Biden Says He'll Make the Wealthy Pay More To Fix Social Security. Here's Why That Won't Work.
Raising the payroll tax cap could generate up to $1 trillion over 10 years, but Social Security faces a $2.8 trillion deficit.

President Joe Biden did not dwell long on the question of how to solve the serious entitlement crisis facing America during Thursday's State of the Union address before pivoting to discuss obviously more serious problems like the size of snack food packages.
Still, one point he made is worthy of deeper analysis.
In trying to draw a contrast between his own plans and what he claimed Republicans are aiming to do, Biden claimed that "working people who built this country pay more into Social Security than millionaires and billionaires do. It's not fair."
Moments later, he promised to "protect and strengthen Social Security and make the wealthy pay their fair share."
Though he did not spell it all out in Thursday night's speech, those two comments seem to be pointed toward the same aspect of how Social Security is funded. Under current law, the payroll tax that funds Social Security is capped so that, for this year, only the first $168,600 in earnings are subject to it.
Raising that cap—or eliminating it—is frequently discussed as one possible solution to Social Security's approaching insolvency. That seems to be the idea that Biden was gesturing towards in his speech.
On its face, this isn't necessarily the worst idea. The cap is completely arbitrary, so there's no principled reason why all earnings shouldn't be treated equally. And there's no doubt that raising the cap would generate more revenue to help keep Social Security afloat. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that applying payroll taxes to higher income levels could raise $1 trillion in revenues over a 10-year period (though the amount of revenue would depend on how the cap was altered, and whether benefits increased as well).
But there are also serious trade-offs. For one, this would be a tax increase on working Americans to fund a transfer of wealth to retirees. That's not great. A significant portion of that tax increase would fall on people making less than $400,000 annually—remember, the cap is currently set around $168,000—a cohort that Biden promised again in Thursday's speech would not face tax increases.
Perhaps most importantly, raising or eliminating the payroll tax gap doesn't come close to solving the long-term Social Security shortfall. It might generate $1 trillion over 10 years, which is a lot of money, but it doesn't come close to the $2.8 trillion deficit the program is expected to run over the next decade.
"Eliminating the tax cap would either raise benefits as well (reducing the proposals' savings), or—if the accompanying benefits are canceled—turn Social Security into a true welfare program by delinking contributions and benefits," writes Brian Riedl, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and former Senate budget staffer, in a recent piece debunking some common myths about Social Security reform. "Moreover, eliminating the cap would not bring permanent solvency or avert the need for benefit changes….The system would return to deficits by 2029. Lawmakers would still need to reform benefit levels and the eligibility age."
Ah, but Biden also used Thursday's speech to kneecap any discussion of making those other changes.
"If anyone here tries to cut Social Security or Medicare or raise the retirement age," he vowed, "I will stop them."
It's nice to see the president at least acknowledge one of the difficult choices that lie ahead for policymakers grappling with the coming insolvency of America's entitlement programs. On that count, he's at least marginally ahead of his prospective electoral opponent, former President Donald Trump, who maintains that Social Security needs no reforms.
Still, Biden's a long, long way from anything that sounds like a workable proposal—and the lack of details in Thursday's speech suggests the White House would prefer to stay away from this topic during an election year.
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Moments later, he promised to "protect and strengthen Social Security and make the wealthy pay their fair share."
Oh, OK. Bye.
You need me more than I need you, Joe. 😀
I can remember when the first president Bush said your Social Security payments should be put into an annuity
The Democrats went insane that he was going to turn Social Security over to Wall Street.
If that had been done in the past, there would be no Social Security crisis now
Is no one going to suggest just making it a private annuity program again?
If you put it over to a private annuity than the Dems can't spend it. They also can't use it to inspire fear to get votes.
So no, I don't see that happening.
Well, you gotta raise the retirement age to 75 or 80 as well.
Remember, when SS was built, most people didn't actually make it that far.
Adjustments are needed.
Stop sending the biggest checks to the wealthiest retirees, for a start.
If it's a "safety net", then reserve its resources for those who actually need it, and dispense with the idea that people "get back what they put in", which has been a lie since day 1 of the program.
It may be a lie, but that’s how they sold it.
"If it's a 'safety net'..." It isn't. It's a retirement plan for everyone.
Trump will win in a landslide.
Yeah just like 2022 will be a "Red Wave."
To be fair the Republicans sabotaged themselves by saying they wouldn't be doing anything the Republican voters wanted them to do. So Republican voters didn't bother.
The anger is there. They just need someone to vote for.
The biggest correlation to states that didn't elect Republicans in 2022 were if the state kept the voting rules implemented in 2020. Nothing more. Set up a system of fraud and fraud will continue. Especially in an environment demanding nobody ever look into the fraud under threat of state actions.
They still won.
Not as big as they hoped, but in reality, there weren't a lot of competitive seats up in that cycle.
"Biden Says He'll Make the Wealthy Pay More"
LOL
#OBLsFirstLaw
"The cap is completely arbitrary, so there's no principled reason why all earnings shouldn't be treated equally."
Is Reason still a libertarian site?
There was a recent discussion about Libertarians being the true Liberals, meaning in the classical sense. That was heartening, but what I find on Reason is more often Liberal in the modern, big government sense.
The system shouldn't exist, but since it does and the money was stolen by law its distribution needs to be equal under the law.
its distribution needs to be equal under the law
Are you saying everyone's Social Security check should be the same? If someone makes twice as much as me and pays twice as much into the system, his or her SS check should be the same as mine? Someone who contributed for five years should get the same as someone who capped out for forty-five years?
FICA is supposed to be contributions. You put in for retirees now and get it back later. The cap is there because anything beyond that, hypothetically, you won't get back. Changing it into a tax is an alteration of the covenant originally established when the law went into effect.
No, its supposed to be insurance (its official name is called Old Age Survivor and Disability Insurance). You pay for it while you work, and if you survive to old age you get a payout based on how much you earned. The cap was there I think to just keep them collecting too much surplus.
"The cap was there I think to just keep them collecting too much surplus."
Nah, Social Security works much like an annuity plus disability insurance. We get back in retirement based on what we have paid in. Those who pay in more, get more back in retirement, but there is a maximum payment. There is a cap on the SS income tax because at some point we will have paid the full premium for the max payout.
If the cap is removed and no higher payout is given, then the government is just forcing people to contribute more than they could possibly get out. It is against the libertarian principle to force people into an annuity, it is much worse to force them into an annuity that is sure to have negative rate of return.
meant "maximum monthly payout" at end of first paragraph.
On its face, this isn't necessarily the worst idea. The cap is completely arbitrary, so there's no principled reason why all earnings shouldn't be treated equally.
Boehm, youre supposed to be the economics writer. The cap is not arbitrary. It is what sets the cap in taxes as well as the cap sent out to earners. Removing the cap will adjust pay in as well as pay out. This is what was subscribed to courts determining the program was legal. If it were to become a straight wealth transfer it would go back to the courts.
How can this author be so stupid?
It wasn’t spelled out, but Im assuming Biden meant he would push for a changes so salaries over 168k would only pay in, not collect out.
Which would start up lawsuits as it being a wealth transfer. Not how it was adjudicated initially for legality.
LMAO, that ship has already sailed, er been litigated: https://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html
FICA is just a tax, the benefits are just a welfare handout; either can be adjusted if congress choses to.
No, it is the worst idea. And what does it have to do with "making the wealthy pay" ? If they wanted to do that they would hit capital gains and such.
It's a good idea. Sticking your head in the sand and doing nothing is the worst idea. Time to recognize that it is (or should be) a hybrid plan that needs something to provide stability/solvency. I have maxed out on SS deductions for the last 20 years and I can tell you that it results in a nice increase in my paycheck when I reach the limit. An increase that I need a lot less than those who never reach the cap. Heck, my former boss met the cap by the end of January. I'm not for increasing taxes except in this one situation where it does result in the poor paying a higher percentage of their salary into SS than the wealthy do. We should also raise the age of full benefits for everyone under 40 by 1 year every 3 years to account for increases in life expectancy. Again, doing nothing is the worst idea. And hitting capital gains more than they are already is a surefire way to stagnate growth.
STEAL all the 'wealth' till everyone is 'poor'????
Sounds like the master-minded plan of a criminal alright.
I can't believe humanity can get so stupid.
Strategically and reluctantly, eh?
Seems the low-hanging fruit would be to rein in the SS disability fund, which takes money from SS and has expanded way beyond what it was originally intended. You even have plenty of people on other types of disability, like military disability, double dipping and collecting SS disability also.
And just like SS disability, military disability is rife with fraud. Sure there are plenty of people who are truly unable to support themselves due to severe disability. As a libertarian, I'd argue that is the role for charity and voluntary contributions. But even if we were to agree, for the sake of argument, that it's the government and taxpayers' duty to support these individuals, you can't also give disability to people who aren't really disabled and could earn a living themselves.
When I was in the army, I saw quite a few cases of BS disability claims to get med-boarded and a percentage of their salary for life.
I was career Army, can confirm that happened a lot.
It won’t help anything, but it seems that raising the retirement age for people not even born yet should be something that can be done without goring anyone’s ox. E.g., “Children born in and after 2025 have a SS benefit age of 72”. But it’s a symbolic first step toward actually changing the system.
The cliff currently occurs for those around the age of 40.
Please read up on how an annuity works. Simply raising the retirement age might help the system, but it will screw those paying in if the monthly payment is the same but is received over shorter retirement period.
Number 1, SS is nothing at all like an annuity in any way shape or form.
Number 2, "screwing" people who are not even born yet is kind of the point. The system is already broken because benefits age was not indexed to life expectancy over the years and changing it for people who have already been paying in is political suicide. Changing the rules for hypothetical future people based on a more properly indexed benefits age *might* be doable.
"Number 1, SS is nothing at all like an annuity in any way shape or form."
1) People pay into the system during working years and in retirement get back monthly payments based on how much they paid in and their age of retirement. If someone retires early, then they have more years of life expectancy in retirement and so their monthly payments are reduced accordingly.
2) As before, it is not Libertarian to purposely screw people over, even if they are not yet born. Forcing people to retire later without increasing their monthly payment to reflect the shorter expected life span in retirement is simply a way to reduce their total benefit. They will pay in more during their working years but get back far less in total.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/annuity.asp
"Annuities are financial products that offer a guaranteed income stream, usually for retirees.
The accumulation phase is the first stage of an annuity, whereby investors fund the product with either a lump sum or periodic payments.
The annuitant begins receiving payments after the annuitization period for a fixed period or for the rest of their life."
As in one of my earlier posts Social Security is basically an annuity with disability insurance. The retirement benefit includes survivor benefits for spouses. When first launched it was a great deal for the earliest beneficiaries who got back (as a group) far more than they paid in. So early on it was a just a cash giveaway which made it popular. In more recent years the rate for return for most cohorts (defined as those people born during a certain calendar year) is still positive, but not so much you go up in income. Once we get 2034, it will not be possible to hide that the program is not a good deal for most people.
Aside from screwing people over in the long run, SS is wrong in terms of Libertarian principles since the government ought not be both the umpire and a player. With annuities offered by corporations, the government is the umpire to make sure legalities are followed. But when the gov is both the umpire and a player, they get to change the rules as they go.
Here's a couple of ideas.
1. No millionaire or billionaire should be able to receive a SS check.
2. No sitting member of Congress, the Senate, or a SCOTUS justice should get a federal paycheck if they make over $1 million.
Oh, wait.
That makes sense.
So we'll never see those ideas becoming laws.
What was I thinking?
Take my 12.4% and put in my IRA. Problem solved.
Social Security is, has, and always will be a Ponzi scheme. Economic moron that he was, FDR knew how to sell a scam.
That is the truth. But since we are stuck with it, best to educate the voters so that even worse schemes are not hatched