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Google Fires 28

Plus: Europoor discourse, NPR's woke CEO, a forgotten tech panic, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 4.18.2024 9:30 AM

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No sit-ins on company dime: Yesterday, Google fired 28 of its workers after employees held sit-ins to protest the company's contracts with the Israeli government. The employees were part of a group called "No Tech for Apartheid," which protests the provision of cloud computing—called Project Nimbus—to the Israeli government.

"Physically impeding other employees' work and preventing them from accessing our facilities is a clear violation of our policies, and completely unacceptable behavior," said a company spokesman in a statement.

It's interesting watching tech companies decide they have no tolerance for this type of employee heckler's veto. Anti-Israel activism—which has for years involved protesting Project Nimbus, to the point that Israel even wrote a provision about employee activism into the contract it has with Google—has long been an undercurrent at the tech company. But just a few years ago, when companies wanted to be at the vanguard of wokeness, they treated such activism differently than they're treating it today.

Back in 2018, thousands of Google employees protested Project Maven, a contract with the Pentagon that would have used the company's AI technology to assess drone surveillance footage. Google higher-ups acquiesced to the activists' demands, saying they would not renew the contract and developing a set of AI guiding principles that landed squarely in the middle of the road. "While we are not developing AI for use in weapons," CEO Sundar Pichai wrote at the time, "we will continue our work with governments and the military in many other areas." After all, "these collaborations are important and we'll actively look for more ways to augment the critical work of these organizations and keep service members and civilians safe."

Give an inch, take a mile: Now, employees are understandably emboldened. "I refuse to build technology that empowers genocide," one Googler shouted last month during a tech conference keynote speech given by Barak Regev, head of Google Israel. The employee was promptly fired for "interfering with an official company-sponsored event."

Employees who apply to work for Google should probably be aware that the company has a long history of military contracts, both American and foreign. "The Federal Procurement Data System shows the Coast Guard bought licenses to Google Earth in 2005; the Army did the same in 2007," reported Wired. Not to mention: "The Pentagon had a sympathetic ear at the top. In 2016, Eric Schmidt, formerly Google's CEO and then Alphabet's executive chair, became chair of the department's Defense Innovation Advisory Board, which promoted tech industry collaboration with the agency."

"This is a huge escalation and a change in how Google has responded to worker criticisms," said one employee who protested yesterday. But the actual types of contracts Google goes after has not changed; it's merely that the company pivoted from soft on activism to much tougher, as it seemingly realized inmates cannot—and should not—run the asylum. Or, in this case, occupy the offices of Google Cloud's CEO during the workday.

Seating the jury: In Manhattan, former President Donald Trump's trial is proceeding more quickly and smoothly than expected, with seven out of 12 total jurors already picked.

The case against Trump concerns the falsifying of business records related to hush money payments he doled out following a sexual tryst with porn star Stormy Daniels. He's being brought up on 34 felony counts and could face a total of four years in prison if convicted. Given what a polarizing figure Trump is, there were concerns about how jury selection would go, but it appears to be proceeding rather smoothly.

The jurors so far include "a man originally from Ireland who will serve as foreman, an oncology nurse, a grandfather originally from Puerto Rico, a middle-school teacher from Harlem, two lawyers and a software engineer for Disney," reported The New York Times. Picking a truly fair and impartial jury, that's representative of New York as a whole, is a near-impossible task; it remains to be seen whether anyone will pull the wool over the eyes of those selecting them or become improperly enchanted by the media spotlight. (More detail on those who were not picked, and more on the questions jurors have been asked.)


Scenes from New York: New excuse just dropped for why state legislators can't put together a budget on time.


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  • NPR's new CEO appears to hate tech and the people who make it, arguing in support of the idea that "the rise of tech empires threatens society," wrote Pirate Wires' Sanjana Friedman. (Not to mention, she was apparently very triggered by Hereticon, the best social event of the year.)
  • What comes next for Israel?
  • Everything you ever wanted to know about the forgotten moral panic over beepers.
  • As the International Space Station gets retired, are we entering the era of the private space station?
  • Europoor discourse is raging on Twitter:

There's a European upper middle-class cope which basically says "yes, America might look richer, but there's no work-life balance, culture, or accessible healthcare." What I've learnt moving here is that, no, for genuinely comparable professionals, America is just much richer.

— Ryan Bourne (@MrRBourne) April 17, 2024

  • "When the government of President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela and his country's opposition signed an agreement in October to work toward free and fair elections this year, it was seen as a glimmer of hope after years of authoritarian rule and economic free fall," reported The New York Times. The U.S. lifted oil sanctions, hoping for the best. Now, merely six months later, "the Maduro government has made several moves that have dimmed the chances of legitimate elections, and a frustrated Biden administration on Wednesday announced that it was letting the sanctions relief expire."
  • A better debate format is possible:

I would enjoy a debate between him and Trump where the moderators just teed them up, shame-free, to tell the most fanciful bullshit stories about themselves and their families. https://t.co/9QO20RsKBk

— Matt Welch (@MattWelch) April 17, 2024

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Yesterday, Google fired 28 of its workers after employees held sit-ins to protest the company's contracts with the Israeli government.

    Setting their careers if not themselves on fire.

    1. Illocust   1 year ago

      I wonder if they'll sue. They could make a case based on previous company behavior they had no reason to believe this policy would be enforced.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        California has statute protections for firings due to politics. Unfortunately they gutted them to let businesses in California fire conservatives. They have no recourse after employees demanded and cheered the firing of the one engineer a few years back for daring to say men and women are different.

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          You’re assuming equal application of the law, something that leftists clearly don’t give a shit about.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Fair.

            1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

              Kinda like you on the receiving end of a genocide after advocating Israeli genocide in Gaza.

              1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                The "genocide" never happened--Gaza's population is going up! Puts a wrench to what Hamas has been claiming.

          2. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

            Get rid of the leftists.

        2. CE   1 year ago

          The firings aren't due to politics. They were for interfering with the movement of other employees trying to do their jobs.

      2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        I'm kinda shocked myself.

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      Would have ben funnier to just work around them and just let them tire themselves out. Like the 12 hour hunger strike at Harvard.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        Have you no Mercy? What if they run out of tampons?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Oh no, but anyway…

        2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          Let the rivers run red with their blood?

        3. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

          There's more in the mens room.

          1. Uilleam   1 year ago

            lol

        4. Uncle Jay   1 year ago

          Isn't that why God made fingers?

        5. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          Duct tape.

          1. Ersatz   1 year ago

            lets hope for their sakes they’re all Brazilian!!

    3. Minadin   1 year ago

      What do you call 28 fired Google employees?

      A good start.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Gemini AI shows they were all minority employees when I asked for a picture.

        1. Ersatz   1 year ago

          Ha!

    4. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Nothing says 'lucrative IT Career track material' like shouting at The Cloud and gluing your hands to the Information Superhighway.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        *polite applause*

    5. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      By the bye, the Day Without Fist of Etiquette was like the 1816 Krakatoa, East of Java "Year Without a Summer" compacted into a single day! It left me starving for more!

      Please try to avoid that and hang on as best you can, at least until Reason has it's Thanos "Blip" and "disappears" all who don't pay for the rough schlock surrounding their few diamonds.

      You are one of those few diamonds who make the Comments worth visiting! I admire you, Fist, in all your five-knuckled glory!
      🙂
      😉

    6. CE   1 year ago

      If only they had learned the value of polite discourse and teamwork in college....

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Physically impeding other employees' work and preventing them from accessing our facilities is a clear violation of our policies, and completely unacceptable behavior...

    October 7th taught us that no action is beyond the pale when it comes to fighting the Jews!!!

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "Muh 30,000" - t. Misek

  3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Yesterday, Google fired 28 of its workers after employees held sit-ins to protest the company's contracts with the Israeli government.

    Beautiful.

    Buttplug approved.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Trying to rebound from yesterday?

      https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/metro/soros-funneled-15-m-plus-to-groups-rallying-for-hamas/

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Soros is such a piece of shit. How could anyone but a pedophile Georgia Klansman defend that obviously evil fuck?

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Because to them, words are more powerful than actions. Shrike and shrike lite both showed last night they only cared about the words.

          1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

            Wait, which one is Shrike Lite? That can’t possibly be Jeffy.

            By the way, I think Jeffy single handedly bankrupted Red Lobster.

            https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2024/04/17/report-red-lobsters-endless-shrimp-deal-leads-company-consider-bankruptcy/

            1. R Mac   1 year ago

              Gov’na shrike.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                Aka Diet Shrike.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Same retardation, just less CP.

        2. Uncle Jay   1 year ago

          Soros is a self-admitted Nazi collaborator, ergo a fascist...and so are his supporters.

      2. Rob Misek   1 year ago

        Fuckwit.

        Israel has funded Hamas with BILLIONS “officially” in cash in suitcases in the backs of cars.

        1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

          You have no evidence for your outrageous claim. You and Soros can go to Gaza if you want to prove otherwise. Hamas would surely welcome you both.

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    But just a few years ago, when companies wanted to be at the vanguard of wokeness, they treated such activism differently than they're treating it today.

    The soy crowd might find that the pendulum swings back just as hard as they swung it "forward".

  5. JesseAz   1 year ago

    I for one am glad for return to the norms.

    On our constitutional history, the impeachment process has had the House charge, House present to the Senate, and then the Senate vote. This occurred for every impeachment except when someone resigned.

    Yesterday Democrats glaringly broke those norms. Adding to their history of norm violations.

    Schumer, before any House evidence was presented, had a series of votes to ignore impeachment.

    Article 1 was dereliction of duty accusing Mayorkas of violating immigration laws. This was the same charges used against Trump for impeachment 1. Schumer declared this not a constitutional violation and the Democrats voted to dismiss before evidence.

    Article 2 was lying to Congress, a felony. Again Democrats voted to dismiss without hearing evidence. Schumer stated a felony charge was not a high crime or misdemeanor.

    The House was never allowed to present impeachment evidence as laid out in the Constitution.

    As voting wound down, Patty Murray (who was leading the session of the Senate) was asked on the record if the new impeachment precedent was felonies were not impeachment. She declared yes.

    So I guess no more impeachment, even for felonies.

    Of course we know Democrats won't live up to these precedents they have now stated if a republican is president.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Kinda want to see: Trump wins, R's get advantage in Senate, D's win house.

      D's House will send articles of impeachment weekly. Using this precedent, Senate R's punt each and every article without trial.

      Media screams.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Media will decry and ask what hypocrisy?

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Nah.
        "Principled" RINOs and NeverTrumpers will make a point of allowing them.

        1. American Mongrel   1 year ago

          Keep attacking the "RINOs" and GOPe all the way to that 1984 style 59% Trump mandate.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            You mean that January 18, 2021 Quinnipiac Poll? The poll at the height of the Jan 6 Reichstag Burning madness your Gestapo orchestrated? That poll?

            Lol, how absolutely desperate.

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              Ooops didn't look at the name and misunderstood the post.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      The hypocrisy here is the feature, not a bug. By letting their opponents know that they can do anything, while their opponents can do nothing, they instill a sense of futility and helplessness in the opposition and the general population.

      Everything hypocritical and unfair that the Democrats are doing right now is planned and purposefully hypocritical and unfair. Aside from the obvious goals they're also psychological attacks. The Soviets did this for generations.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        ^

      2. Minadin   1 year ago

        Every once in a while, the Republicans discover their spines and use the new norm-breaking precedents established by the Democrats to do something useful, like ramming through all of Trumps judicial picks over the objections of the self-neutered opposition.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          self-neutered

          Is that a gender?

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

            I wouldn't be surprised. In fact with the advent of puberty blockers and voluntary mastectomies and testes removal we are there.

          2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

            It is now...

    3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      The Left has no history. The arguments they make in any political conflict only apply to that conflict. They do not have any standards or norms of behavior that will apply to themselves. They live completely in the moment, and subsist on bad faith arguments that only apply to their political advantage right now.

      The MAGA GOP's tolerance of Trump's bad behavior is a learned response from.dealing with the Democrats who have no scruples over the long term.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        The left has one principle. Power.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          Critical Theory in six words.

      2. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

        Andrew Wilkow calls that ‘The history of now’.

    4. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

      The democrat party no longer has a right to exist.

    5. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Wow. I've been assured that only the Democrats could save our beloved democracy from authoritarian populists. But the senate majority leader can now decide, as a matter of law, what impeachment charges are constitutional. And no body cares.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    This is a huge escalation and a change in how Google has responded to worker criticisms...

    I bet the suggestion box swelled to its limits after this!

    1. Ska   1 year ago

      But the non-dairy milk substitutes at the cappuccino bar remained sadly limited to only eight choices.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        Nobody needs more than 8 milk substitutes.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          Do they have bull milk?

    2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      It’s also a huge escalation in worker criticisms, from gleeful collaboration in the case of contracts with the CCP to this.

  7. JesseAz   1 year ago

    This is awkward for Jeff. Science Journals testify they were censoring lab leak due to a push from Fauci and others.

    Communications released by the subcommittee show Nature leaned on the authors of the "Proximal Origins" paper, covertly shaped by then-National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins and then-National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci, to completely rule out the plausibility of lab-leak as a condition of publishing it, which they did.

    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/science-publisher-apologizes-dismissing-lab-leak-colleagues-spurn-congressional

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      It's not awkward for Jeff in the least. He invents new narratives as quickly as he abandons old ones. After attacking the source, he'll move on to acrobatically twisting the evidence to suit whatever spin he feels is necessary.

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        They were doing the best they could with the information they wantedhad! Any of you would have done the same!

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        "Correlation is not causation!"

        -jeff, while not knowing the meaning of this phrase

    2. DesigNate   1 year ago

      Justthenews is a right-wing garbage site and the fact that you posted it means no one should click on it to see what the primary sources might be.

      Did I do that right?

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...with seven out of 12 total jurors already picked.

    Those poor bastards.

    1. Super Scary   1 year ago

      I bet they can't wait for their book deals.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        Joy Reid already booked juror #3 for the victory celebration.

      2. Ersatz   1 year ago

        Exactly this! They will be daydreaming of thier appearances on every proggy morning show and faux news station to promote their book deal book. The offers will be surreptitiously rolling in all the while they are pretending to give consideration to the evidence - all the while planning how to justify their predetermined verdict.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Their 15 minutes of infamy.

    2. R Mac   1 year ago

      I thought the foreman was selected once the entire jury has been seated?

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        That’s for normal trials.

    3. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

      2 of the 7 have been removed already.
      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/nyregion/jurors-dismissed-trump-trial.html

  9. JesseAz   1 year ago

    The White House is planning to bring back sanctions on Venezuelan oil they removed after Joe got into office. Seemingly done to use as campaign fodder to blame high gas prices on.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-prepares-reimpse-venezuela-oil-ban-biden-seeks-scapegoat-resume-draining-spr

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      All I hear is those stickers on the pumps saying this is Joe's fault.

  10. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

    No sit-ins on company dime: Yesterday, Google fired 28 of its workers after employees held sit-ins to protest the company's contracts with the Israeli government.
    They should have spoken with their union rep first before doing the sit-in.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    NPR's new CEO appears to hate tech and the people who make it...

    Yes it may have diluted corporate media influence but she forgot that tech also makes it so much easier to censor critics.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      She doesn’t hate tech so much as she hates the lack of control over the message. She’s a part of “The Blob”, having been part of the WEF, Atlantic Council, and other Blob organizations. In fact, here’s her Wiki page where she’s so proud of her work with the Blob.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Maher

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Did you see the video of her boasting about coordinating with the government to censor narratives at wikipedia?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Yes, I did. I’ve been following this closely over on Twitter, following Mike Benz and Chris Rufo and their takes on her. She’s about as swampy a swamp creature as one can find.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

      Liz is just mad because Kate is hotter.

      1. Sevo   1 year ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        You love Kate as she’s a part of your Open Society/WEF swamp assholes.

        1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

          She probably promised Shrike and his fellow Soros henchmen more child porn in exchange for their obedience. Soros probably has an offshore outfit somewhere that produces it.

      3. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        ^In which SPB feigns locker room talk.

      4. R Mac   1 year ago

        I didn’t realize Kate is a minor.

        1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

          14 is too old for Pluggo.

      5. DesigNate   1 year ago

        God, you can’t even get THAT right.

  12. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Remember all of us who were discussing why surgeries for trans kids would lead to surgeries for other body dismophic orders like those wanting to remove appendages....

    A doctor in Quebec treated a man with body integrity identity disorder by amputating two healthy fingers from his left hand.

    https://people.com/man-amputates-two-healthy-fingers-body-integrity-dysmorphia-8628912

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Some time, people need to listen to Cassandra.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        Doesn't happen.

        It's really frustrating, TBH.

    2. Super Scary   1 year ago

      "The 20-year-old patient claimed he was experiencing “profound distress” and “incessant thoughts” about the fourth and fifth fingers on his left hand, according to a clinical case report."

      This dude wants to be a ninja turtle.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Then he is a ninja turtle. Desire is all that matters.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Can he still slice up pizza with a Samurai sword?
        🙂
        😉

        1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

          Didn’t John Belushi do that back in the 70’s?

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

            Yes. Yes he did.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              When SNL was actually funny.

    3. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

      Watched The Prestige one too many times.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTmPV3AhhnQ

  13. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Everything you ever wanted to know about the forgotten moral panic over beepers.

    Dennis Duffy almost brought them back, dummy.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      "How can we expect students to 'just say no to drugs' when we allow them to wear the most dominant symbol of the drug trade on their belts" - James Fleming, Dade Public Schools, The New York Times, 1988

      "I DID IT SO I COULD MOVE OUT OF DADE COUNTY (or New York, Chicago, New Jersey, or fill-in-the-blank shithole place) AND GET AWAY FROM YOU, DAD!!!"
      🙂
      😉

  14. JesseAz   1 year ago

    An amusing video of a free palestine protestor screaming in fake pain as cops try to remove him from SF bridge. It is all theater.

    https://twitter.com/thegaywhostrayd/status/1780636069479759901

    Should have been real pain.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Should have jyst cut through it's arm

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

        Or leave them there and let the chips fall where they may. Hunger, thirst, lack of sleep, dehydration and moving autos in the dark may be the motivation they need to stop this nonsense.

    2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

      If he was claiming to be in pain, they should have expedited his removal to a hospital. Wouldn't that be the humane thing to do?

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      They could’ve fixed the pain part with amputation.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Should have been a snowplow just pushing them off.

    5. Minadin   1 year ago

      Pallywood has gone international.

    6. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

      Hamas supporters do make a compelling are for police brutality. And nightsticks can absolutely be used during the day.

    7. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Obviously not "our" Fist of Etiquette, a.k.a. Good Fist, although like Fist of Etiquette, he does afford great comedic value.
      🙂
      😉
      Where do these dumb assholes get the idea that self-harm and placing themselves in predicaments is an effective form of protest, especially a protest against an alleged "genocide?"

      1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

        Yet when I put my hand where it doesn't belong no one laughs.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          To paraphrase Terance: "I am Fist, and nothing Fist-friendly is alien to me."
          🙂
          😉

  15. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    As the International Space Station gets retired, are we entering the era of the private space station?

    When will we have private houses of pancakes?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      I believe that's just called a house

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        FDA Food safety regulations specifically prohibit making of 'retail food' in a domicile (place where people live).

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      I'm holding out for the private building code. (as opposed to IBC)

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        ICC (which published IBC and related codes) is a private organization.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          "As a model code, the IBC is intended to be adopted in accordance with the laws and procedures of a governmental jurisdiction. When adopting a model code like the IBC, some jurisdictions amend the code in the process to reflect local practices and laws."
          Still legally enforced.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            Well, Hell, why doesn't some Libertarian smart-apple with a law degree write a Libertarian law code based on the NAP/NIFF and try selling it to various jurisdictions?

            1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

              I don’t know shit about “law codes". We’re talking about building codes.

              1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                I know. That's why I'm asking if the Building Codes can be made by a private entity, why not the whole legal shebang?

          2. Minadin   1 year ago

            It's not written by the government. Local or state authorities adopt or alter it, or don't. Some places don't have any enforced codes at all. Other places amend the code much more restrictively to the point that it's almost unrecognizable (looking at you, California and New York).

            But the people who write it are a heady group of industry professionals: Architects, engineers, contractors, commercial insurance people, building inspectors, etc. And if no jurisdiction had any building code whatsoever, the industry would still write its own standards to follow, because lawyers and liability insurance would dictate that anyway.

            1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

              We routinely have to build to more stringent standards than IBC, FM Global is an insurance company that clients ask us to build to so they can get better insurance rates. My main gripe is that our sector is heavy industry, yet IBC makes us build 7/11 stairs with 100 landings that an 80 year old grandma can climb, when that situation will never happen. The same codes that apply to shopping malls apply to us. That is my gripe.

              1. Minadin   1 year ago

                Wait till you build a hotel in California and have to design to the same standards as San Diego when your property is way up in the eastern Sierra Nevada mountains. CBC is like 'why would you ever need heat in your guestroom AC unit?'

                1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                  This is why I only work in Texas.

                  My friend works out in LA (mostly) and I couldn’t believe the differences in the codes when I first started helping him.

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Mom, the pancakes! What is she doing, I never know what she's doing back there?

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Or whom? (Tell her I said she was great!)
        🙂
        😉

    4. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      You can tell that you're at a Waffle House space station because the clientele look like the bar scene from Star Wars. That and the flashing blue lights of Stormtroopers.
      🙂
      😉

    5. Super Scary   1 year ago

      "era of the private space station"

      I guess at that point living in a pod would be normal.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    What I've learnt moving here is that, no, for genuinely comparable professionals, America is just much richer.

    Yes but some are working very hard to europeanize us away from that.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      You ever notice that Welfare Statism is the only European thing Leftists like?
      🙂
      😉

  17. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Now, merely six months later, "the Maduro government has made several moves that have dimmed the chances of legitimate elections..."

    Like having Lucy hold the football.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      Should have just thrown the barrel off the bridge.

  18. JesseAz   1 year ago

    DA Gaston dropped the charges against Konnech who California paid to track election worker data due to the possible appearance of maybe elections aren't as secure as claimed.

    https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/17/prosecutor-california-da-dropped-bombshell-election-data-case-because-it-might-help-trump/

    1. HorseConch   1 year ago

      Definitely a local story.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      No widespread corruption.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    I would enjoy a debate between him and Trump where the moderators just teed them up, shame-free, to tell the most fanciful bullshit stories about themselves and their families.

    But no doping!

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      But chicks dig the long ball.

  20. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    Totally not a grift.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-operation-asks-republicans-use-fundraising-share-haul-rcna148272

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Where's the grift, Lying Jeffy?

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Another day, another leftist changing the meaning of words to fit their narrative.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          It’s baffling. The Democrats make the exact same request when you use Joe’s likeness or name for your own campaign's fundraising effort, which is to put five percent plus of the proceeds into the national campaign.

          Only a absolute retard would fall for a claim that that’s “grift”.

  21. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    He’s being brought up on 34 felony counts and could face a total of four years in prison if convicted.

    More like three non-crimes counted multiple times by a prosecutor who ran for, and was elected to, office on a promise to find something to charge Trump with. Too many things wrong with this case to even count.

    1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

      The whole thing is based on the completely ridiculous premise that paying off Stormy Daniels was in itself a violation of federal campaign finance laws.

      There is a much stronger case that the payoff violated Sharia law.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        It seems to be premised on the idea that people would have not voted for him if they knew. Which is laughable considering that when he said he could murder someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters, he wasn’t exaggerating.

        1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

          Even if it were true that "people would have not voted for him if they knew", the payoff still would not have violated campaign finance laws.

          I wrote so at the time this legal argument first popped up in Reason.com articles.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Even if it were true that “people would have not voted for him if they knew”, the payoff still would not have violated campaign finance laws.

            And I said "non-crimes" in my original post. Not sure what you're arguing against.

            1. HorseConch   1 year ago

              I think he's agreeing with you. The whole thing is such a high level of bad that if he is convicted, which is likely due to location, our republic will be in a bad way. Setting the precedent of finding a court to ham sandwich any opposing politician is not a positive development.

      2. Super Scary   1 year ago

        “There is a much stronger case that the payoff violated Sharia law.”

        And I am sure the punishment for that violation is more in line with what the dems want to happen to Trump.

      3. BYODB   1 year ago

        The John Edwards campaign already settled this issue, but it doesn't count because it was (D)ifferent.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      You have the right words here. Just wish I could believe them to be honest.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Tulpa hacked his account.

  22. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    A prospective juror that had "lock him up" in its Twitter said it could be impartial.

    The jury selection is a sham
    The judge is a d activist.
    The judges daughter is profiting from the case

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Shoot, this trial is such a sham it would’ve made Joseph Stalin blush out of embarrassment.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Obviously corrupt prosecutor, obviously compromised judge.

      They're doing this as a display of power to the general public.

      There's nothing you can do, the rules no longer matter, we can do this to an incredibly wealthy presidential candidate and former president and we can certainly do it to you.

      America as a constitutional republic doesn't exist anymore.

      1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

        Then democrats should be made to no longer exist.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          We should’ve gotten rid of them in 1865-66 after they pulled their last temper tantrum.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        Now a banana republic. If you can keep it.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Bananas usually go bad fast.

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            "Bananas usually go bad fast."

            Very slowly. That's why bananas were among the first fruit to be exported over long distances in relatively slow boats.

            1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

              Bananas are usually bought when they're edible or right close to it. From there it doesn't last long. You knew that, didn't you?

    3. R Mac   1 year ago

      Video:

      https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1780728168237699366

  23. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

    As the International Space Station gets retired, are we entering the era of the private space station?
    Most people don't know that for many years, NASA's official roadmap for the space station was to de-orbit it as soon as it was finished, since they had no plans to actually use it, and private industry has no use for it. Memory says tourists were interested, and I think some movie production, but NASA sneered at such inappropriate uses.

    1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

      I favor a moonbase staffed by women in mini skirt uniforms wearing purple metallic wigs.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        Mars Needs Women.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          30 Trans astronauts coming right up.

  24. JesseAz   1 year ago

    The case against Trump concerns the falsifying of business records related to hush money payments he doled out following a sexual tryst with porn star Stormy Daniels. He's being brought up on 34 felony counts and could face a total of four years in prison if convicted. Given what a polarizing figure Trump is, there were concerns about how jury selection would go, but it appears to be proceeding rather smoothly.

    Over 100 jurors dismissed isn't exactly smooth.

    But selection has gone smooth because Merchan has decided social media posts showing jurors celebrating Trumps 2020 loss isnt disqualifying. Trumps team had to essentially blow through all 10 strikes they have against jurors, minimum required to allow a defendant. Once those were gone it became easy.

    One example was Merchan allowing a juror who posted lock him up. A strike had to be used.

    Another was a juror saying the GOP won 70 prison seats in 2020. A strike was used.

    Then NBC interviewed a juror selected but then dismissed herself as she couldn't meet the court schedule. In her interview she blamed Trump for trying to kill her family members, her adopted sister, called him racist, etc etc... and she was one not dismissed by Merchan.

    It is a clown show.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      And the pressure campaign to find and pressure Jurors is already started.

      The woman, who was listed as the second juror out of a group of seven chosen on Tuesday, said she had concerns about her ability to be fair and impartial, adding that she was afraid and intimidated by the press. She also noted her friends, family, and colleagues questioned her identity as a juror.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2970425/juror-dismissed-trump-trial-concerns-she-couldnt-be-impartial/

      1. DesigNate   1 year ago

        I’m reminded of the court section of Atlas Shrugged. But you know, Ayn Rand novels are for edgy teenagers.

  25. Roberta   1 year ago

    That’s not a heckler’s veto. A heckler’s veto is an authority using a threat of someone else’s violent response to disruption as an excuse to shut down the event that might attract the disruption.

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      A heckler’s veto is a situation in which a party who disagrees with a speaker’s message is able to unilaterally trigger events that result in the speaker being silenced.

      For example, a heckler can disrupt a speech to the point that the speech is canceled.

      “A heckler’s veto is an authority using a threat of someone else’s violent response to disruption as an excuse to shut down the event ”

      That’s the hoped for results of a heckler’s veto for the heckler. Not the heckler’s veto itself.

      You could say, "authority's use the threat of a heckler's veto as an excuse to shut down the event".

  26. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

    *shrug*

    Given what a polarizing figure Trump is, there were concerns about how jury selection would go, but it appears to be proceeding rather smoothly.

    I wouldn't think it would be that hard in New York to find 12 automatic "guilty" votes.

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      The defense only has to find one “not guilty” vote. In New York that will be a difficult task, but not impossible.

      1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

        The case should not have reached jury selection, because it should have been dismissed.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Yeah no shit. But the reality is that it did.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Have you figured out what lawfare is yet?

            1. Sevo   1 year ago

              That would require a measurable IQ, and this slimy pile of lefty shit can't get on that roller-coaster.

            2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              No worries, all they have to do is find one not-guilty vote.
              Easy-peasy.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The case was moved from Brooklyn to Manhattan based solely on Manhatten having more strong voting dems in the jury pool. Are you okay with this?

  27. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

    "What comes next for Israel?"

    Overwhelming support from every meaningful sector of the US government regardless of which party is in power?

    #GodsChosenPeople

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

      Overwhelming support from every meaningful sector of the US government

      No no no. You're not tuning in to the GOP talking points. Democrats hate Israel and are the real anti-Semites despite gaining 70% of the Jewish vote and 44 out of 45 Jewish Congress-critters. And fighting off the Nazis in the GOP.

      #GOP-Talking-Points-Update

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        We all know the people chanting from the river to the sea are affiliated with the right.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          Because ALL Democrats are pro-Hamas like that slag Rashida Tlaib?

          That is why you wingnuts are liars.

          1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

            Your master, Biden has given billions to the Iranian regime and reinstated foreign aid for Hamas, which Trump had ended.

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              His master Soros did too.

              Groups behind Israel-bashing protests backing Hamas attacks got $15M-plus from Soros

              1. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

                That is unsurprising. I just don’t understand how Soros and his sons have never been assassinated by some clandestine black ops entity.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  Because he funds them? He's one of their legitimate money sources?

                  1. R Mac   1 year ago

                    I’d imagine his personal security is probably better than most heads of state as well.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Nice try, Shrike, but no tamale. Those are all Democrats chanting and blocking traffic.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              True story. One of the companies here makes a Cuban tamale and it is delicious. Your post decided my lunch.

          3. Sevo   1 year ago

            turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
            But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

      2. Sevo   1 year ago

        turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      3. Graf Fuddington von Fuddrick   1 year ago

        The democrat party has always been anti semitic.

  28. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

    Here is Glenn Greenwald on a Supreme Court hearing regarding the Capitol riot.

    https://rumble.com/v4q2p8h-scotus-highly-skeptical-of-biden-dojs-jan.-6-prosecution-theory.html

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Only 350 locked up on this novel interpretation as their own felony. Average sentence 22 months. Sarc and Jeff applaud.

  29. Minadin   1 year ago

    The U.S. lifted oil sanctions, hoping for the best. Now, merely six months later, "the Maduro government has made several moves that have dimmed the chances of legitimate elections, and a frustrated Biden administration on Wednesday announced that it was letting the sanctions relief expire."

    Well, at least Biden's 0-for-everything foreign policy record remains intact.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      And that's his biggest strength per his 2020 campaign.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        I thought uniting the country was his biggest strength?

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

      T'was a SLOPPY PULLOUT! for sure, dude.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        You really are a piece of shit. Only you forgot to also type “Benghazi” in all caps – another one of your iron-clad arguments.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          Yes, turd is a piece of shit; hundreds dead as a result of droolin' Joe's incompetence and this asshole sees it as a joke.
          An ass-reaming with a barbed-wire-wrapped broom-stick seems appropriate here.

      2. Sevo   1 year ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

  30. R Mac   1 year ago

    "the Maduro government has made several moves that have dimmed the chances of legitimate elections, and a frustrated Biden administration on Wednesday announced that it was letting the sanctions relief expire."

    What countries are going to sanction the US?

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      It is (D)ifferent here.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      The Biden administration wants legitimate elections in Venezuela almost as badly as Maduro does.

  31. Sevo   1 year ago

    "Climate change could depress global income by almost 20%, study shows"
    [...]
    "The effects of global warming are expected to depress global income by about $38 trillion every year through 2049..."
    https://scrippsnews.com/stories/climate-change-could-depress-global-income-by-almost-20-study-shows/

    Gee, where's the data for the costs of the proposed mitigation efforts?

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      How much of this is the fake social cost of carbon estimate? A number more bullshit than the Keyenesian

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Why are you even asking questions?

      Governments everywhere around the globe should be cutting back on taxation and spending to combat global income collapse as the result of climate change. And they should've been doing it since yesterday. Whether the people choose to spend that income on LED bulbs, or more efficient cars or a bigger, more efficient LED TV, or even just painting rooms different colors with eco-friendly lower-VOC paints, or having more kids to teach ecology and environmental conservatism to, is up to them, but unless you oppose global income collapse, none of those and other methods of combating climate change are viable. It’s the only way.

      The fact that you’re quibbling over the costs of any given mitigation effort just demonstrates that you’re an anti-income skeptic paid by big oil.

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        "It’s the only way."

        Shop or die. We can shop our way to a better environment or die trying.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          Or, if we're to follow the asshole trueman's advice, we can all wear hair shirts to show how much we 'believe'!
          Fuck off and die, shitbag.

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Maybe my "It's your money earned by your labor, you do what you want with it." point wasn't clear. Nobody *has* to spend money on any or all of the LED bulbs or TVs or more fuel efficient cars or having kids to teach ecology and environmental conservatism to.

            You'd have to be pretty openly and psychotically pro-slavery to seize the fruit of people's labor and dictate how it should be allocated rather than just suggest options and otherwise leave it up to them.

        2. mtrueman   1 year ago

          Shopping makes you free!

          Seig Aisle!

  32. mtrueman   1 year ago

    "Yesterday, Google fired 28 of its workers after employees held sit-ins to protest the company's contracts with the Israeli government. "

    Let's hope they quickly find new jobs. I wouldn't recommend Boeing though, their treatment of employees with the temerity to point out murderous company policies is a lot more severe than firing. Termination with extreme prejudice.

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

      What will it take to get you to follow Aaron Bushnell's example?

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        Let’s hope they quickly find new jobs. I wouldn’t recommend Boeing though, their treatment of employees with the temerity to point out murderous company policies is a lot more severe than firing. Termination with extreme prejudice.

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
      "Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."

      Fuck off and die, shitbag.

  33. R Mac   1 year ago

    Nothing about Biden’s uncle getting eaten by cannibals?

  34. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

    "I refuse to build technology that empowers genocide"

    Goodbye, don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. And by the way, please don't bother asking us for a reference at your next place of employment. We hope you enjoy pushing buttons on the coffee machine at Starbucks as much as we have enjoyed trying to turn you into a productive citizen here at Google.

    1. damikesc   1 year ago

      Phones empower genocide. Electricity empowers genocide. Where, exactly, is her limit on this?

      I assume it's a she. Progressive women are a fucking cancer.

    2. mtrueman   1 year ago

      “We hope you enjoy pushing buttons on the coffee machine at Starbucks”

      Starbucks? It’s a company that also has a record suppressing employees who voice opposition to Israel’s apartheid, genocide, ethnic cleansing, collective punishment, and other crimes. Thousands of Starbucks employees have already been fired over the boycott of their products. McDonald’s, Coca Cola and Nestles also are subject to boycotts due to their complicity in Israel’s actions in Gaza.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        "Israel’s apartheid, genocide, ethnic cleansing, collective punishment"

        Said with the same depth of understanding of those terms as Herr Goering.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          That's a little unfair to Goering; he hadn't the additional knowledge we do now.
          Except for that smug piece shit trueman.

        2. mtrueman   1 year ago

          What's a little genocide between friends?

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Ask Mao.

        3. DesigNate   1 year ago

          I see mtrueman is giving it the old college try to dethrone shrike.

          Better watch out Artie, he’s about to kick you out of your number two spot.

  35. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

    The case against Trump concerns the falsifying of business records related to hush money payments he doled out following a sexual tryst with porn star Stormy Daniels. He's being brought up on 34 felony counts and could face a total of four years in prison

    This is beyond absurd. It's almost to the point where they want to make it obvious they are just manufacturing court warfare against him and whattya gonna do about it?

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      Oh no it’s past that point.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Yeah. As was pointed out in the Bragg thread, once it was clear that there were charges for the predicate action, but not the underlying activity, it was failing the traditional libertarian "Who exactly is the victim?" sniff test.

  36. Outside the Box   1 year ago

    The attempt to spin this as "Google/tech companies are not as woke as they used to be" is unconvincing. The much more compelling Occam's Razor explanation is that it has nothing to do what the employees were protesting, but *how*. That's the way big companies work: they create rules about behavior, and if you stay within those rules you are fine even if you are awkward or uncomfortable, but break them and you're out. The "I will not build technology that supports genocide" person *shouted down a company meeting*: clearly, a big company might want a rule against otherwise wasting thousands/tens of thousands of employee's time. Company meetings are *expensive* in lost labor! You can't afford to let people disrupt them for their pet issues. And the sit in people *physically blocked employees from going about their jobs*.

    The reason Google didn't "crack down" on previous protests wasn't the particular message, but *how* they did it. Signing petitions or holding signs etc that don't disrupt the actual things that Google does to make money are pretty harmless and they simply didn't care.

    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

      I doubt Google wants pro Hamas protestors anywhere near their offices when working on projects for a nation accused of war crimes. I doubt Israel wants terrorist sympathizers anywhere near the projects it's involved with Google.

      1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

        And yet Google has plenty of pro-Palestine employees. Throws a wrench at your claims, doesn't it?

  37. JeremyR   1 year ago

    I think another factor is that there is a big tech worker surplus at the moment, in part thanks to AI. So it's much easier to replace these people

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