Seriousness Crisis
Plus: NatalCon, Cuban economics, AI priest defrocked, and more...

Democrats scrutinize Columbia: A crew of House Democrats—21 in total—just sent a letter to Columbia's board of trustees telling them it's time to "act decisively" and that they're disappointed that "Columbia University has not yet disbanded the unauthorized and impermissible encampment of anti-Israel, anti-Jewish activists on campus….
"If any Trustees are unwilling to do this, they should resign so that they can be replaced by individuals who will uphold the University's legal obligations under Title VI," the legislators wrote. (Title VI "prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, and national origin in programs and activities receiving federal financial assistance.")
Democrats had not yet exerted much public pressure on universities to shut down their tent-city pro-Palestine encampments; that has mostly been a Republican project. And since Columbia is a private university, administrators ostensibly ought to be able to make the decisions they deem best without interference from government officials. Besides, legislators should probably be more concerned with the war in Gaza, and the American role in it, than with the Coachella Lites we're seeing on college campuses.
But one theme made apparent by the Columbia encampment, and by Harvard's Claudine Gay scandal before it, is that university administrators are finally receiving scrutiny they've long deserved; there's a palpable sense that many of them are useless at actually enforcing rules, that they allow so-called "microaggressions" and bullying when such tactics are in service of left-wing student causes, and that these students are simply not busy enough nor learning very much.
It looks like an American seriousness crisis in slow motion. If our elite schools aren't producing industrious people with critical thinking skills, what good are they exactly?
Scenes from New York: Thinking you're on "the right side of history"—as Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) says about the Columbia protesters—seems to justify a lot of bad behavior, and stifle self-reflection.
"I never thought… [the] movement would be this enormous."
Congresswoman @Ilhan visited the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University and said students are on "the right side of history." pic.twitter.com/6BTguAPzxk
— AJ+ (@ajplus) April 29, 2024
QUICK HITS
- Inside NatalCon, which just took place in Austin, Texas.
- What the battles over warrantless government surveillance powers—a.k.a. Section 702—say about today's fractured GOP.
- "You have to be a millionaire to live in Cuba today," fruit and vegetable seller Yoandris Hierrezuelo (who earns $5 a day peddling her wares in Havana) told The New York Times. "The state can no longer meet the basic needs of the population."
- Tesla clears some of China's hurdles, gets closer to being able to operate there.
- "The Catholic advocacy group Catholic Answers released an AI priest called 'Father Justin' earlier this week—but quickly defrocked the chatbot after it repeatedly claimed it was a real member of the clergy," reports Futurism.
- Bloomberg interviewed one of the first space travel agents.
- "Today's kids roam less than in earlier generations. Overscheduling and parents' safety fears are part of the reason, but it's also true that American suburbs built in the past 30 years are less walkable and bikeable than older neighborhoods. Walkability is seen mainly as a concern for urbanites, who want to be able to stroll to a cocktail bar, grocery store or museum," writes Tim Carney in The Wall Street Journal. "But walkability in suburban neighborhoods is a far more important issue. It requires building sidewalks, bike trails, playgrounds and crosswalks that are safely usable by kids."
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Democrats scrutinize Columbia...
Uh-oh.
CRIPPLE FIGHT!
Before we get started, let's agree. Is the loser the winner?
Everyone is a loser!
OK, then. Juice and cookies and trophies for everyone.
Cookies? Really? Are you trying to give us diabetes? How about orange slices or carrot or celery sticks?
If you want kids to throw the snack in the trash, OK.
All of the pro hamas protesters should be treated how hamas would treat them.
All the women are expelled because they can't go
All the gays will be thrown off of the roof of a building
All those that don't convert to Islam get beheaded
Yes. I bet these earnest young idiots are also into "authenticity".
We have devolved into a deeper level of shit than I thought imaginable. This is equivalent to our allied countries having their universities shut down after 9/11 because there was too much Al-Quaeda support to contain. I think the agitators and losers have finally pushed things so far that we will see a big pushback at election time.
If the R's can't overcome the level of fortification in November, we're in deep, deep shit. Between the migrants, the unpunished crime, and the pro-Hamas bullshit, we're in a very bad place.
Hey, requiring womyn to cover their hair in public is a reasonable accommodation.
In 2000 the un said their goal was to destroy america
I don't know how close they are, but their progress is very visible.
I see a future with a glut of scientists, engineers, electricians, plumbers, and carpenters, with Humanities pursued only by Internet content makers or as a hobby.
Or a little of both, where the typical graduate does welding and pipe-fitting by trade and runs a Philosophy Shoppe at the flea market on Weekends, as competition for Jay Leno's.
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Jay Leno's First Appearance|Johnny Carson's Tonight Show
https://youtu.be/qvmQZ1jQjQk?si=1WdiQUCWAS-qqy1D
On Germany immigration/energy 2024:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/protesters-call-for-islamic-state-in-germany-caliphate-is-the-solution/ar-AA1nSaa2
Also, Germanys climate activists have destroyed the economy and pushed people into steeling wood piles and poaching trees.
On the U.S. 2024 Climate Tyranny: The association of apartment owners and developers is suing the (very libertarian) Governor of Colorado for energy use mandates. Counties are suing him for sanctuary state policies.
Mandates and bans are the new taxes, fees and rationing.
Very libertarian of you
He would say "libritarian," and does so repeatedly, even when others such as myself repeatedly point to his inability to turn off Autofill and AutoCorrect, so consider the source.
A crew of House Democrats—21 in total—just sent a letter to Columbia's board of trustees telling them it's time to "act decisively"...
Many can't definitely say what constitutes a woman so I'm not sure decisive is in the cards for academia.
Do you think they misspelled "divisive"?
Thinking you're on "the right side of history"—as Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) says about the Columbia protesters—seems to justify a lot of bad behavior, and stifle self-reflection.
It would seem some Democrats think that 'acting decisively' means exterminating the Jews as quickly as possible.
Oh, Minnesota. You've gone full retard.
Not Minnesota, the Twin Cities.
The 702 debate showed that there is no dnc VS gop. It's uniparty VS america
The ones complaining about 702 are just pushing a culture war or something.
Looks like the people that voted against it are most of the racist republicans so let’s just move on.
If our elite schools aren't producing industrious people with critical thinking skills, what good are they exactly?
Refilling our aging DC autocrat class?
Pouring coffee at Starbucks?
Facilitating a Marxist revolution?
Being the first in line to get bitch slapped when the moment finally comes?
Coming in eight minutes late and a little light.
You noticed that, too, huh?
I don't see you two doing a lot of heavy lifting here. It takes a village to raise a Roundup.
And it's Monday. Don't you guys get the new paradigm about the overwhelming stress imposed by the work week? Monday is now officially "go slow, ease in, and keep your personal demons at bay".
Quiet quitting.
Drink some coffee, put in a lip of Copenhagen, and start putting out all the fires that arose from the field over the weekend. This column splice is fucked, this proposal was rejected and needs amended, the contractor can't find the grout you speced and wants to use a substitute, etc. Every fuckn Monday morning.
That fucking grout issue was from Friday and cocksucker didn't get the right shit till this morning.
Quit bringing your troglodyte physical world complaints into the rarified virtual modern reality.
Contractor sent an RFI at 8pm Friday evening and is now complaining at 6am Monday morning that it's been in my hands for '4 days'.
Also, he can find the grout I speced. It's standard. He's lying because he has leftover grout from the last job he did and wants to use that instead to save money.
Every time.
Told you to go with Jose and his cousin Jesus.
“…..put in a lip of Copenhagen,……”
Man, I hope you’re not eating cheesy poofs too, or you’ll go bankrupt.
It's kind of hard to complain with the Copenhagen in the lip, especially as it gives cancer to everything it touches, from lips on down the digestive tract to the rectum, then spreads to the lymph nodes and gets everything else. Stop that rot, then you can take care of everything else.
I'm not being paid to deliver content here.
She didn't give us much to work with AND she took off Friday.
My old, favorite shirt was one I got in 2002, shortly after the Clinton admin, when Hillary coined the phrase, "It takes a village to raise a child. The t-shirt had a Viking ship on it with the words, "It takes a Viking to raze a village."
The right side of history statement is bs Marxism.
Friendly reminder, Illian Omar should be deported back to Somalia where she will be killed by the people there
During a speech somebody called Omar a mother fucker.
Omar corrected him and said thats wrong I only fucked my brother
If she was fucking him that would have legitimized their immigration fraud.
Small blessings I guess.
Friendly reminder, Illian Omar should be deported back to Somalia where she will be killed by the people there
Yeah, I'm always struck by how eager people on the left are to call her a "Somali refugee" when mostly when we talk about "Somali refugees" we mean the people who were fleeing from her family. Her family only came here after the genocidal government was overthrown and they had to leave or else.
Her family only came here after the genocidal government was overthrown and they had to leave or else.
So, technically they were seeking refuge (from justice)?
Congresswoman @Ilhan visited the Gaza Solidarity Encampment at Columbia University and said students are on "the right side of history."
I wouldn't bank on the Islamists being the final history writers.
Expecially because the chicks are illteraye
*Assumes Popeye voice*
Eh, sounds like yer a little “illteraye” yerself-ka! *Arf!Arf!Arf!Arf!*
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Especially considering Omar and other westernized Muslims basically indulge in Buffet Islam, picking out that parts that will subvert the west while ignoring those practiced by the true believers.
The Taliban and Iranian mullahs might be fanatics, but I can at least respect the fact they take Islam to its logical conclusion.
I don't recall them offering Israel the 'pay a tax' option - - - - - - - -
But, but, but, Islam is the bestest religion of peace, and women's rights, and LGBTQ rights, and all the cool progressive values! The caliphate is going to be like a never-ending Coachella!
The logical conclusion of Islam is ISIS - the authority of a caliphate is granted by being able to claim power over a certain amount of real estate. Omar wants to star in what is sure to be a horrible reality show, The Real Warlords of Minnesota's 5th.
They did get involved in a music festival last October.
Islam is a religion of peace.
And Brutus is an honorable man.
There is no “Buffet Islam” analogous to “Cafeteria Christianity”. There is only Couscous and Tabbuleh Sunni Islam and Pistachio and Pomegranate Shia Islam.
(This Atheist is a great cook and makes his own damn meals.)
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The “True Believers” as you call them, all want subversion of the U.S., the West, and the rest of Planet Earth.
And the only “logical conclusion” of Islam is the illogic and unreason of submission to Allah and his Vicergicent on Earth. And the only “respect” Islamofascists deserve is maybe a cigarette at their execution.
Ilan Omar is not a deviation, but the norm.
Makes his own meals... How impressive. I've only been doing that since I was eight.
Tenderloin pork? Lasagna? Banana Nut bread? Air-fried sweet potato fries?
And any particular reason you focus your ire on my culinary arts and not Islam? Low-hanging fruit? Could confronting the horrors of Islam lead to confronting others preceding and adjacent to it?
No, just that your a self indulgent bore. The fact that you felt it necessary to brag about a mundane tasks such as cooking is new. Your need to prosetylsize your atheism is not new. It's worn out trope by this point.
To be such a bore, I'm sure getting you excited.
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And cooking would be one of the many mundane but wonderful things people would talk about if Religious tyranny and bloodshed weren't a scar on the Planet.
I'll remember that when we next discuss Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.
Yeah, in past tense. We could discuss food even more when man is also free of Totalitarian tyranny. And remember we couldn't make other men into Gods without having first had a concept of God in the first place.
Meanwhile, take your SuperBeets™ borscht-in-a-pill, something Stalin could never have even conceived of, much less produced or possessed in abundance, nor could Putin today.
I doubt you excite anyone, probably even need to take your Viagra to jerk off, you're so unexciting. Pretty mundane. I give you shit because you're a pathetic mundane, self indulgent bigot.
"The human mind is a wonderful thing. It can think anything it wants to think."--Robert A. Heinlein.
And what religious tyranny exists in the western world? The scar on this world is largely due to folks like you, who can't stand others not believing the same thing that you do.
Islamofascism is eating up elite institutions of academia in the U.S. and evidently all you can do between prayers is poo-poo somebody's culinary habits.
And none of those dishes you just listed are all that difficult to make. If you're impressed you can make those dishes, that says more about your cooking skills, or more accurately lack thereof, than anything else. Air fried sweet potato fries. Oh so tough, cut up a sweet potato into fries and put it in the air fryer. So tough. Besides sweet potato fries are an abomination.
Check out the potato racist over here...
So what if I yam ?
#orangepotatobad
Besides sweet potato fries are an abomination.
Whew. I'm not the only one who HATES sweet potato fries. Another "should have never been invented" food. Cauliflower rice is in the same catagory.
"HATES sweet potato fries.... Cauliflower rice"
Well now, looks like me and Idaho-Bob are going to have to come to blows (Not the face though).
Sweet potato fries dipped in chipotle mayo and riced cauliflower and cheese are ambrosia.
chipotle mayo
Damn dude. You could've said siracha mayo, but no, you had to go chipotle. SMH.
Remember, you are talking to a guy who probably eats poutine. Nuff said.
I... I... do like poutine... with a little vinegar...
Malt vinegar?
Note the Brits are onto something, fish and chips are better with malt vinegar.
Tell me you're from Idaho without tell... Oops, never mind.
(I don't recall seeing anything about sweet potatoes at the Potato Museum in Blackfoot. Point taken.)
We're from the part of Idaho that makes it an assault state, you know the little thing that goes up.
Well, I am an Idahoan originally. Don't get me started on apples or Walla Walla Sweet Onions, either. I remember getting fresh red delicious apples that weighed a pound a piece, so sweet and juicy growing up. Can't find anything like that except in the PNW.
Okay, just so everyone is clear, Walla Walla Sweet Onions are the king of onions.
It is always amazing to see AWFL supporting stuff for people who loathe them.
They'd be really, REALLY pissy if they got their way.
Feminism is marxism with tits.
Depends on whether anyone actually nuts up and fights back.
A crew of House Democrats—21 in total—just sent a letter to Columbia's board of trustees
"It's an election year, stop making us look terrible. You can resume your temper tantrum the 6th of November."
11/6 is awfully close to 1/6. Are you trying to trigger people?
How many Pearl Harbors can we handle in one decade?
And if you rotate that 11/6 180 degrees... you get another 9/11!
OMG, Paul is dead!
No, he's the walrus; the manatees are dead.
The bees are all dead. Crop failures are imminent. Biden has a 5 year plan to save us.
Nature: Uptrend in global managed honey bee colonies and production based on a six-decade viewpoint, 1961–2017
Headlines of honey bee colony losses have given an impression of large-scale global decline of the bee population that endangers beekeeping1,2 and that the world is on the verge of mass starvation. However, the stories are usually based on research reports limited to one or few countries with observations over a relatively short period of time3. A large proportion of cited scientific literature on honey bee mortality originates from Europe and North America1,4, creating some sort of publication bias. Further, the research reports are focused on managed honey bees, Apis mellifera in particular, with little or no information on non-managed bees5. Hence, extrapolation of findings from these reports to the global bee population is somewhat inaccurate.
Overview statistics
At the global level, all the study variables increased between 1961 and 2017 (Table 1). The number of managed honey bee colonies nearly doubled, honey production almost tripled and beeswax production more than doubled. Concurrently, the 2017 human population was more than twice what it was in 1961. The yield of honey per colony increased by about half over the same period. At the regional level, changes in the study variables ranged from declining to increasing by almost eight-fold (Fig. 1). The number of colonies increased in Asia, South America, Africa and Oceania but declined in North America and Europe. Honey production increased in all regions, remarkably so in Asia and South America. Beeswax production increased in all regions except North America where it declined. The highest increase was in Asia followed by South America and Africa. Europe had the highest improvements in yields of honey per colony followed by Asia and Africa. In contrast, the yields declined marginally in Oceania.
“……the 2017 human population was more than twice what it was in 1961.”
Don’t tell the open borders crowd. They think it’s still 1885.
Yes, the story about the bees was always a lie. So was the story about polar bears. What else might the climate scientists be lying about? Tree rings, ice cores and hockey sticks? The better question is - are they capable of telling the truth?
Hint: the answer is no.
Should we get into the Roundup lawsuit, where the judge blocked Monsanto from introducing research that showed glyphosate was safe?
Not to mention that every honey bee in North America is invasive, which, as I have been told by nature lovers 1000 times, is an evil oppression of nature.
"It's an election year, do you not want our votes?"
"Shit, ok what we'll do is a little half measure, that appeases no one but hopefully doesn't alienate voters."
Exactly how long is the memory of the American voter? I want to mark my calendar with the date when stupid things matter.
Inside NatalCon...
Sausagefest.
I bet they had a lot of bacon too
The Far Right’s Campaign to Explode the Population
Behind the scenes at the first Natal Conference, where a motley alliance is throwing out the idea of winning converts to their cause and trying to make their own instead.
They seem to forget that there's this little thing called Volition, which means that kids once grown-up don't have to follow in the footsteps of their parents...And in the case of this crowd of nutburgers and flakes, Volition is the real hope for the Human Species.
Witness brother, witness!!!!
And don't give us that volition bullshit, if you had your way we all know what would happen to theists.
Nothing happens to Theists if I "have my way" except their worldview is questioned.
And the children of Theists worldwide are also doing this, punctuating my point about Natalism all the more.
"The state can no longer meet the basic needs of the population."
Yeah, that seems like it probably isn't a new development.
JUST STATE HARDER!!!
Has anyone ever really Stated hard enough?
North Korea is damn close.
They still starve to death there. I guess they just need to make that last little push.
Pol Pot has to be the ultimate in terms of percentage of Kanpuchea's population.
I'm gonna go with the Bolsheviks and Maoists pretty much took it to the max possible.
Especially once Uncle Joe took over the Soviets.
As if government can give what it doesn't first take from it's citizen/subjects.
Space travel agent? Yes can you please print me a map to get to space?
Yes keep going up
Ackshually, sideways.
Up is more important. Sideways without up just leaves you smashing into buildings and trees and mountains.
Talk to Musk about self-driving rockets.
Or work-at-home rocket drivers. Damn, he'll have a shit-fit!
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Tesla CEO Elon Musk 'The laptop class is living in la-la land' over work-from-home
https://youtu.be/6pLLVqqF8VA?si=1-8E8UjeA_frnmsv
I guess ol' Muskie doesn't consider farmers, ranchers, homesteaders, or craftsmen and shopkeepers from the Renaissance on to be moral. Both pig-ignorant and a dickhead! Must be nice to have more money than sense!
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Pretty sure that farmers, ranchers, homesteaders, craftsmen and shopkeepers are working at work. Not home.
Not the same thing as some coder in his PJs.
Yeah, most farmers and ranchers have fields and pastures scattered all over the place, and only a small portion of their land attached to their home place.
But farmers, ranchers, and homesteaders don't have to travel for their work. Their "Back Forty" is their back yard.
And craftsmen and shopkeepers from the Renaissance onward typically had living space either on a second floor loft or in the rear of their building and their workspace or shop was in the front. Again, no travel to work required.
Lol. Yeah, I’m sure that’s what he meant by “laptop class”. That’s quite the stretch just to insult the guy.
Why don’t you just say he’s “a dickhead” because he’s rich?
Man, that class envy look is just as bad as the anti theist look. You are very hateful.
I kind of wonder if he's on the spectrum. I am on the spectrum and I see some indications he may also be on the spectrum.
Kindest thoughts and sympathies on that.
Rest assured, my questioning of things I see as nonsense plays no favorites with anyone. Free Inquiry does not discriminate based on neurodiversity.
I don't envy Elon Musk. Envy is hating the good for being good. To envy him, he would have to first be good and have good thoughts.
His thoughts about work-from-home simply aren't good and if he practiced what he preached, none of his contractors and no one he buys his consumer goods from would have home-based workers.
Also, if he were really good at his work, he could make and sell his EVs and make them universal as well as fire off his rockets without subsidies and perks from government.
Color me non-plussed by Muskie.
You just need really good breaks. The Earth is moving through space. So if you just stop, it will move away from you.
It’s tough to get a break when you have bad brakes.
Who still uses travel agents? Can you book it on Expedia or Kayak yet? Priceline best be the first,since they had Bill Shatner as their spokesperson.
And from here, you can potentially see almost half the possible destinations in the known Universe... and from over there, you can potentially see the other half. This concludes our tour.
It requires building sidewalks, bike trails, playgrounds and crosswalks that are safely usable by kids."
No, it doesn't. Didn't have any of these and I'd ride my bike miles from the house. All it takes is letting your kids go explore.
This. Never had any of those, either. Grew up in outskirts of a small town, not out in BFE but not in any city center either. Neighborhood roads, 25MPH, no through traffic. Played football and whiffle ball in one undeveloped lot next door to that one family with 7 kids. Creek behind the neighborhood. Would ice skate miles up and down the creek in the winter--thin ice never a problem because the creek was only 18 inches deep anyway. City reservoirs on the other side of the creek to fish in. Rode bikes all over creation.
Of course that was the late 70's before 24-hour news told us child predators lurked on each and every corner with vans to snatch up kids. And not every second was scheduled for play dates and activities and organized sports (yeah, played Little League and Y basketball, but nothing like today).
People pay extra to live in nice neighborhoods that don’t have sidewalks.
That unfairly keeps out the un-carred!
Yes. Also means no sidewalk to shovel in the winter. Very nice.
Yep. I saw two preteens on bikes carrying fishing poles on Saturday. Some parents get it.
Open desert was 1.5 miles from the house growing up. Spent a lot of time out there.
Yeah that statement reveals the elitist mindset that is part of the problem. Kids don't need the state to create create "safely usable" environments to have fun. Leave them to their own devices and they'll learn more and have more fun. I grew up without sidewalks and playgrounds and walked and biked anywhere I wanted. As long as we were home for dinner my parents didn't give a shit.
Then how do you plan to indoctrinate kids so they expect a government-curated life?
Like I've mentioned before, the Amber Hagerman murder seems to have made something snap in the synapses of Gen-X parents, because that was right around the time that the ultra-helicopter parenting and soccer mom culture kicked in with force.
I think I've finally managed to completely eliminate those alerts from my phone. Which means that a full OS update must be imminent, to reset all of those settings.
Actually it may require some of those. Bike trails may be asking a bit much, but sidewalks may be required in areas that seem to actively preclude pedestrians otherwise.
Nothing stupider than required sidewalks that abruptly end at the edge of the development with no hope of ever getting connected to another sidewalk.
sidewalks may be required in areas that seem to actively preclude pedestrians otherwise
It is actually possible to walk on things that aren't sidewalks.
Not according to any Sergeant Major I've ever met, especially not grass.
this and now new subdivisions are required to create bike/walk trails and play areas and that only increases the cost of construction leaving more people unable to afford homes
The Catholic advocacy group Catholic Answers released an AI priest called 'Father Justin' earlier this week—but quickly defrocked the chatbot after it repeatedly claimed it was a real member of the clergy...
Hardly the worst thing Father Skynet could have done.
No, he's been hanging out on Roblox/Fortnite servers, too. The beauty of being omnipresent.
I was going to go with Robot Heaven.
Let's bow our heads and pray 1000100011001.
4377?
I don't know ask Bender.
As I said yesterday, we can "right-size" the Clergy anytime without AI by simply staying home and not sending our money to con-artist houses of worship.
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Outside of the West churches and mosques provide most of the planet's medical and social welfare. Beating out all the government and secular charitable sources combined, but c0n aRtiStS...
But the West is the best.
And yeah, they are con artists. I don't see any house of worship healing diseases like the Mayo Clinic or creating new products or services or creating jobs outside of Clergy and staff.
Amen brother, preach that gospel. Nothing fresher than a prosetylsizing atheist. Hallelujah, we are saved, because the atheist has all the answers we need. If you don't believe me, ask him, he'll save your soul (well, you know what I mean).
Stalin gave the same kind of advice back in his day. Look where it took the Soviets...
No Stalin is needed for people to stay home from houses of worship and refuse them money. It's happening right now quite spontaneously.
Here’s a question for all,
I was watching a documentary on HBO about the road to the Oklahoma City bombing. In it, they covered the usual, noted some oddities.
1. 22 witnesses said there was a second person casing the area with McVeigh. The sketch looked a lot like a man the documentary showed who was present also in Elohim City and left (apparently) for Germany afterward. For some odd reason, the FBI dropped the case against him and stopped looking for him.
2. The Oklahoma City bomb squad was apparently alerted to something beforehand, and they were seen inspecting the alleys around the building.
3. Terry Nichols was communicating with a survivor of the bombing, and it was suddenly cut off after Nichols mentioned that a rouge fed was apparently involved somehow.
In light of the feds acting as the Patriot Front, and other actions, any thoughts on this?
The things left out
4. The atf was told not to go into work
5. A doj agent called the FBI DC office and reported the OKC building has been bombed, 24 minutes before the explosion
6. A second and third bomb were found, and could not have been placed by mcveig
7. Terrance yeeky
8. Ballistic research laboratory explosives expert testified that a pressure bomb could not do that damage. Furthmore attempts to recreate the mcneigh bomb as the atf stated it was constructed turned out to not be able to do damage beyond blowing out windows
I’ve heard about some of that as well. It gives off a whiff of being a false flag operation.
Russians!
Is that like the Aliens dude meme?
I've only skimmed the surface of that particular story but like pretty much every other official narrative it has a strong stench of deceit. I'm a conspiracy realist. But these rabbit holes can take you places where you don't really want to be.
It has been a while, but I read McVeigh's lawyer's book. It was pretty informative, but also sounded like a defense attorney punching reasonable doubt moreso that professing innocence. The whole think stinks, and it seems preposterous that there wasn't more involved than a couple fuckup army vets throwing together some fertilizer and demolishing a huge structure.
The whole think stinks, and it seems preposterous that there wasn’t more involved than a couple fuckup army vets throwing together some fertilizer and demolishing a huge structure.
Here's the thing--amateur bomb makers tend to be colossal fuckups a lot of the time. If they are competent at it, it's because they've received dedicated training, whether it's ex-Baath soldiers in Iraq, or Weather Underground in the US (leaving aside the Greenwich Village explosion, WU's bomb-making was extremely competent, as they had a Quebecois separatist who was quite skilled at it working with them).
The death tolls by the Columbine and Aurora Colorado theater shooters would have been a lot worse if those idiots had been better at making bombs. The propane bombs in the lunchroom at Columbine would have caved in the whole cafeteria floor into the library, while the theater shooter had enough explosives wired up in his apartment to take out the entire building. Notably, there was no weird glowie presence over these guys, unlike the Las Vegas shooter or the Orlando nightclub shooter, and the random white-boy public mass shootings tailed off after the idiot at the Indiana mall got surgically ventilated by a guy who had ignored the "gun-free zone" signs and was carrying concealed.
So it's not out of the realm of probability that OKC was a glowie op to try and take the heat off of them for their fuckups at Waco and Ruby Ridge.
The interesting thing is that it gave off a whiff of that in a documentary that seemed a bit more pro-government. I still want to know who the hell John Doe #2 is exactly. He seems integral to whole thing one way or another, and I want to know why the feds stopped looking for him.
Your question: I still want to know who the hell John Doe #2 is exactly
You answered it: I want to know why the feds stopped looking for him
I kind of figure he’s a fed or rogue fed, but I want to know who the guy is, and if he’s still working there.
I haven't finished it yet, but the first 1/2 that I've seen was way less pro-government propaganda than I expected it to be.
Well, if they left the country it then becomes a job for a bunch of other three letter agencies. Notably agencies who are even less transparent and more unaccountable than the FBI.
If one doesn't trust the FBI, there is little reason to think they stopped looking for anyone in particular. Last I heard, they're simultaneously looking and not looking for Dan Cooper as well.
In the documentary, they showed the sketch of John Doe #2. He’s a dead ringer for a guy named Andreas Strassmeir who apparently came from Germany to be head of security at Elohim City. Interestingly, he shows up on a site called “wikispooks”.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Andreas_Stra%C3%9Fmeir
Ever take the tour at the memorial? The recordings were obviously written by a Clinton propagandist.
I’ve been to the memorial, but did not go inside the museum part.
If the memorial is a National Park Service site, I guarantee it was written by an ideological leftist.
Did they recast more victims as POCs?
As we saw with the Gretchen Witchmer case, as well as countless "terrorist" arrests over the last 20-odd years, a lot of incidents sure seem to have a whiff of glowies doing glowie shit. It's hardly a coincidence that Clinton and the media were doing a shit-ton of scare-mongering about "right wing militias" around that time.
Setting up a false flag as part of a dialectic about "right wing extremism" is certainly right up their alley, while left-wing political violence is funded and legally protected by the Regime.
Do you think the national media were more skeptical in the 90s?
That seems like a tough one. I don't particularly think they were more skeptical, but they were run less like state media than they currently are.
No. The media fucked up as badly as the FBI at Ruby Ridge. It should have been glaringly obvious what was going on at the time and they did zero investigation. The government's case was so bad that Weaver's attorney called zero witnesses for the defense. Yet, nobody gave a shit by the time Weaver was acquitted or when he settled his civil suit.
National news. Local stuff was pretty on top of it. I remember a KXLY reporter reporting on FBI giving shoot to kill orders for anyone carrying a firearm remark "it's hunting season in Idaho, that will be over half the people."
Absolutely not. They've been in the tank for Democrats for a long, long time.
1. 22 witnesses said there was a second person casing the area with McVeigh. The sketch looked a lot like a man the documentary showed who was present also in Elohim City and left (apparently) for Germany afterward. For some odd reason, the FBI dropped the case against him and stopped looking for him.
That Ray Epps is slippery like that.
Bloomberg interviewed one of the first space travel agents.
"Get your ass to Mars!"
"Today's kids roam less than in earlier generations. Overscheduling and parents' safety fears are part of the reason, but it's also true that American suburbs built in the past 30 years are less walkable and bikeable than older neighborhoods..."
As always, country folk do not exist.
Nor should they.
- Most urbanists and (D) elitists
This idea that suburbs aren’t as walkable or bikeable is stupid and doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Even exurban developments have sidewalks, and you ride your bike on the fucking road whether or not you have a dedicated bike lane, just like Gen-X kids did in the 70s and 80s.
It mainly boils down to parents not letting their kids get out and explore, over-vigilant neighbors that will call the cops on the parents instead of getting to know the kids, and using digital devices as babysitters. Yeah, Gen-Xers had a lot of TV as Babysitter time, but that was mainly in the pre-school years when Mom had housework to do and didn’t want to plop you in a playpen all day. Once we got to elementary school and started making friends, we were typically told to GTFO and go play, or to invite the friends over so THEY could play.
3 decades-plus of "safety culture" has done more to change this than anything else.
We are now in the stay inside, get fat, and die young from heart disease phase of human development.
Most of it seems to boil down to increasing social atomization at the source. We've become less and less community oriented and increasingly solipsistic, and this has accelerated in particular after the release of the iPhone and rise of Facebook (Blackberry really started the digital umbilicus trend, but those two developments were the rocket fuel that sent it into orbit). Shit like Door Dash is an example of what happens when it becomes socially acceptable to stay inside all day playing on a digital device.
It's also driven other trends like women becoming so ubiquitous in politics. Most of that shit is driven by social media, and women are WAY more likely to be fucking around on their smartphones than men.
Even Politico is starting to notice the pattern if Biden family members and foreign countries as they question Jim Bidens work with Qatar and Biden refusing to address terrorism from Qatar. And no, Jim still hasn't applied under FARA.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/28/jim-biden-qatar-testimony-00154704
It’s been blatantly obvious for years what the Biden’s have been doing if one only bothers look at it. Politico and others didn’t want to look for it because Orange Man Bad.
Better the devil you know (and can control)?
'Democrats had not yet exerted much public pressure on universities to shut down their tent-city pro-Palestine encampments; that has mostly been a Republican project.'
I guess the DNC has completed their voter reaction polling.
Focus groups take time.
That, plus their sugar daddy Soros is funding most of the organizational activities.
From the SoS and County that ran the worst 2020 election..
According to the draft, Richer said, “I posit that the gravest threat to voting rights and our elected form of government is no longer the systematic disenfranchisement of a particular class of people, but instead the undermining of the entire election system through lies and disinformation. And it is in this respect, that the Constitution today is in some ways a thorn in the side of my office. Specifically the First Amendment.”
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/ariz-sos-maricopa-county-censor-election-misinfo-view-first-amendment
Stupid freedoms getting in my way!
Well, then, let's rewrite the Constitution and make it all about the limits on what the peasants are allowed to do.
"That which is not required is not allowed".
Done.
I thought that was already taken care of mostly by the commerce clause?
How are lies today a greater threat to the election system than lies in 1924 were?
The threat is the official narrative being exposed.
Computers.
Coolidge wasn't orange?
Do we know that for a fact? I mean, all the old photos and film are black & white or sepia.
Hard to tell if his hair is light brown or a shade of red from the portrait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge#/media/File%3ACcoolidge.jpeg
Actually, he does kinda look a little orange in that painting.
Yep, looking kind of orange there.
If we just gave Hamas more humanitarian aid... as they attack port being constructed in Gaza.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/04/report-gaza-terrorists-attack-u-s-humanitarian-pier-during-construction-work/
And didn't pretty much everyone not bunkered in the White House predict exactly that outcome?
I know it looks bad but they're on the right side of history.
Funny thing about Biden sending aid which will wind up in the hands of Hamas; Hamas is a designated terrorist organization.
Supporting a terrorist organization is a federal law violation.
So if the supremes say there is no (or very limited) immunity, what happens next January?
Nothing.
Ask Obama, who gave billions to Iran in cash that was almost certainly used not only in this particular terrorist attack but a host of other one's that have killed Americans overseas.
If that isn't technical and literal treason, then nothing is.
That's (D)ifferent.
Hmmm,call me a conspiracy nut, but it’s almost like Hamas wants as many dead Palestinian civilians as possible so they can blame Israel. Nah, that’s just crazy.
They do have a lot of willing morons in America to carry their message.
'If our elite schools aren't producing industrious people with critical thinking skills, what good are they exactly?'
Sectarian seminaries? Revolutionary incubators? Public support for self-serving elitist guilds? Resorts for perpetual children? Sports franchises for underserved cities?
Jobs programs for people with "studies" degrees but no marketable skills?
A place to send your trouble making kid so they are out of the house?
Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
WELL WELL WELL I am pretty sure we never heard this part of the "classified documents/box" story!
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More from unredacted motions in FLA--this is from an unsealed transcript of witness interview.
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FBI agent says GSA was holding large quantity of Trump's boxes in VA and then ordered his team to come get them.
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I am sure NOTHING hanky happened there...
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https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1784226958127014361
So government demands shipment of boxes to Mar A Lago that contained classified documents.. then investigate Mar A Lago to find classified documents.
Yep. Nothing suspicious there.
It also looks like the Administration and the DOJ somehow really pissed off this judge. She’s been going full tilt on releasing unredacted documents on this. It makes the DOJ look really bad.
We have to re-elect trump to find out what’s in them.
But she is a Trump appointed Judge so eventually will be arrested.
When Cannon starts dismissing charges you'll hear the DC screaming in Arizona. Gonna be epic.
Judge Cannon will have a sudden change of heart when they have the same talk they had with Mike Johnson, with her.
Either that or she'll commit suicide with a couple of shots to the back of the head.
Well, Biden can only eat mushy bananas these days. What OTHER kind of republic could he govern over except a banana one?
Ain't you glad those precious norms are back?
RE Ilhan Omar's visit to Columbia: why do these crowds seem to be all female? Don't they know that in future Palestine (and the Caliphate) only men are allowed outside?
They are awfls
why do these crowds seem to be all female?
On the right side of HERstory.
[sniggers into hand covering mouth] Because all the male activists [sniggers] are in Gaza defending it with their rifleBWAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
I gave it my best shot.
They are called useful idiots for a reason, it turns out.
Kind of the same deal as feminists that insist that men are the best possible sex/gender since M2F trans are able to fully know what it means to be a woman and are better at it than 'normal' women in every way imaginable.
So much so that even woman of the year awards are now given to men, not just excellence in female fitness awards.
If a 'feminist' notices that is insane, they are quickly derided as a TERF and thrown under the bus. I guess there is some consolation for them that they weren't actually thrown off a roof.
https://youtu.be/Cnn2aGVcCEc
This may fit.
"You have to be a millionaire to live in Cuba today," fruit and vegetable seller Yoandris Hierrezuelo (who earns $5 a day peddling her wares in Havana) told The New York Times. "The state can no longer meet the basic needs of the population."
You mean Obama attending one of their baseball games didn't solve everything?
"American suburbs built in the past 30 years are less walkable and bikeable than older neighborhoods."
In the suburb I grew up in during the 50s and 60s, the roads were just barely two cars wide, and there was no sidewalk. Somehow, we were able to walk, run, ride bikes, race homemade coaster cars made of a few 2X4s and random wheels, and never got hurt. The only sidewalks I saw were near my school, after a 3/4 mile walk.
Exactly. Played tennis ball hockey in the street. Pickle in the street. Touch football in the street. "Car!"
Small towns used to have signs reading "children playing" in residential neighborhoods. Kids playing in the street was an accepted part of the culture. Once in a while a kid would get hit by a car. But nobody blamed the kid. They blamed the adult driver.
Round here there are lots of "SLOW CHILDREN AT PLAY" signs. I'm never sure if they mean slow down for children, or watch out for retards in the road.
If the sign is in front of your house, we know the answer.
During the 50s and 60s the country had half as many people, and most households only had one car. So there was far less traffic than today.
We’re talking the 70s and 80s here, Sarc. Traffic on a lot of small urban and suburban streets isn’t much different than today.
A lot more people looking at phones, though.
During the 50s and 60s the country had half as many people, and most households only had one car. So there was far less traffic than today.
Sarc forgot we continued to build more roads.
even modern subdivisions most of the traffic is limited to morning and evening commuters teh rest of teh day and evening the roads are fairly clear
Even so, doubling the number of cars (one per household to two) would double the commuter traffic. The math isn't that hard.
Math. Like you not knowing inflation was exponential growth?
after a 3/4 mile walk.
Uphill both ways?
Anything less than 10 miles is not worth mentioning - - - - - - - -
Uphill both ways?
In the snow! And I had to share the only pair of boots with my brother! And they had a hole in them.
We had very similar childhoods.
You had boots, how posh. Look at Mr Moneybags here, with his poshy boots.
I was going to say my siblings all had to share a single sneaker. Not even full pair.
And it was a hand me down at that, held together with duct tape and electrical tape.
You had tape?
Only because the mill gave Dad a bonus that Christmas so Ma could get us caught up at the company store.
Once our feet were amputated from frostbite we could hobble to school on our stumps without worrying about shoes.
But maybe there didn't need to be a sidewalk because the roads were just barely 2 cars wide; therefore the drivers drove slowly and carefully around curves. Now they build the streets for young whipper-snapping hot rodders!
In parts of California the roads are required to be wide enough to turn around a fire truck and not just the little ones the full mile long ladder trucks since they don't teach the fire department how to back up. its is reduclas 70' wide roads and this is why lots are so small now the rest of the land is taken up in roads, its also not enviro friendly but the fire marshalls can over rule all codes.
I was recently visiting some family in a brand new subdivision in North Carolina near Raleigh and I was happy to see lots of kids playing in the street and roaming the neighborhood there.
Sounds fancy.
"You have to be a millionaire to live in Cuba today," fruit and vegetable seller Yoandris Hierrezuelo (who earns $5 a day peddling her wares in Havana) told The New York Times. "The state can no longer meet the basic needs of the population."
I am sure the Times shares the same opinion.
'Tesla clears some of China's hurdles, gets closer to being able to operate there.'
To clarify, Musk got permission to deploy more self-driving technology. And as bad as robot cars might be, they have to drive better than Asians.
Zing!
ISWYDT.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/266560893234?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=266560893234&targetid=4581046493084972&device=m&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603678871&mkgroupid=1239150626926797&rlsatarget=pla-4581046493084972&abcId=9375682&merchantid=51291&msclkid=bb97ca7d45a115093535ac52fe309e30
Self-driving cars make it easier for the Uyghur children to get to the lithium mines.
" . . . Columbia is a private university . . . "
Well, except for the millions of tax dollars they get.
When they go Hillsdale, I will quit giving a damn what they do; until then, follow the rules.
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Wall Street Has Spent Billions Buying Homes. A Crackdown Is Looming.
Lawmakers say investors that scooped up hundreds of thousands of houses to rent out are driving up home prices
Democrats in the U.S. Senate and House have sponsored legislation that would force large owners of single-family homes to sell houses to family buyers. A Republican’s bill in the Ohio state legislature aims to drive out institutional owners through heavy taxation.
Lawmakers in Nebraska, California, New York, Minnesota and North Carolina are among those proposing similar laws.
https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/wall-street-has-spent-billions-buying-homes-a-crackdown-is-looming-f85ae5f6?mod=hp_lead_pos1
#BidensFault
This “corporate large-scale buying of residential homes seems to be distorting the market and making it harder for the average Texan to purchase a home,” Republican Gov. Greg Abbott wrote on X last month. “This must be added to the legislative agenda to protect Texas families.”
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
That can't be true. Republicans are the party of economic liberty.
Ummm....
"Democrats in the U.S. Senate and House have sponsored legislation that would force large owners of single-family homes to sell houses to family buyers."
You probably should have actually read what Shrike was pushing before posting.
Is this another one of those cases where a Republican executive enthusiastically signs a bill into law and you blame Democrats? You do that a lot.
Let me help you again, Mr. Readrealgood.
"“Democrats in the U.S. Senate and House have sponsored legislation that would force large owners of single-family homes to sell houses to family buyers.”
It's right there in Shrike's quote.
This “corporate large-scale buying of residential homes seems to be distorting the market and making it harder for the average Texan to purchase a home,” Republican Gov. Greg Abbott wrote on X last month. “This must be added to the legislative agenda to protect Texas families.”
Should this pass in Texas there is a 100% certainty that you will blame Democrats for a bill signed by a Republican. Like how you still claim that Pelosi was holding a gun to Trump’s head when he enthusiastically signed the CARES Act with much fanfare, and how you blame Democrats for the inflation caused by increasing the monetary supply with checks that Trump complained about not being big enough (though he did get his name on them).
Why do you keep deflecting and ignoring the Dems doing it?
You aren't even trying to hide being partisan anymore.
Again, Mr. Readrealgood.
“Democrats in the U.S. Senate and House have sponsored legislation that would force large owners of single-family homes to sell houses to family buyers.”
You can’t keep deflecting and ignoring this.
Did a Republican governor declare that he wants this legislation in his state? Yes or no.
I’m not ignoring that Democrats are pushing this at the federal level. I just don’t see how it’s particularly outrageous since that party is openly hostile to business. Republicans are supposed to fight this shit, not go all-in. So why aren't they?
So what you're saying is you will criticize the GOP but not the DNC.
Did Democrats in the U.S. Senate and House have sponsor legislation that would force large owners of single-family homes to sell houses to family buyers? Yes or no.
I’m not ignoring that Democrats are pushing this at the federal level. I just don’t see how it’s particularly outrageous since that party is openly hostile to business. Republicans are supposed to fight this shit, not go all-in. So why aren’t they?
Wait, so it's not outrageous that the Democrats are doing this at a federal level, but it is that a single Republican governor is doing it at the state level?
Did you try reading shrikes link retard? ML even cut a portion of it out for you.
It's not so much that Republicans are universally good on economic liberty as that Democrats are largely explicitly against it.
Republicans are full-blown protectionists now. They’re all about taxing imports and subsidizing industry. The major difference between teams on economics is what they tax and who they subsidize, not principle.
Then why your need to deflect away from criticism of democrats? Or your anger when someone criticizes the uniparty? Or your pining for neocons who said things you like and then did the opposite?
Totally not a Democrat. He just impulsively deflects for them for no particular reason at all.
Why don't you give praise to Biden for continuing and expanding upon Trump's protectionist tariffs? (that's a rhetorical question because everyone knows your attacks on critics of tariffs were in defense of Trump, not the policy)
Deflection example #87913
Question sarc. Why haven't you ever told us which president hasn't used tariffs? Why it was uniquely bad under Trump? He didn't even run an an anti tariff platform like many neocons who still passed them. Reagan used tariffs too, but you never criticize that.
Whats different?
Lawmakers say investors that scooped up hundreds of thousands of houses..
Are these the same sons of bitches that buy all the stocks and bonds?
AI Catholic Priests, OK...
Now this! "Robot Mullahs" Mullah THIS shit over a bit! Then OBEY!!!
https://futurism.com/the-byte/iran-ai-fatwas
IRANIAN AUTHORITIES SAY AI COULD HELP ISSUE FATWAS FASTER THAN EVER BEFORE
Anyone wanna tell this guy about Google Gemini?
What’s Wrong With the Economy? It’s You, Not the Data
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By more than 2-to-1 (56% to 25%), respondents said the economy had gotten worse rather than gotten better over the past two years. That is difficult to square with robust employment growth, unemployment near its lowest in half a century, or growth in gross domestic product, which actually accelerated last year.
https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/whats-wrong-with-the-economy-its-you-not-the-data-cfa911e6?mod=economy_feat3_consumers_pos2
WALL STREET COMMIES!
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
THE ECONOMY IS TEERIBLE! crowd consists of lots of snot-nosed gamer age kids who complain that they can't make $100,000 at 22.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides
Yes, blame the victim.
Hey, things are great for the gentry class. Why can't the working/middle classes get how great things are for their betters.
Crazy prices got you down? Can't afford bread? Stop being poor. Eat more cake.
It is amazing watching a dem NPC given facts after factsand still blindly pushing narratives.
Real wages down.
Full time jobs down, part time jobs up
Government jobs a big percent of full time work
Inflation still way above plan
Highest credit card debt in history
Foreclosures and repossessions increasing
Every jobs and economic report revised down the next quarter
But dem narratives say otherwise!
We told you to stop lying, Jesse.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2024/real-average-hourly-earnings-increased-1-4-percent-from-january-2023-to-january-2024.htm
turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
Too bad inflation is like 8%.
Imagine if that wasn't a mere fraction of inflation.
Also, are they going to quietly revise those numbers down by half a month later, like they have with every jobs report they've released in the last several years?
Inflation was officially 3.9% over that same time frame.
Seems to be people are losing money.
EDIT: Mind you, the government re-did how they measure inflation this year to make it appear falsely lower than it is.
Why did you choose jan 2023 as start date? Because it skipped over the 2022 inflation?
He's hoping cherry-picking pays a living wage.
No matter how hard you piss, you'll never convince me it's raining.
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They seem to say the line of fracture is between Trumpers, who are on the libertarian side, and never-Trumps, who are on the authoritarian side.
Broken clocks are right twice a day.
So speaks the broken clock himself.
He manages to only be right once a year.
Even here he attacks the only side that is heavily against it. Soon he will say they are right for the wrong reasons after defending the good intentions of the left.
He stated previously that even if someone is correct, he won’t accept it if they are the wrong person.
Crazy but true.
never mind the GOP the left seems to be full on board with 702 but its the GOP's fault
> but it's also true that American suburbs built in the past 30 years are less walkable and bikeable than older neighborhoods.
This is not true at all.
30 years ago was the mid-1990's. Suburbs built in the last 30 years are basically the same as the suburbs built in the 60, 70, and 80's - you know, the years Gen X was running around outside.
In fact, the major difference is that modern suburbs (80's on) are *safer* because they use the cul-de-sac format rather than the straight grid layout of older suburbs. Less through traffic.
South Dakota governor Kristi Noem defends shooting 'aggressive' puppy on her family's farm: 'Dogs who attack and kill can be put down'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13362031/governor-kristi-noem-defends-shooting-puppy-dog.html
Who the heck does the think she is? A cop?
The thing that's getting missed here is that taking animals out in the field, for a variety of reasons from aggressive behavior to physical deterioration and putting a bullet in them wasn't terribly uncommon in rural areas for a long time, and to a certain extent probably still isn't. You're too fucking busy to take the time to fully train a dog that won't take to training, the mother can have other pups, and vets weren't always readily available.
Noem doesn't really have that excuse because she could have easily taken the dog to a shelter, where it might have at least been put down humanely.
I can tell you never spent time on a farm.
Right back at ya. Maybe you missed this part:
wasn’t terribly uncommon in rural areas for a long time
Yes, we are a much more cotton-soft society now, but that's not the way it always was.
It’s not to our benefit.
There are lots of things being missed here.
People's problems can't be infinitely outsourced, especially without overhead. Personally, I wouldn't consider offloading an issue like this onto a shelter to be humane. Humane went out the window the instant the dog bit somebody.
Along those lines, you know what else isn't terribly uncommon even in non-rural areas? Dumping dogs, cats, and even other pets and animals out in the boonies. Just the other day, Mrs. Casual and I saw a corn snake in the middle of the road. Corn snakes are not native to this region, but somebody's got to deal with it.
But nobody has to worry their little head about the fate of humanity, I... we can claim the moral high ground because I personally, sorry, we didn't do anything to the snake. Or that we know of anyway, for all I know animal control showed up and killed it or a red tail or other predator solved the problem before animal control did.
As someone who hates most people in rural areas this is really much ado about nothing. Animals are slaughtered on farms all the time. Many people feel differently about dogs because they’re kept as pets, but unless you’re a pussy save the animals type, you really shouldn’t criticize her. If she would have taken it to a shelter there’s a good chance it would have been euthanized there anyway.
I absolutely guarantee the dog would have been put down at a shelter, especially if it had an aggressive temperament. There's some that will work with dogs to a certain extent and they do the best they can, but these are still largely holding pens and the goal is to get them adopted as quick as possible. No-kill shelters are extremely rare and typically don't take in a lot of animals for that reason.
Hopefully giving these rural people credit for doing nothing wrong will spark further change in you, because holy moly, you really need it.
>"But walkability in suburban neighborhoods is a far more important issue. It requires building sidewalks, bike trails, playgrounds and crosswalks that are safely usable by kids."
Other than sidewalks, none of the older suburbs had any of this either. The guys all over the place as to why 'modern' suburbs are the cause for children not going out when it just comes down to changes in parenting culture.
And also, importantly, by the Baby Bust. There's less parenting, period, because fewer children. Once you get below a certain density of children in a neighborhood, it no longer pays for them to venture out to play with their peer; they don't have any. So I don't lament the increased ratio of adult-organized children's recreation, because it's needed now more than it used to be. I coach children's football, and if it weren't for parents driving children to the park, the only way a lot of them would meet each other would be either online or in school.
Totally missed the point that parents are driving the kids to the park. That’s not a result of fewer kids.
Most people don't live next to a park with a football field. Even in my small home town of around 9,000 people the football field was on the other side of town and would require walking more than a few miles to get there. Also you'd have to walk across a highway, which isn't generally recommended since at least one kid was hit crossing back when I lived there in the stone age.
The attitude on kids has certainly changed. There is a real push back against 'breeders' today that I never came into contact with in bygone days. We're expecting our first kid, and you'd be amazed at some of the comments we get from our more liberal friends regarding our impact on 'mother earth' and the like. Needless to say, we probably won't know them much longer for a variety of reasons.
Congrats on the pregnancy. Your kid's impact on mother earth will be to make it better place, believe me. Your childless liberal friends will leave behind a pile of bones.
"...you’d be amazed at some of the comments we get from our more liberal friends regarding our impact on ‘mother earth’ and the like.."
On a skeptics bbs some years back Ehrlich's lies were supported with 'well, he was wrong in detail, but right in general'.
Nope. He was wrong, period.
What the fuck is wrong with people? Why would you say things like that to someone expecting a child?
“Why would you say things like that to someone expecting a child?”
Those asking such questions have probably considered having children and rejected the idea for any number of reasons. The falling birthrate, in the end, comes down to millions of people, the world over, facing the same decision, whether or not to have children, and deciding not to.
Still no reason to be an asshole to people who are having kids. The people who have decided against having kids should be glad that someone is.
"Still no reason to be an asshole to people who are having kids"
It's not being an asshole. If someone has considered doing something and has decided against it, it's only natural to be curious why somebody else has taken the opposite course. Granted it's a personal matter and I hope it's between friends. A stranger asking the same questions, even for the same reason, is probably an asshole move. But between friends? No. That's what friends are for.
Says the asshole trueman.
Who obviously has no friends.
Not asshole: "congratulations, I'm so happy for you!"
Asshole: "Oh you're having a kid. What about the carbon footprint that creates?"
An ability to frankly exchange opinions and ideas is the hallmark of friendship. If the expectant couple so desperately need the fawning approval of their friends to validate their decision to have children, maybe they should have thought twice, about whom they choose as friends or even to have children in the first place. Such extreme emotional fragility of the parental unit doesn’t bode well for the kid’s future.
An ability to frankly exchange opinions and ideas is the hallmark of friendship."
Fuck off and die, asshole; NOT from a friend.
@mtrueman
You're not expressing opinion. You're telling people what to think, not how to think.
Well, in my opinion it boils down to they are so used to telling everyone how to live that this ends up being no different for them.
They are childless by choice, and that's fine, but to then turn around and try to give people advice for doing a thing they will likely never do have and have zero experience with would seem to be par for the course for the illiberal left.
As a bonus, it's wearing my wife's patience for her more liberal friends thin and we might not be seeing them again. Oh, no!
How ever will you cope?
"Well, in my opinion it boils down to they are so used to telling everyone how to live that this ends up being no different for them. "
That seems an uncharitable interpretation. What's wrong with friends sharing opinions on sensitive subjects?
trueman:
'What's wrong with being an asshole'?
As an asshole, trueman has no idea. It's sorta like 'why do people hate trueman on sight'?
It saves them time.
What’s wrong with friends sharing opinions on sensitive subjects?
Because people who "decide" not to have kids are insufferable like vegans and Somali pirates.
If that's the case, BYODB should choose his friends more carefully. I suggest he stick to meat eating non pirates for the time being.
BYODB didn't ask for your advice, doofus. Neither has he been around vegans or Somali pirates as you claim.
You have shown that you and your ilk, like the two aforementioned groups, cannot be trusted. Your dishonesty knows no bounds.
Driving them to the park is a result of fewer kids. To get enough kids to get up a game, they have to come from miles around.
The older post-WW2 suburbs certainly had playgrounds around, at it was for that very reason--to provide the kids a centralized place to play. My grandparents subdivision was built in the mid-50s, and there was at least one within a couple of blocks walking distance no matter where you lived in the development.
You're absolutely right about this being driven by changes in parenting culture. On top of that, adults are having kids later and later in life, and well over 50% of young men aren't even interested in dating, much less getting married and having kids.
And the thing is, having kids is something that shouldn't be waited on too long. The financial aspect of things aside, kids take up a LOT of energy and time, and once you hit your mid-30s, it gets harder and harder to go through the 18-year grind needed to get them to the adult stage. Doing 2 am feedings are tough at any age, but they absolutely suck in your early-mid 40s. Old-ass celebrities like Bruce Willis, George Clooney, Alec Baldwin, etc., having kids in their 50s and 60s can get away with it because they can hire nannies to do a lot of the work.
I'll add that a lot of the reason young men aren't interested in dating is because they don't want the headache of putting up with modern womens' bullshit.
"Today's kids roam less than in earlier generations. Overscheduling and parents' safety fears are part of the reason, but it's also true that American suburbs built in the past 30 years are less walkable and bikeable than older neighborhoods. Walkability is seen mainly as a concern for urbanites, who want to be able to stroll to a cocktail bar, grocery store or museum," writes Tim Carney in The Wall Street Journal. "But walkability in suburban neighborhoods is a far more important issue. It requires building sidewalks, bike trails, playgrounds and crosswalks that are safely usable by kids."
How do we push the 15 minute city agenda without, you know, pushing the 15 minute city agenda?
I'll scratch your "safer, better parenting" back and you scratch my "green city initiatives" back!
No suburb I lived in growing up had much of anything withing 'walking distance' - but we were out getting into trouble anyway. Its just that we walked a mile to the store or 4 miles, over the highway, to the park and library.
If you are the sort of person that thinks you need to drive your kid to the bus stop a half mile away - well, you're not going to understand how far kids can and will roam on their own.
Not San Francisco!
The office district is empty, with boarded up towers, copper thieves and failing retail—even the Panera outlet shut down. The city is desperately trying to reverse the ‘doom loop.’
It anchors a neighborhood with deserted sidewalks sprinkled with broken glass and tiny pieces of copper pipes left behind by scavengers. Signs suggest visitors should “park in well-lit areas.” Nearby, the city’s largest office building—the 44-story AT&T Tower, now empty—recently sold for around $3.5 million.
...
The price for the AT&T Tower, three blocks from the Railway Exchange, was a sliver of the $205 million it sold for in 2006. Its value has been falling for years. In 2022, it changed hands for just $4 million.
https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/doom-loop-st-louis-44505465?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1
This is the economy you’re busy simping.
The TDS-addled turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
Oh no! Not the Panera!
Dem politicians will snap it all up for a fraction of their value, and then kick out the druggies.
Also, those old sidewalks? Were old enough that they were all buckled - it would have been safer to bike and walk on the road to avoid being tripped by an errant slab.
Much more fun to ride your bike on a buckled sidewalk than a level sidewalk... (as a kid, at least. I prefer less excitement as an adult on a bike).
So Politico thinks reproducing the species is a far right populist conspiracy. Did not know that Japan was far right. The idea that falling birthrates are inconsequential and that we can forever replace ourselves with 3rd world immigrants is monumentally silly. Anyway former Reason contributor David Harsayni has an alternate take.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/26/is-the-economy-behind-the-low-birth-rate-unlikely/
Instead of pushing for expanding the welfare state — one that has already undermined community and family — maybe do a better job by expanding your flock. Or keeping it, for that matter. Because in the U.S., the loss of religiosity is likely a bigger reason for low birth rates than the economy. Studies consistently show that the more one attends church, the more kids they have. As of the 2020 Census, the top 10 states with the highest fertility rates were all red states. The bottom 10 were all blue.
Abortion is also a factor, obviously. The widespread availability of birth control, even more. To some extent, perhaps the Malthusian “eco-anxiety” created by climate-change alarmists and the “overpopulation” myth might play some part. Trendy pseudoreligions are nothing new.
I’m sure there are other factors. But the leading reason we’ve seen declining birth rates is surely that women have joined the workforce and postponed marriage and thus families. This is obvious. People are living longer, but biology doesn’t calibrate itself to your cultural expectations.
Yet many people function under the false expectation that having kids is supposed to be easy and without any inconvenient life choices. It’s never been easy to rear children, though it is immensely rewarding. So, for instance, one of the big complaints I hear is that daycare is too expensive. Well, move somewhere more affordable, or stay home with your kids. Or don’t. Life is a series of tradeoffs.
So Politico thinks reproducing the species is a far right populist conspiracy. Did not know that Japan was far right.
Japan? Virtually every single civilization for at least the first half of their existence.
Goddamned right-wing pre-Columbian natives… having kids and culture and shit like a bunch of fucking Nazis!
"Because in the U.S., the loss of religiosity is likely a bigger reason for low birth rates than the economy."
You're getting lost making up just so stories. A just so story is an untestable pseudo scientific narrative explanation for a cultural practice, a biological trait, or behavior of humans or other animals. You should avoid them and stick with the tried and true, even if you don't like its political implications. I have two better explanations for declining birthrates: environmental contamination - ubiquitous use of endocrine disruptors leading to low sperm counts, measured the world over, as well as a host of other effects on human sexuality like feminization, miscarriages etc. The other is the world wide phenomenon of increased population density as a result of the world wide move to the cities. Increasing population density leading to lower fertility is observed in plant life, animal life and bacterial life. It's not a stretch to think it affects humans too in the same way.
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
"Besides, legislators should probably be more concerned with the war in Gaza"
They are concerned, and afraid, too. The shrill denunciations of student protestors, the lies, the mocking and belittling of them is all the proof we need. What is it about the students that is so scary? It's their demand for universities like Columbia to divest from industries profiting from the genocide in Gaza. Something that doesn't get a mention in the article. Instead we are treated to tiresome boiler plate on how the demonstrators are anti-semitic, terror sympathizers and generally parroting the Israeli propaganda line taken up by America's political class and the press.
The failure of Israel and Ukraine to achieve any of their goals is obviously a cause for concern for any empire anxious to once and for all put squabbles in Europe and the MIddle East behind them and successfully pivot to China. There's not a lot we can do about that except send money and weapons. On the home front, it's a different story. Visits by delegations of denouncing politicians, ritual firings of university presidents, hand wringing over student safety, calls for title VI action, police, national guard and so on. All impotent and missing the point.
Can't be said often enough about the antisemite asshole trueman:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
“Spouting nonsense is an end in itself.”
Don't forget he has a favorite Nazi too.
I have to say, I have a favorite QB, Dan the Man Marino. I have a favorite soldier, Audie Murphy. A favorite pilot, Brig Gen Charles E. Chuck Yeager (dude broke the speed of sound with a busted rib and a hangover, fuck yeah). Hell, I even have a favorite Democratic President, Truman. But I've never thought about having a favorite Nazi.
"But I’ve never thought about having a favorite Nazi."
I don't mind sharing Hermann Goering with you. A falstaffian figure, and bungler who never took the crackpot theories of the Nazis seriously.
For favorite soldier, I beg you to reconsider. William Tecumseh Sherman is my favorite. An utter failure in life, prone to debilitating spells of melancholia, until his assignment to take Atlanta. His 40 acres and a mule plan was probably America's best and last chance to address the racial inequities that still plague the nation today.
There's nothing wrong with Audie Murphy, but I look at these questions from the stand point of what would Shakespeare do? Whose life could he shape into a compelling drama? He would have rejected Himmler, Hess, Hitler etc for lacking nuance and conflict. Audie Murphy, too. As for US presidents, Nixon's the one. My favorite by far.
^For anyone considering taking mtrueman seriously.
Note he doubles down on it, and dismisses Audie Murphy who stacked Nazi bodies like they were going out of style.
Nobody is dismissing Audie Murphy. He was a fine soldier who entered a war already won and later cashed in on his fame for a career as a second rate Hollywood actor. General Sherman on the other hand, was far more consequential, and his actions were vital to the defeat of the Confederacy. It's understandable that our celebrity crazed society favors the likes of Murphy over Sherman, but I urge all my readers to not be dazzled by Hollywood stardust and give Sherman what he deserves.
Remember:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
“Spouting nonsense is an end in itself.”
Fucking moron didn't even realize that Audie Murphy served in the ETO, in combat, from February 1943 until May 1945, and served in two of the bloodiest battles, Anzio and Palermo. Fucking moron.
I meant Salerno, he was at Palermo too, but that wasn't that bloody of a battle.
You need to check your history. Audie Murphy served in Operation Torch, the Sicily landing, Palermo break out, the siege of Anzio and the subsequent breakout and Operation Dragoon. His date of enlistment was 30 June 1942, his arrival in theater was February 1943, and he saw combat soon after that. You don't even fucking know what you're talking about now. Fucking Nazi loving moron.
Sorry he didn't see combat in North Africa, but did in Sicily and in Italy. The war was hardly already won in 1943, during the Sicily and Italian campaigns.
Additionally, Murphy started as a private, by the end of Sicily he was a corporal due to his combat performance. Was a sergeant when he landed in Southern France in Dragoon, received a battlefield commission for his actions in Dragoon and then received a battlefield commission. This all for someone who lied about his age in order to join, his awards include a MOH, distinguished service cross, 2 silver star, 2 bronze stars, 3 purple hearts, a presidential unit citation and about half a dozen French medals.
At Anzio, which earned him his first bronze star, he single handedly festro
"his awards include a MOH, distinguished service cross, 2 silver star, 2 bronze stars, 3 purple hearts, a presidential unit citation and about half a dozen French medals."
No Oscars? Golden Globes? Not even an honorable mention by the New York Film Critics Circle?
At Anzio, which earned him his first bronze star, he single handedly destroyed a German tank with a rifle grenade. His distinguished service cross was for single handedly destroying two mutually supportive German machine gun nests. Fucker was stacking bodies almost as soon as he got to theater and stacked bodies right up until the day the war ended. Most decorated soldier in US history. And he hardly got to the war after it was won. He participated in the second major operation of the ETO, through the end of the war.
He also has a star on the walk of Fame and the Texas Legislation Medal of Honor for his post war career. He also wrote poetry and several country songs. Which isn't to bad considering he had to drop out of school in fifth grade to work to support his family since his father basically abandoned the family.
* should read: He didn't "get to the war after it was won".
"No Oscars? Golden Globes? Not even an honorable mention by the New York Film Critics Circle?"
If there was a "Most Smug and Stupid Bullshitter", you'd retire the chair.
"His date of enlistment was 30 June 1942, his arrival in theater was February 1943"
The war was won by that time. For all his noble deeds, they did nothing to change the course of the war, let alone history. For that you need a figure of consequence, and I suggest you look into William Tecumseh Sherman. His life story is full of failure and wrestling with demons until well into the war when his campaign through Georgia was decisive. Unfortunately, his career after the war was not stellar, as it was engaging in land thieving and murder against the Indians, but at least he didn't spend his time prancing about on the stage with a bunch of effete sodomites.
The war was already won in 1943? Really? Eisenhower et al would disagree with that. You're full of shit. And yes, Murphy's contributions did help change the war. Every fucking soldier and airman who fought in the ETO helped change the course of the war. It just happens Murphy was a fucking bad ass, who served in three combat amphibious assaults, four beachheads, and in several of the bloodiest battles of the ETO. And without Grant, Sherman was nothing. Which even he fucking admitted. His march to the sea, Grant's plan. His march on Atlanta, again Grant's plan. If you're going to argue which Federal General was the best in the Civil War, it's hands down Grant. Sherman is a distant second or third (Thompson might have been better than Sherman, and Hancock should also enter that conversation). As for impressive and critical command decisions that really changed the course of the war, you'd be hard pressed to find a greater one than Chamberlain's order to fix bayonets and charge the Confederates after running out of ammunition during the fight for Little Round Top and Chamberlain was a college professor who never served before the war started.
Plus, Grant's Vicksburg campaign was a textbook example of maneuver and arguably contributed more to the end of the war than Gettysburg.
"The war was already won in 1943? Really?"
The tide had turned before Murphy made his entrance. And being a bad ass is simply not enough for him to qualify as my favorite. I want intelligent, complicated, conflicted people. It goes beyond facile hero worship. I thought I made that clear when I gave you examples of Sherman, Goering and Nixon.
Intelligence? Sherman's accomplishments were by following the orders and plans of Grant, ergo, it wasn't Sherman's intelligence that led him to success but Grant's. Besides the tide had not turned on the western front in 1943, because before June of that year, Germany and Italy had not lost a single inch of land on the western front. Additionally, you're falling into the trap of using hindsight to make your argument, knowing the outcome. A setback at Sicily or Salerno would have been catastrophic. Eisenhower prepared for Normandy to be a failure as well. None of those events were guaranteed. Not a single one. You know nothing about history and it's fairly blatantly obvious. You're giving Sherman credit for following someone else's orders and plans and labeling it intelligence. Also, if we're going to argue the tide had already turned in 1943, the tide had turned much more dramatically by 1864, the first time Sherman had a semi-independent command. And Sherman's one true independent command, not working on someone else's orders or plans, was an utter failure (Kentucky). So, as a truly independent commander, Sherman was hardly a bastion of military intelligence. He was a very good subordinate commander, but his one true independent command in an actual contended field (there were almost no Confederate forces facing him during his march from Atlanta to Savannah) he was a failure. His success only came by acting as a subordinate commander. As to his 40 acres, it was his overstepping his authority, something he was reprimanded for multiple times. And it wasn't even his suggestion in the first place, it had been discussed at length by the War Department before he issued his illegal order. In fact, Banks had been voicing a similar plan as far back as 1862 after taking New Orleans and had taken steps to implement it before also being slapped down by Lincoln and the War Department for overstepping his authority. In other words, again, Sherman was implementing someone else's plans, not offering his own.
Also, Sherman fucked up big time at Shiloh and had to be saved by Grant. He didn’t post enough pickets, ignored the pickets he did post and failed to rally his troops to resist the Confederates. Again, if it wasn’t for Grant he would have been cashiered.
Additionally, his performance at Chattanooga was lackluster, and the true battle honors should have gone to Thompson. Thompson's center took the ridge, while Sherman's attack failed.
You are giving a list of bad or nondescript things Sherman had done or was involved with. I think I can add a few things. I'm not sure he was in control of his troops. His army burned down something like half the towns they passed through, against Sherman's orders, for the most part. Not a good look for a general. And after with his genocidal drive against bison? Very unPC. My favorites all have weaknesses. Nixon was resentful and thin skinned. Goering was a Nazi.
To qualify as a favorite of mine, you need a mix of good and bad. Some complexity and contradictions of character. Not simple hero worship. Again think of the type of protagonist Shakespeare gave us. Hamlet, Lear, MacBeth.
Now, you ask what's the mix of 'good' in Goering? There's really nothing I recognize as good in any Nazi. Goering shines as a comic figure. Hence the comparison to Falstaff. Bumbling but crafty, you've seen his type in thousands of sitcoms.
Wow wrong on all counts
Favorite qb: Johnny unitis
Favorite soldier: Sgt york
Favorite pilot: linberg (teaching the mustang pilots how to lean out and operate over square extending the mustangs range to almost 1000nm)
Favorite Democrat president: the dead ones
Would Schindler count as a nazi?
"Don’t forget he has a favorite Nazi too"
Probably creams his jeans staring at photos of Bergen-Belsen.
the genocide in Gaza
Tell the lie until it becomes the truth. mtureman needs to shut the fuck up about propaganda.
"mtureman needs to shut the fuck up about propaganda."
You're concerned and afraid, too. Hence the hysterical denials and parroting Israeli propaganda - no genocide, headless raped babies lying in ovens, Palestinians don't exist, no military occupation, ethnic cleansing or apartheid, the military will free the hostages, terrorist HQ beneath hospitals, and a few more talking points that the likes of Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP) mindlessly repeat. Eventually it comes down to personal insults and the ludicrous charge that any criticism of Israel or the politicians is hatred of Jews.
You're full of shit.
Lol. The students aren’t “scary”, you idiot. They’re gullible fools. And their self importance is boring. School will get out, the children will go home, and they will have accomplished nothing.
"The students aren’t “scary”, you idiot."
You're lucky they're not protesting you. They are protesting the state's complicity in the genocide, the university's investments in companies which profit from Israel's war on Palestinians. If you didn't read that in the article, the aim of the protests, you should be asking yourself why I have to inform you. It's understandable you don't find the students scary. They someone else's investments. They threaten someone else's re-election chances.