The White House Claims Borrowing $16 Trillion Over the Next Decade Is Fiscally Responsible
If you can't even get close to balancing the budget when unemployment is low, tax revenues are near record highs, and the economy is booming, when can you do it?

The budget plan President Joe Biden unveiled on Monday would hike taxes, increase federal spending to unprecedented levels, and lock in budget deficits that average nearly $2 trillion annually for the next decade.
But possibly the craziest detail is the fact that the White House is trying to frame all of that as being an exercise in fiscal restraint.
No, really. In a "fact sheet" released alongside the budget, the White House touted how the proposal would cut the deficit by $3 trillion over the next 10 years. "Strong and shared growth that benefits all Americans isn't just good for working families and the economy; it will also lead to better fiscal outcomes," the administration claims, adding that Biden believes "long-term investments in our nation and its people should be paid for."
Someone in the White House might want to Google what the phrase "paid for" actually means, because Biden's budget assumes the federal government will keep borrowing at near-record levels for the next decade.
For fiscal year 2025, which begins on October 1 of this year, Biden is asking Congress to spend $7.3 trillion while the federal government will collect just $5.5 trillion in taxes. That will necessitate borrowing $1.8 trillion to make ends meet. Over the 10-year window covered by the president's budget plan, federal revenues would exceed $70 trillion, but Biden is proposing to spend $86.6 trillion.
This is what "paid for" looks like, apparently.
So what about that $3 trillion reduction in deficits that the White House is promising? That number is the result of comparing Biden's 10-year budget plan against the current baseline projections for deficits. It doesn't mean the debt will fall, or even stop rising—we'd have to run a surplus for that to happen. It only means that, if enacted, Biden's plan would result in the national debt being $3 trillion lower in a decade than what's currently projected.
But simply piling up debt at a slightly slower rate shouldn't pass for fiscal responsibility—not when the government is already $34.5 trillion in debt, and when Biden is proposing to borrow more than $16 trillion over the next 10 years. (And keep in mind that those figures don't account for any unexpected crisis—a recession, a war, etc.—that might push the government to borrow even more heavily.)
"The level of borrowing under the President's budget would be unprecedented outside a war or national emergency," notes the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonprofit that advocates for lower deficits.
Running annual budget deficits well in excess of $1 trillion makes even less sense when you consider the current economic environment. The unemployment rate in the United States has been under 4 percent for more than two years. America's economy grew faster than any of the world's other major economies over the past year. We are relatively at peace. Tax revenue is hitting levels not seen since the 1960s, and Biden is proposing to raise taxes on corporations and wealthier Americans.
Put simply: If you can't even get close to balancing the budget under those conditions, when can you do it?
The White House should have the intellectual honesty to tell the American people that it expects them to continue financing an unstable pile of debt that will burden their children and sap long-term economic growth. To claim that this budget is fiscally responsibility merely adds insult to injury.
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I'm sure it's only a reluctant and strategic opinion, Eric. Don't sweat it.
Facts changed! Nobody knew he had a campaign website.
Inflation is profit!
Biden is and has been for decades a stupid and lazy man.
Why even dignify this with a discussion as if anything is really at issue.
Biden and everybody that did this will be dead and you will pay.
'The White House Claims Borrowing $16 Trillion Over the Next Decade Is Fiscally Responsible'
If you don't agree, you don't understand what "fiscally responsible" means. Like "democracy" and "free speech" these terms all imply support for DNC one-party rule.
To be fair, inflation will cut the value of those $16 trillion by several times, assuming inflation is happening (which it totally isn't).
Why be just "fair" when you can be "spectacularly brilliant?"
when unemployment is low, tax revenues are near record highs, and the economy is booming
But why does wingnut.com says the economy is in the shitter?
(there goes Eric shilling for Joe again - using things like GDP and UE "statistics".)
THE STATITICS IS ALL COOKED! RESERVE CURRENCY! BLERP!
("Reserve currency" is the new Dumbass Signal. 100% reliable. The moron repeating it is just channeling shit he read on some lame ZeroHead post)
ZeroHead - where dumbasses doom signal.
Continues to show how ignorant he is of the economy. Amazing.
Shows how ignorant most Americans are of the economy.
All spending under Trump’s reign not his fault. All fault goes to Democrats Congress. They forced him into it. It’s unfair to call it “Trump spending” because it wasn’t his fault. It was all “Democrat spending.” Anyone who says otherwise has TDS.
All spending under Biden’s reign is his fault. Republicans in Congress are blameless. He forced them into it. It’s unfair to call it “Republican spending” because wasn't their fault. It’s all “Biden spending.” Anyone who says otherwise has TDS.
DERP! RESERVE CURRENCY! BLERP! BRICS! BECK SAID TO BUY YER GOLD BOYS!
Trump tends to have the budgetary restraint of a typical New Deal Democrat, which makes him to the far right of the current Democrat Party.
Donnie has no "budgetary restraint".
He only wanted to kill Obamacare out of spite and then replace it with something "bigger and better" called Trump-Care.
Probably just another lie though.
Everything is relative. Bill Clinton was almost Conservative when compared to Biden.
Awe, poor sarc.
Wait a minute! Now it's "poor sarc" instead of "pour sarc"? Did Are Mack Who Talks and Snorts Smack, FINALLY graduate grade school?!?!?
If so... Cunt-Gratu-titillations, Are Mack Who Talks and Snorts Smack!!!!!
This is the white house budget request you fucking moron.
Biden's not responsible for what comes out of the White House.
I thought you knew that.
Well, to be fair the guy in the Big Chair often gets blamed for what underlings do. I really doubt Trump made some of the really idiotic choices of his 4 years either. He had a hostile cabinet that served the swamp. In Bidens case he's just a figurehead for a cabinet that doesn't give a shit about anything other than re election.
It's not all his fault, any more than it is any other executive's, but he certainly hasn't pulled back on the reigns at all.
I mean, his administration put out this proposed budget. This is their plan. Congress didn't make it. They have to own at least what they are proposing.
And it takes some really fuzzy-thinking 'new math' type mental gymnastics to call a $16T increase in debt a reduction of $3T.
Do you even boaf sidez bro?
I was just repeating what's been said ad nauseum in these comments. Specifically that Trump was not responsible for any spending on his watch while Biden is responsible for all spending on his watch. The typical tribalist dishonest bullshit.
Not only is he too dumb to not realize the article is about the WH budget request, he has to also invent strawman arguments to look even dumber.
It's also absolute bullshit to pretend that the requested budget is the totality of what he is attempting to spend. He pushes a new big spending bill every month on top of the budget and his unauthorized spending (such as student loans.)
Even entertaining the premise gives undue credit
The bill also proposed 500B a year in New taxes. Sarc won't complain about this despite his constant cries about 50B a year on tariffs. So he resorts to both sides rhetoric to not have to criticize his president.
Why is it that Republican president Trump bears no responsibility for spending while Democrats had the House, but Democrat president Biden bears all the responsibility for spending done while Republicans have the House?
Trump was no fiscal conservative (unless you compare him to Biden) and was especially loose on spending during the pandemic year, but I don't think that his administration ever proposed a 7.3 trillion dollar budget.
True. I'm not defending Biden at all. Just questioning any suggestion that Trump was fiscally responsible.
Yes. You are defending Biden. Every post here is either a post against Trump or cries for both sides in an article about the WH budget proposal. Your entire motivation was deflect and distract.
If your choice in November is one of these two, and your goal is to (hopefully) reduce, or at least (more practically) restrain, the federal budget, which horse do you choose?
None of the congressgrifters in either tribe will quit spending until debt can't be peddled because no one will buy it at any interest rate. So until a majority of solons are like Massie or Paul it's take your pick of Syphillis or HIV, a no win situation.
I think we should cut both Trump and Biden some slack on the Pandemic Spending. The last time there was that much panic the Federal Reserve was still in diapers and voters expected more fiscal restraint from their government. These days voters on both sides expect the gubiment to open the flood gates and let the money flow when the crisis isn't half as bad as the CDC made Covid out to be.
What were either of them to do? Neither one is a Jefferson or Coolige to be able to say, "Sorry, this is not the business of the Federal Government." They were going to be active, or at least look active. Voters demanded it. Unions demanded it.
I actually think that we should cut Biden more slack on pandemic spending, since spending in general is kind of his go-to thing. He's like the retarded kid (Ralph) from the Simpsons meme. 'I'm helping!'
I was really disappointed in Trump in this aspect. Not that I had super-high expectations, but still.
Yes, that Trump did nothing to protect us from COVID fascism was a great disappointment. But then, he's never shown much enthusiasm for Constitutional rights.
Boehm are you calling for cruelly slashing the budget over the next ten years to austerity levels? How heartless are you?
There is no incentive to deal with spending rationally, especially from the party that sees the public fisc as an unlimited cornucopia that they can distribute to their voters.
Which party is that? The one with the purse or the one with the pen?
The one who is currently holds the federal executive and the upper house of the legislature, and whose last remaining brakes on spending are going to be leaving public office after this year.
It’s been made abundantly clear in these comment that the Democratically controlled House had all the spending power when Trump was president, and Republicans were just along for the ride.
Now that Republicans control the House they have no power over spending?
Seems like a really pathetic party if they have no power over anything no matter what parts of the government they control.
You must be forgetting 2017-2018 when Republicans owned the White House, Senate, and House of Reps (fiscal conservative wunderkid Paul Ryan was speaker).
You do recall all the spending reductions back then?
(help me because I don't recall any at all)
That was because of Democrats, duh.
Where did I say that the GOP was controlled by fiscal hawks? They are just hawkish relative to the Democrats, and that will be even more the case after Manchin and Sinema are out of the Senate.
There is almost no political incentive to restrain spending, but the only nod given to trying reduce the deficit by Demicrats are tax hikes, which they eat up with with new spending immediately.
They are just hawkish relative to the Democrats
The deficit increases no matter who is in power. Saying Republicans are hawkish relative to Democrats is like saying they want to fly off the cliff at 120 mph instead of 150 mph.
this is what the tribalism makes people blind to. fiscal responsibility is not a reason to vote for R's or D's...... both parties have had their chance to prove they don't actually care about it at all. if you use it as a reason to support either one of them, you are a chump.
In my opinion, anyone who supports or defends either party is a chump.
true. this is just an issue where even the stupidest should be able to see it.
As always I can't tell if those who don't see it are stupid or dishonest.
From the guy who rushed into a thread screaming both sides in an article solely about the WH Budget Request. Lol.
Can never criticize a dem, claims he has no team.
Yes, but why are you sticking up for the party which screeches if the accelerator for spending is not through the floor?
Outside from Manchin and Sinema, who are generally castigated by their party for trying to slow the acceleration, where among the Democrats is any call for reducing the rate of spending growth?
There is at least a small faction within the GOP who are not pariahs within their party's ranks.
What gave you any reason to think I’m sticking up for anyone?
Both parties are terrible. Sure they’re relatively less or more terrible than the other on different topics. But they’re still measured in terribleness. Terrible times seven may be less terrible than terrible times ten, but it’s still terrible.
Yet 99% of your posts only complain about one party even in threads about the other party.
The voters want to see action and action isn't free. Lots of action means lots of borrowing since voters also don't want to pay for action. They just want to see it.
This article is about the Whitehouse budget proposal retard. Not the passed budget. How fucking dumb are you?
""long-term investments in our nation and its people should be paid for." Ah, sure. But by whom? Leave it in the private sector, Joe.
I wonder if the CIA is conducting secret hallucinogenic drug experiments on high US government officials to see if we can covertly induce the Russian polemarch and the Chinese hegemon to bankrupt their countries. Maybe Rand Paul should ask them questions at a Senate committee hearing?
It is so bad at this point it does seem it could be on purpose.
"long-term investments in our nation and its people should be paid for ... by someone other than the government!"
There! FIFY!
The White House should have the intellectual honesty to tell the American people that it expects them to continue financing an unstable pile of debt that will burden their children and sap long-term economic growth.
When hasn't that been the plan?
1912.
The White House Claims Borrowing $16 Trillion Over the Next Decade Is Fiscally Responsible
Well, it could have been $20 trillion.
No one wants to spend more than progressives.
Tax dollars to pay for all your basic needs including income.
>>The White House should have the intellectual honesty to tell the American people that it expects them ...
the White House does not have authority to expect anything from me.
Is the network broadcast and print media raising alarm bells?
how about Moody's and S&P
Remember back in the 90's when Democrats proposeds reducing the rate of growth in spending, and Republicans accused them of wanting to starve kids and throw grandma out of her home, and the media just went along with it?
Yes. I do. Just goes to show politicians are only good at one thing, getting elected.
And thats why Javier has my vote come November.
"The White House Claims Borrowing $16 Trillion Over the Next Decade Is Fiscally Responsible."
Put this idea under the "You Can't Make This Shit Up" file.
and look at all the pathetic shills come here and defend it
Put simply: If you can't even get close to balancing the budget under those conditions, when can you do it?
Answer: never
It will never happen. They will never stop borrowing. They will drive us all over the cliff.
Borrowing is a two-way street. It requires that people invest in government bonds.
The borrowing will stop when investors lose confidence in treasury certificates and stop buying them.
Then things are going to get really messy.
i think that is the cliff he speaks of.
Anyone who thinks this high speed monorail of debt and inflation can ever be stopped before it goes flying off the inevitable cliff, much less slowed down so some can jump off, is suffering from delusions so powerful that they need to have their blood tested for extremely high levels of hallucogens.
The only question to answer is what will come after our economy crashes and burns in the bottom of the canyon? Will the voters demand it all be put back as it was and start the train speeding toward another cliff or will they show some fucking brains and demand a reset to a government that can't manage to do this ever again.
If the second who will be there to offer such a government and how will they sell it? Voters are not big on taking responsibility for their own actions much less for the consequences of their votes.
Democrats started their attack to destroy our Union in 1861 and they will not stop until they have successfully dismantled and destroyed our republic. They're very comfortable using fiscal warfare to bankrupt and crumble the country!
No rational person can decide if borrowing any particular sum of money is prudent or foolish without knowing the purpose for which the money is borrowed. Gov't, unlike businesses, have mandated expenses for defense, the general welfare, etc. which are unrelated to making a profit. While it is wise to spend money so that it enhances the overall profitability of the nation, there is no sane reason for a direct link between spending money and revenue. The Interstate Highway System is an example. We'd all be much poorer if Eisenhower had not constructed the system, and society, us private people, benefit the most when there are no tolls.
No rational person can expect someone borrowing money that they don't have to pay back to be as prudent as someone who is actually on the hook for the borrowed money.
Taxes are tolls. Roads aren’t built for free.
This isn’t my list, it’s Rand Paul’s, but it’s the reason no rational person can imagine the federal government is prudent in its expenditures – for anything.
After reading through this list, paying the pensions of Ukranian officials looks downright responsible (it’s not).
But knock yourself out. No one’s buying it. No Interstate highway here.
TV Commercials to Promote Christmas Trees at Christmastime: $50,000
Yoga Classes for Federal Bureaucrats: $150,000
A Study to Figure Out Why Americans Don’t Want to Use the Metric System: $188,000
Paid for Children from Pakistan to Travel to the U.S., Attend Space Camp and Visit Dollywood: $250,000
A study About the 1972 Video Game Pong: $350,000
A Made-for-TV Professional Cricket League in Afghanistan: $850,000
A Wine-Making Studies Curriculum for Community Colleges: $853,000
Research on the Effectiveness of Golf Equipment in Space: $15 Million
A Gas Station in Afghanistan That Practically No One Can Use: $43 Million
Allowed School Lunch Program Funds to Pay for Lawn Sprinklers, Among Other Things: $158 Million
Four dollars a gallon gasoline is quite a sufficient toll for the use of the public roads.
“Someone in the White House might want to Google what the phrase "paid for" actually means.”
It means taxes will go up on corporation income (since increased costs for the companies won’t affect prices) and the rich.
brought to you by the political party that supports taxing unrealized capital gains ... quite possibly the most idiotic and destructive economic policy/concept ever imagined ... if you wanted to stomp out the long run annual appreciation of the stock market this is how you would do it
Dateline 06 July 2023: COCAINE FOUND IN WHITE HOUSE!
Dateline 12 March 2024: “WHITE HOUSE: BORROWING $16 TRILLION OVER NEXT DECADE IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE”
Yeah, those two headlines make perfect sense when taken as a whole. Just sayin'.
“an unstable pile of debt that will burden their children and sap long-term economic growth.”
That’s putting it ridiculously mildly. It will destroy us, leaving our children to rebuild amid smoking ruins.
We're spending more to service the debt right now than we're spending on national defense. I'm tired of having my intelligence insulted by this administration.
He's not really President, he's just a small town crook from Delaware.
The White House should have the intellectual honesty to tell the American people that it expects them to continue financing an unstable pile of debt that will burden their children and sap long-term economic growth.
It should have the intellectual honesty to tell the American people that they're turning control of global power over to Communist China.
Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
-Mencken