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Protests

The Morningside Heights Tent City

Plus: Supreme Court takes up ghost guns, Abbott takes on trans teachers, the literalism of Civil War, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 4.23.2024 9:30 AM

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Pivot to remote: Happy Passover to those who observe. And to Columbia University students who happen to be Jewish: Enjoy your remote learning.

For those who've just tuned in, the pro-Palestine tent city encampment at Columbia—and several other universities across the country—keeps getting razed and then resurrected. But new video keeps emerging showing the treatment Jews on campus are facing, and it…does not make the protesters look good.

"Repeat after me: We have Zionists who've entered the camp," says one protester, referring to Jewish students. "We are going to create a human chain…so that they do not pass this point and infringe upon our privacy and try to disrupt our community," chanted the students, in unison, as if they were Jonestown cultists. At least one student, a visibly Jewish sophomore named Jonathan Lederer, says he was pushed and shoved by the mob, which also threw objects at him "from close range."

What is happening at Columbia? The "Gaza Solidarity Encampment" is essentially a tent city set up by students protesting not just Israel's military campaign inside Gaza but also Columbia University's "continued financial investment in corporations that profit from Israeli apartheid, genocide, and occupation in Palestine," set up by Columbia University Apartheid Divest, Students for Justice in Palestine, and Jewish Voice for Peace. The students have all kinds of odd and only tangentially related demands, including expecting the university to sever all ties with the New York Police Department (NYPD).

Last week, the universities—both Columbia and Barnard, which partners with Columbia and basically functions as an undergraduate college of the university—sent administrators into the throngs of protesting students to let them know it was time to break it up and disassemble the tent city, which was in violation of Columbia policy. When this failed, NYPD cops were sent in and arrested 108 students on Thursday evening. (Several sitting senators have called for the National Guard to be sent in to break up protests, which is surely overkill.)

The daughter of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), Isra Hisi, was among those arrested. "She had no idea she would end up suspended, homeless, and left without food within a matter of days," according to The Daily Beast, which seemed to think the sob-story lens was the way to go.

Following these arrests, the tent city simply sprang back up. Student demonstrators told Jews to "go back to Poland."

"Say it loud and say it clear, we don't want no Zionists here," added others, chanting.

Sit at home: "All faculty whose classrooms are located on the main Morningside campus and equipped with hybrid capabilities should enable them to provide virtual learning options," said the university yesterday, which has scheduled final exams for May 3–10. "Faculty in other classrooms or teaching spaces that do not have capabilities for offering hybrid options should hold classes remotely if there are student requests for virtual participation."

This feels like it has marks of the pandemic era all over it: In the absence of capable leadership, relegate students to remote learning—an unserious, worse form of teaching that could surely be gotten for cheaper than Columbia tuition. In the absence of an actually good strategy to ensure divestiture—which would be harder to pull off—just live-action role play as revolutionaries and tell Jews to go back to where they came from, as if that's coherent and aligned with anything else these mostly-leftist students espouse. It feels like, in the years following George Floyd, protests have descended to their lowest form. "You guys are all inbred," protesters reportedly told counter-protesting Jewish students.

In the not-so-distant past, Columbia has struggled to find principles to stand by when challenged by student protesters. In 2019, the university allowed Chinese Communist Party sympathizer student protesters to shut down a panel that would have detailed the regime's human rights violations and digital surveillance techniques, moderated by a Tiananmen Square survivor. Comedian Nimesh Patel had his mic cut by Columbia students after telling a joke about gay black men. Back in the mid-aughts, too, Columbia had another scandal, almost the current situation inverted: Professors perceived as too biased against Israel were targeted with mass scrutiny and calls for firing.

It's not clear what type of speech environment Columbia hopes to cultivate. But allowing tent cities to thrive on campus while telling Jews to simply log onto Zoom sure doesn't seem like what most students had in mind when they forked over their $70,000 tuition checks.


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Happy Passover to those who observe.

    This is literal genocide.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Just for the first born sons

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        And it's a good thing that never happened either. So Egyptians have reason for a Seder as well!
        🙂
        😉

        1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

          Anyone who values ethics, human rights and the basic difference between right and wrong must be appalled by the Israeli genocide in Gaza, and by anyone enabling it.

          This is recognized globally and by the UN International Court of Justice, as well as by many thoughtful students.

          The facts are recorded and shared by millions. No amount of propaganda can obfuscate these atrocities.

        2. Truthfulness   1 year ago

          https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/019513088X/reasonmagazinea-20/

          The Passover is a valuable holiday for Jews and reminds them of their relationship with God. How about you let go of your antisemitism? You're no better than Rob.

          1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

            Netanyahu reminded the IDF of the Jewish concept of their relationship with god, when he told them their biblical story of Amalek, the “god approved” genocide of women and children.

            Netanyahu telling the IDF what to do in Gaza.

            1. VULGAR MADMAN   1 year ago

              Why can’t you apply the; “final solution” to yourself?

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                Like Jews are doing to Palestinians in Gaza?

                1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                  No such “final solution” exists--the Jews have not committed such a thing. Now scram and never come back.

                  1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                    Jews whose religious zealotry leads them to believe they are “gods chosen people” are clearly delusional.

                    A Jewish zealots argument on the subject…

                    ““It is clearly written in Genesis. God tells Abraham that God will “bless those who bless you”. He further states that he will “curse those who curse you””

                    Well, that settles it. Jews can get away with murder.

                    Not!

            2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

              And nothing in the Bible from Genesis to the time of David and Solomon is corroborated by evidence from Anthropology, Archeology, Biology, Cosmology, or any extra-biblical source of History.

              A man who professes to support intellectual honesty and who supposedly wants to outlaw lying would question his sources better.

              But then, questioning things is not a big trait with Aryan Pure Supermen, so...

              Fuck Off, Nazi!

              1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                You're deeply mistaken about Jewish history:
                https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B083G65RZ7/reasonmagazinea-20/

                You're no better than Rob. Lose the hypocrisy.

          2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Jews and everyone else can celebrate Life and Liberty without adhering to mythology and indeed, people are better equipped to uphold these values when they exercise their faculty of Reason.

            And Herr Misek denies the reality of horrors and atrocities experienced by actual human beings living today and would outlaw and imprison all who disagree with his delusion.

            That is decidedly not me. Please try to keep up.

            1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

              The reason why we have Jews today is because of their ancestors' unwavering belief in that so-called "mythology" (and there's good reason to believe it's not so). Many of their values carried over to Christianity, which tenet of theism was influential to the Declaration of Independence's statement that everyone is "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Take that away, and everything is permitted, as Dostoevsky stated.

              The Syrian Greek king Antiochus IV attempted to eliminate that so-called "mythology", like what you want for the Jews. You know what that resulted when they did the same to other groups like the Ammonites, Moabites, Edomites, etc.? They're gone! No more. Completely assimilated by other groups.

              And so you want the Jews to be completely assimilated like they were. For the Jews to no longer be Jews. That is antisemitic.

              I will state it again: you're no better than Rob, and mtrueman for that matter. Lose your antisemitism.

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                “ you’re no better than Rob”

                Neither of you have refuted anything that I’ve said. You’re just not up to the task.

                You say that Jews who oppose Israeli genocide in Gaza hate themselves.

                They do hate the genocidal apartheid actions of the state of Israel and that requires at minimum the recognition of ethics, human rights and a clear distinction between right and wrong.

                Something else you lack.

    2. R Mac   1 year ago

      Christ is King!

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        He has to exist first to be a King, Mr. Agnostic.
        🙂
        😉

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          You're pathetic, you really are. Even your fellow atheist are tired of your schtick.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Can anything I say be more lame than Antisemitism from college-educated punks?

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              Yes, someon who has to prosetylsize their anti-theism every day and anti-religious bigotry while pretending to be enlightened. Hypocrites like you are the worst. 'im not a bigot but will degrade anything religious with any excuse I can come up with' this is you.

            2. Zeb   1 year ago

              I don't know about more. But it does get fairly obnoxious. And I say this as an atheist, or at least very strong agnostic, myself.

        2. R Mac   1 year ago

          Sorry, but not surprised, you didn’t get the joke.

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            >>Christ is King!

            you are so fired.

          2. Square = Circle   1 year ago

            Religious fanatics have no sense of humor, as a general rule.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

              Anyone even remotely adjacent to someone who thinks “flying spaghetti monster” is clever has no sense of humor, as a general rule.

              1. MK Ultra   1 year ago

                Pastafarians are even more insufferable than pot-as-lifestyle, suburban Rastas.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  If anti-theists are the vegans of philosophy, Pastafarians are the equivalent of vegan Fruitarians.

        3. Truthfulness   1 year ago

          Here, read this:
          https://owlcation.com/humanities/Why-the-Christ-Myth-Theory-is-Problematic

          The author is by no means an adherent or ally of Christianity, and he finds the concept of a non-existent Jesus problematic. Stop thinking it's the truth.

          1. BigT   1 year ago

            There are contemporaneous historical accounts that support Jesus being a big deal. See Josephus

    3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Don't worry, dear Fist. It's not genocide if the Hebrew Israelites were always in Canaan and never had an Exodus from Egypt.

      Passover is just another reason to say: "Somebody tried to kill us, we got over, let's eat!". Hell, Jews can do that--and actually do that--any given day!
      🙂
      😉

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

        You can also retire your lame shtick any day, but dont

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          The really sad thing is he thinks he's not a bigot or a religious fanatic (although by his own admission he prosetylsize his atheism almost as much as a Jehova Witness does their faith). He also mistakingly believes he's clever.

          1. Square = Circle   1 year ago

            I even once asked him whether he could point me to any literature laying out his core doctrines and whether there was some institution he could connect me with from which I could learn more or where I could even join a community of correct-thinking people and rather than see the irony of my question he simply provided me with some texts and some contacts.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              So can we label him an Atheist Witness?

              1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                Pardon me, folks, but I just got back in from a fun, sunny, cool Afternoon!

                I spent it using Goof Off™, Fast Orange™, alcohol-based hand sanitizer, and an ice scraper to get religious stickers and gangland graffiti off of city lamp posts and utility boxes.

                Matthew 24 and Revelation 14: 6-11 are no match for wonderful products of Reason, Science, and Enlightenment Industrial Revolution. I hope I got it down before some poor, impressionable kid read the passages and got scared to death.

                And potential inmates on our streets–74 percent identifying as Christian and 15 percent identifying as Muslim–have one less marking for their territory.

                To answer your question…Nah. There’s nothing to witness.

                And I don’t have to go door-to-door when all I want to do is scrape off and rub out insignias of superstition and thuggery.

                1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                  I didn't ask your opinion, and your entire screed you just posted was about as clever as my dog barking at a sound she heard on TV.

                  1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                    Or possibly only as clever as my dog barking at her own reflection in the glass.

                2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                  And yes, you're in a haze, but it isn't caused by alcohol, it's baseline for you.

                  1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                    I just took down vandalism that you evidently would accept as a normal part of this "veil-of-tears" world. The alcohol-based hand sanitizer was only one experimental means to the end, which I do not huff recreationally.

                    I am all-too-clear-headed in what I did. If I can get some citrus anti-vandalism cleaner by the bucket or case, I'll be using it more. A fresh scent is a great bonus to preserving a little piece of civilization.

                    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      You've done nothing to show that you're anything but a massive hypocrite. Now bugger off.

            2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

              So you got what your asked for and, for your "irony," you got what you deserved. Win-win-win, I'd say.
              🙂
              😉

              1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                Because you completely lack self awareness you would think that.

              2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                And the smiley face thing is just, as the kids say today, cringe. Or as we said in my day, totally lame dude.

                1. Stuck in California   1 year ago

                  The cringey smiley face thing got him muted.

                  I mean, the bizarre compulsion to spin everything to his anti-theism meant I didn't miss anything vs just ignoring him, but having a macro to add weird characters to every post -- on REASON, of all places -- is just too much.

                  1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                    He reminds me of that kid that used to hang out with the cool kids and tries way to hard to be cool, but they only keep him around to laugh at, but he thinks he's part of the group.

                  2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                    His creeping on Liz has about earned a mute from me.

                    1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                      It's not subtle, it's not clever and it's just uncomfortable.

                  3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                    So Reason--either the faculty or the title of a magazine-- cannot include smiles?

                    And smiles cannot be functional and help a person keep up with their posts in vast seas of trolling, back-biting, and bullshit?

                    I pity you for your lack of imagination and resourcefulness. Small wonder you are still Stuck In California.

                    By the bye:
                    🙂
                    😉

                    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      harr harr

              3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                You really are not even close to being as clever as you think you are. It's pretty pathetic actually. Even when you aren't being an insufferable bore with your constant need to inform everyone of your atheism, your attempt at humor is rather puerile.

  2. Minadin   1 year ago

    Police cleared out the NYU anti-semite occupiers last night.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      FIFY: “Police cleared out the NYU Nazi occupiers last night.”

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Do you think Misek was there?

        1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

          Maybe. Or jetking off to the footage.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Eeeeew! Now I'm gonna need an IV of Brain Bleach!
            🙁
            🙂
            😉

      2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

        I recall, not that long ago, how it is perfectly ok to "punch a nazi in the face".

        We are long overdue.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          It's (D)ifferent now. The problem is the Jews being uppity, not the working class being uppity.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            The Jews are acting white!

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            After decades of pushing the false narratives of KKK and nazis being on the right, we have these leftist activists promoting antisemitism and segregation. Almost like the narrative was always false.

            1. HorseConch   1 year ago

              I've been told by countless correct thinkers that they switched sides before I was born and the D's are no longer the party of the KKK and Jim Crow.

              1. R Mac   1 year ago

                Turd lies.

              2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                That one always amazed me, because only one Southern member switched sides, and he was the one who had a black kid. The rest, including all those who filibustered the Civil Rights Act, stayed Democrats until the day they died.

                1. HorseConch   1 year ago

                  You would think Obama and Biden attending Byrd's funeral would be sufficient to remind us.

                2. KARtikeya   1 year ago

                  Because it’s the Republicans who are trying to remove Confederate monuments and place names today? and Democrats are the ones upset about it?

                  "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either.” - Trent Lott

                  The socially conservative voters in the south switched to the GOP as it became more socially conservative and the dems less. You social conservatives can keep telling yourself it isn’t true, but that doesn’t make it true

                  You only look more foolish you repeat that same tired lies Dinesh…

                  1. KARtikeya   1 year ago

                    * You social conservatives can keep telling yourself it isn’t true, but that doesn’t make it NOT true

                    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      But here’s the thing: those you call “social conservatives” are right. There was no massive amount of records back in the 60’s of people switching from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

                      There was never a movement by Republicans back then to remove any statues. They recognized that history is not something that should be clouded with the lens of presentism, and definitely should not be hidden or censored. That history led Democrats to implement the Jim Crow laws, but it also includes the massive reconciliation and healing between certain members of the Union and former Confederacy.

                      This view on history has been consistent throughout the Republican Party’s history. If our forebears can make amends after a big conflict, why can’t we? Erasing history doesn’t do this.

                      Your anecdote doesn’t change this fact. Your apology continues to be insincere due to your continued lies about Republicans and other perceived enemies of yours. Enough.

                    2. KARtikeya   1 year ago

                      I apologized to a specific person about specific things I had said. How does disagreeing with different people make my apology insincere?

                      “There was never a movement by Republicans back then to remove any statues.”

                      I thought that I was clear that I was being sarcastic with my remark, but sorry if I wasn’t clear enough.

                      TODAY it’s mostly democrats trying to remove Confederate statues and place names. It’s Republicans and social conservatives trying to stop removal. That’s because the people who implemented Jim Crow and erected those statues and place names today are overwhelmingly republican today.

                      Also removing statues and monuments to the confederacy isn’t “erasing” history. We can study and learn from history while not glorifying and commemorating people/events that we recognize are problematic today.

              3. PeteRR   1 year ago

                My go-to reply has always been,

                As the South became less racist and more tolerant, it also became more Republican.

            2. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

              Remember the narrative, if the protest is from the Rught, Jews are victims and such is intolerable racism. When protest comes from the Left, Jews are white oppressors of brown folks who desrve collective punishment.

        2. Think It Through   1 year ago

          The Jews are the Nazis now.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

            It falls in line with peace is war, freedom is slavery.

          2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Herr Misek seems to think so.

        3. damikesc   1 year ago

          Well, we have been getting daily Charlottesvilles for months now.

        4. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          These college morons are the SA and will be used only until the true party hard liners decide it’s time for The Night of the Long Knives part deux. Their fate will be the result of their own (celebrated at times) historical ignorance.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Or should I say The Night of the Long Knives part zwei?

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      The police allowed them to remain until 4 hours after videod assaults. They were forced into clearing them only after hours of disruption. Those arrested included NYU professors.

  3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    Yeah you can't expect ivy league students to not be nazis can you?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      It's either that or they act like inner party communists.

      1. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

        Potato, potahto

    2. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      They do seem to be the source of most of our race obsession and central control and planning these days.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Luckily due to the name on the degree and ivy league nepotism at major businesses, these folks are well situated in ESG and DEI obsessed corporate boards.

    3. Nobartium   1 year ago

      Not for nothing, but the Nazi part did indeed thank American ivy Leaguers for policy inspiration.

      Nothing has changed since.

    4. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      Generally speaking, I expect Ivy League students to be Nazis.

  4. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

    "She had no idea she would end up suspended, homeless, and left without food within a matter of days,

    Too stupid to be in college.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      She didn’t fall far from the tree in that regard.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        Incest is rough on the offspring.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Or just another self-declared victim of white patriarchal oppression. Which is the same as stupid.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

      She fucked around. Unfortunately, she's a congresscritter's spawn so she won't actually find out, sob story not withstanding. Mommie will bail her worthless ass out and she'll back to fucking around some more in no time.

      1. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

        Is Jihad Spice her mom or her aunt, or both?

        1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

          Omar’s daughter has her uncle’s nose! So pretty!!

          1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

            I was looking to see if anyone would make the joke that her parents are siblings (Ilhan did marry her brother, after all--whether for immigration reasons, or because she finds him sexy, who knows). They say the offspring of incest can have mental and physical deficiencies, after all. Seems to check out.

        2. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

          Jihad Spice

          BWAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm gonna have to remember that one.

    4. R Mac   1 year ago

      I almost feel a tiny bit sorry for these people. In 2020 this type of behavior was not just allowed but celebrated because the target was the enemy. Now they’re going after a protected class and it’s no longer acceptable. Very confusing to emotionally stunted useful idiots.

    5. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      It is not as if her mother is powerful member of Congress with a six figure official salary, and who knows how much income from graft, and therefore cannot afford to prevent her daughter from freezing or starving.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        starving

        Again, since when? I get that you get kicked out of your dorm and that's disorienting, but if procuring your own food is a troubling life obstacle, your parents started failing you well before college.

        1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

          My post above was sarcasm.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            The Daily Beast wasn't being sarcastic.

          2. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Yeah, as soldiermedic indicates. I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just puzzling about how, in your 20s, getting kicked out of school = starve.

            Fired from every place of employment and blacklisted from every public accommodation? OK, starve fits. Fell off a cliff and broke both legs? OK, starve fits. Barred from one part of the community whose primary purpose isn't even food service? Uh... if your primary concern getting kicked out of school is your dwelling and your food, unless maybe you were studying culinary arts, you were doing school wrong to begin with.

    6. mad.casual   1 year ago

      The "without food for a matter of days" part made me guffaw. Like you're persecuted for having to go to the grocery store every few days, or worse, LIKE THE ENTIRE REST OF THE PLANET.

    7. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

      Doesn’t she have a brother she can marry or something? That seems to have solved a lot of problems for her mom.

  5. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

    ...as if they were Jonestown cultists.

    Wait, they are not?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      We can't know for certain until the next juice break.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      If only. The Jonestown marxists actually did humanity a favor and killed themselves.

  6. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    Lillian Omar and her entire family deserve to be executed. If her child starves to death the world would be a better place

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      No, but they definitely deserve not to be reelected.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Can we compromise, and just deport them?

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          She did commit immigration fraud marrying her brother.

        2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          Imagine that. Those people telling Jews to go back where they came from.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

            You mean Isreal?
            Illian Omar's nig family came to the US because her shit father was a war criminal who ran a gulag. He came to the US to avoid being killed by the families of the people he tortured and killed.
            There is not a single Omar that deserves life

            1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

              Ok. I’ve never had. Huge problem with the idea of sending Marxists to a screaming death.

            2. KARtikeya   1 year ago

              “Illian Omar’s nig family”

              Fuck off you white trash scumbag

              1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                He's not "white", in case you didn't know.

                1. KARtikeya   1 year ago

                  Even if he isn’t white his comment is still reprehensible.

                  I find it hard to believe kuckland isn’t white as well.

  7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'For those who've just tuned in, the pro-Palestine tent city encampment at Columbia—and several other universities across the country—keeps getting razed and then resurrected.'

    Just like Gaza!

    I look forward to the situation at Columbia in a few years, when the designated (pro-)Palestinian enclave has 5 story concrete buildings, partially in ruin, and is surrounded by a security fence. And when various parties contribute aid but nobody wants the (pro-)Palestinian people in their territory.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Lol

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart says the Arab nations have a "dirty little secret" that might explain why they aren't granting Palestinian refugees citizenship in their own countries.

      Stewart was interviewing journalist Christiane Amanpour about the Israel-Hamas war when he ripped Arab states like Jordan for being too passive about Palestinians' plight.

      "Look, they're all terrified of Hamas and Hezbollah," Stewart told Amanpour on Monday's episode.

      "The dirty little secret over there is the Islamists that they helped foster through madrasahs and all those other actions, they're scared shitless of," Stewart said. "They just are."

      There's truth in that, but it goes back well before the more modern concept of Islamic terrorism. Since the creation of Israel in 1948, everywhere Palestinians went, they brought war and chaos. There's a good reason why the Egyptian border with Gaza (a former Egyptian holding) is at least as well fortified as the Gaza/Israel border. Egypt is desperate to keep Palestinians out of Egypt (having survived the Muslim Brotherhood's rise to power and subsequent overthrow).

      Black September - Wikipedia

      After the 1967 Six-Day War, Palestinian fedayeen guerrillas relocated to Jordan and stepped up their attacks against Israel and what had become the Israeli-occupied West Bank. They were headquartered at the Jordanian border town of Karameh, which Israel targeted during the Battle of Karameh in 1968, leading to a surge of Arab support for the fedayeen. The PLO's strength grew, and by early 1970, leftist groups within the PLO began calling for the overthrow of Jordan's Hashemite monarchy, leading to violent clashes in June 1970. Hussein hesitated to oust them from the country, but continued PLO activities in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings of 6 September 1970. This involved the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) seizing three civilian passenger flights and forcing their landing in the Jordanian city of Zarqa, where they took foreign nationals as hostages and blew up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw and ordered the Jordanian Army to take action.[10]

      On 17 September 1970, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with a significant PLO presence, including Amman and Irbid, and began targeting fedayeen posts that were operating from Palestinian refugee camps. The next day, 10,000 Syrian troops bearing Palestine Liberation Army (PLA) markings began an invasion by advancing towards Irbid, which the fedayeen had occupied and declared to be a "liberated" city. On 22 September, the Syrians withdrew from Irbid after suffering heavy losses to a coordinated aerial–ground offensive by the Jordanians. Mounting pressure from other Arab countries, such as Iraq, led Hussein to halt his offensive. On 13 October, he signed an agreement with Arafat to regulate the fedayeen's presence in Jordan. However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971, and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 surrendered after they were encircled during the Ajlun offensive on 23 July, formally marking the end of the conflict.[11]

      Jordan allowed the fedayeen to relocate to Lebanon via Syria, where they later became involved in the Lebanese Civil War. The Palestinian Black September Organization was founded after the conflict to carry out attacks against Jordanian authorities in response to the fedayeen's expulsion; their most notable attack was the assassination of Jordanian prime minister Wasfi Tal in 1971, as he had commanded parts of the military operations against the fedayeen. The following year, the organization shifted its focus to attacking Israeli targets and carried out the Munich massacre against Israeli athletes.

      Lebanese Civil War - Wikipedia

      The diversity of the Lebanese population played a notable role in the lead-up to and during the conflict: Christians and Sunni Muslims comprised the majority in the coastal cities; Shia Muslims were primarily based throughout all of southern Lebanon and the Beqaa Valley in the east; and Druze and Christians populated the country's mountainous areas. At the time, the Lebanese government was running under the significant influence of elites within the Maronite Christian community.[7][8] The link between politics and religion had been reinforced under the French Mandate from 1920 to 1943, and the country's parliamentary structure favoured a leading position for Lebanese Christians, who constituted the majority of Lebanon's population. However, the country's Muslim minority was still relatively large, and the influx of thousands of Palestinians—first in 1948 and again in 1967—contributed to Lebanon's demographic shift towards an eventual Muslim majority. Lebanon's Christian-dominated government had been facing increasing levels of opposition from Muslims, pan-Arabists, and a number of left-wing groups. To this end, the Cold War exerted a disintegrative effect on the country, closely linked to the political polarization that preceded the 1958 Lebanese crisis. Christians mostly sided with the Western world while Muslims, pan-Arabists, and leftists mostly sided with Soviet-aligned Arab countries.

      During the 1960s Lebanon was relatively calm, but this would soon change. Fatah and other Palestinian Liberation Organization factions had long been active among the 400,000 Palestinian refugees in Lebanese camps. Throughout the 1960s, the center for armed Palestinian activities had been in Jordan, but they were forced to relocate after being evicted by King Hussein during the Black September in Jordan. Fatah and other Palestinian groups had attempted to mount a coup in Jordan by incentivizing a split in the Jordanian army, something that the ANM had attempted to do a decade earlier by Nasser's bidding. Jordan, however, responded and expelled the forces into Lebanon. When they arrived they created "a State within the State". This action was not welcomed by the Lebanese government and this shook Lebanon's fragile sectarian climate.

      Solidarity to the Palestinians was expressed through the Lebanese Sunni Muslims but with the aim to change the political system from one of consensus amongst different sects, towards one where their power share would increase. Certain groups in the Lebanese National Movement wished to bring about a more secular and democratic order, but as this group increasingly included Islamist groups, encouraged to join by the PLO, the more progressive demands of the initial agenda was dropped by January 1976. Islamists did not support a secular order in Lebanon and wished to bring about rule by Muslim clerics. These events, especially the role of Fatah and the Tripoli Islamist movement known as Tawhid, in changing the agenda being pursued by many groups, including Communists. This ragtag coalition has often been referred to as left-wing, but many participants were actually very conservative and had religious elements that did not share any broader ideological agenda; rather, they were brought together by the short-term goal of overthrowing the established political order, each motivated by their own grievances.

      These forces enabled the PLO / Fatah (Fatah constituted 80% of the membership of the PLO and Fatah guerrillas controlled most of its institutions now) to transform the Western Part of Beirut into its stronghold. The PLO had taken over the heart of Sidon and Tyre in the early 1970s, it controlled great swathes of south Lebanon, in which the indigenous Shiite population had to suffer the humiliation of passing through PLO checkpoints and now they had worked their way by force into Beirut. The PLO did this with the assistance of so-called volunteers from Libya and Algeria shipped in through the ports it controlled, as well as a number of Sunni Lebanese groups who had been trained and armed by PLO/ Fatah and encouraged to declare themselves as separate militias. However, as Rex Brynen makes clear in his publication on the PLO, these militias were nothing more than "shop-fronts" or in Arabic "Dakakin" for Fatah, armed gangs with no ideological foundation and no organic reason for their existence save the fact their individual members were put on PLO/ Fatah payroll.

      After its foundation, the PLA came to be used as political cover by its host governments, especially Syria. In course of the Black September of 1970, hastily repainted Syrian Army tanks under the command of the PLA were sent into Jordan to aid the Palestinian guerrillas against the Jordanian Armed Forces,[6] probably with the ultimate aim to overthrow the Jordanian monarchy.[9] Although the initial invasion was successful, with PLA forces capturing Irbid and declaring it a "liberated" city,[9] the Jordanian military eventually managed to stall the attack in course of heavy fighting.[10] After international pressure, and threats of intervention from both Israel and the United States, the combined PLA-Syrian forces were forced to turn back; an embarrassment which would contribute greatly to the overthrow of the government of Salah Jadid by Hafez al-Assad. The failure of the invasion has also attributed to the fact that the Syrian Air Force under al-Assad had refused to enter the fighting in the first place.[11]

      PLA units saw action during the Yom Kippur War in 1973, fighting both at the Syrian and Egyptian fronts.[8] From 1973, the PLA effectively became part of the Syrian Army.[7]

      During the Lebanese Civil War, Syria likewise made extensive use of the PLA as a proxy force, including against the PLO (the PLA however proved unreliable when ordered to fight other Palestinians, and suffered from mass defections).[12] In this conflict, it acted alongside the as-Sa'iqa faction of the PLO to support Syrian interests.[13] Already deployed from 1975 in Lebanon, the PLA acted as cover for the Syrian Armed Forces during the start of the Syrian occupation of Lebanon in 1976, as invading Syrian soldiers were dressed in PLA uniforms.[6] The PLA and as-Sa'iqa offered protection during the 1976 Lebanese presidential election, helping Élias Sarkis in getting elected as President of Lebanon.[13] Overall, the PLA proved to be relatively ineffective in Lebanon.[12] The PLA was largely destroyed as a fighting force during the 1982 Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon that started the 1982 Lebanon War. Its fighters in Lebanon left for Tunis when the PLO evacuated Beirut that year, in a US-sponsored cease fire agreement. The Egyptian PLA was also deployed in Lebanon in 1976, after Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat had approached the Egyptian president Anwar Sadat, to mend relations damaged by Sadat's peacemaking attempts with Israel. Still, the Egyptian units never proved as important as the fully deployed Syrian PLA. In 1991, the first commander-in-chief of the PLA Maj. Gen. Wajih Al Madani died.

      Many PLA soldiers in Egypt and Jordan later became the core of the Palestinian Authority's (PNA) National Guard, after the signing of the 1993 Oslo Accords, when they were allowed to enter the Palestinian Territories to take up positions in the PNA security services.[14]

      Syrian Civil War[edit]
      The Syrian PLA remains active, closely coordinated with as-Sa'iqa, although the importance of both had diminished over the years. The PLA has been rebuilt and Palestinians in Syria are still drafted to perform their military service in its ranks. Though completely staffed by Palestinians, it remains outside of the PLO's control, and is in effect integrated into the Syrian Army. Nevertheless, it poses as an independent entity, and occasionally organizes pro-government rallies celebrating Syrian commitment to the Palestinian cause.[15]

      1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

        True. The Palestinians’ are scum. Always have been. I suspect the leaders of all the other Arab states secretly hope that Israel really does wipe them out.

        1. Think It Through   1 year ago

          So are black criminals. So are DEI proponents who want to eradicate all standards and objectivity. Hm maybe there is something in common with those the left champions. Maybe there's even a characterization for The Left in general.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          I don't think it's so much "secretly" as "not willing to admit publicly".

        3. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

          If the kidnapped Israeli women abort their rape babies then they are the true monsters!

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Most are already dead you moron. And they killed almost all the women they gang raped on October 7th, some they mutilated and killed while they were being raped repeatedly. Thank you for proving you're basically scum and a moron.

            1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

              Correct, a Netenyahu has killed a lot of the hostages just as Bush killed more Americans than Osama Bin Laden…but some of the hostages are still alive and being raped. We must protect the rape babies from being exterminated as they are innocent in all of this bloodshed.

              1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                Go goose-step somewhere else Herr Dummkopf.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        The whole "Palesitine will be free" chant is a joke in and of itself. That area, including Israel, prior to 1948 hadn't been an independent state since the Maccabean revolt. Prior to that, it was a vassal for Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and the Seluecids for pretty much its entire existence except for the Davidian period when the Hebrews were battling various Canaanite and Philistine tribes for control of the area.

        1. Square = Circle   1 year ago

          That area, including Israel, prior to 1948 hadn’t been an independent state since the Maccabean revolt.

          And even that was more a failure of the Greeks than a success of the Judeans.

        2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          You forgot the Byzantines, Romans, and Crusader states.

          1. markm23   1 year ago

            The Crusader states were the closest the area has been to independence since 73 AD: dependent on continuing military aid from Europe but not ruled from Europe. Before 73 AD and back to the return from the Babylonian captivity in the 6th century BC, it was a Jewish nation, usually paying tribute to one or another empire but ruling itself internally because wise emperors did not trifle with minor details. Before the Babylonian captivity, the region was a bunch of warring city-states and wandering tribes, which gradually coalesced into ancient Israel and Judea. (There is no archeological evidence supporting slavery in Egypt, an influx of Hebrews from Egypt, or anything else in the Bible before the invasion of Greek pirates called "Philistines".)

      3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Great post there! I still think your handle should be Frontal Lobes.
        🙂
        😉
        I also highly recommend reading The PLO: The Rise and Fall of The Palestine Liberation Organization by Jillian Becker.

        One interesting thing she pointed out is that Lebanon was paralyzed in standing against the PLO and other terrorist groups because Lebanon’s government had religious tests for government positions, including Prime Minister and Parliamentary membership. Also, the PLO’s stranglehold on Lebanon made the nation a magnet for terrorist groups far from the Middle East e.g, IRA, ETA Basque Separatists, Red Army Brigades, Neo-Nazis, etc.

        Jillian Becker also famously wrote on the Baader-Meinhof Gang in Germany and has an impressive set of credentials in Conservative/Libertarian circles! See her Wiki page for more:

        Jillian Becker–Wikipedia
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jillian_Becker

    3. Scooter   1 year ago

      "Hope is a good thing. The best of things."

  8. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    (Several sitting senators have called for the National Guard to be sent in to break up protests, which is surely overkill.)

    Someone should remind them that the last time a National Guard went to a campus, they managed to shoot and kill a ROTC member, one of the very people they were sent to help.

    1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      I would note the National Guard in the 1960s is a far different critter than the modern Guard, which is better trained, more professional and better armed, as well as more experience dropping bodies for the last couple decades, right along with the active duty. But, your point is a good one about what happens when you use combat troops for police duties.

      1. markm23   1 year ago

        Part of the problem at Kent State was that these National Guard were NOT combat troops. Combat troops wouldn't have missed all but two of the rioters close enough to throw a rock (whether or not they actually threw a rock), while shooting uninvolved students up to 750 feet away. Combat troops would either have held their fire or eliminated the threat; there might still have been stray shots killing across the campus (overkill saves _our_ lives, and they didn't issue select fire rifles to encourage the troops to pick their shots), but there would have been far more than 4 dead up close.

        The NG may be a credible military reserve force now. Back then, they were a rabble of young men privileged enough to legally get out of front-line service.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    But new video keeps emerging showing the treatment Jews on campus are facing, and it…does not make the protesters look good.

    You know who else’s reputation suffered under actual scrutiny?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Gary Hart?

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        Donna Rice forever.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      The Wizard of Oz?

    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Reason editors?

    4. Chupacabra   1 year ago

      Sabrina Erdely?

    5. Anomalous   1 year ago

      Elizabeth Holmes?

      1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

        John Holmes?

        1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

          Fagabeefe??

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Joan Jett?

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        doesn't give a damn.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

          But she did love Rock and Roll.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

            I thought that was rocky road.
            (ducks)

            1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

              It looked like a douche but for the rumor in the night.

              1. Dillinger   1 year ago

                Bingo Jed had a light on.

              2. Square = Circle   1 year ago

                The beautiful thing about that song is that it makes no sense even if you do know the words - I think that's what Manfred "do-wah-diddy" Mann liked about it.

          2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

            And hated herself….

            1. Dillinger   1 year ago

              loving me can do that.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                But she loved playin' with fire.

    7. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

      Rachel Dolezal?

    8. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      Penn State's football coaching staff?

    9. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      USA gymnastics?

    10. Minadin   1 year ago

      Chef Boyardee?

  10. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

    "How some people make $70,000 as Manhattan restaurant-reservation middlemen."

    Try getting a reservation at Dorsia now you f****** stupid b******!

  11. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    Hey Liz, please tell me you are aware the trial against Trump is a sham trial.

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      Aware, cares or thinks it's a bad thing are three very different questions.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    In the absence of capable leadership, relegate students to remote learning—an unserious, worse form of teaching that could surely be gotten for cheaper than Columbia tuition.

    Remote learning should be reserved for the most severe cases of loss of control in an election year.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      What about remote voting?

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Only if you're too dead to make it to the polls.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          In which case, a Democrat will happily fill out your ballot for you.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            At least once, if not more. Classic Chicago style voting since at least the 1950s.

  13. JesseAz   1 year ago

    In a bit of good news AZ rancher found not guilty of killing migrant. Jury was 7-1 not guilty. Prosecution tried to use a multiple time deported migrant who was essentially their entire evidence. The jury went to the ranch and realized the witness was lying as his description of the scene didn't match up at all. Will see if the activist prosecutors try again.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/judge-declares-mistrial-case-arizona-rancher-charged-murder-mexican-national-border-property

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      It's an illegal not a migrant

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      Correction, he wasn't found not guilty. A mistrial was declared. Significant difference. Like you said, prosecutors can try him again.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Restorative/social/migrant justice requires the correct verdict.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          I understand why guilty verdicts have to be unanimous, but I don't understand why not guilty ones have to be. Maybe for not guilty you should only need a simple majority.

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            As long as we aren't sentencing people, unanimously convicted of guilt, to death by a 9-3 split decision, that's all that matters.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Went with the majority as most prosecutors won't try again when the jury is so one sided. But again, these prosecutors are pretty left.

        1. Kyol   1 year ago

          I suspect that they'll go for a second trial. Even if the second jury acquits him in five minutes and the foreman publicly cusses out the prosecutor for bringing charges to begin with, they can double the man's legal fees and make an example out of him in terms of pure financial ruination, if not prison time.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'What is happening at Columbia?'

    Almost close to full retard, by another hyper-progressive US liberal faction. Which I hope means close to progressive implosion and and least temporary rejection by more main stream left-leaning Americans.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Which I hope means close to progressive implosion and and least temporary rejection by more main stream left-leaning Americans.

      Like I've pointed out before, this slapfight over Israel and the descendants of Middle Eastern sandbillies is really nothing more than an argument between different factions of leftists over who has a higher place on the progressive stack. Left-wing American Jews simply aren't used to being so openly included with the evil white people they've been winding up everyone against in American culture for the last 60 years.

      1. Think It Through   1 year ago

        This is the point. Campuses doing ANYTHING to move against leftist occupiers was not happening, until the targeted group was another left-ish group (Jews). What if all these protesters were doing the exact same things in acting against "whites" or "the West" instead of explicitly Jews (who, in no coincidence, provide a lot of money to these schools)? The campus administrators would be providing cookies and milk and talking about the long tradition of protest.

        It's just another example of which ox is being gored.

      2. middlefinger   1 year ago

        Columbia on fire and NYC (for decades) is what it looks like when people who own things, or would like to own things, get into bed with people who think individuals owning things is greedy and genocidal (Collectivists), minus all the subsidy grifters playing in the middle or both sides. For votes

        50 shades of left.

    2. Minadin   1 year ago

      I'm very glad I decided not to accept their offer for undergraduate enrollment. Though, I hope it was slightly less retarded 25 years ago.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Haven't you had enough New York today? Haven't you gotten your fix?

    Schadenfreude ain't just a river in Egypt.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      I apologize, sir, for duplicating your witticism.

  16. JesseAz   1 year ago

    In a shock to nobody, palestine protestors on campuses are funded by left wing groups including Soros.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2974413/major-columbia-protest-organizers-left-wing-donors/

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      So pali-nazis being funded by an actual Nazi.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        It's (D)ifferent. Unlike all the other teenagers aiding the resistance, he could have been in real danger.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          It really is a real time examination of the youth SS or Maos young red guard. The blind chanting is just creepy.

      2. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

        What a shock. I'd show you my shocked face but it's permanently broken.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Prosecutors claim that former President Donald Trump has violated his gag order...

    That gag order was entrapment.

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Imagine being told you can’t point out publicly that the judge is compromised and has already written invective against you and that his daughter works for the political opponents who are trying to arrest you.
      Even Soviet show trails weren’t this blatant.

      A banana republic, if you can keep it.

      1. Rockstevo   1 year ago

        A legal question, if the NY judge does impose penalties could this be the justification for Trump to take this to a Federal judge and have a restraining order placed on the NY Judge for violations of his 1st amendments rights? Or even put a hold on the trial until he can rule?

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          An do better than that. File for Deprivation of Rights which if I remember can become a capital offense. It is what Jack Smith did.

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          That's my question. If the judge actually imposes sanctions it seems Trump will have standing to file an interlocatory appeal of the gag order. But I'm not a lawyer.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Is that a banana in your republic, or are you just excited about the idea of locking up Trump?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          If it’s trans, it might be both.

          1. HorseConch   1 year ago

            Who doesn't get excited about some Tuesday morning LadyBanana?

  18. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Last week, the universities—both Columbia and Barnard, which partners with Columbia and basically functions as an undergraduate college of the university'

    Wasn't Barnard College the female-apartheid institution, back when we all knew what a woman was?

    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

      They let in men now…because so many women transitioned while at the Seven Sisters schools that they already had men on campus…I’m not joking.

  19. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'The daughter of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), Isra Hisi, was among those arrested. "She had no idea she would end up suspended, homeless, and left without food within a matter of days," according to The Daily Beast, which seemed to think the sob-story lens was the way to go.'

    The only way out is to marry her brother.

    1. HorseConch   1 year ago

      If your parents are siblings and you marry a sibling, does your family tree become a circle of incest?

      1. Zeb   1 year ago

        Not unless you can also travel back in time.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

        Imagine being from a culture that allows multiple wives and you still end up marrying your sister.

        Next level retards in that family, taylor made for congress.

        1. Zeb   1 year ago

          Allowing multiple wives is no guarantee that multiple, non-related women will be available.

      3. Minadin   1 year ago

        This is why I call her Omar's daughter/niece.

      4. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        You become a member of the Spanish Branch of the Hapsburgs.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          I could also have gone with a member of the Ptolemy Dynasty in Egypt.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The slow surveillance colonization of everyday electronics was normalized by free internet services...

    From the display port to the USB, my Dell will be free!

    1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Not if you use windows.
      Or any Google product.
      Or apple.

  21. JesseAz   1 year ago

    “And the kind of threats that you hear coming out of Donald Trump should scare every American,” Clinton, who lost to Trump in a surprise defeat in 2016, said during a Friday appearance on Democracy Docket’s Defending Democracy podcast,
    .
    “Because with an authoritarian, you never know what side of the bed they’ll wake up on, you never know who they’re going to be upset with today, you never know if somebody basically bribes them by giving business to a relative or some other gift, that they will try to destroy one business to advantage another,” she said, adding that they, too, do not “believe in the rule of law”
    .
    “They don’t believe in institutions and, therefore, if you give them a chance to be more unfettered than he was in his first term — when he was trying to figure out what he could do, and he had actually some people around who were restraining him — that is all going to be gone,” the failed presidential candidate continued, warning of the absence of the swamp.

    “If he ever gets back near the White House again, it will be like having a dictator, and I don’t say that lightly,” she added.

    Guess we now know what podcasts jeffsarc listen to.

    1. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

      “Because with an authoritarian, you never know what side of the bed they’ll wake up on, you never know who they’re going to be upset with today, you never know if somebody basically bribes them by giving business to a relative or some other gift, that they will try to destroy one business to advantage another,” she said, adding that they, too, do not “believe in the rule of law”

      Was she talking about Trump or herself?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        It seemed to me to be a metric fuckton of projection from Hillary.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      And everyone sat and listened to her with a straight face.

      It's not just the fact that the wicked witch is saying those things that's scary, but all the people who enable her to do so so.

    3. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Said the woman who actually did most of those things, and probably had people killed as well.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        As always, that's (D)ifferent.

      2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-condemns-trump-for-paying-hush-money-to-political-liabilities-instead-of-just-killing-them

    4. Super Scary   1 year ago

      If Hillary told me the sky was blue, I would go outside to check.

      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

        Hillary was never president…and yet your life didn’t improve.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Nice non sequitur. Got any more shit nuggets of wisdom?

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

            So sadz…just as you were getting over a bad case of Hillary Derangement Syndrome you came down with Biden Derangement Syndrome. Get well soon, but I hear the Gretchen Whitmer variant might be the worst of all of them!

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              Ah I get it, they let you have computer time at the group home you live in.

              1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                Get well, get well soon
                We want you to get well!!

                1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                  If you keep trying, eventually you'll get there.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Supreme Court to take up ghost gun case.

    That could go either way, but either way it goes it will be narrowly tailored and widely ignored, either by governments or the people.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      When they take the mask off the ghost gun they will realize it was old man withers from the abandoned amusement park all along

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        He would've gotten away with too, if it wasn't for those damn raccoon dogs!

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          US disallows adoption of racoon dogs.

          https://pethelpful.com/exotic-pets/raccoon-dog-tanuki-pet-legal

          Pandemic was fake.

    2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      I wish to exorcise my ghost gun rights!

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        From my cold, dead hands!

  23. JesseAz   1 year ago

    In order is all profit news..

    Chicago approves another 70M for illegals. On top of prior 150M spending.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-city-council-approves-70-million-migrant-care-despite-voter-backlash

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Blacks in Chiraq are pissed they have to share the dole with non-blacks.

    2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      You can buy a lot of food trucks with that kind of money

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Chicago can finally find out what a good hotdogs tastes like. Sonoran dogs > Chicago dogs.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          Never heard of Sonoran dogs. Now I looked it up and I want to try it, but I live in east coast BFE and probably not any within 250 miles. I still love me some Chicago dogs though.

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            Ever hear of a Cuban sandwich?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              I hear they’re unheard of in some parts of Maine.

            2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

              I have, and I've eaten plenty of them. When I lived in Atlanta, I discovered a little hole-in-the-wall hot dog & hamburger place owned by a very nice Korean family. It was situated most conveniently along my home from the golf course. The lady who owned it would see my car in the parking lot as I drove in and pretty much have my order ready for me: 2 Chicago dogs, fries, and drink. One time I thought I had lost my wallet and she said "It's ok, you're a good customer. You can pay later." (albeit with heavy Korean accent). I found my wallet in the depths of my golf bag after another search, but it was that kind of place. Sadly, they shut down that store when they wanted to semi-retire (they dropped from 2 stores to one closest to their own home, as I recall).

          2. R Mac   1 year ago

            Discovered them about a decade ago, make them myself several times every summer. They’re great.

        2. mad.casual   1 year ago

          Seems like a dish invented by someone who’s desperately trying too hard. Especially considering how the Chili Dog is already well known and well respected, it feels a bit like a psyop to push unbelievably new and diverse food truck cuisine. Nothing new or great was created and, really, you just destroyed a decent plate of nachos by putting it on a bun and/or ruined a decent hot dog by adding refried beans, salsa, and mayo.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            Don’t knock it till you try it.

            Edit: we prefer black beans to refried beans.

            1. mad.casual   1 year ago

              I've had a chili dog before.

              1. R Mac   1 year ago

                How about a coney? Flint or Detroit style?

                1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

                  In upstate NY...like Syracuse area...they have something called Hofmann's Snappy Grillers. Man, those are good.

                2. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                  I blew my friend’s mind when I explained coneys aren’t from Coney Island.

                3. mad.casual   1 year ago

                  All of the above up to and including in Thunder Bay. Never Detroit style in Detroit.

                  The idea that any one of them is the one, true Chili Dog or that they are clearly superior to Chicago-style hot dogs is like asserting Sweetest Day is better than Valentine’s Day or any other romantic holiday.

              2. Zeb   1 year ago

                There is room in this world for all varieties of hotdog toppings.

                A simple one that I am particularly fond of is just peanut butter and mustard. I don't even usually like the peanut/meat combo, but this just works somehow. Has to be a good, all beef dog.

                1. Dillinger   1 year ago

                  >>all varieties of hotdog toppings

                  crunchy peanut butter.

                  1. Zeb   1 year ago

                    Yes, crunchy peanut butter. And coarsely ground hot mustard.

                    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

                      word.

                2. R Mac   1 year ago

                  My wife makes a chocolate chili. It’s amazing on a dog with a sharp white cheddar sauce I make.

                3. mad.casual   1 year ago

                  I don't have a problem with peanut butter or twinky weiner sandwiches. My issue is with pretending like they're the greatest thing to happen to hot dogs since buns.

                  Next stop is people washing them down with warm beer on the rocks and supreme court justices who can't answer the question "What is a hot dog?"

                  1. Zeb   1 year ago

                    Maybe different people care about different things.

            2. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Black beans are the way.

              1. R Mac   1 year ago

                What do you use instead of cilantro?

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Just no cilantro or extra types of peppers.

    3. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

      Damn, I'm tired. I read that as Chicago approves 70M illegals. I mean it didn't surprise me at all

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'It's not clear what type of speech environment Columbia hopes to cultivate.'

    Really? Sure looks like they want to cater to whatever group shouts the loudest and thus cowers all previous groups (and the administration).

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Yeah, "whatever advances the marxist revolution" seems pretty fucking clear to me.

    2. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      no, just whatever group that is on the same team as the administration.

      If it were pro-life MAGAs out there camping out and protesting they'd be shot on sight.

      1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

        With a bunch of undercover feds egging them on.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Scenes from New York: Haven't you had enough New York today? Haven't you gotten your fix?'

    Are we talking schadenfreude or just heroin?

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      this is funny sorry it took me 7 hours to see it.

  26. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    lol

    https://www.newsweek.com/desantis-migrants-marthas-vineyard-visas-1892919

    The approximate four dozen migrants that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis helped fly from Texas to Martha's Vineyard about a year and a half earlier have been granted legal designations due to the Republican's crimes against the "victims."

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

      Hey remember that time the Democratic mayor of the quintessential Democratic city warned that unchecked immigration would "destroy" the city?

      Forcing sanctimonious Democrats to experience the consequences of their immigration rhetoric is one of the few smart things the otherwise worthless GOP has done in recent years.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Yes we know. "Pwning the libs" is the #1 priority.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Yes. Your hypocrisy and blatant double standards really do need to be pointed out frequently.

          Also, it's “Pwning the progs”, there's nothing liberal about your gentry class fascists.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          I’d guess you’d know something of the mirror of that as your whole schtick is the “pwn anyone to the right of Mao”.

        3. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

          What arrangement does The One True Libertarian prefer? Open borders ....... but Texas and Arizona absorb the vast majority?

          Sorry. The GOP is absolutely pathetic but on this one issue they have the right idea.

          Gallup: Immigration Surges to Top of Most Important Problem List

          Biden will probably win reelection, but it will be *despite* his handling of the border.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            Open borders ……. but Texas and Arizona absorb the vast majority?

            This is such a dishonest line of argumentation. News flash, Texas and Arizona are border states. No matter what border policy is implemented, border states are going to bear the brunt of the cost of that policy. If Trump gets his wall, where do you think the land is going to come from to build it all? The land that will, most likely, be stolen via eminent domain? That's right, Texas and Arizona and the rest of the border states.

            What would you like, for Texas and Arizona to magically not be border states anymore? I suppose the government could invade and annex Mexico. Then Texas and Arizona wouldn't be border states anymore. Is that what you want?

            Asking if Texas and Arizona should bear the brunt of the costs of immigration is like asking if Florida should bear the brunt of the costs of hurricanes, or if Minnesota should bear the brunt of the costs of blizzards. I suppose in some karmic sense "it's not fair", but I don't know what you think anyone ought to do about it other than try to wish those problems away.

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              Sandra: "What arrangement does The One True Libertarian prefer? Open borders ……. but Texas and Arizona absorb the vast majority?"

              Jeff: "This is such a dishonest line of argumentation."

              Jeff, literally the consecutive sentence after: "News flash, Texas and Arizona are border states.

              Absolutely fucking amazing.

              1. R Mac   1 year ago

                I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.

            2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

              I want people who have already traveled so many miles to get into the US, to travel a few more miles within the US and settle mainly in blue areas.

              And you know what? Progs should want that too if they really believe what they claim.

              They believe immigration is all upside, no downside? Then Democratic areas should be thrilled to welcome more immigrants. They believe the South is a racist Handmaid's Tale hellscape? Then for the immigrants' own benefit they're better off continuing to the more enlightened North. Or maybe West to California.

              But Dems don't care about immigrants as people any more than Charles Koch does. The enthusiasm for immigration into Texas is obviously based on their theory that importing "Brown" voters will flip Texas blue and give the party a lock on the Electoral College.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                If they’re as guilelessness and noble on issue as Jeffy claims, I would expect that these sanctuary states would being “rescuing” as many border jumpers as possible from those horrible border states.

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

              Asking if Texas and Arizona should bear the brunt of the costs of immigration is like asking if Florida should bear the brunt of the costs of hurricanes, or if Minnesota should bear the brunt of the costs of blizzards.

              Fuckin' LOL at you comparing your beloved open borders policy to a natural disaster.

              And even at that, those places have plans in place to account for their inevitability, and mitigate or repair the damage. There's acknowledged costs for inhabiting there. If only the states in the arid West treated their rivers the same way.

            4. Super Scary   1 year ago

              Is this the new talking point? Immigrants are just like weather?

              1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

                He thought about using bears in trunks, but then thought better of it.

                1. R Mac   1 year ago

                  Bears in trunks is just like snow lightning.

                2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                  Migrants in trunks as a metaphor for how disease is spread? Jeff the Chemist would get his nuts stomped on by his Proggy boos.

                  (Hint: they were going to do it anyway)

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Wonder what Dark Brandon has to say. Jeff will tell us.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Good to know you admire victimhood politics.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        He is a victim of every camera or set of stairs. Be nice.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          And the occasional bike.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        I am happy to learn that in this case, the people that your team didn't even bother to treat as human beings, only as pawns to play political games with, get to stay here completely legally.

        Even to this day, barely any of you even give a shit about the actual human lives impacted here. You have more people demanding machine guns at the border to shoot unarmed penniless Guatemalan migrants, than you have anyone wondering how the migrants' lives could be so bad that they would risk making such a perilous journey here.

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          How many penniless immigrants live in your house?

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            He hasn't been out of the basement for a while, so who knows who his mom invited in.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            He probably carries them around like trunk bears.

        2. Nobartium   1 year ago

          Feeling bad for other peoples misfortunes of *checks notes* being born in the wrong country doesn't make for a good policy.

          The rising tide only lifts boats capable of rising in the first place. But we didn't need to run that experiment here, Europe has been doing it for decades. The result has been that the underclass remains, grows, and will eventually constitute the majority, ending any chance of whatever governance preceded that period.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            Feeling bad for other peoples misfortunes of *checks notes* being born in the wrong country doesn’t make for a good policy.

            But we are supposed to feel bad for people in this country who were apparently "born in the wrong state" or "born in the sticks" and craft policy around that, to create protectionist schemes that make their labor artificially more valuable. Right?

            1. Nobartium   1 year ago

              Lower degrees of separation means that you see the effect of policies you vote for.

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            The rising tide only lifts boats capable of rising in the first place.

            And there we go. Those brown people just aren't capable.

            1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

              You are the one who said we need gardeners and fruit pickers.

            2. Nobartium   1 year ago

              I made no judgement on any given race, that statement applies to all humans.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                Yes, but implying is a Jeffy superpower.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  So are obfuscation, sophistry, and missing the point.

                2. R Mac   1 year ago

                  Implying negative motives for non-leftists, implying positive motives for leftists.

                  But don’t you dare call him a leftist.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    I won't. Because he's a fascist.

                    There are still a few old style lefties around, but most of what masquerade as the left these days are oligarchs, neo-aristocrats and fascists.

            3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

              Well, “those brown people” certainly “aren’t capable” of making things better in their home countries. They’re better off cleaning toilets here.

              Good thing they’ve got white saviors like you, Jeff.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          Nope. I just don't want to have to pay for them. For any for them. For anything. And want to stop paying for the freeloaders that are already here. Shutdown the welfare state in its entirety and I'll stop complaining about illegal aliens.

          WTF should we import a penniless underclass that is mostly uneducated and illiterate in their native tongue, much less in English which they by and large do not speak? We're already $1.5T in thole every fucking year and you want to import more mouths to suck on the government tit in perpetuity?

        4. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

          Even to this day, barely any of you even give a shit about the actual human lives impacted here.

          You castigate others for not caring about the plight of the migrants pouring into this country, while simultaneously not giving a shit about the negative effect those migrants are having on the American citizens who live in the border states that are most affected.

          Almost all of your posts contain some combination of condescension, hypocrisy, and/or logical fallacies.

    3. R Mac   1 year ago

      So have the people Biden’s been flying all over the country gotten the same treatment?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        That's (D)ifferent.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

      lol.

      As if absent “the republicans crimes” there was a possibility they might be deported.

      Idiot.

  27. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    "This type of behavior is not OK. This is the type of behavior we want to make sure we end in the state of Texas."

    Abbott's, um, Stand in the Schoolhouse Door.

  28. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    How some people make $70,000 as Manhattan restaurant-reservation middlemen.

    It's almost like new Yorkers are really shittybpeople

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      And that there is a super-rich elite uber-class who can hire slaves to streamline their privileged lifestyles. This must be the good kind of inequality.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        Yeah, it’s not really a coincidence that mass Third World migration is encouraged, funded, and celebrated by the same people who are entirely reliant on a class of service labor to the point that they’d actually starve to death if Rosalita wasn’t fixing their meals every day. That, and the neurotic descendants of Holocaust victims who honestly think that not letting in anyone who demands to live here is the same as mass genocide.

    2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Of course, in Manhattan, $70,000 is a starvation wage.

      (assuming that is an annual figure)

  29. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Doctor Taylor found guilt of gunsmithing in NYC. It was his hobby.

    https://redstate.com/jeffc/2024/04/22/brooklyn-man-convicted-over-gun-hobby-by-biased-ny-court-could-be-facing-harsh-sentence-n2173162

    Some excerpts.

    She (judge) told us, ‘Do not bring the Second Amendment into this courtroom. It doesn’t exist here. So you can’t argue Second Amendment. This is New York.'

    The judge also threatened the jury if they voted not guilty utilizing jury nullification. Demanded jury vote guilty.

    He added: “She basically said, ‘You must vote guilty’ without saying ‘you must vote guilty.’”

    Prosecution objected to defendants family to being at trial.

    And if it helps, defendant is black. No guns were ever sold or used in a crime.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Honestly if NY got nuked would anybody care?

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

        If Trump gets re-elected, I am hoping his first act is to carpet bomb NYC.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          See my comment above. It could be more fun to turn NYC into our own Gaza.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Most Midwesterners would probably cheer.

      3. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

        As long as Snake is still out, we are good

    2. mattwa   1 year ago

      Since it appears that New York has seceded from the Union, I intend to hold my breath until a bunch of woke idiots start calling them traitors.

    3. Yuno Hoo   1 year ago

      She (judge) told us, ‘Do not bring the Second Amendment into this courtroom. It doesn’t exist here. So you can’t argue Second Amendment. This is New York.’

      Is that so? Immediate disbarment, right? RIGHT?!

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        It's (D)ifferent. The constitution is a liViNG dOcUmEnT you know.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Seems like an insurrection by the Judge, to me. Or did NY secede without telling anyone? That's an insurrection, too, I think. Or is she just tossing out the Constitution?

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Geez, these New York judges really do have a history of being excellent candidates for the woodchipper, don't they?

    6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

      Judge Abena Darkeh

      Holy shit! That isn't a fucking joke?

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'How some people make $70,000 as Manhattan restaurant-reservation middlemen.'

    Only $70k in Manhattan? These poor struggling people probably have to live in Jersey.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Sad but true. $70k in Manhattan is like $20k most anywhere else.

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Sad but true. $70k in Manhattan is like $20k most anywhere else in normal places.

  31. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

    Well...

    as if they were Jonestown cultists

    These fuckwits are cultists.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Perhaps we should offer them some Kool-Aid.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        oh yeah!!

    2. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      It funny hearing them repeat the stage directions back.

  32. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    "Well, it seems that Alex Garland thought the best strategy was to strip a war story down to its barest bones and left you absolutely zero metaphorical scaffolding to graft your identities or theories on to."

    The obvious liberal or even conservative bent of movies don't go ever as well, so it sounds like they're trying the opposite direction. Can't be much worse.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      In a movie like that you need strong charecters. Civil war has none.

    2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Sounds bland.

  33. Yuno Hoo   1 year ago

    visibly Jewish

    Liz, did you read today's Brickbat?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      The hook nose gives them away

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Obligatory

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCKW4b36f9k

  34. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

    "These collect granular data about individual watching habits and log them into databases, which are then used to serve ads"

    Sounds scary, until I remember how clueless targeted advertising is in practice. I'm constantly getting the same handful of ads for stuff I have zero interest in (Jennifer Coolidge and sports gambling on Spotify, V-Shred and Grammarly on Youtube back in the day).

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Yeah, I get Spanish speaking ads on Pandora. In N. Idaho.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Because no one speaks Spanish in northern Idaho.

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          So why learn it?

        2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

          Hispanics make up 4.2% of the population in the panhandle. Based on those I know and work with, about half speak Spanish. How many of those listen to Pandora? How many of those listen to the Metallica station?

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Considering how many shows Metallica sells out whenever they go to Mexico City, I’d wager a lot more than you think.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              IDK, considering your familiarity with things like Cuban sandwiches…

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            Are you one of those goobers who are driven into a mad rage every time they are asked to "press 1 for English" on the phone? Why can't there be ads on the radio, or Pandora, or wherever, that cater to a different cultural demographic than your own?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Pandora Premium is soooo worth fifteen bucks a month.

            2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

              Why can’t there be ads on the radio, or Pandora, or wherever, that cater to a different cultural demographic than your own?

              The thread was about targeted ads. Seems off target.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Did you expect Jeff to actually read the discussion before virtue signaling?

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                It’s Jeffy. He’s usually off target by a factor of 20, off base a few miles, and couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with either a point or a bear, regardless of its trunk status.

              3. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

                The thread was about targeted ads.

                This x 1000

                The level of disingenuous is also x 1000.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  It's what he does.

            3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

              You missing the point in that if the ads are supposedly personalized, giving an ad in Spanish to someone who does not speak Spanish is poor targeting.

              1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

                Maybe they mentioned speaking Spanish? The microphones and AI did the rest.

            4. R Mac   1 year ago

              So you completely missed his point on purpose so you could call him a racist.

              You really are trash Lying Jeffy.

          3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            This whole thing is reminiscent of the Dylan Mulvaney 'controversy' with Bud Light. It's not enough that these companies cater to the major cultural demographic with *most* of their advertising. No, it must be absolutely 100% focused on the "people that matter", which of course are the "real Muricans", not those other people like trannies or Messicans. It is just American cultural arrogance: they are the center of the universe and American companies must cater to them and them alone. Everyone else needs to be either shut out or step in line with the American cultural majority.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Dude, it’s about targeted ads to the phone of a guy who speaks English and lives in northern Idaho. Its like FB giving me ads for someplace in BFE, California.

            2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

              Everyone else needs to be either shut out or step in line with the American cultural majority.

              Damn, and I always thought I could spend my after-taxed dollars however I wanted, supporting the companies that make an effort to NOT spit in my face; and avoiding those that do.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                How exactly is it "spitting in your face" for a company to make an ad that isn't directed at your demographic? Does EVERYTHING have to revolve around you?

                1. Nobartium   1 year ago

                  That's the whole point of targeted advertisement.

                  1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

                    Jeff still doesn't comprehend the concept of targeted advertising.

                    I'm not buying a product that promotes transitioning children in the ad campaign. I don't care if the product is SMG's exempt from '86 FOPA.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Jeff doesn’t comprehend a lot of things. Why should his lack of comprehension regarding targeted advertising be any different?

            3. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

              Poor jeffsarc

            4. R Mac   1 year ago

              You’re fucking a tranny, aren’t you Lying Jeffy?

            5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

              You are the one who seems triggered, Jeff.

              Maybe you need a nap. With your teddy bear. In your trunk.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Dude, don't you even Great Replacement conspiracy?

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Are the Lumi female deodorant ads I get for you?

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Not gonna lie, I kinda dig that (formerly) stinky lady.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          She is way too excited about body odor.

          1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

            Even still, I'd let her rate my crotch smell 12 hours after a shower.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-QTw615b4

              Appropriate?

              1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

                Wow. Thank you for that.

              2. Dillinger   1 year ago

                youtube knows even though I'm old enough to watch the vid it is inappropriate for a child like myself

          2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

            It's the underboob that does it.

          3. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Her Karen-ness triggers my urge to kill.

            "Unfortunately, we make women feel bad about their BO."

            Sure, bitch. It's got nothing to do with the fact that offensive odors are offensive no matter where they come from, we never shame men for their feet or their pits or general sweatiness, and 99.99% of the time it's not women wallowing in their own neuroses or shaming each other, but men who would wade through a pen of manure and sweat buckets just for the chance to score who stop well out of arms' reach and say, "Holy shit does something stink in here! It's probably not the trash or the garbage disposal or bathroom down the hall or my coffee breath... it must be your crotch!"

            No wonder people aren't buying your shitty deoderant any more than they bought the "designer men's fitted t-shirts" commercials you replaced. Skip to the full-cleavage chicks who noticed something different about their man and discovered the bluechew packets. There's something about a chick so disinterested in her current partner that she's not sure if he sorted out his ED or not that really says, "Attentive and caring partner." to me.

    3. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

      The YouTube ads are the worst. I will often have a podcast playing while I shower in the morning, and if an ad comes up while I'm unable to skip, it plays the whole thing. This, in turn, tells YT that I'm interested in the product, because I'm not skipping it, so I get that same ad about a thousand times over the next few months. The worst was the Dr. Squatch soap ad, where the guy flings a dish at the wall and says, "You're not a dish, you're a man. So why are you washing with ..." Every other ad on YT for a couple years was that one, because it played almost all of the 2 minutes, before I could get out of the shower and hit skip.

      (The way the YT ads work is they time how long it plays before you hit skip. The longer it plays, the more the system thinks you are interested in the product. If you let it play all the way through, there will often be a screen with nothing playing for five seconds, but with another skip button you can tap. If you get to that point and hit skip, it knows you could have skipped the ad, but played the whole thing. If you don't hit skip in that 5-second window after it finishes playing, it thinks you're just not paying attention or are out of the room. Don't hit skip on the 5-second screen after a full ad plays or you will get that ad incessantly afterwards.)

      Also, there was a trick I used before that worked great for bypassing mid-video ads on YT. You load the video, but swipe the progress bar to the end of the video. Then you replay the video. I did it for about a year with great success (back during Covid), and wouldn't get any mid-video ads that way. It stopped working for me, so I don't bother any more. It may work for others for a while, if you try it.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        The worst in my opinion are the choose your advertising experience on any streaming channel. Not only do I not want to watch either choice but quite often it causes the program I'm watching to lock up and then I have to log out and back in, which invariably picks up just in time for another round of commercials (and Hulu is the worst in my opinion).

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          But the wife insists in not paying the extra $7 a month or whatever it is to stream commercial free.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    How some people make $70,000 as Manhattan restaurant-reservation middlemen.

    Do these people happen to have marketable tiddies?

  36. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

    Ahh, poor baby.

    The daughter of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), Isra Hisi, was among those arrested. "She had no idea she would end up suspended, homeless, and left without food within a matter of days," according to The Daily Beast, which seemed to think the sob-story lens was the way to go.

    I'm sure she's really suffering.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    1. Yuno Hoo   1 year ago

      Is that "throwing a Hisi fit"?

      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

        She has her uncle’s eyes! So pretty!!

  37. Nobartium   1 year ago

    Colleges are religious organizations in drag.

    Change my mind.

    1. mattwa   1 year ago

      Religious organizations universally at least pretend to have some sort of moral framework that stems from their beliefs. Show me a moral framework either claimed or present at Columbia University and I'll accept your assertion.

      1. Nobartium   1 year ago

        Victim hierarchy.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

        What about Muslims?
        Their paragon of virtue is a murdering slave owning pedofile

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          You left out polygamist and racist.

      3. Moonrocks   1 year ago

        Show me a moral framework either claimed or present at Columbia University

        Diversity, Equity, Inclusion.

    2. Zeb   1 year ago

      What's the religion? I don't think they are really that coherent.

      1. Nobartium   1 year ago

        Coherence not required.

        All that remains is the zeal.

  38. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Prosecutors claim that former President Donald Trump has violated his gag order, which prohibits him from flapping his mouth about jurors and witnesses in his hush-money case, nearly a dozen times. The judge will consider holding him in contempt today.

    Can someone tell me the libertarian justification for Trump being gagged by none of the Prosecution witnesses who have been doing media tours?

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Orange Man Bad.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Ahh. Forget that tenet.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      It's (D)ifferent.

  39. Yuno Hoo   1 year ago

    Supreme Court to take up ghost gun case.

    Probably followed by a case about the *real* scourge: zip guns.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      The only gun that should be banned is Tommy Gunn from rocky 5

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        I think h.i.v. took care of that

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Just wait until they realize that they can't possibly stop ghost guns from travelling through walls.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        it's a .88 magnum ...

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      Casper can't carry?

      1. Stuck in California   1 year ago

        Good band name.

  40. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

    Yes.

    Haven't you had enough New York today? Haven't you gotten your fix?

    I've had enough of New York for a lifetime. I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Fuckin' A!

  41. Randy Sax   1 year ago

    They have now been mixed into an unholy brew by the internet and by opportunistic corporations, which have developed 'automatic content recognition' systems.

    Last night I watched an .mp4 of the first episode of Shogun while playing Civ IV. All offline. This stuff is pretty easy to get around with not much effort.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Yep

    2. Dillinger   1 year ago

      >>first episode of Shogun

      never understood Richard Chamberlain's appeal

  42. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

    Our current crop of college kids is becoming indistinguishable from those that participated in China's cultural revolution.

    Hope the marxists that whipped them into a frenzy are satisfied with their end product. Theyll be the first ones up against the wall or in the struggle sessions when they try to pull them back from the brink realizing what they have created will infringe on the comfy lives they used to have (which was provided by free market capitalism)

  43. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

    "referring to Jewish students. "We are going to create a human chain…so that they do not pass this point and infringe upon our privacy and try to disrupt our community,""

    Gee, that all sounds almost identical to what these groups have set up in the past with "POC only / no whites" groups and spaces because they would feel disrupted and unsafe if they were forced to endure the violence that is a white persons presence.

    Jews are seeing it now. Asians should pay attention. Hispanics as well. They will happily use you for numbers and power, and when you are no longer useful, you will be the next target.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      It's not like this has happened to the jews before, certainly not in 1912 Russia, 1931 Germany... Literally all socialist countries

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      They will happily use you for numbers and power, and when you are no longer useful, you will be the next target."

      You'd think blacks would have learned this lesson, looking at history from the start of the Democratic Party until the late 60's.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Unfortunately they’ve already allowed democrat policies to destroy their idea of families, so they seem stuck on the dole.

      2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        I would think they would remember they were freed by a Republican - - - - - -

        1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

          But, you see, that was before the parties magically switched in the 1960s. So, really, that means Lincoln was, in effect, what would be a modern Democrat, and it is the modern Republicans who are the party of slavery.

          I've had leftists with a straight face argue that self-serving bullshit to me on multiple occasions.

      3. Super Scary   1 year ago

        Don't worry, those reparations will be coming in any day now. Maybe give it 2 more weeks.

      4. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

        Remember when Reagan outlawed open carry when scary black dudes started exercising their 2A rights in the late 1960s??

        1. rbike   1 year ago

          Do you? Were you there? What party was Reagan in at the time?

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

            He was the Republican governor of California…you can check out the videos on YouTube of Reagan peeing his panties at the scary black dudes with guns! Oh, and Justice Thomas wrote a brilliant opinion calling our racists like Reagan that took a nasty dump and wiped his ass with the 2A.

            1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

              Was Reagan's freak-out over "scary black dudes with guns" as bad as the left's fear of grandmothers on Jan 6 trying to overthrow our democracy (by peacefully staying within the velvet ropes while taking an unauthorized tour of the Capitol)?

              1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                Stop the ste

                The final words of Ashtray Babbitt that will inspire a new generation of patriots to take back their country! Gee, I wonder what she meant by “ste”?? 😉

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  How about stopping your strawmen. They're thick enough they need to be cleaned out by flame thrower.

                  1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                    STOP THE STE!

                    STOP THE STE!

                    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      People didn't fall for your whataboutery. Take the L.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      First they came for the whites and I said nothing. Then they came for the Jews and I said nothing. Then they came for the Asians and I said nothing. Then they came for the Mexicans and I was like, wait a fucking minute. What happens to the food trucks?

  44. Sevo   1 year ago

    "What is happening at Columbia?"
    Stage one Nazism; see trueman, nardz (notice that antisemitic shit has gone missing), Misek and more.

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Nardz wasn't antisemitic. He was just intemperate and extreme.

      Misconstrueman on the other hand, is a Nazi.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        When did Nardz become past tense? Did the psycho finally go on a murder spree?

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          It’s hard to keep track when you mute so many people. Plus, alcohol induced amnesia.

        2. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Ideas. Never talks about people.

        3. Zeb   1 year ago

          Who knows? I think he's been absent for at least a month.

          1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

            Maybe he didn't pay for Reason+.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              I doubt that as Sarc claims he won’t pay, yet he’s still here.

            2. R Mac   1 year ago

              They haven’t enforced that yet.

              1. Dillinger   1 year ago

                hopefully all my whining was heard.

                1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

                  “Temporarily” is a vague term. Could go on like this for a while. Hope so.

            3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Anyone who pays money to argue with idiots is an idiot.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                Why should we? We’ve got you here for free.

              2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

                $25 ain’t much.

                So you’re, what, like one pouch of spittin terbacky away from being an idiot yourself?

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  Less, considering that Sarc is an idiot even without paying $25.

            4. Zeb   1 year ago

              Has anyone?

              1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

                I haven't. I was just joking (and hopefully not bringing the hammer down on us).

              2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                I'm planning to. I just won't start my subscription until I have to.

              3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                I did, and I've noticed that I haven't been logged out since. Before, it was almost weekly that I'd have to log back in after Reason automatically logged me out. That was six weeks ago.

        4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          Mikey M hasn't been here in a while. I think he went to Stormfront or Truth Social.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Who’s Mikey M, Shrike?

            And did you see him at Stormfront? Were you calling blacks "lawn jockeys" together or something?

          2. Sevo   1 year ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  45. Sevo   1 year ago

    "Biden marks Earth Day with..."
    ...massive spending of your and my money, the asshole.

  46. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    Student demonstrators told Jews to “go back to Poland.” “Say it loud and say it clear, we don’t want no Zionists here,” added others, chanting. "You guys are all inbred," protesters reportedly told counter-protesting Jewish students.

    And every single one of them will vote for Biden and Democrats up and down the ticket.

    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

      Biden is an enthusiastic supporter of Israel. Trump might be the better choice, assuming that the two will be facing each other in November. Trump doesn't want to involve America in another war, and doesn't really give a shit about what happens in the middle east. Biden is the opposite.

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        and doesn’t really give a shit about what happens in the middle east.

        Totally unaware of the peace deal he brokered.

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "Totally unaware of the peace deal he brokered."

          Peace deal? Is that what they call it? Trump didn't even try to broker peace between Israel and Palestine. If he's elected, he might. That's more that Biden would be willing to do. After 6 months of fighting, Biden's not even managed to pick up the phone and talk to Hamas, so great is his fear of upsetting the Jewish lobby and the military contractors. With Trump, he'll be willing to talk, as he did with the leaders of Russia and North Korea. If Hamas comes up with a battle scarred delegation that can speak English and show enough deference, progress may be possible.

          Medulla Oblongata's notion that today's Palestinian activists will en masse vote for genocide Joe is ludicrous, and best forgotten.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            "Peace deal? Is that what they call it?"

            Well, that's what Israel, the UAE, Bahrain, and Sudan all called it.

            "Trump didn’t even try to broker peace between Israel and Palestine."

            You talk like "Palestine" was ever an independent, sovereign nation, or like "Palestinian" is an ethnicity instead of a demonym for diverse groups who lived in what was Jordanian and Egyptian territory until the 60's.

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              "Well, that’s what Israel, the UAE, Bahrain, and Sudan all called it. "

              None of them were at war with Israel. If a peace deal were needed it was between the main belligerents, Israel and Palestine.

              "You talk like “Palestine” was ever an independent, sovereign nation"

              All in good time. The Jews of Israel may have to go through the kind of hell the inhabitants of Gaza are experiencing before peace can be achieved.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                "None of them were at war with Israel"

                Their constitutions and laws said otherwise.

                "If a peace deal were needed it was between the main belligerents, Israel and Palestine."

                "Palestine" isn't and was never a country. The only actual wars Israel fought were against troops from Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Algeria, Yemen, Iran and now Gaza.

                Prior to 1967 the newly created countries of Egypt and Jordan held that territory. After '67 Egypt and Jordan handed that land over to the Israelis in peace agreements. All the Druze, Samaritans and Bedouins living there chose Israeli citizenship. The Arabs who lived there and accepted Israeli citizenship became Israeli Arabs. The ones who didn't were dubbed "Palestinians" by the media and Arab Socialists.

                The Intifada was an uprising. Not a war.

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  "Their constitutions and laws said otherwise."

                  I say they were not at war. And the only advantage i know of coming from the so called peace deal was that Israelis could stop over in Dubai on their way to India and eastwards for holidays. Not a bad deal for all concerned, but not earth shaking. The peace deal that needs to be done is a settlement to the Palestinian/Israel dispute. Who knows, if Trump is elected, he could conceivably pull it off. It'll probably cost American tax payers plenty, and oh, are there any more Israeli spies like Jonathan Pollard still languishing in American prisons? They'll all have to be released, that goes without saying.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        ""Trump doesn’t want to involve America in another war, and doesn’t really give a shit about what happens in the middle east. Biden is the opposite.""

        So the best way to prevent our kids from dying in another war is to elect Trump?

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "So the best way to prevent our kids from dying in another war is to elect Trump?"

          The best way would be to elect a politician dedicated to peace. That never seems to be on offer come election time. You're given a choice between two war mongering parties. The good thing about Trump is that he is emotional and can be swayed, a slim reed but some may take it. The idea that the protestors at Columbia are about to support Biden is extremely silly. Some will vote for Biden or Trump, but I imagine most will find more productive ways to spend election day.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

            "Trump doesn’t want to involve America in another war,"

            So that guy?

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              Trump, Biden, or even Cornel West if you're feeling adventurous.

              Laugh about it, shout about it
              When you've got to choose
              Every way you look at it, you lose
              -Leon Trotsky

              1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                Jesus loves you more than you will know

          2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

            The people protesting at Columbia are not, for the most part, "pro-Palestinian activists". They are children playing at activist for the cause de jure, and as students at Columbia, almost certainly fully indoctrinated progressives stepped in Marxism. Of course they'll vote for Biden, it's funny how you pretend otherwise. I'm sure some few will find a way to stay home instead, but it's a fantasy to think that there's some sort of fairly even split in the crowd between likely Biden voters and likely Trump voters.

            https://www.collegevaluesonline.com/features/colleges-young-democrats/

            "Columbia University has enjoyed a reputation for being politically active practically since its founding in 1754. Today, the university is home to a student body of which 76% report being politically affiliated. Though Columbia does have a fairly large population of conservative students, the majority of Columbia Lions are liberal.

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              "I’m sure some few will find a way to stay home instead, but it’s a fantasy to think that there’s some sort of fairly even split in the crowd between likely Biden voters and likely Trump voters. "

              On the issue of Gaza, I think Trump is arguably better than Biden. Trump would at least be willing to sit down opposite a team from Hamas and I could see him moved by their resolve, courage and dedication. I don't see how anyone who takes the issue seriously, could support genocide Joe Biden.

              " the majority of Columbia Lions are liberal."

              Liberals are supporting Israel's genocide. Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Bill Maher, and thousands of others - the entire house and senate, to name a few. The folks camping at Columbia strike me as radicals.

  47. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    Is the Kent State National Guard available to send to Columbia U.?

    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

      The Chinese suppressed the students who occupied Tiananmen with militias from far off Sichuan. The leadership were worried that local Beijing based troops wouldn't massacre the students with the necessary relish.

      1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

        Heinz dill?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      I’d be more afraid they’d hit everyone but the actual protesters given the history. Last time, they managed to kill a ROTC member, one of the very folks they came in to help.

  48. mtrueman   1 year ago

    "It's not clear what type of speech environment Columbia hopes to cultivate. "

    It is clear. Columbia wants the type of free speech environment where complicity with genocide, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, collective punishment and murder is quietly accepted.

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Sorry your brown shirts got slapped on the wrist, must have been heartbreaking.

      Fear not though, they have money, theyll be back out on the streets pushing for noble causes like "gas the jews" soon enough

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        "orry your brown shirts got slapped on the wrist, must have been heartbreaking."

        I doubt it. Getting arrested at a demonstration is a rite of passage for committed activists.

        "theyll be back out on the streets pushing for noble causes like “gas the jews” soon enough"

        Gassing the Jews is an ignominious cause. The end of the Jewish state is noble and Israelis seem determined to help it along.

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          The end of the Jewish state is noble ..

          And there it is for all to see.

          1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

            They all stopped hiding it after about a month or so into the war

            They openly state their policy is ending the Jews. They are dropping the pretense of 2 state solution and saying the quiet part out loud now

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              "They are dropping the pretense of 2 state solution and saying the quiet part out loud now"

              Now? I've long advocated a one state solution. Maybe have autonomous ethnic regions like in China, but part of a federation. I never saw two states working if only because they weren't contiguous. The nice thing about one state is that none of the parties wants it. It's the ultimate compromise where everyone has to give up something they treasure.

              1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                "Now? I’ve long advocated a one state solution. "

                Agreed. Probably need to rip the bandaid off and expel anyone in the gaza strip and west bank who's motto is "death to Israel", there are plenty of countries surrounding with that same motto where they will certainly be in good company, and those areas can be fully incorporated into Israel under their one state control. There is really no good argument to do the opposite.

                They were there first
                They have a bigger stick
                They actually tolerate people of other nationalities/religions

                Time for the Palestinian people to find a new home. Fortunately there are a plethora of options for countries where their religion (and hatred of jews) is welcome and appreciated.

                Wait, is there a reason surrounding Arab nations haven't invited them in? What am I missing?

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  whose

                  1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                    Ouch, you know you are taking the hard L when you have to resort to a grammar check.

                    But that's what happens when your [ 😉 ] on the losing team.

                    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      You might benefit from a grammar check. Whose/who's is a tricky distinction. The lack of the apostrophe in the possessive case is confusing. Same with its/it's.

                    2. R Mac   1 year ago

                      Poor misconstrueman.

              2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                River to the sea, right? Maybe you can ship the Jews off to Madagascar.

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  "Maybe you can ship the Jews off to Madagascar."

                  Jews with multiple passports will be free to use them should they choose. That's always been the case.

                  1. R Mac   1 year ago

                    What about Jews with only one passport?

                    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "What about Jews with only one passport?"

                      Now would be a good time to address that problem.

                    2. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      @mtrueman

                      How about NO. Let the Jews keep their state.

                    3. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      " Let the Jews keep their state."

                      OK, they can keep their state. On the condition they all convert to Islam. Deal?

                    4. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      @mtrueman

                      You want the Jews to cease being Jews? To hell with that. Now fuck off.

                    5. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "You want the Jews to cease being Jews? "

                      Not at all. They will continue to be Jews, just Muslim Jews. What's the problem with that?

              3. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                Omg, Tlaib advocates for the 1 state solution because she can do simple math. Palestinians can outvote Israelis and just takeover the country without violence.

          2. mtrueman   1 year ago

            A state for Jews where all others are second class citizens? It's time to put that baby to bed.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              You mean where Israeli Arabs can vote, hold office, and even choose to avoid military duty, unlike Israeli Jews?

              Misconstrueman, you’re pathetic.

              1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                "You mean where Israeli Arabs can vote, hold office, and even choose to avoid military duty, unlike Israeli Jews?"

                A state where all citizens are equal regardless of their religion or ethnicity. The fact that Israeli Jews are pressed into a genocidal military campaign is an outrage, and should be one of the first things to go.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  Dude, it’s the most pathetic genocide in history. Stop misconstruing it.

                  1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                    Killing 1% of a population of a people you supposedly want to be erased from the earth, when you have the military force to actually erase them from the earth, in response to them breaching your borders and killing your people with the intent to actually cause genocide....apparently counts as genocide now.

                    Stretch Armstrong looks on with envy at the people making these reaches.

                  2. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    "it’s the most pathetic genocide in history"

                    Is that meant as a defense of Israel's actions?

                    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                      He's just pointing out the glaringly obvious fact that in the most charitable reading of your argument it's still not a genocide.

                      To histrionic college infants who think that racism and white supremacy are around every corner and under every bed, detached from reality, this is absolutely a genocide. To non retarded people, its nowhere close

                    2. Zeb   1 year ago

                      No, it's mockery of idiots who think it's a genocide on the part of Israel.
                      This is a messy conflict and I don't endorse everything that Israel has done. But one thing is damn near certain: if the Palestinians all laid down arms and stopped fighting, there would be peace. If the Israelis did the same, there would be an actual genocide immediately.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      It's a land grab, not genocide. When this is all over the Palestinian territory will be much smaller with more population density and more righteous animosity.

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      But one thing is damn near certain: if the Palestinians all laid down arms and stopped fighting, there would be peace.

                      That's actually not true to my knowledge. From what I've gathered the Israelis have vowed to kill thirty-some-odd-thousand Palestinians who are part of or linked to Hamas, and they're going to finish the job. Period. Doesn't matter if Palestinians lay down their arms or not. Those people are going to be killed if it means dropping hospitals and schools on their heads. Of course I could be misinformed.

                    5. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "if the Palestinians all laid down arms and stopped fighting, there would be peace"

                      The land thieving, apartheid and military occupation would continue. That's the reason why Palestinians took up arms in the first place.

                      "to kill thirty-some-odd-thousand Palestinians who are part of or linked to Hamas, and they’re going to finish the job. Period."

                      That doesn't seem likely. Hamas has never been stronger. It's influence is spreading as never before. Columbia University, for example. And more importantly, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. In Jordan, especially, Hamas has thousands turning out in the streets supporting more Oct. 7s. Hamas is an increasingly influential ideology. You don't extinguish it by murdering children in their beds, in hospitals, or at school.

                    6. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                      "It’s a land grab, not genocide."

                      Everytime there is an Arab-Israeli conflict initiated by the Arabs, the Israelis end up with more land.

                      They should probably stop trying to expel the Jews who have the right to be there and more military power, as it results in their situation worsening.

                      But somehow everyone comes down on Israel being the bad guy when they are constantly being attacked by neighbors that want them dead. Maybe if they stop warring with Israel they will stop getting their land taken when they lose.

                    7. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "Everytime there is an Arab-Israeli conflict initiated by the Arabs, the Israelis end up with more land."

                      This time is different. There are now large buffer zones around Gaza and the north of Israel where essentially only military personnel are present. The rest, some 80%, have been evacuated to the large cities, and put up in hotels at (US) government expense.

                    8. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      That doesn’t seem likely. Hamas has never been stronger. It’s influence is spreading as never before. Columbia University, for example. And more importantly, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt.

                      I meant Hama in Gaza. Thought that was obvious by the context.

                      But somehow everyone comes down on Israel being the bad guy

                      Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never said anything about good guys or bad guys. I was arguing against genocide and instead calling it a land grab. That's kind of less-bad than genocide, right?

                    9. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "I meant Hama in Gaza. "

                      Hamas is an ideology that goes beyond Gaza. You should familiarize yourself with what's happening in Jordan, where Hamas influence is likely to be the most consequential. Their king is a text book quisling and could easily be ousted by Hamas sympathizing hardliners. That can't be an appetizing prospect for Israeli land thieves. Instead of being confined to a tiny enclave, Hamas would have an entire country to work with.

                    10. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I’m starting to see how you get your negative reputation.

                      Jordan lets us use their airpace. Not sure what you're talking about.

                    11. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "Not sure what you’re talking about."

                      I'm talking about Hamas. It's an ideology. You don't extinguish it by murdering children. That only increases its legitimacy as a force of resistance. Hamas is reaching far beyond Gaza. Jordan is probably the most worrisome case for Israeli hardliners. Today the king of Jordan, someone I heard speaks Arabic with a British accent, is a great friend of Israel and the West. Hamas, however seems to have planted deep roots in Jordanian society thanks to their opposition to the Israeli genocide, and the king's milquetoast response. If you are unfamiliar with any of this, I beg you to look into it before commenting further.

                      "Jordan lets us use their airpace. "

                      Gaza doesn't have it own 'airspace.' It doesn't even have its own airport.

                    12. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                      Palestinians can fly…when a missile strikes the Palestinians are airborne for a few fleeting seconds. 😉

              2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                He wants the democratic state where others are tolerated to be replaced with a religious ethnostate where others are executed.

    2. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      That has been the MO of Islam from its inception.

  49. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Pessimistic young Germans turning to far right, says study
    ....
    German teenagers and young adults find themselves increasingly unsatisfied and likely to vote for the far right, according to a survey. Fears about prosperity are highlighted as a possible cause.
    ....
    Young people were especially worried about inflation (65%), expensive housing (54%), poverty in old age (48%), the division of society (49%) and an increase in migrant and refugee flows (41 percent).

    https://www.dw.com/en/pessimistic-young-germans-turning-to-far-right-says-study/a-68897441

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Shocked. Who would have thought living in a society with terrible leftist policies and unchecked immigration would lead someone to vote against those responsible

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        " inflation (65%)"

        They blame Biden for inflation too?

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          No, just the similar policies that brought it on.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

            Like the CARES Act and PPP?

            1. Sevo   1 year ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and an asshole besides.

            2. XM   1 year ago

              "Printing more money will solve inflation!"

              BP2

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Still pretending that as the world reserve currency holder, the US doesn't export inflation, huh?

          How the United States is exporting inflation to other countries

          And since we're talking about Germany, here's a German economist on the matter.

          How the United States Exports Its Inflation

          But of course you know all this already, because this is like what, the twentieth, thirtieth time I gave links on the subject to you?

          So why the stupid game of pretending otherwise? You know that I'm just going to continue posting these in response.

          Are you really so inept as not to be able to come up with a different lie?

        3. Sevo   1 year ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

            The commenters on Reason are obsessed with pedophilia! I’m going to alert the FBI to this place because it’s all very disturbing.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Hey, dumbass, it’s one guy here named Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2. Ask him some time why he has a “2” after his name.

              Hell, I’ll make it easy for you. He got a permaban after posting dark web hardcore child pornography links in one of the threads a few years ago. He came back using his old username with a “2” after it.

              1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

                Except the commenters accuse me of similar things.

                1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                  I won't be surprised if they're right.

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  50. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Make America Gay Again

    Melania Trump says US 'must unite' ahead of Mar-a-Lago Log Cabin Republicans event
    Former first lady will speak at the Log Cabin Republicans' event at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/melania-trump-says-us-must-unite-mar-a-lago-log-cabin-republicans-event

    Our Denny Hastert conservatives will be happy.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      So, uh, why do you have a “2” after your name?

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Apparently, he suddenly forgot his password for the website he trolls on every single day.

        He swears it totally wasn't because Reason permabanned his original handle for posting kiddie porn links.

        Denny Hastert/Bill Clinton/Anthony Weiner/Jeffry Weinstein/Harvey Weinstein-type fascists like Plugly can always be counted on to tell the truth about those kind of things.

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  51. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>to Columbia University students who happen to be Jewish: Enjoy your remote learning.

    back to zoom Seders

  52. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>the pro-Palestine tent city encampment at Columbia

    what happens when they vote for Hamas to run the yard?

    1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      A death toll of 50,000 children, all brutally murdered by the Jewish students attending remotely.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        lol coming up on Friday's HnR ...

  53. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Several sitting senators have called for the National Guard to be sent in to break up protests, which is surely overkill.

    step out of line, the Man come and take you away. you'd better stop, now. what's that sound?

  54. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>The daughter of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), Isra Hisi, was among those arrested.

    she also the daughter of the brother? ew

    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 year ago

      Thank you for making it impossible for her to get an abortion—America will improve with more descendants of Ilhan Omar and her brother.

  55. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>virtual learning options

    in the 80s/90s when nobody went to class all learning was optional ... and virtual is a terrible word to place in front of learning

  56. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>visibly Jewish

    um ...

  57. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>"This person, a man dressing as a woman in a public high school in the state of Texas, they're trying to normalize the concept that this type of behavior is OK," said Gov. Greg Abbott

    hey Greg Abbott a man dressing as a woman in a public high school in the state of Texas is okay ... as long as he uses the men's room.

  58. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

    Supreme Court to take up ghost gun case.

    They cant stop the signal

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      don't. cross. the. streams.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        There was none of that in the last two movies. The streams cross and twist like snakes in love.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          the rehash with the kids was not unpleasant. haven't seen the one with the tiny marshmallows yet

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            It was funny. Entirely predictable but good.

          2. mad.casual   1 year ago

            The rehash with the kids should've been one-and-done. A fitting send off.

            But Hollywood being as stupid as they are, had to mix up a big bowl of diverse and inclusive shit and fling it against the wall to see what, if anything, sticks.

            1. Dillinger   1 year ago

              mme. dillinger was nonplussed about next-gen-girl-Egon

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                The amount of screentime given to that girl was almost creepy. Even my kid agreed.

              2. mad.casual   1 year ago

                I didn’t think her appearance in the first one was too disruptive. Clearly written in for diversity purposes and written in by someone who has no idea of whether they’re portraying a character with a unique trait or a caricature but she wasn’t yet another “Female Tony Stark at the age of 13 waiting to be discovered by her strong female peers and rescued from the incompetent males.” And she was an apt vehicle for an estranged, eccentric father to reconnect with his daughter.

                But, again, the second movie, when she’s older, she’s a simultaneously more self-aware and more retarded version of Dustin Hoffman’s Rain Man. And if it had been left at the first, you could close the book with “And they all lived happily ever after.” but, now, there’s an undertone that they’re all going to have to tag along with borderline autistic/retard, socially-aware-but-completely-clueless girl to make sure she doesn’t get tricked by some entity into building or participating in a doomsday McGuffin… again.

                1. Dillinger   1 year ago

                  >> And she was an apt vehicle for an estranged, eccentric father to reconnect with his daughter.

                  yes

                  >>more retarded version of Dustin Hoffman’s Rain Man

                  rats ... and can you imagine trying to make Rain Man now?

  59. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Prosecutors claim that former President Donald Trump has violated his gag order

    Crosseyed and Painless over here about where's the outrage ...

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      Who wouldn’t gag, being the defendant in a kangaroo court?

  60. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>the new A24 movie, Civil War

    is this worth my time?

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      I'm going tonight. Only six bucks on Tuesdays. Will let you know.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        thumb emoji I'm interested in a review

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          6/10

          Story followed some reporters. Wasn't sympathetic to any side. Notion of Texas and California teaming up was funny. People did shit. People died. Blah blah. I think it would be better on a small screen with a pause button.

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            gracias

    2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Not if it was made in the last 20 years.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        You seriously won't watch movies that are less than 20 years old? You're missing out. Clint Eastwood has made some of his best films in the last two decades.

      2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Not if it was made in the last 20 years. 18 years.

        FTFY
        (you obviously forgot that Son of the Mask came out in 2005).

    3. Truthfulness   1 year ago

      It's not. I recommend watching Nerdotic's review.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vARZ0GwWk_w

  61. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>and a computer was a computer,

    the retail value of a Commodore64 was $340.00 on a Price is Right rerun last night

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      The value of a dollar was $10

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        oh ya ... I had an atari800 and delivered papers so I could afford blank floppys ... my parents never shut up about the cost of goods

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

      Price is Right reruns?

      God I love 2024.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        dude ROKU has a Price is Right channel 24/7 "actual retail value IS"

  62. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>How some people make $70,000 as Manhattan restaurant-reservation middlemen.

    He cannot have ze duck!!

  63. Get To Da Chippah   1 year ago

    All students who have violated Columbia's student code of conduct should be expelled without hope for revocation or refund of tuition.

    Granted, the REEEEEEing would be deafening if it happened.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      Perhaps expelled to Gaza?

      1. Get To Da Chippah   1 year ago

        Even better.

  64. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    Every time I see the drone shots of this madness, I keep thinking it should be a targeting drone.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      where I come from the phi delts would be barraging the square with water balloons

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        We should sick Jeremy Piven on them.

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ArkHb_7xM&pp=ygUOcGN1IG1lYXQgc2NlbmU%3D

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          exactly! that pre-frosh snagged the bee.

  65. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

    Struggle to get past the word protests.

    They feel so strong they have to cover their face. Come on don't be a coward like Hamas, show your face

  66. Azathoth!!   1 year ago

    Back in the mid-aughts, too, Columbia had another scandal, almost the current situation inverted: Professors perceived as too biased against Israel were targeted with mass scrutiny and calls for firing.

    And they were not fired-- because people extended free speech right to those who desire to end free speech, to end everything we stand for.

    And now college students are little more than brownshirts mindlessly repeating whatever propaganda their leftist masters demand.

    The left is mobilizing it's idiot army.

  67. XM   1 year ago

    "Hey, happy Passover to those who observe. Say, it's really not a good look for these pro Palestinian protesters to threaten Jews, huh? Their parents totally can't be happy that they're spending all that money on an online school! Yikes!"

    Reason has to be better than this. Seriously. Nothing Trump has done could compare to what's happening on these campuses. Allusions to Kristallnacht and Little Rock are being made, and they're appropriate. How does this happen in 2024 America? You think whatever's happening to Jews now can't happen to Asians, Latinos, blacks, etc? The heroic immigrants? We know for sure the hamas crew love gays, right?

    A big government state that spends like a drunken sailor may still endure as a society if it adheres to a certain moral foundation. If it doesn't, it will perish. No amount of responsible spending will save it. ACTUAL bigotry is 100 times more odious than any prohibition.

    You think Donald Trump hates Mexicans with all the fiery, all consuming hate these lunatics have for Jews? Anyone serious really think that? There are supposedly just under a million Americans with Ukrainian heritage. None of them are calling for the deaths of Russians in the streets.

    1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

      One difference between Jew and me is that I know that genocide can never be justified.

      As do millions of people. These students included.

      Why don’t Jews?

      1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

        Those students are mistaken. No such genocide happened at Gaza. You are simply lying; now fuck off and never return.

  68. mtrueman   1 year ago

    " None of them are calling for the deaths of Russians in the streets."

    They're not in the streets. They are either in Ukraine US supplied weapons in hand fighting Russians and frequently calling for Russian deaths, or they stay home and don't want to be involved. Any Ukrainian demonstrations in the US are likely to be orchestrated from the top down rather than a spontaneous expression from the people,

    "Allusions to Kristallnacht and Little Rock are being made, and they’re appropriate. "

    They are ridiculous. A good portion of the student activists are Jews. Nazis perpetrated Kristalnacht against the Jews. What we're seeing in Columbia is Jews against Jews. I doubt the Jewish protesters at Columbia hate Jews. They're not antisemites, but oppose Israel's policies on Palestine and presumably other issues. Admittedly, simply opposing Israeli policy is more than enough antisemitism for many these days.

    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

      Apparently you never learned about a concept called the "self-hating Jew". Give these a read:
      https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801840635/reasonmagazinea-20/
      https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-793134

      Don't sympathize with such people.

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        "Apparently you never learned about a concept called the “self-hating Jew”."

        I have heard of it. It's a term some Jews use to smear other Jews who don't support Israel. It's tendentious and I don't think it's relevant. Instead we have Jews who support Israel and Jews who oppose it. 'Self-hatred' is emotive, prejudicial and unsupported.

        The fact that many of the protesters at Columbia are Jews belies the claim that the protests are antisemitic. They are against the policies of Israel. Not all the policies of Israel, just the bad ones - genocide, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, murder, torture to name the worst.

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