Portland Requires Homeowners Get Permits To Remove Trees Knocked on Their Homes by Winter Storm
In some cases, the city is also requiring homeowners to pay to replace trees that squashed their houses.

If you need more evidence that America has become a "permission-slip" society, look no further than the City of Portland, Oregon, requiring homeowners to get permits to remove trees that've fallen on their houses during recent winter storms.
Portland alt-weekly Willamette Week published a story last week about Joel and Sarah Bonds, who had a large Douglas Fir in the backyard squash their house after it became weighed down with ice. The tree barely missed the Bonds' young daughter and cat.
As it turns out, the couple were not unaware of the danger posed by the tree. In 2021, they'd applied for a necessary city permit to cut down the tree and another in their backyard. The city's Urban Forestry division turned them down, citing the trees' apparent health and the damage their removal would do to the "neighborhood character."
That decision rankles the Bonds now. Making them even more mad is the fact that the city is requiring them to obtain a $100 retroactive removal permit for the one tree that fell on their house and plant a new one in its place at their own expense.
A Forestry Department employee also advised them to hire an arborist to chop down the second, still-standing tree, but that they should take care to document the work in case they'd need to apply for another removal permit. According to the Willamette Week story, the couple could risk daily $1,000 fines for removing the tree without a permit.
The Bonds aren't the only homeowners being required to get retroactive removal permits for trees knocked down by the weather. This fact has provoked local outrage and calls for a change in policy.
A recent Oregonian editorial argues that the city should suspend the need to get retroactive removal permits for weather-downed trees, noting that neighboring cities in the area are not requiring such permits. One lawyer who spoke to the paper argued that the city code doesn't obviously apply to trees felled by bad weather.
The city maintains that the removal permits are required by the city code and that city council action is needed to waive those permitting requirements.
The whole episode is an illustration of how property rights have been turned on their head in America's cities. The city regulates tree removal to protect surrounding property owners' interest in the shade and character of the neighborhood. Homeowners' interests in doing what they please on their land are of secondary concern, even though they have to bear all costs and liabilities associated with keeping these trees on their properties.
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You vote for it, you get it.
And if you vote in crazy, power-mad bastards whose chief delight in life is telling other people what they “may” not do, at least without a proper genuflection in their direction and the payment of a suitable weight of Danegeld, you get what you richly deserve!
The dumb bastards of Portland voted in the people who made these rules or the people who named the people who made these rules to the boards and committees that gave them the situation they now live in. It was so important to X that he be able to tell his neighbor when he could cut down a tree on his property that it never occurred to him that his neighbor might want to deny him cutting down a tree that threatened his home or penalize him or extract “la mordita” to allow him to cut the tree off his house once it had fallen.
Looks to me like a “justice” expressed as a goodly dose of Karma all ’round. Any wagers on whether voting patterns in Portland change after this example of petty power and pay-to-play?
If, like most cities, Portland needs “more revenue”, I’d suggest a per-leaf tax when trees shed in the fall, coupled with an absolute prohibition against cutting down your trees. (After all, it’s Connecticut I think, that taxes rainfall, so why not.) And while we’re at it, if there were some way to keep tax scofflaws from cheating, they could pass a nookie tax, to be assessed each time the old lady is in an agreeable mood, and a lesser self-service tax to be assessed when she isn’t.
Looks to me like a “justice” expressed as a goodly dose of Karma all ’round. Any wagers on whether voting patterns in Portland change after this example of petty power and pay-to-play?
I'll take that action. These people are too stupid and too ideological to make those changes. It's only getting imposed from the top-down at this point, if it ever does. This is what happens when an urban area morphs into a Calhoun rat expriment.
Keep Portland Weird.
I think you can fly the "Mission Accomplished" banner on that request...
Yeah, if only "weird" was the metric they were going for...
Shit like like this is why cities like Portland push for renters. That way they have a compliant block of know nothings that can feel good about "being involved" but never suffer the consequences of their stupidity.
^ this. My exact thought when I saw this article.
But no, they’ll just keep voting for the progressive assholes who do this.
It’s the democrat way.
All I can say is:
Suffer, suffer, suffer!
Hey government is just another word for the things we choose to do together, man. It's like the price we pay to live in a free society.
I've hated that quote ever since I first heard it on The West Wing. I've been told since that it's attributed to Barney Frank but I've never found a definitive source.
I heard him say it on some PBS show maybe 25 years ago. I have never been so angry in my life.
You misspelled 'are forced' as 'choose'.
^Yeah, this.
Some lefturd pinhead tried that line on me once, I told him: "Fuck you, I didn't choose to expose servicemen to radiation to see what would happen, or defraud syphilis patients while denying them treatment, or try to blackmail MLK into killing himself. Things we do together, my ass."
-jcr
I certainly didn’t sign on for any unconstitutional socialist programs.
defraud syphilis patients while denying them treatment
The schadenfreudiest part of that statement is, apparently we all agreed to actually *give* Guatemalans syphilis to see what would happen and nobody found out until 2010ish. "We" literally "agreed" to conduct syphilis experiments on Guatemalan orphans without anyone's knowledge or consent.
The whole episode is an illustration of how property rights have been turned on their head in America's cities.
*clears throat*
A recent Oregonian editorial argues that the city should suspend the need to get retroactive removal permits for weather-downed trees, noting that neighboring cities in the area are not requiring such permits.
Well, apparently not ALL of America's cities. I wonder if there are political forces at work in American cities like Portland, San Francisco, Seattle, Los Angeles... forces that aren't as active or powerful on those pesky "neighboring cities".
Freedom means asking permission and obeying orders.
/petty tyrants
You love and cherish those petty tyrants. Despite your drunken protestations to the contrary.
What if the tree is racist?
Well, it could spontaneously combust, right? Call it righteous lightning or something.
Yeah, those damn White Pines.
https://www.koin.com/local/portland-school-fears-evergreens-mascot-tied-to-lynching/
PORTLAND, Ore. (PORTLAND TRIBUNE) — The adoption of a new mascot for Ida B. Wells-Barnett High School was put on pause, after concerns about potential connotations of lynching.
After adopting a new namesake earlier this year, the Southwest Portland high school also wants to ditch its Trojan mascot. A committee comprised of students, staff and community members suggested the evergreens as the school’s new mascot.
“Evergreens are characterized by the life-giving force of their foliage, the strength of their massive trunk, and the depth of their roots—in an individual tree and as a forest of trees,” Ellen Whatmore, a teacher and mascot committee member at Wells-Barnett High School said, reading from a resolution. “They provide shelter and sustenance. They have histories that preclude us and will continue in perpetuity after we are no more.”
But just before the Portland Public Schools Board of Education’s vote to approve the new mascot Tuesday, March 30, Director Michelle DePass shared community concerns of an unwanted correlation between Ida B. Wells—the historic Black activist, and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who documented and crusaded against lynching—and a tree which could conjure up reminders of hanging people with ropes from branches.
I wonder if the non-dinosaurs felt the same way about the demise of the outdated dinosaur race as the Bonds do about the long, painful, tortured death of the cities? Most people with any sense at all realized a long time ago that any government that has the power to deny you the right to cut down a tree on your property because it would "change the character of the neighborhood" should be gotten as far away from as possible as quickly as possible. Apparently, the Bonds didn't have any sense and deserve what they got.
That’s how I see it.
Agreed.
Get the permit, move the downed tree into the yards of various city councilors, then demand they get a permit to remove the tree.
No sympathy. They are getting exactly the government they voted for. de Tocqueville was right.
Yeah baby, watch it burn.
(lawyer): "the city code doesn't obviously apply ..vs....(city) the removal permits are required by the city code.
Well: What IS the text of this disputed city code?
Does not matter what the city codes say, the fact is that the city has no legal authority of its own, and can only act against any individual if they are borrowing the delegated authority of someone whose rights they are defending. So permits can never be required as long as the rights of others are not at risk. Removing a downed tree harms no one and is good for everyone, so legally no permit can be required, ever.
my city has gone completely bat shit
there were a pair of unfortunate accidents where seniors (approaching 90 years of age) walked into traffic and were killed
the response has been to remove lanes from busy roads
so you have a busy road with 2 lanes in each direction ... the mental midgets in city government have taken it down to 1 in each direction ... the traffic is much worse ... probably a climate alarmist element to the nonsense ... they have a doctored study that says they have reduced accidents by 30% ... they are breaking their arms patting themselves on the back
They’re doing the same thing on busy arterials in Spokane. Leftists saying we need a ‘road diet’. Even though our population has significantly increased in the last decade.
Democrats have no right to exist.
Well what do you know. Someone snuck on my property in the middle of night and stole that fallen tree!
Mine disappeared in a tragic boating accident.
This is when you hoist the tree up and drop it into the road. Nor my problem.
I planted an acorn right there, in the hole left by the first tree. The new tree is on the way!
Portland is a shithole. Don't need a permit in neighboring Hillsboro.
No wonder Idaho is filling up with Oregon refugees.
Democrats nationwide taking notes.
Some years back, someone I knew bought property that had an unpermitted shack on it in addition to the main house. Santa Cruz county ordered him to demolish it, and demanded that he APPLY FOR A PERMIT to do so. Fucking idiot bureaucrats.
He ended up just knocking it down without asking for permission, and told them it blew over in a windstorm.
-jcr
I got a letter from my town code enforcement fascists to make small repairs to my house. Then I was told I needed a permit to do so. I want to their office and told the story, and then said," Do you understand you have made this simultaneously mandatory and forbidden?" Two looked at me uncomprehendingly. Their boss glared at me.
If there's a mass shooting at the municipal building here I'll mortgage my house to contribute to the perp's legal defense fund.
A guy I worked with requested a permit to remove a tree that was in danger of falling on his house. The Township Code Enforcement Officer turned it down. A few months later the tree fell during an ice storm narrowly missing the house. The same Code Enforcement Officer cited him for not removing the debris fast enough. The guy went to the Township Meeting and went off on the Board. He's now the Code Enforcement Officer. If you go to get a tree removal permit, he'll ask if you need to borrow a chain saw and wood chipper.
We require permits because we want the work inspected by city inspectors to make sure the work done is up to code standard.
Permits and inspections are mandatory to prevent shoddy Workmanship
Why would the inspectors have more interest in quality work than the homeowner? As I see it, three people should be able to tell you to fix your house: you, your mortgage holder, and your insurance company. They are the only ones with a legitimate interest.
The rest is just petty authoritarianism.
@docduracoat, except requiring permits when there is no risk to others is illegal. The city has no authority to do that. And in fact, the city has no expertise in even knowing how work should be done. Nor could their expertise be any good over tree removal since the inspector will not show up until a week after it is all done anyway. So none of that provides any rational or excuse. The fact some lawyers pass legislation is NOT what makes something legal or illegal. This is a republic with inherent individual rights as the basis for constitutions, that then generate legal authority.
Fuck off, slaver. You're just looking for another pretext to collect bribes. The work can be done perfectly, and shitstains like you will drag their feet for months on signing off on it until you get paid.
-jcr
Very proud of my father-in-law and others in our small town. A few decades back, City Council was contemplating a law that would allow city inspectors to enter your home and yard (no warrant needed) and assess them for safety violations. If they found violations, the homeowner had to hire city-approved workmen to repair them. Father-in-law and hundreds of his fellow homeowners packed the city council meeting where this was to be voted on, to make their displeasure known. The law was passed in a lightning move at the beginning of the meeting, whereupon spokesmen in the crowd said they would refuse to leave until it was repealed. When a few councilmembers snuck out, on the pretense of needing to use the bathroom, folks stuck outside sent the word, "They're sneaking out the back door!" and no one else got potty privileges. When council threatened to call the police, people in the crowd said, "What are they going to do?" The police force had fewer than ten officers.
The law was repealed at that same meeting, and never resurrected.
I hope that the good people of the town took their next opportunity to bounce every single one of those asswipes off the taxpayers' teat.
-jcr
City governments have become a training camp for woke do-gooders. The bar to get elected is pretty low since they reliably vote D, and you are then open to taking bribes, er I mean grants, from every left leaning special interest nonprofit.
Watch as the progressive/aggressive government milks the cows dry.
Elections have consequences.
It can be a promise *and* a threat!
The process is the punishment.
The police should arrest the city building inspectors for trying to dictate building codes no city could ever have legal authority to impose. When a repair cannot possibly harm anyone else, then the city has zero authority to say anything at all.
Give a government administrator a little power and they will unilaterally try and expand that power. This is a perfect example of it. The tree is already down. Its not going to come back alive. A permit is ridiculous. If they wanted to do something they should simply require a notification after the fact for downed trees due to mother nature. Its still stupid, but whatever create a form and have the local tree company check a box, state the reason the tree fell, sign and date it.
Have they tried telling the government that the tree now identifies as a log?
Or would the government just give logs special extra rights and protections?
Oh, right. Probably the second one.
Actually this is Portland. They'd say that logs can identify as trees, even when we can all see they're logs.
I know most of us feel "This is what they voted for" but remember not everyone is blue in Portland. There are some sane people. A few.
Anyway, it's a shame that tree caught on fire. We got to it right before it got to our house
I had a similar thought.
As it turns out, the couple were not unaware of the danger posed by the tree. In 2021, they'd applied for a necessary city permit to cut down the tree and another in their backyard. The city's Urban Forestry division turned them down, citing the trees' apparent health and the damage their removal would do to the "neighborhood character."
The city's Urban Forestry division should have to pay for the damages to the home.
@Lynn, Hillsboro is where the most high tech is, like Intel, and it is not redneck at all. The more rural suburbs are high end housing.