament   9 months ago

      David French is so desperate to save conservatism that he is going to vote for a radical socialist.

      He's so desperate to keep a man with dubious sexual morals away from the presidency, that he is going to vote for a woman who slept her way into the DA's office.

      David French is very principled.

  8. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Britain to learn from history, adopt best practices of China and Germany.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/aug/10/uk-children-to-be-taught-how-to-spot-extremist-content-and-misinformation-online?CMP=twt_b-gdnnews

    1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      watching them create a red guard in real time

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Do the kids get to wear nifty red scarves?

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

        You know who else created a red guard?

        1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          Snoke?

          1. Ajsloss   9 months ago

            Guard color is the most important thing.

            1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

              This guy gets it.

        2. Moonrocks   9 months ago

          Me the last time I played Morrowind.

    2. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

      1984 is a playbook

    3. R Mac   9 months ago

      I saw a post the other day comparing people jailed in UK vs China for speech in the past year. Forget the exact numbers but UK was several times higher.

      1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

        I guess in fairness, China numbers might be lower because they already crossed the rubicon of "talk shit on the govt and risk death" long ago, so it could be because they either dont need to anymore or its just done quiety, but point taken.

        Neither are a model I want to be anything near in terms of free speech, and a large portion of the country (probably an actual majority) would see us be just like the UK

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

        Were they counting Julian Assange?

    4. CE   9 months ago

      What's North Korea, chopped cabbage?

  9. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    Why are nesting birds valued more highly than the economic revitalization that our neighborhood could enjoy if our beach access were returned to us?

    Because Oprah might want to buy that property some day.

    1. Public Entelectual   9 months ago

      The damn racist plovers are blocking Obama's Vineyard beach too !

  10. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    If Trumps team had SS break into a building he would already be indicted. For some reason someone on Kamalas detail thought it was kosher to just break into a salon.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-apologizes-after-breaking-massachusetts-salon-use-bathroom-before-harris-fundraiser

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      When ya gotta go, ya gotta go!

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        The journalists would happily be her toilet and even report it as rain.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT GENDER BATHROOM EQUITY?!?

    3. Idaho-Bob   9 months ago

      The casual way the dude broke in and had tape available to cover the camera, shows this 3A violation is common practice.

      1. R Mac   9 months ago

        Our federal government is not legitimate.

    4. NoVaNick   9 months ago

      It’s Massachusetts. More than 60% will vote team blue even if their candidate tortured newborn puppies. So barging into a salon is nothing-the salon owner is probably getting death threats for complaining about it.

    5. Moonrocks   9 months ago

      Didn't it turn into a massive scandal that forced the president to resign the last time something like this happened?

    6. CE   9 months ago

      If it was the Secret Service, it was probably for a hook-up with a professional.

    7. BYODB   9 months ago

      That's psycho. So the Secret Service just carries lock picks and tape to black out camera's as an every day thing huh? Yeah, they're looking worse and worse every day. Hope the Salon gets paid over all that, but somehow I think she won't.

      1. D-Pizzle   9 months ago

        Popular tv notwithstanding, you cannot pick a modern cylinder pin tumbler lock (which the lock almost definitely is) with a hairpin or the like. It requires a trained locksmith with an array of tools, and even then, sometimes they can't pick it and need to drill (destroy) the lock. Either they had a locksmith on hand, or they got into the building some other way.

        1. BYODB   9 months ago

          You can buy a lockpick gun online and one does not need to be a locksmith to use one, assuming you don't mind damaging the lock which I'm going to go ahead and assume that the Secret Service did not give a fuck if they damaged the property.

          The fact they blacked out the camera is perhaps more disturbing than the fact their 'lockpick' could have easily just been a brick through the window.

        2. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          It’s not that hard to pick a lock .

  11. TommyK   9 months ago

    The image made me wonder if the tradition of looking at Halloween mask sales of candidates as a preview of election results will be quite inaccurate this year. It may be seen as inappropriate by some (mainly her fans?) to wear a Harris mask.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      Why the proper costume for her is to dress as a coconut tree. Cackle cackle cackle.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

      Pantsuit with knee pads ought to do it

  12. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a guided missile submarine to the Middle East...

    In lieu of an actual president to give that order.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      Harris is busy on the campaign trail.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        So? Where is Obama?

    2. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

      Since when do we advertise what our subs are doing?

      I hope this doesn’t mean Team America is uh, running a little thin?

      1. DesigNate   9 months ago

        New Babylon Bee headline: ISIS and Al Queda tell AP News “We aren’t worried about America right now. They’re more of a JV team.”

      2. mad.casual   9 months ago

        Since when do we advertise what our subs are doing?

        Not to mention, isn't the whole point of the submarine to be effective anywhere from the Mediterranean to the Arabian Sea without anyone knowing where they are?

        One, if they were so conspiratorially inclined, might regard this as an overt, "'We' are assigning this submarine to operate outside the range of Taiwan."

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          Oh. So, when they said the submarine is going there, you're assuming the submarine is going there. Okay...

          1. mad.casual   9 months ago

            Why do people do people try to play this retarded "What if what they said meant the opposite of what they said or... doesn't actually mean anything to anyone?!?" nihilist game in public?

    3. CE   9 months ago

      How do submarines work under sand?

      1. Public Entelectual   9 months ago

        They can't go there because of the endangered sand tiger beetles , and sacred Micmac sand crabs.

  13. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    Jeff's preferred legal system.

    J6 defendant in building for 46 seconds pleas down to a single misdemeanor. Political judge with many comments on J6 uses plea deal to initiate monitoring of all his computer use and phone calls. Defendant appeals monitoring order to D.C. circuit. Circuit even admits that is probably too far, sends back to judge. Judge tells circuit to fuck off and simply restated order. D.C. Circuit denies injunction on reappeal.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/combatting-false-narratives-dc-circuit-refuses-block-judge-limiting-speech-jan-6th

    1. Idaho-Bob   9 months ago

      Don't let them arrest you. The most minor infraction can turn into this shit if you are against the DNC.

  14. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

    "Fully 60 per cent of those surveyed said [Harris] should either break completely from the president's economic policies or 'make major changes' to his platform."

    Or they could just vote for someone else.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

      She literally hired Bidens economic advisor like a week ago.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

        According to turd, he must be a very competent individual.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

        Well, somebody just appropriated Trump's stupid "no tax on tips" policy. Not very Biden, was it?

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    I learned a new term today for the joyful Team Blue Harris tribe: the Khive.

    Like with other Democratic Party language and labels, I wonder if they are aware of what they reveal, or if they just don't care any more. Are people really keen to be part of a hive mind?

    1. Ska   9 months ago

      Hive minds are like super smart and have, like, exponential intelligence.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

        Two minds are better than none.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        And bee hive minds are like 99.9% female. How awesome is that?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

          'Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave.'

      3. CE   9 months ago

        And worship the queen. And all their efforts are for her.

    2. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

      "WE ARE THE KHIVE. YOUR EXISTENCE, AS YOU KNEW IT, IS OVER. YOU WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.:

  16. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

    “What allegiance do you owe a party, a movement or a politician when it or they fundamentally change their ideology and ethos?” writes conservative pundit David French in a New York Times column on why he’s voting for Kamala Harris.

    This is just David admitting he was always a liberal.in sheep’s clothing.

    Ideology and ethos by voting kamala? Raised taxes. Economic control. State control of kids. Big government.

    French is basically saying this is his ethos and he dislikes the GOP stopping to bow the knee to push it.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

      Or TDS.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        Attributing TDS is really missing the forest for the trees. What it boils down to is a manufactured consensus from the top-down, astroturfed to make it appear as if it’s coming from the bottom-up, in a neo-Maoist unity-criticism-unity strategy.

        It’s why the Democrats are trying to soft-pedal Walz’s “one man’s socialism is another man’s neighborliness,” state that people should “just leave each other alone,” and that “we’re all in this together.” The snitch line Walz set up while governor during COVID, his support of pedophilia as a sexual identity, and the communistic language he uses belie the milquetoast, deliberately opaque catchphrases that he and the media hide behind.

        People like French are useful idiots because they’re so easily swayed by the fear that the US will fall if the right stands up to the left. What’s left unexamined is the inherent assumption in that argument that if the right DOES resist leftism, that the US is so fragile that not going along with leftist ideology will result in the nation’s destruction. It’s a rather telling worldview that indirectly acknowledges that the left controls the nation’s institutions from top to bottom, and any resistance to it will result in the left burning the whole edifice to the ground out of spite.

        1. NoVaNick   9 months ago

          The democrats have at least paid lip service to a free market economy since Bill Clinton, but don’t need to anymore because Trump isn’t either. It’s been a fantasy for the left to finally get rid of any support for capitalism from the leading parties, and since that is now a reality, the only differences left between the two parties are social/cultural.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            It's been going in that direction since 9/11. When the Bush wing of the party finally made the shift over to an ideology based on permanent war footing, it lost whatever credibility it had on the fiscal front while inadvertently shifting the political landscape to that social/cultural nexus, which ironically was the last thing they wanted to do. If they'd just been content keeping politics in an economic framework, they might have had more success.

            They've always been horrible at engaging on cultural fronts because they're such money-grubbers, the right-wing version of the original marxists who viewed humanity simply as homo economicus and were driven solely by fiscal concerns. It's why guys like Breibart were seen as such mavericks, because those types who had actually been embedded in the places where culture was influenced understood how they drove the popular consensus. The neocon/Bush wing never grasped this, which is why they parrot left-wing talking points so easily now.

          2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

            No. They haven't. They have been very open that their version of free market is massively designed trade agreements setting limits, regulations, and various tariffs. Nothing they have actually ever pushed is a free market. They just co opted the term.

          3. DesigNate   9 months ago

            What aspect of a free market have the democrats been even giving lip service to? I literally can’t think of any.

            1. CE   9 months ago

              They want college and health care to be free.

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

              Well, in California you can take what you want at the market for free, up to $950 each visit.

        2. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

          his support of pedophilia as a sexual identity

          Is this true? Is it documented anywhere? I'd be very interested to see the proof.

          It wouldn't surprise me if it's true, as Walz is about as far left for a national candidate as you can get, and it's the fringes (a debate can be had as to how fringe or non-fringe) of the left that have tried to shoehorn in acceptance of pedophilia along with the rest of the LGBTQ pantheon.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            Is this true? Is it documented anywhere? I’d be very interested to see the proof.

            He had language removed from the sexual orientation bill that Minnesota passed which said that being a pedophile wasn't a sexual orientation.

        3. Mother's Lament   9 months ago

          "People like French are useful idiots because they’re so easily swayed by the fear that the US will fall if the right stands up to the left."

          People who read French are useful idiots swayed by fears that the US will fall. French isn't actually one of them. He's a Judas Goat, leading them into the arms of the party.

        4. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          Tell it to the woodchippers.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            Try a retort that can actually hit the broad side of a barn, doofy.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      From the Tablet article I quoted below:

      The whole-of-society trope can be traced from its initial popularization in the context of CVE in 2014-15 to its use as a censorship coordinating mechanism after the rise of Donald Trump initiated a panic over Russian disinformation, then as a call for increased social media clampdowns during COVID, to the present—where it functions as a generic slogan and coordinating mechanism of a party state, one originally built by Obama, and which now operates through the vehicle of the Democratic Party over which he presides.
      What the various iterations of this whole-of-society approach have in common is their disregard for democratic process and the right to free association, their embrace of social media surveillance, and their repeated failure to deliver results...
      Not that such flaws are disqualifying. In the same way that a particular politician’s poor standing with voters does not seem to discourage the party from anointing them as long as they can be trusted to serve its interests, the whole-of-society strategy remains attractive regardless of its outcomes, because it extends the party’s authority over formerly independent centers of power.
      Indeed, whole of society is a totalizing form of politics. As the name implies, it discards the traditional separation of powers and demands political participation from corporations, civic groups, and other nonstate actors. Mass surveillance is the backbone of the approach, but it also consolidates a new class of functionaries who all directly or indirectly work for the party’s interests.

      Keep in mind that the foundation for all of this was put in place by the neocons after 9/11. It's not an accident that their mouthpieces are shilling The Message of the Regime now, too. They're the ones who implemented the structure to begin with.

    3. damikesc   9 months ago

      He was not always like this.

      He was bought.

      He just LIKES being bought.

      Huge benefits for a "conservative" to be bought by the Left.

  17. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'Trump campaign hacked, possibly by Iranian operatives'

    I guess that makes sense, and symmetry. If Trump allies in Russia can hack Democrats, then Biden/Harris allies in Iran can do the same to Republicans.

    1. JFree   9 months ago

      The real symmetry is that journalists are useful idiots regardless of the story line.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   9 months ago

        Whoosh!

      2. R Mac   9 months ago

        Oh, the irony!

    2. Kungpowderfinger   9 months ago

      If Trump allies in Russia can hack Democrats, then Biden/Harris allies in Iran can do the same to Republicans

      That’s why I’ve been reading H&R for years.

      That kind of connecting the dots isn’t going to win anyone a Pulitzer Prize, I’m afraid. This story will be buried by end of day.

    3. CE   9 months ago

      Probably just some kid with an associates degree living with his parents.

      Too soon?

    4. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

      Trump has allies in Russia?

  18. R Mac   9 months ago

    "U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has ordered a guided missile submarine to the Middle East and is telling the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier strike group to sail more quickly to the area, the Defense Department said Sunday," per the Associated Press.

    So Loyd Austin is commander in chief? Well, at least nobody can say Reason voted for this, I guess.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

      No, he's effectively the "deputy commander in chief", second in command only to the President of the United States.

      Were you under the impression that the Sec. of Defense could not give military orders?

      Apparently so...

  19. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    'This is along the neighborhood Edgemere, which is mostly black, and whose residents have begun to raise the question: Why are nesting birds valued more highly than the economic revitalization that our neighborhood could enjoy if our beach access were returned to us?'

    Edgemere residents can ask their red POC brothers and sisters, who were removed from lands in the western US in order to make National Parks more "natural".

  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    "People in Europe love boiling foods, which is basically the worst way to prepare them. They love boiling foods because of tradition and poverty but also because much of Europe gets scared around spices."

    More White Culture criticism?

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      That’s the acceptable racism.

    2. Ska   9 months ago

      Does Italian American count as white culture? It's been a long and tortured path.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Yup. From black in the 19th century to white oppressor in the 21st. They should be proud.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      Chinese hot pot hardest hit.

    4. SRG2   9 months ago

      Famously boiled dishes like confit de canard? Steak frites? Abacchio al forno? Carciofi alla giudia? Saltimbocca alla Romana?

      In Eastern Europe, sure, but Europe overall? Bollocks.

      1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

        There is no boiling involved in preparing Steak frites in any recipe I’ve seen.

      2. R Mac   9 months ago

        Edit: oops, looks like shrike was making a funny.

        1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          Not certain.

          1. SRG2   9 months ago

            Because you're a fuckwit. Of course I was mocking the comment. But it's sad that of the five dishes I'd listed, you'd only heard of one. Poor DLAM.

            1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

              I didn’t see the need to totally humiliate you about your poor attempt at humor, and what I said was true.
              Fuck you.

              1. SRG2   9 months ago

                Fuckwit, it was sarcasm, not humour. The only person you ever humiliate is yourself - though I grant you expertise in the matter.

                Poor DLAM

                1. R Mac   9 months ago

                  Sarcasm is a form of humor shrike.

                2. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

                  You suck at sarcasm as well, shrike.

    5. Overt   9 months ago

      There is nothing coastal elites love more than shitting on Americans in an effort to feel superior. They have long pined for the classist discrimination of the Old World, which has tended to be difficult with the US's egalitarian tradition. In Europe, only the Upper Class tended to go to Universities, and so a degree was a reliable indicator that you were from among the Aristocracy. That is why american journalists are so obsessed with Ivy League degrees and fellating the upper crust across the pond.

      But the US has adopted most of what makes Europe laudable, and discarded the rest. Our wines regularly win blind tastings. Our beer has more dynamism in one city than the entirety of Germany. Our food embraces change and eschews stodgy traditions. Europe is increasingly irrelevant.

      I had a great trip in Spain, Portugal and England this summer. The people I met seemed happy to have me there- so wherever these anti-tourist protests are coming from seems to be isolated. But by and large, every restaurant was the same, serving the same 5 dishes, all prepared the same way. You had to go to an immigrant- , or a Michelin star-restaurant to get anything interesting.

      Europe strikes me as a history-lover's Disney Land. Very little to offer other than entertainment. To the extent that they want to take my money for such reasons, I'm happy to give it to them. And if they don't want me there, fuck them, there are 1000 other places with old ruins.

      1. mtrueman   9 months ago

        "There is nothing coastal elites love more than shitting on Americans in an effort to feel superior. "

        I disagree. Have you ever read anything of Fran Lebowitz? She's probably the elitist of the coastal elites. And at times, she can be quite funny. There's nothing she loves more than shitting on coastal elites. Those from the flyover country are simply ignored.

        1. Overt   9 months ago

          " She’s probably the elitist of the coastal elites."

          Oh wow, mtm, do you have a good ranking system of who is the best of the coastal elites? We are so lucky that you are here to tell us who is the TRUE elite, vs who is the pretender. That must be such a useful skill.

          1. mtrueman   9 months ago

            " you have a good ranking system"

            Evidently better than yours. Hardly a surprise.

            If you've never read any Fran Lebowitz there is no shame. She spends her time shitting on coastal elites. You might even appreciate it. If you're worried that she might offend you by shitting on those of the fly over country, relax. She ignores them.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

              Then, misconstrueman, what is your ranking system?

              1. mtrueman   9 months ago

                You should familiarize yourself with coastal elites. There are others if Fran Lebowitz is not to your taste. Ranking is more subjective than systematic, for me at least. How about you?

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        From what I understand, you really need to get away from the tourist spots if you're looking for more traditional places to eat in Europe. It's honestly not that much different from America in that way.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   9 months ago

          Ever see the scene in National Lampoon’s European Vacation where they’re eating by the Eiffel Tower? They’re being served authentic French TV dinners nuked at that cafe. The Griswolds can’t even tell the difference.

          https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Uxx9HvlhPM&pp=ygUjRXVyb3BlYW4gdmFjYXRpb24gZnJlbmNoIGNhZmUgc2NlbmU%3D

      3. SRG2   9 months ago

        But by and large, every restaurant was the same, serving the same 5 dishes, all prepared the same way.

        That says more about your ability to find restaurants than about the cuisines available.

      4. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

        Jesus, just stop. Until the 2000s, in the UK university students were handsomely subsidized during their studies. Students in other European countries were subsidized for five to seven years. These were the ordinary people, not the elites. Even Boris fucking Johnson began as a "commoner" at Eton.

        Europe is only "Disneyland" because you think it is.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    Fighting continues inside Russia, where Ukrainian forces have managed to stay for several days.

    Now who's the aggressor???

    1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

      I fail to see the objective here. Sacrafice troops and material to make Putin look bad? They are wasting reasources they can't replace on a PR victory.

      1. Ska   9 months ago

        PR is the most important thing.

      2. JFree   9 months ago

        They have to take advantage of weaknesses in Russia in hopes that Russia keeps some troops in Russia to shore those weaknesses in future. It's always a difficult strategy to always fight on your own territory.

        Plus – I suspect they’ve got to demonstrate to Russians themselves that there’s a real war. Right now, Putin is ensuring that only non-Russians are killed in Ukraine so for Russians themselves, this war is a freebie.

        High risk move though. See Army of Virginia and Gettysburg

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

          Right now, the Biden Regime is ensuring that only non-Americans are killed in Ukraine so for the Biden Regime, this war is a freebie.
          FIFY

      3. Moonrocks   9 months ago

        They're taking territory that can be used as a bargaining chip in future negotiations.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

          They aren't going to be able to keep it. 1000 troops is nothing, plus I doubt they have enough reasources to keep them supplied in Russian territory. They will all be killed in a week or two and they will have achived nothing. Unless there is a giant army waiting for them to establish a bulkhead so they can slip in behind the Russian fortifications in Ukraine, but I doubt that.

          1. Moonrocks   9 months ago

            They aren’t going to be able to keep it.

            I wouldn't be so sure. The lines have been virtually static for almost two years.

            1. R Mac   9 months ago

              The amateurs discuss tactics: the professionals discuss logistics

              — Napoleon Bonaparte

            2. Spiritus Mundi   9 months ago

              Which means it is time to sue for peace and stop wasting blood and treasure.

      4. Overt   9 months ago

        "I fail to see the objective here"

        If Zelensky wants to stay in power, he must continue to feed Ukrainian young men to the war machine. The West likes Russia distracted and harassed. And they will continue to prop up the Ukrainian president just so long as he continues to do this. If he were to sue for peace, he would no longer be useful to the West, and would find himself quickly cut off.

        1. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

          If he were to sue for peace, he would no longer be useful to the West, and would find himself quickly cut off.

          I suspect if he made his intentions clear to the US and other powers in NATO that he wanted to end the war and sue for peace, he find himself more than quickly cut off. He'd probably find his life at risk.

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          It's not better that Russia wastes its blood and treasure futilely fighting Ukraine than a NATO country?

        3. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   9 months ago

          At least there should be a nice surplus of young Ukrainian women?

          I could be talked into a mail order bride for my fiftieth...

      5. Super Scary   9 months ago

        "I fail to see the objective here."

        Are their elections still "suspended" because of the war?

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

          You think there's a big pro-Russia opposition within un-occupied Ukraine being cruelly deprived of its democratic opportunity to compete at the ballot box?

  22. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

    "Voters trust Harris more than Trump with the Economy"

    Does "trust" mean get more free shit?

    1. Mazakon   9 months ago

      It means that those voters are completely retarded.

      1. BYODB   9 months ago

        Yeah, if one trusts Harris over Trump on economic issues they should get their head examined. Trump is no economic genius, but Kamala is an actual retard.

        Much like the Special Olympics, the least disabled person wins.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

      Why, yes, yes it does.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    ...writes conservative pundit David French in a New York Times column on why he's voting for Kamala Harris.

    Lol. Trump isn't as much of a Democrat as Harris. (Although he's close.)

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

      Well, he was. Like, for example, when he gave her California AG campaign $5,000 and another $1,000 in 2014 (and Ivanka gave her $2,000 for some reason).

      That's some weird, "4D" MAGA chess being played right there...

  24. Fist of Etiquette   9 months ago

    "Fully 60 per cent of those surveyed said [Harris] should either break completely from the president's economic policies or 'make major changes' to his platform."

    They were going to vote Joe back in anyway, but they're I guess hoping that his handlers won't be her handlers.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      From Jacob Siegel at Tablet Magazine:

      Many observers misunderstood the downfall of Joe Biden and his swift replacement by Vice President Kamala Harris. Seeing the switch made without voter participation they decried it as a coup. But that is a kind of category error that assumes an intact democratic process was subverted by outside forces. In reality, if Biden is still aware of anything, it is that the party-state system that just removed him from power is the same one that installed him in the first place.

      1. Rick James   9 months ago

        In reality, if Biden is still aware of anything, it is that the party-state system that just removed him from power is the same one that installed him in the first place.

        This is completely accurate, yet actually more creepy.

        1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          Biden admits he was a “distraction “.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            Hilariously, there's a clip on The Dispatch's Twitter feed showing Jonah Goldberg telling some CNN bobblehead that she was insane for believing Biden could go another 4.5 years.

            This wasn't 2021, this was like back in May. I guess it's easy to call it a hivemind, but the reality is that it's something a lot more sinister in that it's a coordinated, public/private apparatus controlled from the top by Obama and his lackeys, and administered by his adherents in the government at all levels, and in corporate boardrooms. It's a form totalitarian managerialism of exactly the kind that Orwell warned about ("The past was alterable. The past never had been altered."), but because of the perceived threat to "national unity," the idiotic Bush/Kemp Republicans and neocon fatheads like Dick Cheney and his spawn go right along with it, because they're living in this alternate reality where Reagan wasn't viewed as a populist insurgent to go-along-to-get-along Yankee Republicanism.

            1. mtrueman   9 months ago

              "it’s something a lot more sinister in that it’s a coordinated, public/private apparatus controlled from the top by Obama and his lackeys, and administered by his adherents in the government at all levels"

              It's more business as usual than sinister. And Obama pulling all the strings? Gimme a break, man!

              Billionaires didn't like the look of Biden's chances against Trump and threatened to withdraw funding unless he was replaced. He was replaced and cash started to flow once again. Within a week Harris had received more than $200 million. We see the same thing happening - wealthy donors threatening to withdraw political funding - in the decision to remove Claudine Gay as president of Harvard, or strong arming the mayor of New York to crack down on protests at Columbia.

              As I say, business as usual, and perfectly illegal, if not entirely above board.

  25. TrickyVic (old school)   9 months ago

    I'm sure Hackers for Harris can make it look like someone else did it.

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      White hackers for Harris.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   9 months ago

        Like with the crowd around Air Force 2?

        1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

          Hilariously poor photoshop

          1. BYODB   9 months ago

            It was good enough at a glance, and that's all it takes these days.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

              Didn't see the video, did you, lol.

              No, they wouldn't show you that, would they?

      2. R Mac   9 months ago

        CIA hackers for Harris.

  26. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

    This is along the neighborhood Edgemere, which is mostly black, and whose residents have begun to raise the question: Why are nesting birds valued more highly than the economic revitalization that our neighborhood could enjoy if our beach access were returned to us?

    Welcome to the party pal.gif

  27. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

    "What allegiance do you owe a party, a movement or a politician when it or they fundamentally change their ideology and ethos?" writes conservative pundit David French in a New York Times column on why he's voting for Kamala Harris.

    I dont think that word means what you think it means.

  28. Rick James   9 months ago

    What? There was an attempt on Trump's life? Where is this being reported?

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      Old news, local story.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

      They so very mad that he missed. Infuriated that the plan was ruined because Trump turned his head.

  29. sarcasmic   9 months ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13734187/Cate-Blanchetts-Hollywood-blockbuster-bombs-critics-races-box-office-disaster.html

    Cate Blanchett's Hollywood blockbuster bombs with critics as it races toward box office disaster

    Previews were good. I'm going to go see it anyway.

    1. Rick James   9 months ago

      Ok, I have to admit, I just heard there was an attempt on Trump's life, and I didn't even know Cate Blanchett had a "Hollywood Blockbuster" out.

      I like Blanchett. Lot of big blockbuster misses as of late, which have been disappointing. In particular, the Napoleon epic from Ridley Scott.

      1. Rick James   9 months ago

        Holy shit, they made a Borderlands movie? Wow, I am out of the loop!

        1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

          I go to the movies fairly often so I've seen the trailer a few times. I thought it looked really dumb and really entertaining.

          1. R Mac   9 months ago

            Just like you!

    2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

      Looks like a pretty terrible go at borderlands.

      Hollywood has to stop with the aging girlboss stuff. Its not believable.

      I like Blanchett in some things, but she's fucking old now. Her and Jamie Lee Curtis? Too old for these types of roles. This stuff just isn't believable, and often comes off cringey as a result. Reminiscent of Viola Davis' 60 year old ass beating down a hulking 6+foot African beast man decades younger than her. Or Rosario Dawson playing Ahsoka, a character that's in her teens to 20s...and it showed in Dawsons slow, painful fight choreography.

      Stop casting old women to be action stars, its not gonna work, its never going to work.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

        Yeah, they're still trying to market Dawson from 20 years ago, when she was taking her kit off and quite spry. She's pushing 50 now, and it shows.

        Part of the problem is that Hollywood is torn between trying to promote classic shiksa eye candy like Sydney Sweeney, Disney/Nickelodeon Rape Dungeon grads like Zendaya, mystery meat-looking nepo kids, and complete uggos. None of these idiots can really act, so they keep going back to established stars who did actually pay their dues in theater and shitty bit-part roles before making it big. That's why these studios keep going back to the well of older farts like Cruise and Robert Downey Junior, and Hugh Jackman is still pumping himself with steroids to play Wolverine after 20-plus years.

        1. Rick James   9 months ago

          Disney/Nickelodeon Rape Dungeon grads like Zendaya

          I laughed at this, but not a joyful laugh, like Kamala Harris.

          1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

            I did also have an audible chuckle, on of those sentences where I immediately laughed but then immediately felt bad

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   9 months ago

        They pissed off their target viewers with their role casting for the characters. Kevin Hart playing the stoic bruiser guy is on top of the list. Jamie Lee Curtis playing a teenager is another. Leaving out 2 of the most popular characters.

      3. Overt   9 months ago

        And to be fair, this doesn't stop at women. Harrison Ford has not done a good action film since before Crystal Skull.

        1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          It doesn't, and agreed watching the old farts try and keep up is bad enough. Ford was as painful to watch in the new Indy as was his cunty mary sue counterpart.

          Its just another level of disbelief away when its an older woman who would most likely spend her days at a book club or bridge game, out there in the trenches. If there was any immersion at all, its completely broken with how much of a farce it is.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

          Ford's decline into a paycheck-chaser since Crystal Skull is really depressing, because the guy still has a charismatic screen presence even at his advanced age. His work in both "42" and the "1923" series showed that he could more than hold his own in dramatic productions, particularly historical set pieces where his gruff persona fits well with rugged, masculine lead roles that require a bit more finesse to not become caricatures (his Han Solo is basically the "outlaw with a heart of gold" archetype that's fully in the American narrative tradition going back to the dime novels of the late 19th century).

          In an alternate reality, he'd have spent the last 20 years emulating what Clint Eastwood has done in creating low-key Oscar bait character studies.

          1. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

            "Ford’s decline into a paycheck-chaser since Crystal Skull ..."

            Ya, and he has been open for some time about not caring about many of his roles, even before he was old and jaded. He's pretty consistently disappointed eager fans when asked about his Han Solo, answering with remarks showing he really didn't care for the movie/franchise much at all. Though I think he really did enjoy playing indy.

        3. TrickyVic (old school)   9 months ago

          Wait until you see Tom Cruise in MI-17

      4. DesigNate   9 months ago

        TBF, the Ashoka show takes places after Return of The Jedi, so it’s a good 20-25 years after the fall of the Republic. Which would put her in her late 30’s/early 40’s.

        *Nerd hat off*

        1. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

          Controversial opinion:

          The glory days of Star Trek (TNG though Enterprise) is far better than Star Wars (including the original trilogy as well as all the other iterations).

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

            To be fair, that's a lot more screen production to go off from with Star Trek. We don't really know what Lucas might have done if he'd overseen four different Star Wars tv series in the span of a decade.

            I'm not sure it's really an apples-to-apples comparison unless you want to throw in other media like video games. The Revan saga in KOTR is arguably the peak of space sci-fi storytelling in the last 30 years, and it wasn't even a film production. But Lucas had very little input on that other than signing off on the licensing, and from what I've understood he's never really liked the Expanded Universe stuff very much, with a few exceptions such such as Darth Talon.

          2. mad.casual   9 months ago

            Really opening things up: There is no part of Star Trek that is as terrible as the Galactic Senate scenes and plot lines that was supposed to be the Dune-style rise-and-fall of an empire that Lucas wanted to make instead of a space opera.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

              Yeah, one of the best lines in Star Wars was Tarkin saying in a couple minutes that the Senate had been dissolved and Sheev was openly running the whole show from that point. Laid out the whole thing very succinctly.

              Lucas tried to go Fall of the Roman Republic in the prequels, but you can't be on the side of the Optimates and still come out looking like good guys.

        2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

          "*Nerd hat off*"

          Well fair enough, and touche, but I would say she is pushing 50 and her light saber duels have her looking 60.

          1. DesigNate   9 months ago

            Oh definitely leaves a lot to be desired.

      5. BYODB   9 months ago

        It's not just old women, it's old men too. Remember an elderly Patrick Stewart trying to do action Star Trek movies? Yikes. Or how about when, in Picard an 80 year old man was right next to an explosion that sent him several meters back, and he's fine. Nope.

        I guess young actors can't audition with a blowjob as easily these days, so Hollywood has to stick with actors who have already proven their dedication with kneepads.

    3. Mickey Rat   9 months ago

      It is one of the rare cases lately where both the critics and audience hated it.

    4. damikesc   9 months ago

      The games are overall rather good.

      The movie looks like the absolute drizzling shits.

      ...as are the vast majority of video game based movies. This is a bad one of those.

  30. sarcasmic   9 months ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13734663/Heather-Graham-54-looks-incredible-models-colourful-bikinis-beach-Italian-getaway.html

    Heather Graham, 54, looks incredible as she models colourful bikinis at the beach during an Italian getaway

    I wonder if they float.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 months ago

      30 years ago, a friend of mine observed that her appeal lay mainly in how she was “cute in a slutty kind of way.” Basically, the girl next door, who was the neighborhood bicycle and was always up for fucking your brains out when the parents weren’t home. No wonder she got that part in Boogie Nights.

      1. creech   9 months ago

        Wow, was my neighborhood underserved!

        1. Dillinger   9 months ago

          ya that was most of New Jersey you should have grown up in New Jersey.

      2. Mike Parsons   9 months ago

        "Basically, the girl next door, who was the neighborhood bicycle and was always up for fucking your brains out when the parents weren’t home."

        - My lab partner in high school. Ahh, memories.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

        There was no such girl in my neighborhood. There was a girl like that a few blocks over, which is probably why I spent so much time outside my own neighborhood.

    2. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      I wonder if they float.

      They all float.

      1. Dillinger   9 months ago

        we all float down here.

    3. Jefferson Paul   9 months ago

      I still would.

      1. sarcasmic   9 months ago

        aye

      2. Dillinger   9 months ago

        duh

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   9 months ago

      ""I wonder if they float.""

      They do and they are spectacular.

  31. sarcasmic   9 months ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13735193/Joe-Rogan-brutally-mocks-Prince-Harry-new-Netflix-stand-reveals-moment-discovered-Duke-talking-s-t-me.html

    Joe Rogan brutally mocks Prince Harry in new Netflix stand up show - and reveals moment he discovered Duke was 'talking s**t about me'

    Watched that yesterday, thought it was pretty good.

  32. Minadin   9 months ago

    "What allegiance do you owe a party, a movement or a politician when it or they fundamentally change their ideology and ethos?" writes [former] conservative pundit [, now woke looney] David French in a New York Times column on why he's voting for Kamala Harris.

    Fixed it for you.

    1. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

      if all you care about is maximizing abortion counts and tranny supremacy then i suppose you should jump ship to Kamala.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

        Don’t forget the neighborly communism!

  33. Dillinger   9 months ago

    >>conservative pundit David French

    punditry requires a qualification David French no longer maintains outside the halls of Reason.

    edit: and seriously if he's the mentor find other mentors.

  34. Dillinger   9 months ago

    I hear Fauci has covid again how is this humanly possible?

    1. I, Woodchipper   9 months ago

      well, he invented it after all.

      1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

        Lol

      2. Dillinger   9 months ago

        ya lol

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

      You're assuming he's human?

    3. mad.casual   9 months ago

      Sickest man alive, a.k.a. Three Stooges Syndrome

      Fauci: Are you sure you haven't just made thousands of mistakes?
      Doctor: Are you?

  35. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

    Kamala's joyful record.
    I’m a civil rights attorney, here’s the truth about Kamala Harris’s appalling record
    https://thehill.com/opinion/4797452-kamala-harris-civil-rights/

  36. Gaear Grimsrud   9 months ago

    More Joy from Kamala.
    Kamala's Truancy Law Put a Black Single Mom of a Special Needs Child in Handcuffs. Years Later, She's Speaking Out.
    https://freebeacon.com/democrats/kamalas-truancy-law-put-a-black-single-mom-of-a-special-needs-child-in-handcuffs-years-later-shes-speaking-out/

    1. Don't look at me!   9 months ago

      Kamala’s Truancy Law Put a Black Single Mom of a Special Needs Child in Handcuffs.

      Skin color is the most important thing.

      1. Vernon Depner   9 months ago

        She was White Indian then.

    2. BYODB   9 months ago

      This is all being scrubbed and ignored to maintain the illusion that Kamala Harris doesn't have the DNC's arm all the way up her ass. It's truly a wonder to observe the left going from 'Kamala is an idiot' (which is correct, by the way. I agree with Democrats of two weeks ago on that point) to 'Kamala is the best option ever' in the span of perhaps a week or two.

      Truly, the memory hole is accelerating it's expansion and will soon be at yesterday, and then when it reaches today we'll see what singularity looks like.

      1. mtrueman   9 months ago

        ‘Kamala is an idiot’

        Could you be underestimating her? Harris's first decision of consequence was to choose someone for VP. Reason writers and commenters were dead against her choice and preferred others. Her choice, Walz, was something, given the plausible alternatives, I favored, and it seems it was the wise choice after all.

        1. Diarrheality   9 months ago

          Could you be underestimating her?

          No.

          1. mtrueman   9 months ago

            I think her first decision of consequence, choosing a VP candidate, shows she's more on the ball than Reason staff or commenters, who, almost exclusively would have chosen another. Don't you agree?

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   9 months ago

              Waltz made himself look better by misrepresenting himself in the paperwork.

              1. mtrueman   9 months ago

                Choosing a VP was probably the first and most consequential decision Harris made when Biden stepped aside. I believe she chose wisely, despite Reason contributors and commenters advising other choices. Recent polling and the zeitgeist have proved her right. Who's the idiot now?

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

        Which version of Kamala do you think Trump will hate losing to more?

        1. Diarrheality   9 months ago

          How thoughtful of you to acknowledge the many versions of Kamala.

  37. Cyrano   9 months ago

    Huh. I wonder why Iran, who's bend on eliminating Israel and exterminating the jews, would hack Trump but not Harris?

    1. Dillinger   9 months ago

      mme. dillinger like 20 minutes ago: Iran is the new Russia! lol

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   9 months ago

      Maybe no one working for Harris was dumb enough to fall for their "spearphishing" emails? (I bet it was Steven Cheung.)

  38. TrickyVic (old school)   9 months ago

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/08/09/hackers-for-harris-donate-150000-to-kamalas-campaign/

    Was it even their own money?

    When I first heard of Hackers for Harris I couldn't help but to wonder how long it would be until I heard Trump getting hacked.

  39. Medulla Oblongata   9 months ago

    "U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ordered..."

    The "black man" doing his job.

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