Israel Raids the Associated Press and Seizes Equipment Over War Coverage
There's no justification for cracking down on news organizations for reporting the news during war.

The deadly war between Israel and Hamas, the political party that controls the Gaza Strip and which the U.S. State Department has designated a terrorist organization since 1997, has stretched into its seventh month. Over 1,000 Israelis and 10,000–35,000 Palestinians have lost their lives (though the death toll in Gaza has been a point of contention).
Ever since Hamas' October 7 surprise attack on Israel, in which raiders killed over 1,000 people and took another 240 hostage, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's stated goal has been to "destroy Hamas." But Netanyahu's government has taken steps that contradict the principles of a free society and undercut its reputation as the Middle East's only true democracy.
"Israeli officials seized a camera and broadcasting equipment belonging to The Associated Press in southern Israel," the news organization reported on Tuesday, amid accusations of "violating a new media law by providing images to Al Jazeera." The A.P.'s live feed of Gaza went dead after the seizure.
On April 1, Israeli lawmakers passed a law that would allow the government to shut down foreign news networks deemed a threat to national security. The Times of Israel reported that the law was specifically intended to target Al Jazeera, the Qatar-based news network that has often been accused of anti-Israel or pro-Hamas bias.
"The terrorist channel Al Jazeera will no longer broadcast from Israel," Netanyahu pledged in an April 1 post on X (formerly Twitter). "I intend to act immediately in accordance with the new law to stop the channel's activity." Netanyahu charged that the network had "harmed Israel's security, actively participated in the October 7 massacre, and incited against [Israel Defense Forces] soldiers."
The move was broadly denounced. "Such slanderous accusations will not deter us from continuing our bold and professional coverage," Al Jazeera said in a statement.
"We think the work that the independent free press does is important everywhere in the world, and much of what we know about what has happened in Gaza is because of reporters who are there doing their jobs, including reporters from Al Jazeera," U.S. State Department spokesman Matthew Miller told reporters after the law passed. "I think it's well known that we've not always agreed with all of Al Jazeera's coverage, but it's a media organization that we engage with."
White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre called the move "concerning," adding that "the United States supports the critically important work journalists around the world do," including "those who are reporting [on] the conflict in Gaza."
On May 5, Israel forcibly closed Al Jazeera's satellite office in Tel Aviv, seized its broadcast equipment, and blocked access to its websites and broadcasts from within the country, after the government unanimously approved a proposal to do so.
Then on Tuesday, Israel did the same to the A.P.
The country's communications ministry had ordered the A.P. to cease its live broadcast of footage from Gaza last week, which the outlet refused to do. As a result, officials seized broadcast equipment, saying in a statement that "the communications ministry will continue to take whatever enforcement action is required to limit broadcasts that harm the security of the state."
"The AP complies with Israel's military censorship rules, which prohibit broadcasts of details like troops movements that could endanger soldiers," the outlet noted. "Al Jazeera is one of thousands of AP customers, and it receives live video from AP and other news organizations."
"The Associated Press decries in the strongest terms the actions of the Israeli government to shut down our longstanding live feed showing a view into Gaza and seize AP equipment," said A.P. Vice President of Corporate Communications Lauren Easton in an earlier version of the article. "The shutdown was not based on the content of the feed but rather an abusive use by the Israeli government of the country's new foreign broadcaster law."
Hours after the seizure, the A.P.'s story was updated to say that "Israel's communications minister ordered the government to return a camera and broadcasting equipment it had seized from The Associated Press, reversing course hours after blocking the news organization's live video of Gaza." It noted that this came after "the Biden administration, journalism organizations and an Israeli opposition leader condemned the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and pressured it to reverse the decision."
While Israel has no constitution, its laws do recognize a general freedom of speech, including freedom of the press. Even if you fully support Israel's actions since October 7—and polls show fewer and fewer Americans do, even though they find its cause to be righteous—it's hard to justify such an egregious crackdown on a free press.
Unfortunately, there is a trend even among nominally free nations to crack down on dissent in wartime.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has shown admirable force of will since Russian forces invaded his country in 2022. But he has also enacted repressive measures, using Russian aggression as justification: In 2021, Zelenskyy's government shuttered three pro-Russia news networks. Even though this act predated the invasion, Zelenskyy defended the move as "by no means an attack on freedom of speech" but rather "a well-founded decision to protect national security."
The following year, after Russia's incursion into the country, Zelenskyy went even further: "With the declaration of martial law in February came a prohibition on male citizens aged 18–60 leaving the country," Reason's Stephanie Slade wrote in July 2022. "Then in March, the government combined the country's national TV stations into a single state-approved broadcast and suspended 11 opposition political parties it described as 'pro-Russian.'"
In fairness, during World War I, the U.S. prosecuted and convicted two socialists under the Espionage Act for handing out pamphlets that encouraged young men to oppose the draft. The Supreme Court later upheld the conviction in a unanimous decision that gave us the "fire in a crowded theater" canard.
Again, it is difficult to look at the facts of Russia's invasion of Ukraine—a large expansionist power undertaking a war of aggression against a nearby sovereign nation, with vague justifications like "de-Nazification"—and see Russia as anything other than an authoritarian aggressor. But that doesn't excuse Ukraine's repressive actions, even if they were nominally taken with the intent to counter Russia.
By the same token, even if you support Israel's conduct since October 7, there is no justification for cracking down on news organizations for doing nothing more than reporting the news.
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The cracking down should be on cuckold MSM media types in the west.
Loose lips hug statist tips.
If you’re committing crimes against humanity and about to have warrants for your arrest issued by the ICC you might think destroying evidence is “Justified”.
Bibi gonna swing.
Misek swears the holocaust never happened, but this purported gEnOciDe, where the only evidence we have is Hamas's wildly fluctuating numbers?
Totes legit.
Neither the US or Israel are signatories to the ICC Nazi.
People are questioning why both the US and Israel removed their signatures from the ICC previously the Rome Statute.
It’s not because the US is opposed to participating in international tribunals without juries like they did in Nuremberg, Tokyo, Kosovo and Rwanda.
They just don’t want to commit to supporting a court when they are guilty.
The video is basically 2 hours of irrefutable evidence after evidence and a list of banned books and information about Hitlers connection to assist Jewish interests.
https://www.targetfreedomusa.com/the-nazi-zionist-connection-shocking-hidden-history/
At 15:10 in the video the book Hitlers Jewish Soldiers by Brian Mark Riggs is referenced.
Hitler had in his army.
150000 Jewish Soldiers
1100 Jewish officers
79 high ranking Jewish officers
9 Jewish generals
At 18:00 in the video “the final solution to Hitler” by Dave Condit jr.
1933 was a big year for Zionists.
Both Hitler and FDR came to power in March.
Jews globally boycotted all German trade.
Hitler made the transfer agreement with Zionists to ship Jews, their money and Nazi made goods to Palestine.
FDR closed US borders to Jewish immigration.
Jewish ships carrying Jews, their money and goods like building materials to Palestine, Tel Aviv, flew Nazi flags.
Hitler never complained, yet the popular narrative, the ONLY LEGAL narrative in many countries is that his objective was to kill all Jews. My ass!
No people are questioning. Just the Nazis.
Because questioning is what Nazis do?
Says Jew?
I read that Himler was a jew. So were many in the SS.
"At 15:10 in the video the book Hitlers Jewish Soldiers by Brian Mark Riggs is referenced.
Hitler had in his army.
150000 Jewish Soldiers
1100 Jewish officers
79 high ranking Jewish officers
9 Jewish generals "
Here's a bit more thorough coverage of the book, including an interview with the author (named Bryan Rigg, not Brian Riggs, btw.).
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-12-24-mn-12209-story.html
Some key excerpts:
[“Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the military with Hitler’s knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time exterminated their families,” Rigg said.]
The vast majority of those cited were considered to be Jews under the criteria used by the 3rd Reich to decide who qualified fro extermination based on their ancestry, but didn't actively practice the religion or consider themselves to be Jewish.
[Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including two field marshals and 10 generals, “men commanding up to 100,000 troops.” In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the Knight’s Cross, Germany’s highest military honor, he said.]
I'm not sure the book cited would actually support the claim of 150k "Jewish" soldiers in the German army, since the author only verified the ancestral heritage of less than 1% of that number of individuals. Definitely not sufficient proof to qualify as indisputable or clear the bar for substatiation under the "Misek Honesty Enforcement Act" (were it ever to be enacted following the repeal of the US Constitution).
[The old soldiers give Rigg both documents and their stories of war, peace and suffering. He says many still struggle with a question that is a challenge to history: If I fought in the German army while my mother died in a Nazi concentration camp, am I a villain or a victim?]
Even the former soldiers and officers interviewed in the book would confirm to a man that the Holocaust and organized extermination of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other "undesirable" types actually took place from 1942-1945.
In case you're wondering why so few people bring up evidence to refute your claims on here, it's partly because half or more of the supposed "proof" you cite actually disproves the claims you're making. If you understood that actual rules of logic and reason instead of making up your own version of "properly applied" whatever (in which what you think is "proper" logic is generally some type of established fallacy that's been known to thinking humans for almost as long as there have been Jews living in Jerusalem).
The cited source would debunk the claim th
“Here’s a bit more thorough coverage of the book, “
How could an interview 6 years prior to the publication of the book, be “more thorough”coverage of it?
I suspect the book I referenced published in 2002 is “more thorough” than a 1996 interview.
Maybe people can’t refute what I say because they are as stupid as you are.
Then again maybe it’s just the truth I share that you can’t refute.
Maybe you should have read some of the synopses of the book instead of just citing the cherry-picked numbers that were shared out on Richard Spencer's RSS feed...
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0700611789/reasonmagazinea-20/
The last couple sentences from the Publishers Weekly synopses...
"By 1944, many of the loopholes in the racial purity laws were closed, and many military mischlinge perished in the camps. Those who survived were later often rejected by the Jewish community because of their service in the German armed forces."
In case the neo-nazi "home school" you went to in Hayden Lake didn't cover the German language "Mischlinge" is the German word for "mixed races" (maybe you're more accustomed to the term "mud people"?), and most of the "Jewish" soldiers in the German army didn't actually consider themselves to be Jewish, but had enough in their ancestry to qualify for execution once the order was given to start the "final solution".
I bet your latest video didn't cite the parts of the book (maybe whoever made the video didn't read past the first chapters?) where most of the "Jewish soldiers" they're so interested in ultimately met the same fate as the relatives that some of them apparently thought they were protecting through their service.
Judaism is a religion, not a race. Any laws against Jews are laws against religion.
Only Judaism requires that descendants of Jews are by default, Jews. Thereby pretending to be “a race”.
Everyone, including Nazis, recognizes this.
You recognize and admit that hundreds of thousands of Jews were employed as Hitlers soldiers holding all ranks including many generals.
That alone is in direct contradiction to “wanting to kill all jews”.
So you're saying the whole book is basically true, except for the part where it talks about most of the "Jewish" soldiers in the Wehrmacht being taken away to the camps after the policies were changed in 1944?
And the part where most of the "hundreds of thousands" (up from the previous claim of 150k, since hundreds implies at least 200k) were considered to be "Jewish" under the laws of Germany and the Third Reich, but didn't consider themselves to actually be Jews?
Not to mention that if being "Jewish" is only a religion, then the vast majority of the 150k, who didn't practice that religion, were therefore not "Jews", in which case, it's a lie that there were 150k "Jews" serving in the German military during WW2.
Another reason you think you've "never been proven wrong", even you don't seem to know whether you're supporting or disputing the claim of so many "Jewish" soldiers in Hitler's military; probably because you're trying to work from heavily "spun" interpretations of third-hand citations of out-of-context claims stitched together for the purpose of keeping cultists like yourself from questioning your current "fuhrer". I hope you're at least a skier so you can properly enjoy the real perks of living in Whitefish, MT.
"FDR closed US borders to Jewish immigration."
Finally, you've stumbled onto a claim that's factual and provable by recognized historical records. As the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
"Jewish ships carrying Jews, their money and goods like building materials to Palestine, Tel Aviv, flew Nazi flags."
If they fled Germany in boats registered in Germany, international law would require that. Besides that, prior to Operation Postmaster, flying a German flag on any kind of vessel was a much safer way to cross any waters which the U-Boats were operating in.
"Hitler never complained, yet the popular narrative, the ONLY LEGAL narrative in many countries is that his objective was to kill all Jews. My ass!"
Are we now supposed accept on your word that the "Final Solution to the Jewish Problem" was actually hard-core Zionism? Maybe Hitler was the original "skinhead" (or did the neo-nazis who raised you in Idaho forget to teach you that the idea of shaving the head to "make their beliefs clear to the world" was first practiced by hard-core Zionists?) and just wore a wig in his public appearances? I suppose you'd also have us believe that the 6 million who were "allegedly" killed in the holocaust were actually all transported to British occupied land on the east coast of the Mediterranean? If the Nazis took 6 million Jews to "Palestine" between 1942 and 1945, then why were there only a fraction of that number in the area in 1947? For all your denial of the "OG" Genocide which tens of thousands of witness accounts agree happened in occupied Europe, you never have offered any hypothesis as to where the 12 million missing people from the camps might have actually gone if they weren't killed.
If Hitler planned to kill all Jews why would he engage in the “transfer agreement” with Zionists without complaint, employ thousands of them in his military and let so many of those “fish in a barrel” survive the war in his prison camps?
If Hitler was letting so many Jews leave to Palestine why wouldn’t he let many more emigrate elsewhere? Why would he care about Palestine?
Your argument isn’t even compelling much less proof of a holocaust.
Fact is letting Jews live is in direct contradiction to wanting to kill them all.
The bullshit narrative just doesn’t add up.
Hitler didn't plan genocide from day one. In 1933, the German economy was still reeling from the damage done by the Weimarr government and the beginning of formally building up the Wehrmacht was still 2 years into the future. I'm sure that in that situation, emigration was pretty much the only means Hitler would have had available in order to rid his country of Jews, and there'd be no reason for him not to use it.
You're actually wondering why there weren't agreements to organize more mass emigrations to other countries while also citing the fact that the Roosevelt administration refused to admit them to the USA (a nation built on the basis of immigration, largely those leaving Europe for one reason or another)? I'm pretty sure you've got your own answer right there, or you're just too deranged to connect two dots which are very nearly touching as it is.
Do you also wonder why FDR didn't just drop the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the week or two following Pearl Harbor and save the world all of the suffering which was part of the Pacific portion of WW2? After all, if it happened it must have been the plan from day one of the administration.
The "final solution" was Himmler's idea, not Hitler's, and the mass extermination order didn't go out to the camps until January 1942, which was 3 years after the invasion of Poland, and 2 years after the invasion of France, Belgium, and Holland. In an incredible coincidence, the German Red Cross (international Red Cross was never allowed into the country) stopped reporting on the camps starting a few months into 1942. The reason why Red Cross inspectors never saw any evidence of mass exterminations in the camps is that they weren't allowed access into the camps after the exterminations had begun on a large scale.
https://www.icrc.org/en/document/icrc-wwii-holocaust
One million people (maybe more) were taken to Auschwitz during the course of the war. Fewer than 10,000 were there in 1945 when the camp was captured by Russian forces. That's a survival rate of less than 1%, unless you can provide some kind of evidence to support your idea that the other 99% of those people (and the other 11 million people who disappeared from all human records in that same time period) were just "taken to some other camp". At a 99%+ kill rate, it's not so much that so many were "allowed to survive", it's that the staff at the camps didn't manage to kill every last one of them. In at least one of the camps (Bergen-Belsen), the last 60k prisoners (less than half of the total number taken to the camp) staged an uprising and took control of the camp to prevent the final wave of desperation killing by the staff before their area was captured by US forces and the camp liberated; the camps within Germany were the last to start trying to exterminate their prisoners though, since the local public had more access to see those facilities as opposed to the ones located in occupied countires (Auschwitz was in Poland, which was only "German" territory from 1939-1945, and only really ever seen first hand by the prisoners and the staff as far as German Nationals were concerned).
If more than 10 million people were taken to the camps, and only a relatively small number of them ever died there, then why weren't there still more than 10million people in the camps in 1945? If they all escaped, then why didn't millions of them ever eventually show up somewhere else in the world? If they all escaped and then died of "natural causes" while on the run, where were the millions of bodies? Seems like 990k dead corpses rotting in the forests of Poland would have created a smell that would have been noticeable in Moscow (or at least in Minsk).
The fact is that during the war, the Red Cross visited all camps, including Auschwitz in 1944, and NEVER REPORTED ANYTHING like a holocaust.
They did report a total of 271000 deaths of all religions across all camps for the entire war.
It wasn’t until many years later, when providing any evidence to refute the bullshit holocaust narrative became a crime punishable by imprisonment, that their story changed. No new records, just a new story.
Funny how that happens, eh?
I’m in favour of decriminalizing the evidence that refutes the holocaust in every nation where it allegedly occurred to forensic the bullshit out of it. Jews aren’t.
Blocking comments
The link provides images of a letter clearly demonstrating that the Red Cross visited Aushwitz in 1944 finding a normal camp with NO EVIDENCE of any kind of bullshit holocaust.
Hahaha. Reason is blocking the link
That'll happen when you're using the dark web link to the Daily Stormer, I guess....
"The fact is that during the war, the Red Cross visited all camps, including Auschwitz in 1944, and NEVER REPORTED ANYTHING like a holocaust."
I posted a link to verify that the Red Cross says what I'm claiming they're saying.
Where's your proof that there was ever a report from a visit to Auschwitz in 1944, or supporting the 271k number you're claiming?
If more than 12 million people went into the camps, and less than 300k died there, then why weren't there over 11 million people still in the camps at the end of the war? What happened to the more than 10 million people who were never seen alive again anywhere on the planet after being taken to the camps? That's more people than the current populations of NYC or Los Angeles, and a number bigger than the aggregate population of more than 20 US States that all vanished. If they didn't die in the camps, then when did they leave, where did they go, and why did they never make any serious attempt to make contact with their friends and relatives who didn't get taken to the camps at any time over the following 8 decades?
Just confused why this gets a story but the FBI raiding PV was crickets.
Even that was more than the arrest of the Blaze journalists for just being at the J6 event got here. Can't have the suppression of the citizenry covered if it sends the wrong message.
It all makes sense when you realize the press corps just exists to serve the (democrat) state.
Nobody wanted to pin the target for the next raid on their own back by making the Veritas raids into a bigger story.
US-based outlets don't need to worry about being raided by either the IDF or Hamas.
Don’t is real back down on confiscation?
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-05-21/israel-confiscates-ap-camera-equipment-over-live-feed-to-al-jazeera
This should retracted or clarified.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-05-21/israel-confiscates-ap-camera-equipment-over-live-feed-to-al-jazeera
Poor journalists!
They’re enemy combatants, drop them into the med.
It's one thing to say that not even our own corrupt, misguided and incompetent Federal officials agree with Israel, but it's quite another to cite that disagreement as evidence that Israel is wrong to shut down Al Jazeera. Especially when those same corrupt, misguided and incompetent Federal officials have in the past, and would again, ban news agencies from recording and reporting in our own war zones if they claimed that security was being compromised.
Wait What?!
FBI Authorized Use of Deadly Force During Mar-a-Lago Raid
https://www.declassified.live/p/fbi-authorized-use-of-deadly-force
The FBI also considered various scenarios should the former president unexpectedly arrive at his residence during the raid. Agents were also prepared to go door-to-door to terrorize Mar-a-Lago guests if staff refused to turn over room keys:
In addition to lock-picking equipment, FBI agents were armed with “Standard Issue Weapon, Ammo, [and] Handcuffs” as well as “medium and large sized bolt cutters.”
Perhaps most shockingly, the FBI team included a medic to tend to anyone “injured”
Additional exhibits in the unsealed motion today also indicate agents ransacked the bedrooms of Melania and Barron Trump
The alphabet agencies and the Justice Department are absolutely going to have to kill Trump before November.
They went way too far and broke way too many laws trying to get him. There are so many people who are guaranteed at least 20 years if they get their comeuppance that they can't let him win.
What will you do when your prediction is wrong?
Breathe a sigh of relief.
And what will you do, if they do? Dance a little jig?
There are a lot of things on my mind right now that I really, really hope I am wrong about.
I don’t worry myself over stupid conspiracy bullshit. But if Trump is killed I will brace for war and hope someone like you doesn’t murder me over the brand of car that I drive.
It's ok for sarc to make these kind of predictions.
It's (D)ifferent for SarcasmicHE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT!!!!Step 1: “It’s not going to happen.”
Step 2: “It happened and I’m glad.”
- sarc
Correct. You don't worry about them. You push them because the media and government told you to. Censorship, covid, Ukraine, political arrests, J6, etc.
ML breathes a sigh of relief when he consumes his daily dose of bleach to neutralize the microchips in his body.
They authorized deadly force against a fat, 77-year-old ex-president over documents, you mendacious shill.
And to fight the Secret Service. And to harass guests at MAL.
Time for Garland to be brought up on charges. And in FL, not DC.
Maybe they have Trump confused with Tony Montana.
"And to fight the Secret Service"
They were prepared to engage the Secret Service in a shootout to get their paws on the Crossfire Hurricane documents, but assassinate Trump? Fat Nazi Jeff says that's cOnsPiRaToRiAL thinking.
They were prepared to defend themselves. I guess in ML's world, officers should conduct raids unarmed and defenseless.
They shouldn’t be conducting raids.
Defend themselves from whom you fat statist fuck?
Officers should not be plain-clothed when entering a facility manned by the Secret Service.
But keep on defending Biden.
I saw that. Funny. You truly believe this is a Trump thing, when they authorize deadly force over warrants for failure to appear in court for a ticket. They send SWAT to homes over unpaid traffic violations. Officer safety is everything, which means deadly force is a rubber stamp.
If you had any principles at all you'd be outraged over how blithely deadly force is authorized, not crying over the man.
Yup. It is the same thing when they complain about the treatment in prison of the Jan. 6 prisoners. I am totally willing to believe that the prisoners are not being treated well. But instead of saying even one word about how terrible a place prison is in the first place, for ALL the prisoners, instead they only give a shit about the prisoners for THEIR team and say absolutely nothing at all about the guy in the next prison cell over who was convicted for far less than the Jan. 6 rioters and is treated even worse.
It is almost entirely principals over principles at this point. They will say and do anything to justify treating their tribe favorably, without regard to principles or consistency, and completely justify treating the other tribe horribly.
Hey fatty. Were thr J6 prisoners treated any differently than others?
You and sarc have really dug your heels into supporting the political authoritarian state.
Weird --- no such thing when they went to Biden's for his documents.
And Biden did not have the GSA packing the papers and telling his people to come get them in the first place.
Your incessant willingness to defend the Left is duly noted.
You truly believe this is a Trump thing, when they authorize deadly force over warrants for failure to appear in court for a ticket.
This wasn't an unknown guy with a teenth and a no-knock raid by the LAPD.
This was the fucking last president of the US with some documents, and it was the fucking FBI going in on the authorization of the 86th United States attorney general.
You fucking Democratic Party shills are grasping at straws now.
That's right. Who gives a shit about the rando punk in LA.
Nobody.
My God jeff. Suck the states dick harder.
Okay, ML. Be specific. What part of the cited source authorized "deadly force against a fat, 77-year-old ex-president"?
I will tell you the answer: only if the fat, 77-year-old ex-president decided to shoot at the officers. That is when deadly force was authorized by the FBI, in self-defense or in the defense of others. You know, what libertarians routinely believe is the standard for when deadly force is morally justified.
And since the fat, 77-year-old ex-president wasn't even there at the time of the raid, and the FBI KNEW that he wasn't there at the time of the raid, there was negligible chance that there was going to be any force exercised against him in the first place.
But because your whole purpose here is to carry water for Team Red, you are going to deliberately mischaracterize the document as if the FBI was authorized to shoot Trump on sight. They were not.
You are dishonest, you are intentionally dishonest, and you should drink bleach.
That’s an awful lot of twisting and gymnastics for a fat fucking Nazi.
“Okay, ML. Be specific. What part of the cited source authorized “deadly force against a fat, 77-year-old ex-president”?”
This part you laughable shill:
2. Should the FPOTUS arrive at MAL, FBI MM EM and OSCs will be prepared to engage with FPOTUS and the USSS security team.
3. Should the USSS provide resistance or interfere with the FBI timeline or accesses, FBI MM EM will engage with [redacted] FBI8 [redacted] FBI 19 will engage with USSS POC’s per existing liason relationships.
and this part:
Here is the use of deadly force instructions attached to the FBI’s operational instructions.
It must be hard to lie so furiously and passionately and have it all crumble to dust with a couple of quotes. You’re lucky that you’re evil and enjoy lying.
"only if the fat, 77-year-old ex-president decided to shoot at the officers."
Ignoring the part where the Secret Service are the ones with the guns that they were authorized to engage, huh?
2. Should the FPOTUS arrive at MAL, FBI MM EM and OSCs will be prepared to engage with FPOTUS and the USSS security team.
That's right. Engage. Apparently to you, "engage" means "participate in a shootout". But "engage" also means to meet and coordinate. The big tell is here:
3. Should the USSS provide resistance or interfere with the FBI timeline or accesses, FBI MM EM will engage with [redacted] FBI8 [redacted] FBI 19 will engage with USSS POC’s per existing liason relationships.
"Engage" doesn't mean "have a shootout", it means "meet with the liaisons"!
But your team has to twist the truth to make it sound far more sinister than it really is, to prop up this bullshit narrative of FBI agents ordered to shoot Trump on sight, or something. Because the truth is not helpful enough to you, you have to lie to try to substitute the truth with your own "truthy" narrative.
Here is the use of deadly force instructions attached to the FBI’s operational instructions.
Your source is lying by omission.
From your source:
"Law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary..."
That ellipsis is doing a lot of work! It also omits key context, because the full sentence is:
"Law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person."
And the source for this was Gaear Grimsrud's own link, which you apparently didn't even bother to read.
Not only does your source omit the key bolded word "only", it also omits that deadly force was only authorized in self-defense. As I said. BECAUSE THEY ARE LYING TO YOU, and you know this, and you dutifully repeat those lies, thinking that no one will check.
Ignoring the part...
I'm not ignoring anything. YOU were the one who mentioned the potential use of deadly force against the "fat 77-year-old ex-president", and not the Secret Service agents. Why did YOU ignore the SS agents? Hmm?
Jeff. The fact you can't say this is bad is further proof you're a fat authoritarian democrat shill.
Tell that to Randy Weaver & the victims of the Waco,Tx. massacre.
This is low-IQ clickbait journalism here and you fall for it every time. Knowingly, because you want to push false stories which make your team look good than have to reckon with the truth of the situation.
Libertarians for the police state!
The guy citing sourced primary documents is the low IQ? Or the dem nazi hand waiving it for excuses?
Jeff. Bookmarking your support of authoritarian state against your political enemies. Thanks buddy.
You still wearing a mask jeff?
A gimp mask?
And Jeff comes in with the false dem narratives.
There are so many conspiracy theories packed into this one comment, that no one here seriously put forward, it should be a litmus test to how much of a partisan hack someone is.
I read they spent some time going through Melania's bedroom. Probably looking for the right color panties they can wear.
"Agent Smith, how do I look wearing this red lacy bra and panties?"
Shades of J. Edgar.
Did the FBI ever do away with Hoover's old rule that every agent is required to be carrying a firearm when on duty, and that FBI agents are never "off duty"?
Agents executing a warrant on a facility that's believed to be locked carrying lock-picks and bold cutters doesn't seem to be all that shocking as a revelation. Standard Issue Weapon and Handcuffs would seem to be something they'd carry on pretty much any day on the job almost regardless of what they're doing; Federal law enforcement are even allowed to carry their guns and handcuffs when traveling on commercial airline flights.
Should I also be surprised to find out that an Uber driver is carrying a drivers license and car keys?
The deadly war between Israel and Hamas
Have there been some non-deadly wars?
Jeff’s war against anorexia. He won with his adversary agreeing to an unconditional surrender.
There is the tale of Lichtenstein sending 80 men to war in some Austria/Prussian war in 1800s and upon returning they had 81.
Is the AP even a news organization anymore? It might be fair to call them paid advocacy. Of course if you value free speech, paid advocates shouldn't get shut down either.
It might be fair to call them a combatant.
All leftists are enemy combatants.
It is shaping up that way.
See if I’ve got this right. If you disagree with Trump you’re a leftist. If you’re a leftist you’re an enemy combatant. Enemy combatants must be killed. Therefore anyone who disagrees with Trump must be killed.
“See if I’ve got this right.”
Whenever you see Sarc use this, you know that he hasn’t got it right at all, and has probably come up with a strawman of some sort.
I start with your premises and rules, then see where they lead.
What part was wrong?
Everything you've said for the last 5 years.
You, as per usual, did not "get this right"
Go back to the Hollywood gossip stories, sarc.
“See if I’ve got this right.”
You don’t.
They're not even left in the classic sense. They're a motley assortment of pseudo-aristocratic establishmentarians and post modern identarian progressives.
Absolutely! People outside my tribe are not only wrong, they are traitors and should be executed. That's the zeitgeist around here.
Most of your tribe was hung by the end of 1946, but I see you guys are picking up converts again.
Libertarians were hung in 1946? Which ones?
Libertarians don't retweet sulu and Katie Hill fat fuck.
Tribes. What a moron.
Jeff likes to use that word a lot.
How do you fight a war effectively if you have someone filming it and broadcasting it to your enemy?
Keeping your military's actions secret, at least as much as possible, is one of the key things in warfare. Letting the AP go and tell Hamas what you are doing is not something that should be permitted.
The AP is lucky that Israel just seized their stuff, they could have been executed as spies, given how AP hires Hamas members.
You can't have members of the other side report on your military and then just claim they are press.
Those of us older than 12 remember news coverage of the Vietnam War.
The carefully curated coverage.
Was that news coverage telling the Viecong our troop movements and plans?
Those of us older than 12 remember news coverage of the Vietnam War.
The war ended 50 years ago. People older than 60 might remember the coverage. Dementia patients like you probably only imagine that they remember the coverage.
I remember quite well, the news coverage. When it began to show the real truth about the numbers of dead American young boys and then the massacre led by Lt. Calley, followed by Walter Cronkite's honest assessment of that war was a disaster for the MIC and the Pentagram.
My older brother was a heli pilot for the First Air Cavalry and what he told my dad, turned him against that awful war. It also influenced my decision to never enlist. I became anti-war after that.
I remember too. Guys like Dan Rather and Geraldo Rivera were actually on the ground not "embedded" with the military. We saw body bags coming home every day on the nightly news. Did we get the whole story? Of course not. We didn't have the Internet but we had the draft. We saw the consequences of the war at home with our own eyes in real time. The guys that came back weren't all injured but they were all damaged by what they saw over there. We all saw it. The Greatest wanted to believe we were still saving democracy but even they became disillusioned after time went by. I was anti war then and I haven't changed.
I don't think there was any coverage from Vietnam that went out live.
Desert Storm is a very different story, although the reporters on that footage were pointing cameras out their hotel window, or were "embedded" with some combat units and somewhat limited in what they could do. I do remember one day in 1991 when CNN attempted to get the family of a particular unit commander on the phone to talk to the Officer via CNNs link while their field reporter was interviewing him live during part of an advance by the mechanized unit he was in command of.
There was still a process that the footage from the field had to go through before it aired in the US. The information was old by the time the 6 o'clock news aired the carefully edited footage.
Now, I'm not defending Israel here. I've no love for the land of the Jews. There is however a difference between what we saw from Vietnam and what happens today with life from the field reports so accurate you can target artillery by watching the news.
""The AP complies with Israel's military censorship rules, which prohibit broadcasts of details like troops movements that could endanger soldiers," the outlet noted."
The truth of which is revealed by the fact that Israel apparently reversed itself: "Israel's communications minister ordered the government to return a camera and broadcasting equipment it had seized from The Associated Press, reversing course hours after blocking the news organization's live video of Gaza." It noted that this came after "the Biden administration, journalism organizations and an Israeli opposition leader condemned the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and pressured it to reverse the decision.""
So, yeah. Read all the way to the end of the article next time, eh?
Only antisemitic leftist support freedom of speech.
And here I thought we were all far-right now because of supporting free speech. This new political landscape is confusing as hell.
All depends on who is doing the speaking. Principals not principles.
Hypocrisy is your kink.
Sorry AP, you just got accused of 'disinformation' which is, according to you " A challenge to Democracy". Suck on that cock.
I think we can all agree that the real problem is a lack of Good Samaritans in the region to do all the blocking and screening.
One man's 'independent free press' is another man's 'terrorist propaganda arm'.
How do you like the cancel culture now, AP?
Pop Quiz!
The statement "It is acceptable for the government to censor the press during wartime" applies:
A. Only to Israel fighting Hamas
B. Only to Ukraine fighting Russia
C. Both to Israel and to Ukraine
D. Neither to Israel nor to Ukraine
How about censoring Covid-deniers on the internet. When did you say that was acceptable again?
Go back to drinking bleach.
Or people who deny the vaxx is dangerous, useless and ineffective.
Get over it. Please. It's old news.
Yeah, I'm more worried about (OUR) government censoring people during times of peace when people are critical of its handling of COVID and the usefulness of the vaccine.
What about bears in trunks?
5. When Disinformation threatens Democracy.
Yeah I didn't think anyone would answer honestly. Because the overlap between the people who are totally fine with Israel censoring the press when they fight Hamas, and the people condemning Zelensky as some type of dictator when he censors the press while Ukraine is fighting Russia, is near 100%.
Principals not principles. What matters is who, not what.
In particular when you two assholes are involved.
When the US government does it, I’ll give an opinion on it.
Answer: C (and to America and any other country as well)
example: Does anyone want their press reporting on live operations in the field as they happen? That compromises the lives of your soldiers.
And?
You think that's bad?
Garland authorized the FBI to use DEADLY FORCE in their raid on Mar-a-Lago. Including engaging with the Secret Service if needed. Were also going to harass MAL guests if needed.
Punishments need to be handed down. Savagely.
Jeff says this is just a conspiracy theory.
And to think that, except for the grace of God, that man would be on the supreme court.
Garland authorized the FBI to use DEADLY FORCE in their raid on Mar-a-Lago. in self defense.
There, fixed it for you. Do you expect officers to do their job without being able to defend themselves? Is this what "back the blue" means to you - officers aren't able to defend themselves?
Can you explain why they wanted them to go in there plain clothed instead of, you know, CONTACTING THE SECRET SERVICE.
Over papers placed there by the GSA who also told Trump's people to get this.
Odds are, the docs are already destroyed --- but Trump, on day one, needs to declassify and publicize EVERYTHING. They tried their damnedest to hide this shit as is.
Keep blowing the state "Radical individualist"
""Garland authorized the FBI to use DEADLY FORCE in their raid on Mar-a-Lago. in self defense.""
If someone would have approached them with an AR would it be ok for them to shoot?
AP has some serious anti-Israel bias which goes back decades. Of course, they're not alone... virtually all of mainstream media (to an extent, even conservative ones like WSJ) have some degree of bias against Jews and Israel. As such, it's really hard to feel bad for them...
Israel, more than any other state atm, is well within her right to execute the laws of her land over foreign, hostile entities... including "news" agencies if they're unwittingly (or more likely willingly) sharing sensitive information with Israel's enemies (e.g. troop movements). Heck, if Israel claims that AP's "news" coverage hurts the morale of the IDF soldiers in their war for survival then this would be a good of a reason as any, to shut AP down promptly.
All’s fair in love and war.
Now do Zelensky and Ukraine.
If the AP put a live feed on Donetsk to show what the Russians were doing in the region, and were sending the feed to Ukraine, do you think that they would let that remain operational? Would the Ukraine let it happen if RT did the same in Chasiv Yar and was broadcasting that to Russia?
No, I don't think the Ukrainian government would let that live feed stand. They would shut it down and cite wartime necessity to censor the press to justify it. And a great many commenters here would cite that decision by Zelensky as more proof that he's just a power-mad dictator and probably a Nazi to boot. But when Netanyahu does it, it's totally fine and it's actually the AP which is at fault.
Sad!
Anybody want to point out to Jeffy that Israel doesn't have a dictator?
They don't?
well at least not like Zelensky.
Zel isn't "technically" a dictator just like Israel isn't "technically" a theocracy.
Practically... well that's another story.
Zelensky gets shit on because his censorship was based on opposition to his leadership and publishing dissenting voices. And, AFAIK, does it unilaterally.
If the AP was shut down by Netanyahu unilaterally because they were just opposing him and publishing dissenting voices, this would be an apt comparison.
If they were both censored because of publishing troop movements, etc. I could understand it in both cases.
Israel apparently gave the AP's equipment back, so it's unlikely that the AP was "publishing troop movements", as you have so helpfully speculated without having any evidence.
So, Ukraine would be justified in doing that (which I agree with), for operational security, but Israel would not?
I noticed you didn't bother to comment on what Russia might do in the reverse situation; may I assume that you think it's fair / unfair tactics equally?
And, yeah, I didn't bother to ask about Hamas - they raped people to death as an attack move, unprovoked. So, they are dead to me. And should just be dead, period. Every single one of them.
"I will justify this by creating a hypothetical and guaranteeing that the evil people who disagree with me would be total hypocrites" --- a "radical individualist"
"While Israel has no constitution, it's laws do recognize a general freedom of speech..."
Welcome, Lancaster, to parliamentary democracy with an unwritten constitution where guarantees of freedom are more guidelines than actual rules that parliament can put aside when it deems it is in the public interest.
Well, there goes the illusion of democracy for israel. Of course they would do something like this. I am surprised they didn't accuse the Ap for promoting Hitler or denying their precious mythical holocaust.
Israel deserves what ever it gets. They are NOT our ally. America has been used and abused by that nasty little zionist shithole for far too long.
Just remember the words uttered by the foul nasty Netanyahu, who called for the destruction of America.
George Washington warned us about getting too cozy with one country over another. We were warned about foreign entanglements.
No one listened and those who opposed such entanglements were labelled isolationists.
Israel could lose 75% - 90% of their 'democracy' and they would still be the most democratic nation in the Middle East.
Even at 50% they still aren't locking people in old folks homes to die of COVID and censoring both the Great Barrington Declaration people *and* the Hunter Biden laptop people across virtually every major media outlet, conventional, social, or other.
“I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you.” - Friedrich Nietzsche
Smartest of Three Stooges comparison.
What are you doing ?
Providing material support to a terrorist organization.
Isn't that illegal...and immoral?
Well it would be, but see this tee shirt?
It says "press"
Bingo. I'm off the hook.
Israel Raids the Associated Press and Seizes Equipment Over War Coverage
US Kicks Russians Out For Tweeting Sends Billions To Ukraine To Support War Effort
Does anybody else remember when the US colluded with China, virtually the entirety of the US press, the WHO, and the top several Social Media Organizations to lock down the fucking world and rather literally nothing else happened?
Makes the whole "OMG! Israel kicked the AP out of an active war zone within their own borders." seem kinda... IDK... disgustingly dishonest.