Do Americans Really Only Want Sprawl?
Plus: the House votes for more affordable housing subsidies, Portland tries to fix its "inclusionary housing" program, and is 2024 the year of the granny flat?

Happy Tuesday and welcome to another edition of Rent Free. This week's stories include:
- The House of Representatives' surprisingly bipartisan $78 billion tax bill expands and tweaks the federal government's program for funding new affordable housing.
- Portland reworks its controversial "inclusionary housing" policy that's been blamed for suppressing housing construction.
- Arizona tries to legalize starter homes, Minnesota takes on parking minimums, and more…
But first, this week's lead item is a brief rebuttal to the idea that what all Americans really want is to sprawl, baby sprawl.
Do Americans Just Want To Sprawl?
Urban geographer Joel Kotkin has stirred up a lot of strong feelings over the weekend with a recent essay in National Review called "Let America Sprawl"—which was published in January but started making the rounds on YIMBY Twitter over the weekend.
Kotkin argues Americans' "deep-seated preferences" are for single-family homes in the suburbs where everything is a convenient drive away. The persistent population and job sprawl of the last century is evidence enough of this preference.
Messing with America's true suburban desires, writes Kotkin, are center city-loving planners and pundits who are eagerly forcing density on existing communities and "hindering, and even prohibiting, development on the periphery…where costs tend to be lower."
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This war on suburbia is ultimately a war on America's future, says Kotkin.
"Policies to force people back into denser urban areas will ensure a decline of population and ever greater dependence on undocumented workers," he writes. The sprawling suburbia of New America meanwhile "suggests an alternative shaped by popular desires for a better life."
Though Kotkin's article is light on the specific policies threatening suburbia, he's not wrong when he says there are regulatory barriers to exurban growth: literal urban growth boundaries, environmental regulations, agricultural zoning, rural multi-acre minimum lot sizes, the federal government's hoarding of western land, etc.
Absent these policies, there likely would be more, and more affordable, single-family housing.
What's so odd about Kotkin's essay is that he treats these regulations as binding, indefensible restrictions on Americans' true preferences, while criticizing efforts to liberalize equally restrictive zoning regulations as forced densification.
The contradictions of this position are endless.
If ending single-family-only zoning forces density on the suburbs, does repealing urban growth boundaries also force the suburbs on rural communities? If Americans' preference for single-family suburban housing is indeed so "deep-seated," why is it necessary to ban every other type of housing on most residential land?
Much of the evidence Kotkin cites for Americans' suburban preferences could also be easily interpreted as evidence of regulation forcing Americans out of the urban areas they really want to live in.
Kotkin writes that "those running California managed to create a situation where housing prices have soared, even as the state has lost population." He also says that people are moving to the exurbs where "costs tend to be lower."
People moving away from high-priced housing in dense urban areas is more obviously interpreted as evidence of a regulation-induced shortage, not a collapse in demand for urban living. Urban Californian home prices couldn't stay so high if no one wanted to live there. When restrictions on density are repealed, builders respond by building a lot of housing.
If you're interested in a deeper dive, Reason published a debate on this very topic between myself and demographer Wendall Cox last year.
At the end of the day, I think this whole argument is a bit of a waste of breath for anyone who doesn't want to force people to live a certain way.
We don't need policy wonks to figure out whether Americans really want large-lot, single-family homes in the suburbs, a high-rise apartment downtown, or anything in between.
Free markets do a pretty good job of sorting out people's preferences without lots of white papers and magazine columns. It's why we don't need endless articles at National Review and Reason about whether Americans prefer Coke or Pepsi.
Of course, we haven't left markets (i.e. individuals) to figure housing out on their own. Instead, we've applied layer after layer of red tape on both urban infill development and suburban single-family home construction. (The messy reality is we also subsidize both types of housing.)
With that red tape removed, people could more easily decide for themselves what kind of housing they want and builders could construct whatever buyers and renters are actually willing to pay for. Odds are they will end up choosing more of both.
House Tax Bill Expands Low-Income Housing Subsidies
Child tax credits and small business tax relief are dominating most of the discussion of the $78 billion tax bill passed by a solid bipartisan majority in the House of Representatives last week.
Less covered is the bill's expansion of the federal government's primary program for subsidizing affordable housing construction: the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) (pronounced Lie-Tech) program.
Through LIHTC, the federal government gives states tax credits that they then gift to developers of low-income housing. Developers will sell these credits in exchange for cash or equity in their housing projects.
There are two types of LIHTC credits: a generous credit that mostly subsidizes new construction and a less generous credit typically used to subsidize rehabilitation projects.
The House's tax bill increases every state's allocation of the more generous new construction credits by 12.5 percent. The bill also reduces how many tax-exempt bond projects need to be used to qualify for the less generous credits, expanding the program's ability to subsidize rehabilitation projects.
LIHTC builders are happy about the changes, which restore some cuts made to the program in 2021.
"This would be the most meaningful expansion of investment in affordable housing in decades," says Emily Cadik of the Affordable Housing Tax Credit Coalition. "We have these shovel-ready developments that, if states were given a little more allocation or didn't have to put so many bonds into one project, would be able to move forward right away."
Critics of LIHTC have long argued that the program's complicated financing mechanisms and voluminous regulations are a wasteful and indirect means of subsidizing affordable housing.
"Research indicates that the benefits of the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) program primarily flow to developers, rather than low-income tenants," said the Cato Institute's Vanessa Brown Calder to the Senate Banking Committee last year. Brown Calder recommended eliminating LIHTC in favor of direct subsidies to the lowest low-income renters.
Portland Reforms Supply-Killing Inclusionary Housing Policy
Portland's "inclusionary housing" policy has been a poster child for all sorts of unintended consequences. Housing advocates are hoping recent changes to the program will transform it into a model affordability policy for other cities to follow.
In 2016, Portland created the "inclusionary housing" policy requiring builders of projects with 20 or more units to make at least 10 percent of those units affordable to lower-income renters.
Forcing developers to give away some of their units at money-losing discounts will obviously make them less likely to build. That's been the record of "inclusionary zoning" policies the country over.
To try and avoid a predictable collapse in new construction, Portland's inclusionary housing program paired its affordability mandates with property tax abatements meant to make developers whole.
But "late in the process in 2016, it came to light that there wasn't going to be enough tax abatement to offset everybody's costs," says Michael Andersen of the Sightline Institute.
To split the baby, the city offered tax abatements on all units built by developers only in the high-cost central city. But outside the central city developers could only claim tax abatements on the affordable units they were being forced to build. That partial tax offset proved fatal for a lot of projects.
"It had a massive effect. It was implemented when we were top of market, so land prices were high, construction [costs] were escalating, projects were already starting to get tight on underwriting," says Paul Del Vecchio, president of Ethos Development. "It was the final straw."
Some developers rushed through applications before the program went into effect. A few cut the size of their project to under 20 units. Inevitably, a lot of projects also just ended up not happening, as reflected in tumbling permitting numbers within Portland and increasing construction outside of it.
A program intended to improve housing affordability ended up cutting rates of new housing production.
To right this wrong, the city convened a panel and hired a consultant to study fixes to the program. On Wednesday, they passed recommended updates to the program that allow projects citywide to claim tax abatements on all the units their units.
Andersen says fully subsidizing developers to include some affordable units in market-rate projects is cheaper for taxpayers than the city issuing bonds to finance all-affordable projects.
"This is a pretty significant step forward in my opinion toward feasibility for projects outside the central city that might not have been feasible previously," says Sarah Zahn, a developer with SEC Properties, who was on the city's inclusionary housing panel.
Other developers are less bullish.
Del Vecchio, who was also on the city's advisory panel, says that expanded tax credits will help more projects pencil. But some capital will still flow to other jurisdictions that don't have affordability mandates. Inclusionary housing still ends up placing a lot of low-income people in need of particular services in market-rate buildings where they're not provided, he adds.
"Low-income people aren't getting the services they need and the city isn't getting the equity it needs," he says.
Is 2024 the Year of the Granny Flat?
Last week, the California Court of Appeals ruled against Malibu, California's restrictions on accessory dwelling units (ADU) in a case litigated by the Pacific Legal Foundation.
It's a mopping-up action in California's successful war on local granny flat bans. State reforms since 2016 have turned annual ADU construction from a rounding error into a quarter of the state's new housing.
Now, the Golden State is spreading its ADU revolution nationwide. This year, bills have been introduced in Nebraska, Virginia, Massachusetts, Kentucky, and Colorado that would allow ADUs on all residential land and preempt some ADU regulations.
Most are pretty good, but Nebraska's might be the best of the bunch. It legalizes ADUs of 1,000 square feet (or 75 percent of the primary if that's less) while prohibiting localities from imposing parking mandates, design requirements, impact fees, owner-occupancy requirements, and setback, height, and lot size regulations that are tougher than what's applied to single-family homes. If a municipality doesn't pass a law incorporating these standards into its zoning code by 2025, state standards automatically kick in.
This is a pretty airtight preemption that bans all the typical local regulations that can thwart ADUs. It's also a standalone, single-subject bill. That reflects the lesson from last year's legislative sessions that housing bills do best when they're kept simple.
Massachusetts' and Kentucky's ADU bills are part of larger housing logroll bills that have a pretty poor track record. Everyone finds something to not like about them.
Colorado's bill still allows localities to charge ADU builders impact fees, which can be ruinous for new construction. It also comes with subsidies for ADU construction. California's experience shows you can get a lot of new ADUs at zero expense to the taxpayer.
Virginia had a pretty decent ADU bill introduced. It appears that good, initial version took a beating in its first committee hearing, and has been amended to still allow local governments to require ADUs to have off-street parking, and be owner-occupied.
Quick Links
- The Long Island community of Oyster Bay, New York, is preemptively downzoning its golf courses so that no one comes along and builds too much housing on them.
- The Minnesota Legislature is considering a bill that would prohibit local governments from imposing minimum parking requirements on any type of development. Minneapolis' elimination of parking minimums has been credited with allowing a lot more small apartment construction.
- The Arizona Legislature is considering a "starter home" bill that would prohibit municipalities in urban areas of 50,000 or more people from regulating the lot size of single-family properties, imposing setbacks of greater than five feet, or imposing design and aesthetic requirements on single-family homes. The bill has already passed two committees in the House.
- Cincinnati, Ohio, is considering a zoning reform package that would eliminate all density restrictions in newly created "neighborhood business districts" and allow two-, three-, and four-unit homes within a quarter mile of these districts.
- Developers are proposing more residential high-rises under Florida's new Live Local Act, and raising the hackles of local governments when they do it. The New York Times reports on the first builder to sue to enforce the law, which he says entitles him to build a 600-unit project in wealthy Bal Harbour.
- A Missoula, Montana, realtor asks to intervene in a lawsuit against anti-density activists who managed to block the implementation of statewide ADU legalization.
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Do Americans Really Only Want Sprawl?
Clearly not the ones who live in dense cities. What a stupid question.
We're talking about Americans.
NYC exists! I swear! I've been there!
Well, at least I've been to a place I was told was NYC... I suppose it could all have been a prank.
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Did it smell like someone smoked weed in a stanky bathroom?
When I was there, it only stank like piss and burning tires.
I don't want sprawl. But I'm also single and don't have a family. If I had kids I would want a yard of some kind for them to play in. That means sprawl. Now I don't need a one acre back yard and half acre front yard. Gawd that would mean a riding mower! Power to those who want that, I don't.
But I do find it strange that Americans resist housing density. What's wrong with apartments? Why do politicians feel the need to weigh in on duplexes? And why the hell can't Americans build up?
Regardless, none of the government's business. At the same time, government needs to STAY OUT of that business! No zoning, or at least minimal and simple zoning. Stop trying to plan people's lives. It's funny how people get all up in arms over city "master plans" and land use "agendas", but at the same time they demand restrictive zoning. Rubbish.
I wonder how much of sprawl is due to politicians zoning which mandates sprawl on the periphery but prevents development in the center.
Behavorial sink is why many people would rather avoid the density advocates.
But I do find it strange that Americans resist housing density.
Michael Kane once described living in New York... "You look out your window and you're staring at someone making an omelet."
Not everyone wants that.
I've got no problem with you wanting to live out in the fake woods of a big lot township. My problem is using the government to enforce that.
Housing density doesn't mean New York. It also means quarter acre lots instead of two acre lots. It means legal duplexes. Stuff like that.
And why the hell can’t Americans build up?
They can but, all else being equal, moving laterally in the gravity well consumes infinitely less energy than continually moving up and down within it.
I don't make the laws in cities our outside America, but I'm pretty sure it's a law there as well.
Short form- physics makes it cheaper.
Gravity: Not just a good idea, it's the law!
Most of the sprawl is due to decades of zoning commercial and residential areas separately. There's no good reason that a high rise building can't be commercial on the first floor, and office space on the next few, and residential on the top floors.
The problem with that is that most people don't want to live above a Walmart.
My home town, it's downtown basically built up in the 20s and 30s. Two and three floor buildings. Every bottom floor a shop, the second and third floors are rentals.
Of course not everyone wants to live there. But that's no excuse to demand politicians zone it out of existence.
We've got in in our collective mindset that everyone has to live a middle class affluent lifestyle as depicted in sitcoms, and we've zoned all other modes of housing out of existence.
What sitcoms? Friends? Seinfeld? Cheers? Roseanne? Will and Grace? The Big Bang Theory? Mad About You? Murphy Brown? Family Matters? Frasier? What's the sitcom where people are living the middle class affluent lifestyle out in suburbia?
Maybe you think everyone else thinks they should be living like The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, The Simpsons, or the cast of Arrested Development but that says more about you than it does anything about reality or what other people actually think.
What’s wrong with apartments?
Constantly increasing rent payments, no way to build equity, loud neighbors, car alarms in the parking lot....there are many things wrong with appartments.
> If I had kids I would want a yard of some kind for them to play in.
I live in 1800 sqft 3/3 in an inner-ring suburb in California. There is virtually no yard (20x30 with lots of trees getting in the way, 12x15 grass).
My children do not suffer. There are parks on every fifth or sixth block. They're there now.
You lost me when you said, "in California".
I live in 1750 ft^2, on 20 acres, surrounded by nat'l forest. My kids can ATV or snowmobile into the forest for countless miles without seeing/touching pavement. No one calls the cops when they are "unattended".
I LOLed at idea of "lots of trees getting in the way" consuming ~half the square footage of 20 x 30 yard.
I've got lots of cars getting in the way in my garage too, taking up probably 12 x 15 of the 24 x 30 and between the stove, refrigerator, and dishwasher my kitchen is a veritable jungle of appliances.
Yeah, my shop is 30' X 40'.
But hey, he has city park access.
"What’s wrong with apartments?"
The government spent decades going back to the tail end of WWII selling the idea of home ownership as a way to build wealth.
Rent is money down the drain while mortgage payments are wealth in the form of equity.
*I'm not saying this is genuinely true, but it is the perception.
A perception that the government deliberately pushed for decades.
'Absent these policies, there likely would be more, and more affordable, single-family housing.'
Sure, only if single-family housing means whatever mini-domiciles can be squeezed into whatever place people wish had cheap housing. Young singles, childless hipster couples, and even some with their accessory mini-me might relish a small apartment or condo with micro patio, but a majority of American families prefer suburbia. And there is no way to magically provide more suburban style housing in the same central neighborhoods where everyone wants to live.
And enough of griping about "affordable" housing. If houses were not affordable, they would sit unsold. Last time I checked, that has not happened. If you want cheap housing that even marginally employed people can afford, say so.
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Why is Cato supporting someone in their view that giving money from the public fisc to renters is better than allowing developers to keep more of the money they make? Especially when you consider that the subsidies would encourage certain renters to outbid others for existing apartments (hence driving up rents), while tax credits would encourage adding to or improving the housing stock?
I mean, isn't this an unambiguous tell that the Kochtopus is trying to rope libertarian donors into supporting a "liberal" (as opposed to liberal) agenda? When it's up or down on individual policy items, there's usually wiggle room, defenses, excuses; but when it's a stated preference like this, what else could it be?
This is not like 45 years ago, when they oriented Inquiry to try to gain traction with a "liberal" audience for libertarian ideas, and when they fuzzed the "Byline" radio commentator stable to avoid Fairness Doctrine complaints by not being as identifiably libertarian. This is like the reverse of the intended propaganda flow of Inquiry, and by now they're not trying to hide any libertarian thrust.
There’s already an entire bureaucracy dedicated to housing vouchers for very low income renters. Cato wants more.
Subsidizing consumption is all the rage in Keynesian economics.
Why is Cato supporting someone in their view that giving money from the public fisc to renters is better than allowing developers to keep more of the money they make?
Welcome to Libertarianism Plus, Roberta. This is the brand of Libertarianism that believes in mass surveillance, license plate readers (if done right), mask mandates, just baking the cake and opening the borders (except the ones around the Congestion Pricing Zones... maintained by previously noted mass surveillance... and market-based carbon markets with five year plans and mandated electric vehicles-- as long as they're absent a Trump Tariff.
Don't forget about legalizing pedophilia, a lenient "cut wm loose" attitude towards organized swarms of retail looters and other street felons, and well the list of preferred "Libertarianism Plus" policies goes on and on.
other than clean water and sewer there should be no rules on house on private land. multi unit housing by its nature needs other requirements but only for the protection of others in the unit.
I live in a high fire area and the building requirements have put homes out of reach. who cares if i build a tinderbox for little money if it does burn down it will be easy and cheap to replace but at least i would have shelter.
BTW the new homes that meet the fire requirements still burn down
Those new 5 over 1 engineered wood frame buildings (5 floors wood, one floor concrete) are like kindling. They burn like a torch if they start burning during construction. When they’re done, they fireproof them with active sprinkler systems and firewalls between units. I saw one burning and you could see it from 10 miles away. I've heard it's not uncommon.
There have to be *some* fireproofing regulations or else you have a 'disaster of the commons' issue. Just because you choose to build a tinder-box doesn't mean that your neighbor with the slower burning house who paid for that feature should suffer because your cheap house blew up so fast the fire dept couldn't get there in time to prevent damage on their house.
I'm sorry, but talking about housing policy without acknowledging the havoc wreaked on asset prices, including housing, by the Fed's inflating away of the dollar is like talking about sex without acknowledging reproduction. Vastly more than land use restrictions, the long-term asset price bubble priced residential housing out of the grasp of the less affluent. That, in turn, probably shifts demand away from the housing people actually want to the housing they can afford.
Whoa, easy there, sport. “….. talking about sex without acknowledging reproduction” is damn near essential to a young mans ability to get laid. Bringing up babies kinda kills the mood.
There must be a better analogy.
>>This war on suburbia is ultimately a war on America's future
everything O down has been a war on America's future.
Just trying to get activist brown shirts in every neighborhood, so they don't have to bus them in next time.
Though Kotkin's article is light on the specific policies threatening suburbia
Do you need specifics when we have over half a century of one political party explicitly attacking sprawl and promising to eliminate the nuclear family and single-family home?
No one has been eliminating the single family home you moronic sack of shit. D's spent the 90's trying to get rid of redlining in order to EXPAND 'homeownership'. The result was subprime mortgages which exploded in - but were not the cause of - 2008.
R1 (single family) zones in CITIES are roughly 40-75% of the area there - within those city lines. They are higher than that in suburbs.
The utter failure of the US to deal with any of these is BECAUSE the D's spent decades subsidizing 'homeownership' and R's spent decades subsidizing 'homeownership'.
That photo shows the limits of what the government needs to do re 'housing type'. The suburban street pattern - hierarchical streets with curvy residential streets that eliminate thru traffic and control speed near residences and provide govt subsidized driveways - are always single family detached w garage by default. Those urbs that are based around them cannot function without cars as transport. And with those as universal givens for that sort of urb, it can make urb governance much easier. If that is how urbs expand into farmland, well so be it since that is clearly what big developers are comfortable with and those expansion projects require big developers and bond issuance. If those sorts of urbs go broke - and they will since they can only sprawl outwards not grow internally - so be it.
The other common type of street pattern - the grid - is where the R1 zones are poison. The grid street pattern is generally the limit of what the govt should do. Those grids predate cars within cities. Even in areas where they were an expansion, they emulated a village - connected to the city core via streetcar or interurban. aka a streetcar suburb. Those areas only became Euclidian R1 zones later as a direct consequence of realtor/bank lobbying, Hoover era stuff ('Own Your Own Home' and 'Better Homes in America' campaigns, 'Standard State Zoning Enabling Act' and Euclid v Ambler which spread those nationwide), and then HOLC/FHA New Deal stuff.
That govt shit along with all the destruction of cities in the 50's, 60's, and 70's, needs to be reversed in order to fix American cities. But libertarians of the ilk here - suburban not urban - are part of the problem in fixing cities and indeed prefer to keep destroying them.
I think the point of the article was that government should repeal at least 99% of the urban AND suburban regulations and restrictions. High population density urban centers are doomed in the long run for reasons of technology advances and maintenance costs overhead, but there's no particular reason to make those costs higher than necessary. Also, cities are doomed in the long run because of bureaucratic accretion and unavoidable corruption. Eliminating the chokehold of organized public labor on city government and the incestuous relationship at City Hall would help somewhat, but probably not enough to save the cities.
And what I'm saying is that cities need to run themselves and burbs need to run themselves. The two don't mix. Nor do their finances. Nor does any ideological pigeonhole you want to interpret everything through. It is easy to tell which is which by looking at the street layout. Separate them into entirely different states if necessary.
Good ol’ Jfree always knows what needs to be done by everybody else.
Haha. What a doosh.
Playing devil’s advocate here, but can the free market REALLY tell where the best farmland is? If so, how? The last time I checked, highly productive farmland was well over $10,000 an acre and some family farms had been going bankrupt when the heirs couldn't pay the death taxes. Does importing food from South America to replace food no longer grown on the best farmland in the United States after being replaced by half-acre ranch-style home lots make any sense? And how does “the market” know the difference?
If you have ever seen a video on YouTube by an urban planner you will understand the dripping contempt that brand of social engineer has been indoctrinated in against people who do not want to live in high density areas and want their own private transportation.
Not ONE of them is trying to 'plan' your suburbs. Not one. They may be dripping with contempt but the reality is that city 'planning' departments have long been full of people who live in the suburbs, commute to the city, and spend their day trying to kill the city by demolishing neighborhoods via eminent domain and building more highways thru it to shorten their commute. To replicate their suburb because it's the only thing they know. And who then divert accountability to either a state level or to a multi-county MSA type admin area where suburbs control decisions for the city so city residents can't even control their own city.
THAT'S what many of these youtubers have contempt for. Existing city planning departments that are making decisions as if they are suburbs (ie shitty decisions for a city). That's how those youtubers can come up with so many shitty examples of those shitty decisions over the decades.
Bullshit. Knee deep bullshit.
They quite literally fantasize about making everyone live in a “walkable” urban environment and eliminating parking so they cannot have their own vehicles. It is positively an erotic experience for them.
By the way, the area where I currently live is in the beginning stages of a project to eliminate the interstate highways going through downtown.
Point to one of them who wants to do that with suburbs. The entire effort would be pointless in any urb with the street design of a burb. I’ve never seen or heard of one who wants to tear down the streets, rebuild it all as a grid, and then tear down all the houses, and rebuild those to a grid – and THEN and only then start on their fantasies of walkability. It’s ludicrous. What they want to do is recover and restore a grid-based part of a city network.
the area where I currently live is in the beginning stages of a project to eliminate the interstate highways going through downtown.
That’s good news. Eisenhower went apoplectic when he realized that the Interstates were cutting through cities rather than (generally) connecting ring roads and bypasses to other cities ring roads (like the autobahn). It was supposed to be a higher speed long-distance transport system not something that clogs up for and subsidizes commuters and city traffic and turns into a massive eminent domain expense. Granted he didn’t understand the need for pork in making sausage but he was right.
They do not suggest this for suburban areas because they do not want suburbs to exist at all.
Yeah, limiting the way to get into the city center will not have an detrimental effects.
This. They dream of a day when everyone lives in their pigeonhole on the 6th or 11th or 17th floor of their apartment tower, walks to the bodega for their food, takes the subway to their job, “owns nothing and is happy”. No cars, ever. Suburbs all converted to greenspace.
No bugs?
Wikipedia:
The Line (stylized THE LINE; Arabic: ذا لاين) is a linear smart city under construction in Saudi Arabia in Neom, Tabuk Province, which is designed to have no cars, streets or carbon emissions.[2][3] The 170-kilometre-long (110 mi) city is one of the nine announced regions of Neom and is a part of Saudi Vision 2030 project, which Saudi Arabia claims will create around 460,000 jobs and add an estimated $48 billion to the country's GDP.[2] The Line is planned to be the first development of a $500 billion project in Neom. The city's plans anticipate a population of 9 million -- 25% of Saudi Arabia's current population of 35.5 million.[4] Excavation work had started along the entire length of the project by October 2022.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42949-023-00115-y
Imagine that instead of a line, we take the buildings that will be constructed in that city and we arrange them differently. Like playing with Lego bricks. We can think of a city called The Circle, where we take the same tall buildings as in The Line but put them next to each other, forming a circular shape. A circle that occupies the same surface as The Line (34 km2) has a radius of only 3.3 km. In The Circle, the expected distance between two random people is only 2.9 km. In The Circle, a person is at a walking distance of 24% of the population (and within 2 km, they could reach 66% of the destinations), so most of their mobility could be active. In The Circle, a high-speed rail system is unnecessary since people could walk or cycle to most places, and buses could supply the rest of the journeys. The Circle occupies roughly the same surface as Pisa, Italy, but has 50 times its population. A round urban form is the most desirable since it reduces commuting distances and the energy required for transport9.
https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/03/7-3-billion-people-one-building.html?utm_content=bufferefbc1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
This cubic building would have a side of 1.07km (about 2/3 of a mile), giving it a base of about 1.1km—a little over double the size of the Boeing Factory base—and a height of 1,070m (3,511 feet), which is 29% taller than the Burj Khalifa, the world’s tallest skyscraper. That’s a large building, but neither the base nor the height alone are unfathomable by modern architectural standards.
It's certainly true that limiting entrance into a city center has detrimental effects. So does setting aside massive amounts of expensive land for streets, parking, etc and lots of money for lights, intersections, signs, traffic cops, etc. For example - 26% of downtown Atlanta is devoted to land for parking. That obviously doesn't include streets.
Worse - cars and people cannot share the same space so if a city is allocating land for one the other is excluded/subordinated.
Ah, so we are on "It is not happening, but if it did happen, then it would be a good thing".
Apparently the answer is that JFree has NOT encountered these urban planners. I've heard from them often at our city council meetings.
At city council or suburb council?
MORE Commie-Housing developments….
Remember that day the people amended the Constitution for Commie-Housing???
Yeah. Me neither. F’En [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s].
And bipartisan at that…. Makes me sick to see the Nazi’s gaining so much power so fast.
Someone take this bill to the Supreme Court.
No, Americans don't only want sprawl. Some people want to live in urban areas, or downtown areas that are walkable and interesting.
But the people who do want sprawl (the great majority) bought houses in the suburbs because they don't want to live in interesting urban areas, and they certainly don't want to be told by the state government that their sprawling suburb has to throw in a bunch of apartment buildings.
What state is telling their suburbs they need to build apartment buildings? Is this just another bit of CA shit?
Well, my state (blue Massachusetts) is messing up it's economy because people can't afford to live near their jobs. This is partially because lots of the city housing is grabbed up by luxury condos for foreign buyers to visit occasionally, or is sat on (empty) for investments.
While the city governments are looking into re-developing some office buildings, a law passed so some of the inner suburbs are being told that they have to let developers build modest 2 to 4 story apartments and condos in areas closest to train stops. Lots of NIMBY blowback. If you live that close to the T, you might just either make a lot of money by selling your house to a developer, or you might have to live next to a very tightly regulated apartment building and live with a loss of free street parking. Also, some of the now-empty school buildings might just get used and the tax-base might increase. Only about 10-15 percent of the housing will be 'affordable' so the YIMBYs don't have to worry about their suburbs being contaminated by poor people.
I already live pretty close to some suburban apartments and it's really not a big deal.
NY
https://nypost.com/2023/01/10/hochul-plans-to-force-building-of-affordable-housing-on-long-island/
But I think Hochul has backed down since.
And some of us want to send your suburban sprawl packing from our rural communities (as pointed out in the article).
I moved to farm country 20 years ago to be away from cities and suburbs and now that farmland is going the way of the dodo as its not cool to live in the city anymore with kids and the suburbs are either too expensive or are experiencing the same city blight. But cest la vie.
Did anyone ever find out who planted those pipe bombs on January 6th?
https://twitter.com/RealBrittain/status/1754647932115046527
Trump?
Sprawl or Scrunch, stay off my asphalt-covered lawn!
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Why pick to address the issue with the ONLY want sprawl option?
Where do you draw the line between space for privacy and "sprawl"?
Are you anti-green spaces, or just anti-family?
Do you still beat your wife?
No, Americans do not want to be crammed together in your “15 minute neighborhoods”. Just fuck off with that.
Some Americans do and are willing to pay for that. The 10 most expensive houses (really condos) in NYC last year were all in one building - ranging from $50 million to $100 million. And hey presto - that location is an easy 15 minute city. With 15 groceries, 18 schools, 18 leisure places (including Central Park), and 20+ each of transport, culture, theaters, entertainment, etc - all within 15 minute walk.
NYC is something of a unicorn in American culture. What goes there does not really translate to the rest of the country.
Boston is not nearly as interesting as NYC, but there is still a huge demand for housing in any walkable neighborhood near public transportation. Housing in most decent city neighborhoods is expensive. Even the 'not-so-decent' neighborhoods have high demand.
The better parts of every city are very likely to be 15 minute neighborhoods. The poorer neighborhoods almost certainly not.
15 minute neighborhoods work everywhere. Every trip to everywhere else begins and ends by walking even if the walk is just to the garage.
What seems ridiculous to me is some mandate that all walks must end in the garage because otherwise you can't get there from here. In the country, I expect a walk to get me to serious walk options in nature. In the city, I expect a walk to get me to serious places I want to go.
We were talking about Americans.
Americans don't want sprawl.
Not at all.
Because 'sprawl' is a term invented to demonize wanting a bit of land even if it's just a nice sized yard.
Demonized? By who?
By the same people 'removing' regulations that would hinder them from further densifying properties.
They want people living in dense insular villages. Because disunified people are easier to control.
The framing is so ridiculous. I want my own space. I want outdoor space to do with as I please. Our modest single family home is fine, but ideally we want to have a couple acres and be further from town. I would rather own property to do the things I enjoy than renting time at specific places to do them. I don’t want to be packed in with a bunch of other people. We lived in an apartment for a couple years and despite it being a quiet and safe property I hated not being able to get away from people and not having my own space.
Do you guys publish this stuff just to piss us off??
The writer clearly doesn’t get Kotkin. I am a career planner. While I don’t agree with everything Kotkin writes, at least he is a promoting a planning philosophy that IS about personal rights and liberty. The majority of planners today have sold their ethics and integrity out to their worship of authoritarian growth policy. Planners are supposed to strive for equality and creating a better built environment. They are NOT called to support only what they desire. The National and State association of planners have lead the charge with negative "progressive" ideology.
The writer says:
“At the end of the day, I think this whole argument is a bit of a waste of breath for anyone who doesn't want to force people to live a certain way.
We don't need policy wonks to figure out whether Americans really want large-lot, single-family homes in the suburbs, a high-rise apartment downtown, or anything in between.”
The writer is all wrong on what is happening. California is consistently adopting legislation that combats suburbia. Mandatory ADUs on every property, SB-9 that further limits the right to life in a single family neighborhood. Do you know that there is no longer the ability to guarantee that if you buy a suburban single family house in California there is no guarantee that the neighbor won’t build a fourplex????
It is NOT a free market. Yet, the uninformed writer says: “Free markets do a pretty good job of sorting out people's preferences without lots of white papers and magazine columns. It's why we don't need endless articles at National Review and Reason about whether Americans prefer Coke or Pepsi.” Tone deaf.
Joel Kotkin is right and he is also a prophet. His position is libertarian. Live in an urban setting if you want to. I support that. But if I want to live in a single family neighborhood or in a rural area: leave me the **** alone.
The urban planners are specifically targeting high median income areas in order to subsidize very low income renter's kids public schools, public transportation. It’s the magic money printing machine.
Utopian fantasies (Central Planning) wither in the face of reality. Every. Single. Time.
Sorry to offer a sort of “mean tweet”, BUT,, density that accepts federal housing vouchers destroys everything, whether it’s a families safe living situation or an investment. The leftist planners write that they want to mandate Section 8 vouchers, place baby mamas in the suburbs to spread the cost of “better schools” for their ten -15 kids to suburban property owners, while turning a red or purple suburb deep blue.
Density nightmares:
https://www.financialsamurai.com/worst-landlord-horror-story/
In addition, people have to spend much more on a home to escape the trash that HUD keeps pushing into decent neighborhoods.
If there's going to be regulation, then eliminate zoning approval for high-volume residential centers in suburbia.
That is, take out the apartment complexes. Especially those marketed towards low-income (or worse, Section 8) renters.
I'm 100% convinced that's the urban response to suburbia. It's an urban city-planners effort to raise cost-of-living and lower quality of life in suburban (especially affluent suburban) areas. Like some kind of reverse-gentrification of those places that are objectively better in all regards than urban areas because local communities have been free to build local communities.