'Heritage Americans' Were Unassimilated Immigrants Once Too
Ellis Island arrivals maintained close ties to the Old World for generations. Nativists want us to forget that.

The immigrants keep coming, and they're not assimilating. Unlike our immigrant ancestors, who came to America and never looked back, they still maintain ties to their old country, waving their foreign flags and reading their news in another language, bringing along cousins and friends from their village. Of course I'm talking about Basque shepherds, who settled the Rocky Mountains in the 19th century and continued to welcome new arrivals into their ethnic clubs more than 100 years later.
Almost everyone in this country has ancestors who came from somewhere else. So nativists are now arguing that immigration now is simply different from their ancestors' immigration. "A Peter Thiel point on this I return to often is that the settlers who became Americans in the 19th century were—for most intents and purposes—dead to the Old World," writes Micah Meadowcroft, research director at the national conservative Center for American Renewal. "Today, thanks to communication and transportation tech, migrants never have to fully leave home psychologically."
That's simply not true. Since ancient times, immigrants have maintained a sense of connection to the lands they left behind. ("By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion," goes the psalm. "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.") The diasporas of 19th century America were no exception. They organized newspapers, social clubs, political organizations, and informal networks that let them keep a foot in the Old Country, sometimes for generations.
While technology has made it easier to stay up to date and travel back every so often, the same innovations have also made it harder to avoid assimilating into broader American society. Even famously insular religious communities, like the Amish and Orthodox Jews, are on social media now. And to some extent, new immigrants now come "pre-assimilated": People around the world, especially those who want to emigrate, are familiar with American pop culture and the English language to a degree that was simply impossible when boatloads of Europeans fanned out across the frontier.
For decades, for example, northern Wisconsin was a little Finland, with entire towns built by immigrants who did business, socialized, and prayed almost entirely in Finnish. And they held onto those ties for generations. The Evangelical Lutheran Church of Oulu continued to have Finnish-language services through the 1950s. The Wisconsin-based Finnish-language newspaper Työväen Osuustoimintalehti didn't close down until 1965. Between television and TikTok, that level of isolation from English-speaking society would be impossible to maintain today. Around half of Finns inside Finland now speak English.
The Chicago Foreign Language Press Survey collected 116,553 pages of foreign-language newspapers published in America from 1855 to 1938. These papers made it clear that their readers were not "dead to the Old World." In 1897, the Lithuanian-American weekly Lietva stated that ethnic schools are "the only institution that can uplift the intellect of our brothers and inspire our children with the Lithuanian spirit." In 1910, the Czechoslovak-American weekly Denni Hlasatel complained that the U.S. Census would not recognize Slavic identities, much like the recent campaign to have "Middle Eastern" added as a census category.
Some old-time European immigrants engaged in identity politics so blatant that they would make modern woke academics blush. A week before the U.S. elections of 1922, Denni Hlasatel stated that "Czechoslovak voters, both men and women, should forever bear in mind that there are four of our countrymen on the Democratic ticket and not one on the Republican, and act accordingly next Tuesday." Six years later, the Bolletino of the Italo-American National Union reminded its readers that "various Italians are candidates for different offices. It is our duty to vote for them regardless of our party affiliations."
When President Theodore Roosevelt complained that "a hyphenated American is not an American at all," he cited German, Irish, English, French, Scandinavian, and Italian Americans as the threat to the nation. The people that Meadowcroft considers examplars of good assimilation were seen a century earlier as an unassimilated subversive element. Italian Americans in particular were maligned as carriers of religious extremism, political violence, and organized crime; the largest mass lynching in American history targeted so-called "sneaking and cowardly Sicilians, the descendants of bandits and assassins" in New Orleans.
Some modern nativists make a more sophisticated argument, conceding that earlier immigrants changed America but wanting to freeze the clock on that change. Chronicles podcast host C. Jay Engel recently wrote that his definition of American identity "includes the type of people that came here during the Ellis Island generation, even if that was a significant sociopolitical mistake. We are also the product of our mistakes as a nation." Engel's preferred cutoff point for American identity is World War II, the last time he believes that America was "centered around the experiences and norms of Anglo-Protestants."
Why not make the cutoff earlier, before the massive waves of Southern and Eastern European immigration through Ellis Island diluted Anglo-Protestant culture? (The fact that Engel himself has Italian grandparents shows why that would not be politically feasible in America.) Or if we agree that those Ellis Islanders irreversibly became part of the American fabric, then why not include later waves of immigrants?
According to Engel, it is because "some peoples are less threatening" to Anglo-Protestant society than others. "Irish or Italians or Catholics may not fit the original core," he writes, "but were closer on the spectrum, being Europeans." Therefore, they could be assimilated, while recent non-European arrivals are not "capable of fitting in and should be sent home immediately."
Like Meadowcroft's claims about settlers, Engel's classification of "Heritage Americans" is historically illiterate. Not every immigrant in the 19th century was European—and some were born as far from Europe as could be.
The first major law restricting immigration to America, after all, was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. And one of its most notorious acts during World War II was the internment of Japanese Americans, many of whose families had lived on the Pacific coast for generations. A forgotten incident in the same vein was the Hindu Conspiracy Trial during World War I, a California-centered panic about Indian-American support for resistance to the British Empire. These instances of nativist backlash reveal just how much Asian Americans contributed to settling the western frontier.
Paterson, New Jersey, a city famous for renaming its main street "Palestine Way," has had an Arab-American community since the 19th century, when Syrian silk weavers helped build the local garment industry. There is a similarly old Arab diaspora in Michigan, which has also hosted many generations of Armenian Americans. Both of these communities have continued to welcome new immigrants while keeping the memory of the old country alive. There is no neat separation between "Heritage Americans" and newcomers along ethnic lines.
Basque shepherds first came to the American frontier with the Gold Rush of 1849, and dominated California's sheep industry through the 1970s. They were often the first and only settlers in remote parts of the Rockies. Basque-American men would frequently return to Spain and France to look for wives or recruit new workers. Despite being European, those Basques did not adopt the "ways and habits and standards of culture and behavior" of "Heritage Americans," as Engel put it. Instead, they created Basque bubbles in America, some of which still exist today.
"After church, Basques line up outside the Pyrenees Bakery for the thick-crust, sourdough 'shepherds loaf' for their Sunday meal. Others gather at the Basque Club for a game of pelota (Basque handball) or a card game called mus," the Los Angeles Times stated in 1989, describing the Basque quarter of Bakersfield, California. "By late afternoon, the bar at the Noriega Hotel is filled with sheepmen and the descendants of sheepmen drinking Picon punch, a heady blend of brandy, grenadine, soda and Amer Picon aperitif."
Just as some of the oldest American communities have maintained their ties to the Old World, some of the newest arrivals have been eager to slam the door behind them. A few months ago, a Fox News reporter encountered a group of Turkish immigrants sneaking from Mexico to California without papers. Moments after crossing, one of them told the reporter that Americans should be worried about "no security" on the border. "Who comes into this country? They don't know," the man said. "OK, I'm good. But how if they're not good?"
That's the American immigration debate in a nutshell: Someone who arrived 10 minutes ago trying to keep out the people who arrived five minutes ago. Although "Heritage Americans" may be separated from the immigrant experience by a few more decades, it's only a difference of degree. The fundamental message is still the same. OK, my ancestors were good. But those guys doing the same thing? They're not.
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It's different this time. Because. If you disagree you're a leftist.
maybe heritage immigrants weren't heritage ILLEGAL immigrants
Government papers are MAGIC.
If it comes to a surgical mask, for sure magic.
Sarc defended Covid passports here (and I have the receipts to prove it if he tries to deny), but requiring narcotraficantes not to sneak in? That’s a bridge to far. Give them $2k/mo. and a free home.
If you repeat the same lie enough it becomes truth.
Like every talking point you have supporting open borders?
What lie, Sarckles?
Are you denying you defended Covid passports?
Or are you denying that many illegals are getting $2k a month tax free, plus housing, plus food, plus medical while their papers are being processed?
Nobody is above the law.
Government papers are MAGIC.
Sarc argued this viewpoint with traffic cops after his first DUI resulted in getting his license taken away.
Seriously though, imagine being so stupid and dishonest that you try to pretend that this is what the problem with illegal immigration is.
Imagine hating people so much that their very existence causes you bowel problems.
The word “visceral” applies here.
ML and others suffer from physical problems due to their hatred over politics.
Wow. To hate that much over something over which they have no control, that influences when they poop.
So much hate.
Are you projecting again?
I get it. You don't make enough to pay taxes so have no care when government takes from some to give to others. Doesn't make it libertarian.
I get it. The head pats from Jeff are your only form of human physical contact.
"Imagine hating people so much that their very existence causes you bowel problems.
The word “visceral” applies here.
ML and others suffer from physical problems due to their hatred over politics.
Wow. To hate that much over something over which they have no control, that influences when they poop.
So much hate."
Sarcasmic is a gift when he forgets he's an angry drunken troll and tries to present himself as the soul of reason.
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Mother’s Lament is the worst human being I’ve ever been unfortunate enough to communicate with in my entire life. I wouldn’t piss on his face if his teeth were on fire. So I really don’t care what he supports.
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I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out, while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is my circus.
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I like to stir shit up. So what.
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You really need a hobby.
You seem to think Help Wanted signs are magic.
yes, a different time when immigration to the US would be periodically slowed to allow immigrants time to assimilate. And again, per reference to my link in the other thread, the name of the immigration game was, "Welcome to America, good luck finding work, try not to die of consumption."
yes, a different time when immigration to the US would be periodically slowed to allow immigrants time to assimilate.
That's not really true when it comes to European immigration. Before about 1920 or so, the laws restricting immigration were targeted mostly at the Chinese, and 'undesirables', but not classes of European immigrants by nationality.
Jeffy unaware of Irish immigration to the US. Not surprised.
You are right, I was referring to federal immigration laws.
Prior to the opening of Ellis Island in 1892, states not the federal government handled immigration.
ImperialJeff was never big on federalism.
are on social media now. And to some extent, new immigrants now come "pre-assimilated": People around the world, especially those who want to emigrate, are familiar with American pop culture and the English language to a degree that was simply impossible when boatloads of Europeans fanned out across the frontier.
I like how this is a one-way street.
Did Reason really need another Fiona?
Almost everyone in this country has ancestors who came from somewhere else.
Humans aren't native to the Americas. The "native" americans are really East Asian immigrants.
That's the American immigration debate in a nutshell: Someone who arrived 10 minutes ago trying to keep out the people who arrived five minutes ago.
pretty much, and it's been happening for a while now
Jewish Americans are certainly enjoying the attentions of newly arrived Muslims.
I know I enjoyed seeing those creeps burning my flag on the Fourth of July.
In the early 20th century Dearborn MI was heavily populated by Catholic Arabs, Lebanese and Syrian. Dearborn is still largely populated by Arabs but they are Muslims. The Catholics are mostly gone or 2nd class citizens. They eat the same food but beyond that they have little in common. We could argue about whether this a good thing or a bad thing or whether or not assimilation has taken place but the Catholic Arabs in Dearborn were not anti Semites.
@Matthew Petti: put up or shut up; if you are truly all about immigration and culture and there's really nothing new doing on here, move to Dearborn and embrace the diversity.
But he doesn't have to move to Dearborn, nor do any of us. That's the best part about this story. We can all choose our own cultural milieus (up to a point, anyway) and we don't have to adopt some suffocating conformist culture, and we can still all be Americans.
Radical individualist for balkanization!
lol
'radical individualist' in favor of individuals choosing their own cultural milieu with which they choose to associate?
Yes!
But if you disagree with me, tell me what you think should happen to Dearborn, or Hamtramck, or places with a large Arab-American population.
Stop filling them with more new immigrants who are still practicing the failed cultures they are fleeing and let their children assimilate and the old bitter clingers die off.
And how do you plan to accomplish this?
You can't be that dumb.....oh wait I know what you want to hear.
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No, I'm asking you how you plan to accomplish your goal.
You said: "Stop filling them with more new immigrants who are still practicing the failed cultures they are fleeing and let their children assimilate and the old bitter clingers die off."
How do you plan to accomplish this?
We can all choose our own cultural milieus
But you don't actually want that, because you believe any community choosing a right-wing cultural milieu should be forced to not be so.
A town based on AFD Germans fleeing political persecution who fail to integrate or allow any outsiders would be Jeff's worse nightmare.
I don’t think that at all. If you want to set up a completely voluntary right-wing community I think you should have every right to do so. But the community should not have the legal authority to force individuals to obey community standards unrelated to rights violations, and shouldn’t have the right to kick out people who wish to stay and who have otherwise not violated anyone’s rights. And that would be true of any voluntary community.
If you want to set up a completely voluntary right-wing community I think you should have every right to do so.
I think it’s pretty clear that your end goal here is a culturally homogeneous society where the dissenters are treated as heretics and driven out, or worse.
Make up your mind, fat boy.
But the community should not have the legal authority to force individuals to obey community standards unrelated to rights violations, and shouldn’t have the right to kick out people who wish to stay and who have otherwise not violated anyone’s rights.
A "voluntary community" is restrictive by nature. Or have you not heard of how HOAs operate?
What really chaps your ass is that your leftist allies might not be allowed to insinuate their deviancy and subversion into functioning, high-trust communities.
So what you're saying is that people on the right can freely associate so long as someone on the left doesn't want to live among them without their consent.
And only insofar as the community doesn't enforce actual community.
You beat me. See my comment above.
Just get really sick of the “embrace diversity” bullshit, as though this is an end in itself. When immigrants resist assimilation to this degree, your culture balkanizes. Should anyone doubt this, take a look at France.
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Yet another Reason propaganda piece trying vainly to make us think legal immigration years ago is the same as illegal border sneaking now.
Not buying it Matt.
Since it's relevant again, I'll just link this effort post that I made yesterday on the topic of immigration.
https://reason.com/2024/07/07/bidens-election-year-border-order/?comments=true#comment-10630467
Briefly, I advocate that we think of public property as being held in trust by the government to pursue its mission of securing liberty. By this measure, public roads ought to be open to all, since they facilitate freedom of association. This is in contrast to the Hoppean/Dave Smith/Mises Caucus interpretation, which apparently holds that public property ought to be restricted to be used only by whatever the taxpayers say it should be used for.
How about you do everyone a favor and lie down in one of those public roads.
"The Public" means everyone else. So when cops order you around and demand identification they are serving "The Public." As in everyone else who can't order you around. But you? You're nothing. You serve the public servant.
Similarly, public spaces belong to everyone else. They don't belong to anyone who is using them. Those people need to show paperwork and proof that they are worthy of using that space that is owned by everyone else. If their papers are out of order, well that makes them a criminal.
In order to protect the public from criminals without papers, the police need stop-and-identify powers. Problem is that they're going to violate rights all day long if they have that power. So they need total immunity as well.
Only then can we remove those vile vermin from the blood of the nation.
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In order to protect the public from criminals without papers, the police need stop-and-identify powers. Problem is that they’re going to violate rights all day long if they have that power. So they need total immunity as well.
Unironically, I think that is where we are headed. And the so-called 'libertarians' around here will cheer it on with ends-justify-the-means reasoning devoid of any solid libertarian principle.
They're illegal. Rights? Who cares? Catching the vermin is what matters. If you oppose expanded police powers you are in illegal immigrant lover. Know what we do to people like you?
Youre responding to someone who defended illegals raping underage girls and asking who cares. Lol.
I personally like the mute button; haven't read any rants posted by this troll since the option first appeared.
You are missing some good entertainment.
This.
lol, so in Jesse's world, advocating for justice for all, including migrants, means 'defending illegals raping underage girls' because illegals don't deserve due process wtf just catapult them over the border or execute them or something.
""“The Public” means everyone else.""
Has this ever been true anywhere in history? "The Public" means the ruling party. As in People's Republic of China".
Public housing belongs to government.
Public transportation belongs to government.
The only thing "public" is who pays the bill.
Not sure what your point is..
Because you're a fucking moron in denial about costs associated with your non libertarian takings. First government taking for public use. Then government taking to fund illegals. Nothing you support is libertarian. It is marxist.
https://www.marxist.com/video-why-marxists-must-fight-for-open-borders.htm
Youre just too delusional to understand.
Jesse's level of retarded argumentation skills:
Jesse loves his mom.
Hitler loved his mom.
Therefore Jesse is a Nazi.
Guess what, even if Marxists want "open borders", and I also argue for looser immigration policies, it doesn't mean everyone who advocates for looser immigration policies are Marxists.
Incidentally, it is the same type of retarded argumentation skills that their heroes like James Lindsay routinely engages in. "Hey look guys, I found this dusty academic paper from this radical academic nutjob in which the author advocates for transgender people to indoctrinate children into being gay! Therefore, every tranny is a gay groomer! QED muthafuckas!" It's stupid and sophomoric but it fools the idiots like Jesse out there, and apparently there are a lot of idiots because Lindsay sure does get a lot of likes on his videos.
Jeff and sarc continue to deny the actual costs they want others to fund. Jeff in particular wants all children to be public property especially for illegals who rape. Sarc seems okay with this.
Can sarc or Jeff admit who funds public infrastructure?
Taxpayers fund public infrastructure. Duh.
Do you think that that means taxpayers should have the right to dictate directly what happens on public property? For example, if the taxpayers decided that they wanted to ban the transportation of socialist literature on public roads, should the taxpayers' decision be enforced?
If taxpayers want to ban mentally ill drug addicts from camping in public parks, defecating on public streets, and generally making said parks unusable by aforementioned taxpayers, should their decision be enforced?
Do you think that that means taxpayers should have the right to dictate directly what happens on public property? For example, if the taxpayers decided that they wanted to ban the transportation of socialist literature on public roads, should the taxpayers’ decision be enforced?
Yes.
The people own the roads. The government administers them at the sufferance of the people. Public servants are SERVANTS and must be made to relearn this. They need to know their place. At the foot of the lowest.
Until they get off the public teat and get a job not financed by force.
Someone who wants more child molesters to enter the country isn't really in a position to wax hypothetical about public property or your dumb glittering generalities.
It has been amazing watching sarc and Jeff just latch on to sophomoric arguments no matter how many times they are refuted or mocked. They don't want debate. They want advocacy of terrible policy. No matter how much information or links given they will ignore the actual arguments centering in costs and other negative externalities.
Someone who wants more child molesters to enter the country
lol another complete lie. Pointing out that asylum claims ought to be judged based on the conduct of the oppressor, rather than on the conduct of the oppressed, is not the same as explicitly wanting more of anyone in the country.
So in your mind, we should let in known predators and killers if their government is oppressing them?
My argument is a moral one, not a pragmatic one. The whole moral concept of asylum is to protect individuals fleeing oppression from their government. And oppression can occur to both saints and sinners. So to determine who deserves asylum in a moral sense, one ought to look at the actions of the oppressor, and not the actions of the oppressed.
This stands in contrast to people like RRWP who evidently believe that asylum is a privilege that ought to be extended only to those who are morally worthy. So sure, tyrants can oppress both saints and sinners, but the sinners don't deserve asylum because they've done bad things too. That is the argument that I see people like RRWP making.
On a practical level, who comes here on the basis of an asylum claim is determined by a number of factors including finite resources and popular support for such a program. So I can completely understand, based on pragmatic utilitarian arguments, why some sinners who have done some rather horrible things are moved to the back of the line when it comes to priority for asylum. It doesn't mean those individuals don't deserve asylum in some moral sense, and it certainly doesn't mean that tyrants are justified in oppressing sinners because they are sinners.
Child molesters are immoral people, and deserve a bullet to the head, along with their defenders.
We have no moral obligation to let in people who have demonstrated a complete lack of regard for their fellow man (murderers, rapist, child abusers, etc), regardless of what they claim their governments are doing to them.
That is what everyone else is saying.
Pointing out that asylum claims ought to be judged based on the conduct of the oppressor, rather than on the conduct of the oppressed,
What a shock that chemtard frames his position in the oppressed/oppressor language of marxists. That's why he whined that not letting in child molesters was decreasing their liberty.
That means he wants more child molesters in the country.
TBF, oppressed/oppressor language is a little difficult to not use when discussing asylum claims. Asylum is literally supposed to be for people who are being oppressed by their governments.
Yeah, but they aren't claiming asylum due to government oppression, they're claiming that rouge gangs will kill them. That ain't the same thing.
It basically took Bukele shoving all these people into prison to make El Salvador safe enough for people to walk the streets again. For all the complaints about the "prison industrial complex," we haven't even come close to putting most of our violent population behind bars like he did.
Uh, no, it's actually quite well-known that Ellis Island immigrants conducted chain migration and maintained strong enough ties to the their homeland that many actually left the US and went back to their native countries. It is, in fact, why so many laws restricting immigration began to be passed from 1880-onward.
The only people trying to make everyone forget that is the open borders crowd, because they don't actually believe border enforcement should be a thing and anyone who wants to migrate to a (western) nation should be allowed to do so without limits.
Heritage Americans? The local college professors says there is no such thing. There are colonist from Europe and immigrants from everywhere else.
Millions of Siberians emigrated to Alaska a couple of eons ago, and nobody asked them for their papers.
And look at the damage they wreaked on the Americas.
Mass extinctions.
So nativists are now arguing that immigration now is simply different from their ancestors' immigration.
Which, of course, is objectively true since immigration circa 1900 was an entirely different animal to immigration circa 2000.
A list of the differences between those two years would fill an entire book, so I won't bother going in depth with that analysis but to anyone with even a passing knowledge of history that should be evident at face value.
Reason just doesn’t get it. It’s not ‘immigrant’ the natives are against. It is the mentality of those ‘immigrants’ that they can avoid responsibility and vote for MORE socialism in the USA of which accounts for 9 out 10 of the current ‘immigrant’ status.
It's the same reason no [R] state wants to be invaded by Commie-CA.
'Close ties' doesn't mean not assimilated.
Also, their 'close ties' were usually to extended family - not large criminal gangs.
An example.
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/who-tren-de-aragua-violent-venezuelan-gang
Sarc and Jeff support.
Funny how Jesse never links articles like these.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-high-school-valedictorians-undocumented-immigrants-face-backlash/story?id=39724082
In this article, it is reported that two valedictorians from Texas high schools revealed themselves to be undocumented immigrants. Valedictorians! And they are college bound!
What? You mean they aren't violent thugs? You mean they aren't just lazy moochers sitting around the couch all day playing video games and counting those sweet sweet food stamps? No way!
Instead, every article that Jesse and his ilk post, depicts illegal immigrants in the most negative light possible. Whey they aren't raping or murdering people, they are lazy moochers.
This is because Jesse, being a good little post-modernist, wants to construct an alternate reality in which illegal immigrants really are violent thugs and lazy moochers, and he and his right-wing allies flood the zone with articles of this type to try to push this reality onto everyone.
She has taken scholarship money that should have gone to an American child.
She is, literally, mooching. She mooched an education that her family did not pay for, she will mooch a college degree that Americans will pay for.
Unless some Texan has the backbone needed to send La Migra to deport her whole admitted illegal family.
It's like you don't get it, Jeff. She could be the nicest, smartest illegal there ever was. She's still an illegal and needs to get the fuck out.
Go be the nicest smartest Mexican and fix your own damned country instead of screwing ours up more.
You constantly bemoan that JesseAz et al are dishonestly cherry-picking the worst examples of illegals (such as the rapists and murderers) to portray ALL illegals as like that (which is not what Jesse is doing, from what I can tell, despite your claims otherwise). But here you are linking to a story about two illegals who were VALEDICTORIANS. Using your logic, one could say you're trying to paint all illegals as being good, honest, hard-working top students. So (again using the argument you use against Jesse), you must be saying that ALL illegals are great and law abiding, and NONE are violent criminals, right?
Assimilating or not has not been an issue to me. I don't really care if immigrants assimilate. That's up to them.
What I do care about is taxpayer funding of their life. Sneaking across the border should not give you a taxpayer paid place to stay or a stipend.
Neither sneaking across the border nor fleeing some other wretched land as a refugee should give you a taxpayer paid place to stay or a stipend.
Fixed it for you.
Stolen from a previous poster here on Reason:
>Settling in an undeveloped land and building a civilization with your bare hands is not comparable to moving to a post industrial nation and signing up for welfare.
Very good statement.
Indeed +100000000000.
If everyone moving here assimilated, that would be fine. Unfortunately, there are lots of folks who have been here for decades and still can’t speak the language and don’t recognize the values most citizens live by.
Or at least not demand Americans learn their languages instead.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-migrants-complain-new-yorkers-dont-learn-african-languages
Americans have experienced successive waves of ignorance and intolerance -- often related to skin color, ethnicity, religion, immigration, and/or perceived economic pressures -- throughout its history.
Those targeted by our nation's lesser voices have included the Irish, Jews, Blacks, Italians, gays, Hispanics, women, Catholics, eastern Europeans, agnostics, Asians, Muslims, atheists, other Hispanics, other Asians . . . most of America, at one time or another.
What makes America great is that in the United States the bigots don't win. They can be loud, and aggressive, and can either hold on for traditional bigotry against modernity, inclusiveness, and better Americans for a while. They can score the occasional small victory. But over time they do not win in America.
We have withstood the onslaught of egg rolls, ravioli, pierogis, empanadas, collard greens, fish frys, Jameson, hummus, burritos, bagels, rainbow cupcakes, haluski, pad thai, sushi, pita, and more. Pizza, tacos, fried rice, and rainbow cupcakes sounds like a modern American middle school cafeteria menu on a good day.
Our latest batch of bigots seems nothing special, its reliance on the charms, character and insights of Donald Trump, MAGA, QAnon, the Heritage Foundation, the Republican Party, and the Federalist Society notwithstanding.
Haven't yet discovered the log in your own eye, Reverend?
The bigots are winning in-case you didn’t realize *all* those waves of ignorance and intolerance was committed and still is committed by the LEFT.
The party of slavery? Democrats.
The party of skin-color legislation? Democrats.
The party of gender legislation? Democrats.
The party trying to kill Christianity? Democrats.
The party trying to legislate sun-gods religion (climate)? Democrats.
The party all wrapped up in middle-east religious wars? Democrats.
I swear if leftards didn’t SELF-PROJECT everything they did………
LOL, it's always about fucking food with you morons.
The sad thing, Artie, is that you're too wet brained to understand that you--and the ideologies you support-- ARE the bigots who lost.
And it was us, and always will be us that stop you.
Until the last thought of the last one of you rots into the putrescence of history's sewer.
Since you're so big on identity politics, I'll play your game this time:
I notice you listed a bunch of distinctive cuisines to represent the many different cultures immigrants represent when the come to America. I found it quite "racist" that for the Irish, though, you list Jameson. Are you implying that all Irish Americans are drunks?
TL;DR: Tell me you’ve never been to Paterson, NJ, without telling me you’ve never been to Paterson, NJ.
My grandma told me of cousins who never did assimilate. Kept to themselves in their Danish only village, refused to learn English, still believed that Baptists were going to hell for not being Lutheran. Today it's a quaint ethnic Danish village and tourist trap.
It's pretty much where all the ethnic tourist trap villages come from.