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Election 2024

The Shittiest Rematch

Plus: TikTok ban, AOC primary challenger, DEI revisionism, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 3.13.2024 9:30 AM

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Rematch from hell: Yesterday, both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump made basically official what we already knew to be true: that they will be facing each other come November, in the worst rematch—a true lose-lose for anyone who cares about liberty.

With Nikki Haley already cleared from the field, Trump had been campaigning as if he was already the nominee. Last night, he clinched wins in the GOP primaries of Georgia, Mississippi, Hawaii, and Washington state. Biden's win in the Georgia Democratic primary sent him over the edge in terms of delegates needed. Now, technically, both will be nominated at their party's respective conventions this summer, but the results that are in indicate they'll be facing each other once again.

"Just 38% of U.S. adults approve of how Biden is handling his job as president while 61% disapprove, according to a recent survey by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research," reports the Associated Press. "The RealClearPolitics average of polls shows 42% of voters say they have a favorable opinion of Trump, up from an all-time low of 36% in December 2022," reports Bloomberg.

"But the combined ratings of the two major candidates are near historic lows," reports Bloomberg, "leaving at least 18% of voters unhappy with both candidates"—a group pollsters call "double haters." (I just call them "sane people.")

The fall guys: "On Friday, the [Republican National Committee (RNC)] voted to install North Carolina Republican Committee Chair Michael Whatley and the ex-president's daughter-in-law Lara Trump, as co-chairs," reports Bloomberg. Then on Monday, more than 60 staffers were fired, a move that "essentially fuses the RNC with the Trump campaign." This is not exactly uncommon: campaign and party ought to be able to work efficiently to advance the selected candidate.

Nor is it unprecedented to select a family member for a major party role (though maybe it should be). Ronald Reagan's daughter, Maureen, was made RNC co-chair in 1987. And, though it's a bit of a different situation, the recently dismissed Ronna McDaniel comes from a political family herself. (McDaniel is a niece of former presidential contender and current Utah Senator Mitt Romney.)

Still, "Trump's decision to announce a new slate of RNC leaders before securing the required delegates to be the GOP nominee angered some Trump critics," reports Politico. "He did so in February, when Nikki Haley was still running for president, and she criticized both the RNC and [former Chair Ronna] McDaniel for trying to push her out of the primary." Trump had criticized McDaniel for her decision to host primary debates, which he did not want to be part of, and has repeatedly lambasted McDaniel, blaming her for the party's cash woes. Someone's gotta be the fall guy, I suppose, but beware a party entirely composed of Trump sycophants, with little eye toward the future after MAGA.

Banning social media that's owned by China? A bill championed by Reps. Mike Gallagher (R–Wis.) and Raja Krishnamoorthi (D–Ill.), who serve in the House of Representatives' Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, attempts to reanimate old fears surrounding TikTok and force the app to either be banned in the U.S. or be sold to different (and government-approved) owners. The House will vote on it today.

The legislation would either force a sale of the company or ban U.S. app stores from letting users access TikTok and any other social media site deemed a "foreign adversary controlled application." Foreign adversaries include China, North Korea, Russia, and Iran. One problem among many: that list of adversaries could expand at any time, and the label could be used in a less judicious way going forward.

Other red flags include the fact that the bill is oddly selective, choosing not to ban all apps owned by foreign nationals, or all apps with ties to foreign adversaries, but rather social media companies in particular—the very sites where First Amendment-protected expression (however inane) get disseminated.

Worse still, the bill's definition of "controlled by a foreign adversary" is overly broad, meaning controlled by "(A) a foreign person that is domiciled in, is headquartered in, has its principal place of business in, or is organized under the laws of a foreign adversary country; (B) an entity with respect to which a foreign person or combination of foreign persons described in subparagraph (A) directly or indirectly own at least a 20 percent stake; or (C) a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign person or entity described in subparagraph (A) or (B)."

Many people worry about possible espionage efforts by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), or the way the CCP might influence ByteDance (TikTok's owners) and alter what American users see in their algorithms during a critical moment. But this new bill should also invite worry, if legislators get their way.


Scenes from New York: In New York, young migrant children sometimes sell candy on the subway to attempt to make a few bucks to help their families. The New York Times did a little digging into which agencies the children ought to be reported to. (Truancy surely isn't desirable, but would NYPD's involvement help matters at all?)


QUICK HITS

  • Turns out there's no market for smearing 9-year-olds over wearing Native headdresses to Kansas City Chiefs games.
  • Disturbing legislation out of Colorado:

So it has all the MANY cybersecurity problems of all age verification bills

It mandates social media companies retain "any data and metadata concerning users' identities and activities" for 1 yr—an atrocious security practice that would attract hackers and and welcome breaches pic.twitter.com/AkYtcbA5E6

— Shoshana Weissmann, Sloth Committee Chair ???? (@senatorshoshana) March 12, 2024

  • Help, I just learned about "TikTok accent"—basically, uptalk and vocal fry—and, though I don't want to be reflexively opposed and curmudgeonly, I hate it.
  • A task force in the U.K. is trying to crack down on black market Ozempic.
  • A 66-year-old finance guy named Marty Dolan is trying to primary Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.), in what he calls "a referendum on common sense."
  • Don't believe your lying eyes, DEI is actually great!

I think my personal fave is that the armies of credentialed groupthink enforcers from our most elite groupthink-enforcing institutions are there to make sure "everyone feels encouraged to express their ideas." https://t.co/2MUUxRQgOh

— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) March 12, 2024

  • Wonder if this is in part because we used to spend much more time outside:

It used to be way more common to be killed by lightning. pic.twitter.com/WX1YiWgRcJ

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) March 12, 2024

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Turns out there's no market for smearing 9-year-olds over wearing Native headdresses to Kansas City Chiefs games.

    Deadspin. Unfortunate name today.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Agreed, I believe the correct term is feather head

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

      Deadspin just like Meatspin.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    It mandates social media companies retain "any data and metadata concerning users' identities and activities" for 1 yr...

    But Colorado has a libertarian governor!

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      So dreamy.

      I haven't seen many "Polis is the libertarian" articles from Reason lately. I guess the gun-grabbing rhetoric made things awkward.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        So Polis is no longer Reason's Governor McDreamy, eh?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Maybe their crush on Haley distracted them.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Colorado has a governor that some leftists like to call libertarian. Polis occasionally supports business and opposes taxes, but they don't (yet) want to use the MAGA label for him.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    A task force in the U.K. is trying to crack down on black market Ozempic.

    Either allow that or outlaw food and risk creating a bangers and mash black market.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      a bangers and mash black market

      Are you trying to summon ENB?

      1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

        That would be bangers and smash Black market.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      I went to a food black market in England, all they had was blood sausage

      1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

        No soul food?

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Black market black pudding.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        The other market had crip sausage.

        1. mulched   1 year ago

          Oh, the Haitian market.

      4. Jerry B.   1 year ago

        Hope you didn’t get a spotted dick.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    A 66-year-old finance guy named Marty Dolan is trying to primary Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.), in what he calls "a referendum on common sense."

    Common sense in that district, eh. It's a bold strategy, Cotton.

    He better identify as a lady of color if he wants in The Squad, though.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

      That would be awesome funny, watching them deny his identity.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    I think my personal fave is that the armies of credentialed groupthink enforcers from our most elite groupthink-enforcing institutions are there to make sure "everyone feels encouraged to express their ideas."

    Individualism is great as long as no one falls out of line.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Nobody needs 15 types of individualism.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        There is no "I" in Diversity.

        1. Ersatz   1 year ago

          no "b" "l" "a" "c" or "k" in 'diversity' either
          or maybe... more correctly

          just sayin'
          😉

      2. Dillinger   1 year ago

        I disagree and so do I

    2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      The sentiment is sincere. It's the only way to identify wrongthinkers.

  6. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

    Trump is the most pro-Liberty POTUS in the last 40 years, so how is that Lose-Lose?

    1. MT-Man   1 year ago

      I haven't seen a slate of alternative choices either from this group. Maybe a thing on RFK here and there. A bunch of just desires to look really cool as the edgy anti-establishment persons.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Great point. Because pointing out how the current options suck without having an alternative means the current options don't suck.

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

          Go fuck off to the Inflation story from earlier today, where your “Defend Biden At All Costs” agenda was exposed. For the Threvethousandth time

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Watch out, he's been threatening to use the mute button again on those who expose his hypocrisy.

            1. HorseConch   1 year ago

              He would have a screen full of gray, Butt Plug and his socks, Jeffy, and not much else if he did that.

            2. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Pretty sure I'm back on the list lol.

            3. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

              How do you mute your own account?

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                The comments are so much cleaner without me responding to the Master Baiters.

                1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

                  The comments are so much cleaner without me responding to the Master Baiters.

                  Your hand gets pretty sticky on a regular basis too.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    Your projection is gross. Like the little girl said, "Ewwwwww!"

                    1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

                      My projection to your tiredly clever play on words? The Ewww is Ewe. You are hardly a clean member of the bait shop. I bet SQRLSY could come up with something equally as trite.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I just figured they came from a family of master gardeners and fishermen, so naturally they'd be master baiters.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Speak for yourself. You troll around for bites to satisfy your own need to constantly play victim.

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      You troll around for bites to satisfy your own need to constantly play victim.

                      That’s why I’ve got the usual suspects on mute right now, and don't miss them at all.

                    5. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Did you cough up your $25 yet?

                    6. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "Speak for yourself. You troll around for bites to satisfy your own need to constantly play victim."

                      I don't think he does it consciously. I think he wants to play the troll for lulz, but the moment people start punching back he honestly thinks he's the victim and everything he does is in good faith. It's a symptom of a very real syndrome called Alcohol Use Disorder.
                      How Alcohol Is Linked to Memory Loss

                      "That’s why I’ve got the usual suspects on mute right now"

                      POST THE LIST!

                      "Did you cough up your $25 yet?"

                      He blew it on box wine on Sunday, so he's going to have to start saving again.

                    7. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Nope. I figure someone will claim the handle though. Won't be me.

          2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Not sure how blaming everything on Biden equals defending Biden, but ok. Whatever you say.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              You dont blame Biden retard. You run in to yell about Trump or claim both sided equal. See your posts on the story about the WH budget.

        2. Roberta   1 year ago

          "The current options suck" compared only to the ideal we would desire. Look back 20, 40, 60 years, and we in the USA and several other countries have soooo much better choices than we used to. Some worse ones too, but choice is choice.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            The current options suck compared to a shit sandwich and a used douche, let alone past choices.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Yet your time is spent yelling exclusively about douche in threads critical of shit sandwich while claiming you don't have a side.

            2. Roberta   1 year ago

              You might as well complain about medical progress because we're not immortal yet. Be realistic about your judgments and method of judging and we might take you seriously. Still, at least you're more credible than HyR bloggers these days.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                If these are the best two options in the entire country, then we're sooooo fucked.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  We're probably fucked anyway.

        3. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Shouldn't you be in the other threads throwing shit at the wall to defend your hero Biden?

          1. I…….. Fudd   1 year ago

            So he’s the one feeding SQRLSY?

        4. Ersatz   1 year ago

          the current option of biden v trump is the ONLY rematch [prez-wise]
          so that makes it at the same time "the bestest" rematch

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            retard vs cripple

            1. Ersatz   1 year ago

              right, biden does tend to fight himself a lot when he tries to think
              but what about trump?

    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      Economic protectionists, anti free traders, and xenophobes everywhere agree.

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

        Please tell us who was more Pro-Liberty. That should be simple

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Trump is less-terrible. But that's like saying terrible times seven is better than terrible times ten. It's still terrible.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Yet all your time, even in Biden threads, is screaming about Trump to defend Biden. Lol.

          2. Roberta   1 year ago

            The world is bad, so the less of the world there is, the better. And yeah, it fucking matters, or else why live?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              All I’m saying is that I can’t vote for either of them. If someone puts a gun to my head and forces me into the polls I’ll vote against Biden. But that’s not going to happen.

              1. Ersatz   1 year ago

                You just can't quit him [Biden] can you?

          3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

            But it is no reason to argue against x7 when the other option is x10.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              I don't see any argument for either. It's like choosing between arsenic and cyanide.

              1. I…….. Fudd   1 year ago

                What do you care? You’re a worthless drunk living in a garbage can like so much Oscar the Grouch.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        And back to the liberal argument of youre a racist xenophobe if you dont want to bankrupt the country paying welfare to illegal immigrants.

        The other two points are exist pablum that he screams while reminiscing about the neocons.

        It is fucking hilarious how he sounds like a 15 year old. No intelligence. No informed argument. Just bumper sticker screams.

        1. Super Scary   1 year ago

          "It is fucking hilarious how he sounds like a 15 year old"

          Even more so with his "neither choice is perfect, so I'm going to take my vote and go home!" attitude.

    3. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      But Trump was mean to media personalities that lied about him and his policies. That is a crime against humanity, those that matter at least, as far as the marxists in the journolist guild are concerned.

    4. shadydave   1 year ago

      I know people like to argue about this, but it's really hard to say it's wrong. I mean that's only because it's such a low bar to clear, but post-Reagan the ranking is probably: Trump, Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama, Bush Sr., Biden. You can argue about placement after Trump.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

        Did they sign a bill sending trillions to the states so they could lock us down?

        1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

          Did they have a rogue bureaucracy springing mystery viruses on them?

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

            Ebola, bird flu, swine flu, sars, AIDs...?

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Read it as sarcs and put a mask on immediately.

    5. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Now that the (L) party is running an actual libritarian candidate reason Refuses to support them

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The leading one is even a reformed liberal, but since the MC selected him he can't be named. He also doesn't want to force you to bake that cake or be antiracist which is terrible too.

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      He signed the Cares Act, so no winner this year.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Except for the "fact" that when he signed a veto-proof bill into law with great self-congratulatory fanfare, he was really forced into it against his will by Democrats.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          And what about the 2 after that dumdum?

          Don't you ways want credit for changing your mind as "facts changed" but have no grace for others that do?

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

            Trump signed 5 bills to Bidens 1 IIFC. After Cares Act Trump signed another two and I think there were 2 more before the Cares Act. Trump signed the last one as he was already leaving office in December.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              See his statements about those bills. The bills passed with 90+ votes. He was against them.

          2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

            Also thanks, now I need a shower. Having to defend Biden on covid, never thought I'd be here. What with his Osha mandates and what not, he's scum of the Earth.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    It used to be way more common to be killed by lightning.

    We were lousy with superheroes, too.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      If only Ben Franklin had not been canceled.

    2. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      I don't know, I think we should ban getting struck by lightning anyway. For the children.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        What about children that identify as lightning rods?

        1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

          I'll get back to you after my next DEI indoctrination training.

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

          We'll carve out an exception for them.

      2. Super Scary   1 year ago

        We need common sense lightning control!

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Have you had the latest lightning booster jab?

    4. ducksalad   1 year ago

      It's due to more permissive morals.

      Used to be you could be struck down for stuff like blasphemy or fornication.

      1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

        Being struck down for blasphemy has made a big comeback.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          But the people doing it now only think they're gods.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The legislation would either force a sale of the company or ban U.S. app stores from letting users access TikTok and any other social media site deemed a "foreign adversary controlled application.

    Constitutions? How do they work?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Nothing like a pen and a phone.

    2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      a foreign adversary controlled application.

      Like the Biden administration?

  9. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    Many people worry about possible espionage efforts by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), or the way the CCP might influence ByteDance (TikTok's owners) and alter what American users see in their algorithms during a critical moment.

    It is (D)ifferent when the US government is doing it.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...beware a party entirely composed of Trump sycophants, with little eye toward the future after MAGA.

    Fortunately or unfortunately the Democrats are similarly (if not more so) shortsighted with their chosen horse.

    1. Z Crazy   1 year ago

      What would the Dem leadership do differently if they WEREN'T being brined or blackmailed by Trump?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...a true lose-lose for anyone who cares about liberty.

    But a win for anyone who likes being perpetually exhausted.

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      But a win for anyone who likes being perpetually exhausted outraged.

      ftfy

      The "IF YOU'RE NOT OUTRAGED YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION" bumper sticker isn't just for leftists anymore.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Nope. Describes you above perfectly.

  12. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    So the rnc fired the democrats and the globalists. Okay, where's the news?

  13. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    Tic tok is not a social media company, it is a ccp psyop/keylogger.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Tomato, tomahto.

  14. Minadin   1 year ago

    The problem: Too many people are commenting favorably on the new Liz Wolfe-written Roundup

    The solution: Charge every commenter $25 for the privilege

    Sounds like a great idea, with the best of intentions. What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Buttplug and KAR will only be able to afford five or six socks apiece now.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        In case you missed it, KAR is so sure that he won't be commenting anymore that he took the opportunity last week to apologize to me specifically.

        https://reason.com/2024/03/07/empire-state-police-state/?comments=true#comment-10477487

        At least we know now that KAR isn't Sarcasmic or jeffy.

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          I'm not sure that was KAR - the comment was not greyed out.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            The chance that anyone would choose to pretend to be KAR and randomly apologize in a mostly dead thread on a Thursday has got to be indistinguishable from zero. It was completely unrelated to the thread or anything else written that day.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Yeah, that was a weird one.

            2. KARtikeya   1 year ago

              I did not say I would not be commenting anymore. Since I don’t know when they will start charging to comment or who will pay I decided to post that asap.

              I think I’m going to wait and see who sticks around. If it’s the same group of people I’m probably out. It’s exhausting being a tragic Cassandra type figure on here.

              Until they implement a paywall I will probably keep commenting.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                What I can appreciate is not expecting people to forget the history. I can get past things people write. I refuse to pretend that it was never written.

                1. KARtikeya   1 year ago

                  That’s fair. I, however, will choose to only remember the good times.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      A tanking in reasons traffic

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Basic government economics. If you want less of something, tax it.

  15. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

    "In New York, young migrant children sometimes sell candy on the subway to attempt to make a few bucks to help their families."

    Fiona told me Democrats genuinely embrace the consequences of their borders-are-racist rhetoric.

    So keep sending them more tiny salesmen! 🙂

    #OpenBordersWillFixEverything

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      They do that shit in Mexico too. Beaches, intersections, cartel shootouts, you name it.

      'Chiclés, Chiclés!'

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        The Mexican equivalent of Junior Achievement.

        Speaking of which, I just checked the JA website and found this:

        OUR COMMITMENT TO DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION (an entire page)
        Junior Achievement USA is committed to ensuring diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) is at the center of everything we do. We at Junior Achievement are dedicated to providing a positive, enriching learning experience free of bias that promotes greater economic opportunity and equity.

        DEI is everywhere!

        1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          Wait, what?
          They are only "free of the bias that promotes greater economic opportunity and equity"?
          WTF?
          Doesn't DEI cover the other kinds of bias?

        2. Minadin   1 year ago

          We did a semester long class of Junior achievement in 7th grade. Our teacher had a stock broker come in and we all got $100,000 of pretend money to invest in the stock market, and then tracked our progress weekly over the course of the 4 months. My group of 4, we spread it fairly evenly across several market sectors: Philip Morris, Nabisco, McDonalds, Anheuser-Busch, and Wal-Mart.

          Every Wednesday morning the guy would come in and all the people in the class would check to see what their stocks were doing. They would cut the stocks doing poorly and buy stocks that were performing better. My group, we played Minesweeper or Solitaire on the classroom computers instead. Never traded a thing.

          We won with the best overall returns, even though we did the least amount of work. Our JA advisor suggested that it was because of our 'Hold' strategy, when other people were cutting losses and buying overpriced stocks. I think it might be because we invested in Booze, Cigarettes, and junk food.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      If only a food truck could be built that could maneuver a subway car. The wealth explosion would create shockwaves all the way to Florida.

    3. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      It is child exploitation and slavery. And it is tolerated in NYC.

      1. Zeb   1 year ago

        Is it slavery if their parents make them do it? Parents are allowed to force their children to work (within reason), aren't they?

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          At least in Missouri, you don't have to pay them for hours worked at a family-run business, under many circumstances.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Pretty sure that's federal.

            1. Minadin   1 year ago

              Well, all of my family's restaurants are in MO.

  16. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

    Biden's win in the Georgia Democratic primary sent him over the edge in terms of delegates needed

    An old man so nice, Buttplug voted twice.

    1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      I thought he went over the edge a long time ago - - - - - - -

  17. Roberta   1 year ago

    ...

    President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump made basically official what we already knew to be true: that they will be facing each other come November, in the worst rematch—a true lose-lose for anyone who cares about liberty.

    No!!! We do care about liberty, and Biden is as bad as you say, but what would Trump have to do to get you to acknowledge him as the most libertarian president in a century? Why would that make the difference, and what about it outweighs all else to tip the scale in this mendacious direction?

    Can I imagine presidential stances better than Trump's? Sure, but I can't see them as having been electable in the past century, or they would've been. I think we're just lucky to have gotten him against the background of the real world as it's been. You can't wait for the perfect candidate for the job, you hire the best out of the reasonable choices you have. The "curve" is the only realistic way to grade, since you can't construct your perfection.

    I'm convinced now that if Milei were an American and Trump Argentinian, you'd be boosting Trump and riding down Milei. And you'd be writing that a Peronist would be the marginally better choice. You just want to convince libertarians to go for the opposite of what we actually want. You're OK with Milei now because you have primarily an American audience and don't care what we think about him. But there are too many of us to gaslight, to hijack the label so contrarily, so what are you trying to do, look stupid?

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "And you’d be writing that a Peronist would be the marginally better choice."

      TBQH the Democrats are worse than the Peronists, and Peronism is fascist.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      It is easy to dismiss Trump if you fail to realize the enemy of good is perfection. As long as he does one thing bad, they can dismiss any good he does. While reluctantly voting for Biden who does everything bad. Republicans are working a bill to remove 288,000 regulations. The biggest impediment will be the democrats and Biden. But Reason will blame the GOP for not passing it.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2917283/republicans-want-to-cut-red-tape-from-288000-regulators/

      The modus operandi here is to equivocate the failure to pass a bill due to democrats with democrats pushing for more regulations. Never supporting bills like above or promoting it.

      Even articles about things like The First Step Act were criticized for not doing enough instead of saying it was a first step.

      It is how they justify reluctantly supporting the DNC.

      1. Roberta   1 year ago

        But that's my question: What is that one bad thing, and why does it outweigh all the good?

        Years ago I could see Reason blaming the Republicans for failing to pass bills like that, by the logic, "We all know the Democrats are so awful, why bother discussing them, they're never going to do it, so it's left entirely on the shoulders of the Republicans to make or break." Kind of like, can't blame the criminals, after all they're criminal and don't care, so blame law enforcement for failures. But after repeated exposure to that tone in recent years, I can't see it that way any more. Maybe they actually did change attitude, or maybe they were concern trolling all along, I don't know.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Bad things to me: bump stock regulation, some of his tariffs that were protectionist like steel, letting Fauci run the narrative.

          But given the dems wanted way worse on all those things, it doesn’t outweigh things like: deregulation policy, no wars, tax cuts, reformation of bad trade agreements, first step, Abraham accords, etc.

          For Reason the bad things seemed to focus more on: mean tweets, muh precious norms, and media hates him so must be bad.

          Eric had an entire article about the 2016 to 2019 growth and showed over 70% of the increase was entitlement growth (largely ACA and expansion of welfare, nothing Trump could fix in isolation) and Payment on the debt. The article still criticized trump for having some of the lowest spending growth from new programs in the last 30 years.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            Reason could support Trump on military conflict and spending alone.

            Trump had very real opportunities to escalate military conflicts and did not. Biden botched the withdrawal in Afghanistan, is all in on Ukraine and is supporting both sides in Gaza.

            Then there is the positions on NATO, where Trump wins hand down. I don’t get it. Reason is fine with forever war because of mean tweets.

            1. GraniteLiberty303   1 year ago

              Mostly its a personality thing, and they don’t trust him to stay consistent on the policies that they agree with him on. There are also plenty of “Cold War” Libertarians still active in libertarian circles like Matt Welch and Michael Moynihan. Their viewpoint on NATO being that it prevents war, and they’re skeptical of any sort of restructuring or scaling back of its protection. To Welch’s credit he is skeptical of its continued expansion (e.g. Montenegro being a member).

    3. Dillinger   1 year ago

      >>but what would Trump have to do to get you to acknowledge him as the most libertarian president in a century?

      hire her away from this place.

      1. Roberta   1 year ago

        Yes, that's unfortunately it. Years ago I indulged the fantasy that reporters here were independent, not mouthpieces. Stossel even wrote about old suspicions out and about that he was paid to make up his mind a certain way, and said it didn't work that way with journalists, they have too much reputation at stake. Then years later he revealed he actually had been, at least once. I forgot the details, but they were quite deflating to me.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          "jornolists are independent thinkers" definitely on the pile of lies I was taught.

    4. Bill Dalasio   1 year ago

      The problem is class loyalty versus ideology. The Reason staffers are all probably (somewhat) libertarian (ideology). But, they're uniformly part of the managerial-technocratic class. Trump, on the other hand, is the champion of the alliance of the working class and the bourgeois remnant. And, for the Reason staffers, class loyalty outweighs ideology. So, even if Trump were some hypothetical One True Libertarian (obviously, he's not), they'd roundly oppose him. Because opposing him is a class requirement.

      1. Roberta   1 year ago

        Thanks for the plausible explanation, Bill D. It's different then from the regime libertarian vitriol 30 years ago against Stern and Ventura.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Trump is Al Czervik, and MAGA is the caddy corps, even the ones who fight with each other. Biden is Judge Smails, and the DNC is the other righteous snobs plus the hired help to beholden to the elite.

        Not sure if the Chevy Chase and Bill Murray characters are the libertarians.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

          Bill Murray is Kamala. Haha.

          Here she is. It’s election night. She enters stage left to the podium. The delegates are present. She steps to the mike and speaks:

          ‘The voters, they’ve voted. And by voting they expressed a preference for the candidate they prefer. The votes are counted, counting one by one until the counting is completed and the count is counted up. There are votes for both candidates. Both candidates have Electors which by voting the voters have voted to have represent their vote. The final tally is in and the voters have spoken for me with a resounding preference – It’s in the hole!’

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            Based on her history of talking in circles, I actually had to look that that up to see if it was authentic.

            1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

              Ha!

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Nah, Carl is deranged enough but far too subversive to be Kamala. I would nominate Spaulding for her equivalent.

    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      what would Trump have to do to get you to acknowledge him as the most libertarian president in a century?

      Not sign the Cares Act. No, participation trophies will not be given out. Either you win the honor or not, he did not.

      1. Roberta   1 year ago

        Do you think any other president in the 90 years would not have signed it or something very close to it? Remember, "most" is a comparator. The winner of the race is whoever get across the finish line first, even if it's because all the others false-started or dropped dead. The trophy will not be melted down.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          I don't care about hypotheticals from alternative timeline; Trump was president, Trump championed it, Trump signed it. Being that was the worst bill towards all sectors of liberty (economic, political, individual) in my lifetime, he doesn't even come close to most libertarian and neither do the rest. Fuck participation trophies, you don't get them from me.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          Also to adress your actual "most libertarian" idea and why I won't answer, it's because you could say the same about 1 of 3 people, Mao, Stalin or Pot. Which is most libertarian? Which the obvious answer is none. Now those are extreme examples but it illustrates that the answer to who is most can be none.

      2. American Mongrel   1 year ago

        Maybe they should start listing some of his libertarian accomplishments?

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          I could, the tax cuts, less violent foreign policy, scotus judges (most part). But then he had to go and blow it all and some by signing the Cares Act and handing the reigns to Fauci and Co.

        2. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Listed above already.

  18. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    The New York Times did a little digging into which agencies the children ought to be reported to.

    They should be sent back to their country. They are not migrants they are illegals

    And on the subject of anchor babies deport the parents and tell them the child will recieve no welfare and no help. They can take it back with them if they want

  19. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    Getting the government we deserve really sucks. But is it worse than getting the government we asked for?

  20. DaveH   1 year ago

    Geez, Liz -- Wouldja please just stop with the X screenshots?

    1. Anomalous   1 year ago

      Don't listen to him.

  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Nor is it unprecedented to select a family member for a major party role'

    As anti-liberty as it might be, how about some kinds of legal restrictions to inhibit family dynasties in government? No more Kennedies, Bushes, Clintons, etc.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

      Go ahead, try to define that. The family part is easy, but not the friends part. The hired position is the real fun part.

  22. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    "basically, uptalk and vocal fry"

    One niece was particularly bad about insert "like" into her speech pattern. The whole family would poke fun at her for it but nothing changed, until a few Thanksgivings ago, when her family came to visit for the whole long weekend. Since I'm just a smidge above zero on the OCD spectrum, I naturally and almost subconsciously count things (stairs, mile markers). So at some point I just started say things like "12", "7", "6". "What are you saying Uncle M?" "That's how many times you said 'like' in that sentence." By the end of the Friday, she was fighting it and had trouble speaking...everytime her mouth started to spit out "like", her brain caught it. By Sunday, she told a whole story without "like", except once, at which point she stopped, and I said "That was a simile, 'like' is perfectly fine there." These days, she barely uses it.

    Another niece does (still, some) the uptalking, and also for some reason uses words like "slay", which I blame on her time at college. She got similar treatment, when I started using uptalk and her vocabulary. It didn't take long for her to say "Stop mimicking me! You sound stupid!" Yeah, she got it.

    That niece went to the "wrong" college. The moment she announced she had been accepted I told her "Congratulations! You're dead to me. Love you!" Of course, after her college years, she's a "fan" of that school and not the one her familial heritage is bound to (big rivals). So whenever I see her I give her a big hug and say "You're still dead to me."

    Ours is a harsh but loving family.

    1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      Sounds like a great family. How does one join? LOL.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        It's almost all my wife's side, and they're great people who give as good as they get.

      2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        Marry a niece, it sounds like.

  23. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Wonder if this is in part because we used to spend much more time outside:

    It depends on how rate is defined. It appears to be number of strike / population.

    The number of strikes remains the same, population grows. Reduces the rate if defined as such.

    Yglesias isn't that smart.

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      It's probably also reflective of the shift from rural to urban and the prevalence of large, conductive structures even near those rural areas.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

      Having 6x the population of 1900 with the same number of strikes accounts for the bulk of it, but communication has to be the #1 factor in decreased deaths from lightning. Getting early warning of an incoming storm would have a far greater impact than anything else.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        Pretty much every golf course I've ever played announces lightning danger, and blows the horn to clear the course, and won't let play resume until 30 minutes after the last lightning is reported. Where I used to be a member they had a detector (Thor Guard) on the course.

    3. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      Yglesias is a complete moron. Always has been.

    4. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      Hope you didn’t get a spotted dick.

    5. CharlesWT   1 year ago

      Indoor plumbing and electrical wiring reduced the number of people killed by lightning inside buildings.

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Banning social media that's owned by China?'

    If we can require labels on cigarettes that say "This Shit Will Kill You", how about labels on social media apps that pop up frequently and say "Company X is recording everything you do here, and selling that info to the highest bidder"?

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      Young people simply assume that and don't care.

      1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

        Nothing they're doing on TikTok is worth caring about, or worrying that China will record, anyway.

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

      labels on social media apps that pop up frequently and say “Company X is recording everything you do here, and selling that info to the highest bidder”?

      You can put that label right on the phone, no need for the app.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    ‘In New York, young migrant children sometimes sell candy on the subway to attempt to make a few bucks to help their families.’

    I hope those candies are not sold as loosies.

    But it would be better if they got food trucks, right?

  26. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Whoa! Chocolate lovers must really hate Biden!

    Cocoa futures rose to a fresh intraday record, topping $7,000 in New York for the first time, as supply concerns drive a rally that shows no sign of offering relief for chocolate makers.
    .
    The most-active contract jumped as much as 5.5% to $7,096 on Tuesday, bringing gains for the year so far to about 68%. Higher costs have placed pressure on chocolate makers, as output in top growers Ivory Coast and Ghana continues to buckle amid adverse weather conditions and structural concerns like aging, diseased trees.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-12/cocoa-rises-above-7-000-a-ton-for-first-time-in-new-york

    Now, you would think that lower supply caused by disease and weather would restrict supply and cause prices to spike.

    But no! According to Mother Lament and his newfangled dumbass conservative economics higher cocoa prices are all Biden's fault! Because Joe cancelled a Canuck pipeline that never carried a drop of oil and US has the reserve currency.

    You see, conservative economics don't fuck with supply and demand. It's all Biden's fault! Blame Biden when your KitKat bar costs .25 cents more!

    The situation has prompted chocolate makers like Hershey Corp. to hike prices, shrink packages and push new products that use less cocoa.

    FUCK YOU JOE BIDEN!

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Wow, for a fat old pedophile you're quite the mental gymnast. Somehow you've attempted to equate adverse weather conditions in Ghana with rampant inflation across the board in the US.

      This is why Open Society fired you, Pluggo. Because of low quality shitposts like these which would only trick Sarcasmic...

      That said, I'm not entirely convinced that this one isn't Jesse spoofing you.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        He's just unhappy that the chocolate bars his comrades use as bait will go up in price again.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          He’s upset his overhead just went up.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        I wish I could be as stupid as sarc or shrike. But I can't.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          They really are nature's marvels.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            In any other time period, a cave bear would've removed them from the gene pool in short order.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      ""Now, you would think that lower supply caused by disease and weather would restrict supply and cause prices to spike.""

      From someone who blames Trump for the pandemic causing havoc on our economy and credit Biden with the post havoc growth as we recover from the pandemic.

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Turns out there's no market for smearing 9-year-olds over wearing Native headdresses to Kansas City Chiefs games.'

    How about the market for smearing natives for wearing pants while shopping at Walmart?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Dead spin is also the group that wouldn't give the identity of the superbowl shooters because they were minors

  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Help, I just learned about "TikTok accent"—basically, uptalk and vocal fry—and, though I don't want to be reflexively opposed and curmudgeonly, I hate it.'

    Liz, embrace your inner curmudgeon. And welcome to the club.

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      Wait till she gets an actual lawn.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Not in NYC.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Those people fight over the parking space they "own" in front of their tenement.

    2. Anomalous   1 year ago

      Too much tolerance is intolerable.

    3. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      WTF is vocal fry? and uptalk?

      What is this shit?

      Damn, I am not even a fucking Boomer and I feel old.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        I am pretty sure up-talk is what we used to call Valley Girl speak, when every sentence has an upward inflection at the end, like a question.

        But I have no clue about vocal fry.

        1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

          An example of vocal fry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDfJn1kcQuU

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

            Thank you!

          2. ducksalad   1 year ago

            Seriously, people, if you don't know what vocal fry is, keep your innocence and don't watch that video.

            Once you learn to notice it, it's everywhere and you can't stand it.

            1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

              I am going to lose my innocence now, and see the clip.

              1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

                ducksalad, you were right.

                I do hate that vocal fry, and it IS everywhere, especially in retail.

                To the rest of youse....don't bother with the link, ducksalad is right.

                1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

                  Thank you sooo much!

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Brilliant.

            BTW I am really enjoying Loudermilk. Highly recommended for people who enjoy grouchy commentary direct at whatever human failings you don't like.

          4. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Here's another video on it, much longer and more descriptive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0yL2GezneU&ab_channel=DrGeoffLindsey

            An exploration of vocal fry: what it is, who does it, what it means–and why some people hate it!

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          Think of Shere Khan in the Disney's version of The Jungle Book.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Vocal fry is when girls deliberately put that creaky tone in their voice. This was big in valley girls. Uptalk is rising in intonation at the end of your sentence and making everything sound sort of like a question.

        1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

          Yeah, it's nothing new. Overused though.

  29. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>a true lose-lose for anyone who cares about liberty.

    meh. T is running a Clinton '92 campaign

  30. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Just 38% of U.S. adults approve of how Biden is handling his job as president

    it shouldn't but still surprises me 38% of US adults want America destroyed.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      How else can they save democracy?

  31. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Nor is it unprecedented to select a family member for a major party role

    Ronna McDaniel is a Romney is it unprecedented to inject a family member of the establishment as an insider?

  32. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>It used to be way more common to be killed by lightning.

    Caddyshack is a useful life skills tool

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Be the ball.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      BTW, thanks for the Caddyshack prompt, that made me think about how to use it to interpret the Biden-Trump contest. See my reply above.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        there's a Greenskeeper = Fetterman joke in there but Fetterman recently has been somewhat cogent

  33. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Turns out there's no market for smearing 9-year-olds over wearing Native headdresses to Kansas City Chiefs games.

    that kid hasn't worn it in Philly yet.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Shout out to Chief Zee.

  34. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>A 66-year-old finance guy named Marty Dolan is trying to primary Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    who isn’t?

    edit: oh, you meant electorally.

  35. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>basically, uptalk and vocal fry

    the entire San Fernando Valley c.1980 is on line 2

  36. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

    Has anyone else read the transcript from the SC Hur interview of POTUS Biden? I am shocked at just how cognitively challenged POTUS Biden is. And that SOTU was a disaster.

    Who is actually running the country? Cuz it ain't Crooked Joe.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      O.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Your betters. Ask the Rev.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

        If only I knew

    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Big Barry's third term.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        Clinton's fifth term?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Now that's a WWE match I would like to see: Obamas vs Clintons.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

            Someone is falling from the rafters and it won't be Hillary.

    4. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Posted some of Joe's amazing tangents in the sullum thread. Old dementia patient.

    5. Super Scary   1 year ago

      " I am shocked at just how cognitively challenged POTUS Biden is."

      No no no! He's just old! That's all it is! Everyone is complaining about how oooooooold he is. /gaslight

  37. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

    It would seem to me that our military's reliance on Chinese made parts is more of a security issue than Tik Toc.

  38. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    If tiktok is such a national security risk, skip the silly bans, and arrest everyone using it for treason.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Hello Rico!

  39. Z Crazy   1 year ago

    I thought the Dem leadership would get rid of Brandon.

    What does Trump have on them that they would keep Brandon?

    1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Kamala?

      (actually, just wait for the convention. The dems want Trump, and everyone, to waste a lot of time and money and effort on fighting Biden before they suddenly discover he is a senile old fart and bring in the "new and improved" version of fascist to take over)

    2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

      Who are they going to run?

      Harris?

      Newsome?

      *BERNIE!?*

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

        *BERNIE!?*

        It’s his turn!!

  40. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'The Shittiest Rematch'

    So far.

    I will bet we are far from the worst ever.

    1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Wait until a sandbag actually kills Biden, and we have Kamala running things.

      This election is the most specific in history.
      We have recent administrations to show exactly what the victor will do. One thing the democrats have right, this is an election to save democracy. Just decide which democracy you want to save.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        No chance for "None of the Above"?

        1. Ska   1 year ago

          Richard Pryor died a while ago.

  41. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

    Rematch from hell:

    Are you kidding? this is going to be so entertaining.

    1. Zeb   1 year ago

      It would be a lot more fun if fewer people I know didn't take it so seriously. A lot of people do seem to have convinced themselves that Trump being reelected is actually a road to dictatorship, or some such nonsense. I have some hope that if Trump wins again, some of his opponents will realize that doubling down on the same bullshit isn't the right response to the Trump phenomenon. But not very much.

  42. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

    "Trump sycophants, with little eye toward the future after MAGA."

    There is no future after MAGAt, only a continuing slide towards the abyss. Trump has two issues: immigration and trade war. His supporters support him because he's a pugnacious outsider who pretends to understand them and plays to their disaffection.

    1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

      And Biden has . . . nothing. And his supporters support him because he's an insider who pretends to understand them and plays to their disaffection.

      1. Zeb   1 year ago

        Yes, you are both correct. I'd say Trump is definitely preferable, but I doubt he will shift the general trajectory of things much. But I hope it means that we might get a smarter, more consistent outsider some day who might be able to make a difference.

        1. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

          Hope is a wonderful thing, and I hope you're right.

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          This is what I'm hoping. Trump broke the paradigm and I pray it stays broken,

        3. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          Trump might have a hard time finding a cabinet.

  43. Incunabulum   1 year ago

    >a true lose-lose for anyone who cares about liberty.

    No one who has paid attention over the last 24 years could say that with a straigth face.

    No one who saw Obama, then Trump, then Biden, could be afraid of Trump.

    1. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      ^this. Absolutely impossible to think freedom will somehow get better under 4 more years of the biden admin

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