Are New Jersey Voters Too Dumb for Normal Ballots?
Democratic Party bosses in the Garden State say that a court order to design better ballots will make it harder to tell voters what to do.

A federal judge has ordered Democrats in New Jersey to draw up ballots fairly instead of putting their favorite candidates at the front. But state Democratic bosses think that voters can't be trusted to figure out how to think for themselves.
Somerset County Democratic Committee Chair Peg Schaffer complained to Politico that it will "cost us more money" to tell voters what to do. "Instead of saying to people 'vote column 1' we're going to have to send them a color-coded card saying where everybody is on the ballot," said Schaffer, who is also the statewide Democratic vice chair.
Hudson County Democratic Organization Chairman Anthony Vainieri Jr., meanwhile, argued that new voting machines were already straining voters' brains, so a non-rigged ballot would just be too confusing.
"If [the judge] was acting to abolish the party lines he should have done it for next year, not this year, because we need more time to educate our voters and for the county clerks to redesign the ballots," he said in a Friday statement. "Residents in Hudson County are still trying to get used to the new voting machines installed last year, especially our seniors, and this is absolutely the wrong time to force such a drastic change on our voters."
Bear in mind that every other state in America already uses the ballots that Schaffer and Vaineiri are complaining about. Under New Jersey's unique "county line" system, party bosses in each county can choose which candidates go in the first column of primary ballots. Other candidates are exiled to "ballot Siberia," their names scattered "helter-skelter" across the ballot.
Being in the first column gives candidates an average advantage of about 38 percentage points, according to an analysis submitted to the court by Princeton University neuroscience professor Samuel S.-H. Wang, who calls the county line a "powerful force to steer voter behavior towards specific choices."
U.S. District Judge Zahid Quraishi issued a temporary injunction on Friday ordering New Jersey to draw up "office-block" style ballots that put candidates for the same office in an equal position—the same style that all other 49 states use—for the upcoming Democratic primary. County bosses are appealing the decision, fighting for their right to control the ballot design.
Quraishi's decision only applies to Democratic primary ballots, but a pro-Trump group called the America First Republicans for New Jersey has vowed to fight the county line system in Republican primaries as well.
Federal courts are intervening thanks to a corruption scandal involving another old-fashioned Hudson County politico. Sen. Bob Menendez (D) was indicted last year for an alleged bribery scheme lifted straight from The Sopranos, involving gold bars and a meat company linked to the Egyptian government. Democratic leaders tried to crown Tammy Murphy, the governor's wife, as Menendez's replacement.
But rival candidate Andy Kim sued to abolish county line ballots and make the primary competitive. Even after Murphy dropped out of the race and county bosses endorsed Kim, he has continued to insist that the county line system is unfair.
"This is not a system I want to participate in," Kim told reporters. "I think it's unfair. That's why I'm trying to change it."
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No widespread fraud.
Exactly, it's all very concentrated in column 1.
The Boss told you you're too dumb for normal ballots. You're too dumb for normal ballots. So shut the fuck up about it...
It's a wonder that they're not claiming that the use of text on ballots amounts to a "literacy test", and therefore the entire system of having voting violates the Voting Rights Act and needs to be replaced with just counting the registration rolls in each state and allocating the votes accordingly (with "no party" registered voters simply being discarded as irrelevant, of course).
The answer is, "Yes, the citizens of the People's Republic of NJ are just too damned dumb for regular ballots"
(not enough ways to cheat)
Isn't New Jersey one of two states that does not allow you to pump your own gas?
Even Oregon is loosening the rules on pumping your own gas. NJ remains as the home of people deemed too stupid to perform this simple task by the state's central planners.
Repealing that law will put thousands of people out of work, you monster!
Having watched Jersey Shoe, I think they really are that stupid.
Yes.
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Yes.
This is kind of surprising:
I would have though he'd drop his complaints once he was the favorite candidate, but credit where credit is due. Maybe has at least some principles. He must be new to politics.
Maybe has at least some principles. He must be new to politics.
A couple years ought to disabuse him of that notion.
NJ and other states shouldn't allow the masses to vote.
Voting creates chaos, and no totalitarian state wants that.
Instead, ban voting like the do in the Proletariat Paradise of Cuba and just let the tyrants rule as Saint Karl Marx wrote.
Just because they are allowed to vote, that doesn't mean their votes mean anything. It is the vote count announced by the party jacks that determine the winner, not those unrelated silly ballot things.
Uncle Jay, people in Cuba vote. Turnout is 95%. In fact, not voting could get them noticed by the authorities.
Cuba avoids the chaos by careful ballot design. One candidate for each office, and the voter votes for that candidate. Or leaves it blank, if they want to risk doing that.
It’s theoretically possible for the pre-approved candidate to lose: “If a candidate were to fail to garner 50% of the vote, a new candidate would have to be chosen. However, this has never occurred.”
If voting mattered they wouldn't let us do it. - Mark Twain
Like how Trump argued that Republicans didn't need a primary at all.
Studies show that placement of names and what order they appear have effects on voting. The lawsuit was regarding the forced order jersey used. Many states will utilize a randomized order of candidates for this reason.
And yes. Most voters are uninformed.
Maybe not, but New Jersey Democrats are too corrupt for normal ballots.
As opposed to the National Dem Party, who seem intent on reducing as many races as possible to having only one candidate listed.
Remember to vote for the party who believes that in a "fair system", they'd be running unopposed and the one that's an "existential threat to democracy". And definitely don't "waste your vote" by even considering anyone not affiliated with either of those two (in a year when 70-80% of voters claim they'd vote for "literally anyone else" but actually can't be bothered to do just that).
Did you hear about the Texas man running as an independent. He actually legally changed his name to Literally Anybody Else before announcing his run.
Don't let either of the Old Men in.
Yes, universal suffrage has utterly failed to live up to the promise of greater freedom.
I'll be the contrarian here.
Why shouldn't a county party e allowed to endorse candidates and give those candidates a preferred place on their primary ballot? After all, a primary is technically an internal party function.
There is no mention in this article about it being a primary ballot. They are referring to the general election.
it is mentioned that this if for a primary ballot about 5 times.
Not only did the article specify a primary ballot, it explicitly stated it applied to the DEMOCRAT primary only.
you have a point.
it is still the kind of crap that makes political parties inherently bad..... but you do have a point. it is a political party's primary.
States should just get out of the business of running primary elections. They are a party function and should be set up and funded by the parties.
I think party affiliation has no place whatsoever on a general election ballot.
I agree, except... primary elections are still funded by the taxpayer. Cut that tie, make parties fully private organizations, and then they can do whatever the fuck they want.
Then it should be paid for by the party.
"Are New Jersey Voters Too Dumb for Normal Ballots?"
Yes, and not just NJ voters.
Apparently, just the Democrats.
I mean, the voters in my municipality voted 75% yes for a bond issue to 'fund street improvements'.
However, if you go to the city website and read the full language of the measure and not just the ballot language summary, what they actually voted for was to implement the recommendations of a 'traffic calming study' that proposes to put things like 'traffic circles' at a bunch of our residential intersections, and 'chicanes' on our residential streets, which will basically turn a number of secondary collector roads into obstacle courses.
Everyone is going to hate this in a few years.
‘traffic calming study’
They did traffic calming in my neighborhood by putting a bunch of islands in the middle turn lane. I'd say there are about 12 of them. In any given week, at least a third don't have the street signs that were planted in the middle (people run over them again and again and again).
People turning at my corner (2 residential streets, 20mph, 4-way stop) have taken out stop signs twice so far in 2024. Can't wait for the 'traffic circle'!
The voting sheep throughout the nation will always do what their party wants because it is too difficult to think for themselves.
Anyone that can't recognize their preferred candidate when they see the candidate's name in print probably shouldn't be voting in that race. I don't know about New Jersey, but in my state, BOTH parties send me a "sample ballot" listing who they support in each race. While it is illegal to distribute them at the polls, it is legal for individual voters to take one with than and refer to it while voting.
It's also legal to "forget" about them and leave them in the booth.
NJ government has a history of treating the public as morons. They are too stupid to vote without being directed on who they should vote for. They are too stupid to pump their gas. They are too stupid to responsibly own guns
And the voting sheep just nod and follow the directions.
This sort of crap is the result of the compromise more or less across the states between the major parties being their own organizations and being arms of the election apparatus. On one hand you can say the parties shouldn't be limited to just mildly favoring their picks by how they arrange the primary ballot, they should just abolish the primary and select their nominees however they want, without state participation. On the other you can say that if you want the primaries to be truly fair, segregation by party should be abolished and the primaries run as non-partisan rounds preliminary to the final election. It's the compromise in between that's clunky and shady looking.
So you want California's Top Two system. Got it.
'Are New Jersey Voters Too Dumb for Normal Ballots?'
The correct question is: Are US voters who might prefer Trump too dumb for normal ballots?
And the correct answer is: Of course they are, and therefore they will get special ballots (that will automatically void their votes).
Because: (D)emocracy!