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Media Criticism

The Mainstream Media Is Still in Denial About Hunter Biden's Laptop

Case in point: The Washington Post's Philip Bump.

Robby Soave | 6.13.2024 4:00 PM

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Hunter Biden, the troubled son of President Joe Biden, was convicted this week of three charges related to illegally purchasing a gun while suffering from drug addiction. It is fair to ask whether prosecutors should have brought these charges in the first place; Reason's Jacob Sullum described the violated law in question as "widely flouted, haphazardly enforced, and constitutionally dubious."

Republican Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) wrote on X: "Hunter might deserve to be in jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it. There are millions of marijuana users who own guns in this country, and none of them should be in jail for purchasing or possessing a firearm against current laws."

One interesting feature of the trial was the delivery mechanism for the evidence used by the state to prove that Hunter Biden was indeed addicted to drugs at the time of the gun purchase. That evidence came from photos and messages that were obtained from his laptop, which he abandoned at a Delaware repair store in April 2019.

The contents of the laptop, readers may recall, fell into the hands of government investigators, Republican operatives, and eventually, the media. On October 14, 2020—just weeks before the presidential election—the New York Post published a story about the laptop's contents, arguing that it demonstrated corruption and influence peddling involving the Biden family.

The rest is history: Mainstream media figures smeared the laptop story as misinformation, national intelligence experts described it as part of a potential Russian influence campaign, and social media sites suppressed it. Joe Biden himself dismissed the story as fake during a debate with then-President Donald Trump, citing the assessments of the intelligence community.

It is notable, then, that years later, the accuracy of the information on the laptop is no longer questioned; claims of Russian malfeasance are utterly unfounded. One can disagree with the New York Post's conclusions about the relevance of the information, but it's abundantly clear that it was Hunter Biden's laptop and it was discarded at a repair shop.

Many conservatives are rightly taking a victory lap. Sean Hannity delivered a thunderous monologue this week: "In other words, you were lied to on a very high level just before an election by numerous people and entire institutions. You were lied to by Hunter Biden himself. You were lied to by his father, your president, Joe Biden. You were lied to by NBC News, fake news CNN, NPR. Well, let's just say pretty much everybody in the media mob."

One can quibble with the term lie—but it's inarguable that the aforementioned institutions and individuals did in fact get the laptop story totally wrong.

 

Never Let Go

Enter The Washington Post's Philip Bump, who somehow thinks the media's conduct is worth defending and conservative critics have gone astray. In a recent column, he stubbornly insists that concerns about the laptop story were valid and chides Hannity et al. for taking a victory lap.

He writes: "The issue at the time of the New York Post report was in part that the material might not be authentic. In part, though, it was that it was authentic—and being released in October 2020 as part of a foreign effort to influence the outcome of the presidential race."

It's unclear why he thinks this helps his case, since both of these points—that the information might be inauthentic or that it might be authentic but Russian-derived—were wrong. The information is authentic, and no evidence has ever surfaced that Russia had something to do with it.

Bump subsequently wastes a great deal of ink explaining why he believes those concerns about Russian intervention were well-founded. Again, this is beside the point. It is now definitively proven that they were not well-founded. Twitter and Facebook—which at the time faced incredible pressure to act—suppressed the story on a fraudulent basis.

He's right that the intelligence officials who proclaimed the laptop had all the "classic earmarks of a Russian misinformation operation" were more cautious in their assessment than the media acknowledged; indeed, it was Politico that ran with the inaccurate headline "Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say." But nowhere in his column does Bump chide Politico for exaggerating the facts—on the contrary, he is making excuses for exactly this kind of thing.

All has not been well at The Washington Post lately. Management fired top editor Sally Buzbee earlier this month, with Chief Executive Will Lewis admitting candidly that the paper had lost $77 million in 2023 amid a staggering 50 percent audience decline since 2020. In a recent staff meeting, Lewis angered some by bluntly stating: "People are not reading your stuff. I can't sugarcoat it anymore."

If the problem is that the paper has lost its readers' trust, editors might think carefully about why that is the case.

 

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I am joined once again by Amber Duke to discuss the media's reaction to the Hunter Biden verdict, why MSNBC thinks Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is "damaged," what's going on with the undercover recording of Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, and more.

 

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  1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   12 months ago

    “One can quibble with the term lie—but it's inarguable that the aforementioned institutions and individuals did in fact get the laptop story totally wrong.”

    If the same people keep getting things wrong in a way that always benefits the same party and slanders the other, it means they’re lying.

    1. DesigNate   12 months ago

      It means they’re party organs and not actually doing their jobs.

      1. Dillinger   12 months ago

        icwydt

        1. Ersatz   12 months ago

          are you implying he was calling them dicks?

        2. Ersatz   12 months ago

          The Mainstream Media Is Still in Denial About Hunter Biden's Laptop

          not denial - they are trying to organize their (D)amage Control efforts.

    2. B G   12 months ago

      Technically, if they don't actually investigate the things which aren't likely to line up with what they want to believe, they're not lying. As long as they manage to remain ignorant, they're just incorrect.

      Politico taking the letter which says the story "has the hallmarks of...." and then reports that the letter states a conclusion as if it's proven was lying,since anyone who comprehends the language well enough to even pretend at practicing journalism should be expected to comprehend that the language in the letter was hedging. It may not have been known at the time that the letter itself was created in response to a request from Biden's campaign manager to a selected group of former "Intelligence officials"

  2. Chumby   12 months ago

    You should see what is really on it. There is a reason for the full court press against acknowledging.

    1. Don't look at me!   12 months ago

      It’s just dick pics!

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

      It's been in the hands of the Trump campaign for four years. How much more time do you think they need to share "what's really on it"?

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        The Trump campaign got the laptop from the FBI?

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

          I think we'd settle for the hard drive image at this point.

          But to know which one Chumbovich was referring to we'd probably have to consult RT.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

            You’re such a democrat shill. It will be good when your kind are cleansed.

  3. Michael Ejercito   12 months ago

    It is very telling that these intelligence officials did not testify in Hunter Biden's defense.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   12 months ago

      Or very not telling ...

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

      Why? Have you read their letter?

      1. Michael Ejercito   12 months ago

        The defense sure did.

    3. B G   12 months ago

      The letter with nothing but hedging language designed to allow the authors to imply that some politically expedient assertion could be the case without actually stating that they actually believe it is doesn't have a ton of value once the FBI had officially and publicly declared that the laptop, or at least the data on the drive was authentic some number of weeks after the election.

  4. Rick James   12 months ago

    Alito agreeing us needs to return to Glodlineness in secret audio

    I haven't watched that video, but why is that a problem?

    1. Stuck in California   12 months ago

      It isn't.

      It's just more of an attempt to delegitimize the court. Act like anything is a big deal, clutch your pearls, and the true believers will consider it a big deal and repeat it.

      There's been a really heavy press to destroy any faith in that institution the last few years. One of Soros' more pernicious bits of evil.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        As opposed to de-legitimizing the trial and appellate courts, which the MAGARINOs have been doing since the last election...

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

          Good. Anything that helps the left is automatically bad.

        2. Riva   12 months ago

          No, the democrats' meritless lawfare abuses using the prosecutorial power and civil courts to target political opponents is de-legitimizing the rule of law. It remains to be seen if the damage is permanent.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      SCOTUS members aren’t allowed to have opinions, according to lefty shit piles.

      1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        Unless they're a wise, Latina woman.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   12 months ago

          Error 404. Source of a wise Latina woman not found

        2. Ersatz   12 months ago

          didnt that wise jewish woman also give her opinions (of Trump)?

  5. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   12 months ago

    "in denial"

  6. Dillinger   12 months ago

    dig the Blondie showing up out of nowhere playing la esposa

  7. Gaear Grimsrud   12 months ago

    How exactly is Hunter Biden "troubled"? He was born into wealth and privilege and has distinguished himself as a narcissistic reprobate. He owes his first wife millions in unpaid alimony. He refuses to take responsibility for his own child. He got his dead brother's wife hooked on crack. And don't even get me started on the Biden crime family. Oh what's that Robby? He's a recovering addict? Fuck you. I've got a few addictions myself and it's nobody's fault but mine. If I commit a crime I go to jail. Nobody gives a shit how "troubled" I am. And they shouldn't.

    1. Zeb   12 months ago

      I think "troubled" is just a euphemism for narcissistic reprobate.

    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      My theory is that the investors child mole station didn’t begin with Ashley Biden. I have no proof of that, but it would explain an awful lot about Hunter. And we he calls his father ‘Pedo Pete’.

      1. Vernon Depner   12 months ago

        That proclivity typically surfaces in adolescence. It would be highly unusual for Joe NOT to have a string of victims going back to when he was very young.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

          Beau appears to have been well adjusted, or at least he survived whatever he went through relatively unscathed. But Hunter and Ashley’s history definitely lines up with people who were sexually abused when they were young. Plus it’s a documented fact that a Hunter likes to have whores peg him. Which may originate with being sodomized by Joe. Or perhaps Jim Biden.

          It makes a lot of sense.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

            Beau appears to have been well adjusted, or at least he survived whatever he went through relatively unscathed.

            I suspect it's probably more likely that Beau croaked before any of the dirt on him came out. The fact his wife started banging Hunter and became a crackhead herself right after he died isn't a great indication of some amazing romance.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

              True. I just don’t have any evidence of Beau being a scumbag like the rest of the family. He could have been the exception. Or he was just better at covering his tracks, not being a basket case of a drug addict like his siblings.

    3. tracerv   12 months ago

      Hunter must have really, really despised Beau the war hero. To schtup his wife and hook her on the crack. It wasn't just a fling. Seems spiteful at best; evil at worst.

      1. Vernon Depner   12 months ago

        Cain and Abel.

      2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        He was also fucking Beau’s daughter Natalie when she was around 13. According to texts on the laptop

    4. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   12 months ago

      More to the point, while I agree that what he was convicted of shouldn't be a crime, fact remains that it is. And that his own father supported that law. And I would be hammered into the dirt for breaking it.

      I just don't care.

      1. B G   12 months ago

        His own father didn't just support that law, he boasted about making the country safer by increasing the criminal penalty for others doing exactly what Hunter did.

        In the bigger picture of this prosecution, there should probably be more focus on the slow-pedal on the Tax Evasion and FARA charges which Hunter could have been prosecuted for if the DoJ hadn't dragged out the "investigation" until the statute of limitation had expired. Considering the held-over prosecutors from the Obama administration threatened to completely dismantle Mike Flynn's entire life (along with several of his family members) in retribution for his initial choice to go to trial for a relatively minor violation of FARA (failing to report work done on behalf of someone in Turkey, a NATO ally), letting Hunter slide for never registering regarding his "jobs" in both Ukraine (at a time when the US State Dept was busy influencing/reversing the elections there) and China which were exceedingly lucrative for himself, and if some of the emails from his laptop are to be believed his Father who as VP was "managing" US -Ukraine relations as well).

    5. damikesc   12 months ago

      I love how the poster children for "white privilege" are the Bidens --- who the "white privilege" bitchers will vote for happily.

  8. Heraclitus   12 months ago

    Soave never dissapoints. He is right that the Politico story went too far. The letter signed by the intel officials only stated that it looked like Russian disinfo, not that it was. But besides that quibble, where does Bump go wrong? It actually did look fishy.

    Okay, the next glaring ommission is that besides showing Hunter was on drugs and had a gun what big info do we have from the laptop? Where is the smoking gun that brings down the crime family? Waiting....waiting...waiting. If there was anything the GOP would not have finished their investigation with a whimper.

    So for all this crying about Russiagate Soave and the right can't stop yelling about the laptop. Even in this article Soave can't come up with anything to say. What a joke. Soave is carrying water for these fools.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   12 months ago

      what big info do we have from the laptop?

      DICK PICS!

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        Yeah, every file on that laptop are dick pics. You stupid child molesting Marxist faggot.

        You humiliate yourself with every post.

      3. DesigNate   12 months ago

        Rough day for you, shit for brains.

    2. Idaho-Bob   12 months ago

      Who possesses the laptop?

      If you can honestly answer this question, you'll know why the GOP has nothing on the Biden crime family.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        The FBI, I imagine. Unless they've returned the stolen property to its rightful owner.

        IIRC, after Mac Isaac stole the laptop, he imaged its hard drive, gave the laptop to the FBI and sent the hard drive image to Giuliani. Giuliani then sent the image to the NY Post.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

          IIRC, after Mac Isaac stole the laptop

          Mac Isaac didn't steal the laptop. Hunter dropped it off, went on a crack bender, and forgot about it, and it became abandoned goods. That's not theft, faggot.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            That would depend on state law. Mac Isaac obviously knew who the rightful owner of the property was, yet he chose not to return it. He did decide to treat it as his own property when he imaged the hard drive and distributed copies of it. That's usually called "conversion", which is a common law tort.

            What kind of person does that?

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

              Now you're making qualifications because your bullshit was identified as bullshit.

              If he stole it, why wasn't he charged with theft, you moron?

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

                Whether what Mac Isaac did qualified as theft depends on state law. Which state was it? Delaware? Such research would also reveal the applicable statute of limitations, which has almost certainly passed by now. I'm not sure it was criminal, but it appears to have been unlawful, as well as something a decent person would not have done.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

                  Whether what Mac Isaac did qualified as theft depends on state law.

                  So he wasn't actually charged with anything. Thanks for confirming that this is just a stupid shitlib complaint.

            2. Piru   12 months ago

              Lots of potential crimes on the laptop, starting with the gun charge. A decent person would turn it over to law enforcement which is what the shop owner tried to do.

        2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

          You said in a post on a different article that the Trump campaign has the laptop.

          Can’t get your bullshit stories straight, can you?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            No, the OP in that thread didn't specify whether he was referring to the laptop or the hard drive image. Such are the perils of employing the often ambiguous word, "it".

    3. Zeb   12 months ago

      The fact that a bunch of IC people were commenting on it at all is the problem. They should not be involved in domestic politics in any way. There are no "former" intelligence officials.
      The scandal here isn't the contents (though that has potential for it's own scandals for sure). It is that people whose job it is to manipulate the politics of foreign countries applied their skills at home in order to influence an election.

      1. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   12 months ago

        The entire Summer of Love in 2020 was a color revolution.

        1. Vernon Depner   12 months ago

          One of the motivations for the "Summer of Love" was to suppress anti-Covid Fascism protests. I'm surprised how little mention that gets.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Free speech doesn't apply to them!

        1. Zeb   12 months ago

          I said what they did was scandalous, not illegal.

          Though I do believe it is illegal for intelligence agents to use propaganda to manipulate the American public.

          1. Jefferson Paul   12 months ago

            Didn't Obama end that restriction on government using propaganda against American?

          2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            True, you didn't say they should be thrown in jail; however, I didn't accuse you of that.

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   12 months ago

      ""The letter signed by the intel officials only stated that it looked like Russian disinfo, not that it was. ""

      Do you think those intel officials were naive about how the media was going to report the letter?

      They knew how it would play and they included plausible denial so they could say otherwise.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        So they included a prominent disclaimer, knowing Politico's headline writer would ignore it. Damn, they clever!

        1. Think It Through   12 months ago

          Also they were dead wrong (i.e. lying), it didn't look like Russian disinfo. It looked like the true chronicle of the life of a degenerate member of the Biden Crime Family and I knew it in real time.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            That's just like, uh, your OPINION, man!

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

              It’s, uh, the truth man.

              You’re a stupid fucking shill.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   12 months ago

          ""Clapper told the Washington Post Monday that “there was message distortion” in the initial reporting on the letter.

          All we were doing was raising a yellow flag that this could be Russian disinformation. Politico deliberately distorted what we said. It was clear in paragraph five,” Clapper said.

          Journalists who have long criticized the letter weren’t buying Clapper’s explanation.

          “If James Clapper knew Politico and [reporter] Natasha Bertrand were lying about what their letter said, why didn’t he say so then?” Pulitzer Prize winner Glenn Greenwald ​posted on Twitter Monday.""

          https://nypost.com/2023/02/14/clappers-distorted-claim-about-hunter-biden-laptop-blasted-by-critics/

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            Because Politico linked to the actual letter in their story (indeed, when I want to find the letter, I just search "politico 51 intelligence") in the first line of their story? Anyone who bothered to read it for themselves would have seen that the Politico headline was misleading.

            But it is quite "progressive" that the MAGARINOs have gone from flat-out lying about the letter to just whining that the 51 former intelligence officials should have released another letter decrying inaccurate headlines.

    5. One-Punch_Man   12 months ago

      Hunter saying it wasn't his. Papa Joe saying it wasn't his sons.

      I would know if one of my laptops went missing.

      How about compare Trump/Russian collusion to the Laptop story/Russian Collusion.

      No evidence in either but the media run with it. Journalists are supposed to investigate. They didn't. They ran a party line.

      They also don't take accountability for mistakes.. That's wrong with Bump and you. You probably wonder why media trust is at 12%

    6. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      Act Blue doesn't send their best.

      1. Vernon Depner   12 months ago

        They are rapists.

    7. Riva   12 months ago

      No banana breath, the letter falsely claimed that the laptop “ha[d] all the classic earmarks of a Russian intelligence operation” and that “the Russians [were] involved in the Hunter Biden email issue.” And why did these hero intel officials disgrace themselves this way? Because Biden’s senior campaign adviser Antony Blinken, then on the Biden campaign, recruited Mike Morell, a former CIA director, to write letter. Morell hooked in 50 other intel backwashes to lie with him. Morell even bragged in emails obtained by Congress that “We think Trump will attack Biden on the issue at this week’s debate and we want to give the VP a talking point to use in response.” And Biden did use the garbage letter in his debate, unchallenged by the media.

      As for the authenticity of the laptop and its contents, that was established almost immediately by computer forensics after the FBI obtained possession. The contents were also verified through analysis of cloud storage data, and materials provided by corroborating witnesses.

      So in sum, the letter was a politically organized lie and the laptop and its contents were early on established as clearly authentic.

      And why was such a cover up needed? I'd say the Big Guy wanted to hide any record of his influence peddling with foreign actors while VP, acting through his cutout bagman, crackhead son.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        Also remember the FBI was actively warning social media about Russians faking items for the election after theyl FBI already knew it was real. They were war gaming the exact laptop scenario. In preparation for the drop seemingly.

        1. Michael Ejercito   12 months ago

          Biden's lawyers knew better than to put these liars on the stand.

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

          Yes, the FBI did issue a warning to Facebook and Twitter about a possible Russian disinformation attempt in the run up to the election. Their shocking reason? Previous Russian disinformation attempts in the run up to the previous election.

          Facebook cited this warning as the justification for their dastardly decision to temporarily disable the automatic pushing of the NY Post story via algorithm. Perhaps Xitter did, too. But no other social media site heeded it, nor was it repeated. And yet, Robby cites this anodyne warning as "incredible pressure" to spike the story. What snowflakes they were...

          1. Riva   12 months ago

            Uh huh. Not actually consistent with the facts. So disingenuous and incompetent that you seem to qualify to be an FBI agent. You should apply.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

              Inconsistent in ways you apparently cannot share. So convincing!

              1. Riva   12 months ago

                I outlined some of the facts above A hole. So does the article. You have provided nothing to contradict these facts. You just pretend they don’t exist. Understandable. It really is impossible to defend the laptop lie, let alone the Biden crime family.

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

                  He’s a shill and a buffoon.

                2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

                  More Miseking...

                  1. Truthfulness   12 months ago

                    That's your rebuttal? Pathetic.

                    You, like Misek, can't stand the fact that your position doesn't hold up to scrutiny, when facts are shown to tear down such a position.

                    Take the L already and go away.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        You're obviously just a compulsive liar, which is why you have selectively quoted what the letter said. Why are you so afraid that people will read what the 51 former intelligence officials really wrote? Here's what the complete paragraph you've butchered actually said:

        "We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have
        evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case."

        The "10% for the big guy" accusation has also been completely debunked: the legal documentation subsequently signed with the Chinese did not contain any such amount for Joe Biden (or anyone else). And even if it had, Joe Biden was a private citizen in 2017 (when the potential deal was being discussed in the email), so even if the other partners had decided to cut him in for a gift of 10% of the equity in the venture (which, by the way, never got off the ground), it could not possibly have been a "bribe" in exchange for anything--he was no longer VP, and no one expected at that time that he would even enter the race for president in 2020, much less win it.

        Only a committed MAGARINO could be so stupid as to think that a 2017 email about a speculative future deal involving China could "prove" anything about Joe Biden's alleged "influence peddling with foreign actors while VP". Someone like you.

        1. Riva   12 months ago

          So, the corrupt creep Biden didn’t claim, in a debate and in multiple forums, that the laptop was Russian disinformation based on the letter, written by the intel scunges his campaign recruited to write the letter for the campaign? No contradiction or challenge from the media, which used the letter to discredit and silence any mention of the laptop. The letter didn’t claim that the laptop “ha[d] all the classic earmarks of a Russian intelligence operation” and that “the Russians [were] involved in the Hunter Biden email issue”? The NY Post’s Twitter account wasn’t suspended? Spare me your gaslighting bullshit. Democrat scumbags were caught in another campaign dirty trick lie. You should be used to that by now.

          And the Big Guy’s corruption has not been “debunked,” rather it has been corroborated by witnesses and evidence.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            You're not very good at this, are you?

            All you can do is repeat yourself, over and over. You're just a Rob Misek, wearing a different mask.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

              He didn't actually repeat anything from his initial post, you deflecting vermin.

            2. Riva   12 months ago

              Wow. Almost like you don't realize the lies have been exposed. You are either really committed to the creepy Biden cause or are literally the stupiest person on earth. Could be both I guess.

    8. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

      The letter signed by the intel officials only stated that it looked like Russian disinfo, not that it was.

      Yes, we realize how much your side loves indulging in well-poisoning. And that includes the "intel officials" who signed the letter, all of whom need to have their heads separated from their bodies with a rusty hacksaw.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        I'd love to see you try that, coward.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

          Are you volunteering to be a test subject?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            It wouldn't make a difference. You can only throw your keyboard so far...

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

              Don't need arm strength to send progress at 2500 fps.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

                Again, I'd like to see you try it, coward.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

                  LOL, speaking of keyboard warriors.

    9. damikesc   12 months ago

      "Soave never dissapoints. He is right that the Politico story went too far. The letter signed by the intel officials only stated that it looked like Russian disinfo, not that it was."

      Several have been asked since then if they have any regrets about being wrong?

      Answer has been no.

      "But besides that quibble, where does Bump go wrong? It actually did look fishy."

      Yes, Hunter Biden being a crack-addled idiot who was given positions in foreign countries far outside of any claim of remote expertise he had was not known, eh?

      Wasn't Trump impeached for asking Zelensky to check on Biden's story about holding up aid until the prosecutor targeting Burisma was fired?

      This was not new info in 2020. It was just surprising how in depth the scheme was.

      "Okay, the next glaring ommission is that besides showing Hunter was on drugs and had a gun what big info do we have from the laptop?"

      You missed the business deals mentioned on the laptop? Joe and Hunter SHARING bank accounts (meaning Joe profited directly from these deals)?

      Maybe you should read instead of broadcasting ignorance.

      I love that Russian collusion did not "look" like misinformation --- even though it 100% was.

    10. EISTAU Gree-Vance   12 months ago

      Haha. Look at the losers circle the wagons for this degenerate piece of shit and his corrupt, demented old man. Too funny.

      Do you feel a little dirty?

  9. Fist of Etiquette   12 months ago

    Expect some live commentary from me on X.

    Some live spoilers, you mean. The dragons might be monstrous but you, sir, are the real monster here.

    1. Stuck in California   12 months ago

      On X?

      Didn't thee guys all bail on Twitter for Mastadon?

  10. DuaneMaxwell-HillWozniel   12 months ago

    X? What's that?

  11. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   12 months ago

    BOYS, THEY FOUND DICK PICS ON THAT LAPTOP! DICK PICS!

    IT WOULD HAVE CHANGED THE ELECTION THAT TRUMP REALLY WON ANYWAY!

    1. Zeb   12 months ago

      You are literally the only person here who cares about any dick pics that may have been on the laptop.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   12 months ago

        I don't give a proverbial shit about the dick pics.

        Instead I am put off by the nonstop caterwauling by Republicans concerning a laptop that contained only those dick pics.

        There was nothing useful on it. If there had been it would have been revealed in the two-year phony investigation by the House.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   12 months ago

          ""a laptop that contained only those dick pics.""

          I bet that a lie.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   12 months ago

          And for someone who says they don't give a shit about the dic picks, you brought it up twice and it's the only thing on Hunter's laptop you seem to think exists.

        3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        4. One-Punch_Man   12 months ago

          Like the 3 year investigation into January 6th. What about the 4 yr investigation of Russian collusion.

          Funny, you change the story from Bidens saying it's not my computer. It's fake. It's Russian. To "oh it's only dick pics".

          If it's only dick pics, which you love, why didn't he just say that in 2020? Answer without using - Trump, MAGA, or republicans in your answer

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   12 months ago

            There was Russian collusion. The meeting at the Trump Tower with Kremlin officials. The effort to set up a back channel to the Kremlin. Manafort got a 47 month sentence.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

              Gee, a candidate for the Presidency meeting with officials of another country!
              I'd ask how fucking stupid you are, but there's no need. turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud of it!

            2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

              Manafort wasn’t convicted of anything related to the Trump campaign you lying child rapist cunt. He was convicted of tax and fraud charges.

              Its as if you think we’re as stupid as you are.

        5. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   12 months ago

          Fuck off pedo.

        6. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

          Oh we’re talking about the other laptop. The one that when on the media that has a bunch of damning text messages involving Hoe Biden among other things.

          But a retarded child molesting Marxist shill like you is far too stupid to be aware of that.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   12 months ago

            You should tell those idiots Comer and Jim Jordan about that.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

              turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
              But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

            2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   12 months ago

              You should turn yourself in for your crimes against children, pedo.

              1. Chumby   12 months ago

                Chris Hansen approves this message.

        7. damikesc   12 months ago

          "I don’t give a proverbial shit about the dick pics."

          Yet you obsess over them.

      2. Scooter   12 months ago

        Groomers are gonna Groom.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   12 months ago

      Fuck off pedo.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        Just remember. Sarc falls for his bullshit.

    4. DesigNate   12 months ago

      You couldn’t be more of a demfag if you live streamed getting spit-roasted by Obama and Schumer.

      Fucking pathetic.

    5. Livemike   11 months ago

      they also found conclusive evidence that h Hunter Biden kicked up money to Joe. but all you care about is genitals. unusually for you, adult ones.

  12. mad.casual   12 months ago

    It is fair to ask whether prosecutors should have brought these charges in the first place; Reason's Jacob Sullum described the violated law in question as "widely flouted, haphazardly enforced, and constitutionally dubious."

    Fuck You. Fair would be to let the people who've been convicted of the crime go free. Questioning whether Hunter should be tried as well is just you fucking them over in order to try and impress people with the false airs of your magnanimous grace and impartial moral superiority, shit head.

    1. bacchys   12 months ago

      There doesn't seem to be anyone convicted for this crime under these circumstances before Hunter was.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

        bacchys
        Is.
        A.
        TDS-addled.
        Lying.
        Pile.
        Of.
        Lefty.
        Shit.
        FOAD, asswipe.

      2. One-Punch_Man   12 months ago

        Yeah, I'm saying all those lawyers saying this law is never used in history...oh wait that is the NY one with Trump.

        You do realize this law is applied all the time. It's just not someone famous. Usually, it ends up in a crime and murder too.

        I hate the "I have to defend my team at all cost and go with blind faith".

      3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        Hunter was offered the diversion plea a second time without the broad immunity for tax crimes and FARA violations you retarded leftist. He turned it down.

        He was treated better than anyone else with his initial bargain granting broad immunity to other crimes.

        Funny you ignore this.

        1. Stuck in California   12 months ago

          The whole narrative is based around ignoring this stuff.

          "It's just a stupid technicality. It's just a minor drug charge" etc.

          THIS is. But everything else that originally was under the immunity agreement never gets mentioned. Like filling a form out wrong is the one and only thing this fucktard was accused of doing. Hoping we'll all forget how much money he got, from Chinese and Ukranians, and all of the tax issues that go with it.

          You're right Jesse.

          Maybe there's another question. Why aren't the "journalists" who keep keep writing about this at Reason following these more serious issues?

          1. DesigNate   12 months ago

            They don’t want to accidentally shoot themselves in the back of the head while being mugged, where the mugger leaves their iPhone and wallet/purse?

          2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

            Don’t forget the money he got for brokering a deal between the Congo and China for mining rare earth elements. Because obviously a China couldn’t make such a deal without the help of a disgraced idiot crackhead scumbag.

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

          I haven't found any reference online to the details of a second plea deal Hunter allegedly rejected.

      4. damikesc   12 months ago

        "There doesn’t seem to be anyone convicted for this crime under these circumstances before Hunter was."

        Seems apropos given Trump's prosecutions.

        And people being arrested for lying on government forms is known to put you in jail.

        Joe giving a speech on gun control laws right AFTER the conviction was an impressive display of sheer obliviousness to reality.

    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      Would much rather Hunter was tried for all the big crimes he committed. But that won’t happen now. And the DoJ was dragged kicking and screaming into this prosecution.

      1. Vernon Depner   12 months ago

        He's still facing the tax evasion charges.

  13. tennvol   12 months ago

    I'm just wondering when Alvin Bragg is going to bring felony charges against those who suppressed the laptop story. Or the charges against Hillary Clinton for unlawfully influencing the 2016 election with the Steele Dossier.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

      Your comment doesn't make sense.

      1. Jefferson Paul   12 months ago

        You are a liar or an idiot, as the comment made clear sense. Also, you've been told by others in the past in the comments section.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

          You want the Manhattan DA to bring state charges against Xitter and Facebook for "suppressing" the NY Post laptop story on their own platforms?

          And you want the Manhattan DA to prosecute Hillary Clinton for something which allegedly occurred (where?) in 2016?

          Damn, that's some whip-smart legal beagling there, Jeff.

  14. bacchys   12 months ago

    Soave continues to write stupid shit about the laptop to assuage the idiot MAGAts in the comment section.

    The FBI hasn't authenticated the laptop. They simply looked to see if it was registered to his iCloud. Their method of verifying whether any particular files were Biden's was to check if they were on his iCloud. No one has claimed none of the files supposedly gleaned from the laptop were Biden's: that's a strawman.

    They're going to hate you anyway, Soave. Beclowning yourself for them is dumb.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      bacchys
      Is.
      A.
      TDS-addled.
      Lying.
      Pile.
      Of.
      Lefty.
      Shit.
      FOAD, shit-stain.

      1. One-Punch_Man   12 months ago

        Yeah he's an embarrassment of stupidity . I'm surprised he hasn't drown in the rain

    2. R Mac (5-30-24, sarc’s too drunk to remember what he thinks about it)   12 months ago

      Imagine typing this and thinking a single person will take it seriously.

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      Another Act Blue failure.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      "The FBI hasn’t authenticated the laptop..."

      Giving turd a real run for the gold in 'imbecilic liar' competition!

      1. sarcasmic   12 months ago

        And now back to Sevo and his singers!

        “Old grey mare she ain’t what she used to be, ain’t what she used to be, ain’t what she used to be…”

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

          Stop being mean to shrike!!! And joe!!! But I'm not a Democrat. Waaah. - sarc.

          1. sarcasmic   12 months ago

            Does your wife get tired of scraping dried jizz off the screen?

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

              Do you get tired of being pointed out as the drunken bottom of the septic tank sludge in the comments, shitstain?

            2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

              I would say something about your ‘ex wife’ but she’s just a drunken hallucination.

    5. sarcasmic   12 months ago

      Don’t think for a second that the comments have any effect on the writers. They openly say the comments are an embarrassment. Because they are.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        Whats embarrassing is you claiming to be a libertarian and not a Democrat.

        1. sarcasmic   12 months ago

          I’ve left the libertarian plantation and have migrated to classical liberal. There is a lot of Venn overlap, but they aren’t the same.

          Im sure you hate those classical liberals with their laissez faire economics and devotion to liberty.

          They don’t want to interfere in economics nor be hostile towards people over where they were born.

          You must hate them. Hate, hate, hate.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

            "I’ve left the libertarian plantation and have migrated to classical liberal..."

            Drunken pile of lefty shit assumes someone, anyone, might buy into this outright lie.
            FOAD, shitstain.

        2. sarcasmic   12 months ago

          Tell us how much you hate classical liberals. They are antithetical to Trump. So you must hate them. So please, let the hate out.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

            What would you even know about classical liberals, shitstain?
            FOAD.

      2. DesigNate   12 months ago

        What is the point of this comment?

    6. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   12 months ago

      Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. The writers here seem to be letting these Great Replacement cult members who comment here get to them.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

        That's because you're an imbecilic piece of lefty shit.

    7. Gaear Grimsrud   12 months ago

      I've always wanted to visit a parallel reality. Seems you live in one.

    8. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      The FBI authenticated the laptop and Hunter has admitted it’s his. You write bullshit here thinking no one remembers the last four years.

      Stupid cunt.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        But we have never seen the contents of the stolen laptop itself--only the FBI has that. Accordingly, the FBI has not stated that everything on the supposedly authentically imaged hard drive which was shared with the Trump campaign and the NY Post has been authenticated. (Why would they comment on that?)

        1. Think It Through   12 months ago

          OK so the goalposts move to "the laptop is real but maybe somebody put fake stuff on it."

          That is so ridiculous.

          But wait.

          RUSSIANSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

          lmfao

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            You're not supposed to notice the difference between the laptop (in the FBI's possession) and the alleged imaged contents of the hard drive. And you've passed the test!

    9. ravenshrike   12 months ago

      Right you dumbfuck son of a bitch, the iCloud doesn't take whole backups. It does instant or 24 hr incremental per file. Which means the FBI knew at most to within a 24 hour period if not within 10 seconds when any given file was created or manipulated and saved on that laptop. This means you stupid retard that they knew if any files had been changed after it left the worthless methhead's possession.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Are you under the impression that the FBI has commented upon the hard drive image, which was stolen and circulated by Mac Isaac to the Trump campaign and the NY Post? Why would they do that?

        1. ravenshrike   12 months ago

          Because if it were they could point giant fingers at it as confirmation of either Russian disinformation or Republican dirty pool. That they have not is given the nature of the organization involved confirmation of its authenticity.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            Well, at least that's a coherent argument.

            You admit that the FBI has never authenticated any of the information circulated in the media which has allegedly been copied from the laptop's hard drive.

            But you suggest that the fact that the FBI has not volunteered to compare that information with the information on the laptop proves that all the information circulated in the media as allegedly coming from the laptop's hard drive is authentic.

            While that would seem to be a logical conclusion for some of the information (some of which, by the way, has been corroborated using other means), it doesn't seem logical to extend that assumption to every piece of information allegedly sourced from the laptop. The FBI isn't in the "laptop authentication" business. I expect their only concern was whether it contained evidence of a crime. After that examination concluded, their interest in it probably subsided.

            1. ravenshrike   12 months ago

              And now the latest is that Hunter dropped his lawsuit against Guiliani. Which if ol Rudy had been peddling manipulated information is not something he would have done.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

                Maybe, but there may have been other reasons for dropping the civil suit. Like the fact that Rudy is bust, and can't pay his own legal fees, much less those of Hunters' lawyers (which Hunter would have to pay). Under those circumstances, why bother with the lawsuit?

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

                  All of which is nothing more than speculation on your part that can be summarily dismissed.

    10. damikesc   12 months ago

      "The FBI hasn’t authenticated the laptop."

      Just used in a criminal trial and the defense did not object.

      It is authenticated, like it or not.

      ...also, a whistleblower says they authenticated it back in 2019. Shame the bureau is a dishonest shit organization.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Trusting the FBI again, are we?

        In any case, we're not discussing the laptop per se; we're discussing the information allegedly copied from an image of the laptop's hard drive and then fed to the Trump campaign to influence an election.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

          ^ further straw-grasping noted.

  15. gnome   12 months ago

    You can't quibble about the word "lie" at all. biden lied in the debate with Trump. Blatantly. The 51 deep-staters lied when they wrote it had ALL the classic earmarks of Russian disinformation, because it missed the basic earmark - sourced in Russia, and they knew it. They're still lying.

    And for the dickhead who keeps squawking "dick pics dick pics", I have many words, but only one I bother to share with others here - "emails".

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      He pretends they don’t exist. Thats what Soros has ordered him to say.

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

      Stating that something in the popular media which they have not themselves examined "has all the classic earmarks" of a Russian disinformation campaign is obviously an opinion, not a statement of fact. It could only be a "lie" if the signatories did not actually hold that opinion--an allegation for which there is no evidence.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

        ^ Straw-grasping noted.

  16. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

    "...Bump subsequently wastes a great deal of ink explaining why he believes those concerns about Russian intervention were well-founded..."

    'I'm an imbecile and here's the proof!'

  17. car-keynes   12 months ago

    Anyone who knows what log info to alter to make it correspond to a correct date and time could had overwritten data at whim. The only way I would find the claim credible that it was Hunter’s would be if his fingerprints had been on it. Even so, after selective rewriting onto the hard drive and reworking the log info dates and times, who’s to say that the laptop had not been borrowed? We all know that it was not in Hunter Biden’s possession for a very, very long time. Therefore, why does a laptop repair shop suddenly get a higher security clearance pass for an item in third party hands numerous weeks even though it was clearly in the hands of an independent operative all that time?

    The only fair case was to cast serious doubt on the uncontaminated purity of the laptop.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      Do you need tiny hands to grasp at straws that thin?

    2. sarcasmic   12 months ago

      By law computer repair shops are deputized by the federal government to scan computers for a list of stuff, then keep it and hand it over if anything is found.
      I think that’s what happened.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Hand it over to political campaigns, obviously.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   12 months ago

      Wow. That word salad would make Hank cringe.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

      If you had any self-respect left, you'd take the pink bath.

    5. ravenshrike   12 months ago

      Just to be clear, are you suggesting that these individuals control Apple's iCloud service and can rewrite those files and their associated logs and hashes at their whim? Because if you're not, the files on the laptop themselves don't matter. If you are, then you'd better have some significant fucking evidence to back that up you blithering twat.

  18. Jerry B.   12 months ago

    The Post has been all “Oh. Poor Hunter and his troubles with drugs and his wonderful supportive family, why is everyone picking on him” for quite a while, complete with sympathetic pictures, etc., and the Liberal commentariat who read it just soak it up and blame Trump.

  19. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   12 months ago

    Did this laptop have porn and dirty pictures on it? {Shivers}. Chilling.

    1. Rick James   12 months ago

      Yeah, that and some uncomfortable business emails.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

        And a large number of text messages that appear to indicate that Hunter was fucking his niece Natalie who was circa 13-14 at the time. Given what we’ve learned from Ashley Biden’s authenticated diary, this appears to be a constant practice among the Biden family.

  20. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   12 months ago

    Who fucking cares what Hunter Biden had on his laptop? Was it video of the sex he had with young and hot prostitutes that he could afford to pay? {Shrugs} Good for him… stop being jealous.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      FOAD, asswipe.

    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      Hey kiddie raping faggot, he also had texts and emails that tie him to daddy Joe selling his office and using Hunter as the bagman.

      So really, fuck off.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Which "office" did Joe Biden hold in April 2017?

        1. markm23   12 months ago

          Are you seriously claiming that nothing on the laptop was more than 3 months old? Unless Hunter had to bring a laptop only a few months old to a computer repair shop, it would have plenty of files from when before Jan 20, 2017, when Joe Biden was Vice President.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            And yet, the juiciest thing they could find on the hard drive was a 2017 email, written by a third party, about a proposed deal which never materialized, in which the third party had suggested "the big guy" might be gifted 10% of the deal's equity, but which was later contradicted by the deal's executed legal documentation.

            Unless they're still hiding the good stuff!

  21. JasonT20   12 months ago

    [Emphasis mine]

    It is notable, then, that years later, the accuracy of the information on the laptop is no longer questioned; claims of Russian malfeasance are utterly unfounded. One can disagree with the New York Post's conclusions about the relevance of the information, but it's abundantly clear that it was Hunter Biden's laptop and it was discarded at a repair shop.

    Soave says that it is "clear" that it was Hunter's laptop and was discarded at a repair shop. That is not the same thing as "the accuracy of the information on the laptop is no longer questioned."
    For one thing, what was on the laptop that is "no longer questioned?" I hear all kinds of things from people in comments, personalities on Fox or Newsmax, and so on about how evil Hunter is, how it all "proves" the worst accusations of the Bidens selling out the U.S. to China, and more. But where do I go to get a definitive set of independently verified facts about what is on it? Anyone can say just about anything if they don't have to back it up by actually showing the proof. If Soave is so convinced that "the information" is accurate (without specifying what that information is), then I'm sure he can update his article with a link to that source.

    1. Rick James   12 months ago

      I hear all kinds of things from people in comments, personalities on Fox or Newsmax

      The reason you don't hear anything about it anywhere else except for Fox or Newsmax is because Fox and Newsmax (I assume) are going to be the only news outlets willing to discuss it. Remember, just because the New York Times doesn't think it's news doesn't mean it's not news.

      This is in fact the entire point. Corporate dem-op media refuses to acknowledge something is a thing, then when the only outlet that talks about it Fox and Newsmax, you discard said thing because only Fox and Newsmax are reporting on it.

      For instance, in my local newspaper, you'd barely know Biden was even president. I suspect you get a lot more discussion about Biden on Fox and Newsmax. Does that mean Biden isn't president?

      1. DesigNate   12 months ago

        Leftist are like 3 month olds: if they can’t see the information, it’s magically disappeared. Just like mom does when she covers her face with her hands.

        1. JasonT20   12 months ago

          Like Rick James, you decided to respond with something about how my bias is preventing me from seeing the truth instead of answering my question with evidence for what you believe is true.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        To be clear, only the FBI has "the laptop". The Trump campaign and the NY Post only ever had an image of the hard drive supposedly stolen from that laptop. They apparently had it for weeks, if not months, before bits and pieces from that hard drive image were published. What were they doing with it/to it in the meantime? Perhaps, nothing.

        However, no one has ever published the entire hard drive image for the public to see (as far as I know). Why not?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

          Gee, look over there!
          FOAD shitstain.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            Your substantive contributions are always welcome, Scato.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

              Your bullshit hardly ever is, asshole.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

                Wow, I got a "hardly"!

      3. JasonT20   12 months ago

        This is in fact the entire point. Corporate dem-op media refuses to acknowledge something is a thing, then when the only outlet that talks about it Fox and Newsmax, you discard said thing because only Fox and Newsmax are reporting on it.

        Ah, I see! It isn't that Fox and Newsmax are biased against Democrats so much that they frequently spread conspiracy theories about them. It is that there is a conspiracy to make them look that way!

        If the truth is only on outlets with a conservative bias (or that aren't biased to the left, if you prefer that framing), then fine. Show me the links on those outlets where we can find the independently verified information.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      ^ This is the slimy pile of shit who supports murder of the unarmed as a preventative for, well, he's not quite sure, being an imbecilic pile of lefty shit:

      JasonT20
      February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
      “How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”

      FOAD, asswipe.

  22. Well Adjusted Biden Guy 6/11 Banana Republic   12 months ago

    OMG!!! Hunter’s laptop had porn and phone numbers of strippers on it. Shocking.

    Peanuts, I have a question. Does this compare favorably to how precious Dear Leader had piles of classified documents next to him in the crapper? Oh yeah… I forgot… he declassified them with his wonderful telepathic Dear Leader Mind. All good, I guess. Never mind… don’t answer.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

      The classified documents that were sent to him?

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      OMG, shitstain!!!
      Do you ever deal honestly with anything?
      FOAD, asshole.

    3. Marshal   12 months ago

      I do love that left wingers now pretend to care about classified documents after a decade of whitewashing Hillary maintaining classified information on an unsecured private server and Obama knowing about it. Literally every single position they take is driven by partisanship. It's like reading sarc, they can't apply one single principle consistently because their only real goal is attack the right and defend the left. It's a case study in the effects of propaganda.

  23. BenF   12 months ago

    The Stormy Daniels trial and the Hunter Biden gun trial are both political hit jobs. Neither of these cases would have gone to court if the defendants weren’t famous political figures.

    Mute list: JesseAZ, sevo, Nardz

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   12 months ago

      Ok Sarc. Oh, and throw me in while you’re at it. We both know you’re terrified of me anyway. As you should be.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

      "The Stormy Daniels trial and the Hunter Biden gun trial are both political hit jobs..."

      One of these is not at all like the other and BENF..
      Is.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit.
      FOAD, shitstain.

    3. DesigNate   12 months ago

      Imagine thinking that anyone else could lie on that form and not be prosecuted for it.

      Hahahahahahahahahahaha

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Most people who lie on that form are not prosecuted. You seem to have trouble engaging with reality.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

          Cite or STFU, asshole.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            First one that popped up, just for you, Scato:

            "Andrew Willinger, the executive director of the Duke Center for Firearms Law, said illegal gun ownership charges typically show up in court as part of larger criminal cases.

            Prosecutions like the one against Biden — where the charges aren’t tied to another crime like drug possession, robbery or assault — are unusual, Willinger said.

            “It’s very rare for this to be sort of the lead charge in a case. These are usually brought as additional counts when there is more serious conduct at issue — against someone who has a lengthy criminal history, someone who is engaged in some violent conduct with a firearm,” Willinger said. “Possessing a gun as a felon is the most frequent charge, and that’s just sort of the easiest one to prosecute because all you need to provide is that the individual was involved in a felony and that they have a gun.”

            Prosecuting someone for possessing a gun while using drugs requires a fact-intensive investigation, said Willinger, and that usually hinges on having evidence of multiple occurrences of drug use in the weeks or days leading up to the gun purchase."

            https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-gun-charges-trial-atf-form-4473-5048d89714c556310c64a03bb3845d84

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

              “Andrew Willinger, the executive director of the Duke Center for Firearms Law, said illegal gun ownership charges typically show up in court as part of larger criminal cases..."

              As this is, asshole.

            2. markm23   12 months ago

              Hunter gave them that information on a platter when he wrote and published his book.

              It’s true that the undistinguished son of a nobody probably would not be prosecuted for such a crime unless it was related to other, more serious crimes – because he would not have written such a book and could not have had it published, so the prosecutors would have actually had to _work_ to find proof of the drug use. But Hunter made it easy.

              Also, there _were_ other, more serious crimes suspected – items on Hunter’s laptop and a good deal of testimony about meetings where Hunter got his Dad on the phone while talking about high level deals seems to show he was the bagman for Joe Biden to peddle influence and collect bribes. But the Democrat-run DOJ did not want to investigate and prosecute those crimes. Instead, they found something that didn’t implicate Joe and offered Hunter a sweetheart plea deal on it – writing the deal so arguably it protected Hunter from all other charges, related or not, while not making it embarassingly clear that the prosecution was doing that.

              But the judge smelled a rat. She required a clarification of the plea deal. The “clarified” deal only settled the listed charges, and Hunter wasn’t going for a deal that let him do community service for that one gun purchase, but left him open to being hauled into court again and again for every other crime that was suspected. He should have gone for it anyhow – because now he can serve the full time for a charge that could be proven merely by reading the gun purchase form and Hunter’s own words about his cocaine use to the jury. Or try to save himself by going to the Supreme Court to overturn one of Joe’s favorite laws.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

                "It’s true that the undistinguished son of a nobody probably would not be prosecuted for such a crime unless it was related to other, more serious crimes..."

                Correct, except the "other, more serious crimes" are usually related to the use of the firearm in question--and those crimes are usually the primary reason for bringing the prosecution (obviously).

                You seem to be arguing that the "other, more serious crimes" justifying Hunter's prosecution were the allegedly "serious crimes" the DOJ declined to investigate, much less prosecute. That's not a similar justification; it is a completely new justification.

                Judge Noreika never approved another plea deal, but I did find a story suggesting that David Weiss later offered Hunter essentially the same deal as before, but without any blanket immunity for other federal crimes he may have committed. Biden rejected that offer, so there was never another "deal" for Noreika to approve or reject.

                https://whyy.org/articles/hunter-biden-attorney-general-merrick-garland-appoints-special-counsel/

                I agree, Hunter should have taken that deal.

    4. ravenshrike   12 months ago

      No you moron, the Hunter gun case was meant to get Hunter permanent immunity from all federal charges with no requirement to testify about anyone else without having to bring any charges connected to the Big Guy, which is why they let all those crimes lapse past the statute of limitations. The only reason the trial continued was because the judge put the kibosh on that particular farce and the optics would have looked too bad to drop the charges.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        Jesse says that Hunter was offered a second plea deal re the gun charges (presumably, without any linkage to the tax charges). I've not been able to locate any corroborating evidence of that.

        I guess it could be true.

        1. markm23   12 months ago

          It was a "clarification" of the original deal rather than a second deal. That is, they took out the murky language that would have, if interpreted the way Hunter would have interpreted it, exposed the prosecutors as Democratic operatives working to shield Hunter from exposure of all his other crimes - especially the ones that might link to Joe Biden. To call that a "second deal" would have been to admit that the first one was corrupt; instead, they "clarified" the corrupt parts right out it, while pretending that there was no substantive change.

  24. Rex L'Amoureaux   12 months ago

    A dead fish deserves more dignity than to be wrapped in the Washington Post.

  25. Number 2   12 months ago

    I wonder…did any of the media outlets that reported the laptop as Russian misinformation disclose the amounts spent on such reportage as contributions to the Biden campaign? Isn’t the suppression of information that might cause voters to think negatively of a candidate “election interference?”

    Nah. That’s different.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

      How "suppressed" do you imagine the story was, I wonder?

      The NY Post story was published on October 14, 2020--three weeks before the November 3, 2020 election.

      Xitter blocked it from being shared for ~36 hours.

      Facebook did not block sharing, but prevented its algorithm from pushing it into the feeds of other users, for a few days.

      Neither Xitter nor Facebook prevented anyone from posting links to the NY Post story itself.

      No other social media blocked the story, or its sharing, for any length of time, as far as I know.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

        ^ Speaking of "denial".

      2. CountmontyC   12 months ago

        What a liar. Twitter suspended the New York Post's account for 16 days.
        https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/twitter-unblocks-new-york-post-hunter-biden-hacked-materials-1234820449/
        And both acted to limit shari g of the story for weeks.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

          Er, that refers to the NY Post's own Xitter account, not the NY Post story about Hunter's supposed laptop.

          We've been discussing how the "Hunter laptop story" was "suppressed", in case you've forgotten.

          But you're not a liar. You're just badly informed, credulous and not very bright.

  26. Jose 3   12 months ago

    Perhaps someone should remind (or inform) Mr Bump that the FBI, in fact, had possession of the laptop long before the Post's October 14th release, knew it was authentic, and said nothing publicly to dispel the "manufactured" rumors regarding its authenticity or supposed Russian origin.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   12 months ago

      The FBI knew the Steele dossier was BS. You didn't hear much about that either.

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

      They may have known the laptop was “authentic”, but what you’re suggesting would have required the FBI to have responded to each public disclosure of a supposed piece of information alleged to have been copied from an image of the laptop’s hard drive, confirming or questioning its authenticity in real time. Was that their job?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   12 months ago

        Trying for a medal in the mental gymnastics event? You lost.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   12 months ago

        Has anyone ever asked these 51 intel people what, specifically, were the “hallmarks of Russian disinformation” that apparently weren’t there? Seems conveniently vague, no?

        It was a deflect operation all the way and it only needed to muddy things up for a few weeks.

        Goddamn, you’re gullible.

        1. Marshal   12 months ago

          "Gullible" implies he's being fooled. Do you think so? Or is he trying to muddy the water even though he knows his claims are false?

          Consider his assertion that the FBI would have to respond to every public disclosure. This is clearly a lie, all they would have to do it state the laptop was authenticated. The only reason for such an obvious lie is the hope that people won't follow the logical steps, but instead simply accept the conclusion. Is that the act of someone or actively propagandizing?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            Publicly authenticating "the laptop" would have resolved a problem that didn't exist. No one was questioning the contents of "the laptop"--because no one had possession of "the laptop" other than the FBI.

            The issue was the authentication of the hard drive image, and every purported release of information supposedly from that image. You still don't get it!

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

          "Has anyone ever asked these 51 intel people what, specifically, were the “hallmarks of Russian disinformation” that apparently weren’t there?"

          Oh, I dunno, you mean something like this:

          "There are a number of factors that make us suspicious of Russian involvement.

          Such an operation would be consistent with Russian objectives, as outlined publicly and recently by the Intelligence Community, to create political chaos in the United States and to deepen political divisions here but also to undermine the candidacy of former Vice President Biden and thereby help the candidacy of President Trump. For the Russians at this point, with Trump down in the polls, there is incentive for Moscow to pull out the stops to do anything possible to help Trump win and/or to weaken Biden should he win. A “laptop op” fits the bill, as the publication of the emails are clearly designed to discredit Biden.

          Such an operation would be consistent with some of the key methods Russia has used in its now multi-year operation to interfere in our democracy – the hacking (via cyber operations) and the dumping of accurate information or the distribution of inaccurate or misinformation. Russia did both of these during the 2016 presidential election – judgments shared by the US Intelligence Community, the investigation into Russian activities by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and the entirety (all Republicans and Democrats) on the current Senate Intelligence Committee.

          Such an operation is also consistent with several data points. The Russians, according to media reports and cybersecurity experts, targeted Burisma late last year for cyber collection and gained access to its emails. And Ukrainian politician and businessman Adriy Derkach, identified and sanctioned by the US Treasury Department for being a 10-year Russian agent interfering in
          the 2020 election, passed purported materials on Burisma and Hunter Biden to Giuliani.

          Our view that the Russians are involved in the Hunter Biden email issue is consistent with two other significant data points as well. According to the Washington Post, citing four sources, “U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence.”

          In addition, media reports say that the FBI has now opened an investigation into Russian involvement in this case. According to USA Today, “…federal authorities are investigating whether the material supplied to the New York Post by Rudy Giuliani…is part of a smoke bomb of disinformation pushed by Russia.”

          Yes, the letter was a deflect operation--an attempt to deflect the possible Russian interference the authors believed may have been involved in the leaking of the emails:

          "Perhaps most important, each of us believes deeply that American citizens should determine the outcome of elections, not foreign governments. All of us agree with the founding fathers’
          concern about the damage that foreign interference in our politics can do to our democracy."

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

            (The more astute among you may have noticed that the above is copied directly from the same letter you so love to complain about.)

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

              All of which was complete and total bullshit by political operatives for the Dems using their professions to provide professional cover for their well-poisoning.

  27. DeAnnP   12 months ago

    .... he many alterations made the laptop all but impossible to trust. ‘The forensic quality of this thing is garbage,’ says Johns Hopkins computer-science professor Matthew Green, a cryptography expert who examined the drive for the Washington Post. He told the paper that it was like a crime scene that previous detectives had left strewn with burger wrappers.

    In fact, even Mac Isaac, the origin of the copied hard drive, has indicated that some of the supposed contents of the laptop which have leaked out over the last two years are not familiar to him. (As of the publication of the New York magazine article, Hunter Biden had not conceded that he was the individual who dropped off the laptop(s) and his legal team is still reviewing the contents of the hard drive, a copy of which they have obtained from a government source.)....

    https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/framing-hunter-biden

    1. ravenshrike   12 months ago

      Right, which is why Hunter dropped his lawsuit against Rudy. It’s not like with the conclusion of the criminal trial Guiliani could have forced Hunter through discovery to compare the files against the ones in his iCloud or anything. Oh wait…

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   12 months ago

        There are many reasons why someone might drop a lawsuit. This wasn't a settlement--Biden can possibly re-file the case so long as the statute of limitations has not passed. That said, after his bankruptcy is finalized, it is doubtful that Rudy will have any assets for Hunter to seize, much less to pay lawyers to conduct iCloud discovery for him.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   12 months ago

          All of which is nothing more than supposition on your part that can be summarily dismissed.

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