Brickbat: Taking Their Word for It

Canadian officials said that, on second thought, they aren't going to block Maria Kartasheva from becoming a citizen. Just before she was due to take her oath of citizenship, an official informed her she'd been tried in absentia in Russia, her home country, and found guilty of "public dissemination of deliberately false information about the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" for social media posts she made while living in Canada opposing the Russian invasion of Ukraine. According to a letter she later received from the Canadian government, that crime "would equate to false information under subsection 372(1) of the Criminal Code of Canada," and Canadian law says those charged with an offense that would be a crime in Canada may be denied citizenship. But after several media outlets picked up Kartsheva's story, the government said it would allow her to become a citizen.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Kanuckistani authorities wanted so bad to honor sedition laws but luckily for her Russia's fall from favor overrode that drive.

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[Adans smith]

Canada, we have a law for that.

[mad.casual]

Canada, we have a law for that.

US (and Reason), we do too, we just ignore it when it's the bad kind of Russians posting the wrong messages to social media.

[Vernon Depner]

Left Authoritarian Dictators need to stick together.

[Michael P]

This is wrong:

an official informed her she'd been tried in absentia in Russia

From https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/russian-woman-pulled-from-citizenship-ceremony-for-antiwar-stance-becomes-canadian-1.6719098 (also mentioned in the first Volokh Conspiracy post about this):

Kartasheva notified Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada about the charges, and the department's records show she uploaded translated Russian court documents last May. Days later the department gave her an invitation to her citizenship ceremony, which was to be virtual.

On June 7, 2023, she logged into the ceremony alongside her husband. In the pre-interview that takes place before someone is allowed into the ceremony room, they were asked if anyone had been criminally charged, as part of a list of standard questions.

When she explained what had happened, an official would not let her proceed with the ceremony.

[Brandybuck]

But that doesn't make as dramatic a headline.

[Ben of Houston]

If that's an accurate description, I can't fault the guy for saying "we have 15 minutes until the ceremony. I have no way of verifying any of this, and if you are lying and were actually guilty of espionage, I'll get in trouble, so we will hold your citizenship until we've processed everything".

However, the follow-up letter confirming the denial is also in the article you linked. And that is accurately described in the Reason article, and since it's not a rushed decision, none of my concerns apply. Therefore, that is by far the more important part of the story.

There's a difference between giving a short form by omitting irrelevant details and the issues that they constantly have in death penalty cases, where they omit so much that it turns into a lie.

[Jerry B.]

It's nice to know that there's a government that's (sometimes) dumber than ours.

[Brandybuck]

"Here, hold my Molsen"

[Longtobefree]

Canada, a nation of laws, unless it's not.

That would never happen here.

[ducksalad]

Where do you live?

[Longtobefree]

It is easy to find.
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[mad.casual]

Retard fight!

In the one corner, Reason Magazine!: LOL! Canada – Quebec police are warning residents not to post home security video of porch pirates to the Internet, saying it could violate the thieves’ right to privacy.

And in the other corner, also Reason Magazine!: LOL! Utah – The law, The Utah Social Media Regulation Act, was passed last March and aims to restrict minors’ access to social media and the kind of content they can encounter once online. The law will require all social media users to verify their age through privacy-invading methods such as a facial scan, uploading their driver’s license, or giving the last four digits of their social security number.

And in the *other* corner, also Reason Magazine!: LOL! Canada – Just before she was due to take her oath of citizenship, an official informed her she’d been tried in absentia in Russia, her home country, and found guilty of “public dissemination of deliberately false information about the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation” for social media posts she made while living in Canada opposing the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

[Mills Lane Voice] Let’s get it on! [/Mills Lane Voice]

NB: Remember that through Reason’s “BORDURZ R JUST IMAJINASHUN!” idiocy people repeatedly pointed out that Reason was all in on the “RUSSIAN COLL-U-ZHUN!” narrative as well.

[mad.casual]

Remember the good old days when Shikha would write back-to-back-to-back articles saying A) The US should adopt Canada's immigration policies, B) Canada's immigration policies were too strict, and C) because US immigration policy was so terrible and everyone in America is so vociferously racist and xenophobic she'd make her white husband drive her across the border when the went *into* Canada?

Good times.

[Rubbish!]

Lucky her speech aligned with the current Canadian government's preferences. Otherwise, she was out on her ass, ya hoser.

[Dillinger]

forever reeling. because Kyle's mom blamed them.

[MWAocdoc]

Left unexplained by this article is why anyone would WANT to become a Canadian citizen. Jumping out of the Russian frying pan into the Canadien fire?