No, Blocking Traffic Is Not Protected by the First Amendment
The freedom to protest is essential to the American project. It also does not give you carte blanche to violate other laws.

On Saturday, Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA) posted a warning on X, formerly known as Twitter. "TRAFFIC ALERT," it read. "Expect delays around the airport due to a group in vehicles exercising first amendment rights in roadway. Use caution and expect slow moving vehicles."
The post was a reference to a caravan, with several vehicles flying Palestinian flags, that claimed every lane as they inched along the roadway to the airport, reportedly causing hefty traffic delays.
It is certainly a driver's free speech prerogative to fly their flag of choice. That has nothing to do, however, with obstructing traffic, which is entirely irrelevant to the First Amendment.
One legally confused post from an airport in Virginia doesn't necessarily say much when viewed in a vacuum. But the assertion is indicative of a larger trend, as highway blockades continue to pick up steam across the country. In January, pro-Palestine activists cut off access to the Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Williamsburg Bridges, along with the Holland Tunnel, during rush hour. We've seen similar demonstrations in Seattle, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, and Philadelphia. That list is not exhaustive. And DCA is not the first airport targeted by protesters: In late December, for example, demonstrators obstructed traffic outside Kennedy International Airport and Los Angeles International Airport during one of the busiest travel weeks of the year.
A settlement in New York essentially seeks to sanction the practice. "Where an FAA [First Amendment Activity] temporarily blocks vehicular or pedestrian traffic or otherwise obstructs public streets or sidewalks, the NYPD [New York Police Department] shall whenever possible accommodate the demonstration," reads a proposed agreement between the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of New York, the Legal Aid Society, New York Attorney General Letitia James, and the NYPD in response to lawsuits pertaining to the police's handling of various protests in 2020.
The settlement is still up in the air; the police union is trying to fight it. But there is something richly ironic about the state's top law enforcement officer attempting to give the public a green light to break the law. And the ACLU, also involved in the settlement, acknowledges in its own guidance that detaining people by blocking a roadway is not a legal, First Amendment–protected activity.
"The right to peacefully assemble and protest is sacrosanct and foundational to our democracy," said New York Attorney General James in September after the settlement was unveiled. "Too often peaceful protesters have been met with force that has harmed innocent New Yorkers simply trying to exercise their rights."
James is correct that freedom of expression is crucial and central to the American project. It's also not a force field by which people are shielded from other rules. If I want to get people's attention by, say, driving 120 miles an hour while sporting a Palestinian flag, I cannot tell the officer who pulls me over for reckless driving that I'm simply exercising my free speech rights. The First Amendment does not give carte blanche to violate the law.
Activists may invoke the father of the civil rights movement, Martin Luther King Jr., when defending blockades. That's understandable. It's also misguided. As I wrote in 2022:
Though King did lead a protest from Selma to Montgomery, famously filling the Edmund Pettus Bridge, it was a march. It did not block interstate and highway traffic indefinitely for the sake of it—a tactic King was not comfortable with, despite pressure in the 1960s to get on board. "Even though King didn't come out and criticize it in public, in private he thought it was a misguided tactic," said Brandon Terry, assistant professor of African and African American Studies and Social Studies at Harvard University. "The NAACP thought it was ridiculous." King reportedly posited that such a move pushed the boundaries of acceptable demonstrations and would come back to bite the movement politically.
Protesting isn't meant to be convenient. But you might find it difficult to convince people you're the good guy when your blockades are hurting the vulnerable people you often claim to stand for, like this man who may have lost his parole, or this woman who went into labor.
Some folks may disagree. That is indisputably their right, and I'm thankful for that. Also not in dispute: It is not their right to detain people, no matter how righteous they believe their cause to be.
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What is the legal definition of kidnapping?
Something something keeping people against their will something something?
To the extent they are blocking interstates, they are violating the "no pedestrians" law.
Some clever right wind DA needs to announce he will treat running over people blocking a road like CA treats shoplifting.
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If you have a First Amendment right to protest by stringing a line of protesters across a public thoroughfare and impeding traffic, why don't I have a First Amendment right to counter-protest by driving through that line of meat puppets at a "reasonable" speed (no more than 55 mph) if I give suitable warning with blaring horn and flashing headlights? (We always must observe the "duty to warn".)
Also, if I don't have a pickup with a large pipe bumper, would insurance cover the damage to my grill and hood under my collision policy with a deductible, or in full under my comprehensive coverage? Would I be charged for "littering" a public highway if I counter-protested?
Inquiring minds want to know! I want to know.
One last consideration: after the second, or perhaps the third, well-publicized and successful "counter-protest", do you think highway blockage protests would continue?
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Well, take Washington state law for a fabulously concise example:
RCW 9A.40.040 Unlawful imprisonment. (1) A person is guilty of unlawful imprisonment if he or she knowingly restrains another person. (2) Unlawful imprisonment is a class C felony.
So here in Washington State, it would be completely reasonable for police to arrest, and prosecutors to charge with this felony, all those folks who were intentionally blocking I-5 a few days ago
Except the governments in Washington State are in the same ideological lane as the highway blocking morons. So odds are they won't prosecute them. In states where the governments aren't in league with the highway blocking morons they aren't going to play their games.
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Uhm... if a motorist is capable of getting out of their car and walking away, then they are not being restrained.
However, I'm pretty sure there are laws nearly everywhere against impeding the flow of traffic or such that these various jurisdictions quite simply refuse to enforce against protestors...
Keeping someone against their will is false imprisonment.
Taking hostages is kidnapping.
When all else fails, take a hostage.
Blocking a freeway or a critical bridge isn't just violating the jaywalking clause, it can be construed as terrorism, if done for political reasons. Libertarians may not like those Sept 11 laws, but they were passed by Congress and signed by Bush.
I would lie if necessary to get on a jury in a case involving an enraged driver who ran down protesters blocking a legal right of way. And I would be very hard to convince to vote to convict. I can't believe I'm the only one who would feel that way.
What if one of those protesters was a retard with an Ar15 pointed at you - would you mow down people to potentially save yourself? Fire preemptively at the ar15 wielder?
If the crowd would be mowed down by my defensive fire to get to the AR 15 weilder then wouldn't all those same people work as human shields to protect me from the retarded gunman?
I'm a good enough shot to hit a human torso at a range where a jumped up .22 would be effective. A retard with an AR 15 wouldn't likely be a good shot with a stock AR 15 being it is a clone of the second worst weapon carried by a standing army into battle.
You are not the only one.
JURY NULLIFICATION: Learn it. Live it. Do it. Never admit it.
As to the issue of lying. Be not concerned. One is not honor-bound when dealing with (or enmeshed in) a system that is totally without honor.
And of course, if you use cops to clear them from the roadway, be prepared to hand them $20M or so (but only if they are black protesters burning down cities, apparently; white people trespassing and complaining about political issues will be incarcerated for years without trial and all elements of the federal judicial system will be brought to bear).
The recent lede Reason Roundup story by associate editor Liz Wolfe condemned the (Liberal) federal government of Canada for breaking up the ‘Freedom Convoy’ demonstrations that paralyzed the Canadian capital in 2022.
Thus, there are actually two Reason/Libertarian parties. One condemns pedestrians blocking a highway in the name of free speech, the other defends the right to seize an entire city and run diesels outside apartments.
Guess it just depends what is being protested.
What it comes down to in the end is what you believe in and how hard do you believe in it.
I do like this quote by Samuel Clemons.
Doesn’t matter what the press says. Doesn’t matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn’t matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — “No, you move.”
Actually, kidnapping involves transporting the victim against the victim's will. Preventing the victim from moving about is unlawful imprisonment.
In the case referred to in this article, the protesters were not pedestrians. The used their vehicles to obstruct traffic.
I agree the protesters should be punished for obstructing traffic, and don't necessarily object to "self help" actions by those attempting to use the roads for getting to where they are going.
"The right to peacefully assemble and protest is sacrosanct and foundational to our democracy,"
Personally I think that there is a strong argument that blocking traffic is not peaceful.
Intentionally detaining other people from going about their business is an assault, no matter how passive-aggressively it is accomplished.
Amen, Mickey Rat, good job and well and succinctly put!
So those protests at abortion clinics, drag brunches, the "Trump Freedom Convoy", those guys that encircled the Biden campaign bus in Texas, whoever it is that brings the I-5 to a crawl whenever I have to head into LA... criminals all, eh?
Anyone who deliberately and significantly hinders my passage, as I try to make a living and pursue my goals... On public routes of transport, which I as a taxpayer helped to pay for... Is essentially KIDNAPPING me, and falsely imprisoning me! Which is, and should be, a crime! Twat problem do ye have with this simple, common-sense stance?
Protesting outside an event or a facility is not illegal. Blocking the road is. Try to keep up.
"Protesting outside an event or a facility is not illegal."
Doing so in a way that deliberately blocks people from entering or leaving the event or facility can be.
For the abortion protests that deliberately block clinic access (not all of them do this): yes.
"drag brunches"
I've not heard of deliberately obstructive protests at drag brunches, but if it happened: yes.
"“Trump Freedom Convoy”, those guys that encircled the Biden campaign bus in Texas": Yes.
"whoever it is that brings the I-5 to a crawl whenever I have to head into LA…" If you are referring to normal heavy traffic, no. If someone is deliberately blocking traffic, yes.
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WTF is a ‘drug brunch’?
The sausages are disgusted as eggs.
You returned here to remni9nd us of what a fucking lefty ignoramus you are, right? Consider your job done.
No one said this, dipstick.
"So those protests at abortion clinics, drag brunches, the “Trump Freedom Convoy”, those guys that encircled the Biden campaign bus in Texas, whoever it is that brings the I-5 to a crawl whenever I have to head into LA… criminals all, eh?"
They ARE treated as criminals. Prosecuted and everything.
Indeed, and I would disagree with the writer here about the march that blocked the bridge. If the roadway is reserved to vehicles, then the marchers to be legal need to keep to the sidewalks, cross streets only when permissible if there are traffic light and crosswalk light controls, etc.
Spilling out onto the roadway in blocking traffic, just because there are lots of you, is an intentional impeding of traffic.
Great theory, but I don't think many "marches" worthy of the name have ever been confined to sidewalks. Some disruption is inevitable.
However, when disruption is the goal, you could argue that a line has been crossed.
The public roads are constitution free zones. Try remaining silent if a cop pulls you over on an interstate. Try refusing to show ID, after all that is self incriminating. Try asking for a free lawyer.
Keep in mind if they arrest you they will talk about your right to remain silent. They will tell you you can have a lawyer and that the state will provide you one. Those righs aren't granted by the police, they existed before you even got on the freeway. However on the freeway you don't get those rights. You have to give the cop identification paper. You have to provide proof of a license and proof of insurance. If you don't you get arrested. The judge won't even listen to your constitutional rights argument.
So, Constitution free zones. Why should they have 1st amendment rights on the interstate highways when you don't have any rights?
Nonsense. You have the right to remain silent whenever you interact with the police. However, that doesn't mean you can keep them from doing their job, which could then result in you being detained at the police station (depending on the probable cause for stopping you in the first place).
It helps no one to characterize the public roads as a "Constitution-free zone", simply because laws can (and will be) be enforced there.
I would not go so far as you although I agree that interstates are not exempt from the Constitution. It is, however, true that law enforcement officers frequently act with impunity as if the Constitution does not apply when they "do their job" and not just on the highways. You have the right to remain silent and refuse to show your identification if you don't mind being arrested, taken to the station, booked, and hope you can reach your attorney with your one allowed phone call. If you can't reach your attorney you can expect to remain in custody for up to the habeas corpus time limit, assuming of course that someone is available to file the habeas corpus on your behalf. Etc etc etc et ...
The fact that they will arrest you for exercising your constitutional rights make it a constitution free zone.
If accosted by an officer while you are not in a car on the public roads you don't have to identify yourself or tell them anything. If they arrest you then you have a case the ACLU will take all the way to the Supreme Court.
Your right to remain silent exists before the cop reads you the Miranda rights. Unless you are driving a car on public roads. Then if you try to remain silent and get arrested the ACLU will not try to help you at all.
Somehow, I doubt you can produce any Supreme Court cases holding anything suggesting the public roads are a “Constitution-free zone”.
But you still got your feelz.
The law isn't magic. Cops can and do abuse their authority. That they abuse their authority doesn't make it legal.
Binion! When is your big fat chocolate apology cake about how the riot was not?
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James Fields is currently living out your fantasy.
"On December 11, the jury recommended life in prison for the killing of Heather Heyer along with an additional 419 years for the other crimes committed: 70 years for each of five malicious wounding charges, 20 for each of three malicious wounding charges, and nine years on one charge of leaving the scene of an accident. On July 15, 2019, Fields was given a second life sentence for the murder of Heyer, with an additional 419 years for the other crimes."
Seems excessive. After all if you kill a deer with your car on the public roads you are not charged with poaching.
If it was a MAGA crowd protesting and blocking traffic near Ronald Reagan Airport would it still have been described as exercising their First Amendment rights?
No, because everyone knows the MAGA crowd has no rights.
(still looking for Biden to explain exactly why making America great is a bad thing)
Because none of the MAGA crowd has any way to make America great. America is great now and it was never NOT great so it does not need to be made great again. There have always been and there will always be people who have grievances. My grievance is that the social democrats have had their way almost unopposed for over a hundred years and after they had implemented ALL of their socialist agenda instead of stopping there, they continued pushing a new agenda beyond all sense into la-la land. It's almost as if they WANTED to trigger a reaction so they would have someone to blame for the total and abject failure of democratic socialism.
The First Amendment depends on the context, I guess.
If you had made a career out of cutting and pasting oppression research, I mean if you were a university president, you might understand this.
The recent lede Reason Roundup story by associate editor Liz Wolfe condemned the (Liberal) federal government of Canada for breaking up the ‘Freedom Convoy’ demonstrations that paralyzed the Canadian capital in 2022.
Thus, there are actually two Reason/Libertarian parties. One condemns pedestrians blocking a highway in the name of free speech, the other defends the right to seize an entire city and run diesels outside apartments.
Guess it just depends what is being protested.
She did no such thing, but nice try! Reason condemned freezing the assets of people who participated in the demonstrations without due process. Reason did not condemn breaking up the traffic jams they created by intentionally blocking the highways and streets. Also Reason condemned the draconian lock-down orders and regulations on truckers during the COVID epidemic that triggered the protests.
Civil disobedience often involves breaking the law and inconveniencing people, sometimes for long periods of time. During the civil rights movement, protesters often disobeyed the law to make a point. Significantly, they were willing to go to jail. Is blocking traffic protected by 1A? Of course not. And its wisdom as a tactic is debatable. But sometimes such steps are necessary. During the protests over the immigration law SB 1070 in Arizona, people blocked traffic, marched down the middle of the street, chained themselves to doors, blocked entrances, climbed atop construction cranes to plant banners, etc. All of this was in defiance of various laws. And people were jailed and went to court. These were brave individuals, IMHO. SB 1070 was a far greater evil than these misdemeanors.
On J6 thousands of people paraded on public property and neither harmed nor obstructed anyone. They are currently sitting in prison cells.
... quite a few of them in flagrant violation of the constitutional guarantee of a speedy trial.
Hell, some held in conditions that are in violation of human rights.
Solitary for years with no trial? Fuck that.
Beat me to it.
"sometimes such steps are necessary".. don't tell me, when you agree with their political horsesh** it's necessary, and when you don't, it's not, right? You're so principled!
Did you miss this part:
And people were jailed and went to court.
Even if we accept that civil disobedience is justified in a given case, it IS NOT protected under the 1st amendment.
"Civil disobedience often involves breaking the law and inconveniencing people, sometimes for long periods of time. During the civil rights movement, protesters often disobeyed the law to make a point. Significantly, they were willing to go to jail."
Maybe some were willing to go jail, and were non-violent, at the beginning. But when they made an illegal march led by John Lewis in Selma on March 7, 1965, on the Edmund Pettus Bridge, not only were they not willing to go to jail, but they marched at the cops and volunteers protecting the bridge, hurled bricks and bottles at them, and John Lewis delivered a fiery speech to his comrades, demanding that the federal government send troops to slaughter the local lawmen and volunteers.
And what was the "point" of the so-called civil rights movement? To found a regime of racial spoils for blacks, and to reduce Whites to slavery. See, "Funerals in America, Funerals for America."
Fucking clown world. And fuck the ACLU. And while I'm at it fuck Joe Biden. And fuck Jacob Sullum. And fuck Pritzker. And, well I'm open to suggestions...
Fuck Brandon Johnson. And fuck Toni Preckwinkle. And fuck Kim Foxx.
/just a few more suggestions.
If you're down-to-fuck that much, I'm sure you can find some reasonably priced hookers in your area. If not, you can go to Nevada. They have legal unreasonably-priced hookers.
Need to get rid of the democrats. And soon.
One last chance in November.
If we let them write the rules again, they will win.
If they didn't do it after winning the last contest, what makes you think they would do it after winning the next one?
And if they're as evil as you suggest, why would they let you win at all? Wouldn't that mean voting is already pointless?
I think Elmer is talking about more than just voting them out of office.
Elmo is always just talking.
When was the last time you heard about a quiet, inoffensive, safely ignored, non-disruptive protest?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/20/virginia-gun-rights-rally-101183
Can you explain why 1/6 was so beyond the pale?
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572
Because they broke into the US Capitol building while the presidential election was being certified in an attempt to disrupt it.
See the video linked above for just one example of the mob pounding their way through the building's doors and windows. (It also shows Ashley Babbitt crawling through the broken window as she gets shot, in case you would like to argue that she wasn't the first through the breach of a violent mob)
The anti-Brexit marches in the UK were impeccably well-mannered, actually. (The government ignored them, too, by the way.)
And the vote count said the government was acting properly. Did you have a point?
My point was to answer the specific question about the "last time you heard about a quiet, inoffensive, safely ignored, non-disruptive protest". That was the last time.
New t-shirt slogan: "Cease fire now -- like on Oct 6th"
Missing from this article is any mention of BLM or the Floyd riots. I recall a different opinion expressed here when they were blocking the streets. I remember the crying when one of those assholes blocked a driver and got shot when approaching the vehicle with a raised rifle.
Fuck the ACLU. I don't know why Binion only now chooses to recognize one of many issues with protests/riots, but believe it has something to do with Jews being center stage
That was (D)ifferent.
That was when I gave up on the LP forever. Their fucking eulogy for an antifa goon who was ventilated for carrying a gun in a threatening manner was fucking insane.
You're, of course, referring to the guy who shot Garrett Foster:
"Perry claimed self-defense and claimed that Foster had pointed his weapon at him, but eyewitnesses contradicted this account.
When Perry was interviewed by police about what happened before the shooting and how Foster held his gun, Perry said: "I believe he was going to aim it at me … I didn’t want to give him a chance to aim at me, you know.""
"Carrying a gun in a threatening manner" apparently means, "carrying a gun", to you...
The dipshit was literally on film bragging about doing it and people being pussies just before it happened. And those other witnesses were the antifa goons surrounding the car with him.
If you are brandishing guns and are stopping people on their way in a swarm you are absolutely begging for trouble. And I absolutely side with the car getting mobbed. Not the tough guy forcibly blocking their way.
Perry is on police video admitting that Foster never pointed his rifle at him. He shot him anyway.
a gun isnt even necessary - just ask Ashli Babbitt
Two friends of mine were charged with Felony Menacing because they had guns in hand, pointing down at their sides when they went outside after hearing several shots fired. There was a black man out there yelling that a rival gang had done a drive by and his gang was going to retaliate.
Yes. It was a shitty neighborhood.
They confronted the black man, guns still pointed down, and asked if he was a member of a gang. The black man admitted to being a member of one of the big name gangs of the 90s. Chips, Bloods, something like that. One of my friends told him the neighborhood didn't need the gang shit happening and to take it elsewhere so innocents wouldn't be injured. The black man ran off.
A short time latter the police arrived and arrested my friends for felony menacing because they had guns available while talking to the black man. They were charge and plea bargained down to musdemnor non gun related charges. I suspect the DA didn't want to bring in a gang member with poor English skills to testify how my 5 ft 6 in buddy had intimidated his over 6 foot tall ass.
Damikesc would probably approve.
I sure hope they keep blocking the roads.
That is guaranteed to get every citizen to be against their cause
Keep it up!
I agree. Why protest at the expense of the people you’re trying to awaken? Makes no sense. King was right to feel apprehensive of it. Even marching is pretty bad. Blocking traffic is the most selfish bratty way of protest that I question there’s ever a strong argument for.
Only the Left would ever need this explained to them. Just like boys have penises and women have vaginas.
Exactly, it's not that tough to figure out - hell even here in the people's republic of Boulder when the BLM idiots decided to block the only major road between here and Denver during rush hour a few years back I was blown away that even my lefty friends were talking about how they'd floor the gas (or whatever you call it in a Prius) and run right through the crowd...if the protesters are trying to piss people off they're doing a great job but they're certainly not swinging anybody over to their way of thinking.
A certain sector of immigrants don’t get such concepts. About social contracts, balancing of rights, etc. They also don’t understand it’s legal to insult the Pedo Prophet without getting assaulted on a public sidewalk, as happened in a protest in Dallas.
Which is why Reason should be more circumspect about open borders. People are not simply economic entities, you can plug in to any place in the globe interchangably.
If you doubt this can we look forward to Reason publising pictures of the Pedo Prophet in the Feb issue? Actually do not recommend, as a newpaper in France tried this. Seems certain immigrants didn’t like this and responded beyond verbal protesting?
Obama said he liked to get head from old white pedos.
Wouldn't blocking any official vehicle from performing its legal responsibilities - cop car, fire truck, ambulance, municipal street sweeper, public transit bus, etc. - be considered Insurrection?!
They don't have legal responsibilities to save lives. Supreme Court ruled on that a while ago.
No, it would just be interference with legal duties.
Repeating a stupidity in a different context doesn't make it any less stupid.
Can people block a road leading to an abortion clinic and call it free speech? I suspect leftist dolts would say no.
I encourage this practice. It absolutely endears everyone it affects to their cause, and encourages cool heads and rational thinking that in no way endangers the activists.
Let them block traffic. It's only a matter of time until that problem solves itself.
I remember some Easter protest at Lawrence Livermore National Lab where the protestors who blocked the entrance were promptly arrested then tried to claim they shouldn’t be punished because they had a “right to engage in civil disobedience”. Obviously not clear on the concept. Civil disobedience is used when the thing you are protesting is so important, like foreign occupation of your country, that you are willing to break the law and go to jail. The go-to-jail part is what shows how much you’re willing to sacrifice for the cause; merely breaking the law with impunity is like a child throwing a tantrum.
" Obviously not clear on the concept. Civil disobedience is used when the thing you are protesting is so important, like foreign occupation of your country, that you are willing to break the law and go to jail."
That's all true, but engaging in civil disobedience means accepting arrest and prosecution. It doesn't mean you give up the right to defend yourself in court when your case comes to trial. Typically this means arguing that the crime of trespassing fades to insignificance compared to the crime of being a party to genocide.
60 days and $1000.
Next case.
Engaging in civil disobedience doesn't mean giving up the right to defend yourself and your actions in court.
You can’t put on a frivolous defense; your argument must be related to the crime and based on reality. If you are blocking buses taking an ethnic group to the gas chambers, you might argue that you are stopping genocide. Stopping traffic here to share your opinion about a war on the other side of the planet is not.
"Stopping traffic here to share your opinion about a war on the other side of the planet is not."
There's a genocide taking place which our elites are minimizing, defending and prolonging. If judges see efforts to stop this as frivolous, that's a risk people doing the blockades are willing to take. It's relatively minor risk compared to being run over by a car, train or bulldozer.
"There’s a genocide taking place..."
As if your brain wasn't already scrambled, your hatred of Jews seems to have made it worse.
The only attempted genocide is Hamas hoping to kill every Jew.
Fuck off and die, Nazi shit.
It’s not the Jews dude – no one is racist these days save a tiny sliver of extremists. Is Jew even a real race? Who cares? The problem is genociding:
the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
That’s what they’re doing. It needs to stop. Either that or nuke em and get em all taken care of quick. This is just dragging on too long - I mean, who wants to see dismembered children on the news every day? Jesus what do you expect?
Try making sense, just once.
Sorry, no. Protesting being allowed here but not there is the first step down the slippery slope of "free speech zones", which we've seen instituted around major events so that those being protested against won't have to see those nasty protestors.
They dont have the right to restrict movement of others. They dont have the right to block roads which are paid for by the public, and for the purpose of providing movement of the public.
I feel like we need to apply the Bart/Lisa arm swinging logic here. Cars going to keep moving, if you get in the way, its your fault.
Fuck around, find out. Time to stop letting filthy commies have their tantrums, we have let it slide far too long
"Cars going to keep moving, if you get in the way, its your fault."
Tell that to the judge. With civil disobedience, those who break the law have resigned themselves to possible arrest and prosecution. I doubt those who are inconvenienced and enraged by a traffic jam are willing to spend years in prison for murder.
" I doubt those who are inconvenienced and enraged by a traffic jam are willing to spend years in prison for murder."
Some of those, and for now.
"Some of those, and for now."
So, not you personally. You want others to teach the filthy commies a lesson. It sounds like you lack the courage of your convictions, unlike those who are willing to block traffic and face the consequences.
Don't forget:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
If any of these retards tried this in my medium-sized not that blue city, in a red state, they would be very quickly moved from the roads, and I would happily be one of the folks 'helping' them find the sidewalk and seeing that they stay there. This would work for about 5 minutes where I live, and they would very quickly find out the consequences of limiting the movement of others.
But I have a pretty great life and am not insane or on the brink of murdering someone at all times. You know who is? Turns out, lots of people driving on roads in the US, hence the amount of road rage incidents where a minor argument or honk causes some guy to get out of his car and end the other person. There are lots of these people on the road.
This isn't an "if" but a "when". They will eventually stop the wrong car, and they will face the consequences.
As I said, some of them, and for now. Keep fucking around
"They will eventually stop the wrong car, and they will face the consequences. "
It's not just wrong cars they have to worry about. There's also wrong bulldozers, trains, and pipeline equipment that can and have caused injury and death to blockaders. That's the difference between a civil disobedient blockade and a garden variety demonstration.
You’ve forgotten Charlottesville?
Remind me.
OK:
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
“Spouting nonsense is an end in itself.”
I posted about it above.
James Fields decided to drive into an illegal, road-blocking protest in Charlottesville, but surprisingly only killed one person. For that he was sentenced to life in prison, plus an additional 419 years.
They also swarmed his car and some witnesses claim someone pulled a gun. Which seems a lot more plausible after having watched it happen several times on camera during the summer of love and peace.
If the victim is a minority the case takes a hard left turn into crazyville.
"someone pulled a gun. "
It's unfortunate only one person is reported to pull a gun. If the whole crowd were armed and brandishing their weapons, the driver would have probably chickened out and nobody would have been killed.
What difference does that make? If you mean someone pulled a gun on him before he raced his car into the crowd, it's odd that he never mentioned that at trial, isn't it?
"Earlier in the day, he was hit with something that could have been urine, she said. He had just left the company of people he was with earlier and felt vulnerable by himself, Lunsford said. She said he believed a group of protesters behind him was about to swarm his car, although no evidence was presented to support that.
"He thought people were after him," she said. "The difference between a joyful crowd and an angry mob lies in the beholder."
In its closing argument, the commonwealth hammered home the heart of its case, that Fields was unprovoked and acted with the intent to harm people.
Throughout the day of the rally, Fields was never harassed or assaulted, nor was he ever in any kind of peril, prosecutor Nina-Alice Antony said."
https://www.wtvr.com/2018/12/07/james-fields-found-guilty-of-all-charges-in-murder-heather-heyer-in-charlottesville
I think that needs to be the rule of thumb for this kind of crap. If you are on a public road outside of a crosswalk and without right of way then if someone hits you it's not a criminal act. If you hit a deer with your car you aren't charges with poaching. Some things just aren't supposed to be in the middle of a road with a speed limit over 50 mph. People need to be on that list. Life isn't special or precious. We have bazillions of busy breeders on this planet. If you walk into traffic don't expect special protections.
"Sorry, no..."
Not sorry, yes.
Fuck off and die, lefty shit pile.
Sevo in oestrus today.
Stuff it, troll.
Presumably you’ve protested the jailing of the J6 rioters. Yes?
Impede my freedom of travel, and you can expect a tire iron up your ass, and not in a way you'd enjoy. Clear?
Fucking brain-dead commie.
-jcr
This is why there are laws against pissing off the public, of course.
But it doesn't justify killing people.
The recent lede Reason Roundup story by associate editor Liz Wolfe condemned the (Liberal) federal government of Canada for breaking up the ‘Freedom Convoy’ demonstrations that paralyzed the Canadian capital in 2022.
Thus, there are actually two Reason/Libertarian parties. One condemns pedestrians blocking a highway in the name of free speech, the other defends the right to seize an entire city and run diesels outside apartments.
Guess it just depends what is being protested.
Somehow, I’ll bet you fantasize that the Jan 6 protest was an “insurrection”, right?
Ticketing the Canadian truckers would be ok. Denying them access to bank accounts is oppression.
This comment, of course, is completely false - the condemning was about the seizure of bank accounts not blocking traffic
From a practical standpoint, blocking traffic is a stupid idea.
Sure it will draw attention: from all the already-annoyed people who were sitting in traffic to start with.
New York and the DC Metro area are two of the most congested areas in the country. Making people late will attract few, if any, to what is already a dubious cause.
"New York and the DC Metro area are two of the most congested areas in the country. Making people late will attract few, if any, to what is already a dubious cause."
That makes NY and DC perfect targets for blocking traffic. If you believe these actions are about 'attracting' people, you've got it wrong. It's about disrupting business as usual, throwing a monkey wrench into the machinery. The article states that these are 'demonstrations,' which is also not accurate. They are direct actions and the participants are prepared to face arrest and prosecution.
Yes, they should be arrested , held in jail, and tried.
"Yes, they should be arrested , held in jail, and tried."
Sure, if that's what it takes to stop genocide, it seems a small price to pay.
Antisemite shit hoping words mean what he prefers to their actual meaning.
mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM|#
“Spouting nonsense is an end in itself.”
Antigenocide is the only characteristic you could possibly presume from his given comments. Why can’t you think?
Up yours.
The Palestinians in Gaza's years long desire to kill all the Jews is not and has never been an issue for him.
So, clearly, he's anti-SOME "genocide". Namely the one where the population has increased constantly the entire time.
It won't.
That makes it a large price to pay.
I'd generally consider it sufficient to duct-tape them to a lamppost or a guardrail for a day or two.
-jcr
The recent lede Reason Roundup story by associate editor Liz Wolfe condemned the (Liberal) federal government of Canada for breaking up the ‘Freedom Convoy’ demonstrations that paralyzed the Canadian capital in 2022.
Thus, there are actually two Reason/Libertarian parties. One condemns pedestrians blocking a highway in the name of free speech, the other defends the right to seize an entire city and run diesels outside apartments.
Guess it just depends what is being protested.
So incisive you posted it thrice, eh?
The kind of people these protestors are trying to reach don't have any place to go. They are unemployed liberal arts majors living in their parents basements. The street blockers are trying to get media coverage to reach those special losers.
Mindless, bleating sheep. Once a few of them get killed or maimed the insanity will end.
"Mindless, bleating sheep."
They are organized and committed. That gives them the edge over random road raged schlubs stuck in traffic.
They are assholes lead by antisemite shits like you.
Fuck off and die, Nazi scum.
I wonder if the guy even knows what you’re talking about. Antisemitism isn’t even a real thing, it’s a construct created by the US to guilt people for questioning Middle East policy. You don’t go around accusing japs of being anti-sino after all they did iin ww2 do u? I mean, there were more Chinese holocausted than Jews.
Seriously bro, lose the partisanry. Your myopia is embarrassing to watch.
Up yours.
Wow, that is an amazing level of rectal cranial disorder.
You're fading away into a grey box for some reason.....
construct created by the US to guilt people
Hmmm…I’ll bet you didn’t know the US wasn’t yet founded during the Crusades. Or that the Crusaders ‘practiced’ by conducting pogroms on the way to Jerusalem. A Jew or two met bad ends n Russia for centuries as well. US policy drive those as well I guess.
Curiously, almost simultaneous to this post, the lead Reason Roundup story by associate editor Liz Wolfe condemned the (Liberal) federal government of Canada for breaking up the 'Freedom Convoy' demonstrations that paralyzed the Canadian capital in 2022.
Thus, there are actually two Reason/Libertarian parties. One condemns pedestrians blocking a highway in the name of free speech, the other defends the right to seize an entire city and run diesels outside apartments.
Guess it just depends what is being protested.
"...Thus, there are actually two Reason/Libertarian parties. One condemns pedestrians blocking a highway in the name of free speech, the other defends the right to seize an entire city and run diesels outside apartments..."
Somehow, I'll bet you fantasize that the Jan 6 protest was an "insurrection".
Make it 4x...
Now in France farmers are protesting how the government screws them over with environmental regulations by blocking traffic with tractors in low gear. They move... but slowly. They block traffic, but I doubt anyone has the mass to run them over.
Remember what racial collectivist George Wallace said about protesters who lie on the road in front of his car?
"Also not in dispute: It is not their right to detain people, no matter how righteous they believe their cause to be."
Also not in dispute: It is no their right to invade another nation, kill and detain people, no matter how righteous the invader believes their cause to be." Arguably, when the invasion is based on lies, it is even less right. Having learned from the bully pulpit the opposite, some believe differently. And so a lawless president invites a lawless people.
Did that make sense to anyone?
Exactly!!!. Thank you.
And it may be worth a mention that these road blocking fools are racists.
Thanks for the photo too. It's good for us all to know what racists look like.
It used to be that the racist class was once made up mostly of right leaners. Now the majority are the far left. I guess it isn't that much of a surprise because it seems to flip political sides often. In the early 1900's much of the progressive movement were racists. Praise Woodrow types.
Free speech allows you to say it, and I support that. Just get your ass off of the freeway while I have somewhere to be.
My question is, do I, as a person being detained unlawfully, have the right to use force to extricate myself from the situation.
I mean, it *SEEMS* pretty obvious that I do -- but then the cops might not agree, and I damn sure don't want to get arrested for running over a protestor (or group of them) detaining me illegally.
Depends on the place you run the protestor over. The protestors know where the courts are on their side and where the courts are not. They chose to use the technique where the courts are on their side. They don't have the balls to block roads where the courts are not on their side.
Great article, Mike. 50 years of AI research and this spam is still hard to ferret out.
Who do you think is writing it?
A couple of guys that used to work at shoprite?