Does This Laundry Look 'Historic' to You?
Plus: Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs dithers over whether to veto bipartisan Starter Homes bill, Biden says "build, build, build," and Massachusetts sues anti-apartment suburb.

Happy Tuesday, and welcome to another edition of Rent Free, where we cover the trials and tribulations of YIMBY reforms. This week's stories include:
- A weird bipartisan mix of Arizona legislators passed a far-reaching bill to make owner-occupied "starter homes" easier to build. It's anyone's guess if the governor will sign it.
- On housing, President Joe Biden says "build, build, build." Does he mean it?
- Massachusetts sues the town of Milton to enforce state upzoning law.
But first! A word about this week's lead story.
Longtime followers of YIMBY/NIMBY battles will recall the case of San Francisco man Robert Tillman trying to redevelop his laundromat over the objections of activists who wanted to landmark the allegedly historic structure. Amazingly, another city is now wrestling with whether to landmark its own historic laundry.
Phoenix Says Aging Industrial Laundry's Ceiling Too Nice to Demolish
The city of Phoenix is in the process of landmarking an old, industrial laundry complex to protect its wooden ceiling architecture, over the objections of the property owners who say bringing the 100-year-old buildings up to code would cost millions and legally preserving the structures would destroy the value of the land.
"We've never asked for any tax abatements, we never asked for asked for historical [landmarking], we never wanted it registered," says Marylin Milum who, along with her husband Craig, has been trying to demolish the old buildings and sell off the property to a developer. "This is our retirement."
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When the Milum family acquired the property in the 1950s, a commercial laundry had already operated on the site for 30 years, reports The Real Deal. The septuagenarian Milums closed down the laundry on-site in 2020, around the time when they decided they wanted to sell the land.
In October 2023, the couple applied for demolition permits to raze the laundry buildings, which they hoped would make the site more attractive to a developer-buyer.
As a pro forma part of reviewing the demolition permit of such an old building, Phoenix Historic Preservation staff researched the property and found it an obvious candidate for historic preservation.
City reports praise the buildings' "outstanding" 20th-century brick commercial architecture, "Streamline Moderne" design, and, particularly, its vaulted lamella roofs as architectural features worth preserving.
The fact that a laundry has operated on the site for roughly a century connects the buildings to the theme of early Phoenix commerce, which also makes it a good candidate for preservation, says Helena Ruter, a historic preservation officer with the city.
In November, the city's Historic Preservation Commission initiated the process of applying historic preservation zoning protections to the property. That same month, they also denied the Milums' demolition permit applications.
The Milums appealed that denial, claiming an economic hardship.
Letters submitted to city preservation officers by the Milums' real estate broker cite an engineer who'd surveyed the property quote of $10 million as the cost it would take to bring the laundry buildings up to code.
The broker also says that the chance that the structures would be historically preserved has made the building impossible to sell, even at a steep discount, writing in one letter that "at this moment and certainly for the foreseeable future, we are finding that there is not any interested parties at any price."
The Historic Preservation Commission and the City Council both rejected the couple's appeals.
The aggregate, rough cost estimates and insurance bills the Milums produced didn't provide the kind of detail the city required to grant an exemption, says Ruter.
The Milums complain that the expense of getting itemized costs of what it would take to repair their buildings was a major expense by themselves.
"Certainly, I understand the Milums' reticence to hire someone to do the analysis that would be required to make that [economic hardship] argument. Not having that documentation left the hearing bodies without the basis for making that determination," Ruter tells Reason, saying this is "a situation of not providing in the documentation."
The Milums' appeals of their rejected demolition permits are now exhausted. The city council will hold a hearing on rezoning the property to include historic preservation protections in May.
The couple tells Reason they are considering a lawsuit to challenge any landmarking of their property. If the city wants to preserve the property so badly, they say, they could buy it.
"This isn't equitable. This is our property," says Marylin. "We keep saying [the city] can buy it from us, and they have no interest."
Arizona Lawmakers Pass Bipartisan Starter Homes Act. Now, Gov. Katie Hobbs Mulls a Veto.
This past Wednesday, the Arizona Senate voted H.B. 2570—otherwise known as the Arizona Starter Homes Act—which preempts a long list of local regulations on new single-family homes.
The bill would ban localities from requiring new housing to be covered by homeowners' associations (HOA), as well as any shared amenities that would require an HOA. Cities would also be unable to enforce purely aesthetic design features. Larger cities would be prohibited from requiring that new single-family subdivisions have minimum lot sizes larger than 1,500 square feet or setbacks of more than five feet.
All told, it's a pretty far-reaching YIMBY reform aimed at making new, single-family housing easier and cheaper to build. The bill's prime sponsor was the House Majority Leader Leo Biasiucci (R–Lake Havasu), but progressive Democrats championed them throughout the process.
"It provides the opportunity for folks to have more choices for the kinds of housing that meet their needs," says Kirin Goff of the Arizona Neighborhood Project, which drafted the bill.
The House and Senate votes passing the bill were both bipartisan, with the "yes" and "no" sides including Republicans and Democrats. It's an unusual coalition of votes in Arizona's otherwise polarized, Republican-controlled Legislature.
"We had very progressives like myself partnering with very strong conservatives, who saw this as a proper rights issue, whereas people like myself look at it as a basic equal opportunity issue," says Rep. Analise Ortiz (D–Glendale).
The primary opposition came from local governments whose regulatory powers are being preempted and the Arizona League of Cities and Towns, a taxpayer-funded association representing municipal governments in the Legislature.
Their opposition is now leaving the bill's fate in question as it goes to Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs, a Democrat.
Traditionally, state preemption laws have been a tool used by the state's dominant Republicans to override liberal regulations passed by Democratic-controlled cities. If Hobbs were to sign the bill, she would upset a traditional Arizona Democratic base of support.
Hobbs herself told The Center Square that she's undecided on whether she will sign the bill, saying that she would have preferred any housing bill have resulted from a compromise with local jurisdictions.
Yet the League of Cities and Towns has been dead-set against H.B. 2570 from day one. Ortiz tells Reason that the League refused to negotiate on the bill while it was working its way through the legislature and ignored lawmakers who proactively reached out about proposed amendments they might have.
"I hope the governor will stay true to her campaign promise to deliver on housing solutions by signing this bill," says Ortiz.
Is Biden Serious When He Says 'Build, Build, Build'?
On Monday, President Joe Biden spoke at the National League of Cities conference in Washington, D.C. The president's remarks were mostly a rehash of his State of the Union address last week.
State-level leagues of cities are typically stalwart opponents of any state legislation that puts limits on cities' abilities to restrict housing production however they please.
Biden deserves some credit then for striking a YIMBY note in the housing portion of his speech, when he said, "The bottom line is we have to build, build, build. That's how we bring housing costs down for good."
As far as rhetoric goes, the president is on point when he identifies a dearth of housing supply as the reason for the country's high housing costs and high rates of homelessness.
On actual policy, the administration's proposals leave a lot to be desired. At the League conference, Biden namechecked creating tax credits for homebuyers, cracking down on landlords' "price-fixing" through the use of third-party algorithms that recommend rent levels, and cutting "red tape on federal housing financing programs."
A factsheet released by the White House Monday also highlighted his administration's call to increase funding for a recently created grant program that is supposed to pay localities that liberalize their zoning laws.
The demand-side incentives Biden is proposing, like mortgage tax credits, could be counterproductive by increasing buyers' demand for supply-constrained housing. The odds are that the subsidy will just get eaten up by higher home costs.
I've argued before that the various attempts the White House has made to incentivize zoning reform from Washington are also poorly designed for that purpose. Funding increases won't solve that problem.
Massachusetts Attorney General Sues Boston Suburb for Floating State Upzoning Law
A couple of weeks ago, Rent Free covered the voters of Milton, Massachusetts, adjacent to Boston, voting to reject zoning changes that would have allowed multi-family housing near the town's train stations.
That upzoning is a requirement of the state's MBTA Communities Law, which mandates that municipalities across the state allow apartments near transit stops. Most cities have been quietly complying. But in Milton, anti-density activists opted for rebellion instead.
In the run-up of the vote, Massachusetts Attorney General Andrea Campbell warned Milton voters the town could face legal consequences if they approved the repeal of the zoning changes. They did, and now it is.
Campbell's lawsuit asks for an injunction requiring the town to pass the required zoning changes. If the town ignores that injunction, Campbell's lawsuit asks the courts to prevent Milton from enforcing any zoning restrictions that don't comply with the MBTA Communities Law.
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If the town ignores that injunction, Campbell's lawsuit asks the courts to prevent Milton from enforcing any zoning restrictions that don't comply with the MBTA Communities Law.
This doesn't make sense. If the city doesn't want the housing (commuter volume) that would be necessary for MBTA train service, then the MBTA should simply shut down the train service to the town.
The couple tells Reason they are considering a lawsuit to challenge any landmarking of their property. If the city wants to preserve the property so badly, they say, they could buy it.
"This isn't equitable. This is our property," says Marylin. "We keep saying [the city] can buy it from us, and they have no interest."
This is the sticking point--the PHPO is basically saying that the city should force the Milums to keep the building standing, but the owners have no way to bring it up to current code without bankrupting themselves. The city wants to preserve it, but doesn't want to put the work in to keep it viable.
What typically ends up happening in situations like this is that the owners can't afford to rehabilitate the property to historic preservation specs, so they let it rot, the city or state ends up taking over the property at a discount, and then ends up tearing it to the ground anyway because they don't want to spend the money, either.
It's easy for me to say that the Milums should simply tear the building down and tell the city to go fuck themselves, but the odds are that they're going to be strongarmed into giving the property over to the city anyway. Why leave those fucks with anything useful to promote?
As much as I enjoy history and historic structures, historic preservation commissions have really outlived their usefulness, and are typically staffed by middle-aged wine moms with nothing better to do with their time. And it doesn't help that laws like the Historic Preservation Act are completely outdated, especially now that buildings that were built in the post-WW2 era are now eligible for those protections.
Is this the best libertarian take you can think of?
How about they violate property rights? How about if some middle-aged wine moms want to preserve a property, they pony up the money and buy it?
"Outlived their usefulness," puke, what a sorry-ass way to look at it.
Is that weepy emoting the best you can do, you prissy little bitch?
There's nothing wrong with preserving buildings that have a legitimately historic character or an important place in the community's own history. Doing so is how a community connects to its past and maintains its unique civic character.
But the problem with these commissions is that they've gone from trying to keep these kinds of structures from being destroyed and new uses determined that are still viable, to painting anything that's "old" as being worthy of preservation, irrespective of whether it can even be a viable structure. And in this case, it clearly cannot.
Wringing your hands over a cherry-picked statement like that just demonstrates that you need to clean the sand out of your vagina.
There's nothing wrong with it if the owners choose to do so. There's a LOT wrong with it if the government forces the owners to do so at their own expense. The owners in this case wanted to demolish it in order to make it more sellable - so all the city has to do is buy it at a reasonable price and preserve it with taxpayer money. If the taxpayers don't like that, no doubt they will vote the city idiots out of office and replace them with officials who display a modicum of common sense.
Like I said, this is why in these disputes, the building is typically left to rot and ends up getting torn down, anyway. The Milums need to remind the city and the historic preservation commission of this fact, and let them know that it's coming down now, or it's coming down later, but ultimately it's coming down.
No, that's not what the Milums "need" to do. They need to tear it down without permission and appeal the punishment levied by the city. But if they're not heroes and they don't want to let a valuable piece of property deteriorate; or sell it at a lower price; or waste their own resources on appealing a clearly unconstitutional uncompensated government "taking;" then perhaps the Institute for Justice would be willing to take on the project.
No, that’s not what the Milums “need” to do. They need to tear it down without permission and appeal the punishment levied by the city.
It's a Great Idea!! With the best of intentions!! What could possibly go wrong?
It's a "no-win" situation all around. When the government throws its weight around using taxpayer money and unlimited resources, it costs private citizens no matter how it plays out. I was pointing out the heroic way for the Milums to respond - "Go to Hell!" - while, at the same time, realizing that it would be silly for them to take that approach. The growing lack of heroism in the body politic is why all of us are losing our Constitutional rights and our liberty at an alarming rate.
I agree that preserving some historic structures is worthwhile and desirable. But there is something wrong with forcing the property owners to bear the costs of historic preservation if they aren't interested. Historic preservation is a luxury. If someone wants to preserve it, they can buy it at a price agreeable to the owners. Otherwise, they should fuck off.
Hear, hear. "Historic Preservation" at owner's expense should be recognized as the Taking that it is, just like eminent domain.
The Milums just can't see the equitable future, with the building converted to cool loft apartments (all rent-controlled, of course) surrounded by mouth-watering food trucks.
And if the try to argue financial sensibility (or lack thereof) they are racist.
It burned to the ground. Such a shame. Must have been bad wiring.
The cynic in me believes the city is looking at the Historic Preservation Commission as useful idiots.
1. The owners want to sell to a developer for a nice price.
2. City uses HPC to block the sale and forces upgrades the owner can't possibly afford.
3. City eminent domains the property at rock bottom price, because the building is so far out of code.
4. City declares the building not worth restoring, and sells to developer.
The deal is done in less than a year.
That would not be surprising at all.
The City of Phoenix is just slimy enough to do something like that. Keep in mind, this is a city where there really isn't a lot of historic infrastructure to begin with, as it was mostly a shit-kicker city of ex-Confederates up until the Great Depression. There's a few buildings with real historical value, but they're scattered about without any real cohesion or connection, due to the massive post-WW2 growth that happened there.
Burn it to the ground then claim they lost it in a boating accident
Bwahahaha! I had not previously investigated this meme source and had to LOL ...
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/i-lost-all-my-guns-in-a-boating-accident/
Thanks, Rev!
A laundromat seems like a fire-prone building.
Arizona's transition from red to purple to blue is proceeding with alarming pace.
The only thing that really kept Arizona red was McCain's political machine that turned out voters for the GOP in other areas. Now that he's dead, the actual electorate's preferences are coming to the forefront.
I think we're going to see the same thing in Nevada, but in the opposite direction, with Harry Reid's machine no longer running the state.
The Republicans still have a four to five point party registration advantage, but it seems to be not enough to offset the massive turnout advantages in heavy Dem areas.
There's also the problem that McCain Republicans and Trump Republicans are incapable of getting along.
I am still curious about the decreasing Democratic solidarity among Arizona (and other) Latinos(x).
Keep in mind that Arizona was one of the test beds for the Dems’ “ballot harvesting” efforts, starting with Sinema. That happened right after McCain died, and Cindy decided to wash her hands of it at that point. She's effectively a Democrat now.
There’s also the problem that McCain Republicans and Trump Republicans are incapable of getting along.
That’s definitely a big part of it. The former took the latter’s vote for granted for a long time because they could, but Trump coming into the picture ended a lot of that reluctant cooperation by the latter, especially with how McCain absolutely delighted in tweaking the populist wing’s nose all the time.
I think a lot of McCain Republicans turned on Trump when Trump made fun of McCain being a POW.
The way Trump disrespects our military is a deal breaker for a lot of them.
Trumps R's are not gonna be able to build any organization at all. The AZ R party is now basically broke. MI is similar. Wouldn't surprise me that other swing states are similar. Which means that even if the 30,000 foot high Trump v Biden polls look positive, an organization can't nail that advantage down if they've got no organization/money to sweat the details of getting voters out. Worse for them - it's a good bet they won't even try to do that stuff since Trump will divert them into an election fraud rabbit hole that desires failure.
I don't like the country club R crowd - but they do have money and organizational skills
The reason they can't get along is the same reason you see the schism in DC itself - the 'mainstream' wing of the GOP politicians are neocon 'democract-lite' that only want the privileges that come with living in DC and none of the work.
Hence why every GOP 'compromise' is 'the Democrats got everything they want and no one go anything else'.
McCain was one of the leaders of the RINO contingent in DC.
The dems don't turn out they ballot harvest
McCain had nothing to do with it - McCain, the 'maverick' has always been a carpetbagging RINO. The only thing he cared about from the AZ GOP was campaign financing.
Maybe, but the fact is that he kept that sinecure going a long time, and Arizona remained red in no small part due to that political influence. Hell, the other Senator in AZ was practically a non-entity, politically speaking; I can't even think of who was in that spot before Flake without looking it up.
It’s alarming only if you think it matters whether it’s red, blue or purple. Since the only difference it could possibly make is which partisan team gets to bankrupt America and unravel the social fabric faster, it’s of no concern to me at all.
Phoenix's transition. Tucson is already done.
The rest of the state is still red.
But we don't matter - 3/4 of the state lives in the PMA.
Oh, Britches, you poor deluded soul.
Are you really so gullible that you can't see he means
And if you can't build with a pen and phone, they you can confiscate.
Old abandoned buildings have a habit of burning down.
That great philosopher Bob Dylan has a comment on that - - - - -
"Well, strike another match
Yeah, go start new, go start new
'Cause it's all over now, baby blue"
""outstanding" 20th-century brick commercial architecture, "Streamline Moderne" design, and, particularly, its vaulted lamella roofs as architectural features worth preserving."
Gosh! Who knew? And my sister couldn't even persuade the local Historic Preservation agency to allow her to landmark her actual historic home built around 1812 because it lacked any features of architectural interest (um ... it's a farmhouse?!) Perhaps the Milums should put the vaulted lamella roof in a museum somewhere, demolish the twentieth century brick commercial Streamline Moderne structure without permission and dare the idiots to charge them with something so the Courts can slap the city down as it so richly deserves.
Does This Laundry Look 'Historic' to You?
Not particularly, but the kerning on that sign is horrific.
It's historically bad.
Its the Milumt Ex Tile Services. They used to do tile;)
Maybe they are willing to mosaic your ex.
"cracking down on landlords' "price-fixing" through the use of third-party algorithms that recommend rent levels," Every Socialist's wet dream.
Will they seize the rights to this histoiric laundry too? Let's hope not!
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😉
Calgon Water Softener Ancient Chinese Secret 70s Commercial (HD)
https://youtu.be/djMjYgqFrrQ?si=PG6fp29aQVxbDRAo
Though Libertarians, Tank Man, and Friends will definitely want this laundry at the end seized and the captives liberated:
Looney Tunes: China Jones
https://youtu.be/dxeJfqJZtxM
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I’d also love to know if there are other reasons they call her “Th’ Dragon La-dy!”
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> It's anyone's guess if the governor will sign it.
Its not 'anyone's guess'. She's pretty clear - she won't sign it unless the legislature shows overwhelming support. And probably not even then.
See, she's not for individual liberty - except for abortion. Her signature legislative accomplishment is a bill 'protecting' 'black women's hair'. With special guest at the signing Rachel Dolezel - famous for pretending to be Black and then famous for getting fired from teaching children because she makes porn.
She opposes school choice.
Abortion Mouse only cares about abortion and growing state dependence. Which is why she's Reason's favorite Arizona governor, second only to Napolitano.
dafuq is an Ex Tile Service?
>>trials and tribulations of YIMBY reforms.
some can be solved with arson.
“to protect its wooden ceiling architecture”
How unfortunate that the century old “wooden ceiling architecture” was preserved with a highly flammable oil based preservative. Once the fire caught, it couldn’t be stopped and everything burned to ashes. Darn shame, who could have thunk it in a drought stricken place like Azirona. Hey, just sayin’ there’s more than one way to choke a chicken or if someone wants to cough up $10 million they can stroke a chicken instead but act fast kids because you know, that electrical fire isn’t likely to start itself or maybe that one overloaded circuit is just warm enough.
Wait, what? You’re saying I can’t just use a piece of copper pipe to replace a blown fuse. Why not? Where does it say that in the law? It was just a temporary fix until I could get the right part. I didn't think it would be an issue.
I hate when that happens.
One time I had to use a piece of copper wire to connect a couple of old pieces of corroded aluminum wire. Such a shame.
The Arizona laundry does look like an interesting structure, but for historical buildings of the modern era, Cambodia is the place. There are ancient buildings like Angkor Wat, but all the cities and towns have buildings from the French colonial era in fair to good condition. Sihanoukville on the coast has some very spooky ruins of a casino from the same period, Art Deco. You don't get a chance to see Art Deco ruins in the same degree of desuetude in other places.
Just demolish it.
It'll be razed well before all the obese union slobs in their mustard-stained wifebeaters and reflective vests show up. Then they'll stand around with their thumb up their ass for six months until they call someone from the County down to make Important Decisions™ for them.
And then when that dude shows up just say, "Me speaka no Engrish! Jore Bidens say come and come take bridling and live with so many fammly. He fly me on airplane!"
And get it on camera.
They'll immediately let you do whatever you want without question or comment.
“Just demolish it.”
Older buildings should be preserved. Especially in a place like Phoenix which isn’t well endowed with examples of historical architecture. They add richness and variety to an otherwise dreary urban environment. Your formula of erasing inconvenient history mixed with class hatred and nativist bigotry only further impoverishes and drearifies the city.
Get a grant to convert the laundry to a hostel for illegal aliens. Pick up the $500 per day per alien housed for as long as the money flows. Then don't be surprised when a fire breaks out that can be easily blamed on an illegal with a hot plate.
Older buildings should be preserved.
How many? All of them? Cool, let's expand the growth into undeveloped land. Burn down all the nature, exterminate any wildlife, and get building. Wait let me guess - that's not OK either because Mother Gaia weeps.
But hey, I'll bet you typed your post out on an old Apple II using a modem while your whale-oil lamps kept the room lit and warm, because old should never make way for the new. Because if there's one thing Marxists love, it's cultural/economic stagnation. Hence also your defense of do-nothing labor forces and importing dependents who, ironically, have zero respect whatsoever for "historical architecture" as they make zero effort to assimilate culturally to a point that might respect it. When they're not actively destroying it themselves.
"How many? All of them?"
Sure. Older buildings are aesthetically interesting and well constructed, having stood the test of time. They also tell us something of our history and should be proud of them.
" Burn down all the nature, exterminate any wildlife, and get building. "
I don't think that's a good idea. I appreciate nature and wildlife and see no advantage in eliminating it.
"Wait let me guess – that’s not OK either because Mother Gaia weeps."
I agree, it's not OK and I too weep for the loss and suffering of wild spaces and creatures.
"But hey, I’ll bet you typed your post out on an old Apple II using a modem while your whale-oil lamps kept the room lit and warm"
You would lose. I typed on a Raspberry Pi 4 during the day time. I'm in Mexico and it's warm though sometimes a wood fire is needed to keep warm, but not these days.
"Because if there’s one thing Marxists love, it’s cultural/economic stagnation."
I don't love change for the sake of change. We should take some pride in older things and respect their longevity. The older buildings are perfectly sound and pleasing to look at. I don't feel their existence puts me at any disadvantage.
"Hence also your defense of do-nothing labor forces and importing dependents who"
I have nothing against the working class or their families.
"have zero respect whatsoever for “historical architecture” as they make zero effort to assimilate culturally to a point that might respect it."
Not everyone has the taste to understand and appreciate beautiful things. It takes some education and some innate talent. As for assimilating culturally, I don't give a shit. People are free to speak the languages they want, wear the clothes they want, eat the food they want, play the music they want, etc. Those who want to dictate our words, clothes, food, music etc, to conform to their own preferences are often ignorant bigots like yourself and are best ignored. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but that's the way it is.
I don’t love change for the sake of change.
It's not change for the sake of change. It's change because something obsolete and without function is literally in the way of something useful and productive.
I don’t feel their existence puts me at any disadvantage.
It's not about your advantage. The question here is whether its existence puts Craig and Marylin Milum at a disadvantage.
Those who want to dictate our words, clothes, food, music etc, to conform to their own preferences are often ignorant bigots
So, what exactly did you mean by: we should take some pride in older things and respect their longevity. The older buildings are perfectly sound and pleasing to look at.
That sure sounds like "dictating to conform to your preferences," right ignorant bigot?
Leftists never cease to amaze me in how blind they are to their own projection and hypocrisy.
And their desire for stagnation.
"It’s change because something obsolete and without function is literally in the way of something useful and productive."
That doesn't persuade me. Chances are the new building won't produce anything useful to me. As I say, I'm happy with an attractive building of historical interest.
"It’s not about your advantage. The question here is whether its existence puts Craig and Marylin Milum at a disadvantage."
They own an attractive building of historical interest. Whatever happened to pride of ownership? They should be honored to own such a significant property, instead of feeling burdened by it. Of course the city must contribute to the upkeep, as it's something that benefits everyone and enriches the city's cultural assets.
"So, what exactly did you mean by...."
It's a matter of taste. Either you have it or don't. It's also a matter of treasuring the past and our heritage. The desire to preserve the past is not stagnation. And progress isn't a matter of gratuitously replacing the old with the new.
Chances are the new building won’t produce anything useful to me. As I say, I’m happy with an attractive building of historical interest.
It doesn't produce anything useful to you now. Nor do you have any rightful claim to it (least of all on a dictatorial, "I like, I want" basis).
They own an attractive building of historical interest. Whatever happened to pride of ownership? They should be honored to own such a significant property, instead of feeling burdened by it.
Who are you to decide that for them?
It’s a matter of taste.
And we - or in this case, the Milum's - conform to it, or not. Right, ignorant bigot?
The desire to preserve the past is not stagnation.
It is when it's without articulated purpose.
What make/model/year car do you drive, if I might ask - and is it the only car you've ever owned? (Assuming you own a car.)
If the Historic Preservation Commission needs an estimate of rehabilitation costs to decide whether it's worthwhile preserving a building, it should be responsible for obtaining that estimate.