What I Saw at the University of Virginia's Protest Crackdown
The college had a legal right to break up the pro-Palestine encampment. But does that mean it should?

On Saturday, dozens of police officers—many in riot gear—broke up a small pro-Palestine encampment at the University of Virginia.
The tent encampment had formed less than 24 hours prior. According to a letter from UVA President Jim Ryan, protesting students started what they called the "UVA liberation encampment for Gaza" on April 30 but complied with orders not to set up tents, which would violate university policy. However, following rain over Friday night, students put up several tents, leading university police to attempt to remove the encampment.
According to a statement from the university, university and local police arrived around 11:45 a.m. on Saturday to inform protesters that their demonstration was in violation of school policy and directed them to leave. But "police were met with aggression and protesters swung objects at officers. University police then requested the assistance of Virginia State Police to assist in declaring an unlawful assembly."
Controversy has sprung up around the university's tent policy after a section on tent permits that had explicitly exempted "recreational tents for camping" was apparently removed Saturday morning. UVA insists the change wasn't an attempt to entrap protesters.
"University officials said camping tents or other recreational tents are not allowed on University property without permits under a policy that has been in place since 2005," a Sunday statement reads. "However, the permit application—not the policy itself—contained contradictory language," which was edited after a faculty member notified the administration.
When I arrived on UVA's campus at around 1:15 p.m. on Saturday, police had already surrounded the encampment. The number of students actually in the encampment was dwarfed by the crowd that gathered to watch the standoff—a mixture of encampment supporters, pro-Israel counterprotesters, and rubberneckers.
I fell in that last group, jostling to get a good view of the standoff between police and protesters. Most people around me—myself included—spent much of the time recording the spectacle on their phones.
I can't say for sure whether the alleged aggression police were met with earlier in the day justified the police response, but as far as I saw on Saturday, the protest was confined to peaceful civil disobedience. The number of police alone was staggering—a mixture of state, county, city, and university police departments, many in full riot gear and several sporting large rifles. Even if the university was within its rights to break up the encampment, it was hard not to think about how disproportionate it looked.
It's difficult not to assume that the sheer size of the police presence was connected to the chaos and violence that has erupted at colleges like Columbia and UCLA in recent weeks—and UVA's hope to stifle the encampment before it grew unmanageable. However, compared to the mayhem at other universities, UVA's encampment looked incredibly, almost laughably tame.
The same went for the actual content of the protest. While students at Columbia shouted odious (though First Amendment-protected) slogans like "There is only one solution: intifada revolution," the protesters at UVA stayed away from controversial or violence-endorsing messages. All the chants I heard were focused on Gaza and generic support for a free Palestine. At one point, a protester attempted to start a chant of "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free," but no one joined her.
Regardless, the afternoon was ugly. After pushing protesters away from the actual encampment, police and protesters remained in an extended standoff. Police deployed chemical irritants into the crowd multiple times—spraying enough that area I was standing in was also hit with waves of it, despite being several yards away from the main protest. By the end of the day, 25 protesters were arrested, and the encampment was destroyed.
University administrators are in a genuine bind when it comes to protest encampments on their campuses. For starters, colleges are generally well within their rights to ban tent encampments. "Restrictions on encampments and building occupations generally satisfy the criteria of a legitimate time, place, and manner regulation," writes Jessie Appleby of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), a First Amendment group. "Institutions must be able to regulate on-campus expressive activity to ensure it doesn't interfere with their primary educational and scholarly missions."
If a college doesn't respond to a disruptive, prohibited tent encampment, it risks setting a precedent that incentivizes students to indefinitely take over patches of campus in protest. (Plus, it risks its president getting hauled before Congress.) If it responds too harshly, it creates a scene like the one at UVA, where police presence eclipses peaceful protesters and makes university leadership look like rank bullies.
At UVA, the administration seems to have gotten what they wanted—at least for now. As of Sunday, protests have begun again. This time, without the tents.
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The college had a legal right to break up the pro-Palestine encampment. But does that mean it should?
Yes. Absolutely. With extreme prejudice.
Is this how Jews plan to get away with their holocaust in Gaza? By criminalizing the recognition of it.
So even when Netanyahu and his ministers have arrest warrants issued for genocide and crimes against humanity, and they continue their genocide in Gaza, Israel and Jews are above the law and above criticism.
How low do you have to go to be criticized?
The US House passed the bullshit antisemitism bill criminalizing telling the truth about Jewish atrocities.
The bible is also illegal for saying that Jews killed Jesus.
This is the result of 76 years of funding a terrorist apartheid regime in Palestine called Israel with money, weapons and the lives of our troops.
Now the US government clearly demonstrates that its the dog being wagged by the tail of Jewish fascists.
Sir,
Could you please shorten these indecipherable rants a little? You know, like your betters did with Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei ?
Thank you.
Really I'd prefer if he stopped ranting in the Wendy's at all. It's distracting me from my frosty.
The protesters we're setting up their camps without permission, were violating their schools code of conduct and disrupting normal campus activities (graduation), so yes they had the right and were correct to call in police, break it up and arrest any resistors. I do agree that the antisemitism bill was way too broad in it's interpretation of what is antisemitism and it's probably unnecessary and just virtue signalling. Other than that I don't think I ever have previously and probably never will agree with you in the future. Maybe you can surprise me.
They’re protesting a holocaust funded by their government.
Not that it should matter to Jew.
So they’re allowed to violate other people’s rights because you agree with them. Got it.
Like the anti semitism bill violates everyone’s first amendment right to criticize the people and nation committing genocide.
The government and media are complicit in this holocaust.
Had Jews actually ever suffered a holocaust you’d think they’d support these protests.
This is obvious to everyone but Jew.
And back to the long form. Tsk tsk. I did not see that coming.
“This is obvious to everyone but Jew.”
He thought this was clever and felt proud to use it again. Sad.
I’m against the bill. That doesn’t have anything to do with these idiots violating other people’s rights, which you support. Not that I’m surprised.
These protests are peaceful until Jew and police stooges show up with weapons to attack them.
The protesters are simply saying the truth of the news going on in Gaza and demanding that support for genocide stop.
They’re only saying what is censored by our government and all mainstream media.
Soon these protests will be everywhere.
Bullshit, liar. I’ve seen dozens of examples of them violating people’s rights. Other students on these campuses aren’t responsible for their grievances, and they, and you, lose all moral credibility when they violate innocent people’s rights for their cause.
You don’t care about truth. You don’t care about people’s rights. You care about hating Jews. You’re a disgusting bigot.
Sharing the truth about Jewish atrocities in order to stop them doesn’t constitute hatred.
Although that might be your perception if you’re a bigoted advocate for them.
Oh, so you’re retarded. I’m sorry this discussion went so far over your head.
You are sorry.
There, short and no obfuscation. I knew you could lie just as well in the short form.
Sieg Heil, Rob Misek!
The bible is also illegal for saying that Jews killed Jesus.
Anyone want to shed some light on this statement?
Cuz I don't get it.
Unfortunately I he’s correct. The bill clearly violates 1A, and makes it illegal to say the Jews killed Jesus. Even worse it references some organizations definition of antisemitism. It’s a shit bill.
Not just “some organization”.
“The legislation mandates the Department of Education to use the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of antisemitism when enforcing federal anti-discrimination laws. This definition characterizes antisemitism as perceptions of “hatred toward Jews,” and includes elements such as denying Jewish people their right to self-determination and drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.”
I know I’m right.
Lol, you can’t help yourself bigot. Do you imagine ANY organization’s definition, that can be changed at anytime, should be basis for law of any kind? Because I don’t.
You’re literally agreeing with everything in my post except you felt the need to argue the fact that this particular group of Jews made it even worse. You tell on yourself.
A law making Jews above the law, above criticism and above everyone else conceived and written by Jews.
Used to violate 1a so the Jews can continue their holocaust in Gaza without interruption.
What are they, the chosen people in the US?
A law which violates the 1A would be declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
It should be. First they have to address it.
Look how long it took the Supreme Court to overturn their error regarding Roe vs wade.
Bible says nothing of the sort.
Pilate was no Jew.
Retarded 15 year old cunt.
Also, REFUTED!
Holocaust in Gaza? Bible is illegal? Are you typing under influence? TUI should be a serious offense, especially when the facts get mixed. Those protesters should be under double secret probation, for their own good. There is no genocide in Gaza. The number of civilian casualties is extremely low for fighting within an urban area of 2 million people. The numbers published by Gaza Ministry of Health (Hamas) show 32K people, no fighters. Everybody was a civilian, despite the vast majority of the casualties are men of the fighting age. If that was a genocide, the number of dead would be far greater, with much larger percentage of women. IDF is killing terrorists who were massacring youth on a music festival. Of course, there are some civilian casualties, some of them shot by Hamas when they were evacuating the northern Gaza and then reported to UN as "civilian casualties killed by IDF". Hamas was in schools and hospitals, using Arab populations as a shield. BTW, that is a war krime, just like murdering innocent civilians attending a music festival. You buddy are a marxist and an idiot. Those two should be synonymous.
Marx was a Jew.
Israel is on trial in the UN International Court of Justice for committing genocide in Gaza.
Genocide
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The Genocide Convention establishes in Article I that the crime of genocide may take place in the context of an armed conflict, international or non-international, but also in the context of a peaceful situation.
Netanyahu is responsible for telling the IDF to commit genocide by referencing the Jewish biblical “god approved” genocide of women and children with the story of AMALEK. Clearly inciting genocide. With over 24,000 non combatant women and children intentionally targeted and killed and IDF soldiers on record rejoicing about it referencing Amalek, the effect of Netanyahus instructions are clear.
Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was fighting “human animals” and that they will be “starved of food and water” which Israel has done and continues to do.
Amichay Eliyahu, the minister for heritage, suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza. Israel isn’t supposed to have nuclear weapons. Saddam Hussein was hung for crimes against humanity and he didn’t even have WMD much less threaten to use them.
The country’s mainly ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, who described Palestinians as “an entire nation out there that is responsible” demonstrates the genocidal intention.
These statements in combination with their actual execution clearly meets the UN definition and criteria for genocide aka holocaust.
ALL nations signatory to the UN genocide convention HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OPPOSE IT. Not deny it and send bombs money and troops to support it.
October 7 was an inside job.
The following video is the best compilation of evidence to date that proves October 7 was an inside job coordinated by Israel as an excuse to commit genocide in Gaza.
https://richardgage911.substack.com/p/new-documentary-on-gaza-october-7
The video proves that Israel, funded, coordinated and enabled the October 7 attacks.
It shows that Israel opened the gate to welcome trucks carrying Hamas through the wall.
It shows how Israel not only ignored repeated warnings from their many surveillance sources but withdrew all defences from the wall and emptied their military bases just hours before the attack and had ZERO response for more than 6 hours.
It shows and proves that the IDF attacked the concert goers and the kibbutz’s with Apache helicopters and tanks.
It shows that they sacrificed dozens of their IDF forces to blame Hamas.
It shows that only handfuls of Hamas soldiers wandered for hours through the evacuated areas looking for soldiers to fight but finding none.
It shows that the hostages that were taken by Hamas said they were treated well.
It shows that Israel has funded Hamas with billions in cash in suitcases in the backs of cars
Marx was also an anti-Semite who talked about Jews in a similar way to you. Weird, huh?
https://youtu.be/rZh01xRO_Qg?feature=shared
Truthfully? Nobody here has ever refuted anything that I’ve said.
Marx is your obsession.
Dude, you’re the black knight in Monty pythons holy grail. If you just keep repeating that shit it might seem true when everyone walks past and leaves you alone with your bloody stumps.
If you want to prove that you aren’t the lying waste of skin that I know you are simply describe specifically how anyone has refuted anything that I’ve said and post a link to it.
I know you won’t, because you can’t. Nobody can. Now fuck off in shame with your Kol Nidre boy brethren.
Not that it was the highlight of my life, but I refuted something you said. But you just plugged your ears and carried on. (Though I've not seen you post the same thing since...)
That halfwit attempt at excuse doesn’t explain why you can’t describe and post a link to it.
That you’re a lying waste of skin does.
There is no genocide in Gaza.
Sadly, this is accurate. :'(
“ A group of AIPAC-funded Republican Senators sent a letter to the International Criminal Court’s chief prosecutor threatening him with retribution if he dares to issue arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials…
“Target Israel and we will target you,” the senators tell Khan, adding that they will “sanction your employees and associates, and bar you and your families from the United States.””
The tail wags the dog.
https://zeteo.com/p/exclusive-you-have-been-warned-republican
+1 Yes. It's a taxpayer funded education institution, not a political bargaining chip to be forfeited and contested.
Wrong.
University funding comes from student's tuition who are paying for the right to be there and exercise free speech.
As well as private corporations and individuals who use the university’s resources to further their own interests.
This includes any government research grants, like defence spending to develop weapons that support genocide.
Pop-Up Video Factoid just for you: The designers and builders of your buddies' concentration camps all had PhDs.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
She'd change her tune if she understood that Islamofascists like Hamas don't believe in chi-chi toney bars where her biggest problem is gettiing her Goddamn drink wuthout getting carded.
They're terrorist supporters beat them down like a rug.
we need to stop giving these protesters what they want..... attention.... especially where we let they drive the narrative that the universities are being heavy handed after the protesters violate their property rights.
let them protest. and when they cross the lines let them face the consequences. and let us otherwise ignore their lame ass LARPing.
That is all fine except for where the protesters are preventing students from their use of the facilities. At that point the university has a responsibility to act, regardless of the attention it gets the protesters. The issue is that the punishment is non-existent. The crimes they commit are not prosecuted, as we know which way the political winds blow.
And they have crossed the line.
yup. cross the line, face the consequences........ don't get to play the victim.
we need to stop giving these protesters what they want….. attention….
No, not nipping this shit in the bud is what encourages them to act out. Especially when they're camping out on a college campus like a bunch of homeless bums.
If you think the left-wing media, who wants not just spotlights on these left-wing larpers but also jazz hands and trumpets, are going to follow your suggestion, I have a bridge.....
Yes.
The answer to your question Emma is "Yes."
Now we need to return DC to Virginia so they can do the same to GWU.
Let them camp. Just make sure to water the lawn EVERY NIGHT.
Also have the local ROTC play reveille at 0300 and then dump wheelbarrows filled with Nutriloaf at the entrances to the encampment.
... and then nothing happened. long live the Bourgeois Revolution lol
I don't know, Emma. Were they protesting the difficulty of getting their FAFSA entitlement?
Lol
"The number of police alone was staggering—a mixture of state, county, city, and university police departments, many in full riot gear and several sporting large rifles."
This is called shock and awe. In the long run, it reduces the violence when the lawbreakers are removed or arrested.
The Va state police have been dong this since the sixties that I know of.
Needs more unmarked vans.
What would a Venn diagram of pro-Palestine student protesters, climate justice protesters, and BLM protesters look like? I’m guessing a nearly perfect circle.
You forgot gender affirming care protesters and SCOTUS ruling protesters. They'd also fit in the perfect circle.
Is that perfect circle the one drawn around those paid by some Soros-funded organization to plan and foment these things?
Because none of these are about the thing they're about. They're just about delegitimizing US institutions, and making people in America feel divided. Nothing more, and nothing less.
From what has been shown on TV, I'm pretty sure 30-40 unarmed adult men could clean one of the "free-speech zones" out.
Then all of the stories would be about "alt-right violence at peaceful protests".
This is precisely what is called for. With an overwhelming number of police etc, the protestors are less likely to initiate violence and fewer people get hurt. And if they do initiate violence they will be thrashed, as they should be.
Too bad the BLM riots were not met in the same way.
several sporting large rifles
Flattery will get you nowhere.
It is fascinating that Emma Camp objects to the "proportionality" of the law enforcement response with the same sort of logic as the protesters object to the proportionality of Isael's response to the Hamas 10/07 attacks.
In both cases, the response in is trying to be effective in preventing further disturbance of people trying to go about their lives. They are not trying to balance the sides for fairness as if it is some kind of game.
And if she's all worried and fretsome about proportionality, how many "protesters" were they, and what were they responding to that involved the university?
Or in shorter words for dear Emma, WTF does Gaza have to do with a US university?
It's the Current Thing(tm).
I'm sure, if I looked closely enough, I'd see a few "I support what's trendy" T-shirts there.
Yes. At the very simplest level, if you don't have property rights, then you really don't have a functioning society, you have mob rule.
Exactly why open borders are antithetical to libertarianism.
I'm not seeing how allowing people to move to a different country violates anyone's property rights. Does open borders mean that immigrants could come in and move onto your private property without you having any recourse?
I don't support open borders. But that doesn't mean I want closed borders either. Just on pure demographics, we will need immigration to counter the low fertility rate the native population has right now. Otherwise, there won't be enough young workers to support the increasing elderly population. The question is how to manage it in an constructive way.
"Open borders" has become like "socialism" to those on the right. It means anything other than their preferred policies.
It's just another aspect of "populism for populism's sake".
"Just on pure demographics, we will need immigration to counter the low fertility rate the native population has right now."
We could also do away with the lame "overpopulation" idiocy and make policy to encourage higher fertility rates.
Do you know why there are low fertility rates among Americans born here? You definitely need to in order to craft policies that would encourage and increase.
Here's one hint:
Decades of wealth transfer from young to old makes it difficult to plan for children. I see reports that 50% of those born in 1980 make less, adjusted for inflation, than their parents did at the same age. This is the first time that has been true for as long as data exists. (It was 92% for those born in 1940, and about 60% for those born in 1960.)
Colleges and universities brag about how low their acceptance rates are. Ivy league schools have not expanded the size of their freshman classes significantly in my lifetime, yet their endowments keep growing and growing along with their tuition. College education is not remotely market-driven. Top private colleges and universities keep the supply of seats low in order to drive up the price rather than expanding their offerings to meet demand. Those increases in costs work their way into all colleges and universities, both public and private.
(Forgiving student loan debt is not the answer, of course. That gives a lot of money to young people that don't need it. If you really want to lower college costs, then you push them to increase their enrollment and acceptance rates. Those multi-billion dollar endowments? Why sit on that much money? They have become tax-free investment funds. Someone must be making money off of them, or they'd actually be spending it on education.)
Then, of course, there is housing. Nuff said there.
It simply isn't a good time to be a young adult. Whatever good things have come to them from the economy is getting swallowed up by increased housing costs, college costs, and health care costs. With the older generations being the ones that got all of those goods when prices were lower. Well, other than the health care costs, where now they have Medicare to take care of them that is paid for by the young.
So they were fine with ordinary calm protesting, but they broke it up when it got in tents?
Lizzie's wig got warm.
Tents violated campus policy and were counter to promises made
Hint: You are a bit too intense and need to relax a bit, look for the humor, giggle, and get on with life.
Yeah, I’m the intense one.
Well, at least the humorless oblivious one.
Are you trying to say Brix was telling a funny?
Talk about oblivious
Are you saying I’m oblivious? Let me see:
not aware of or not concerned about what is happening around one.
oh yeah. Guilty.
I was just trying to joke around with you on “poor thing” posts by the way. I’ve got no issue with you.
No problems
They wanted to snip escalation in the bud. It's better to shut it down at tents than wait until it becomes an armed fortress with a body count like the CHAZ
I’m sorry. The whole premise of hiring Emma Camp to disparage property rights for a supposed libertarian rag just blows my mind. First she whines in one article after another about the poor mistreated college parasites who can’t get hold of my taxpayer dollars as fast as they want. Then she whines that a university should not evict trespassers who somehow think camping on university grounds has anything to do with Hamas butchers bragging about how many Jews they raped and murdered with their bare hands.
Is this some kind of Ground Hog Day which takes place on April 1st?
Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to sound plausible. So Dear Sweet Emma Camp must really be a libertarian writer for Reason. But it is really hard to believe.
don't drive angry!
What's that mean? Should I quit playing golf?
Worst. Movie. Ever.
lolz ^^^
Tbf, most of the money that is provided in aid never exists at all. It isn't reimbursed by the government. It's just subtracted from tuition.
Grants are only provided to actual poor people. And women and minorities to a much lesser extent.
Maximum loans are provided/suggested/included to everybody regardless of need or ability to repay.
Every school sets up the student's aid package to take every available loan dollar. Theoretically this is paid back with interest, unless the student is going to work for the govt or an NGO. The aid package is also designed to take every dollar that the parents can possibly afford regardless of the student's academic ability.
Republicans shouldn't be too offended, not much has changed. I have a feeling if you looked into how much was forgiven in a normal year, Biden bribes wouldn't really move the needle much. And where it moves it, it would be with students that dropped out and somehow still have a large balance after many years. That is, people that are probably on welfare anyways.
Never exists? You must be one of them magical money tricksters.
Go away.
Tuition alone is 40x what it was 40 years ago. Inflation doesn't account for more than about 8x. The rest is BS studies and DEI crap.
I don't know about since the late 20teens, but from the 70s to the 20teens tuition and other costs (books, fees, etc) went up at roughly triple inflation.
The university-industrial complex is just a fucking gold mine for certain people.
Here's a link.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/rising-cost-of-college-in-u-s/
their numbers 1980 to today show CPI changed 231%, while college tuition and fees changed 1200%.
China, controllers of TikTok, report a denunciation of US campus crackdowns across the country and report a running total of the amount of arrests made thus far.
I wonder what their algorithms are suggesting...
Meanwhile, americans seem to try blame Columbia's protests on some 40yo millionaire with rich parents that got arrested. dailymail runs multiple articles about the "professional" protestors. And "Who is really behind" the protests.
The right is still goaded into calling everything antisemitism. Guaranteeing the left has the upper hand in every debate, even trying to pass hate speech laws. The left aren't Jew haters, they're retardedly obsessed with rooting for the underdog and against America.
For the record, I support the Israeli destruction of hamas. Thanks.
Some people would probably be better off just posting the links, rather than trying to paraphrase...
UVA and other universities have tolerated the protests up until now because commencement is coming up and they don’t want to piss off the well heeled donors with this bs.
Even if the university was within its rights to break up the encampment, it was hard not to think about how disproportionate it looked.
This is how you quell a group with minimal actual violence. If you start letting people think "There's roughly an equal number of them and us, so maybe we can take these guys," then the likelihood of violence increases.
This...
It was wise for the police to show up with a heavy show of force, especially in light of USC, UCLA and Columbia. Shows of force significantly reduce the chance of violence and anyone getting hurt. But, there is more to be said.
The standard practice for legit civil disobedience is for the protestors and police to meet in advance to choreography to disobedience and the arrests. The arrests are often very important to the protestors as they establish civil disobedience. At USC, the removal of its encampment was Choreography. I personally heard the LAPD explain to news media what had been worked out between USC administration, these protestors and the police. The LAPD used the term protest “theater” in which the police played a role
There were to be 3 phrases, or “warnings.”
(1) After warning number one, each side would make preparations but not one was expected to leave
(2) After warning number two, the police would make certain they were organized and prepared and the protestors make certain protestor know the script. They wrote the bail bond phone number of the arms of the protestors who wanted to be arrested.
(3) After warning number three, the removal was soon start. Thus, anyone who did not want to be arrested or needed to avoid the hours and hours of processing should leave.
Then the police and protestors would follow this procedure:
(A) Campus Security (not LAPD) would stand a way back from the protestors who were linked arm and arm, and call for the first person to be arrested.
(B) When the person raised his arm, he/she was called forward and Campus Security would make the official arrest. Then arrestee would be escorted to the police who were stationed in some parking lot.
(C) The persons would have initial processing, loaded on to a bus, and eventually transported to a police station for booking and release.
The news coverage which I saw that evening was some of the most misleading crap I’ve ever seen. The stations took really really close face shots which made it look a horrible confrontation. I had seen nothing of the sort, but I imagine some protestors and cops had angry words. The news used words like “chaos.” Of course, this false reporting incited people the world over. The choreography for the civil disobedience theater had looked close to perfection when I saw it as it was occurring, but the nightly TV news made it out to be a melee.
Seeing may be believing, but news reporting should not be confused with seeing. Had the networks and local news accurately reported how USC had its encampment peacefully removed, I think there would have been a lot less violence on other campuses. Not only would the false reporting not exist, but the calm way that mutual cooperation works for civil disobedience could have become a prototype for other colleges.
Media motto: If it bleeds, it leads, and if it is not bleeding, then stab it until it gushes blood.
Interesting, if true.
(1) After warning number one, each side would make preparations but not one was expected to leave
(2) After warning number two, the police would make certain they were organized and prepared and the protestors make certain protestor know the script. They wrote the bail bond phone number of the arms of the protestors who wanted to be arrested.
(3) After warning number three, the removal was soon start. Thus, anyone who did not want to be arrested or needed to avoid the hours and hours of processing should leave.
Sounds kinda genocidal to me.
There are grey areas about post 10/7.
How hard should Israel respond?
How entagled should the US be in Israel’s respoonse?
You know what’s not a grey area? Dealing with these dolts.
Emma, you are overthinking removing the “intellectual” decendants of OWS. There’s not one libertarian issue at stake, and removing them is no more a complicated policy issue than removing a drunk at McDonalds, cursing at customers and urinating on the tables. Perhaps think on the complicated issues, like the ones above?
They could have gone 1960s or Tiennamen on them, but they didn't. I guess that is s good thing that they didn't?
Won't you please come to Chicago.
It's gonna be rich.
The answer Emma is "Yes", both to the question you posed and to me asking myself "Am I glad I cancelled my Reason subscription?"
Sorry, Emma, but we are well past the let's-make-excuses phase. By now, the consequences are clear and those who want to signal their activism by risking arrest should be happy to get arrested.
The college had a legal right to break up the pro-Palestine encampment. But does that mean it should?
I'm not reading the article because, meh, but that statement alone? Yeah... the fuck does that even mean?
Libertarianism - Plotting to take over the world and
leave you alonejudge you for how you exercise the rights you've got (left).Did the State Police bring a big Mayflower moving van to take those they arrested downtown, the way they did in a similar scenario in May 1970? And did they make sure to arrest people in evening clothes going to the Restoration Ball? And a guy delivering Lupo's pizza to Carr's Hill?
Two things:
Being charitable and assuming the UVA occupation would not have turned ugly like all the other, those organizing it were sure as fuck tone deaf to what is happening everywhere else - so, yeah, expect to be routed
Seeing as it is now documented that a bulk of the "protesters" are not students but adults paid to train students to do this - and paid by a collection of organizations, I think the "anti-semitism" bill should be withdrawn and replaced with a bill that explicitly demands seizure of assets and jail time for anyone, person or organization, that funds or otherwise encourages citizens to become terrorists - and training people to shout "I am Hamas", "Death to America" and to harass other people fits that bill.
How quickly such a law would be used to de-bank and bankrupt anyone who wandered near the Capitol on Jan. 6, or future Jan. 6ths.
It's annoying and amusing that the same little anti-American seditionists that post their love letters to Trump on here and cheered the rioters on Jan 6 who wanted to hang the Vice President now want to terminate with extreme prejudice, i.e. murder, kids protesting Israel's one-sided destruction of Gaza. The little anti-American seditionists need to leave America and go where their attitude fits. I suggest North Korea or Russia.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Sounds like Archie Bunker. What a loser.
Dude you need medication.
One amusing fact I learned about the J6 crowd is their loyalty to Mike Pence. Apparently, threats to hang Mike Pence is tantamount to sedition, whereas the Hamas Youth chanting for the death of Jews and America, holding mock trial which sentence school admin to a beheading, and even threatening to kill off city council is…. Weaponizing antisemitism?
Most traitors who tried to sell out their nation are leftists.
You mean people fighting for one side still take their own side?
SHOCKING.
YEAH! That and Franklin's and Truman's one-sided destruction of the Nipponese Empire after that mostly peaceful protest in Hawaii, Wake, Midway, Aleutians, Philippines, Marianas...
The tent encampment had formed less than 24 hours prior.
Early detection and treatment is the best way to beat cancer.
The number of students actually in the encampment was dwarfed by the crowd that gathered to watch the standoff
Which should tell you something about the media reporting on the subject. It's a gross distortion between the number of people who are there to support genocidal terrorists, and the number of normal people who are there to call them out for it.
But somehow, we rarely get reporting on the latter.
I thought this was nice:
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1786130045783703822
ECLIPSED.
However much support these wannabe-jihadi's (who's rebellion they demand be catered) think they have, it's not nearly as much as those who are ready to put them on a plane and send them straight to the place they're defending.
The half-million dollar kegger should be proof enough of that.
The counterprotestors need some catchy chants.
Ho Ho! :clap clap:
Hey Hey! :clap clap:
You kids just earned an 'F' today!
(repeat ad infinitum)
...
If you come here to spread hate, you will never graduate!
(samesies)
Disproportionate is the way to get things done. Forgetting that is why we have resorted to losing wars in the last few decades.
Calling it a 'Protest Crackdown' in the headline is disingenuous. UVA wasn't opposed to the protest, it was opposed to people violating the preexisting rules regarding camping, sleeping and structures on campus. Those foolish children thought they could ignore the law because they were protesting, but that's not how it works.
As then future president Reagan said a long time ago:
"All of it began the first time some of you who know better, and are old enough to know better, let young people think that they have the right to choose the laws they would obey as long as they were doing it in the name of social protest."
Ronnie copied that line from Herbert Hoover (R, Q), who ALSO handed the nation a prohibition-related Crash and Depression from 1929 to well past 1933. Tricky Nignew was Quaker too, and crashed the economy with his own fanatical uptick in shoot-first prohibitionism. Bert Hoover (https://bit.ly/3fSacLM)
I must have slept through it, but when did the constitutional rights of free speech and free assembly mutate into the right to pitch a tent on others' property?
The flash crowd of Islamic berserker fanboys at my alma master in Texas is about what you'd expect--albeit in Waco, not Austin. But news of such a thing, excuse me, thang in Virginia defies phlogiston. I'd've expected the college grounds to be crackling with Trinitite ten minutes into the meccanical carpet-biting. Then again, Ignorance Is Strength may have meant: "ignore them and they'll go away."