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Iran Speaks of Israel's 'Annihilation'

Plus: Tim Walz's bad free speech comments, Planned Parenthood being sued, the metamorphosis of dining, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.8.2024 9:30 AM

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Disturbing talk from Tehran: "The Zionist regime [Israel] will soon receive a strong and definite response, and there is no doubt about it," said Abdolrahim Mousavi, the chief commander of Iran's army, on Wednesday. "It is clear that they themselves have realized the speed of their own destruction, and by doing so, they want to save themselves from the quagmire, but they definitely cannot save themselves from annihilation."

Iranian officials said similar things back in April, before Israel and Iran exchanged strikes which did little damage and seemed more symbolic than designed to spiral into war. But right now the entire region—specifically, Iran and its proxies—appears to be on the brink of retaliation directed toward Israel, which took out Fuad Shukr, one of Hezbollah's top military commanders, and Ismail Haniyeh, one of Hamas' top political leaders. Israel claims it assassinated Shukr in retaliation for a rocket attack from Hezbollah that killed 12 kids. (The killing of Haniyeh probably needs no explanation, given the events of October 7, in which Hamas came into Israel and murdered 1,200 in the single most brutal day of carnage Israel has ever seen.)

Airlines will divert some of their routes around both Iranian and Lebanese airspace, with Egypt instructing all of its airlines to avoid Iranian airspace early this morning local time.

Israel's security cabinet plans to convene tonight to prepare for the nation's defense in the event of an attack from Iran and/or its proxies. And, on Friday, the U.S. reported that it had "ordered more combat aircraft and warships capable of shooting down missiles and drones to the Middle East in response to the threats from Iran and its allies," reports The New York Times.

Internally, Hamas has replaced Haniyeh with Yahya Sinwar, one of the chief architects of the horrific October 7 pogrom. Sinwar is believed to be hiding in the tunnels below Gaza and has arguably been more influential in crafting Hamas' strategy than Haniyeh was.

Ukrainian troops get into Russia: Ukraine's military has advanced six miles into Russia, capturing a few small border settlements and leaving their aggressors scrambling.

Russia instigated the war in Ukraine, which has been raging since February 2022. It's the third time Ukraine has progressed into Russian borders, but it appears to be the largest so far (though the military itself has released no information about the assault, and reporters are mostly relying on intelligence analysts assessing photos and videos of the region).

"The fighting was intensive enough for the acting governor of the Kursk region in Russia, Aleksei Smirnov, to declare a state of emergency late Wednesday in order to 'liquidate the results of an incursion into the region's territory by enemy forces,'" reports The New York Times.

Tim Walz misunderstands free speech: "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy," Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, who Kamala Harris recently picked as her running mate, told MSNBC back in December 2022, in a clip that's been resurfaced given his newfound prominence.

That's not true. Spreading "misinformation"—however you might define that pesky word—is absolutely free speech. Ditto for "hate speech," which may be defined differently depending on who you ask. And the "especially around our democracy" part is extremely concerning as well, like he's alluding to the idea that there's some sort of more-punitive carve-out for political speech, that type of speech that's so extremely important to permit and protect.

Walz is not alone in misunderstanding free speech; these types of mischaracterizations are commonly aired among the MSNBC set. And it probably doesn't matter, because vice presidents don't matter (until they do!). But it bears noting wherever it crops up, since free speech must be valued and secured in order to have a healthy political culture, and since power seekers of all stripes ought to understand such things lest they trample on them.


Scenes from New York: A fun and beautiful story from Tablet about how bananas and cream originated as a nostalgic food, beloved by American Jews, in part because of Eastern European immigrants' fondness for sour cream, and delight at bananas, a fruit that had not been available in the Old World.


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Iran Speaks of Israel's 'Annihilation'

    If only they would speak in benign phrases like "from the river to the sea..."

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

      Yep the reason writers are retarded, the rag heads have been call for the death of all non muslims since the founding of the “religion of peace”

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        Well, technically they are not calling for the death of all non-muslims.
        Only those who refuse to convert to Islam.
        (small loophole, seldom used; they also will allow you to pay a "tax")

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Do I have to wear a cloth badge?

          1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

            Israel and its supporters of their genocide in Gaza are pariahs in the world’s stage.

            The US has supported 76 years of Israeli occupation, apartheid and terrorism of Palestinians and now Israel itself is committing a holocaust in Gaza again with unrestricted allied assistance.

            Israel is on trial in the highest court of the UN for committing genocide. They have refused to stop their offensive of genocidal destruction despite being ruled to by the UN. The UN has ruled that Israel needs to return the land to the Palestinians they stole it from and pay reparations. Again they refuse.

            Israel and every nation providing them assistance are violating their signatory obligations to the United Nations genocide convention.

            What kind of lying wastes of skin, sign, ratify and renege when caught in the act?

            The Middle East conflict has always been about the Jewish selfish desire to steal Palestine.

            Through the secretive satanic channels of freemasonry, Jews pull government strings around the world. They’ve been perfecting deception and entrenching it in their religion and society for millennia.

            It’s why they must have secret societies whose members choose greed over ethics and self respect. It’s also why they end up being persecuted by the victims of their behaviour wherever they live, throughout history.

            The world isn’t going to stand aside while Israel commits a holocaust in Gaza. The US isn’t that important and is becoming less relevant with every shekel and bomb it sends to Israel.

            Are you going to let the US censor the truth to keep our children misinformed?

            1. Ersatz   2 years ago

              he US has supported 76 years of Israeli occupation, apartheid and terrorism of Palestinians

              hmmm ... seems the historical record actually states that the Jews and the rest of the Israelites are actually the indigenous peoples there...

              Plus- you keep using the word 'genocide', i dont think it means what you think it means.

              1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

                Long before Judaism was a bad idea there were canaanites.

                Canaanites are the ancestors of both Jews and Arabs. It was 1200BCE when Jews split off claiming land as Israelites, causing the very first conflict between Jews and Arabs in the region.

                1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

                  Israel and the nations supporting its genocide in Gaza are all signatories to the UN genocide convention in which genocide is clearly defined.

                  Israel is on trial in the UN for committing genocide.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    There is no "genocide" in Gaza you lying fuck.

                    1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

                      Genocide

                      In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

                      Killing members of the group;
                      Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
                      Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
                      Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

                      The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation.

                      Netanyahu is responsible for telling the IDF to commit genocide by referencing the Jewish biblical “god approved” genocide of women and children with the story of AMALEK. Clearly inciting genocide. With over 24000 non combatant women and children intentionally targeted and killed and IDF soldiers on record rejoicing about it referencing Amalek, the effect of Netanyahus instructions are clear.

                      Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was fighting “human animals” and that they will be “starved of food and water” which Israel has done and continues to do.

                      Amichay Eliyahu, the minister for heritage, suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza. Israel isn’t supposed to have nuclear weapons. Saddam Hussein was hung for crimes against humanity and he didn’t even have WMD much less threaten to use them.

                      The country’s mainly ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, who described Palestinians as “an entire nation out there that is responsible” demonstrates the genocidal intention.

                      These statements in combination with their actual execution clearly meets the UN definition and criteria for genocide aka holocaust.

                      ALL nations signatory to the UN genocide convention HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OPPOSE IT. Not deny it and send bombs money and troops to support it.

                      October 7 was an inside job.

                      The following video is the best compilation of evidence to date that proves October 7 was an inside job coordinated by Israel as an excuse to commit genocide in Gaza.

                      https://richardgage911.substack.com/p/new-documentary-on-gaza-october-7

                      The video proves that Israel, funded, coordinated and enabled the October 7 attacks.

                      It shows that Israel opened the gate to welcome trucks carrying Hamas through the wall.

                      It shows how Israel not only ignored repeated warnings from their many surveillance sources but withdrew all defences from the wall and emptied their military bases just hours before the attack and had ZERO response for more than 6 hours.

                      It shows and proves that the IDF attacked the concert goers and the kibbutz’s with Apache helicopters and tanks.

                      It shows that they sacrificed dozens of their IDF forces to blame Hamas.

                      It shows that only handfuls of Hamas soldiers wandered for hours through the evacuated areas looking for soldiers to fight but finding none.

                      It shows that the hostages that were taken by Hamas said they were treated well.

                      It shows that Netanyahu has funded Hamas with billions in cash in suitcases in the backs of cars

                2. B G   2 years ago

                  "Canaanites are the ancestors of both Jews and Arabs."

                  So the Jews have at least as strong a claim to being the truly indigenous people in the region, meaning that they've got as much right to fight "occupiers" by any means necessary as the people claiming to belong to a nationality with a name assigned by Roman occupiers and derived from the identity of Greek occupiers who had previously driven the Jews (and the Canaanites) out of the region more than a millennium prior to the migration of the ancestors of the current Arab population. Palestine is a Roman name derived from "Philistine" and given to the region previously called "Judea" as punishment for a Jewish rebellion against the Roman Occupation 500 years before the Arab migration in the 7th century.

                  Perhaps the UN should be considering some kind of tribunal against the Arabs for the cultural erasure of constructing the Al Aqsa Mosque on a site which they knew to be a Jewish holy site that had been destroyed by a previous occupation? Is there any more "colonizer" behavior than that?

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Refuted!

        2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

          It occurred to them that they had to keep some infidels around in order to have a population to tax.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Why is annihilation in quotes? It's not like they don't mean actual annihilation. Their intent is a world map on which Israel does not appear.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        It’s quoting the literal words, not scare quoting them.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          Some people still do use quotation marks for their actual purpose. weird.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Very weird…

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

              Scary.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Scary weird.

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          That may be the intent, but:

          1) The headline would read exactly the same without the quotes and not be confusing.

          2) I am not sure that is the way that is supposed to work when differentiating what is a quote from what is paraphrased.

          Nothing in the headline matches with the full quote attributed in the first paragraph. The quote containing "annihilation" was directed at the "Zionist regime". Sure, they meant Israel, as indicated by the identifier in brackets, but that is not what they said, which makes the entire headline a paraphrase. They called for the annihilation of the Zionist regime, not Israel, which is what I found confusing about the headline as written.

          TLDR: it would be unambiguous with the quotes.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            I don't really see how else you would interpret that other than that "anihilation" (or it's Persian synonym) is the language they used. But I'm kind of a stickler for proper use of quotation marks.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              Quotes are often used to identify something that is being taken out of context. You can see numerous examples in the posts below this.

              1. Zeb   2 years ago

                Sure, but that is a misuse of quotation marks (technically speaking). So people should stop doing that, not stop using them properly.

      2. SIV   2 years ago

        The world maps labeled the place as "Palestine" until after 1948.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Dirt never changes hands…

          1. SIV   2 years ago

            Likud Liz equates the Regime with the people.

        2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

          Seeing as it was a territory of the Ottoman empire pre 1900s…

          1862 map.

          https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:1860s_maps_of_Turkey,_Persia_and_Arabia_by_Alvin_Jewett_Johnson#/media/File%3A1862_Johnson_Map_of_Arabia%2C_Persia_and_Turkey_in_Asia_-_Geographicus_-_Arabia-johnson-1862.jpg

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Uh, probably because that's what the Romans called it after they kicked most of the Jews out in the wake of the Bar Kokhba revolt.

          1. SIV   2 years ago

            The Greeks called it that in 500 BC. The Egyptians called it something phonetically similar around 1200 BC. It's a place name.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Judea and Israel are place names as well. What's your point?

              1. Ersatz   2 years ago

                ^Exactly what they want to avoid dealing with

          2. JFree   2 years ago

            There is no historical evidence - none - that Jews were expelled from the entirety of what had been the Roman province of Iudea after that revolt. Many (probably a majority) were killed or enslaved - but those people obviously left no descendants. Hadrian prohibited the religion - but scholars spent at least a century or so in Galilee writing the Mishnah and beginnings of the Talmud down. Turning Judaism from Temple-based to rabbinic - which is a different religion by even Hadrians standards. Residence in or near Jerusalem was prohibited.

            There are plenty of obvious reasons why Jews voluntarily left after that. But the reality is that the overwhelming majority of the Jewish population after that revolt were diaspora Jews from much much earlier - from the Hellenic v Hebraic time or even earlier for those who had remained in Babylon/Persia before the second temple was even built. Who had not been part of that revolt - and who also have no 'land claims' from there.

            The myths that created the 2000 year old land claim on that area are just that - myths. Often Christian myths not Jewish myths. Obviously to serve a modern purpose.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              1. The majority of Jews in Israel are Mizrahi Jews of 100% Middle Eastern origin. Not Ashkenazi or Sephardic. They all cluster on a PCA with the Palestinians, and have the same amount of first century Levantine DNA as the Palestinians. The Palestinians are Arabian Peninsula shifted, the Mizrahi are equivalently shifted to the populations they were expelled from in 1947 (Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc.).

              2. Ashkenazi and Sephardic have substantial amounts of first century Levantine DNA ancestry although less than the Mizrahi and most Palestinians.

              3. Palestinians are not a race or even an ethnic group. It is a convenient grouping for Western journalists and UN politics. They are Arabs, Aramaic speaking Christians, Druze, Bedouin, etc.
              Before the Six-Day War they were Jordanian and Egyptian for fifteen years. Before that they were British subjects, before that French, before that Ottoman, before that Crusader States, before that Umayyad/Fatimid, before that Roman.

              Most are as genetically first century Jewish as the Mizrahi, and thus if you were to assign an ethnicity based on their genes it would be Jewish.

              4. The exception are the Yemenite Jews. The paternal Y-chromosome haplogroup of Yemenite Jews is Levantine, but the autosomal DNA isn't. They are most closely related to Yemeni's but they have on of the most ancient Arabian peninsula genetic profiles ever. They have a lot of what is called Basal Eurasian in archaeogenetics, and closely match Arabians from the Ice Age.

              1. JFree   2 years ago

                Mizrahi are descended from diaspora jews who were in Babylon/Persia at the time of that revolt. Baghdad was always the most populous Jewish city. Not from Bar Kokhba revolt.

                Genetically - they are the closest modern Jewish dna to archaeological era 'Canaanite' dna. But not the closest DNA match. The closest DNA match to the Canaanite era - long before the Romans - are, in rough order
                1. Samaritans
                2. Palestinian/Levantine Christians
                3. Druze
                4. Palestine/Levantine Sunni
                5. Palestine/Levantine Shia
                6. Mizrahi - specifically Iraqi
                7. Basically a mix of Egyptian, Syrian, Arab
                8. Non Mizrahi jews and others from 'nearby' - Greek, Persian, etc

                Meaning - that whoever stayed in that roman province - Jewish or not - converted to a different religion and then pretty much inbred. There was not significant Arabian/peninsular influx with the expansion of Islam. That is genetically now proven to be mostly a myth. A myth created specifically to deny Muslim conversion and hence competing 'land claims'.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  How does this:

                  1. Samaritans
                  2. Palestinian/Levantine Christians
                  3. Druze
                  4. Palestine/Levantine Sunni
                  5. Palestine/Levantine Shia
                  6. Mizrahi – specifically Iraqi
                  7. Basically a mix of Egyptian, Syrian, Arab
                  8. Non Mizrahi jews and others from ‘nearby’ – Greek, Persian, etc

                  …contradict anything I just said? You retarded fuck.

                  And the first ten all essentially sit on top of each other on a PCA chart.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#/media/File:PCA_map_of_ancient_and_modern_populations.jpg

                  This is what happens when antisemites do their research on 4chan and Google.

                  1. JFree   2 years ago

                    That absolutely contradicts the ISRAELI view of 'claims' to the Palestine Mandate area. Where 4 and 5 are to be ethnically cleansed to the point where they become an irrelevant minority (or apartheided if they remain more populous than that) - even if they are born in Jerusalem. And where 6 and 8 have claims to the entirety of the state of Israel - even if they are born in Brooklyn of Swedish ethnicity.

              2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                The majority of Jews in Israel are Mizrahi Jews of 100% Middle Eastern origin.

                Not true. Israel does not keep official stats on this, but according to self-reporting surveys, and including Jewish settlers in the occupied territories who are overwhelmingly of European descent, the Mizrahi are about 40%.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  45% are Mizrahi, but you do realize that’s in an Israeli population that is also 21% Arab, 6% Samaritan, Druze, etc.

                  Of the Jews themselves only 31.8% are European Ashkenazi.

                  1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                    Of the Jews themselves only 31.8% are European Ashkenazi.

                    Wrong.

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Also this, "but those people obviously left no descendants" isn't even remotely true.

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              There is no historical evidence – none – that Jews were expelled from the entirety of what had been the Roman province of Iudea after that revolt.

              That's not what I wrote, shitwit:

              probably because that’s what the Romans called it after they kicked most of the Jews out in the wake of the Bar Kokhba revolt.

              The myths that created the 2000 year old land claim on that area are just that – myths. Often Christian myths not Jewish myths. Obviously to serve a modern purpose.

              Land claims are enforced by those who can hold them. It's called the "right of conquest" for a reason, and if their ancestors had lived there, they are in their rights to try and gain it back.

              The Arapahoe descendants would be within their same rights to scalp and massacre Denver and Boulder residents to get their land back, if they could pull it off, despite your protestation that modern Jews don't have any connection to the pre-Babylonian exile Hebrews, and thus, no right to the land.

              1. JFree   2 years ago

                if their ancestors had lived there, they are in their rights to try and gain it back.

                Read what I wrote – for comprehension this time.
                There is no land claim from 2000 years ago for people who simply moved voluntarily. That sort of land claim – which is fucking worse than useless as a way to resolve land claims today – relies exclusively on some notion that dead people a long time ago were kicked off their land and thus couldn’t pass that claim down to their descendants. That didn’t happen to those dead people. It is a myth. And even if it did…Worse – No American should be tolerating this sort of bullshit for one nanosecond.

                The question Whether one generation of men has a right to bind another, seems never to have been started either on this or our side of the water. Yet it is a question of such consequences as not only to merit decision, but place also, among the fundamental principles of every government. The course of reflection in which we are immersed here on the elementary principles of society [meaning the Constitutional Convention] has presented this question to my mind; and that no such obligation can be so transmitted I think very capable of proof.—I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self evident, ‘that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living’: that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. The portion occupied by any individual ceases to be his when he himself ceases to be – Thomas Jefferson 1789 in a letter to James Madison.

                That is in fact not a pure invention by Jefferson. It is his [accurate] interpretation of how Biblical Jubilee would have worked (since it was never applied). Which in turn was not a Hebrew invention but was a longstanding land-reform and debt-cancellation tradition of the Babylonian area and the origin of ALL law codes from that area – from Hammurabi to before and after.

                It is also why ‘reparations’ is an insane idea. The earth belongs to the living. The dead have no power or rights over it. It is why ‘the Araphoe’ have no ‘ancestral’ claim to anything. Arapahoe living today possess a valid claim – to basically the Lockean proviso when it comes to land.

                I don’t give a fuck when Netanyahu says that [modern] Israel is the home of Abraham/Isaac/etc or that God gave Israel to the Jews in Russia/Iraq/Brooklyn/TelAviv even if they don’t believe in God. That version of Zionism is fucking insanity.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                  Read what I wrote – for comprehension this time.

                  I comprehended it just fine. Your premise is circular reasoning based on legalistic sophistry.

                  There is no land claim from 2000 years ago for people who simply moved voluntarily.

                  Uh, you do realize that those came about as a result of military conquest, right, including the Assyrian conquest where most of the area was cleared out? Are you contending that the Jews who were also sold into slavery during those wars “moved voluntarily”?

                  It is why ‘the Araphoe’ have no ‘ancestral’ claim to anything. Arapahoe living today possess a valid claim – to basically the Lockean proviso when it comes to land.

                  They can call it whatever the fuck they please, and every Native American tribe DOES make ancestral claims to the land. In fact, the US fucking government themselves, in the form of the NPS, even reinforces this at places like Walnut Canyon National Monument, with signage that flat-out states “Migration is not abandonment.”

                  Irrespective of that claim, all that matters is who can hold on to the land with the force of their military strength. Their reasons can be whatever they want, as long as they hold the land.

                  1. JFree   2 years ago

                    Fucking hell. You really are trying to solve today's problems by adjudicating what happened (and especially what didn't happen) to some dead someone 60+ generations ago. You must really be a pro-reparations kind of right winger.

                    Irrespective of that claim, all that matters is who can hold on to the land with the force of their military strength. Their reasons can be whatever they want, as long as they hold the land.

                    In truth that is correct but it creates no ethic that anyone else will honor. BTW - that IS the reason debt cancellations occurred in ancient Babylon. A society would cancel the debts/enslavements that accrued to the rich - because defending the land of that territory required the mass of the people to defend it and in exchange they would receive their own land free of debt. Societies that never cancelled debt would become purely mercenary - and mercenary societies always die because the rich don't fight and the mercenary is always amenable to a debt-free land grant by the enemy/conqueror.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                      Fucking hell. You really are trying to solve today’s problems by adjudicating what happened (and especially what didn’t happen) to some dead someone 60+ generations ago.

                      Wrong. I’m pointing out the empirical reality that the Israelis can use whatever justification they please to hold on to the land, because it ultimately is immaterial to the fact that they can hold it by military force. Deal with it.

                      In truth that is correct but it creates no ethic that anyone else will honor.

                      Oh? Israel hasn’t been an organized state since 1948? Your sperging about debt jubilees and reparations is irrelevant.

                    2. JFree   2 years ago

                      Israel hasn’t been an organized state since 1948?

                      And virtually none of Israel's border changes SINCE 1949 are recognized by any country on Earth. The 1949 'Green Line' = pre-1967 borders. That is the border - meaning Israel inside not-Israel outside - recognized by every country on Earth - and including the Palestinians since the 1970's or so.

                      So no - your 'Israel owns whatever it militarily controls' creates absolutely zero ethic that anyone else on Earth honors. The nanosecond that the US decides to stop playing the fool with what we ourselves don't recognize, then Israel will be forced to deal with its borders - in a way that every other country on Earth has to deal with if they want peace with neighbors outside its borders.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  “There is no land claim from 2000 years ago for people who simply moved voluntarily.”

                  I know that you know about the Babylonian captivity, the Jacob and Simon uprising and the First Jewish–Roman War which depopulated the areas and sent hundreds of thousands into exile. I also know that you know about the flight of Jews from the Holocaust followed by the mass expulsion of millions of Mizrahi Jews from the Arab countries in 1948…

                  So what the hell is this horseshit outside of surreptitious (or not so surreptitious in your case) antisemitism?

                  Your whole demented argument that the descendants of the indigenous have no rights, hangs on your Jew-hating ass deliberately ignoring the facts around how most Israelis got there.

                  1. JFree   2 years ago

                    Zionism is based on 'negating the diaspora'. THAT is the origin of its anti-Semitism. That Jews have no right to exist in Russia - in Germany - in Iraq - in the US. Only in Israel can the new/better Jew come into being. The original Zionism was Christian fundamentalist/dispensationalist (hoping they'd all die so jeebus) long before it became Jewish (hoping they'd all live and conquer wtfever).

                    That is precisely the origin of the alt-rights newfound love of Israel. Where your ilk can march around chanting 'Jews will not replace us' while waving Israeli flags and praising Israel as an ethnostate with Jewish supremacy there - so that Jews here will move there - and dadgummit why don't Jews here vote R for all the great things Trump has done for Israel? It really is funny as hell. The only people you're fooling is yourself.

                    the descendants of the indigenous have no rights

                    No one has rights as a 'descendant of the indigenous'. That is insanity. Everyone in a society has a right as someone who is living. Your ilk hates that because 'the living' include a whole bunch of non-whites and recent migrants and others who might pollute your bloodline if they ever marry your daughters. You want to claim your right to white as a descendant of the Angloconquistadors. Who righteously slaughtered the indigenous - and mixed their labor with the soil - and thus made it your property so you could pass it to the proper descendants. So that American land belongs to those whom those long dead decreed it should belong.

                    You're just a full of shit bigot.

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Zionism is based on ‘negating the diaspora’. THAT is the origin of its anti-Semitism.

                      What the fuck does that even mean? That doesn't even make a lick of sense J(ew)Free.

                      "That is precisely the origin of the alt-rights newfound love of Israel. Where your ilk can march around chanting ‘Jews will not replace us’ while waving Israeli flags and praising Israel as an ethnostate with Jewish supremacy there"

                      This is something that has literally never ever fucking happened, Nazi. Are you trying to invent some strawman version of your "River to the Sea!" call for genocide?

                      "No one has rights as a ‘descendant of the indigenous’."

                      Still pretending that the Arab states didn't drive them there in 1948 I see, Goebbels.

                      You're not only a liar, but a demented one who wears your Jew-hate like the robes of a saint. Frightening shit.

                    2. JFree   2 years ago

                      Search 'negating the diaspora' and you will find out what it means

                      This is something that has literally never ever fucking happened

                      See Richard Spencer, Steve Bannon, Sebastian Gorka, Jared Taylor (might not be anti-semitic but is a replacement theory type), 3%er militia movement, elements of Proud Boys, Greg Johnson, probably you and a couple of others here and certainly some of Mises Caucus. But of course you know that don't you.

                      Whitewashed by people like Yair Netanyahu

                      Still pretending that the Arab states didn’t drive them there in 1948

                      AFTER Israel was created - it obviously changed the politics of the Middle East. Only Egypt and Libya expelled Jews in significant numbers. Most of the rest PROHIBITED Jewish emigration. Mostly new forms of discrimination started - usually a direct response to the rules imposed re the Naqba and 'Israeli Arabs' who remained under martial law in Israel under 1965 or so. And Mossad operations like Operation Mural, Operation Yachin, Operation Ezra, Operation Nehemiah, 3 of the 5 Baghdad bombings (according to Avi Shlaim).

                      You have no knowledge of history. You have no interest in learning anything. You just spout bullshit and propaganda. I'm done with you. This comment was for others.

              2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                The Arapahoe descendants would be within their same rights to scalp and massacre Denver and Boulder residents to get their land back

                That's insane. See a mental health professional.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                  It's not insane at all. How the fuck do you think whites took the land from them in the first place? There's a whole exhibit in History Colorado crying about Sand Creek.

                  The only reason the Cheyenne and Arapahoe stopped doing that very thing in response was because their warrior classes finally got destroyed and they couldn't fight anymore.

                  1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                    But since then, we have evolved socially, and no longer consider such action morally acceptable. Except for you, apparently.

        4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Got any maps from 2000 BC?

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Who do these terrorists think they are, American Ivy league profs?!?!

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        No, congressmen from Maryland.

    4. JFree   2 years ago

      Iran is most certainly not speaking to the Jerusalem Post - in English. That is the link in this article. It is a safe bet that the triple translation - through a media with an agenda - then linked here through another media with an agenda - is questionable at best.

      But that is always the case isn't it. As long as nothing is ever really questioned. The war drums are beating. That's the story that matters.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

        Always an excuse. They didn't mean "annihilate", they really meant "give hugs and kisses"?

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          My interpretation, as well as that of at least 1/3 of the D base is that it was taken out of context. The whole quote was likely along the lines of we're going to invite all of Israel over to a BBQ, and together, we will annihilate a bunch of food and beers. Afterwards, we'll continue to live peacefully.

          1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

            I simply cannot create a picture in my mind of Jews and Muslims sitting down to a BBQ.
            (alone or together)

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

              Well not BBQ pork.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                Is Christianity the only major religion where a bacon cheeseburger is cool?

                Judaism - Pork, and dairy w/meat
                Islam - Pork and alcohol
                Hindu religions - Beef
                Buddhism - Eating animals

                1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                  And that's one of the reasons we conquered the world. Now, the Chinese, with their Taoist/Confucian/Buddhist/whatever mishmash, will eat anything that moves, sometimes while it's moving, so we'd better be wary of them.

        2. JFree   2 years ago

          Here’s the original source – the IRNA press agency and their English language version

          What popped up on that first page was the Jewish MP in the Iranian Parliament calling for retaliation against Israel for the Haniyeh assassination. Bet you didn’t realize Iran had a Jewish MP? I didn’t.

          Find the original story if you want. You won’t bother of course. Nor will the lazyass ‘journalists’ here at Reason. And BTW - your lazyass interpretation of a third hand translation is obviously going to be worse than the JPost.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

            Click on your link and get on a watchlist? Fuck you, Jeffy.

            1. JFree   2 years ago

              Baaaaaaaaaaaahhh.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                You are the only one linking to Iranian websites. I will not be taunted into joining you in lining up to get bathed in authoritarian jizz.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  J(ew)Free will be the first one to convert and then sell out his neighbors.

                  If we’ve learned anything from his posts over the last five years, it is that he is the ultimate bien pensant. The first to jump on a platform and espouse whatever he perceives the new orthodoxy to be.
                  If it is Covid-19 authoritarianism he will do that. If it is radical Islam he will do that. If for some unlikely reason the universe folds and the media switches to endorsing Trump, JFree will become his number one fan.
                  The man is always on the cutting edge of social orthodoxy.

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Mostly peaceful annihilation.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        It is a safe bet that the triple translation – through a media with an agenda – then linked here through another media with an agenda – is questionable at best.

        Why would you even take the time to right this bullshit? Why would anyone with the least bit of knowledge about Iran and Israel doubt that Iran absolutely wants Israel gone? They have been saying exactly that for the last 75 years. What a ridiculous fucking post.

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          I don't doubt they want Israel gone. The question is what EXACTLY are they defining as 'Israel' - and what do they mean by gone (or annihilated or whatever word in Farsi they actually used).

          Taking away that context - to an American audience - simply means pandering to our prejudgement about what Israel is - to us. In a very real sense - pandering to our ignorance rather than to our ability to know what is really happening in the world. But hey - you do you

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

            October 7, 2023. Hamas, a terror group supported out of Iran, defined Israel and showed what they mean by gone.

            Your playacting that "an Americans audience" can't judge what is an actual call for genocide is beyond absurd.

            By all means, stick your head further up your ass and triple down on this.

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              Don’t worry, he will.

          2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

            You have really gotten far up your own arse trying to excuse this.

        2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          No, they have been mistranslated for 75 years. - J(ew)free.

          1. JFree   2 years ago

            Dillinger below identifies one ACTUAL translation - Iran often calls the entity 'the Zionist regime' not Israel. Those are in fact different when connected with the Iranian goal - to eliminate that.

            And btw - one of the biggest reasons why post-revolution Iran is so hostile to 'Israel' is because Israel was the major trainer of Savak [the Shah's secret police]. It was also Israel that communicated with the Shah re the Shah's desires to develop nukes. Understand - that is the origin of what Israel calls the Iranian desire to develop nukes - Israel working with the SHAH - not the Ayatollahs - the SHAH. From 1948 - 1979, Israel and Iran were almost allies - not enemies.

            Another reason they are hostile is because of what Israel did to Shiites in Lebanon when Israel invaded in 1982. Namely - they assisted in the Sabra/Shatila massacre. Sabra was the Shiite neighborhood adjacent to the Shatila refugee camp for Palestinians. That is what turned the Shiite militia from Amal into Hezbollah. Shiism being a sub-religion mostly based on victimhood/solidarity (see Ashura).

            Not saying post-revolution Iran and Israel would have ever been friends. But the fucking lies you people believe about what IS are just invented propaganda aimed at the stunningly stubborn stupid.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              the fucking lies you people believe about what IS are just invented propaganda

              "Don't believe what you see with your own eyes. Those women raped to death and murdered babies were crisis actors for 'the Zionist regime'. You have been brainwashed into thinking that 'from the River to the Sea' has any real meaning. Iran just wants peace in the region and for their non-Shia brethren to be able to share the land and the city of Jerusalem with the Israeli people."

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                Baghdad Bob approves.

            2. BYODB   2 years ago

              So, if I read you right what you are saying is that Iran isn't really responsible for all those terror groups they fund that happen to do things like the October 7th attacks. It's totally a mystery to Iran how that plays out.

              One is left to wonder if you agree with all the American 'regime change' in South America or Reagans Iran-Contra because, after all, the results of those things aren't on us since we didn't directly fight those battles. Iran is just being unreasonable by being butt-hurt over that to this very day.

              JFree accidentally absolving the United States of all our bad actions in the previous 100 years is amazing to behold. And all in service of excusing modern-day Hitler wannabe's. Truly a wonder to watch someone cut off their nose to spite their face.

              1. JFree   2 years ago

                Those groups are not mere proxies of Iran. They did not come into existence because of Iran. They will not disappear if Iran stops supporting them. Or if the US goes to war with Iran (which do not forget for one second - THAT is the goal here). Those are just the facts. Specifically re Oct 7, it is VERY clear that there is zero evidence that Hamas told Iran anything about that. Otherwise that evidence would be massively public by now.

                Hamas and Hezbollah exist because of the LOCAL conflict with Israel. That means that, long-term, those groups will only cease to exist when the local conflict with Israel ceases to exist. Either that or the whole ethnic cleansing/genocide thing.

                Obviously now is not the time for any serious discussion to end the local conflict and I think the US shouldn't be yapping about ceasefire (or supplying weapons to render either Gaza or Lebanon uninhabitable as that is not even remotely an existential threat to Israel). But another obvious fact is that there has never been a serious discussion to end the local conflict since the conflict changed its parameters in 1967 (re West Bank/Gaza) or 1970 (re Lebanon).

                If the US simply withdrew our attention - it might be possible for the peoples in that region to stop looking at or relying on or opposing the elephant in the room. That's us. WE are the main problem. Or probably. Maybe things go to hell in a heartbeat. And that's ok too - if that is what the peoples in the region really really want.

                1. BYODB   2 years ago

                  So, really, only the United States is capable of having bad actor proxies. When Iran funds groups that cut off babies heads and rape women to death it's just shenanigans and totally unpredictable and they are in no way responsible. They would also magically have money to fund their near daily rocket attacks in Israeli suburbs even in the absence of Iranian money. Those rockets just appear, like magic!

                  I'd say it's a weird double standard, but then you're full of weird double standards.

                  1. JFree   2 years ago

                    A lot of people are capable of imagining true proxies. But only a hyperpower truly has so much control that they can create an organization that will both do its bidding and have that power locally to have what it does be a local power.

                    During the Cold War - the Soviets had some true proxies. We've had that power since WW2 - and before then in Central America.

                    Is it a double standard? That's a useless term. WE are the hyperpower now. So yeah - that sort of power imbalance applies only to us. As long as you want to be honest - then that is the standard that applies to us. If you don't want to be honest, you can pretend you're the Easter Bunny for all I care.

              2. JFree   2 years ago

                being butt-hurt over that to this very day.

                Oh – and Iran is not butt-hurt over stuff that only occurred in the 1970’s with the Shah or the early 1980’s in Lebanon (more accurately 1977-2000 and 2006 and 2023-2024 and all the border clashes in between). There was a deliberate decision by Rabin (supported by Likud and the US) to pivot towards heightening any conflict with Iran in order to pivot towards better relations with Arabs. That required the ‘dual containment’ (of Iran and Iraq) with US troops sitting in Saudi Arabia.

                Basically the US lined up OUR alliances against what the US pretty much sustained as our permanent enemy. We are the ones who have kept the Iran enmity persisting (despite many moves over the years by Iran to improve relations). Israel has merely kept stoking all their local hostilities – and under Netanyahu amping them all up to 11. With the result that Iran has kept funding their ‘axis of resistance’ as basically a way to prevent the US from taking over Iran without consequence. In many ways - that 'axis of rsistance' is the alternative to Iran developing nukes.

      3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Iran does so quite a bit dumdum.

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/iranian-official-tweets-message-in-hebrew/

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          Yesterday he was shilling for Walz and today he is shilling Israel as lying about how much their enemies want them annihilated. What a fucking tool.

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

            Located the White Dude for Harris.

          2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

            I can't remember if he was this dumb before covid.

            1. Super Scary   2 years ago

              Maybe he just suffering from the brain fog you can get from "long covid."

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                Lack of oxygen from triple masking.

        2. DesigNate   2 years ago

          JFree’s not dumb. He’s just an asshole.

      4. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "It is a safe bet that the triple translation – through a media with an agenda – then linked here through another media with an agenda – is questionable at best."

        Same obfuscation and misdirect as always. We saw it daily on the college campuses, same shit with radical muslim simps.

        "Listen we just want equal rights and safety for palestinians! We arent calling for any harm toward the Jews!!"...

        1 minute later...

        "Oh also, the state of Israel shouldn't exist at all"

        I wonder what they think would happen to the Jews if palestinians ran the region...

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          That depends. The one-state solution is the ONLY solution. Always has been since 1967. That's what is currently in effect. Except that the version of the one-state in effect is an apartheid ethnostate. That IS the current 'state of Israel' - where The right to exercise national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.

          Well that certainly is holding a tiger by the tail and yes I can certainly see why if that is the only 'alternative' that the Palestinians will instead envision a different apartheid ethnostate with themselves as supreme.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            "Except that the version of the one-state in effect is an apartheid ethnostate. That IS the current ‘state of Israel’"

            And the alternative is literally all the Jews dead.

            With Israel in power, Arabs live and work and have representation in Israel.

            With a palestinian state, all the jews would be decapitated and raped, tomorrow.

            Not even a close choice. Israel as the power in control is the most objectively positive and humane way forward. Its really not even a question.

            1. JFree   2 years ago

              And the alternative is literally all the Jews dead.

              That is, literally, only words from the most extreme. What they can, literally, do is what they did on Oct 7.

    5. B G   2 years ago

      Iran's been talking openly about the destruction and annihilation of Israel pretty much non-stop since the 1979 revolution.

      They get a pass from the usual panty-twisters on the left because those types believe that "courage" can be demonstrated just as easily by the vilification of western "conservatives" (who are still wildly liberal by comparison to Islamic fundamentalists) who they know won't actually respond with violence. There's not so much standing up to jihaidists because those people might actually respond with bombings/shootings/hostage taking as opposed to "letters to the editor"...

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Internally, Hamas has replaced Haniyeh with Yahya Sinwar, one of the chief architects of the horrific October 7 pogrom.

    I wouldn't plan on getting a chance to enjoy that 401k.

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      I wouldn’t plan on getting a chance to enjoy that 401k.

      It is still worth it to get that tax free compounding interest. If nothing else, his kids will thank him.

      1. SIV   2 years ago

        Lol! The children of militant Palestinian nationalist leaders are killed first. They're much easier targets than their fathers.

        1. Overt   2 years ago

          Only in as much as the shrapnel has to go through the kids to get to the parents. Of course, if the brave hamas leaders didn't have the habit of cloaking themselves in little human shields, this wouldn't be an issue.

          1. SIV   2 years ago

            The Hamas leaders aren't living with their families who are deliberately targeted by Israel. Killing the offspring of the enemy is as old as humanity.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              This kind of headline really brings out the worst jew-haters. Why don't you just go full anti-Zionist and accuse them of eating the Palestinian children?

              Meanwhile Hamas actually did deliberately and personally murder children and rape women to death knowing they could be seen doing so. There is no living peacefully with such monsters. If the Gazans choose to do so, then they will suffer the consequences.

              1. DesigNate   2 years ago

                Don’t be silly, they’d never eat Palestinian children. Too gamey.

  3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech"

    Ah, the classic 'free speech for people that agree with me only' part of the 1A

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Gotta love how the Democrats always say "There's no absolute right to *fill in the blank*.

      My personal favorite is that pesky "shall not be infringed".

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        It is like they deny the Constitution is absolute.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          It's hard to be a good progressive unless you deny the validity of the past.

          1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

            Or are content to find yourself restricted by custom and law.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        ...while also declaring things like housing, food, and medicine, which for the entire history of time people have basically spent most of their time and resources on acquiring, are universal human rights.

        So you should be entitled to free house, food, and healthcare whenever you want, but damnit if you question Pfizer's motives, that's a step too far

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Free stuff comes with a price.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Yup. Marching and filling out multiple ballots.

      3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Abortion never *fills in the blank*.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Repeat the lie until the lie becomes the truth and was always the truth. A hallmark that the Marxist playbook is being followed.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Is that from the DNC platform? Or the media handbook?

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

            DNC platform = the media handbook

          2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

            Supposed quotation of Joseph Goebbels, but no primary source seems to exist.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Ukraine's military has advanced six miles into Russia...

    You know who else went into Russia?

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Rocky Balboa?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        They must break him.

    2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Jack Ryan?

    3. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      The Mongols?

    4. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Bears on unicycles?

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        In trunks?!?

    5. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Alien nesting dolls hell bent on taking us over?

    6. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Ozzy Osbourne?

    7. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      The Beatles?

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Let me hear your balalaikas ringing out!

    8. R Mac   2 years ago

      Karl Marx?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

        Well, Vladimeer Lenin at least.

    9. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

      Bernie sanders?

    10. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Lee Harvey Oswald?

    11. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      Napoleon?

    12. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

      Edward Snowden?

    13. SIV   2 years ago

      The Golden Horde? The Empire of Sweden? The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? The Napoleonic French Empire? The US military under Woodrow Wilson? There's almost too many to count

    14. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      Honeymooning Burnie Sanders?

    15. Nachtwaechter Staater   2 years ago

      Tim Walz?

      Oh, noes ... *HE* went to China.

      That's weird ...

    16. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      John Reed?

    17. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Brittney Griner?

    18. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Baba Yaga?

    19. Dillinger   2 years ago

      Former United States Air Force Major Mitchell Gant?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        I thought maybe this was the guy who piloted the U-2, but that was Francis Gary Powers. Yours is much funnier.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          grandma took me to Firefox & might have been more excited to see it than I was because Clint.

    20. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      McDonalds?

    21. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      Steven Seagal?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy...

    Oh yeah, Timbo is a perfect choice for this ticket.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "lets see, what can we add to the most progressive authoritarian from CA..."

      1. HorseConch   2 years ago

        Gotta love the running mate of a woman who got the nomination for the top job without getting a single vote the past two primary cycles protecting democracy. Even the retardest of retards can see through that.

  6. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    Media is now stealth editing past articles of Waltz claiming to have fought in war when he really abandoned his troops leaving 2 years before end of his contract, 1 day prior to deployment.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/08/bloomberg-stealth-edits-piece-on-walz-to-cover-lie-that-he-served-in-iraq/

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Yesterday you said I couldn't hate the media more. Now I do, goddamnit.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Can never hate them enough.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          They’re the enemy of the people.

          1. HorseConch   2 years ago

            At least there's plenty of video evidence flowing around. This seems like the kind of thing they would benefit to own up to, but that's not how democrats work. This will continue to be a huge issue as long as they pretend otherwise. It probably wouldn't go away if they admitted to it, but it never will if they keep lying.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

              You mean cheap fakes.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              They pretended for nearly five years that Biden hadn't taken a deep dive off the lucidity ledge, and called anyone who pointed out the obvious a conspiracy theorist, until it got to a point that he became a liability to them. Then they dropped him like a bag of flaming dog shit.

              These people can barely be called people. They're a civilizational cancer in every sense of the word.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      Jeffy will be along in a moment to say “nuh uh”.

    3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      But, but, “bone spurs.!

      /pluggo

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Simultaneously promoting the idea that Vance didn't serve.

      Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN) on CNN interview: "I'm not aware of any record of military service from JD Vance has ever served, so let's just make the comparison there."

      She went on to yak about George Floyd, and Acosta did eventually interject "Well, he was in the Marines."

      "Yeah, ok, pardon me for that."

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        Now the press can quote a Senator that Vance never actually served.

        And fact check it. "We rate this claim as partly true. The Senator did say this."

    5. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

      If Walz has any dignity, he’ll pull an Adm. Boorda

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Boorda

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Narrator: He had no integrity.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          Narrator: Why do I sound like Morgan Freeman in your head?

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 years ago

            Because you forgot you can also have the voice in your head sound like James earl jones

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A fun and beautiful story from Tablet about how bananas and cream originated as a nostalgic food, beloved by American Jews…

    READ THE ROOM, TABLET.

  8. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    In the debate Joe said he defeated Medicare. This wasn't totally a lie as the money removed from it to fund electric vehicles for the IRA is causing prescription prices to spike.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/medicare-part-d-inflation-reduction-act-insurance-premiums-biden-harris-administration-625711a6?st=64p48if3ty2elnh

    1. HorseConch   2 years ago

      Kamala is about to lower costs. You need to quit being so skeptical. She didn't have any opportunity for the last 4 years, January will be the time.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        She was so busy fixing the border problems.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          "Mission Accomplished!"

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    In a first-of-its-kind lawsuit, Planned Parenthood is being sued for medical malpractice by detransitioners...

    Planned Parenthood did their due diligence. They made sure the checks cleared.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      I didn’t know they expanded their business model to destroy the kids they didn’t get to kill.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Bill Walz helped pass a MN state law that made it easier to give abortion providers a second attempt to kill babies born alive after botched abortions failed to kill the kids or at the very least, allow the born-alive infants to become not alive.

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          How many weeks in do you have to be to fail to cause death? Does the surgeon aim for the head and miss?

      2. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

        LOL Very good!

      3. Dillinger   2 years ago

        perfect.

      4. Eeyore   2 years ago

        This was news to me as well. I'm assuming they have not started providing penis removal services yet? It makes for a great marketing tag line.

        "We remove unwanted clumps of cells."

    2. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

      In a first-of-its-kind lawsuit, Planned Parenthood is being sued for medical malpractice by detransitioners…

      “Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.” - Mark Twain

    3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      The first-of-its-kind, but just the start. There will be a tsunami of these lawsuits coming, especially as trannies realize they can't afford the lifetime of medical care their mutilation has made necessary, and get desperate for a way to pay for it.

  10. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    Kamala bragged about ending people's lives as a prosecutor.

    You know the power I have as a prosecutor is that with the swipe of my pen, I can charge someone with a misdemeanor for the lowest level offense possible. And by virtue of that swipe of my pen, you will have to go to a courthouse and stand in line. You will have to come out of pocket and hire an attorney. You may get arrested for a few hours. You will be embarrassed in your community. You will miss time from coming onto the Google campus.

    All because with the swipe of my pen, I've tried to charge you with a crime. Which I may choose to dismiss two weeks later.

    It's an incredible amount of power.

    https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1820902718615298246

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      See more here.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4fjA0K2EeE

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      What a terrible person.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Are you a biologist??

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          So you’re saying she might be a lizard?

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

            Not me. Ancient alien experts.

            1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

              That's ageist, they might not be ancient just alien experts.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Ron Hart noted that Kamala is radical, unlikeable and inept; thus, she will continue to be put in the Candidate Protection Program by Dems. The same thing they did with Biden in his basement in 2020.

      Trump is not running against Kamala. Trump is running against the repackaging propaganda machine for her, the corporate media.

      There are body bags of objectionable positions Kamala has taken out there on tape: defund the police, pay bail for BLM felons, open borders, raise taxes. She cast the tie-breaking vote on $2 trillion in unnecessary spending which led to our inflation, funded the green new deal scam, stupid wars and has been soft on crime.

      The positions the media have not hidden, they just ignore. There was a time when honest journalists uncovered stories. Today, they cover them up. The Babylon Bee had a headline: CNN Awarded Pulitzer For Outstanding Achievements In Deleting Old Stories About Kamala Harris.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "Trump is running against the repackaging propaganda machine for her, the corporate media."

        ^this.

        Its Trump vs the establishment uniparty + their MSM propaganda machine. The exact candidate is unimportant, the messaging would be the same. "Vote for [candidate] or democracy is over, women in handmaid costumes, blacks in chains, yada yada"

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Blue no matter who. Or what.

    4. Overt   2 years ago

      I question that quote. Is there more context? Because it reads like she is speaking a cautionary tale- i.e. "DAs have a terrible amount of power, and we should beware".

      No love for Harris, but when I read that quote, I get different vibes.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Video is in the link.

        She arrested parents due to kids truancy.

        She kept prisoners from their legal release to use them as labor.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          I heard rumors she withheld exculpatory evidence.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Yes. For five years.

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            For a death row inmate, yes.

        2. Overt   2 years ago

          Oh she was absolutely a horrible prosecutor.

          But I watched the link, and it is clear that she is not bragging about this power. She is warning people. At the end of her little rant she says, "and you want to make sure that the people who have this power are taking seriously the impact they have."

          Obviously, she doesn't think she is an abuser of this power- even though she was a god awful abuser of her power.

          I don't think she was bragging, but she was certainly projecting.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

            And she took it seriously by abusing the power she admits in the quote to having.

            She doesn't talk about the need to be non partisan, blind, etc. She talks about the actions we know she utilized in the office.

            1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

              She's in the position where she is accused of being soft on crime primarily for bailing out rioters. But she's also has a record of abusing her power to incarcerate thousands of ordinary people. And worse. The Republicans are using the soft on crime argument. I think they go all in the other side too. There's nothing conservative about the way she abused her office in CA.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                Tulsi calling her a corrupt cop is the most accurate description. She embodies the modern leftist philosophy of two-tiered justice.

            2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              The modern Democrat cannot resist projecting. Whatever they are accusing others of is what they are doing themselves. That is why they can lie about their opponents with such smug confidence. They refuse to believe that anyone is not abusing their position.

            3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

              She also came right out of the gate bragging about her past as a prosecutor and claiming she knows Trump's "type" which sounds to me like she's promising endless lawfare if elected.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                I would absolutely recommend everyone be very careful what you post on social media if she’s elected.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      The process is the punishment.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Even just the THREAT of the process can be punishing.

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Yes the end of the video she makes clear she is talking about how it can be abused, not she did do this or some

      This is just as slimey as all the Trump headlines that take him out of context. And I find her probably as repulsive as you.

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Considering her record on abusing that power, it could be both.

  11. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago


    End Wokeness
    @EndWokeness
    HOLY SH!T

    Governor Tim Walz: NO RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH if the government decides it is misinformation or hateful

    This man is a dangerous commie
    Video

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1821215515605381197

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      I wonder if the brits of old would have considered ideas like "no taxation without representation" to be dangerous hateful speech...

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        C'mon, Mike.

        Hate speech is criticizing Harris for jailing black men for weed.

        Acceptable speech is laughing about Trump getting shot and bitching the shooter didn't kill him.

        It's (D)ifferent depending on the subject and the speaker.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...Blackbird's new checkless exit gives me the creeps.

    They need the table.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      I’ve always enjoyed the “dine and dash”.

      1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

        The dine and dash episode of That '70s show was classic.

    2. Overt   2 years ago

      I just don't see what the bother is. I just spent the entire dinner talking with my server. They recommended to me menu items. We made small talk about our lives. And when the meal was over, instead of coming to me and saying "I'll leave this here, let's have a last moment of small talk", they come to me and say "you are free to leave when you are ready, let's have a last moment of small talk".

      I have been doing this for months in fancy restaurants in Los Angeles. Many of them are prixe fixe restaurants where you know the price going in. And I pay when I make the reservation. None of this makes the staff any less personal. The only difference is that when I am ready to leave, I don't have to wait another 10 minutes to get the check, give a credit card, and wait for them to run it.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        Really, at a certain point you have to question what the point of the 'server' is anymore. Are they simply the person who brings the plate to you, and what exactly is that job's contribution to the value chain and are they worth their (in California) salary.

        The answer is increasingly a 'no' on that front, but the industry limps along as well as it can under increasing government intervention. Until it can't limp along anymore, anyway, but somehow the zombie continues to shamble.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          I'd still say having a good server improves the restaurant experience. Forcing up server base wages doesn't help with this though. The working for tips model has the benefit of weeding out people who aren't good at the job.
          Maybe it's just bias to the familiar. But I also like paying cash for things and to see my bill before I pay to make sure it is accurate.

          1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

            The tip model -- and, I HATE the concept of tipping -- is meant as a commission system.

            Your server is your sales representative. They get you what you want, or need, and they can upsell you items that might be a little something extra. The appetizer, a nicer bottle of wine, or even the $4 glass of iced tea at a diner all add to the bottom line, but since tipping is customarily on a percentage they add a few dollars to the waiter's pocket. Just like a commissioned sales person calling on clients to make sure they're fully stocked up on any other widget, the waiter will ask if you want another drink, check that you have the dessert menu as your meal is ending, etc.

            Diners all hate it. But we all hate car salesmen, too, and those fuckers are everywhere. It doesn't change because that's how the whole industry works, and will work until there's a disruptor that can sell people on a new way of doing things.

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              I'm mostly with you on tipping. I find it annoying and confusing (do people really tip their mailman and shit like that?). But for the reasons I stated I think it works well for restaurant service. A good server will make a very decent living on tips. A bad one won't. Making restaurants pay them a real minimum wage just fucks with the system.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          I'm still trying to figure out why they have servers at those Mongolian BBQ places. All they do is bring you your drink, the rice, and maybe a dessert if you want one. But you have to get your own food.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...even 'small speedbumps' in the economy now could be another reason to sell.

    For some reason people don't understand how very strong the economy is right now.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Economy is booming so much they don't even need to buy cheap shit at Big Lots.

      https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/big-lots-could-potentially-close-315-stores

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Inflation has made everyone rich!

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Do you even cheesy poofs bro?

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Citizens are openly questioning why Beijing is spending so much money on a sporting event when many at home are facing bleak economic prospects.

    Vote the bums out.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Citizens are openly questioning why Beijing Washington is spending so much money on a sporting event Ukraine when many at home are facing bleak economic prospects.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    I think that there's more than one way to populate the planet—if not with children, then with other things...

    Thank God someone watched HBO's Westworld.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Jesus in a piss jar will always be more enjoyable than your kids.

      1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        You know the trannies who dressed up for their "last supper" thing at the Olympics got exactly the reaction they were looking for. They are attention whores, and every time the headlines read "Christians mad" they eat it all up. That's why they do the "period blood jesus" and other nonsense, and every time, the Christians get mad and their plan has worked. Ignore them, don't buy into it.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

          Yet talk badly about a Muslim and the UK will put you in jail.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Or leave tire tracks on a alphabet sex cult flag painted on the road...

            1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

              Yep, the infamous Spokane pride flag crosswalk has just been repainted. It would be a shame if...

          2. BYODB   2 years ago

            In some fairness, Muslims tend to react rather poorly when you just draw a picture of Mohammed let alone make a bust of them out of menstrual blood.

            Artists simply aren't brave enough to risk death for their works. Pissing off Christians though? That's fine. They won't even murder you so it's totally fine and safe.

            It's the appearance of avant garde without any of the associated risks.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        That's why it deserved an arts grant.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Things ≠ children.

  16. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

    No Liz and Kat, the crazy cat lady is a trope because it's true and the both of you proggy rwats pushing that as normal, even preferable, does not change the bitter, angry authoritarianism that the trope suggests. Civilizations propagate on shared values and family bonds, both of which you proggies are set on destroying. I'd feel pity for you nihilistic cultists if you weren't actively trying to destroy everyone else's life along with your own.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      To be fair, I’m pretty sure Liz birthed a carbon footprint.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        Stated vs revealed preferences and I didn't feel like dragging their hypocracy into it and just addressed the stated preferences.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          I feel like Liz is pretty consistent on having kids being a good thing. She said it was rude, not that it was inaccurate. And not everyone has children and such people still can contribute good things to future humanity.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            It's really only rude if Liz or Kat owns a lot of cats and no kids. Otherwise, it's just another women getting all neurotic in defense of people whom she doesn't even know and may only exist in her head.

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              Probably. Women will do that. Which is why it might not be best to talk about "cat ladies" or Kamala's history of sexual favor giving too much. I thought the "cat lady" line was pretty good, but I can imagine it annoying even sympathetic women.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      It really is a religion more insane and evil than even the Necromonger parody from The Chronicles of Riddick.

      "Our art will outlive your children."? Phbbt! Right. Cope harder Kat.

      1. BYODB   2 years ago

        There's the minor problem that art can't perpetuate the species, but whatever I suppose. It's not like there's any shortage of feral cats, either, for what it's worth.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Our art will outlive your children.

        But it will not create more art in the future.

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Not to mention art is a product of culture. A society that is based off of the notion of perpetual revolution and disappearing anything that doesn’t fit Current Year sensibilities isn’t capable of preserving anything that will be admired 2,000 years later. Most of the art in today’s museums was crafted by artists who had a respect and identification with all those centuries of culture, which is a principle in and of itself.

        Post-modern leftism since the end of World War II promotes none of that. It's all based off of deconstructionism to fit a dialectic.

      4. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   2 years ago

        Childless Kat Lady irritated by this.

  17. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    In a first-of-its-kind lawsuit, Planned Parenthood is being sued for medical malpractice by detransitioners who claim the organization inadequately assessed plaintiffs' mental health prior to providing cross-sex hormones. The Free Press has more.

    Jeff is furious and will sue hospitals over chemotherapy.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      "organization inadequately assessed plaintiffs' mental health prior to providing cross-sex hormones"

      Gee, ya think?

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Inadequate assessment of condition?

        That certainly does not sound like Planned Parenthood.

        #KidShouldHaveBeenKilledAnywayAmIRight?

  18. Randy Sax   2 years ago

    Good insight from an X follower,

    Are we ditching the "X (formerly twitter)" line? Sad.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Twitter is dead! Take that, Elon!

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      It has finally happened?? I must post this news on Twitter.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Ok, boomer!

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

          ='(

    3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      Obligatory: Post it on Mastodon. ENB published a helpful how-to a year or so ago, awaiting the death of twitter.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "Elon is destroying X/Twitter!!!"

        - all the journos posting on it obsessively

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          To be fair, Community Notes have ruined their ability to lie unchecked which seemed to be what old Twitter was useful for.

      2. Randy Sax   2 years ago

        I hate that they used name Mastodon. I don't want one of my favorite bands associated with that bs.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Very underrated band.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            ^^

      3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Shit. I've been on Mastodon ever since ENB told us Twitter was dead. Tried to get back on Twitter and can't find it. Did they change the name or something?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

          Yeah, it's called "VIN Number" now

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

      I'm hoping we lose "your PIN number" line.

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        What's the matter? Don't you like repetitive redundancies?

    5. mad.casual   2 years ago

      How are we supposed to know if she means "a follower on the X, the platform formerly known as Twitter" vs. "someone from Gen Y" vs. "someone who just stopped following her around everywhere"?

  19. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy,"
    That's not true. Spreading "misinformation"—however you might define that pesky word—is absolutely free speech. Ditto for "hate speech," which may be defined differently depending on who you ask."

    Looks like Tampon Tim was... spreading misinformation.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      That’s (D)ifferent and you know it.

  20. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    ““Aw shucks” socialism” should make a great cudgel. Let’s hope it’s deployed quickly and widely, along with Walz's definition of "freedom of speech".

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      It’s weird is what it is.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        Imagine what is weird, unburden by what was weird...

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

          Weird that today was tomorrow yesterday and weirder that tomorrow will be today...

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      That would require republicans to be smart.

  21. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    American Stasi: Tulsi Gabbard Confirms “Quiet Skies” Nightmare
    Placed on a terror watch list, the former Hawaii congresswoman and her husband were tailed by Air Marshals and bomb dogs. “Unconstitutional on every level,” she says. “And I’m not the only one.”

    The FDI and DHS have to be completely dismantled. They are way too rotten to fix. They are now the secret police of the cabal operating the Democratic Party.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Amazing how the democrats have gone full bore stazi yet the jeffsarcs of the world continue with their imagination of Trump as Hitler.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

        TDS is a hell of a nasty disorder.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Hey, the only righteous thing to do in the face of Hitler is to go Stalin.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      …were tailed by Air Marshals and bomb dogs.

      That should make them feel safe!
      /jeff.

    3. R Mac   2 years ago

      There is no deep state.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Nope, pretty much at the surface now.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Jesus Fucking Christ. Why is this not on the front page of every publication in the nation? Oh that's right. Never mind.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        It won't even make the front page of Reason.

  22. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

    Is it misinformation if a government claims there will be mass “far right-wing” protests and the only people who show up are the far left and the islamists?

    https://x.com/sargon_of_akkad/status/1821455558714531854?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    A show of unity from minorities and communists because they LIED to these communities to spread fear through them and get them out on the streets. They're literally using them as useful idiots.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      I'm absolutely convinced this is part of some sort of 2030 op going on right now. What the point or goal is, I have no idea, but I hope it fails.

      I think that they would be doing it in the US right now too if Trump hadn't dodged.

  23. R Mac   2 years ago

    Yes. Yes, it is.

    I went on GBNews to discuss Pakistani grooming gangs in Telford.

    The next day, officers banged on my door, demanding I speak to them about my interview.

    They ignored victims for decades, but tried to intimidate me for exposing their failings on live TV.

    https://x.com/SamanthaTaghoy/status/1820811893008683281

    Lying Jeffy doesn’t believe her.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      Adolf Starmer is doing his damnedest to cover up these crimes against children. Apparently, there are public officials and police who participate in the sex crimes against minors in Rotherham. Also, it is my understanding that Starmer protected Jimmy Saville while he was alive and working at the BBC and molesting kids. That man has a shitload to answer for. Wonder if Starmer’s own name is on the Epstein client list?

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Lying Jeffy absolutely believes her, but he is an evil anti-speech piece-of-shit who gets paid to try and smother this stuff.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      #believeallwomen

  24. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    This is happening right now and like the Trucker Protest crackdown, a certain "libertarian" magazine is largely ignoring it.

    The director of public prosecutions of England and Wales warns that sharing online material of riots could be an offence

    'We do have dedicated police officers who are scouring social media to look for this material, and then follow up with arrests.'

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Well, to be fair, they aren’t “real journalists “, now are they?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

      The Labour government is deeply afraid of their populace for some reason, and I suspect the post by R Mac above has a lot to do with it.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Knives are outlawed by Perfidious Albion, but what about woodchippers?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Only if they have chippers made of spoons.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   2 years ago

            “ LOCKSLEY! I'm gonna cut your heart out with a spoon!”

      2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        The UK political elites deeply hate their native population, and they are aware that the population is growing increasingly aware of that hatred and is beginning to act accordingly.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      They are aslo threatening to take away all that free healthcare for anyone who says mean things about the peaceful and innocent "aslyum" seekers.
      https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/08/07/health-secretary-warns-the-state-will-derpive-racists-of-healthcare/

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        JFree nods in agreement.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

          Naah. JFree, trueman and Misek would be in trouble.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Well sure if it were actual racism, but I'm sure that the Health Minister meant "racism" in the same manner that JFree, Jeffy, and misconstrueman do, which is 'disagreeing with us'.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              So hating people because of their skin color isn't racist? jfk

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Getting close to the weekend boys…

              2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                No, it absolutely is racist, but that’s not what I was talking about, was it now, you demented strawman weaving fuck.

                Also, are you denying that Misconstrueman and J(ew)Free haven't been saying some incredibly anti-Semitic shit? What about your pal Buttplug? Are you onboard with his Lawn Jockey rhetoric?

      2. BYODB   2 years ago

        Called this one back when the NHS was being formed, but apparently that was totally impossible so this must be a fever dream.

        When everything is 'provided' by the government, the punishment for going against the government is losing everything. Looks like Britons are about to discover that the hardest way possible.

    4. damikesc   2 years ago

      Good to see they have cops doing this and NOT preventing the rape and murder of young girls.

      Priorities!

  25. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    "I think that there's more than one way to populate the planet—if not with children, then with other things," writes Kat Rosenfield on J.D. Vance's (quite rude) "childless cat ladies" line. "With invention and discovery. With art and beauty. With lovely things that keep blooming, long after we've left the world behind."

    That’s all well and good, Kat, but if everyone thought this way, then there would be no more art and beauty because there’s no next generation of beautiful artists. At some point, someone has to produce the next generation, and there’s really one proven method to create children.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Test tubes?

    2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      The Bokanovsky Process?

    3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Adoption?

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      These people are so far up their own ass they can consume what they had for breakfast again.

    5. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      Human trafficking?

    6. mad.casual   2 years ago

      The whole thing is retarded even just at an exceedingly superficial level. The Mona Lisa isn't a work of art because one human slathered oil on a canvas in a depiction of another human. It represents the performance of one human above their peers. It represents the recognition by others humans of that disparity.

      Kat's idea is fundamentally that, without humans, the Universe would obviously just continue to produce and marvel at its own artwork. Just superficial, tautological blathering in response to a serious criticism about how tautological blathering idiocy is replacing everything of value, including the statues and artwork that Kat holds so dear, with it's own vacuous construct of stuff useful idiots should pay attention to *now*.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        And probably the same person was cheering on the removal of statues.

    7. Eeyore   2 years ago

      You can be on top. You can be on the bottom. You can both stand. Lots of options.

    8. BYODB   2 years ago

      Look, kids are hard and it's other people's responsibility to do the hard work to keep the human race going. Their job is simply to tell everyone else how to raise kids, without ever having done it themselves, and enjoy their inherited wealth until they die alone.

      Not so hard to read between the lines on that one. This is about as Karen of a response as possible.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Their job is simply to tell everyone else how to raise kids, without ever having done it themselves, and enjoy their inherited wealth until they die alone.

        Yeah, self-righteous nihilism beyond parody of common sense.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Hey, why struggle to join the righteous, self-centered elite class if you can't treat the peasants like livestock?

  26. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    "it bears noting wherever it crops up"

    bears, trunks, popping up...

  27. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    Kamala Harris has taken a five-point lead in a head-to-head matchup with Donald Trump, according to a new nationwide poll.

    The Marquette University survey also found that when third party candidates including Robert F. Kennedy and Cornel West are added, Harris has an eight-point advantage.

    The shocking results show Harris continues to see a bump in popularity after President Joe Biden announced he wasn't running.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13723403/Shock-national-poll-shows-candidate-taking-lead-race-Donald-Trump-Kamala-Harris.html

    How? There's nothing likable about her. Nothing at all.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Hint. The media you support. The companies like Google you use for citations.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        Very good answer to a very good question.

        How popular was she in 2020?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          How about last month?

          1. BYODB   2 years ago

            I'm reminded of a black hole who's event horizon expands as they suck in more and more matter from the environment. The event horizon on the memory hole is approaching yesterday at an ever accelerating pace.

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      You’re almost there sarc!

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      “When the ballot question explicitly includes independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Libertarian Party candidate Chase Oliver, Green Party candidate Jill Stein, and independent candidate Cornel West, Harris receives 47% and Trump 41% Among registered voters.”

      Wait. Harris’ support goes up when other left wing candidates are included?
      Cornel West and Jill Stein are siphoning off Trump support?

      But wow, look at the margin of error in this one. It’s the size of her “lead”: “For likely voters, the sample size is 683 with a margin of error of +/-4.7 percentage points.

      Also it turns out that it is an internet survey: “Interviews were conducted using the SSRS Opinion Panel, a national probability sample with interviews conducted online.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Equivalent of posting a poll on reddit.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        If 2016 taught us anything, it’s that polls are super accurate and never manipulated.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          How were polls in August of 2020?

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      I assume they don't actually poll anyone, and just make up whatever shit they feel like.

    5. Eeyore   2 years ago

      DNCs marketing department can market any suitable puppet for the roll of puppet in chief. Suitability requires the ability to stand and follow directions.

  28. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    A Video from 2009 shows a veteran confronting Tim Walz’s staff over claims that he served in Afghanistan. The veteran said Walz could go to jail for violating the Stolen Valor Act of 2006 for claiming to have served in Afghanistan when he didn’t

    Who in DOL socking as now? He's a stolen valor expert and must have insights to share.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      He once posted a medal you can buy online to prove he didnt steal it. He bought it.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Keep in mind, Walz is such a shitty debater that he ended up doing a basement campaign in 2022 after Jensen pushed his shit in during their first debate.

      Contrary to his "just like us!" persona that he LARPs, the dude is incredibly thin-skinned and clearly doesn't think well on his feet. Like Harris, he's benefitted from a political environment where his side dominates the state, so he's never had to worry about being seriously challenged. Unless the press gives him the questions beforehand, which I'm absolutely positive that they will, Vance is going to wreck him in the VP debate.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        Kat Rosenfield on J.D. Vance's (quite rude) "childless cat ladies" line.

        "I can’t wait to debate the guy,” Walz said, to cheers. Then he added: “That is, if he’s willing to get off the couch and show up.”

        Wonder if Liz will make a note of how quite rude (and misinformation) this jibe is?

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Who in DOL socking as now? He’s a stolen valor expert and must have insights to share.

      *squints* Unable to tell if legitimate inquiry about expertise or backhanded insult.

      +1

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Why not both? Nobody stole valor like DOL/KAR.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          I SAID "+1"! 🙂

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Babylon Bee headline: Tim Walz Backs Out Of VP Nomination After Learning VPs Sometimes Have To Deploy To Dangerous Places Overseas

      Also:

      Kamala Harris Inspires Little Girls That If They Work Really Hard, Someday They Can Be Passed Over For A Less Qualified Person Who Slept With The Boss

      And one more:

      'They Got You In Here Too, Huh?' Says Biden As Dems Lock Kamala In Basement

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Nothing is as inspiring and empowering to girls everywhere like learning you can suck cock all the way to the presidency.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          At least with Hillary they would have learned that the path to the presidency would be a double-tap to the back of a squealer’s head. Much more empowering than scarfing dicks.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Walz is in hot water over a series of false and exaggerated claims about “weapons of war that I carried in a war”.

      CNN reports this is a false portrayal of his record.

      https://x.com/RepBrianMast/status/1821533145100955869

      And now, according to CNN, Walz LIED about carrying weapons of war in a war zone.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

        In the same clip where he says he carried weapons of war in war, he attacks reciprocal carry rules that states have enacted and a ban on "weapons of war", which seems to refer to semi-automatic modern sporting rifles, which have never been used in a war by any regular army.

  29. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    ""I think that there's more than one way to populate the planet—"

    No, there is not. At least, not without changing what one means by "populating". This is a nihilstic coping that accepts decline and extinction.

  30. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy,"

    Walz started out with an example of campaigners telling people to vote on the wrong day or using intimidation tactics on voters at the polls, but then wanders off on "pushing back" and then this general "no guarantee of free speech" bit and, having strayed into more general free speech territory, seemed like he was trying to steer back to attacks on "our democracy".

    What is more telling was a) that the whole thing was done in the context of him efforts to get felons to vote and make it "easier" to vote (which often seems to translate "easier to cheat") b) that he thanks MSNBC for "their good work" promoting efforts to lay elections bare to everyone with a pulse and saying something like "our efforts are not about Republicans or Democrats" as if he supported a single thing that might make more Republicans vote.

  31. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    STOLEN VALOR gets worse for Kamala Harris’ VP pick…

    Here is @Tim_Walz on CSPAN back in 2007 on his military service

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      “THIS IS IN THE OFFICIAL CONGRESSIONAL RECORD!”

      So are we to the point we’re about to see Congressional records changed by the regime?

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        The official Congressional Record isn't really all that sacred. There's a ton of bullshit in it. Christine Blasey Ford is on the official congressional record.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Well she did testify before congress, so she should be.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

            And she avoided a perjury charge thanks to a poor memory. Still credible according to Reason.

  32. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    Vance and Harris planes on the tarmac at Wisconsin airport at the same time.

    https://x.com/StrattonWISN/status/1821245624735461531

    Vance comes over to cameras covering AF2 arrival...

    "... hopefully it's going to be my plane in a few months. I also thought you guys may get lonely, bc the VP doesn't answer q's from reporters..."

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      “… hopefully it’s going to be my plane in a few months. I also thought you guys may get lonely, bc the VP doesn’t answer q’s from reporters…”

      Shots fired.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Shots fired.

        Hopefully not. I know J.D. Vance is only 5'7" because Google says so, but that still makes the Big Deborah Secret Service Agent next to him something like 4'10".

        1. BYODB   2 years ago

          Republicans should be glad to get a 4'10 woman as a secret service agent.

          Democrats, of course, have to make due with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dwayne Johnson lookalikes. It's their cross to bear, and they don't like to make a big deal out of it.

          After all, those DEI hires have to work somewhere in the Secret Service. Democrats love that stuff...for other people that is.

          /sarc, in case it isn't obvious. I have no idea how bulky Democrat Secret Service agents are.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            That said, the standards for women to work a Secret Service detail is definitively lower than for men.

            My understanding of Crooks online history, Stormy Daniels topless would've been more effective at disrupting or delaying his attempted assassination than any Large Marge or Big Deborah Secret Service Agent I've seen.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      P.S. Examples of the Celebration Parallax on full display in the comments on that tweet.

      The Celebration Parallax may be stated as: “the same fact pattern is either true and glorious or false and scurrilous depending on who states it.”

      The people saying it was an awesome troll of the VP and the people saying it was cringeworthy action by the weird man would immediately reverse positions had Harris done the same thing to Vance.

      Also worth mentioning the couch misinformation being repeated. It's (D)ifferent.

    3. Rick James   2 years ago

      That dude makes some absolutely based comments. That's 3 for 3 in my count.

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        I know, right? That was so fetch.

  33. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Spreading "misinformation"—however you might define that pesky word—is absolutely free speech.

    Acknowledging 'pesky': the spreading of disfavorable, untrue, or not-definitively-known information is absolutely free speech. Loud, destructive, pervasive noise as a heckler's veto, denial of service, or forced occupation is not absolutely free speech in either the "as in beer" or "as in a well informed populace" sense.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Politically popular speech has always been protected: even the Jews were free to say 'Heil Hitler.'" ~ Isaac Asimov

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

        ^+1

  34. mtrueman   2 years ago

    Annihilation is a possibility for Israel. Their leaders have claimed right from the start that this is an existential war - that the existence of Israel lies in the balance. It's time we took them seriously. Personally, I don't think it needs to go as far as annihilation. If Team Iran can manage to reduce Israel to Gaza levels of destruction, remaining Israelis will be ready to seek peace.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

      FOAD, Nazi shit-pile.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Was Mizek always an mtrue sock?

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      “Annihilation is a possibility for Israel.”

      This may be the single stupidest thing you’ve written in a while, and you're a pro at writing stupid things, so that’s not faint praise.

      Aside from the fact that all the Arab states see Iran as a far bigger threat than Israel, Israel’s own defence system and nuclear weapons program are fifty years ahead of Iran’s.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        Do you the meaning of 'existential?' As in 'we're fighting an existential war against the forces of barbarism.'

        This is said in reference to Hamas, but Iran is potentially a stronger foe, capable of inflicting greater damage to Israel.

        "Aside from the fact that all the Arab states see Iran as a far bigger threat than Israel"

        The most powerful nations in the region are not Arab. They are Iranian, Turkish or Jewish. Some Arab states, Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon, etc see Iran as a supporter. The others seem comfortable enough with Iran. Saudi Arabia recently re-established diplomatic relations with Iran. Something the US or Israel haven't managed so far.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          Yup, it's the US and Israel's fault they do not have relations with Iran.

          Of course.

          Good to know how little you think of the Iranians.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            Annihilation is a possibility for Israel. Their leaders have claimed right from the start that this is an existential war – that the existence of Israel lies in the balance. It’s time we took them seriously. Personally, I don’t think it needs to go as far as annihilation. If Team Iran can manage to reduce Israel to Gaza levels of destruction, remaining Israelis will be ready to seek peace.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

              FOAD, Nazi shit-pile.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          “Do you the meaning of ‘existential?’ As in ‘we’re fighting an existential war against the forces of barbarism.’”

          But you didn’t say ‘existential’. You said “Annihilation is a possibility for Israel”, which is a ridiculous and clownish assertion that is nothing more than the fevered dream of a Jew hater.

          Why do the Jeffsarc magic friends imagine nobody can read their previous posts so they can make up whatever they want and nobody will notice?

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            Maybe Israel will no longer exist but at the same time will avoid annihilation. I smell desperation. Did you just drop a pant load of joopoo?

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Did you just drop a pant load of joopoo?

              Oh wow! "Joopoo".

              I'm not Jewish, but I can still recognize what that was. There's no denying what you are any more.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                Will pair well in the future with this one:

                mtrueman 2 days ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                And where would you prefer 9 year olds to learn about sex? Are there any porn sites on the web you could point to that you think would do a better, more responsible job? I’m pretty sure most 9 year olds masturbate. It’s easy to do and is a source of innocent merriment.

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                  You fall back on obsessing about children touching themselves. Have you nothing of substance to add?

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    Young kids don't masturbate like that unless guys like you are fiddling with them.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      Voice of experience?

                  2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                    You're the one who admitted to thinking about nine-year-olds masturbating. Don't get in a huff for us pointing out your fetish.

                    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      You're not following. It was the mother character that is constantly raising the topic of children touching themselves. It's happened in the past few days when I've stated my case on an entirely different issue, in this case Israel, and there is no response. Change of topic. You do much the same thing only red baiting is your bag. When you realize I've out logicked you, you start with the marxist nonsense.

              2. mtrueman   2 years ago

                Enough about the destruction of Israel. Let's move on to more important things. Me!

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "The Zionist regime [Israel] will soon receive a strong and definite response, and there is no doubt about it," said Abdolrahim Mousavi, the chief commander of Iran's army, on Wednesday. "It is clear that they themselves have realized the speed of their own destruction, and by doing so, they want to save themselves from the quagmire, but they definitely cannot save themselves from annihilation."

    You know who else likes to talk about annihilating their opposition?

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      The DNC?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Better learn to start shooting straight.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          can't even pipe bomb right lol.

    2. Dillinger   2 years ago

      Ditka?

    3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      Jehovah?

  36. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    '"There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech and especially around our democracy," Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz'

    Except for government agencies (including licensed media), right?

  37. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Walz is not alone in misunderstanding free speech'

    Is "misunderstanding" like "misinformation"? Will this be the next crime? Are we guilty when we just don't get it in way the officially approved narrative wants us to?

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Are we guilty when we just don’t get it in way the officially approved narrative wants us to?

      Yes, they proved that true 4 years ago during lockdowns. Walz had his state set up hotlines.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Those misunderstandings of pesky definitions are everywhere, man. Just waiting to pounce.

  38. Rick James   2 years ago

    But right now the entire region—specifically, Iran and its proxies—appears to be on the brink of retaliation directed toward Israel, which took out Fuad Shukr, one of Hezbollah's top military commanders, and Ismail Haniyeh, one of Hamas' top political leaders. Israel claims it assassinated Shukr in retaliation for a rocket attack from Hezbollah that killed 12 kids. (The killing of Haniyeh probably needs no explanation, given the events of October 7, in which Hamas came into Israel and murdered 1,200 in the single most brutal day of carnage Israel has ever seen.)

    Meanwhile, we've got naval assets moving into the area and preparing for war, and no one in the media seems even remotely curious about who's ordering it, or who's in charge.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Seems funny to compare/contrast with when Trump Tweeted "I'm meeting with the joint chiefs..." and ENB leapt to "This is it! He's started WWIII! We're going to war!" before he Tweeted out the "... we're defunding the military's transgender social experiment." predicate.

  39. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Citizens are openly questioning why Beijing is spending so much money on a sporting event when many at home are facing bleak economic prospects.'

    Kulaks!

  40. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    ”I think that there’s more than one way to populate the planet—”

    "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
    - Colonel Nathan R. Jessup

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      +1

      If you wanted to populate the planet with radioactive ash for the next several decades, maybe a couple of centuries, we *might* be able to do that. Otherwise, it's going to require, at least in part, the one way to populate anything.

  41. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"The Zionist regime [Israel] will soon receive a strong and definite response, and there is no doubt about it," said Abdolrahim Mousavi

    como dice serious this time! here it comes! any minute now! in Farsi?

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Check with Jfree up above. He seems to think the Iranians are victims of misinformation.

    2. JFree   2 years ago

      If someone wrote – the Biden regime [US] will soon receive a blahblahblah – or the theocratic ayatollah regime [Iran] will soon receive a blahblahblah – would you characterize those threats/promises as existential/genocidal or regime change type threats?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        Iran thinks threats are louder than bombs.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        Yes. Why wouldn't you?

  42. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"With invention and discovery. With art and beauty. With lovely things that keep blooming, long after we've left the world behind."

    stop wasting your words and time and get to it, Kat Rosenfeld.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Gaia cult is a death cult, as it always has been

  43. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Citizens are openly questioning ... Beijing

    in Beijing?

  44. mad.casual   2 years ago

    "I think that there's more than one way to populate the planet—if not with children, then with other things," writes Kat Rosenfield on J.D. Vance's (quite rude) "childless cat ladies" line. "With invention and discovery. With art and beauty. With lovely things that keep blooming, long after we've left the world behind."

    Meet the new over-concerned, nanny-state, sensitivity-reader Karens, same as the old over-concerned, nanny-state, sensitivity-reader Karens.

    1. Rick James   2 years ago

      I’m not even sure what to make of Rosenfeld’s near non-sequitur, here. Is she making a tacit “Ok, it’s happening, and it’s as bad as you say, and it’s a good thing” argument?

      Is she referring to AI art in the absence of people who can… you know, make it? Is all this ‘invention and discovery’ going to happen in a kind of… last minute spasm as humanity departs the earth and turns out the lights?

      I have to admit, I’m a bit perplexed.

      1. Rick James   2 years ago

        And lastly, how many cats DOES Rosenfeld have?

    2. Rick James   2 years ago

      I ought to be in favor of anything that speeds up the end of the meal, but Blackbird's new checkless exit gives me the creeps. It is just the latest in a series of changes that have gradually and steadily stripped the human touch and the human voice out of restaurants.

      I believe this is what we call "populating the world with invention, discovery, art and beauty'.

  45. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    Harrison Butker doubles down on his controversial commencement speech: 'I stand behind what I said'

    "Speaking truth to power" and challenging the status quo. Dude's got bigger balls than Norm McDonald trashing Kobe at the ESPYs.

    Take note, Bush and Goldberg Republicans--this is what actual principle and political courage looks like. Something you possess in very little supply as you gargle the cum of your lefty masters.

  46. Rick James   2 years ago

    Good insight from an X follower, summing up my own tweets more concisely than I ever could:

    Aww-shucks socialism is a battering ram for socialism.

  47. Rick James   2 years ago

    In a first-of-its-kind lawsuit, Planned Parenthood is being sued for medical malpractice by detransitioners who claim the organization inadequately assessed plaintiffs' mental health prior to providing cross-sex hormones. The Free Press has more.

    Hey Liz, did Gillespie make margin notes about "promethean transformations" when you submitted this?

  48. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    Media running interference for KH's pro-Palestinian decision. The cover story here is "by all accounts, the reason that Harris chose Walz over Shapiro is that she thought Walz would be a better fit with and for her."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/no-josh-shapiro-wasn-t-snubbed-for-vp-because-he-s-jewish/ar-AA1osrfh

    The New York Times offered, “Vice President Kamala Harris faced a difficult choice when it came to Israel and her running mate: Selecting Gov. Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania could mollify many Jewish voters and other centrists over a subject that has bedeviled the Biden-Harris administration for nearly a year, Israel’s war in Gaza,” and argued that antisemitism was surging on the left.

    On CNN, Van Jones spoke of “antisemitism that has gotten marbled into this party” and asked “how much of what just happened is caving into these darker parts of the party.”

  49. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

    Celebration Parallax example #2 for the day.

    [See https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/ for discussion of the Celebration Parallax].

    Remember when Biden said ‘If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black’?

    At worst, the media response was maybe "Perhaps he could have phrased it better", but mostly it was "Yeah, he's 100% right!"

    Now Trump: “Any Jewish person who votes for a Democrat or votes for Biden should have their head examined.”

    By most media accounts, this makes Trump literally Hitler.

    I especially like the ones that make special note of the fact that "Kamala Harris, who's married to a Jewish man..." while making no notice at all of Trump's daughter, who converted to Judaism (Orthodox), keeps kosher, and Trump is glad she did. “I want to thank my Jewish daughter. I have a Jewish daughter,” Donald Trump said when accepting the Liberty Award at The Algemeiner’s ‘Jewish 100’ Gala in New York City in 2015. “This wasn’t in the plan but I’m very glad it happened.”

    “He is fundamentally somebody who believes that it’s his civic duty to speak his mind and often say what’s not popular and what others are afraid to,” she (Ivanka Trump) added. “He has used his voice often and loudly in support of Israel and in support of developments within Israel, in support of security for Israel and in support of the idea of Israeli democracy.”

    On stage, Trump concluded his acceptance speech by asserting his strong support for the Jewish state. He told the audience, “We love Israel. We will fight for Israel 100 percent, 1,000 percent. It will be there forever.”

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Celebration Parallax No. 3:
      Survey: 63 Percent of Americans Support Free Trade.

      When half of the respondents were asked if they "favor or oppose the United States increasing trade with other nations," 63 percent were in favor. (The other half were instead asked if they "favor or oppose people in the United States trading more with people from other nations," to which a smaller majority of 53 percent responded favorably.)

      Either the CATO respondees think governments should be able to compel more trade or perform more trade with goods they don't own, or they're just racists who don't trust foreigners to trade with natives without government management.

  50. Uncle Jay   2 years ago

    The shit bags in Tehran have been calling for Israel's death since 1979, so this isn't exactly news.
    What is news is all the pro-Hamas pigs on the campuses in the US and even in Congress like Tlaib, AOC, and Omar.

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