Oklahoma Bill Would Ban Sending Sexy Selfies Unless You're Married
It could also outlaw any sort of sexualized image, play, or performance, pornographic or not.

An anti-porn bill in Oklahoma is so extreme that it could even make sexting outside of a marriage a crime.
The wide-reaching bill would make merely viewing "obscene materials" a felony. It would also restrict "unlawful porn" distribution and production—with enforcement possible through both criminal prosecution and private lawsuits—and make it a misdemeanor to pose for, exhibit, or publish unlawful porn. And of course it would define these terms to include a huge array of sexually charged adult activity (far beyond what many people would consider pornography).
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It's part of a wave of conservative plans targeting a very broad definition of "porn"—First Amendment be damned—that threatens not just "hardcore pornography" but all sorts of erotic expression. Whether or not this particular bill goes anywhere, it represents a resurgent moral panic over porn (more common on the right, but present in more progressive corners too) and associated attempts to restrict it. Sometimes these attempts take the form of pressure campaigns on financial institutions that do business with sex workers or porn companies. Sometimes they involve lawsuits against porn websites or other platforms where porn is shared. A lot of them lately have focused on requiring age verification for porn sites. And sometimes, as with this Oklahoma bill, they attempt to drastically expand what is considered illegal obscenity or pornography.
Defining Unlawful porn
The measure—Oklahoma Senate Bill 1976—comes from state Sen. Dusty Deevers (R–District 32), who also put forth legislation to repeal no-fault divorce. It's slated to be formally introduced on February 5, but the text was already filed last week, giving us advance notice about how bad it is.
By and large, the First Amendment protects pornography, though there are some big exceptions. It does not protect porn that depicts people under age 18. And it does not protect "obscenity," an ill-defined category that's been the subject of many a court case. But most adult pornography is considered protected.
Decades of First Amendment law notwithstanding, Deevers' bill attempts to carve out a new category of largely prohibited content called "unlawful pornography."
His measure defines unlawful porn as "any visual depiction or individual image stored or contained in any format on any medium including, but not limited to, film, motion picture, videotape, photograph, negative, undeveloped film, slide, photographic product, reproduction of a photographic product, play, or performance" when the depiction involves basically any sort of sex act, nudity, partial nudity, or sexual fetish. Unlawful depictions include "sexual intercourse which is normal or perverted," along with oral sex, anal sex, and masturbation. Also included is any "lewd exhibition of the uncovered genitals, buttocks, or, if such person is female, the breast, for the purpose of sexual stimulation of the viewer"; any depiction of "physical restraint such as binding or fettering in the context of sexual conduct"; and the undefined category "sadomasochistic abuse."
If this were just a ban on what people call "hardcore pornography," it would still be bad. But it's not just about "hardcore pornography." The unlawful porn definition is broad enough to include all partnered or solo porn photos and videos (even the more tame stuff), and possibly even erotic drawings, strip clubs, burlesque, drag, depictions of domination, and more.
All "unlawful porn" would be off limits to produce or distribute unless it was deemed to have "serious literary, artistic, educational, political, or scientific purposes or value."
Broad Enough to Target Sexting, Social Media, and More
S.B. 1976 would not just justify lawsuits or charges against porn production companies and websites such as Pornhub. It could also reach adult models, individual performers in porn videos, and even someone who simply sent someone who is not their spouse a sexually charged photo. (The bill says it's not meant to "prevent spouses from sending images of a sexual nature to each other.")
It could lead to lawsuits and charges against performers in live shows with sexually charged antics, including strippers, drag performers, and burlesque dancers.
It could also lead to lawsuits or charges against a wide range of distribution platforms. Sure, entities like Xvidoes and OnlyFans could be found liable—or at least tested in court—if they continued allowing access to people in Oklahoma. But so could any social media platform, video app, streaming service, etc., if it fails to stop adult content.
This would incentivize platforms to either block Oklahoma users entirely or—especially if more states follow suit—to start strictly moderating even remotely adult content.
Two means of enforcement
Like Texas' "abortion bounty law," SB 1976 would be partially enforced by private lawsuits. "Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state," could bring a civil action against anyone they think has produced or distributed unlawful porn, knowingly aided and abetted its production or distribution, or intends to do so.
Those found guilty could be liable for statutory damages of $10,000 for every image or depiction, plus "injunctive relief sufficient to prevent the defendant from violating this section" and the court costs and attorney fees of the person who sued. (Meanwhile, someone who successfully defended themselves against such a lawsuit could not recover court costs and attorney fees from the person who brought it, leaving no downside to filing long-shot lawsuits and a lot of expense even for entities or people eventually exonerated.)
The proposed law would also deploy criminal enforcement. Under S.B. 1976, it would be a crime to "buy, procure, view, or possess" any "obscene materials" (yes, view).
Obscenity under Oklahoma law is defined roughly according to the test set forth in Miller v. California. It includes "any representation, performance, depiction or description of sexual conduct" that, when taken as a whole, is determined to be "patently offensive as found by the average person applying contemporary community standards," as well as designed to appeal "to prurient interest in sex" and lacking in "serious literary, artistic, educational, political, or scientific purposes or value."
One might think that this test would rule out run-of-the-mill commercial pornography or the sorts of images that many people in intimate relationships send one another. But S.B. 1976 specifically states that all of the acts defined as unlawful porn (a category that includes so much as exposing a breast or butt cheek with an intent to titillate) "are depictions of sexual conduct which are patently offensive under contemporary community standards in this state, and have as their dominant theme an appeal to prurient interest in sex."
Unless that butt selfie is deemed to be a work of serious artistic merit, it would seem to fall under Oklahoma's definition of obscene materials, which would make it a crime to even so much as look at it.
The buying/procuring/viewing/possessing offense would be a felony, punishable by up to 20 years in prison or a fine of up to $25,000. So would "distribut[ing] any unlawful pornography that lacks serious literary, artistic, educational, political, or scientific purposes or value."
The bill would also make it a misdemeanor crime to "act in, pose for, model for, print, sell, offer for sale, give away, exhibit, publish, offer to publish, or otherwise distribute, display, or exhibit" content featuring unlawful pornography. Doing so would be punishable by up to one year in county jail or by a fine of not less than $2,000.
The GOP's Porn Panic
In a sea of statehouse porn panics, this new bill stands out. While a number of states have passed or considered laws relating to pornography being seen by minors, Deevers' bill goes several steps further and is an especially egregious affront to free speech.
Now, state lawmakers introduce crazy stuff—much of which has no chance of going anywhere—all the time. So it's tempting just to dismiss this bill as one dude's personal crusade. But even if that turns out to be true, Deevers' proposal reflects a broader crusade that is getting legislators' votes.
The GOP is really obsessed with porn these days. Not long ago, we saw a wave of Republican-controlled legislatures pass resolutions declaring porn a "public health crisis." Porn age verification bills have passed in Louisiana, Texas, and North Carolina. And despite some initial court rulings against age verification laws, similar measures are gaining steam in other states, with lawmakers in Ohio and Oklahoma alike introducing them just last week. (This newsletter will certainly be keeping tabs on these.)
Some legislators have introduced bills that would ban porn on devices unless users pay a fee. And several prominent conservative activists and politicians have been trying to define a wide range of content related to sexuality and gender identity as pornographic. This has been driving library book bans, restrictions on drag performances, limits on academic freedom, and more.
And it's not just state Republicans on the porn freakout beat. Such prominent lawmakers as Sen. J.D. Vance (R–Ohio), Sen. Josh Hawley (R–Mo.), and Rep. Paul Gosar (R–Ariz.) have railed against pornography in recent years. Conservative New York Times columnist Ross Douthat has opined that we should ban it.
In 2022, an initiative called "Project 2025"—spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, with more than 50 conservative groups on the advisory board—released a manifesto on what Republicans should do if they take control of the federal government again next year. Porn "has no claim to First Amendment protection," writes Heritage President Kevin D. Roberts in the document's forward, adding that it "should be outlawed" and that the "people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned."
Whatever happens with this Oklahoma bill, I don't think it will be the last we see of such attempts to target all sorts of sexual expression.
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Oklahoma Bill Would Ban Sending Sexy Selfies Unless You're Married
WOT??? No more selfies of Liz Wolfe and her natural duck lips? Outrageous!
They can't make vat-grown beef fast enough! If this passes, it'll make me want to boycott Oklahoma! I want my "Porn as high as an elephant's eye!"
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Seems like a pretty obvious violation of the First Amendment, like California trying to restrict gun rights violated the Second.
Well, I guess Constitution Man isn't going to fly out of the Liberty Bell and kick Newsom's useless ass so why should Oklahoma worry.
I know this is going to absolutely blow some minds around here but, it turns out that the 2A doesn’t specifically apply to guns and that States, counties, parishes, and various municipalities all have their own varying regulations for everything between letter openers and butcher’s knives and anti-material rifles, sawed-off shotguns, and hand grenades, and not just their ownership or buying and selling, but manner and locations of carry or transport as well.
The idea that the fringes of speech would be infringed by any given state, county, or municipality is only wild to the one-dimensional morons for whom the 1A only applies to speech and the 2A only applies to guns.
That would matter if they cared.
Images of violence will be allowed.
Allow me to respectfully correct you. An amendment to the bill under consideration has been accepted. Under the amended bill under consideration the following activities would be prohibited:
sending nude selfies unless the sender is married (though recipient is not required to be one’s spouse); bikini photos would still be allowed; nude selfies of women who have shaved their pubic hair would be classified as “kiddie porn”, regardless of age or marital status of the “deforested” model
sending images depicting violence unless the sender is a card-carrying member of the Mafia or MS-13, and images with knives would likewise be prohibited unless the individual wielding the knife is a card-carrying member of a local butcher’s union
sending images featuring an individual taking dump, or of the resulting pile, unless the pooper was a card-carrying member of a “plumbers local”
sending images of any Oklahoma state representative or senator, without the consent of that legislator’s guardian, as the individual legislators of that state are obviously not mentally competent to give consent for photography on their own.
I’m think of moving to Oklahoma though. If the legislature can waste time debating either the original or the amended bill, there must be no real problems in that state, and things there must be damn near perfect.
Hats off to your subtle, deadpan wit! That was too funny!
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Oh, crap, from what I read at the link to X, it's going back from no-fault to for-cause divorce. Does nobody want to stop at the libertarian point off the spectrum between getting permission from the sovereign for divorce, and unilateral divorce? No-fault and gotta-have-a-reason aren't the only choices!
It's like going from slavery to termination-only-for-cause — can't see the mutual consent concept there?
Why would ending a relationship ever involve 'mutual consent'?
Would you like it if you couldn't quit your job unless the employer agreed?
Show me a no-fault divorce and I'll show you some adultery. I doubt it would make much of a difference.
OK, I got one for you that involves no adultery.
1. Woman meets man, falls in love, but is asked several times over her allergy to cat dander as man has cat in house already.
2. Woman says it's fine, and marries man anyway.
3. Woman then decides, without consulting man, to get a small dog. She then complains of allergies acting up.
4. She leaves house for her parents'. Man and woman see woman's allergist. Allergist says that woman is allergic to cat and dog dander. Turns out the dog the woman got aggravated her allergies more than the cat.
5. Woman is then pissed because allergist told her why her allergies were acting up.
6. Woman then calls man wanting to just talk. She lied and then went and took her stuff back to her parents'.
7. Man has had enough and files for divorce. No adultery needed.
That's a very specific story.
My divorce. Ex was clinically diagnosed with BPD.
That sucks. I'm sorry.
NP! We're on very friendly terms.
It could have been worse - we could have remained married for much longer!
I don't think there's much chance of a state's going any time soon back from no-fault to required-cause divorce, but it shows their stupid polarized thinking that we can only have the bad old days as a substitute for the bad current days. I guess the good side of this is showing that people have concerns about the injustice of no-fault divorce, but maybe they're the wrong concerns: the idea that there are too many divorces, that divorce is "too easy", that "it's against the god who married them". Then again, with same-sex marriage making marriage less meaningful legally or socially, maybe we're not ready to take marriage seriously again yet.
Reinstituting required cause for divorces reminds me of the Woody Allen recorded bit: "The lord said thou shalt not commit adultery, but the state of New York says ya gotta."
it’s going back from no-fault to for-cause divorce. Does nobody want to stop at the libertarian point off the spectrum between getting permission from the sovereign for divorce, and unilateral divorce? No-fault and gotta-have-a-reason aren’t the only choices!
I don't see what's not libertarian about "you made a contract for life, you are obligated to abide by the terms of it and can terminate it only for cause."
Those pesky inalienable rights sort of get in the way of binding yourself in perpetuity.
Especially since the *government* marriage contract is not the same contract as the religious/social one.
Those pesky inalienable rights sort of get in the way of binding yourself in perpetuity.
There are plenty of lifelong contracts and obligations people enter into; there is no contradiction to libertarianism there.
Especially since the *government* marriage contract is not the same contract as the religious/social one.
The government isn’t forcing you to enter this contract. It is a contract between two private parties that happens to be enforced by the government, like most other contracts. The only thing that is different about this contract is that it is standardized. If you don’t like the terms of the contract, don’t enter it.
It is a "contract" between private parties that is written by the government, and may be and has often been changed by the government without permission of the individuals affected.
thank christ you're not the person in charge of whether or not a person has to be forcibly tied to another for the rest of their life then.
Easy, just have the early termination penalties spelled out in advance.
Anything other than 'no-fault' is asking the government for permission though.
You want to have a marriage with benefits from the government? Then you're going to play by the government's rules.
But nothing has ever stopped you from creating your own family contracts.
Anything other than ‘no-fault’ is asking the government for permission though.
That is true for the termination of any private contract: the governmental legal system adjudicates whether you can terminate the contract and what the penalties are.
You ask permission to get married, you have to get a license. Why wouldn't you need to ask permission to dissolve the contract since government was a party to the original contract?
No government should be involved in any religious events.
I'm a criminal sexting mme. dillinger in our multi-decade committed non-marriage?
It's ENB, she would show you an empty placenta and an empty gas chamber and say "See, no bodies!" with equal disdain for truth or human life, right before she turned around and said, "You see that baby shaped image on the ultrasound? Conspiracy. Ultrasounds detect electricity." like the most vile, retarded flat earther that she wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
Why, akin to the NYT, would you believe her even at the assertion of the date of the article's publishing?
blinded by my shame at recognizing some of those Penthouse covers
Penthouse covers? See 4th image from the left, bottom row... His tattoos are covering her tittoos!!! Tatts or tits? I consider tatts FAR more obscene than tits! Get your tatts OUT of my way, so that I can see some tits!!!
These damned blue-noses and their bi-assed, stupid prejudices... Can ANYONE rationally (in a data-driven, unbiased manner) prove that my anti-tattoo offendedness is ANY less valid than YOUR anti-tit bias?!?! NOOOO.... Butt does ANYONE give a shit!?!? NOOOOO...
is that the Maroon5 guy why does he get a cover?
I thought it was whichever Kardashian person and Travis Barker or equivalent rock drummer were married or had a kid together or whatever.
either, or lol
The worst cover is bottom right. Looks like some lady is slurping up some kind of green puke?
Giving head to the Green Swamp Monster? IDK...
The worst cover is ENB trying to impugn relatively normal people and humdrum lawmaking on behalf of MAPs/pedophiles.
smooching a bud?
You're right! Brown hair in the green leaves does give it away...
The forum/letters section is still okay, right?
I can attest some of it did in fact happen.
And, sure enough, ENB says:
But the bill *actually says* (ctrl+f "any visual": 2 results):
So, as long as neither you nor mme. dillinger is (doing more work than ENB bothers with by Googling Age of consent in OK) under the age of 16 or under the age of 18 but not separated by more than 2 yrs., there's no issue.
Well, no issue other than ENB's trying to make you both mentally retarded to suit her own political ends.
I fight it by barely reading past the header
An anti-porn bill in Oklahoma is so extreme that it could even make sexting outside of a marriage a crime.
Alas, all my fucks have been exhausted in the endless "Not forcing 1st graders to read Gender Queer as part of the curriculum is the destruction of the 1A." carpet bombing campaign of retardation.
Go cram it up your ass sideways, chicken little.
Careful, whipping that strawman in public could be mistaken for "sadomasochism abuse". Don't want to be an Oklahoman porn-outlaw, do you?
Not having ever lived in Oklahoma, being an every-law-in-Oklahoma, porn included, Outlaw is kinda what I do.
if you're outside more than three minutes red dirt gets on and in everything.
I'm willing to bet kmw
1 didn't read the bill
2. Is lying about it based on talking points
1 didn’t read the bill
It's possibly the most wrong, retarded take possible. The definitions in the proposed legislation are lifted whole cloth from existing law with the one correction being the removal of the exception that ENB highlights as being maintained.
Normally, this sort of thing wouldn't just be critically insulting to ENB but also to whatever editor and/or legal reviewer was paying attention to and interpreting the bill. But this is Reason and ENB, she read a long-form "$500M divided by every American is $1M each" tweet from another news site and long-form retweeted it.
Would this bill include sending photos of Gender Queer and This Book Is Gay?
this is a bill, introduced by a lone note job as a performative act, and it has little or no chance of ever passing. Tons of bills like this (lost cause but trying to make a statement) get introduced at every state legislature frequently. There are so many, and they are wide ranging on everything from porn, to guns, to soda labels, to glue traps.
There's no reason to even pay attention to this nonsense unless your #1 hobby horse is porn and tranny stuff.
That's right.
When some nobody on the Right says or does something outrageous, then it's an outlier and we should ignore it.
When some nobody on the Left says or does something outrageous, then we should all be very concerned because it's a harbinger of things to come.
Pretty much spot on.
It’s ridiculous that I even have to think about taking this article with a helping heaping of salt, but that the state of pretty much all journalisming these days.
I will say fuck the republicans on this, because even if the article is more outrage porn than actual reporting of the law, there’s about a million other things the governments of the states should be worrying about that isn’t fucking porn. If they should be worrying about making new laws at all (not convinced we really need more laws on the books).
Like murdering babies?
>The wide-reaching bill would make merely viewing "obscene materials" a felony.
You know what's funny - no one here at Reason was complaining that hard when the Blue states started ignoring settled law by the USSC and kept making gun bans over and over again.
Now that a Red state is going after pornography - using the same tactic - its 'Republicans pounce' all over again.
Secular hedonists like ENB don't give a shit about guns. Those are for those cousin kissers.
You'll have to excuse her while she's at some bleeding edge orgy.
I mean, I'd expect ENB to be all for cousin fucking. Possibly for money. After all, if there are results, it can just be aborted.
Actually, there were more than a few articles even here at Reason complaining just as hard when the Blue states passed their gun bans in defiance of Bruen.
Granted, I didn't see any with ENB's byline but Reason does have other authors.
Bullshit. Reason is not as terrible as MSM source, but that’s a low bar.
Pritzker banned assault weapons in IL by grandfathering in the existing weapons onto a de facto registry... on top of the FOID registry. The law was upheld in SCOIL by two judges that refused to recuse themselves after they received donations from the Prizkers. Everything is pretty much in limbo now because upper estimates of compliance (thanks to both the gun registry, the FOID registry, and the Federal 4473 data) are in the mid-single-digit range and it’s not clear as to whether the state can even enforce it as the majority of county sheriffs have refused to uphold the law and it’s a slow walking of the war on drugs where, until SCOTUS does something… if SCOTUS does something… “people” will continue to be brought up on weapons charges while being “armed in public” or “minding their own business while armed”.
Reason has published precisely one article on the topic and it’s by Jacob “Hunter Biden and Alec Baldwin are both innocent victims (+5 more articles on the same topic)” Sullum. Volokh has published more pieces on the issue than Reason.
Further, Reason is not just topically retarded, but functionally as well, they’re always talking about how the FedGov could never regulate a product or group of products within or across state lines, like porn or abortion, by requiring everyone involved to present a passport or pass a screening blissfully unaware that it happens every. fucking. day. for a no-shit Constitutionally-delineated “shall not be infringed” right. To say nothing of their longstanding “Borders are just a figment of imagination” until it comes time to discuss RTKBA in Mexico or Kyle Rittenhouse’s right even to be on the streets of Kenosha, and then the right-leaning gun owners can just suck eggs when it comes to their free association rights.
"Reason has published precisely one article on the topic"
You are such a liar.
https://reason.com/search/gun+rights?date_start=2023-10-24
Reason is very good on gun rights.
Easy decoder ring: if something infringes on corporate freedom, Reason will pounce.
The bible thumping, tyrannical Puritans are at it again, I see.
May I recommend for you "The Song of Solomon"?
The rape of Tamar? 2 Samuel 13
You may recommend it, but I won't partake. I don't include references to goats or rape in my favorite erotic reading.
Now do California.
Oklahoma Bill Would Ban Sending Sexy Selfies Unless You're Married
JFC, this is practically directly the "Wet roads cause rain" interpretation.
Current law essentially says someone over the age of 18 can marry someone as young as 16 and existing law allows for a marriage exception to possession/distribution of pornography. The new law actually explicitly removes the exception. The rest is lifted, whole cloth from existing legislation.
The title, if accurate, would read:
Oklahoma Bill Would Ban Distributing Sexy Selfies Of Married Minor Partners
As I was saying earlier.
To many people on the Right, liberty is not a birthright of every living person, but instead only bestowed upon those who are morally worthy. A libertarian would view pornography as an exercise of the universal freedom of expression. A right-winger, on the other hand, would view pornography as a *violation* of liberty because it is immoral. There is no liberty to do immoral things.
There is no liberty to do immoral things.
Like not wearing masks?
Old enough to remember when you had to go to a porn shop if you wanted to see porn, and ask for the playboy/penthouse behind the counter to see boobs and bush.
I don’t think porn should be banned, but what you can find for free these days with just one click is concerning, as I have learned from my 11 year old son.
If you're old enough to remember asking for magazines behind the counter, then you're also old enough to remember that you really got it by finding dad's stash or borrowing from the kid down the street. Or if your tastes ran more to soft-core, the lingerie section of the Sears catalog. Bottom line, it was just as easy to find free stuff at 11 then as it is now.
Don't forget National Geographic.
Ah yes, my mom wondered why the lingerie section pages of the Sears catalog were always stuck together.
Apparently the guy's real name is Dusty. He's a pastor. And a dipfuck. His parents are retards.
Why is violence not also considered obscene? Network tv shows, movies and social media routinely show violent images. The Bible could be censored for both sex and violence.
America has a violence problem based on real crime statistics but these Puritans are focusing on censoring nudity and sex.
Interesting that Europe has much lighter censorship on nudity and sex (public artwork, etc), but has a lower rate of rape and sexual violence. America makes it taboo and we have more sexual violence.
Regardless, the First Amendment will overturn most forms of ridiculous censorship.
Interesting that Europe has much lighter censorship on nudity and sex (public artwork, etc), but has a lower rate of rape and sexual violence. America makes it taboo and we have more sexual violence.
That is b.s. Rape and violent crime in Europe are all over the place, with countries like Sweden having twice the rate of rapes per 100000 compared to the US.
But the "much lighter censorship on nudity and sex" is likely responsible for the disastrous demographic developments in Europe: Europeans are not having any kids anymore.
Furthermore, in the US, rape and violent crime are highly dependent on location and demographic. If you are a married couple living in the suburbs, you are safer in the US than in Europe.
A post like that under the name COINTELPRO, I assumed it was joke. The claim is as absurd as the claim that because Cuba's infant death rate is lower, their healthcare is superior (even though they coercively abort children that would be born relatively typically in the US).
Even just out of the gate, the whole idea is rather absurd along similar lines, fewer than half of US states generally define rape as Consent-based, meaning if a woman doesn't say "No" it doesn't constitute a rape, while the more than other half generally define rape as Coercion-based, bruising and trauma evidence rape regardless of consent. Moreover, these are just the two general guidance, not every state clearly falls into these bins and there's varying shades of issues WRT, e.g., penetration that fudge the lines as well. The idea that all of Europe has one, single definition of rape is as retarded as if there were one, single US definition.
Even if you did just assume, the US isn't a monolith when it comes to sex work either. When you look at places like Australia and New Zealand or even European countries where sex work regulation is "Just not in public" or "In designated areas, and compare it to the differences between Montana, Nevada, New York, Illinois, etc. the idea that "Legalized sex work produces fewer rapes/lower frequency of rape in the population." is utter horseshit. NZ has an effective "Just not in public" stance on prostitution and their rape statistics are on par or higher than several US States, even of similar population or density, with "No buy, no sell, not anywhere." restrictions on sex work.
But the “much lighter censorship on nudity and sex” is likely responsible for the disastrous demographic developments in Europe: Europeans are not having any kids anymore.
And where is the evidence for pornography and low fertility or fecundity, any more than evidence for a correlation between pornography and violence or absence of pornography and violence?
And just where does a Gay man get off--pardon the pun--telling Straight people that they need to begat more young?
You truly are rich, NOYB2.
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I suggest you look at the literature about the links between pornography and reproduction.
I’m not telling straight people to do anything. It is simply a fact that European demographics are disastrous according to politicians and economists. I’m just pointing it out. I think Europeans deserve to suffer the consequences of their choices, so I don’t have a problem with it. It is irreversible at this point anyway.
The First Amendment should, but I'm not confident that this conservative supreme court will.
While there are too many variables involved in violent behavior to say exactly what brings it about in all the many forms of violence, pornography is definitely neither necessary nor sufficient for violent behavior.
You are correct that The Holy Bible is indeed a Grim Fairy Tale as are other "holy" books, and that censorship is never a proper answer to questionable and bad ideas under the First Amendment.
Is Oklahoma Bill related to Buffalo Bill?
Yes. As Buffalo Bill would say:
"It rubs the porn upon it's brain,
And then free expression goes down the drain."
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And here is the right, behaving like the left. Another reason not to live there. As if we needed another.
Dusty Deevers sounds like a porn star name to me. I really hate private right of action. The state having these powers is bad enough without granting individuals without injury the right to sue.
And IIRC the SC has made it difficult to challenge such laws as unconstitutional owing to issues of standing and actual injury. You don't want to have to wait to be sued and fined for something that is unconstitutional before you can protest - and part of the intent of such pernicious laws is to make it difficult.
Whether or not this particular bill goes anywhere, it represents a resurgent moral panic over porn (more common on the right, but present in more progressive corners too) and associated attempts to restrict it
Handy guide:
Libertarian position: "Pornography and drugs are bad for you, but feel free to screw up your life anyway you like as long as you pay for it."
Socialist/progressive position: "Because pornography and drugs are harmless, the government shouldn't restrict them, and only stupid/icky/panicked conservatives think they are bad."
Progs are anti-drug too so long as that drug is nicotine, and soon they will be anti-weed because enough people actually enjoy it.
There are lots of progs who hate porn every bit as much as conservatives but are afraid they will offend gay/trans porn consumers and pro-porn feminists if they say anything bad about it.
Speak for yourself, Stepford Boy.
Where is your evidence that pornography is bad any more than anything else used improperly or other than as part of a rational, balanced life?
For some reason, volunteers to join the state police responsible for investigating violations of the new ban have gone up significantly.
We won't be able to depend on this new conservative supreme court to stop it either. They'll probably say it's a state issue. Im not even certain they'd stop a federal law either. Most of them (Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Barret....) probably agree with The Heritage Foundation that porn is not protected. Were going to lose a lot of freedoms to this court.
Sure, such a law is a violation of the First Amendment. But do I really care? It's a, forgive the pun, back door method of keeping the trannies for tykes out of the libraries and schools. Do those wackos have some kind of first amendment right to be freaks and wave their asses in front of kids? Sure. But again, do I care? I'm sick of the gods damned left shoving their fake boobs around. They've had their time in the sun. But as a wise man once said, you're fifteen minutes are up. If they can't keep their fake boobs and camel toe panties behind closed doors and away from kids then fuck them. Pass state laws. Why not. State laws are being passed banning guns, allowing abortions to the 30th trimester and all sorts of shit I don't like so fuck them. Let the red states play the same game.
Fine, if you don't care if States violate Individual Rights as much as the U.S. Federal Government or as much as the governments of Communist or Islamist slave pens, then get back to your Bizarro World and forget you ever heard the term Libertarianism!
I see why you have your handle. Consonants require the mouth to close and when bunched together without Vowels, they make nonsense words and requiire minds to be closed to communication. This is obviously something you demand for all around you, whether they are children or adults.
Well, on this side of reality, merely wishing others to be quiet and submit to tyranny won't make it so!
Fuck Off, Comic Book Villlian!
Well, aren't you an exiteable boy.
Ten years ago I would have fought against this kind of thing. On a pure constitutional sense it's wrong. Now, I don't give a shit about the rights of freaks. You want to cross dress and play peekaboo with kiddies? Do it in states that like perverts like California or New York. They get to pass all sorts of pro pervert laws like mandating the use of made up pronouns. That's a violation of the First Amendment, but the freaks don't seem to care when it benefits them. So why not have states where freaks aren't welcome?
I fought against gay marriage. Legalizing sodomy is actually wrong. If someone wants to be aroused by nudity is not wrong.
Are you that scared that someone wants to put their cock in your ass?
No. I don't think we should be having to explain to kids why people even do that.
Sex is nature. Easily explained. My parents did. And I saw porn.
Perfectly normal.
You sound a lot like someone who isn't perfectly normal...
How can they possibly think this could ever be found constitutional? It would be struck down very fast if it were to pass, which it won't. People promoting this are just playing into the hands of opponents who will characterize them as wanting a "Handmaid's Tale" society. (Although perhaps they would try to ban that series too. Or even the book it's based on.)
That's because the anti-porn Zealots do want a Handmaid's Tale society, not to mention a George Orwell's 1984, society, a Yevgeny Zamyatin's We society, a Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose society, and an Ayn Rand's Anthem society....and the Zealots would ban all of those if they could.
What an amazing regurgitation of pro pervert talking points.
There are plenty of states where you can abort up to the 30th trimester, dress in drag and wave your fake titties in front of grade school kids and practice all kinds of twisted fetishes on a public street. Move there.
Yet sodomy remains legal.
And your point?
Much healthier for kids to see hetero nudity than how gay marriage is consummated.
Seriously? Porn is half an industrial film wrapped in fur and half bad acting by has beens and never wills. If you want your kids to watch it then go ahead.
I read this article - and its comments - twice, and somehow I still missed any argument articulating the redeeming traits of pornography on a personal, family, social, cultural, or national level.
There is no moral defense. There is a Nunya defense. It's Nunya fucking business if someone looks at dirty pictures of consenting adults doing things that your morals say ought to be done in private and without a camera... and a sound crew... and several fluffers.
However, I think the pro porn perverts have gone way to damn far. They've got entire states where they hold sway and insee mo problem with a state going in the other direction. Let Oklahoma perverts move to California where they are welcomed with open arms.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: If MAPs and/or tranny drag shows were some cult on a reservation out in Utah or Idaho or a one-week celebration in the middle of the Nevada desert somewhere, nobody would really care. The issue is that it’s being pushed into classes, kids’ sports, libraries, and mainstream movies across state lines by schools and corporations against parents’ wishes, North, West, East, and South. Even further, not just “pushed” in the “You must allow…” sense but in the “You must support and provide for…” sense. And the leviathan is mindless with regard to any past laws passed, decisions made, mores or compromises accepted on its positions one way or the other. Women shouldn’t be encouraged to strip for frat boys on campus property? Fuck you! What is a woman? Slap the naked "women" across the face, toss them out, and let the drag shows commence!
It doesn’t matter if OK’s free speech laws are settled and on the books not infringing on the 1A and any proposed legislation is in letter, spirit, or both, referring rather directly to child porn or porn that invades people’s privacy. The leviathan neither knows nor cares. All it knows is that opposition cannot be tolerated so long as the opposition has the ability to merely tolerate its positions and/or relegate them to the “safe, rare, and legal” corners of flyover country, like OK.
Same as when oBama legalized sodomy.
"This bill is useless without pictures (of all the illegal acts, for demonstration purposes, of course)."
Unbelievable. Other states are doing this too. Those are forcing age verification to be the responsibility of the site. Very costly.
What we have here is a real issue. Where were these idiots when the oBama regime legalized sodomy?
And just because someone enjoys nudity in image or movies does not make them a pervert. It makes them healthy. Ever noticed how the images are not of fat ugly lazy people?
Does this mean that Marjorie Traitor Greene can be arrested for sharing Hunter Biden's cock on CSpan?
Do you find Hunter Biden sexy?
Oklahoma Bill Would Ban Sending Sexy Selfies Unless You're Married
Also, if you're ugly or obese, your selfies won't be sexy, so you'd be safe too.