Do U.S. Public Schools Really Need 77,000 More Counselors?
Schools were already staffed at record levels even before COVID-19, when enrollment fell by nearly 1.3 million students.

Public schools have a mental health crisis and only thousands of new support staff can save them. That's the narrative being pushed nationwide at a time when enrollment has crashed by nearly 1.3 million students and $190 billion in federal K-12 COVID-19 relief aid is set to expire later this year.
"It would take 77,000 more school counselors, 63,000 more school psychologists and probably tens of thousands of school social workers to reach levels recommended by professional groups before the pandemic hit," reports The Washington Post.
Now legislators in states such as Minnesota, New York, and Virginia are introducing bills aimed at getting schools closer to meeting the 250-to-1 student-to-counselor ratio recommended by the American School Counselor Association (ASCA). "We want our children to live in a state where they know they'll be able to access the mental health services they need," says Minnesota State Rep. Kaela Berg (D–Burnsville). According to ASCA, school counselor duties range from helping students manage emotions to planning for postsecondary options, but they don't help with long-term psychological disorders.
Public schools were slow to open during the pandemic and students' mental health deteriorated as a result. But even before COVID-19, schools were staffed at record levels, and policymakers have good reason to be skeptical of ASCA's guidance.
Between 2002 and 2020, public school staff grew by 13.2 percent nationwide while student enrollment increased by just 6.6%, according to a new report published by Reason Foundation. In many states—including New Hampshire, Illinois, and New York—public schools maintained or increased staffing levels despite large enrollment losses. For example, Connecticut lost 8.2 percent of its students but public school staff shot up by 14.1 percent.
But the bulk of new hires weren't teachers, which saw a 6.6-percent increase nationwide. Instead, non-teachers fueled the growth, increasing by 20 percent. For every five new students, about one non-teacher was added to public school payrolls. While a rise in central-office bureaucrats contributed to this trend, school-level personnel such as guidance counselors (up 19.5 percent), instructional aides (up 30.9 percent), and student support staff such as health and social services personnel (up 113.5 percent) were a significant driver.
One reason is that groups such as ASCA, National Association of School Psychologists (NASP), and National Association of Social Workers (NASW) all recommend staffing ratios that are used to sound alarm bells to state legislators about public school resources. While it's unclear how NASP (500-to-1) and NASW (250-to-1 or 50-to-1 for high-need schools) derived their ratios, ASCA's figure (250-to-1) doesn't hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny.
According to ASCA, it stems from 1955 when researcher Kenneth B. Hoyt "concluded that school counselors should have no more than 400 pupils in their caseload." They adjusted Hoyt's ratio down to its current level in 1965 "as the role of the school counselor became clarified further."
But this figure was called out by a Harvard graduate student for having no empirical basis at all, despite being cited "in almost every piece that you read about school counselors." It turns out, Hoyt's original number was just a back-of-the-envelope calculation he did in a short column, which walks through some basic assumptions about what counseling might look like. At the end, Hoyt even warned against using his example to set policy:
This article has presented one person's point of view regarding the counseling load of the high school counselor. It is not represented as the answer for any particular school system nor as a generalized answer for any combination of the school system. We would not expect to find total agreement on the part of either experts or non-experts on all of the assumptions involved in the point of view presented here.
Notice that Hoyt's article was aimed at high school counselors specifically. This is important because ASCA's ratio lumps together school counselors at all levels (elementary, middle school, and high school). The national average reported by ASCA (385-to-1) exceeds its recommendation, but only because it's inflated by schools serving lower grade levels. When high schools are isolated, the national average falls to an estimated 232-to-1 ratio—well below ASCA's recommendation.
The real problem isn't that there aren't enough school counselors, but that many states already have laws on the books advancing ASCA's flawed recommendation. Then there's the question of mission creep and whether public schools should be delivering mental health services at all. Regardless, public schools have more staff than ever and with enrollment projected to continue declining for years to come, the last thing they need is 77,000 more counselors. Using a baseless metric to further this aim only undermines ASCA's credibility and those pushing their narrative.
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They do in order to achieve a more productive synergy between diversity officers and the proper implementation of the curriculum’s goals. There are currently old and out of touch teachers and counselors who think equity should mean equality and who are using SEL lessons to teach self-reliance and responsibility. This robs students of the full transformative potential of the curriculum. Thus an injection of fresh blood, steeped in the latest cutting edge schools of pedagogy is required for the sake of the children’s education.
Also, more gubmint jobs.
It is suspicious when an organization of public employees claims that there need to be a lot more of their members hired at taxpayer expense especially when the number of customers is declining.
it's unclear how NASP (500-to-1) and NASW (250-to-1 or 50-to-1 for high-need schools) derived their ratios
Oh, just reflect a bit on the precision and it'll become clear.
Do U.S. Public Schools Really Need 77,000 More Counselors?
The purpose of school counselors is to turn kids into isolated, angry, drug-dependent, impoverished, desperate individuals with no job skills, no economic skills, no religion, and no personal responsibility. This is done by turning them against their parents, diagnosing them with various “mental illnesses”, and/or convincing them that they are transgender.
Kids damaged in this way will turn out to be reliable supporters of progressivism and socialism, since they have nothing else to look forward to in their miserable lives and no social support network.
So, in short, if you are a Democrat, then yes, it is absolutely necessary to hire 77000 new school counselors.
Secondary purpose is to provide liberal activists funding with lots of free time so they can protest.
The most useless person in America is a public school guidence counselor.
Wait, maybe not. Though Reason may have hired a bunch of out of work guidence counselors to make this decision:
They were somewhat useful for helping with college applications.
I managed to apply and get accepted to college without the help of one. They're entirely redundant.
A number of my peers were "counseled" into six figure debt for an arts degree that they're still paying off.
You mean 77,000 more 'professionals' vomiting things like, they, ze, xe, or hir to the children of unsuspecting parents.
Those kids won't change their genders without adult assistance. Duh.
Well, Texas thinks counsellors are so important, they're willing to let schools use safety funds to pay for them...provided those counsellors are chaplains.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/24/texas-legislature-chaplains-schools/
From your article:
Earlier this month, House Democrats also offered amendments to bar proselytizing or attempts to convert students from one religion to another; to require chaplains to receive consent from the parents of school children;
So it's okay to transition kids without parental consent, but not talk about god without parental consent?
Fucking hypocrisy.
It may be hypocrisy but in this specific instance they are absolutely correct, and you should hence condemn the GOP for hypocrisy in the other direction...but you won't.
Because talking about god = puberty blockers and body mutilation.
WTF is wrong with you?
You can have two distinct cases nonetheless connected by a common principle - here, parental consent.
WTF is wrong with you that you were unable to grasp this obvious point?
Bob , you have a filthy mouth, and speech comes from the mind, so a filthy mind. If you want puberty blockers and bodily mutllation , be a man and say so. Drop the cutesy pseudo-religious posturing.
Sooooo....DO you live in Texas, Do you have schoolkids, do you have a better idea?
Do you go to Rolling Stones concerts holding a sign that says "Barbara Streisand is better than the Stones"
Using chaplains as school counselors does reduce (but not eliminate!) the chances that the counselors are trying to persuade kids that they are trans-gender, or teaching Communism even more directly than most teachers do in the classroom. OTOH, it may increase the chances of kids being raped in school.
Just as with student loan forgiveness, this isn't really about the students. Universities are useful agents of social change and political indoctrination and they need support, especially in the most important majors like sociology, psychology, and political science. Those majors cost students the same as chemistry, engineering, or nursing but have little chance for employment after graduation, so ways must be found to fund the departments and perhaps to get some of the graduates jobs in government.
No, but the teachers union wants 77000 more dues paying members
Even when you are sarcastic you spit in the wind.
“In short, some of the least qualified students, taught by the least qualified professors in the lowest quality courses supply most American public school teachers.”
― Thomas Sowell, Inside American Education
Public schools need to eliminate a whole lot of the non-instructor positions. 50% or more.
As more school councilors are hired, depression anxiety rise and test scores lower. They should be investigated for fraud
It takes a multitude of babblers to convince kids to stick with legal gin and cigarettes, and just say NO to Pepperland drugs unable to muster bribes for legalization and cartel protection. When I was a teen, teevees belched beer and cigarette ads almost as often as reefer madness horror stories.
Yeah, I’m sure you were an avid viewer of the DuMont network.
When the hell did "mental health" become part of the mandate of an education system? Health (both physical and mental) is the responsibility of healthcare providers. And, okay, the US healthcare system isn't in the greatest shape - but replacing one broken bureaucracy with another (or worse, layering them on top of each other) is just insane.
That is the question. Schools seem to want to become social services centers first and educational institutions second (or maybe babysitting is second and education third).
The real question becomes, does the US really need public schools?
The correct answer is no.
Let parents pay for their own kids education.
After all, it's their responsibility not other taxpayers, and don't give me this "it takes a village" bullshit either.
Alternatively, the question is whether public education is a net economic benefit. If the cost of an average individual student's education is less than the difference between the productivity or tax revenues from an unskilled or illiterate worker, and a skilled or literate one, then pragmatically it makes sense. And the pragmatic considerations are what I care about.
Or it may be than an uneducated workforce imposes later costs in the justice system for example. Or perhaps an uneducated unskilled workforce provides such cheap labour that the US becomes a cheap-labour powerhouse, a late 21stC China, if you like, so no public schools turn out to work very effectively - for the peiple who own the industries...
Basically, if you are going to make a case for the abolition of public schools, use real-world evidence, not principles.
Even if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the public education system – taking ALL of the costs and social outcomes into account – produced a net economic benefit, we should still abolish the tax-funded public education system since “it’s the economy” is not a moral imperative and liberty IS a moral imperative. It's not just about arguing over public policy; it's about fighting for liberty.
Now prove that it’s a moral imperative.
And do you not see that a well-educated cohort are capable of exercising their rights to liberty far better than an uneducated one? How much liberty do you really have when you're in straitened economic circumstances?
And do you want a populace capable of producing plenty of sophisticated entrpreneurs, or one which is fit only to work for others in an assembly line?
Liberty my ass. We have freedom to do the right and good thing, anything else is not free will it is random will
The narrative goes: all of us and society at large benefit from a highly educated citizenry. This is a fine-sounding slogan and, of course, it COULD be true if the public education system actually produced a highly educated citizenry. But I have seen almost no evidence that it is true so far; and lots of evidence that a privately delivered education non-system would produce better outcomes.
Now there's a bad idea...Parents DO currently pay for their kids and other kids. If you have no kids, you should keep your mouth shut.
You are another Hillary though you think not. All that binary bullshit: It's either sole parents' responsibility OR it's "it takes a village" Pure bullshit. Society past and futjure depends on socieity now. Are you too selfish to care about anyone but your childree self !!!!
Ban publicly funded education.
"the 250-to-1 student-to-counselor ratio recommended by the American School Counselor Association (ASCA)."
So you have a professional association saying "you should use more of our members services"
I think their recommendation should be taken with a grain (or perhaps a metric ton) of salt.
I would have said, "dismissed with extreme prejudice and the contempt which it so richly deserves!" But ... okay ... "salt."
"whether public schools should be delivering mental health services at all."
You could have saved a dozen column inches by leading off with this question and answering it, emphatically, "NO!!"
Part of the problem with kids these days is too much "counseling". They are constantly being asked to talk about their feelings instead of just living. Abigail Shrier's new book covers this topic well. As a spouse of a teacher, the touchy feely, make everyone happy, approach is why we have teachers getting beat by students.
NO, you have teachers getting beat by students because there is no God, no right and wrong, no ruling force.
Stop calling them counselors.
In DEI America, they're groomers.
When you know the school system is going to crash,and you are in collusion with the politicians to say 'it is getting better'-- you grab everything you can before the fire consumes the house and the firemen arrive. Makes sense.
It's crucial to approach the topic with a balanced perspective. Firstly, let's acknowledge that the mental health and well-being of students are paramount for their overall academic success and personal development. With rising concerns about issues such as anxiety, depression, and bullying, having adequate support systems in place within schools is undeniably important. However, the debate isn't merely about the quantity of counselors but also the quality and scope of their roles. Effective counseling programs encompass a range of services, including academic guidance, career planning, social-emotional support, and crisis intervention. It's not just about having a certain number of counselors but ensuring they have the necessary resources, training, and support to address the diverse needs of students. Moreover, while increasing the number of counselors can be beneficial, it's essential to recognize the broader systemic issues impacting students' well-being. Factors such as socioeconomic disparities, access to healthcare, school funding, and the prevalence of trauma within communities all intersect with the effectiveness of counseling services. Therefore, a comprehensive approach to supporting students must encompass not only increased counseling staff, but also addressing these underlying challenges. Additionally, exploring alternative avenues for providing support to students is worth considering. For instance, integrating mental health education into the curriculum, fostering supportive school environments, and leveraging technology for remote counseling services can all complement traditional counseling practices. On a related note, opportunities for individuals interested in pursuing careers in counseling, psychology, or related fields are expanding. Institutions like New Lane University offer accessible avenues for individuals to obtain qualifications, such as a philosophy degree online, at an affordable cost. Such initiatives can contribute to a more diverse and skilled workforce within the counseling profession, potentially alleviating some shortages experienced in certain regions or school districts. In conclusion, whether U.S. public schools require 77,000 more counselors is multifaceted. While increasing the number of counselors can be beneficial, it's crucial to consider the broader context of student well-being and the systemic factors influencing their experiences. By adopting a comprehensive approach that addresses both the quantity and quality of counseling services, alongside exploring alternative support mechanisms and educational opportunities, we can strive towards creating healthier and more supportive learning environments for all students.
Public schools do have a mental health crisis, but it's been going on for several decades, and it's not the students that are affected. It's in the staff, the "education" programs in colleges that trained the staff, and the politicians that support these incompetent institutions.