Demonic Dollar Store

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"Does this economic system produce a lot of Dollar Stores?" On Glenn Greenwald's System Update Rumble show, former Fox News star Tucker Carlson issued a scathing indictment of what he calls "libertarian economics" over the weekend.

"Libertarian economics was a scam perpetrated by the beneficiaries of the economic system that they were defending," Carlson told Greenwald.

"So they created this whole intellectual framework to justify the private equity culture that's hollowed out the country," said Carlson. "A smarter way to assess an economic system is by its results."

"I think you need to ask: 'Does this economic system produce a lot of Dollar Stores?'" said Carlson. "And if it does, it's not a system that you want, because it degrades people and it makes their lives worse and it increases exponentially the amount of ugliness in your society. And anything that increases ugliness is evil….So if it's such a good system, why do we have all these Dollar Stores?"

Carlson is indicting not just cheaply, readily available consumer goods, but also something deeper, he claimed.

"And the Dollar Store itself is a sort of symbol…for your total lack of control over where you live, and over the imposition of aggressively in-your-face ugly structures that send one message to you, which is, 'You mean nothing. You are a consumer, not a human being or a citizen.'"

On so many counts, Carlson is wrong. Life in the U.S. has gotten better since 1969, when he was born, in clear and measurable ways—life expectancy, child mortality rates, average income per person, liberal democratic scores of countries around the world, and much more. The "lack of control over where you live" is a total fable—though housing supply crunch is real (and government-created). If he's describing a sense that something is wrong within the American spirit, he should come right out and say so, but I'd expect the causes of these maladies—deaths of despair trending upward, for example, or American males falling behind their female counterparts on educational achievement—are deeper than "cheaply available consumer goods have proliferated."

Accidental hostage killing: On Friday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) admitted to accidentally killing three Israeli hostages who had been taken by Hamas.

Three men—Yotam Haim and Alon Shamriz, both of Kibbutz Kfar Aza, and Samer Talalka, of Kibbutz Nir Am—"had emerged shirtless from a building and were carrying a makeshift white flag," in Shejaiye, an area of Gaza City where Israel and Hamas forces had been fighting, per The New York Times. They had reportedly taken off their shirts to make clear that they were unarmed and not wearing any explosives and were approaching IDF soldiers, speaking in Hebrew.

The Israeli military said in a statement that its "soldiers were on high alert for attempts by Hamas to ambush Israeli forces, possibly in civilian clothes, as they patrolled the area," per a Times account.

Herzi Halevi, the Israeli military's chief of staff, said that IDF policy is to arrest people who lay down their weapons, not shoot, and that so far more than a thousand people have been taken into military custody this way. "It is forbidden to shoot at those who raise a white flag and seek to surrender," said Halevi. Nonetheless, Israeli soldiers made a profound mistake, which is being criticized by both Israelis and the rest of the world.

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Scenes from New York: New York City recently passed a law banning size and height discrimination when hiring dancers, which follows in the footsteps of similar legislation passed by San Francisco and Washington, D.C.

"The law includes an exemption for when height or weight may interfere with the essential requirements of a job," reported The New York Times. "But what are 'essential requirements' in the highly subjective world of dance?"

To put an even more cynical gloss on it: It seems highly unlikely that the government meddling in this way will make a difference, even sidestepping the question of whether this is an appropriate thing for policy makers to be spending time on.

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Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Does this economic system produce a lot of Dollar Stores?"

With inflation they're more like Five & Dimes.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Am I right, people?

[Don't look at me!]

Bring back woolworths!

[Longtobefree]

And watch PETA heads explode at the goldfish in plastic baggies!

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Petsmart does that currently so you can take them home.

[Idaho-Bob]

Petsmart does that currently so you can take them home

Those are feeder fish.
AKA "Cichlid food"

[R Mac]

I miss my Jack Dempsey.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Certainly bring back throwing out quarrelly, fighting riff-raff.

Oh Brother Where Art Thou--Woolworth
https://youtu.be/JaW0M6V85j8?si=DOc_HHiT3kNd2frZ

[Medulla Oblongata]

Muh hair!

[TheReEncogitationer]

I could be mistaken, buy i might be a different company with the same name.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Sorry. Wrong thread. But while I'm here.

"We hear you pay folks good money to sing into a can."
🙂
😉

[Fats of Fury]

Woolworth is still operating in Australia.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Can aboriginies sit at the lunch counter?

[TheReEncogitationer]

I could be mistaken, but it might be a different company with the same name.

[defaultdotxbe]

Dollar Tree became $1.25 Tree two years ago, and now have Family Dollar-style pricing (with items at 2, 3, and 5 dollars)

[Ben of Houston]

Yes. They've been effectively replaced by Five-Below as the place to get half-decent stuff for dirt cheap.

[TheReEncogitationer]

"...So if it's such a good system, why do we have all these Dollar Stores?"

Oh, look at Mister Man of Unlimited Means here!

Tucker's probably one of these dumb assholes who wants to abolish the Penny because handling them is inconvenient, even though doing so would raise all prices by 4 Cents!

[Randy Sax]

Most cash only businesses I know round prices to the dollar or 50 cents anyway. Tax included. Cheap bars, food stands, etc. No one wants to deal with pennies. I bet if the penny where gone Wal-Mart would round down the 4 cents in the customers favor if paying in cash. That way their business also saves time and money not having to deal with pennies.

[Randy Sax]

Can't edit.

To be clear what I'm saying is that when at the register, if you are paying cash the Total price is rounded down to the nearest 5 cent denomination. Prices of individual items don't change.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

The edit function has bee broken for the better part of a week now. I guess Fiona hasn't gotten Koch's migrants around to fixing it yet.

[TheReEncogitationer]

I know. I hate the Edit button is broken too.

To address what you're saying, givrn the pressures of inflation, I doubt anyone would bring prices down, especially jf it meant reprogramming cash registers.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Not mention re-designing inventory; accounting; advertising and marketing in signage, print, broadcast, and cyber-media, etc.

[Mother's Lament]

Liz was misrepresenting Tucker's argument a little. He was saying that families who used to be able to afford higher quality products are now limited to Dollar store fair. That the number of people having to depend solely on Dollar stores for groceries and necessities is a symptom of the problem. Not that Dollar stores are the problem and need to be abolished.

And I think Tucker is right here. An increase in people having to rely on Dollar Stores to make ends meet, is a symptom of a major problem.

[JesseAz]

Meanwhile there is a large portion of libertarians who do ignore corporate state collusion with arguments of private companies.

[Nelson]

What's your solution?

[JesseAz]

Solution to what?

End government welfare at all points and let individuals choose what to support and who to support. This is individual and corporate.

Markets require failures. Subsidizing failure doesn't help anyone accept the politically useful.

[Nelson]

"Markets require failures"

I agree 100%. And picking individual companies to support (or undermine) needs.to stop as well.

"Subsidizing failure doesn’t help anyone accept the politically useful"

Absolutely. The way to figure out which companies will succeed is to let them compete, not decide who you want to win (or lose) and try to help (or hurt) them.

Capitalism requires regulation to prevent fraud and protect consumers from unscrupulous behavior, but the lightest possible hand should be used.

Putting a thumb (or a whole hand) on the scale is guaranteed to prevent the best companies from thriving. Everyone loses when that happens.

[JesseAz]

So you agree yet asked my solution to ignoring corporate state collusion? How about not ignore it.

[Nelson]

I wasn't asking about the ignoring part. I was asking about what solutions you thought would work to address the problem. And I agree with your solutions.

[soldiermedic76]

It doesn't require regulations, laws against fraud would suffice. Regulations tend to end up punishing everyone for what a few people do and don't actually solve anything.

[Nelson]

"don’t actually solve anything."

That's an extreme absolutist position about regulation. There are good regulatory requirements that do address actual concerns, especially regarding consumer protection.

Allowing companies to only tell you what they want about their products with no way for consumers to learn more is often a bad idea. Allowing companies to use lead in comestibles or children's toys, for example, is a completely valid issue for regulations to address.

"It doesn’t require regulations, laws against fraud would suffice."

See my example above. They would not.

No regulations is a terrible idea.

[DesigNate]

Reduce the size, scope, and power of the federal government such that your everyday citizen isn't in violation of a dozen laws and statutes every time they try to start/run a business?

Eliminate the completely immoral income tax?

[Nelson]

"Reduce the size, scope, and power of the federal government"

Agreed!

"Eliminate the completely immoral income tax?"

Putting aside the weird moral condemnation, how would you fund the federal government in a way that didn't put more financial burden on the middle class? Replacing a progressive tax with something regressive, like a national sales tax, would push the tax burden down onto the middle class and working poor. So what would replace an income tax?

[Nelson]

No answer? If not an income tax, what?

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

Get rid of the democrats, and their RINO collaborators, for starters.

[BYODB]

That major problem being inflation, although it doesn't sound like Tuck is talking about inflation since he refers to 'this economic system' which has little to do with profligate government spending.

I wouldn't be shocked if he was misconstrued, but the quotes above don't seem to be talking about the real causes of currency devaluation unless he's implying we should go back to the gold or silver standard and he's calling that a different economic system for some reason.

[Mother's Lament]

He wasn't, because while inflation is a major problem, it's not the only major problem. He was talking more about overregulation.

[MoreFreedom]

I disagree, because Dollar Stores sell the same things you can get at Walmart or many other stores, while most sell at a discount. Their quality is equivalent. And they are more convenient than dealing with Walmart's lines at the cashiers.

You're showing your evaluation of their products, i.e., not "higher quality" and projecting your judgement on people who shop there. Who should judge them, when they have many customers happy to purchase there? Everyone judges them by choosing or not to shop there, and those advocating for their demise are telling the owners and customers you can't have the benefit you find of shopping there.

[Lester75]

The dollar store stuff is in smaller amounts. Smaller containers, smaller rolls of TP etc. That's why they can charge less.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Very correct. And Dollar General's $1 earphones or $5 earphones with a phone mic are just as functional as the bulky $45+ earphones bought in electronics departments of big-box stores. I love the $1 Dollar General clearance items and I stock up the bathroom and kitchen with their soaps, garbage bags, foil, and many other goodies.

Dollar General also does charitable work encouraging literacy, a definite need in an Information Age.

[mad.casual]

Liz was misrepresenting Tucker’s argument a little.

Yeah, not to say Tucker is a genius or even necessarily that he wasn't partially saying what Reason asserts he was saying, but generating, or breathlessly running with other articles that have generated, a narrative like this is Reason's M.O. (Ted Cruz Opposes Liberal Democracy! Ron DeSantis Bans The Word 'Gay' In FL Schools!) It blows my mind that people still fall for it.

[Beezard]

Tuckers been consistently populist. If you listen to Tucker pre-2020, he’s not terribly libertarian on the economics tip. He wants to protect workers jobs from technological innovation and all that. There’s a lot I can disagree with in his earlier books and monologues.

But as far as his post 2020 analysis on political elites who hate the citizenry and the lunacy of the cultural revolution they just foisted upon on. Holy fuck, he’s been batting a zillion.

[Nelson]

"is a symptom of a major problem"

It is. People who live where the jobs aren't seem to think they are getting shafted. Maybe move to a more prosperous area and improve your resume. Hell, with the amount of remote work available any halfway competitive worker in low-cost areas (like rural America) should be raking in the dough. Those salaries are priced for higher-income areas. Or, alternately (but a terrible idea), take a salary that undercuts your competition since your cost of living is lower.

Shit, if I were still working I would kill to live in the beauty of Montana and get paid like I live in New Jersey.

[Uilleam]

He seems to be pointing out that the middle class is shrinking. He's not wrong.

[soldiermedic76]

It is part of a much larger discussion, the idea of measuring success by consumerism and also the failure of the 'service' economy for many.

[CE]

Maybe, but that's not a symptom of "libertarian economics."
It's a symptom of fiat money manipulation via quantitative easing.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Tucker's a big-pants person and speaks English. He speaks for himself as is and needs no interpretation. If he hates Dollar stores, take him at his word. If he says nothing about monetary policy, that is clearly not in his wheel-well.

[Public Entelectual]

Having demonized dollar stores , Carlson should interview David Icke, who knows more demons than Tuck has penny loafers.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Nobody was complaining when Walmarts were springing up everywhere like musrhooms after a rain.

[Zeb]

That's not how I remember it.

[A Thinking Mind]

This.

[Nelson]

Yeah, all I remember is complaining. Yhe impending demise of small businesses was breathlessly reported all the time in the 90s and aughts.

[Uilleam]

And then it came true you simp.

[Nelson]

Not where I live. Most of my town's main street is small, locally owned businesses. We have a number of local "chains" (a coffee house and a couple restaurant groups that grew from 1 restaurant to 5-6 each, just to name a couple), and even a brewery/restaurant that has grown to the point that they have locations in Philly. We have a lot of successful small businesses around me.

Do you live in a place that isn't economically vibrant?

[Uilleam]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Over regulation, corporatism, and government subsidy have destroyed countless small farms and businesses. Just because some yuppy opened a coffee shop on your street doesn't make it less true dipshit.

[Nelson]

That isn't at all what I said. I gave examples of thriving small and medium-sized businesses in my area. I often visit other places that have equally vibrant business communities. They are all over around me, from the Eastern Shore of Maryland to the Delaware Beaches to Southern Jersey to Lancaster, PA.

Like I said, it could be that you live in a less economically vibrant area. But all around me there are thriving small and mid-sized businesses not just in rural and suburban communities, but in small and large cities.

[VinniUSMC]

Not where I live. Most of my town’s main street is small, locally owned businesses. ... Do you live in a place that isn’t economically vibrant?

Sounds more like you live in a place that is stifled by government regulations, like San Fransisco. https://sfplanning.org/permit/chain-stores

[Nelson]

No, we have chain stores as well. Chipotle, Starbucks, CVS, Tropical Smoothie, 7-11, etc. They're just the minority of businesses on Main Street.

Why would you assume otherwise?

[A Thinking Mind]

I mean, that's a government problem much more than it is a Wal-Mart problem. The problem is the government getting in bed with the business, not the business itself operating.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Proximity to a Walmart was a selling point for new developments in the early 2000s.

[Zeb]

That means some people liked it, not that nobody complained. Lots of people like dollar stores too.

[Mother's Lament]

Nobody likes Walmart or Dollar Stores. They like the prices.

[Idaho-Bob]

This.

I rarely buy food in a Walmart, but you cannot beat the prices of household stuff. Toilet paper, paper towels, garbage bags, toothpaste, etc.

Costco is close, but many items are not needed in bulk.

[Nelson]

Which is proof that competition (and therefore capitalism) works.

[Uilleam]

Nobody believes your bullshit.

[Nelson]

That capitalism works? You think that's bullshit.

[Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo]

No, he means given the whole of your comment history here that you advocating capitalism is seen as insincere. But you probably already knew that.

[Nelson]

I have always, every time, without exception, been an advocate of capitalism. I succeeded because of capitalism. I think capitalism is the way for everyone else to succeed as well. I have always been an unabashed, vocal supporter of capitalism.

You are obviously thinking of someone else. Or you are incapable of understanding that opposing cultural conservatism and supporting capitalism is pretty much the definition of libertarianism.

[ducksalad]

I love Walmart, but especially Dollar General and Family Dollar.

What I don't like is perfumed mall stores, curated groceries where stuff is labelled as "ethical", and (unfortunately) low-stock old-fashioned mom and pop stores where you're buying what they have instead of what you came for.

And the clientele at those places. The guy in line at the Dollar General might not have showered and might not speak English, but he for sure won't demand to see the manager, or spend 10 minutes packing and unpacking his purse instead of having his money ready when he's up to bat, or give me a lecture about plastic bags.

[Chumby]

Then Maryland governor Martin O'Malley (D) tried to push a requirement that any employer over X employees must offer full benefits to all staff that I believe included vacation and full health insurance. Iirc, it passed the cuck legislative branch there and he signed it into law. It got challenged at the state supreme court due to it only affecting one business: Walmart. It actually got tossed due to that. Technically, there were two entities that large. The other being the State of Maryland. They of course were exempt, and O’Malley continued to employ full-time staff without providing full benefits to some of them.

[Beezard]

I loved it when his presidential bid crashed and burned to the point where it immolated his entire political career. People in Maryland barely remember his ass, let alone on the national level.

Although the new guy is literally turning Baltimore into a state subsidized economic super black hole at the expense of everything and anything else in the state. So we might end up missing O’Malleys homespun brand of corrupt Tammany Halling. Where at least if you bribed him you could get something done, business wise.

[mad.casual]

It's actually really funny because, not a month ago, my brother was complaining about Dollar General. Not because he doesn't like them, but because there were 3 of them within walking distance of his house.

[Roberta]

And that's bad because...like Burridan's ass, he couldn't decide which way to walk?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I seem to remember everyone bitching about it. The whining was worst from Chicago, where, gasp, they were non-union in a union city.

[Spiritus Mundi]

And now they are all closed because of non-union theft rings.

[soldiermedic76]

Terry Pratchett offered a solution to this, the thieves guild. Even gave you receipts and policed non-guild thieves. You could even pay an annual fee to avoid being 'robbed'.

[DesigNate]

I already pay that fee. It's called taxes.

badum cha

[soldiermedic76]

It begs the question, if ENB lived in Ankh-Morpork, would she belong to the Writers Guild, the (cough Ahem) Seamstresses Guild (1000's of members and only five thimbles) or the Clown and Fools Guild?

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Not talented enough for either the Seamstresses or the Thieves or the Assassins. I'm guessing she'd be with the Sandwich Guild.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

Canada just announced that, by 2035, it will require all new vehicles sold in the country to be zero-emissions.

If Canada REALLY cared about the environment they'd have made the cutoff Jan 1, 2024.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Libertarian economics was a scam perpetrated by the beneficiaries of the economic system that they were defending...

I usually push economic systems that benefit only the elites instead.

[JesseAz]

So Bidenomics?

[HorseConch]

Too bad the bottom rung has given up hope and the middle class is being crushed. I don't see it ending nearly as well for the elites as they envision. Someone is going to have to make the shit they get the serfs to bring them.

[Fats of Fury]

Someone is going to have to make the shit they get the serfs to bring them.

That's what the Chinese and drones are for.

[Commenter_XY]

Where is Sandra (OBL)?!

[Nelson]

Right? Her OBL posts always made me laugh. She was so good at it.

[Fist of Etiquette]

'You mean nothing. You are a consumer, not a human being or a citizen.'

Tucker thinks he's back to the cocktail parties by screaming about late stage capitalism.

[SRG2]

He's positioning himself to be Trump's VP, per Melania's recommendation

[Don't look at me!]

Cite?

[Longtobefree]

A.I. hallucinations?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Trump says he’d consider Tucker Carlson as running mate

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4301977-trump-tucker-carlson-running-mate/

Melania Trump wants husband Donald to tap Tucker Carlson for VP: report

https://nypost.com/2023/12/08/news/melania-trump-wants-husband-donald-trump-to-tap-tucker-carlson-for-vp-report/

Celebrity TV pairing - what a fucking joke.

[JesseAz]

On your sock you said it was Tucker positioning himself. On this sock you defend it with a trump statement.

Where is the Tucker cite?

[SRG2]

As you know perfectly well I am not pluggo's sock. and I don't need a cite for a matter of opinion, though the comment about Melania was a factual statement and pluggo has provided a cite.

I don't think that Don't Look at Me has ever provided a cite for any of his single-sentence heckles so he should STFU.

[JesseAz]

As you know, since I've told you, it doesn't matter if you are shrike or not as you have the same exact talking points as him. An NPC.

[Don't look at me!]

Nobody asks.

[R Mac]

You didn’t state it as an opinion, gov’na shrike.

[SRG2]

I'm sure of this, though. If Trump did ask Carlson to be his VP, almost all of you would approve of his choice regardless of how ridiculous you think it is now. Call it Greenland Syndrome.

[JesseAz]

This was not what your first post said. Provide a citation if you want to continue defending it.

[JesseAz]

Also hilarious that you used the exact same talking point as caloric shrike on diet shrike. While claiming you aren't shrike.

[DesigNate]

I'll defend the idea on the lulz it will bring.

[Sevo]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[A Thinking Mind]

Has Tucker always been like this? I really have never really seen him outside of clips here and there.

[Nelson]

You mean wrong? Yes.

[Beezard]

Depends if you’re talking pre-2020 Tucker or post 2020 Tucker. He’s was phenomenal at being the one guy asking honest questions on the MSM when everyone else shit the bed once the cultural revolution kicked off.

But I recently went back and listened to his (2018) book “ship of fools” and there’s plenty to disagree with from a libertarian economic standpoint. Or even a cultural values standpoint.

My take is he hasn’t changed too much. The issues around him have. But I like him. He routinely hits it out of the park on most things going right now. He’s positively a blast doing interviews on other peoples shows and podcasts. If anything he’s really good at steel manning and coming off as humble in convincing manner. Nothing like the haters try and portray.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Well, consumers are human beings and citizens too, Tuck! It's not like there's any Venn Diagram separation here!

Hell, my Dollar votes early and often multiple times all perfectly legally, and unlike Chicago power-brokers, I don't need any from the dead!

And the products and services I get beat anything anyone running for office has to offer! Politicians cannot give anything which they don't first take!

Fuck Tucker Carlson!

[Quicktown Brix]

Even a working clock is wrong twice a day...wait...no...

That's the deal with Tucker. Sometimes he sounds like a libertarian and sometimes he sounds like a communist.

[Zeb]

I appreciate Carlson because he has been willing to say things that no one else was willing to say (at least among mainstream media types). But he is a real mixed bag for libertarians.

[Quicktown Brix]

True. He is orders of magnitude better than anyone else I can think of in mainstream media.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Agree.

[DesigNate]

That's damning with faint praise if I've ever seen it.

[A Thinking Mind]

"It appears to be unprotected sex," reported The Daily Caller.

I mean, that’s neither here nor there. I think there’s something unique about this sexual encounter, and is a reason people might be talking about it.

[Don't look at me!]

The version I saw was blurred, so I can’t know for sure.
I wonder how the next person who sits at that table is going to feel.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Is there any amount of bleach-based cleanser than can remove that? If not, then I guess the only option is to burn it.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Removing the bodily fluids from the table shouldn't be a problem. Removing the image from our brains on the other hand...

[Chumby]

Boots on the desk was worse than leaking booties on the desk!

- mouth breathing proglodyte

[Jerry B.]

The Bee did a take on this, and at first, I thought, "No way. No one could be so dumb", and then I found out it was a Democratic staffer.

[JesseAz]

As the media is saying it is the fault of conservative outlets that this is a scandal.

Dude also came out and said he was the victim despite him doing the act and uploading it. Then said the scandal was fabricated.

[A Thinking Mind]

Imagine if he’d had the sense to just have sex and not put it on camera.

[Don't look at me!]

Or just bang chicks

[Jerry B.]

Wonder how many chicks have been banged in the Senate Hearing Rooms. I imagine the Kennedys alone ran up quite a score.

[Chumby]

Some of them may have even been consensual.

[mad.casual]

Yeah, the fact that sex of any kind was had in a (government) office isn't really that shocking. What's absolutely astounding is the egomaniacal narcissism to have the sex, video tape it, post it to the internet, and then claim to be the victim of some sort of smear campaign. Even Jussie is probably thinking, "Damn!"

[Don't look at me!]

.. smear campaign…

Pun intended?

[TheReEncogitationer]

Or both.

Speaking as a Pan, I saw the article and pics.

Physically quite wouldable for me, though I like men with better brains.

He should have the damn sense to not video what he doesn't want others to see!

Here's the funniest X Tweet about this from Josh Holmes:

What have they done to my beloved senate.
🙂
😉

[Mother's Lament]

"Speaking as a Pan"

What wrong with Bi?

[TheReEncogitationer]

Nothing at all and I have no beef about those who use the terminology.

It's just that "Pan" captures my orientation and tastes best. It includes Females, Males, Trans, and any sapient beings out there in the rest of the Universe who trip the trigger for me.

By the way. I was listening to the radio show "Ground Zero" one night this weekend and heard someone saying that the Satanists in Iowa were a bunch of Daddy-haters.

Wuzzat Chu, Mother's Lament? Or is there a newsletter I could subscribe to for talking points?
🙂
😉

[Mother's Lament]

No, but I'm definitely not the first to notice that anti-theists are very angry at who they perceive are authority figures. Particularly because most know virtually nothing about the beliefs they rant against, and their actions are directed against certain groups of people rather than being expressions of faith.

And those "Satanists" are definitely anti-theist, because everything they do is centered solely around being pricks to Christians. Which is about as teenage rebel as you can get.

Finally, they know nothing about the religious concept of Satan. They get most of their ideas from comic books, Edwardian LARPers and Milton's Paradise Lost.

[TheReEncogitationer]

So no newsletter? Damn! I was looking for some new entertainment.

And are these folks at Atheists For Liberty also Daddy-hater teenage rebels? Their video are certainly well-thought out and have no G.G. Allin music bumpers.
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Atheists For Liberty
https://www.atheistsforliberty.org/

[Mother's Lament]

"It’s just that “Pan” captures my orientation and tastes best. It includes Females, Males, Trans, and any sapient beings out there in the rest of the Universe"

There's no such thing as trans or aliens, so unless you're including animals and inanimate objects, you're Bi. At least I hope you're Bi.

[TheReEncogitationer]

With CRISPR and SETI being what they are and progressing as they are. I never say never. "Pan" still stands.

And why are you so seemingly invested in my orientation?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I've been trying to figure out this "pan" stuff for a while now as "bi" means bangs male and female. Does "pan" mean ones does dogs, horses, and other things too?

[Idaho-Bob]

and any sapient beings out there in the rest of the Universe who trip the trigger for me.

"Pan" def covers extraterrestrials. 🙂

[R Mac]

So encog is into tentacle porn.

[Chumby]

Cocktopus?

[The Margrave of Azilia]

Captain Kirk?

[soldiermedic76]

More like Will Riker, he definitely had a higher body count than Kirk.

[DesigNate]

@R Mac: I mean, have you seen what some of those tentacles can do?

[R Mac]

Had a Vietnamese roommate in college who was into that anime shit, so yeah. Totally checks with my idea of encog.

[TheReEncogitationer]

The Margrave of Azilia is closest. Kirk's green chick is a looker!

[TheReEncogitationer]

No, R Mac. Tentacles aren't aesthetically pleasing to me. Bilateral symmetry, human-like appendages that won't crush me, and a skin that won't hurt to touch is more my speed.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Chumby, that was roughly Murray Rothbard's descriptor of the Koch Brother's network of non-profits and think-tanks, only spelled Kochtopus.

Rothbard had his moments of creativity before he went totally bonkers and back Pat Buchanan and David Duke.

[mad.casual]

Does “pan” mean ones does dogs, horses, and other things too?

So worthless, self-loathing, and desperate for attention, they'd fuck a cheese grater or the exhaust fan of a "sapient" AI if they though it would get them likes on the internet.

[soldiermedic76]

Well, whenever anything even remotely related to religion, who is the first to post about being an atheist (and often misrepresenting actual Christian doctrine in the process)? To the point that several other atheists respond to correct him.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Your billable hour is as overpriced as Mother's Lament's and every other amateur Psych/Shrink and a fair number of actual Psych/Shrinks. That plus $5 wouldn't even get you a cup of coffee because no one in the coffee house would want to listen.

Stick to babbling in your own puzzle world.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Soldiermedic76, nobody corrected me on a thing. They just hurled a deluge of words and invective like yours.

[TheReEncogitationer]

See reference to sapient beings.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Yeah, me too, I’m glad someone asked but I didn’t care enough to do it myself.

Seems like bi should cover everything that ain’t fucking sick or disgusting? I dunno.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

"Pan" means he's half goat.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

To be fair, Hulk Hogan should have had the same sense, but at least we got something positive out of that, which was Gawker getting obliterated in court.

The only positive that's likely in this scenario is HIV+.

[JesseAz]

Hogan didn't upload his video. This guy apparently uploaded it himself.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Unwanted pregnancy tops everything, since humans creating humans is the source of all human-created problems, including bug-spreading.

But that, of.course, is too ubiquitous, so no scandal there, right?
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[Nelson]

"Dude also came out and said he was the victim despite him doing the act and uploading it. Then said the scandal was fabricated."

Right? Donald Trump ... wait. You think this is bad behavior? So not Trump, but someone you don't like. You don't know him? Weird. Why the double standard? Oh, you don't like his politics, so his claims of being a victim are condemned, not lauded? Yeah, that tracks.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

What the fuck are you blathering about?

[JesseAz]

Standard ignorant leftist ranting from what I can tell.

[Nelson]

"What the fuck are you blathering about?"

This guy tried to claim he was a victim when he was the one who broke the rules. Same with Donald Trump (substitute "the law" for "the rules" in his case).

Yet when this guy does it it's despicable and when Trump does it it isn't. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[R Mac]

What rules?

[Nelson]

Fair point. I just assumed that having sex in a Senate room was against the rules. That may have been a bad assumption.

[JesseAz]

Let me guess. You think trump russia is real don't you.

[Nelson]

I think there's a huge report that's much more credible than partisan apologists like you.

[R Mac]

Haha, you TDS motherfuckers are a riot.

Putin says “Boo!”

[Quicktown Brix]

then I found out it was a Democratic staffer.

So he was the top then?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Story I read says he was fucked by a German diplomat who immediately left the country when the story broke.

[R Mac]

You know what other German pounded a staffer then fled the country?

[Vernon Depner]

David Hasselhoff?

[Chumby]

Kaiser Wilhelm?

[R Mac]

Marx goddamnit. Karl fucking Marx.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Ira Einhorn?

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

I hope the real winner here is monkey pox

[Chumby]

Will we see the usual pro face diaper crowd here push for further punishment to the unmasked, uncondomed potentially monkeypox, COVID, and HIV positive but not yet showing symptoms Democratic Party staffer of Ben Cardin (D) or will they pullout from commenting?

[TheReEncogitationer]

It's just another part of the larger clusterfuck that is life in D.C.

No N-95 masks required for me, since I am now triple-Pfizered--Qanon thinks I live life in the fast lane!--but feathery, furry, and leather gimp masks are always welcome.

And nothing I like involves exchange of untested bodily fluids, Orgy responsibly, I say.
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[TheReEncogitationer]

See my reply to Red Rocks above.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Hopefully his PrEP prescription was up to date.

[Minadin]

Yeah, it's an odd thing to add to the description. "And he wasn't even wearing a rubber!" isn't even close to the primary reason that people objected to this.

[A Thinking Mind]

Then again, that seems like the sort of comment people here might make, so maybe it's tongue-in-cheek.

[BYODB]

Or perhaps they're just noting that these gay men, like most other gay men, aren't interested in avoiding STD's.

In fairness, straight dudes don't much care for condoms either but for straight people 'protection' avoids more than just STD's.

After all, straight people are magical and can create new human beings on accident if they aren't careful.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Do they make condoms invisible now?
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[Fats of Fury]

This guy will have a bright future in public school education, particularly k-8.
Either that or Disney can hire him.

[Chumby]

He will be in the inspiration for their first “bottom” musical cartoon:

The Little Spermaid

[Don't look at me!]

“Reasonable profits”
Hey, Joe lives on 10%, why can’t everyone else?

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Which is funny, because the profit margin for grocery stores is 2%, 3% for gas, and ~4% for resturants

[defaultdotxbe]

And gas stations only get to 3% by the minimart profits, the profits on the gasoline itself is only 1%. That's why you don't see gas stations without a minimart anymore.

[A Thinking Mind]

There are places that sell gas at a loss so they can make money on fountain drinks and beer.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Accidental hostage killing...

Accidental is doing some work here.

[Mickey Rat]

It is combat. Friendly fire incidents happen and those are tragic mistakes in judgement, but unless you have some cause to accuse the Israelis of doing this on purpose, it is not much more than that.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It appears from the reporting (and the IDF admission) that the Israelis were unarmed and shirtless when shot. In their shoes I wouldn't want to be very generous to Hamas fighters but there's a reason you don't discourage surrender. The shooting wasn't the accident, the accident is that they turned out to be their own people.

[soldiermedic76]

No, but give a bunch of 18 yo pumped up on adrenaline, lack of sleep, rage, fear, boredom (a lot of combat is boredom), train them to overcome years of morality telling them killing is bad, have them watch their buddies killed and maimed, yeah shit happens, especially when the enemy hides behind civilians or pretends to be civilians. The surprising thing is shit doesn't happen more often. Read about some of the shit the 'greatest generation' did, especially in the last couple of months of the war (there was a feel sense of anger that the Germans continued to fight long after it was obvious they had lost, and some GIs just lost it) and despite this, the Germans surrendered in droves. The most dangerous time when you're surrendering is in those first couple of minutes after you surrender. Especially if you surrender right after fighting to the last bullet or something. It's fucked up, but it's obvious that this is not IDF policy, and the chances are these soldiers are in deep shit. The bigger surprise is people still are surprised when shit like this happens, but then again most of the ones acting surprised would probably not survive the first day at reception battalion, let alone actually make it long enough to understand.

[soldiermedic76]

Fuck, most couldn't survive MEPPS.

[soldiermedic76]

Also, not excusing the behavior, just pointing out the stupidity of those condemning the IDF as if this was unheard of behavior.

[soldiermedic76]

A good portion of every basic training for ground forces the world over is teaching some basic skills, that run contrary to our nature:
1) learning to run towards the fire rather than away from it
2) how to follow orders (which is a lot more than blindly doing what you're told)
3) how to overcome fairly widespread taboos against killing
4) how to put your team and the mission before yourself

A good portion (from my experience over half) of what you do in basic is not going to be applicable in combat, it's a out problem solving and building confidence. This is why the USMC has kept the bayonet course, and the Army use to make every recruit go through the bayonet course. Why you have to do countless ever harder obstacles courses that involve challenges such as heights and water, drill and ceremony etc. There is a reason boots are seen as cocky, it's because they just finished months of intense self confidence training. It's why veterans can usually spot other vets, it's not the lingo we speak (that changes over time) or the fact that we get nervous if we aren't fifteen minutes early to anything, or step off with our left foot without thinking about it, or have an aversion to carrying anything in our right hand, or cutting across the lawn rather than taking the sidewalk, it's because we all tend to still be a bit cocky, self confident, put ourselves out there especially when we're in an uncomfortable situation. And the reason militaries spend so much time instilling this and training this is because when you make actual contact, it is the hope that it's so ingrained that you don't completely lose your bearing and either run, or so fucked up shit a routinely (in a perfect world ever, but humans will never be perfect).

[soldiermedic76]

I've always considered myself a fairly humble and unsure of myself, but I've been told by a lot of people that I am cocky and self assured, especially in situations where I felt the most nervous.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

You're not alone in that. I've been told, in situations where people usually get nervous and panic, that I look calm and composed. Never been in the military though. Had one such incident, about 15 years ago, where I was driving down a icy 4-lane road. A few cars spin out maybe a quarter-mile away in front of me, and I steered slightly to the left of one of them while squeezing the brake - I had little as the road was a sheet of ice. Never once did I spin, and I had slowed enough at the end that my right rear tire made contact with their right headlight. My damage was a bent wheel. His, a cracked headlight. Through it all, my g/f at the time said I looked ridiculously icy calm.

[soldiermedic76]

Maybe it's having six or seven round browns in your face screaming at you, giving you conflicting orders and having to maintain your composure. A tear to the guys in the smokey the bear hats is like blood in the water toba shark.

[R Mac]

It’s one of those not nature vs nature, but nature and nurture things. Some people are naturally calm under normal pressure, but without any practice/training when the pressure reaches extreme levels their inherent abilities can become overwhelmed.

People more inherent to freak out can be trained to overcome high pressure situations, but it will take a mental toll afterwards to recover.

People that are inclined to not panic, who have also had training and experience in high stress situations will excel in these situations in a way that will baffle others around them.

[sarcasmic]

Tucker Carlson is an idiot.

[Don't look at me!]

sarcasmic 6 hours ago
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Have you ever considered telling someone you disagree with why what they say is wrong, as opposed to telling them that they as a person are wrong? You don’t change minds by attacking people. That just puts them on the defensive.

[JesseAz]

Perfect.

[sarcasmic]

You're still defending the guy who lied about voting machines I see.

[Don't look at me!]

Nope, just exposing your hypocrisy.

[sarcasmic]

How is that hypocritical? Who was a talking to? Who was I trying to convince of something? What mind was I trying to change?

As usual you only show off how stupid you are while impressing other stupid people.

[Don't look at me!]

No wonder they call you sarcoholic.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Strawcasmic

He is working on the alcohol thing.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

It works. Now watch for some complaint about tu quoque or ad hominem or some such damn thing.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

It's different when sarc does it.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Anybody who wants to see how hypocritical sarc is can go here:

https://reason.com/2023/12/15/in-godzilla-minus-one-government-wont-save-anyone-when-the-crisis-comes/?comments=true#comment-10359327

He posted a comment, someone responded to his comment in an entirely civil conversational manner, and sarc responded by insulting him.

Sarc the humanitarian conversationalist.

[sarcasmic]

And now I will call attention to all the times Alphy has called out the lies and hypocrisy from people he sees as part of his political tribe.

Just kidding. He's never done that, and he never will.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Dood! I called you out for your bad behavior in that specific comment, insulting someone who tried to have a normal conversation with you, after all the complaints you make about no one trying to have a normal conversation with you. All you did was brag about responding to a previous comment.

You are a moron, a hypocrite, and a failure. Damn straight I'm going to call you out on it the next time you do the same.

[sarcasmic]

And the chances of you calling out someone you see as part of your political tribe are exactly zero.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

You whine about everyone else not treating you civilly, and then you go and insult someone right off the bat. Did it occur to you that if you want to be treated civilly, you should treat others civilly first? If not, then I can't claim self-awareness as your strong suit.

[soldiermedic76]

No. If you haven't figured out yet, Sarc and Lyingjeffy are both hypocrites, and seem to be proud of it.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

And they don't like being held to account on it.

[R Mac]

Poor sarc doesn’t know what hypocrite means.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

We need to keep a running list of terms Sarc doesn't understand.

[JesseAz]

As someone once pointed out that is the dictionary.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Beautiful.

sarcasmic 3 days ago

Throughout the movie he’s shamed by his fellows for his failure as a kamikaze. It becomes obvious that his plan is to sacrifice himself. It also becomes obvious that the new plane has an ejection seat when deficiencies of the old plane are listed. That’s the foreshadow. But you would have missed it because you’re dumb. Now I ruined the surprise.

"But you would have missed it because you’re dumb." DLAM was perfectly civil with his original response.

[R Mac]

The funniest part is sarc calling anyone else dumb.

[JesseAz]

He criticized Powell and Giuliani. You've been given the links multiple times.

[sarcasmic]

He made shit up about voting machines to push the narrative of lies you defend, and you still defend him.

[JesseAz]

I'm sure you'll provide evidence of your bald assertion since you've been given his criticisms of such many times.

Lol. Who am I kidding.

[Mother's Lament]

He made shit up about voting machines

No, he didn't. Where did you get that?

As I just posted below, Tucker was the one guy at Fox who called out Sidney Powell on Dominion voting machines and disagreed with her publicly.

[DesigNate]

Giving people a chance to air their ideas is not an endorsement of them and to my knowledge, he never pushed the voting machine thing, he just let them come on the air to discuss.

[R Mac]

Really sticking with this false narrative, huh sarc?

[Mother's Lament]

"You’re still defending the guy who lied about voting machines I see."

Tucker was the one guy at Fox who called out Sidney Powell on Dominion voting machines and disagreed.

To say he lied about voting machines is... well... a lie, unless you're saying Sidney Powell was right.

How come nobody has corrected Sarc on this yet?

[JesseAz]

He has been given this information a dozen times at this point. He doesn't care.

[R Mac]

He didn’t lie about voting machines you ignorant moron. His communications were used as evidence against other people at Fox. He wasn’t even named in the lawsuit.

[Fist of Etiquette]

New York City recently passed a law banning size and height discrimination when hiring dancers...

Like fat chicks can't have daddy issues, too.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Next week
"a pod of dancers use southwest to fly to NY for jobs"

[Minadin]

https://babylonbee.com/news/southwest-introduces-new-c-17-cargo-plane-capable-of-carrying-your-mom

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Finally, a cheap plane big enough for a certain commenter here.

[Chumby]

You are free to moo around the country

[Zeb]

I don't know when height and weight isn't relevant to hiring a dancer. When you are putting on a visual spectacle, it's fairly relevant what your performers look like.

[BYODB]

One of my ex's was a Ballet instructor, and it may come as a shock but there is a reason you don't see any hugely fat ballet dancers.

Namely, the arch of their foot is incapable of supporting that much weight without breaking and the g force involved magnifies weight.

It's physics, not discrimination. I suppose it's possible there's a morbidly obese ballerina out there, but I'd also wager they're dancing on borrowed time or simply not doing the dance correctly in order to avoid major injury.

[Mickey Rat]

Science is phobic, it mean spiritedly defines limitations on what is possible.

[soldiermedic76]

Don't forget the lifts. Much easier to lift and hold a 5' nothing, 90 pound woman than a 6' 200 pound woman, look at women figure skaters in pair competitions too, and which cheerleaders get chosen to be flyers and the top of the pyramids etc.

[R Mac]

I didn’t rtfa but I assumed it was a different kind of dancer.

[Zeb]

It's NYC. There are a lot of professional stage dancers. I don't think this was about strippers.

[R Mac]

Be a lot cooler if it was.

[Zeb]

Yeah, that too. Dancers are athletes. It's like saying you can't discriminate against fatties when putting together a soccer team or something.

[Chumby]

Will OnlyFans have to compensate fatties in NY the same as the content creators that make OnlyFans viable?

[Eeyore]

Has anyone sued the San Francisco ballet company yet for failing to hire a plus sized dancer? I don't see a single fatty in the cast of this years Nutcracker.

[Chumby]

What about dancers that have had their nuts cracked?

[Eeyore]

I can't find any midgets either.

[Chumby]

They might be there; they have a small role.

[JesseAz]

You've been short on puns lately.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

They're dwarfed in the other threads.

[Don't look at me!]

Just a little.

[Mickey Rat]

The Rockettes kick line is going to look very uneven in the future, I suppose.

[Sevo]

And small audiences, also.

[R Mac]

Along with the stage.

[Chumby]

Elton John wrote a song about them holding him (and not Tony Danza).

[InsaneTrollLogic]

And here I thought the song was about Rahm Emmanuel.

[soldiermedic76]

The maximum height requirement for a 19K armored crewman is 6'2", my son is 6' 1 1/2". The height requirement isn't because the Army is prejudiced against tall soldiers, it's because, as my son will arrest, he barely fits in the driver's compartment. His head brushes the driver's hatch, and the "steering wheel" rests on his knees, so he had to modify the way he drives compared to shorter soldiers. Sometimes some professions require height and or weight requirements due to the nature of the job. But, of course regressives don't understand that.

[soldiermedic76]

Airborne schools also used to have a minimum weight requirement when I served (not sure if it still does or not) because that was the minimum weight needed to properly deploy the chute. I knew a couple of guys and gals who were just above that, who would add extra weight to their jump bags (also knew several of short, below average soldiers who served as their squad machine gunner in Airborne units for the same reason, the SAW and the Pig weighed more than an M-16). I think there was also an upper end to, due to the force of landing. But I was a dirty leg, so I'm not sure about the latter.

[soldiermedic76]

If I remember right it wasn't your primary chute that was the issue but your reserve. And if there is one piece of equipment you want functioning, it's your reserve, because if you have to deploy it, that means your primary failed and if your reserve fails to, while you'll be living (briefly) one of the versus from the C-130 cadence.

[soldiermedic76]

*and I now apologize to every veteran who reads this and will have "C-130 rolling down the strip" stuck in your head the rest of the day.

[A Thinking Mind]

An Intelligencer investigation helped to uncover a massive COVID-19 testing scam.

Just needs a little more testing.

[Fist of Etiquette]

That's as close as we dare get to investigating "COVID mitigation" schemes.

[Super Scary]

No *widespread* Covid-19 testing scams. We're fine.

[Fist of Etiquette]

But what are 'essential requirements' in the highly subjective world of dance?

That they can take a defibrillator shock and get right back on that pole.

[Don't look at me!]

Shake those money makers.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Dating an ai has been a thing in Sci fi going back to Jules Verne, archer did not come up with it.

[Ska]

Archer didn't create the waifu, they just showed it to the normals.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

At this point half of archer is progressive propaganda

[Ska]

Yeah, it had really fallen off. Archer died in that swimming pool, end of story.

[Ajsloss]

I think they could've gotten a lot of miles out of the Figgis Agency.

[Mickey Rat]

There is an example of that in the first season of Star Trek: TNG. A hologram AI woman makes such an impression on one character that an episode down the line twhich involves his mind being scanned to create a virtual future history for him that the person behind that thinks she's the love of his life.

[Commenter_XY]

Minuet

[BYODB]

Ah, yes, Riker the man-whore.

He never met an alien he didn't want to have a 'close encounter' with.

[Mickey Rat]

"Clean up duty on Holodeck 2, ensign. Looks like Commander Riker has had a particularly long session"

"Dear Maker, no!"

[soldiermedic76]

Even ones whose sex was ambiguous and lived in a gender free society, which he taught to be a woman so he could get his jollies. Oh and supposedly it's now canon that Tasha Yar was a lesbian. Gee, a lesbian is infected with a virus that has similar effects as alcohol and the first thing the supposed dyke does is screw the obviously male android (who she told she had always wondered how fully functional he was).

[BYODB]

Eh, given her backstory I can give that one a pass.

Data was about as non-threatening and genderless as your average Mr. Coffee.

Given her backstory involved literal 'rape gangs' I'd suppose that lesbianism or sex dolls would be preferable since she apparently never really got over any of that, and then she was dead before any meaningful character growth.

I'm also pretty sure Riker would be down to clown with some dudes too. He really was a total slut. The most unrealistic thing about the whole show was him ending up with just one woman. If ever there was an officer that you'd expect to end up with some weird sex cult harem, it's him. Diana must be a freak.

[soldiermedic76]

She's a betazoid so, those kinky things you're afraid to ask for, she knows already, and given the culture of betazoid (and their midlife change, which she would be around when they got married in the movies), being a freak is entirely possible.

[Vernon Depner]

Riker would be down to clown with some dudes too.

In the "Farpoint Station" pilot episodes I remember raising my eyebrows at the obvious "chemistry" between Riker and Wesley Crusher, and wondering how far they were going to go with that. Fortunately, the writers seemed to have dropped the idea quickly.

[soldiermedic76]

Could be worse, per TNG almost the entire engineering department were creepy stalkers. LaForge and Barkley and their holodeck romances.

[soldiermedic76]

At least Riker's holodeck romances wasn't a real woman.

[Mickey Rat]

We do not know what all Riker got up to on the holodeck. Given his interest in the NX-01's history, he could have reprogrammed "Vulcan Love Slave" with T'Pol as the title character.

[soldiermedic76]

That would be my second choice. I had a thing for Ensign Ro. Which I would note Riker also nailed.

[R Mac]

Weird Science was the best science fiction movie ever.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A congressional staffer working for Sen. Ben Cardin (D–Md.) was fired after being linked to a gay sex tape filmed in a Senate hearing room.

Not to take my media cynicism to a new level but has anyone verified this was the twink in the video? WHO'S WILL TO TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM AND WATCH IT FOR ME?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Thinking on that, does anyone know how old the male was that the staffer was banging on camera?

[JesseAz]

Illegal immigrants complain about the free food they are getting from the free shelter they are getting. None start up a food truck.

https://nypost.com/2023/12/15/metro/migrants-reject-sandwiches-chicken-dishes-at-nyc-shelters/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost

[Don't look at me!]

Must not be very hungry.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

"the majority of the meals are procured through nonprofits, minority- and woman-owned caterers,"

Hmmmm I think I see the problem

[Don't look at me!]

Nobody wants an ENB sammich.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

Sbp does

[mad.casual]

Racist.

[Agammamon]

Are we about to get a new 'wallz r closing in!' article from Sullum?

[A Thinking Mind]

Can Beggars Be Choosers? -A Soho Forum Debate.

[Super Scary]

"Migrant mom, Johana Roa, 23, admitted the breakfast is varied, but not to her taste.

“The breakfast they give us is very sweet. They give us pancakes, donuts and cookies for breakfast at 6am. It is too sweet to give to my daughter, so I just take a few things.”

“Nothing healthy apart from eggs and fruit, apples and oranges. No oats,” she added."

Look, if you want to live in America, you need to eat like one too. Now eat your Froot Loops!

[Medulla Oblongata]

I bet they have oats back at home.

[mad.casual]

The narrative blindness is astounding. "We got to America only to discover Americans eat processed foods and we felt cheated!"

I understand the cops where you're from may not eat donuts, but how have you not heard that American cops eat donuts? Did somebody tell you Americans don't eat processed foods and/or don't throw processed foods at everything?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

They're also whining about the temperature of the sandwiches.

[R Mac]

Joking aside it’s a pretty telling indictment about the garbage most Americans shove down their pie holes.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Sounds like she doesn't want her daughter to be an obese diabetic. And that's just plain un American. America is a great melting pot swirling with Cheesy Poofs and hormone blockers and Adderall. If that's not good enough she can go right the fuck back where she came from.
But seriously, she sounds like a good mom to me. I wish her well.

[mad.casual]

Disagree:

“Nothing healthy apart from eggs and fruit, apples and oranges. No oats,” she added.”

Fuck you bitchy, Venezuelan Karen, you can take your snow flake who's a couple months away from developing gluten sensitivity and allergies to everything except lukewarm gruel and head your ass back to Venezuela or wherever it is you came from. We're full up on cunty, entitled bitches already.

I'm a bit with soldiermedic76 below, I think there's a bit of a cultural/lost in translation issue going on as well. At least, IME, E. European and S. Asian women will both absolutely beg to be fed and, when given a bowl of cheerios, take a shit in their own bowl.

[soldiermedic76]

Okay, to many sweets, I can agree, a lot of mass produced breakfasts/commercially produced do tend to be heavy on the sweets, however, where I was raised, you don't criticize charity or gifts.

[Vernon Depner]

Being a whiny ingrate while on the dole is very American.

[soldiermedic76]

I guess it depends, but we definitely have our fair share of that type, for sure.

[soldiermedic76]

Enough we really don't need to import more.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

I guess we could let them eat cake.

[Mickey Rat]

But that appears to be why they do not like the food, it is too cakelike.

[Mickey Rat]

So this is the result of $432 million dollar, no bid contract that is being financed at city taxpayer expense. That is, apparently, just for the food that the "migrants" do not want to eat and not insignificant portions of is going to waste.

[DesigNate]

"Nothing healthy apart from eggs and fruit, apples and oranges."

That's plenty healthy and a damn sight better than the crap we feed kids at public schools.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Canada just announced that, by 2035, it will require all new vehicles sold in the country to be zero-emissions.

The vehicle will be zero, the power plant that charges its batteries? Probably not so much.

[Mother's Lament]

Justin Trudeau better start working on new batteries because a Tesla's range at minus 35 is a tenth of its normal range, and Canada isn't known for its population density.

Every time you Americans feel glum about being ruled by a senile puppet, look to our retarded puppet in the north to realize it could be worse.

[mad.casual]

Justin Trudeau better start working on new batteries because a Tesla’s range at minus 35 is a tenth of its normal range, and Canada isn’t known for its population density.

My understanding is that the cold fucks with the charging too. Maybe they're fudging the math between charging the same amount of time and getting 1/10th the range or charging 10X as long. The sticky wicket as I understand it though is that Li Ion batteries won't charge at all in the cold and the Tesla actually burns energy to warm them.

[mad.casual]

Li Ion batteries won’t charge at all in the cold

Being clear, lest fanbois fanboi: the batteries charge in the cold but there are real world temps where charging doesn't take place in any sort of usable timeframe.

[Idaho-Bob]

Build and heat indoor facilities for charging.

It's only tax dollars, not real money.

[JesseAz]

Easier. Require all real estate developers to do so through regulatory codes.

[Nelson]

I remember when I was at a job in Fairbanks and asked why all the cars had plugs hanging out of their front grills. They were electric heaters. Apparently it gets so cold there the oil freezes, so there are cords everywhere (including every parking meter) so people can plug their oil pans in. They even have this stuff called ice-fog.

I wonder if the batteries would explode if they had a heater like the oil pans.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

What's the over/under on Alberta just saying "fuck it" and telling Ottawa to go suck rotten eggs by the end of the decade?

[Mother's Lament]

Alberta's trying to pull out of the Canada Pension Plan right now, which feels like a harbinger for pulling out of confederation.

Saskatchewan, the Northwest Territories and Interior BC would probably join it (Lower mainland would join China). Maybe Manitoba and Nunavut too depending who offers the natives a better deal.

[Chumby]

A challenge is that Oilberta doesn’t touch an ocean.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Yukon fix that as long as Prince Rupert goes with them.

[soldiermedic76]

I've only seen one E-Vehicle here in Northeast Montana, too and it was during the summer. We're feeling pretty happy so far because we've not yet had a day below zero in December and not one since the start of November.

[A Thinking Mind]

What about the mine where the rare earths for the batteries come from?

[Don't look at me!]

We have plenty of immigrant children for that work.

[VinniUSMC]

China pollution doesn't count.

[Spiritus Mundi]

EVs make up less than 5% of the total market in Canaduh. There is no way the market will shift to 100% in 10 years. People won't buy them and the car comapnies will go bankrupt. The only thing left will be for government to outlaw the sale of gas and shit will hit the fan.

[A Thinking Mind]

While he's at it, he should demand recognition of Canada's Lunar Colonies by 2040.

[Mother's Lament]

"People won’t be able to afford them and the car companies will get massive grants, and they'll still ban gas engines and parts for repair anyway."

Fixed that for you.

Also, horses emit methane, so fuck you if you think a sleigh is going to pass.

[soldiermedic76]

It's Canada, will dogsleds be acceptable?

[JesseAz]

Nuclear Secrets wasn't working as a justification for the Mar a Lago raid, so back to the classics. Russia!

https://thepoliticsbrief.com/explosive-new-report-hints-at-the-real-reason-the-fbi-raided-trumps-home-at-mar-a-lago/

[A Thinking Mind]

It’s hilarious that this is coming from CNN.

The day before leaving office, Trump issued an order declassifying most of the binder’s contents, setting off a flurry of activity in the final 48 hours of his presidency. Multiple copies of the redacted binder were created inside the White House, with plans to distribute them across Washington to Republicans in Congress and right-wing journalists.

They’re pissed off that Trump was declassifying stuff they didn’t want out. I was talking from the very start how this whole thing was about overclassification problems, and now they’re saying the main target was something Trump himself used his unilateral power to declassify.

They’re just confessing to the existence of The Deep State. They worked to prevent Trump from declassifying materials he wanted to release, as the sole person with the authority to make that call.

[mad.casual]

now they’re saying the main target was something Trump himself used his unilateral power to declassify.

I liked the inclusion of the word "most". Like Trump, known for his modesty and clear-headedness, took the time to parse out which documents shouldn't be declassified and then took them with him.

I guess he's back to being the low-80-IQ Russian 12D chess genius... again.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

The day before leaving office, Trump issued an order declassifying most of the binder’s contents, setting off a flurry of activity in the final 48 hours of his presidency.

Hahaha, holy shit, seriously? I was wondering if there was any kind of actual written directive saying, "declassify this stuff", as opposed to him just randomly spouting off.

Thanks for confirming that, CNN.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

They're confirming what Trump has been saying all along. And the DOJ has refused to release any of it despite being ordered to do so. I'd be willing to bet that Trump knows exactly where the missing unredacted binder is.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I’d be willing to bet that Trump knows exactly where the missing unredacted binder is.

Likewise. October surprise, perhaps?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Could be interesting.

[soldiermedic76]

You can't declassify that, it makes us all look bad, and might decreases trust in the government and everyone knows that's only what dictators who hate democracy do. I mean, Hitler literally worked for twelve years as Fuhrer trying to convince the Germans not to trust the government.

Wait... What's that? Not trusting the government is the opposite of what fascists do? That can't be right.

[Agammamon]

re we about to get a new ‘wallz r closing in!’ article from Sullum?

[R Mac]

It’s Crossfire Hurricane.

[Mother's Lament]

We all knew it was.

Looking forward to SRG and Jeff's excuses about how Trump didn't have the right to declassify them somehow.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

They'll have some convoluted, twisted, contorted lie excuse for it.

[soldiermedic76]

Everything is permissible if you're stopping literal Hitler.

[Mother's Lament]

Including being literal Hitler.

[soldiermedic76]

Exactly.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I'm a capitalist.

I have no problem with companies making reasonable profits.

As long as I get my 10%.

[A Thinking Mind]

Being upset about Dollar Stores is such a rich people problem. Sometimes people need to get cheaply made shit because it’s all they can afford. I have a habit of breaking my small plates, and I don’t like stressing out when it happens. So I just get cheap gray or red ones from the Dollar Tree.

[defaultdotxbe]

If stuff wasn't so cheap here then maybe immigrants wouldn't want to come and would stay in their own countries. Truly a Tucker Carlson paradise.

[R Mac]

Pretty sure there’s cheap shit where they’re coming from.

[Chumby]

Yeah, but you aren’t picking up that tab.

[Idaho-Bob]

Melmac.

[TheReEncogitationer]

I buy from Dollar stores now and I would buy from them if I had Elon Musk money. I'd just buy more and have it delivered. Then pocket the savings for investment in my global satellite Internet service, which Elon would invest in if he wanted even bigger profits.
🙂
😉

[JesseAz]

Tom Elliot has a useful breakdown between the evidence required for Trump impeachment and Biden impeachment.

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1735080575206150175

The new narrative based on dem news shows over the weekend is that Joe won't bribed while President so no big deal.

[JesseAz]

Example of narrative shift.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/ro-khanna-biden-didnt-do-anything-wrong

[A Thinking Mind]

He was Vice President….I mean, come on.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Well you can't impeach a president for taking bribes when he was vice president. Wait... What?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Turley Says Biden May Have Just Given House Impeachment Probe A New Lead
https://themessenger.com/opinion/hunter-biden-contempt-of-congress-subpoena-white-house-impeachment-prosecution

The bottom line is that the white house admits that Joe was aware of Hunter's intention to defy a legal subpoena issued under the authority of 3 House committees. Those committees are not investigating Hunter, they're investigating Joe. If Joe was aware of Hunter's intentions and did nothing it's a pretty compelling case of obstruction that the House can and will investigate.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

If Joe was aware of Hunter’s intentions and did nothing it’s a pretty compelling case of obstruction that the House can and will investigate.

So I guess we're back to "process crimes are totally okay" now?

[R Mac]

Lol.

[Michael Ejercito]

If process crimes ewere emphatically rejected, Jeffy might have a point.

[Super Scary]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Nelson]

"If Joe was aware of Hunter’s intentions and did nothing"

Which statute is it that forbids doing nothing when someone else is subpoenaed?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Didn't claim there is a statute or that a law was broken. Only that the case can be made that Joe participated in obstructing a congressional investigation into his own corruption which would obviously be pertinent to an impeachment.

[Nelson]

How? By not doing anything?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

The charge is called contempt.

[Nelson]

You've almost answered my question. Finish hard!

Contempt of ... what?

[soldiermedic76]

As the MSM pointed out multiple times, you don't have to commit an actual crime to be impeached.

[soldiermedic76]

But that may only apply if you post mean tweets, have orange skin and a bad dye job and are pretty much a standard Reagan Democrat that's somehow now in the Republican Party because the Dems have gone completely fucking insane.

[Nelson]

"As the MSM pointed out multiple times, you don’t have to commit an actual crime to be impeached."

OK, I'll play your way. What is the accusation against someone who didn't do anything when someone else planned to do something?

[soldiermedic76]

Biden hasn't done anything wrong as President, well except maybe using the DoJ to protect his son from investigation (until the judge notices and threw it out) and used the same DoJ to target people he disagrees with politically, and used his office to censor speech he didn't like, but come on, those aren't impeachable offenses, and just waste taxpayer and Congress's time. Not like having a phone conversation or telling people to protest peacefully, now those are impeachable offenses.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Didn't the TV show Archer already invent this, years ago?

Oh, Krieger-san!

[Think It Through]

"New York City recently passed a law banning size and height discrimination when hiring dancers, which follows in the footsteps of similar legislation passed by San Francisco and Washington, D.C."

So this explains that ubiquitous Ozempic commercial.

(Side note: someone educate me on how to make italics or bold text, with [] type notations).

[Don't look at me!]

Use < , not [

[Think It Through]

Like this?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Yes. And blockquote is: [blockquote], [/blockquote].

Like this

[Don't look at me!]

Block quotes are out of style.

[A Thinking Mind]

I never use them because they don't seem to close properly.

[MWAocdoc]

"Harrison Bergeron" by Kurt Vonnegut

[Mother's Lament]

Meanwhile in the Senate Hearing room.

[Eeyore]

Adorable

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Alright that made me laugh.

[Stuck in California]

Me too. Thanks Mother's, great link.

[R Mac]

Ha

[soldiermedic76]

That's pretty good

[Chumby]

That Democratic staffer is hoping guys critical of his behavior would turn the other cheek.

[Jerry B.]

"Southwest will be forced to pay a $140 million fine."

And, of course, the fine will be divided amongst all the Southwest passengers inconvenienced by the delays, right?

[Don't look at me!]

Were the delays caused by fighting over who has to sit next to the fatties?

[JesseAz]

Will they still be able to afford free 2nd seats for fatties.

[Chumby]

How do they get the Lil Rascal mobility scooter in the cabin?

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Maybe Jeff has an answer?

[JesseAz]

They check those then pay people for human powered rascals at the gate.

[Chumby]

You think they have a Brock Lesnar working there that is strong enough to rickshaw the milk dud up the boarding ramp?

[Nelson]

"And, of course, the fine will be divided amongst all the Southwest passengers inconvenienced by the delays, right?"

$90 million is for a fund to compensate passengers. The rest is a fine.

[soldiermedic76]

How much is that per person, after the lawyers and all take their cut? Will enough be left over to buy a plane ticket?

[Nelson]

I've since found out the $90 million is a fund for future passenger claims. Nothing about what the passengers from this event might get, although I'm sure there's a bunch if lawsuits pending.

And these are fines and a dedicated fund, not lawsuits, so there probably aren't any lawyer fees or other money taken out. Other than the reported $35 million fine that goes directly to the government, but that is separate from the fund.

[mad.casual]

Didn't the TV show Archer already invent this, years ago?

If you regard all virtual girlfriends as object, sure. Some of us aren't such shallow misogynists and can see past the superficial commonalities to the characteristics like pixel depth and unique shape rendering that makes every virtual girlfriend unique.

[Nelson]

OK, that's really funny. Well played, sir.

[Mother's Lament]

"On so many counts, Carlson is wrong. Life in the U.S. has gotten better since 1969, when he was born, in clear and measurable ways—life expectancy, child mortality rates, average income per person, liberal democratic scores of countries around the world, and much more. "

Liz is absolutely right, but what is also true is that in America and the rest of the Anglosphere, as well as Western Europe, all those metrics started to stagnate in the late 90's and began to regress in the 2010s.

Most people are definitely not better off than their economic class was in 2000, and are in a worse position than in 2012.
The citizens of Panem may be doing well, but the last 200 years of wealth creation for the plebs has stalled out and is reversing.

Tucker may be targeting the wrong villain, but he's not wrong to notice the problem.

[mad.casual]

Tucker may be targeting the wrong villain, but he’s not wrong to notice the problem.

If you'd told me a bunch of SCA-type members got control of the reigns of power and turned 2019-2020 into a re-enactment of 1918-1919, it would actually make more sense.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

Oh bullshit. Internet sucked, there were no smart phones. Life is much better than 20 years ago, and if you compare hours worked to buy things, that's improved too.

[JesseAz]

Not for rents and I believe energy is worse as well. Core staples. And while I enjoy the internet, social media has caused a huge degrade to society and increase in Americans going to therapy.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

LOL, please. Smartphones are the reason the internet is such a shitshow these days. We already had high-speed internet available by the early 2000s, and the whole internet culture was a lot more free-wheeling and far less censory than it is today.

[Mother's Lament]

"Oh bullshit. Internet sucked, there were no smart phones."

Oh for fucks sake!
I was talking about personal wealth and standard of living, not tech upgrades. I hope you were being sarcastic.

[Mother's Lament]

"if you compare hours worked to buy things, that’s improved too."

Fuck no. The complete opposite.

[mad.casual]

The trains are on time too!

[InsaneTrollLogic]

I thought Ill Douche just crapped his pants.

[Zeb]

I'm not sure that has made life better. I really wasn't suffering by the lack of those things in the late 90s. Of course the technology is amazing and does allow lots of new exciting things to happen. But it's also responsible for a log of the clown world insanity.

[R Mac]

Average age of first time home buyers continues to rise.

[soldiermedic76]

Smart phone that I have to replace every couple years (because they stop working very well) or the security and personal wealth building benefits of owning real property... Hmmm that's a tough one which is going to improve my life. Building equity or TikTok videos lauding Bin Laden.... And making gay porn in the Senate hearing room... Gee, I really can't decide.

[Zeb]

If such a thing were possible, I would totally give up the benefits of smartphones in order to get rid of the drawbacks.
Maybe it's because it was the time of my young adulthood, but I think the 90s was the peak.

[soldiermedic76]

Yeah, it's been pretty downhill since then. Nothing will be as good as Gwen Stefani in the video for 'Don't Speak'. Oh and how the fuck does Blake end up banging both Miranda and Gwen? I'm as big a redneck as him, maybe bigger, and I've never pulled anything at that level.

[Zeb]

Yeah, music was pretty good, style was pretty good. Cars were really good and reliable, but without all the extra bullshit that has been piled on since then. And somehow we managed to meet up with friends and do fun stuff without needing instant communication available at all times.

[soldiermedic76]

I was really thinking how sexy, without being trashy, Gwen looked in that black polka dot dress in the video.

[soldiermedic76]

Oh and the fact that Jennifer Aniston's nipples always seemed to be erect in any outfit she wore on the set of Friends. Did they purposely keep the set to cold when she was scheduled to be in a set (though I didn't see the same for either of the other two).

[Chumby]

Matthew Perry’s are probably stiff now too.

[soldiermedic76]

My question is did he hook up with Selma when they were filming Fools Rush In? If he didn't that would explain the drug use.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

IIRC, she doesn't (thankfully) wear a bra.

[soldiermedic76]

I think I read an interview where she denies this. I think she just has super nips, always at the attention.

[JesseAz]

We don't talk about inflation here.

[Don't look at me!]

Only when it relates to the 10¢ increase in spittin tobaccy.

[Ajsloss]

It's transitory...

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

He the people in 1940s US were better off than the people in 1826

[(Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring]

It's not an accident either. For all their flaws, most of the people we now call the "Robber Barons" genuinely believed that everyone deserved to have some improved standards of living. Henry Ford truly believed that even his lowest level employees ought to be able to afford to buy the products they were assembling.

And this was overwhelmingly the predominant elite consensus up until the concept of the "New World Order" really stated taking hold roughly 30 years ago or so. Now, they have become so arrogant and brazen that they no longer even bother to hide their belief that most of us have it too good and have to accept LOWER standards of living in the future. Every chance they get, guys like Klaus Schwab proudly proclaim that if they have their way most us will own nothing, eat shit, and be grateful that they even allow us to keep on living.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Yeah, some of them don't even want us to keep on living...

“I HOPE THE DEPOPULATION WILL OCCUR IN A CIVIL AND PEACEFUL WAY” – Dennis Meadows…www.weforum.org/people/dennis-meadows

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Well experimental vaccines are civil and mostly peaceful so that's a good start.

[R Mac]

I forget who I was listening to about a year ago and they were talking about the difference now vs back then and how there was honor among the upper class to have their sons serve in the military or other civic duty before getting involved in business and making money. Now they go straight to the grift.

[(Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring]

Rooted in that very old concept of "noblesse oblige", the idea that those of great power and wealth also had a great responsibility to provide as much protection as possible to those less fortunate and powerful who fell under their rule.

[Nelson]

"Henry Ford truly believed that even his lowest level employees ought to be able to afford to buy the products they were assembling."

But he didn't pay them enough to do so, so did he really think that? Or was it just something he liked to say?

It would be more accurate to say he thought it would be nice as long as he didn't have to pay them enough to make it happen.

[soldiermedic76]

Hmmm pretty sure Ford paid far better than his competitors to keep them happy and the unions out... And better than most factories of the time, and far better than the most common career at the time, farming. And he helped create a blue collar middle class that really helped drive the US economy right up until the end of the 1960s/early 1970s.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Dude, that's the entire reason the $5 day ($155 today or about $19.38/h) came about in the first place. He paid more to
1. Get better employees to assemble his products.
2. Retain said employees so they'd stay at his assembly plants.
3. Be able to afford what they assembled, thus creating a bigger market for the products.

[DesigNate]

Even NPR says that talking point is just plain wrong.

https://www.npr.org/2014/01/27/267145552/the-middle-class-took-off-100-years-ago-thanks-to-henry-ford

[R Mac]

Oof.

[Nelson]

I stand corrected. Which makes me a little happy, since my dad was a Detroit homer of the first order. He was appalled that I never (and still have never) owned an American car. But I got my first car in the late 80s, so they just weren't as good as Japanese cars.

[a.heroic.dose]

The Israeli military has a standing policy to kill its own soldiers before letting them fall into captivity (called the Hannibal Directive). It looks a lot like this policy was extended to civilians on October 7. The killing of three Israeli captives, speaking Hebrew and waving a white flag, at the hands of the IDF is, at this point, wholly unsurprising.

[Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf]

You got some cite for that, other than Misek?

[Spiritus Mundi]

Prob the Protocol of the Elders of Zion.

[Nelson]

LOL! Nice!

[Agammamon]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[JesseAz]

Thanks Rep Tlaib. Hope you can learn a few things while you're here.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Got a citation for that, Himmler, or are you just blowing smoke out of your rear ausfarht?

[Sevo]

You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.

[Commenter_XY]

Another heroic dose of bullshit...

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

a anti-heroic dose of bullshit.

[TheReEncogitationer]

So a nation founded as a refuge from Jew-hatred and genocide premeditatedly and deliberately kills it's own?

So why doesn't every Israeli citizen don dynamite vests and blow themselves up right now to avoid being overwhelmed by all of their enemies?

Sounds like someone needs to take "a.heroic.dose" of either brain-enhancing supplements or Arsenic, one or the other.

[I, Woodchipper]

you are like the left wing version of Qanon

[soldiermedic76]

I'm going to go with totally insane made up shit that no one with at least a room temperature IQ will believe but some rando idiot on the Internet uses it to justify antisemitism for $2000, Alex.

[soldiermedic76]

For that being policy, it sure seems like one they ignore, considering the long history of IDF soldiers being taken hostage over the past almost eighty years, including during the current war. Also, they sure do spend a lot trying to free them after caught, you would think if their policy was to kill them, instead of trading prisoners, they would just locate where the captured soldier was being held and bomb it out of existence. Much easier than releasing the enemy to free a soldier your forces were supposed to kill rather than allow to be captured.

When your conspiracy theory is so totally opposite of the facts and history, and you still repeat it, well generally I oppose eugenics but in this case, your post really makes me wonder if certain people should be banned from reproducing to weed out the idiot gene.

[A Cynical Asshole]

So, The Daily Caller's take away here isn't that there was gay sex being filmed in a Senate hearing room, but that it was *gasp!* unprotected gay sex? OK then...

A congressional staffer working for Sen. Ben Cardin (D–Md.) was fired after being linked to a gay sex tape filmed in a Senate hearing room. "It appears to be unprotected sex," reported The Daily Caller.

People getting into the Capitol during a chaotic riot, most of whom just milled about aimlessly for a while, is an existential threat to Our Democracy (TM), but a couple of poofs getting it on in a Senate hearing room is perfectly fine as long they're wearing rubbers.

[Ajsloss]

Hell yeah it's a big deal. We all want a pox on the houses of government, but monkey pox is a little extreme.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland]

The easiest way to eradicate monkey pox was to tell gays to stop having orgies for 2 months. But that was called homophobic.

[Commenter_XY]

It is a symptom of the utter degeneracy of Washington DC, and the people in it.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Bare fake tranny tits on the white house lawn. Cocaine in the cloak room. Butt fucking in senate hearing rooms. Looks like the adults are back in charge. Thanks Reason!

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Yeah, if one considers frat party stuff "adult".

[R Mac]

I was in a fraternity, and coke was rare, and none of that other shit happened.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Let me rephrase that then, Hollywood's idea of a frat party.

[soldiermedic76]

Yeah, Hollywood, where Holstein's are beef cows and men are women.

[R Mac]

Fair.

[Chumby]

Were you on the Duke men’s lacrosse team?

[A Cynical Asshole]

Da fuck?!

"I think you need to ask: 'Does this economic system produce a lot of Dollar Stores?'" said Carlson. "And if it does, it's not a system that you want, because it degrades people and it makes their lives worse and it increases exponentially the amount of ugliness in your society. And anything that increases ugliness is evil….So if it's such a good system, why do we have all these Dollar Stores?"

I knew Tucker Carlson was a moron, but God damn! He's actually complaining about stores that sell cheap goods? What's he do for an encore? Complain about why "the poors" don't just simply make more money so they can afford to shop at Macy's instead?

[Spiritus Mundi]

I think his point was the economy makes more poors, driving up demand for dollar stores.

[Mother's Lament]

Yup, Liz misrepresented it, probably not deliberately because Tucker's points are often long and convoluted, but misrepresented his argument all the same.

His argument is that people relying on Dollar Stores to make ends meet is a symptom of the problem. Not that Dollar Stores themselves are the problem.

[I, Woodchipper]

he's still woefully mistaken here but yeah, that was his point.

[A Cynical Asshole]

So there might be a kernel of a point in there, but that seems like a rather dumb and convoluted way of making it.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

He’s actually complaining about stores that sell cheap goods?

Dollar stores sell their Cheesy-Poofs in smaller packages. As a man of the people Tucker is worried about shrinkflation.

I suggest buying your Cheesy-Poofs in bulk at Costco where this phony inflation hasn't effected prices.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

You wouldn't know anything about cheese pizza shrinkflation, would you?

[Sevo]

turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[R Mac]

My guess is the only person here that eats cheesy poofs is Jeffy. But do you know who does eat cheesy poofs? Children. Now turn yourself in for your crimes pedo.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Why do I get the feeling that watching Pluggo, Jeffy, and those kids would wind up like the chase scene in "Cartman joins NAMBLA"?

[Chumby]

To Catch a Predator

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Trump bemoans record stock market as just making 'rich people richer'
.
Dec 17 (Reuters) - Donald Trump, who predicted three years ago that if Democratic President Joe Biden won the White House in 2020 markets would crash, said on Sunday that stock markets hitting record highs were just making "rich people richer."
.
Trump, the frontrunner for the 2024 Republican nomination, often took credit for a rising stock market when he was president between 2017 and 2021. He was mocked by Biden last week for wrongly predicting a crash when they campaigned against each other in 2020

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-bemoans-record-stock-market-just-making-rich-people-richer-2023-12-18/

Fatass sounds more like Bernie Sanders every day.

[Sevo]

turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Update your gibberish, Sevo. It's gotten stale.

[Sevo]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Fuck off and die, asshole.

[JesseAz]

Truth is never stale.

[Mother's Lament]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Fuck off and die, asshole.

[R Mac]

You were banned for posting kiddie porn.

[Mother's Lament]

As usual, always read Buttplug's article to watch it refute itself folks.

"In an attempt to give a populist and anti-Biden twist on the new record stock market high, Trump, a self-described billionaire, told a crowd of supporters in Reno, Nevada: "The stock market is making rich people richer."

Turning on Biden, he changed the subject to high prices, a hallmark of Biden's three years in office.

"Biden's inflation catastrophe is demolishing your savings and ravaging your dreams," Trump said, as he looks ahead to a likely rematch with Biden in the Nov. 2024 White House contest."

So Pluggo's headline and lead conflate two distinct parts of the speech which are subtly clarified down below.
It's Reuters folks. Like Pluggo, they're just barely avoiding libel suits below the headlines.

[Commenter_XY]

SPB2, dude you realize that when the stock market declines 30% (like the S&P500 did in 2022), you need to make 42% return just to make breakeven? This is basic math.

We ain't even close.

[Sevo]

Hey, stupid piles of lefty shit like turd ain't good for much, but cherry-picking keeps him in dope.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Tell Fatass Donnie that. He is the one bemoaning recent gains.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Got a cite for that, or is that just a lying sack of shit in your pocket?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

It is in the original post you dumb shit - about ten posts up with a link to Reuters.

[Sevo]

turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

You must've posted that with your sticky keyboard.

[Sevo]

turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[creech]

I'm certain that blue collar guy out in the shop is really pissed that his 401k has gone up from $18k to $20k. Trump didn't understand hiring and firing when he "starred" on the Apprentice and he doesn't fully understand wealth building through investments either.

[soldiermedic76]

No, he's unhappy that before $18000 was enough to retire on (it isn't BTW, just using it as an point) but now the $20,000 means he has to keep working long past when he wanted to retire.

[Bill Dalasio]

Carlson's blaming of libertarian economics for the status quo is misguided, to say the least. But, I'll note that so is so much of Reason's libertarian status quo fallacy. The truth is we don't live in a particularly libertarian society. Government intervention in the economy is rampant. And as Wolfe (who's better than much of the staff) alludes, much of the blame for the problems Carlson points to can squarely be blamed on that intervention. And Dollar Stores are an imperfect workaround for at least some of those problems (for the folks noting that they're inexpensive, obviously; but I still doubt you'd be eager to do the bulk of your weekly shopping there). In many regards, we live in a cronyist or fascist economy. Libertarians are under no particular obligation to say things like

Life in the U.S. has gotten better since 1969, when he was born, in clear and measurable ways....liberal democratic scores of countries around the world

In addition to the obvious fact that scores of countries around the world aren't "life in the U.S.", that owes a lot more to the behaviors and decisions of foreign governments to intervene less in their economies than any behavior on our government's part.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah. For instance, libertarians believe in individual freedom of movement. Charles Koch translates that concept into open borders because cheap labor strengthens his position as an elitist oligarch. So that's libertarian economics according to the Reason Foundation. And Tucker sees that as a failure of libertarian economics. Because in the real world a libertarian concept is being exploited by a man who is at the same time endorsing a decidedly unlibertarian neocon for president. We don't have a libertarian economy and Tucker is mistaken if he thinks we do.

[Nelson]

"The truth is we don’t live in a particularly libertarian society."

Compared to where? There isn't a libertarian utopia out there.

"In many regards, we live in a cronyist or fascist economy."

I would argue we have one of the best (if not the best) free market economies on the planet. What do you see as a "more free" market than the US?

Or are you saying that there aren't any free market economies on Earth? They're all fascist?

[Sevo]

"New York Times Forced to Issue Correction After Hunter Biden Story Backlash"
[...]
"“An earlier version of this article misquoted Hunter Biden. He said, ‘My father was not financially involved in my business,’ not, ‘My father was not involved in my business,’" the correction read.
The full quote now reads: “Let me state as clearly as I can: My father was not financially involved in my business -- not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of Burisma, not my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not in my investments at home nor abroad and certainly not as an artist.”
Wow.
The New York Times doctored an exact quote from Hunter Biden to downplay Joe Biden’s involvement in his business..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-york-times-forced-to-issue-correction-after-hunter-biden-story-backlash/ar-AA1lDOO3

Ghost of Duranty?

[JesseAz]

It was just a mistake according to Jeff.

[Sevo]

Pretty sure that steaming pile of lefty shit found the *correction* a mistake.

[Chumby]

An honest faux pas. We need the original NYT editors governing social media content to protect the citizens from misinformation.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Those mistakes always ratchet only one-way.

Show me a time when the NYT made a "mistake" that favored Trump or some Republican.

[Medulla Oblongata]

I could not, would not, on a boat.
I will not, will not, with a goat.
Not in the dark! Not in a tree!
Not in a car! You let me be!

[Nobartium]

You mean nothing. You are a consumer, not a human being or a citizen.

This is 100% how modern corporate executives view their customers.

[Sevo]

I'm sure you know many corporate executives.

[Nobartium]

The psychological profile of executives have been collected. Overwhelming signs of sociopathy.

[R Mac]

What studies? What size of corporation? My business is incorporated, technically I’m a corporate executive. My wife works directly below a corporate executive, and he’s not a sociopath either.

[soldiermedic76]

I've seen this study misquoted a lot of time by leftists. What the study actually concluded was that there was a higher proportion of sociopaths in the ranks of CEOs not that they tend to be sociopaths. I do believe it's been one of those studies that the results have not been able to be replicated, like a lot of the social science studies people love to misquote to further an agenda. Generally speaking, sociopaths tend to actually not achieve high levels of success, despite generally being highly intelligent. The inability to empathize and thus maintain human relationships tends to limit their career success.

[soldiermedic76]

A lot of being a successful business person, especially as you advance is managing people and building relationships. Getting buy in. These are skills that sociopaths can fake for a little while but tend to fail long term.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Ignoring the thousands of corporate executives, particularly those who own and operate small-business corporations, often see their employees as family, work more hours than any employee, forego income so that they can make payrolls, and agonize over downturn that might mean letting people go.

[DesigNate]

Fucking this^

[Nelson]

"This is 100% how modern corporate executives view their customers."

Probably because the point of a corporation is to sell things to people, not validate them as human beings and citizens.

It's like complaining that your plumber won't give you a root canal. That's not what a plumber does.

[Fats of Fury]

https://nypost.com/2023/12/17/news/car-barrels-into-parked-suv-part-of-bidens-motorcade-as-president-leaves-campaign-headquarters/

Car barrels into part of Biden’s motorcade as Secret Service hurries president into SUV.

Biden shit's his pants but that had nothing to do with the accident.

[JesseAz]

If it had been a white guy shrike would be on here talking up MAGA assassination attempts.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Honestly, I'm a bit sick of these motorcades. The President is a mere citizen, and as far as I'm concerned, he can sit in traffic with the rest of us.

[Chumby]

I thought the pro-green Biden admin had eschewed use of SUVs due to their danger to the climate.

[Eeyore]

Seriously, it should be an all electric fleet of compacts and sub-compacts.

[Don't look at me!]

Bicycles.

[Chumby]

Remember when they tried that?

Gravity 1
Biden 0

[Don't look at me!]

I demand a rematch!

[Eeyore]

With an electric bicycle.

[Sevo]

"A Mayor’s Race-Based Holiday Party Brings Unapologetic Segregation to Beantown"
[...]
"Segregation in any form, separating people based solely on the color of their skin, is wrong. No ambiguity; no context needed.
But this kind of repugnant racial divide is still being carried out in 2023 by some of our elected officials. Exhibit A just occurred in Boston, where Democratic Mayor Michelle Wu decided it was a great idea to host an "Elected of Color Holiday Party" that excluded the seven white members of Boston’s 13-member city council. The only reason the public knows about this party is because the white members were accidentally invited, per a follow-up email sent 15 minutes after the original went out..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-mayor-s-race-based-holiday-party-brings-unapologetic-segregation-to-beantown/ar-AA1lCXgU?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ba1c64ca0b664769ac530aaeb990287a&ei=22

[Don't look at me!]

Skin color is the most important thing

[Medulla Oblongata]

I don't begrudge them their little segregated soiree , but I've laughed at the excuses made when in my head I envision people who had an all-white party using the exact same words to justify their separatism.

[Fats of Fury]

Wu was just following Boston's Jamal Crow laws. Soon there will be separate Elected-Of-Color and white drinking fountains.

[Super Scary]

"Excited to announce v(1.0) of Digi, the future of AI Romantic Companionship, for IOS and Android"

I feel like I could make any number of Blade Runner 2049 references, but I'll just link a clip of the most relevant scene - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfrgOB_Mp1Y&ab_channel=Sci-FiPunisher

[Dillinger]

>>"It appears to be unprotected sex," reported The Daily Caller.

that's the rub?

[Dillinger]

>>Didn't the TV show Archer already invent this, years ago?

nothing on Archer is new to Archer

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Weird Hat religion gets with the times:

Pope says priests can bless same-sex couples, a radical change in Vatican policy
A document from the Vatican’s doctrine office, released Monday, insists that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.

NBC News

[Sevo]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

[Chumby]

Did you used to be a Catholic priest until you were later excused?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

I was born an atheist but you found Denny Hastert conservatism on your own volition.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

So, Pluggo, what's the going rate for a photo of a pizza nowadays?

[Sevo]

The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[Chumby]

Why did you cosplay Hastert and post links to cp material here?

[Mother's Lament]

"I was born an atheist""

You weren't "born". You either hatched from some fly eggs or mold spores.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Maggots at least have some use. He's probably hatched from a mold spore.

[Fats of Fury]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pope-francis-approves-blessings-for-same-sex-couples-if-the-rituals-don-t-resemble-marriage/ar-AA1lGnap?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1bda2371ae984882afa26841b9a98d06&ei=48

The Pope sends his blessings to Aidan Maese-Czeropski and friend.

[I, Woodchipper]

Canada just announced that, by 2035, it will require all new vehicles sold in the country to be zero-emissions.

2034 will be a banner year for car sales then.

[Dillinger]

>>'You mean nothing. You are a consumer, not a human being or a citizen.'

pops was with Maytag I can anecdata this as reality to some.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

I heard he was the loneliest guy ever.

[I, Woodchipper]

An Intelligencer investigation helped to uncover a massive COVID-19 testing scam.

This is my shocked face.

[Dillinger]

>> Watch on X

missing dos equis there ...

[Thomas L. Knapp]

"The 'lack of control over where you live' is a total fable"

And also one that, so far as I can tell, he has no problem with if it's about control over people deciding to live on one side or the other of the US/Mexico border.

[DesigNate]

Borders matter, just ask Ukraine and Israel.

[Thomas L. Knapp]

Overgrown street gangs care deeply about the sanctity of their turf lines? Who knew?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2]

Atlanta woman gets life in prison for chasing down hit-and-run driver and killing him:

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/trials/hannah-payne-sentenced-murder-kenneth-herring/85-8bc93d0e-c141-457c-bb75-76b97916f68e

Soros is right - overzealous prosecutors are a big problem.

[Sevo]

turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

On May 7, 2019, Payne followed Herring after witnessing a crash where Herring reportedly hit a semi-truck on Clark Howell Highway near I-285. Herring reportedly then left the scene of the crash, but police said Payne followed and confronted Herring, demanding he return to the crash site. Though she called 911 to report a supposed hit-and-run, she ultimately shot and killed him.

Police said no one was hurt during the accident, and there wasn't extensive damage. In testimonies from detectives from 2019, a witness revealed Herring appeared to be in the middle of a medical emergency. Detectives said witnesses described the emergency as "like diabetic shock."

Overzealous, my ass. It was a simple hit and run crash where the police typically followup with the offender. No one was killed or even seriously injured in the original crash. Payne took it upon herself to play vigilante and kill someone over it. She earned what she got.

[Sevo]

Well, turd lies.

[JFree]

Nonetheless, Israeli soldiers made a profound mistake, which is being criticized by both Israelis and the rest of the world.

Hard hitting truth-to-power news coverage from war in the Middle East! Now Reason can pivot back to what's happening on college campuses in the US so commenters can get the full picture of a 'libertarian' response to a war.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Nah. We need more Florida articles.

[JFree]

Myths of the Boston Tea Party

[Don't look at me!]

Eliminating the taxes would have solved the “no taxation without representation “ problem, a tax cut did not.

[JFree]

I'm certain the propertarians here would have reacted the same as George Washington.

[Don't look at me!]

Go on….

[soldiermedic76]

What makes Washington great/unique isn't what he did as general or as president. It was what he didn't do, he voluntarily gave up power twice. At the end of the Revolution he could have had himself declared King (and the British fully expected him too) and several of his officers encouraged him to. He didn't he resigned his commission and returned home. At the end of his second term as President he again voluntarily left office (he could have been president for life and was offered that) but he instead left office voluntarily and went back to being a private citizen. To bad most kids today only know him as a slave owning rich white guy.

[Nelson]

Right? It always annoyed me that the story everyone talks about that speaks to his integrity is the cherry tree.

The way he behaved as a leader and a man who lived his principles is something everyone should strive to emulate.

[soldiermedic76]

Cutting the taxes didn't solve the underlying problem that the colonists saw themselves, and for the most part had been led to believe, they were full British citizens and therefore taxes could not be inflicted without representation in Parliament. The size of the tax was immaterial, it was the fact that Parliament implented a tax without the consent of the colonies. Prior to these acts, Parliament would request funds from the various colonies who then voted for them in their colonial assemblies and the colonial government was in charge of collecting them. Parliament was clear that these acts were not only to raise income but to force the colonists tighter under parliamentary control without offering them representation in Parliament. Instead of treating the colonies as free English citizens, they instead were trying to treat them as colonial subjects, contrary to the charters establishing the colonies (which had been passed by Parliament and approved by the crown). The size of the tax was completely immaterial. It was Parliament's actions that violated English Common Law and the Constitution and the colonial charters. Which if you read the writings at the time was made perfectly clear in the colonists letters of protests to these acts.

[soldiermedic76]

Also, calling them anti-British colonists shows Smithsonian's attempt at explaining the myths, is in itself also furthering the myth. In 1773, you would meet very few, if any colonists who wouldn't call themselves British, especially among the Sons of Liberty. Calling them anti-British is a complete misunderstanding of the movement. Objections to internal taxes was a long held tradition in England. For example internal taxes were some of the leading causes of such noted events as the Barons Revolt that lead to the Magna Carta, the Peasants Revolt, the forced abdication of Edward the II, the successful deposing of Richard the II, the English Civil War etc. What the colonists did was not something new in British history, what was new was what happened in 1776, when they declared independence.

[soldiermedic76]

Okay, maybe some of Irish or non-british ancestry (Dutch or German being the two largest in the free population) may have considered themselves not British but even in these populations the general feeling was that they were British citizens. When the Revolution broke out, a large number of those who remained loyal to the crown came from the Dutch/German, Irish and Scottish populations. So, the evidence would suggest even these 'non-British' populations viewed themselves as British.

[JFree]

Whether they considered themselves British or not, they all understood that the representation rights they were claiming were not really British.

They had no interest in being represented in a rotten Parliament. Much like the US House today, the Parliament was frozen at 405 members and had been so frozen for 100+ years. And it had no liberal/individual notions of representation until 1832.

The colonial charters had all had different rights/means of governance. Each major denomination had its own preference for church governance which then drove their preference for civic governance. Very early on (in the case of the Mayflower Compact before they even got off the ship) the colonists were practically independent and practicing those self-governing skills. They were not British.

But European wars crossed the Atlantic which resulted in revoking those charters into crown colonies with appointed officials. Restoring a de facto independence - prior to the colonial charters reverting to crown colony status - was what they wanted.

[Bowerick Wowbagger]

The populist right is getting worse by the day.

[Mother's Lament]

How so, and what makes them right wing?

[BYODB]

And yet, it's still somehow less awful than the populist left.

[Nelson]

All populists are equally bad. It's like claiming the Communist authoritarians were worse than the Nazi authoritarians. Left and right don't matter when the underlying behavior is the problem (and exactly the same).

[Use the Schwartz]

IME it is a common rhetorical trick to take a byproduct of the current system and blame its existence on external factors.

Tuck is doing the same thing regardless of his "reasoning." We should be flattered Though, who knew that libertarianism was a big enough threat to republicans.

p.s. It isn't.

[Mother's Lament]

Tucker didn't. As I said above, Liz is misrepresenting what he said. Probably not deliberately because Tucker's points are convoluted.
I've realized that most people here are like Buttplug with a hot new link. They don't review the source.

[mad.casual]

It feels a bit like progressive or liberal technocratic optimism.

Lots of works of the cyberpunk genre are decent examples of this optimism, where the plot will be set in a very noir setting but, because it's not raining and everything takes place in the daylight, it doesn't count as 'dark'. Neighborhoods will be federated to the point of block/gang wars, women, girls, will routinely wear chastity devices to avoid rape, AOE weapons/guided munitions will be routinely used by civilians on each other to the detriment of bystanders, police will be hamstrung by bureaucracy of the federated neighborhoods, etc., etc. but someone who feels like a transvisible pink unicorn in real life can have their lived experiences (not) as a transvisible pink unicorn validated by a virtual plane of existence where they can identify as an "actual" transvisible pink unicorn and no one can know otherwise. So, despite all the actual violation of every last tenet of libertarianism and the norms underpinning it, because intentions and imagination, everything in the future is A-OK.

[mtrueman]

A list of Israeli military deaths since the Al Aqsa Flood, thanks to Times of Israel:

Col. (res.) Lion Bar, 53, a retired senior officer in the Judea and Samaria Division, from Gedera.
Lt. Col. Tomer Grinberg, 35, the commander of the Golani Brigade’s 13th Battalion, from Almog.
Lt. Col. Sahar Zion Machlof, 36, the commander of the 481st Signal Battalion, from Modiin.
Lt. Col. Yonatan Tzur, 33, the commander of the Nahal Reconnaissance Battalion, from Kedumim.
Lt. Col. Eli Ginsberg, 42, commander of the LOTAR counter-terrorism unit, from Dovrat.
Lt. Col. Alim Abdallah, 40, the deputy commander of the 300th “Baram” Regional Brigade, from Yanuh-Jat.
Lt. Col. Meidan Israel, 35, head of supply in the Southern Command, from Yarhiv.
Lt. Col. Salman Habaka, 33, the commander of the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Yanuh-Jat.
Lt. Col. (res.) Yochai Gur Hershberg, 52, the commander of a unit in the 98th Division tasked with locating missing persons, from Havat Philip.
Maj. Roei Meldasi, 23, a company commander in the Golani Brigade’s 13th Battalion, from Afula.
Maj. Moshe Avram Bar On, 23, a company commander in the Golani Brigade’s 51st Battalion, from Ra’anana.
Maj. Ben Shelly, 26, a squad commander in the Israeli Air Force’s Unit 669, from Kidron.
Maj. Jamal Abbas, 23, a company commander in the Paratroopers Brigade’s 101st Battalion, from Peki’in
Maj. Isachar Natan, 28, of the Commando Brigade, from Kiryat Malachi.
Maj. (res.) Moshe Yedidyah Leiter, 39, a company commander in the 551st Brigade’s 697th Battalion, from Ein Tzurim.
Maj. Yehuda Natan Cohen, 25, a commander in the Givati Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Shadmot Mehola.
Maj. Yair Zloof, 32, commander of the 401st Armored Brigade’s surgical company, from Tel Mond.
Maj. (res.) Noy Shosh, 36, a local security officer, from Be’eri.
Maj. (res.) Ofir Erez, 57, a local security officer, from Sufa.
Maj. (res.) Uri Shimon Russo, 44, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Maj. Benjamin (Benji) Trakeniski, 32, head of operations in the 7th Armored Brigade.
Maj. Chen Buchris, 26, the deputy commander of Maglan, from Ashdod.
Maj. Amir Skuri, 31, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Maj. Ariel Ben Moshe, 27, a Sayeret Matkal commander, from Kiryat Bialik.
Maj. Avraham Hovlashvili, 26, an officer in Carcal, from Ashdod.
Maj. Ido Yehoshua, 27, an Israeli Air Force instructor, from Ayelet HaShahar.
Maj. (res.) Omri Michaeli, 35, a Duvdevan soldier, from Nes Tziona.
Maj. Peleg Salem, 30, a logistics officer, from Netanya.
Maj. Ido Yisrael Shani, 29, the deputy commander of the Nahal reconnaissance unit, from Ramat Gan.
Maj. (res.) Ram Negbi, 57, a local security officer, from Ein Hashlosha.
Maj. Roi Chapel, 25, a Nahal commander, from Zichron Yaakov.
Maj. Tal Cohen, 30, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Ganei Tal.
Maj. Mordecai Shamir, 29, an officer in the Infantry Corps, from Yakir.
Maj. (res.) Eitan Menachem Ne’eman, 44, a combat medic in the 551st Brigade, from Tene.
Maj. (res.) Oren Stern, 49, a local security officer, from Netiv Ha’asara.
Maj. Uriel Bibi, 30, a Paratrooper officer, from Shlomit.
Maj. Ilay Zisser, 27, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Givat Olga.
Maj. Ido Hubara, 36, a soldier in the 401st Armored Brigade, from Sufa.
Maj. (res.) Chen Yahalom, 35, an officer in the Artillery Corps’s 8159th Battalion, from Kfar Azar.
Maj. (res.) Eviatar Cohen, 42, of the 5th Brigade’s 8111st Battalion, from Kfar Saba.
Maj. Gal Becher, 34, of the 36th Division, from Oranit.
Maj. (res.) Roman Bronshtein, 46, of the 5th Brigade’s 8111th Battalion, from Bat Yam.
Cpt. Liel Hayo, 22, a platoon commander in the Golani Brigade’s 51st Battalion, from Shoham.
Cpt. Yarin Gahali, 22, a platoon commander in the Givati Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Rehovot.
Cpt. (res.) Netanel Silberg, 33, a team commander in the Combat Engineering Corps’ Yahalom unit, from Na’ama.
Cpt. (res.) Eliya Yanovsky, 24, of the 5th Brigade’s 8111th Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Cpt. Yahel Gazit, 24, a deputy company commander in the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Rakefet.
Cpt. Eitan Fisch, 23, of the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Peduel.
Cpt. Liron Snir, 25, a team commander in the Golani Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Ofra.
Cpt. (res.) Arnon Moshe Avraham Benvenisti Vaspi, 26, an officer of the Givati Brigade’s Reconnaissance Battalion, from Yesud HaMa’ala.
Cpt. (res.) Roey Biber, 28, a team commander in the Combat Engineering Corps’ Yahalom unit, from Tzur Moshe.
Cpt. Eden Provisor, 21, a platoon commander in the 401st Armored Brigade’s 52nd Battalion, from Alfei Menashe.
Cpt. Shlomo Ben Nun, 22, a deputy company commander in the Paratrooper’s 202nd Battalion, from Modiin.
Cpt. Asaf Master, 22, a platoon commander in the 401st Brigade’s 601st Battalion, from Kibbutz Bahan.
Cpt. Kfir Itzhak Franco, 22, a platoon commander in the 401st Brigade’s 52nd Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Cpt. Beni Wais, 22, a commander in the 460th Armored Brigade, from Haifa.
Cpt. (res.) Adi Bahrav Rabinovich, 62, a local security officer, from Netiv Ha’asara.
Cpt. (res.) Yaakov Nadlin, 36, a combat soldier in the Samaria Brigade from Or Akiva.
Cpt. (res.) Elhanan Meir Klemenzon, 41, an officer in the Judea and Samaria Division, from Otniel.
Cpt. Adir Ovadi, 23, a commander in the Home Front Command, from Modiin.
Cpt. Sagi Golan, 30, a LOTAR commander, from Raanana.
Cpt. Yotam Ben Bassat, 24, a commander in the Multidomain Unit, from Bat Hefer.
Cpt. Aryeh Shlomo Ziering, 27, an Oketz officer, from Raanana.
Cpt. Tal Grushka, 25, a Nahal officer, from Kfar Saba.
Cpt. (res) Roi Nagri, 28, a LOTAR unit commander, from Tel Aviv.
Cpt. (res.) Meir David Haim, 31, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Cpt. Raz Peretz, 24, a Golani commander, from Afula.
Cpt. Hadar Kama, 24, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Givat Shapira.
Cpt. Ben Bronstein, 24, a Duvdevan soldier, from Holon.
Cpt. (res.) Yuval Halivni, 30, a soldier in the 551st Brigade, from Ramat Gan.
Cpt. Shilo Har-Even, 25, a Golani soldier, from Almon.
Cpt. (res.) Amir Naim, 27, a Combat Engineering officer, from Erez.
Cpt. (res.) Avraham Hananel Hindi, 37, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Cpt. Guy Admoni, 25, an intelligence officer, from Kfar Aza.
Cpt. Ron Zarfati, 22, an officer in the Air Force’s air traffic control unit, from Hadera.
Cpt. (res.) Omri Yosef David, 27, a deputy company commander in the Negev Brigade’s 9217th Battalion, from Carmiel.
Cpt. Yedidya Asher Lev, 26, a deputy company commander in the Givati Brigade’s Shaked Battalion, from Tal Menashe.
Cpt. (res.) Adir Portugal, 23, an officer of the Givati Infantry Brigade’s Shaked Battalion, from Mazkeret Batya.
Cpt. Or Moses, 22, a commander in the Home Front Command, from Ashdod.
Cpt. Sahar Saudyan, 21, an instructor in the air defense array, from Rosh Haayin.
Lt. (res.) Yuval Zilber, 25, a commander in the Jerusalem Brigade, from Ramat Gan.
Lt. Pedayah Mark, 22, a Givati soldier, from Otniel.
Lt. Ariel Reich, 24, a soldier in in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Jerusalem.
Lt. Dor Sade, 22, a Givati soldier, from Arugot.
Lt. Yiftah Yaabetz, 23, a commander in Maglan, from Ramat Hasharon.
Lt. Menashe Yoav Maliev, 19, an officer in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Kiryat Ono.
Lt. Amitay Zvi Granot, 24, a commander in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Tel Aviv.
Lt. (res.) Maor Refael Shalom, 47, who served in a non-IDF unit, from Arugot.
Lt. Or Yosef Ran, 29, a commander in Duvdevan, from Itamar.
Lt. (res.) Ido Edri, 24, an infantry officer, from Givaton.
Lt. Shilo Cohen, 24, a Shaldag soldier, from Sderot.
Lt. Shoham Tomer, 23, a Nahal officer, from Srigim.
Lt. Itay Maor, 23, a Golani officer, from Rosh Haayin.
Lt. Rom Shlomi, 23, a Shalgad officer, from Ganot.
Lt. Itay Cohen, 22, a Yahalom commander, from Rehovot.
Lt. Nitai Omer, a Combat Engineering officer 22, from Alumim.
Lt. Alina Pravosudova, 23, a Home Front Command officer, from Haifa.
Lt. Eden Nimri, 22, a commander in the Artillery Corps’ drone unit.
Lt. Dekel Suisa, 21, a Golani commander, from Bar Giora.
Lt. Ori Mordecai Shany, 22, a Golani commander, from Kiryat Arba.
Lt. Eyal Klein, 22, a Nahal soldier, from Kfar Harif.
Lt. Amir Tzur, 23, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Lt. Ilay Adani, 21, a Maglan soldier, from Tel Mond.
Lt. Shilo Rochberger, 23, a Golani commander, from Eli.
Lt. Idan Baloy, 21, a Golani signals officer, from Rishon Lezion.
Lt. Shir Eilat, 20, a commander in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Kfar Shmuel.
Lt. Roi Nahari, 23, a Paratroopers officer, from Ora.
Lt. Omer Wolf, 22, a Golani commander, from Givat Haim.
Lt. Nave Elazar Lax, 21, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Lod.
Lt. Nethanel Menachem Eitan, 22, a cadet in the Bahad 1 officers’ school’s Gefen Battalion, and a soldier in the Air Force’s Unit 669, from Jerusalem.
Lt. Yonatan Goutin, 20, a signals officer in the Multidomain Unit, from Modiin.
Lt. Yannai Kaminka, 20, a commander in the Home Front Command, from Tzur Hadassah.
Lt. Adar Ben Simon, 20, a commander in the Home Front Command, from Neve Ziv.
Lt. Yuval Yafe, 21, an officer in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Tzofit.
Lt. Yohai Dukhan, 26, a Golani commander, from Kiryat Arba.
Lt. Sahar Tal, 20, an intelligence officer in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Tzora.
Warrant Officer (res.) Yehezkel Azaria, 53, of the 8th Armored Brigade’s 129th Battalion, from Petah Tikva.
Warrant Officer Ido Rosenthal, 45, a Shaldag soldier, from Beit Shean.
Warrant Officer (res.) Avraham Fleischer, 63, a local security officer, from Magen.
Warrant Officer (res.) Gil Boyum, 55, a local security officer, from Be’eri.
Warrant Officer (res.) Amit Wachs, 48, a local security officer, from Netiv Haasara.
Warrant Officer Ziv Dado, 36, a logistics supervisor in the Golani Brigade, from Rehovot.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Gideon Ilani, 35, of the 55th Reserve Paratroopers Brigade’s 2855th Battalion, from Asa’el.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Etay Perry, 36, of the 5th Brigade’s 8111st Battalion, from Modiin.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Kobi Dvash, 41, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 271st Battalion, from Tiberias. Dvash was killed in southern Gaza.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Neriya Shaer, 36, of the 55th Reserve Paratroopers Brigade’s 6655th Battalion, from Yavne.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Yossi Hershkovitz, 44, a soldier in the 551st Brigade’s 697th Battalion, from Gevaot.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Yiftah Gurni, 51, a local security officer, from Be’er Milka.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Abraham Gabriel Korin, 56, a local security officer, from Holit.
Sgt. Maj. Ibrahim Kharuba, 39, a tracker in the Gaza Division, from Maghar.
Sgt. Maj. Aharon Farash, 36, a logistics NCO, from Ofakim
Sgt. Maj. Salman Ibn Marai, 41, a tracker in the Gaza Divison, from Segev Shalom.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Reuven Shishportish, 36, a local security officer, from Shlomit.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Ilan Fiorentino, 38, a local security officer, from Nahal Oz.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Aviad Gad Cohen, 41, a soldier in the Etzioni Brigade, from Shlomit.
Sgt. Maj. Gil Avital, 56, a local security officer, from Yesha.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Tal Eilon, 46, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Eitan Hadad, 43, a local security officer, from Be’eri.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Ofir Mordechai Yaron, 51, a local security officer, from Magen.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Boaz Abraham, 61, a local security officer, from Nir Yitzhak.
Sgt. Major (res.) Aviv Baram, 33, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Hagay Avni, 50, a local security officer, from Be’eri.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Gil Pishitz, 39, a soldier in the 401st Armored Brigade, from Harish.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Rani Tahan, 40, an operations sergeant of the 261st Reserve Brigade’s 8717th Battalion from Sde Nehemia.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Saar Margolis, 37, a local security officer, from Kissufim.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Adi Shani, 39, of the 6036th logistics unit’s patrol company, from Tzur Yitzhak.
Sgt. Maj. (res.) Jonathan David Deitch, 34, of the 55th Brigade’s 6623rd Reconnaissance Battalion, from Harish.
Master Sgt. (res.) Joseph Avner Doran, 26, of the combat mobility Unit 444, who served in the Navy’s Shayetet 13, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Elisha Loewenstern, 38, of the 179th Reserve Armored Brigade’s 8104th Battalion, from Harish.
Master Sgt. (res.) Tzvika Lavi, 30, of the 551st Brigade’s 699th Battalion, from Eli.
Master Sgt. (res.) Ari Yehiel Zenilman, 32, of the 5th Brigade’s 8111th Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Liav Atiya, 25, of the 55th Brigade’s 6623rd Battalion, from Beersheba.
Master Sgt. (res.) Omri Ben Shachar, 25, of the 55th Brigade’s 6623rd Battalion, from Givatayim.
Master Sgt. (res.) Naftali Yonah Gordon, 32, of the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Eyal Meir Berkowitz, 28, of the 551st Brigade’s 699th Battalion, from Jerusalem. Berkowitz was killed in northern Gaza.
Master Sgt. (res.) Matan Damari, 31, a squad commander in the 215th Artillery Regiment’s reconnaissance company, from Dimona.
Master Sgt. (res.) Ilay Eliyahu Cohen, 23, of the 551st Brigade’s 7008th Battalion, from Beit Nehemia.
Master Sgt. (res.) Gil Daniels, 34, of the 261st Brigade’s 6261st Battalion, from Ashdod.
Master Sgt. (res.) Yakir Biton, 34, of the 261st Reserve Brigade’s 8717th Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) David (Dudi) Digmi, 43, a paramedic in the Gaza Division, from Rishon Lezion.
Master Sgt. (res.) Raz Abulafia, 27, of the 12th Brigade’s 6863rd Battalion, from Rishpon.
Master Sgt. (res.) Dov Moshe Kogan, 32, a Shaldag soldier, from Nov.
Master Sgt. (res.) Eliahou Benjamin Elmakayes, 29, a combat engineering soldier, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Naaran Eshchar, 33, of the 181st Armored Brigade’s 71st Battalion, from Shadmot Mehola.
Master Sgt. Lior Arazi, 25, a combat medic in Shaldag, from Givat Haim-Ihud.
Master Sgt. (res.) Uriah Mash, 41, a soldier in the 401st Armored Brigade, from Talmon.
Master Sgt. (res.) Yehonatan Yosef Brand 28, a soldier in the 401st Armored Brigade, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Arie Kraunik, 54, a local security officer, from Be’eri.
Master Sgt. (res.) Itay Yehoshua, 36, a member of the General Staff Security Unit.
Master Sgt. (res.) Ran Poslushni, 48, a local security officer, from Nahal Oz.
Master Sgt. (res.) Nadav Amikam, 39, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Master Sgt. (res.) Ofir Libstein, the head of the Shaar Hanegev regional council and a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Master Sgt. (res.) Ido Keslasi, 23, a Maglan soldier, from Harel.
Master Sgt. (res.) Shachar Aviani, 56, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Master Sgt. (res.) Tal Maman, 38, a local security officer, from Mivtahim.
Master Sgt. (res.) Lior Ben Yaakov, 44, a local security officer, from Yesha.
Master Sgt. (res.) Yuval Gabai, 35, of Samaria Brigade’s 8109th Battalion, from Rehovot.
Master Sgt. (res.) Israel Amichai Witzen, 33, a local security officer, from Kerem Shalom.
Master Sgt. (res.) Yaron Victor Shahar, 51, a local security officer, from Nir Yitzhak.
Master Sgt. (res.) Behor Sweid, 32, a local security officer, from Shlomit.
Master Sgt. (res.) Liran Mons Almosnino, 42, a soldier in the Paran Regional Brigade, from Kmehin.
Master Sgt. (res.) Noam Slotki, 31, a combat medic in the Carmeli Brigade, from Jerusalem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Shachar Tzemach, 39, a local security officer from Be’eri.
Master Sgt. (res.) Dan Asulin, 38, a local security officer, from Mivtahim.
Master Sgt. (res.) Shachaf Bergstein, 33, a local security officer, from Kfar Aza.
Master Sgt. (res.) Matan Meir, 38, a soldier in the 551st Brigade’s 697th Battalion, from Odem.
Master Sgt. (res.) Sergey Shmerkin, 32, a soldier in the 551st Brigade’s 697th Battalion, from Kiryat Shmona.
Master Sgt. (res.) Netanel (Nati) Harush, 34, a soldier in the Givati Brigade’s logistics unit.
Master Sgt. (res.) Tomer Shlomo Myara, 28, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 710th Battalion, from Netanya.
Master Sgt. (res.) Gal Meir Eisenkot, 25, of the 551st Brigade’s 699th Battalion, from Herzliya.
Master Sgt. (res.) Etan Naeh, 26, of the Commando Brigade’s Duvdevan Unit, from Sde Eliyahu.
Master Sgt. (res.) Tal Filiba, 23, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ Yahalom unit, from Rehovot.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Omri Rot, 25, a tank commander in the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Katzrin.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Lidor Yosef Karavani, 23, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 8163rd Battalion, from Eilat.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Maor Gershoni, 24, of the 6th Brigade’s 8173rd Battalion, from Yokne’am Illit.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Yehonatan Malka, 23, of the 7th Armored Brigade’s 82nd Battalion, from Beersheba.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Shalev Zaltsman, 24, of the 55th Reserve Paratroopers Brigade’s 6623rd Battalion, from Ramat Yishai.
Sgt. First Class Liav Aloush, 21, of the Commando Brigade’s Duvdevan Unit, from Gedera.
Sgt. First Class Urija Bayer, 20, of the Commando Brigade’s Maglan Unit, from Ma’alot-Tarshiha.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Ben Zussman, 22, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 601st Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Yaacov Ozeri, 28, a soldier in 401st Armored Brigade’s 52nd Battalion, from Kfar Shamai.
Sgt. First Class Jonathan Chazor, 22, a Shaldag soldier, from Katzir.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Shalev Zion Sharabi, 22, a combat medic in the 749th Battalion of the Bislamach Brigade, from Teneh Omarim.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Yinon Fleishman, 31, a soldier in the 188th Armored Brigade, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Hayim Yeshurun Katsman, 32, head of a local security team, from Holit.
Sgt. First Class, Itai Yehuda Bausi, 22, a Duvdevan soldier, from Kvutzat Yavne.
Sgt. First Class Amir Fisher, 22, a Duvdevan soldier, from Tel Aviv.
Sgt. First Class Vitaly Shipkevich, 21, an Egoz soldier, from Ariel.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Tomer Dolev. 34, a Home Front Command soldier, from Ashkelon.
Sgt. First Class Imri Belkin, 25, a LOTAR instructor, from Ramat Hasharon.
Sgt. First Class Yosef Malachi Guedalia, 22, a Duvdevan soldier, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. First Class Jawad Amar, 23, commander of firing zone 150, from Hurfeish.
Sgt. First Class Gilad Molcho, 33, an Egoz soldier, from Tel Aviv.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Avichai Amsalem, 30, a soldier in the 551st Brigade, from Hadera.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Yedidya Moshe Raziel, 31, a local security officer, from Kerem Shalom.
Sgt. First Class Adam Agmon, 21, a commander at the School for Infantry Corps Professions and Squad Commanders, from Kamon.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Itay Shlomo Morenu, 24, a Maglan soldier, from Aderet.
Sgt. First Class Yishai Slotki, 24, a soldier in the Oded Brigade, from Beersheba.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Daniel Kastiel, 24, a Maglan soldier, from Bet Shemesh.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Elhanan Klein, 29, a soldier in the Efraim Regional Brigade, from Einav.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Yedidya Eliyahu, 25, a Combat Engineering Corps soldier, from Karnei Shomron.
Sgt. First Class Aviel Melkamu, 21, an Egoz soldier, from Kiryat Ata.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Or Brandes, 25, of the 7th Armored Brigade’s 82nd Battalion, from Shoham.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Ofek Arazi, 28, a local security officer, from Nir Yitzhak.
Sgt. First Class Rom Hecht, 20, of the Israeli Air Force’s Unit 669, from Givatayim.
Sgt. First Class (res.) Shay Uriel Pizem, 23, a tank commander in the 401st Armored Brigade’s 9th Battalion, from Ein HaNatziv.
Staff Sgt. Amit Bonzel, 22, of the Paratroopers Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Shoham.
Staff Sgt. Alemnew Emanuel Feleke, 22, of the Commando Brigade’s Duvdevan unit, from Kiryat Gat.
Staff Sgt. Tuval Yaakov Tsanani, 20, of the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Kiryat Gat.
Staff Sgt. Tomer Yaakov Ahimas, 20, a signals soldier for the Gaza Division’s Southern Brigade chief, from Lehavim.
Staff Sgt. Dvir Barazani, 20 of the Paratroopers Brigade’s 890th Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Eitan Dov Rosenzweig, 21, of the Givati Brigade’s Shaked Battalion, from Alot Shvut.
Staff Sgt. Gal Mishaelof, 21, a soldier of the Givati Infantry Brigade’s Tzabar Battalion, from Modiin
Staff Sgt. Shlomo Gurtovnik, 21, a combat medic in the 401st Armored Brigade’s 46th Battalion, from Modiin.
Staff Sgt. Adi Malik Harb, 19, of the Nahal Infantry Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Beit Jann.
Staff Sgt. Shachar Fridman, 21, of the Paratroopers Brigade’s 101st Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Roee Marom, 21, a squad commander in the Bislamach Brigade’s 906th Battalion, from Ra’anana.
Staff Sgt. Itay Shoham, 21, of the Commando Brigade, from Rosh Ha’ayin
Staff Sgt. Yehonatan Yitzhak Semo, 21, of the Paratrooper’s 202nd Battalion, from Karmei Zur.
Staff Sgt. Gilad Rozenblit, 21, a combat medic in the 401st Armored Brigade’s 52nd Battalion, from Ginegar.
Staff Sgt. Aschalwu Sama, 20, of the Nahal Brigade’s 932nd Battalion, from Petah Tikva.
Staff Sgt. Noam Yosef Abou, 20, of the Nahal Brigade’s 931st Battalion, from Dimona.
Staff Sgt. Shahar Cohen Mivtach, 22, a soldier in the 401st Armored Brigade, from Karmiel.
Staff Sgt. Gilad Nehemya Nitzan, 21, a soldier in the Givati Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Shilo.
Staff Sgt. Yonadav Raz Levenstein, 23, a soldier in the Givati Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Eilat.
Staff Sgt. Yam Glass, 20, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Modiin
Staff Sgt. Itay Saadon, 21, a tank commander in the 401st Armored Brigade, from Har Halutz.
Staff Sgt. Yair Nifousy, 20, a Paratrooper, from Adi.
Staff Sgt. Itay Avraham Ron, 20, a Golani soldier, from Nes Tziona.
Staff Sgt. Roei Dawi, 20, a Givati soldier, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Roei Wolf, 20, a Givati soldier, from Ramat Gan.
Staff Sgt. Lavi Lipshitz, 20, a Givati soldier, from Modiin.
Staff Sgt. Roei Saragosti, 20, a Givati soldier, from Ramat Hanegev Regional Council.
Staff Sgt. Itay Yehuda, 20, a Givati soldier, from Rishon Lezion.
Staff Sgt. Shay Arvas, 20, a Givati soldier, from Holon.
Staff Sgt. Daniel Bezgodov, 22, a Nahal soldier, from Afula.
Staff Sgt. Itamar Ben Yehuda, 21, a Golani commander, from Rehovot.
Staff Sgt. Ofek Arbiv, 21, a Paratrooper, from Bat Yam.
Staff Sgt. (res.) Matanya Elster, 22, a soldier in the Carmeli Brigade, from Sde Ilan.
Staff Sgt. Neta Bar Am, 21, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Hadera.
Staff Sgt. Ofir Tzioni, 21, a commander in the Home Front Command, from Yokne’am Illit.
Staff Sgt. Omri Niv Feirstein, 20, a Home Front Command soldier, from Givatayim.
Staff Sgt. Yuval Ben Yaakov, 21, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Kfar Menahem.
Staff Sgt. Aner Elyakim Shapiro, 22, a Nahal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. (res.) Omer Nissim Bitan, 22, a soldier in the 5th Brigade, from Binyamina.
Staff Sgt. Boris Dunavetski, 21, of the 401st Armored Brigade’s 46th Battalion, from Kiryat Bialik.
Staff Sgt. Shlomo Rashtnikov, 20, a Golani soldier, from Haifa.
Staff Sgt. Ido Harush, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Mitspe Ramon.
Staff Sgt. Roey Weiser, 21, a Golani soldier, from Efrat.
Staff Sgt. Adir Gauri, 20, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Guy Simchi, 20, a Paratrooper, from Gedera.
Staff Sgt. Or Mizrahi, 21, a Nahal soldier, from Petah Tikva.
Staff Sgt. Ilay Gamzu, 20, a Paratrooper, from Ashdod.
Staff Sgt. Ohad Cohen, 20, a Shaldag soldier, from Idan.
Staff Sgt. Orel Moshe, 21, a Golani soldier, from Rechasim.
Staff Sgt. Yosef Itamar Beruchim, 20, a paratrooper, from Ashdod.
Staff Sgt. Teshager Taka, 21, of the Golani Brigade’s 51st Battalion, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Alexander Masli, 21, a Combat Engineering technician, from Afula.
Staff Sgt. Tal Levi, 21, a Nahal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Moshe Danino, 21, a Golani soldier, from Haifa.
Staff Sgt. Yaad Ben Yaakov, 20, a Golani soldier, from Petah Tikva.
Staff Sgt. Max Ravinov, 21, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Ashdod.
Staff Sgt. David Retner, 20, a Golani soldier, from Ashdod.
Staff Sgt. Jonathan Golan, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Yehud.
Staff Sgt Yogev Aharon, 20, a Golani soldier from Pardes Hana.
Staff Sgt. Amit Peled, 21, an Egoz unit soldier, from Haifa.
Staff Sgt. Adi Tzur, 20, a Golani soldier, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Michael Ben Hamo, 21, a Golani soldier, from Rehovot.
Staff Sgt. Elad Michael Sasson, 21, an Egoz soldier, from Motza Illit.
Staff Sgt. Jonathan Savitsky, 21, an Egoz soldier, from Modiin.
Staff Sgt. Roi Bareket, 20, a Golani soldier, from Modiin.
Staff Sgt. Dolev Amouyal, 21, a Golani soldier, from Netanya.
Staff Sgt. Dvir Zakai, 20, a Golani soldier, from Tiberias.
Staff Sgt. Tomer Yaakov Mizrahi, 21, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Hoshaya.
Staff Sgt. David Yerhi, 21, a Golani soldier, from Rishon Lezion.
Staff Sgt. Ofek Russo, 21, a Shayetet 13 soldier, from Kadima Zoran.
Staff Sgt. Daniel Kasavchuk, 21, a technician in the air defense array.
Staff Sgt. Shoham Bar, 21, a logistics NCO in Golani, from Ahuzat Barak.
Staff Sgt. Yishai Fitoussi, 21, a Golani soldier, from Talmon.
Staff Sgt. Dor Lazimi, 21, a Golani soldier, from Kfar Tavor.
Staff Sgt. Nadav Biton, 20, a Kfir soldier, from Ofakim.
Staff Sgt. Nehorai Levi Amitai, 20, a Golani commander, from Rinatya.
Staff Sgt. (res.) Omer Balva, 22, a commander in the 9203rd Battalion of the Alexandroni Brigade, from Herzliya.
Staff Sgt. Halel Solomon, 20, a Givati soldier, from Dimona.
Staff Sgt. Roi Haim Guri, 21, a Golani soldier, from Ofakim.
Staff Sgt. Adi Leon, 20, a Givati soldier, from Nili.
Staff Sgt. Erez Mishlovsky, 20, a Givati soldier, from Oranit.
Staff Sgt. Eytan Dishon, 21, of the Givati Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Jerusalem.
Staff Sgt. Shirel Haim Pour, 20, a soldier in the Gaza Division, from Rishon Lezion.
Staff Sgt. Ilya Senkin, 20, a soldier of the Givati Brigade’s Rotem Battalion from Nof Hagalil.
Staff Sgt. Noa Price, 20, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Mevoim.
Staff Sgt. Yonatan Haim (Jonathan Dean Jr.), 25, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 603rd Battalion, from Ramat Gan.
Staff Sgt. Haim Meir Edan, 20, of the Golani Brigade’s 12th Battalion, from Rehovot.
Staff Sgt. Oriya Yaakov, 19, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 614th Battalion, from Ashkelon.
Sgt. Achia Daskal, 19, of the Golani Brigade’s 51st Battalion, from Haifa.
Sgt. Maor Cohen Eisenkot, 19, of the Golani Brigade’s 12th Battalion, from Eilat.
Sgt. Yakir Yedidya Schenkolewski, 21, of the 188th Armored Brigade’s 53rd Battalion, from Migdal Oz.
Sgt. Binyamin “Benji” Yehoshua Needham, 19, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 601st Battalion, from Zichron Yaakov.
Sgt. Oz Shmuel Aradi, 19, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 603rd Battalion, from Hatzor.
Sgt. Ron Sherman, 19, a COGAT soldier, from Lehavim.
Sgt. Kiril Brodski, 19, a soldier part of the Gaza Division’s Southern Brigade chief’s forward command team, from Ramat Gan.
Sgt. Shaked Dahan, 19, of the 7th Armored Brigade’s 77th Battalion, from Afula.
Sgt. Yinon Tamir, 20, from Pardes Hanna-Karkur, of the Paratroopers Brigade’s 890th Battalion.
Sgt. Binyamin Meir Airly, 21, of the Paratroopers Brigade’s 101st Battalion, from Beit Shemesh.
Sgt. Roni Eshel, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Tzur Yitzhak.
Sgt. Yehonatan Maimon, 20, a soldier in the Nahal Brigade’s reconnaissance unit, from Ofakim.
Sgt. Shoam Moshe Ben-Harush, 20, a Nahal soldier, from Hispin.
Sgt. Yam Goldstein Almog, 20, a commander in the Computer Service Directorate, from Kfar Aza.
Sgt. Ofir Shoshani, 20, a commander at the Mifrasit Base, from Kfar Aza.
Sgt. Daniel Rashed, 19, a Golani soldier, from Shefa-‘Amr
Sgt. Adi Landman, 19, an observation soldier in theBorder Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Yokne’am Illit.
Sgt. Imri Peretz, 20, a commander at the School for Infantry Corps Professions and Squad Commanders, from Elyakhin.
Sgt. (res.) Adi Odaya Baruch, 23, a soldier in the Judea Regional Brigade, from Kiryat Netafim.
Sgt. Or Mizrahi, 20, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Ramat Gan.
Sgt. Shalev Dagan, 20, a Golani soldier, from Kiryat Yam.
Sgt. Benjamin Blai, 20, a driver in the Gaza Division, from Rehovot.
Sgt. Maoro Alam, 20, a Golani soldier, from Ashkelon.
Sgt. Adir Ishto Bogla, 20, a Golani soldier, from Ariel.
Sgt. Gali Roi Shakotai, 21, a Nahal soldier, from Tzofar.
Sgt. Yarin Ma’ari Peled, 20, a medic in the Gaza Division, from Be’eri.
Sgt. Neria Ben David, 22, a Combat Engineering commander, from Haifa.
Sgt. Or Asto, 21, a logistics NCO in Golani, from Beersheba.
Sgt. Ofek Rosental, 20, a Maglan soldier, from Kfar Menahem.
Sgt. Eden Alon Levi, 19, a commander in the Home Front Command, from Nirit.
Sgt. Itay-El Marciano, 20, a Paratrooper, from Shoham.
Sgt. Ben Rubinshtain, 20, a LOTAR unit instructor, from Hod Hasharon.
Sgt. Yaron Oree Shay, 21, a Nahal soldier, from Kadima Zoran.
Sgt. Rotem Dushi, 20, a Paratrooper, from Shimshit.
Sgt. Or Malka, 21, a COGAT soldier, from Acre.
Sgt. Yakir Levi, 21, a Golani soldier, from Moreshet.
Sgt. Benjamin Loeb, 23, a Paratrooper, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. Amichay Yaakov Vaninu, 22, a Maglan commander, from Katzrin.
Sgt. Itay Nahmias, 20, a Multidomain Unit soldier, from Yesha.
Sgt. Tomer Barak, 20, a Golani soldier, from Petah Tikva.
Sgt. Evyatar Ohayon, 22, a Golani soldier, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. Noam Elimelech Rojtenbarg, 24, a soldier at the Training Command, from Beersheba.
Sgt. Brando David Flores Garcia, 21, a driver in the Gaza Division, from Beersheba.
Sgt. Amit Mosat, 20, a Golani soldier, from Modiin.
Sgt. Sahar Midani, 20, a Golani soldier, from Kiryat Ekron.
Sgt. Avraham Neria Cohen, 20, a soldier in the Gaza Division, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. Bar Rosenstein, 20, a Golani soldier, from Rishon Letzion.
Sgt. Nehorai Saeed, 21, a Kfir soldier, from Ofakim.
Sgt. Ofir Melman, 21, a Sayeret Matkal soldier, from Nir Yitzhak.
Sgt. Regev Amar, 20, a Paratrooper, from Sde Nehemia.
Sgt. Aviad Rivlin, 23, a soldier in the Technological and Logistics Directorate, from Otniel.
Sgt. Eliasf Ben Porat, 21, a cook in the 282nd Artillery Regiment, from Safed.
Sgt. Naor Siboni, 20, a Golani soldier, from Gilat.
Sgt. Yael Leibushor, 20, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Ge’a.
Sgt. Daniel Shaferber, 20, aan observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Yehud.
Sgt. Shimon Alroy Ben Shitrit, 20, a combat soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Beit Shean.
Sgt. Valentin Elie Ghnassia, 22, a Paratrooper, from Jerusalem.
Sgt. Barak Ben David, 19, a Golani soldier, from Dimona.
Sgt. Itay Ofek Glisko, 20, a Golani soldier, from Yokne’am Illit.
Sgt. Dvir Chaim Ressler, 21, a Golani soldier, from Kedumim.
Sgt. Shahaf Nisani, 20, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Ashkelon.
Sgt. Kamay Achiel, 18, a Snapir sailor in the 914th Patrol Squadron, from Rosh Haayin.
Sgt. David Mittelman, 20, a Golani soldier, from Rosh Tzurim.
Sgt. Ori Carmi, 20, a Golani soldier, from Rishon Lezion.
Sgt. Adi Danan, 20, a Givati soldier, from Yavne.
Sgt. Oz Shmuel Aradi, 19, of the Combat Engineering Corps’ 603rd Battalion, from Hatzor.
Sgt. Tamir Barak, 19, a Combat Engineering Corps soldier, from Nir Eliyahu.
Cpl. Nick Beizer, 19, a COGAT soldier, from Beersheba.
Cpl. Avraham Fetena, 20, a Military Police soldier, from Haifa.
Cpl. Noa Marciano, 19, of the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Modiin.
Cpl. Lior Siminovich, 19, a Givati soldier, from Herzliya.
Cpl. Ido Ovadia, 19, a Givati soldier, from Tel Aviv.
Cpl. Asif Luger, 21, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Yagur.
Cpl. Tomer Leibovitz, 19, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Tel Aviv.
Cpl. Rotem Kutz, 18, a commander in the Computer Service Directorate, from Kfar Aza.
Cpl. Osher Simcha Barzilai, 19, a soldier in the Gaza Division, from Mazkeret Batya.
Cpl. Nahman Dekel, 20, a Nahal soldier, from Holon.
Cpl. Yotam Hallel, 19, a Nahal soldier, from Bareket.
Cpl. Shoham Shlomo Nidam, 19, a technician in Golani, from Kiryat Shmona
Cpl. Boaz Menashe Yogev, 19, a technician in the Gaza Division, from Talmon.
Cpl. Amir Eyal, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Haifa.
Cpl. Habib Keyan, 21, a Golan soldier, from Hura.
Cpl. Nativ Kutzro, 21, a technician in the air defense array.
Cpl. Dvir Lisha, 21, a Golani soldier, from Nitzan.
Cpl. Guy Bazak, 19, a Golani soldier, from Givatayim.
Cpl. Netanel Young, 20, a Golani soldier from Tel Aviv.
Cpl. Adi Gurman, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit.
Cpl. Ariel Eliyahu, 19, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Mitspe Yeriho.
Cpl. Danit Cohen, 19, a soldier in the IDF Southern Command, from Sderot.
Cpl. Amit Guetta, 21, a Maglan soldier, from Rehovot.
Cpl. Itamar Ayish, 19, a Home Front Command soldier, from Kiryat Gat.
Cpl. Ori Looker, 19, a Golani soldier, from Pardes Hana-Karkur.
Cpl. Yaron Zahar, 19, a Golani soldier, from Kiryat Ata.
Cpl. Adir Tahar, 19, a Golani soldier, from Jerusalem.
Cpl. Amit Tzur, 19, a Golani soldier, from Elyachin.
Cpl. Ilay Bar Sadeh, 19, a Golani soldier, from Ramat Gan.
Cpl. Idan Raz, 20, a Golani soldier, from Ein HaMifratz.
Cpl. Lior Azizov, 20, a Golani soldier, from Kfar Silver.
Cpl. Roi Peri, 19, a Golani soldier, from Shoham.
Cpl. Shir Biton, 19, a medic in the Gaza Division, from Ashdod.
Cpl. Osher Shmia, 19, a soldier in the Gaza Division, from Beersheba.
Cpl. Shir Shlomo, 19, a Home Front Command soldier, from Netanya.
Cpl. Ofir Testa, 21, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade, from Jerusalem.
Cpl. Ariel Ohana, 19, a Paratrooper, from Revadim.
Cpl. Hallel Shmuel Saadan, a Nahal soldier, from Barkai.
Cpl. Erez Ariel, 19, a Golani soldier, from Amka.
Cpl. Sivan Simcha Asraf, 20, a signals soldier, from Ashkelon.
Cpl. Ram Meir Batito, 19, a Golani soldier, from Netanya.
Cpl. Amir Lavi, 19, a Nahal soldier, from Jerusalem.
Cpl. Uriel Segal, 19, a Golani soldier, from Petah Tikva.
Cpl. Shay Ashram, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Rehovot.
Cpl. Bar Yankelov, 19, a Paratrooper, from Karmiel.
Cpl. Tomer Nagar, 20, a Golani soldier, from Jerusalem.
Cpl. Lavi Bouchnik, 20, a Paratrooper, from Peduim.
Cpl. Nathan Liard, 20, a Kfir soldier, from Netanya.
Cpl. Shalev Baranes, 20, a Golani soldier, from Kfar Baruch.
Cpl. Ido Binenstock, 19, a Golani soldier, from Ramat Gan.
Cpl. Itamar Cohen, 19, a Golani soldier, from Carmiel.
Cpl. Emil Smoylov, 22, a guard in COGAT, from Haifa.
Cpl. Amichai Shimon Rubin, 23, a Golani soldier, from Acre.
Cpl. Shirel Mor, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Raanana.
Cpl. Ilay Ben Mucha, 20, a Golani soldier, from Ashdod.
Cpl. Aviv Hajaj, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Galit.
Cpl. Hadar Miriam Cohen, 18, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Zeitan.
Cpl. Karin Schwartzman, 20, an Air Force technician, from Holon.
Cpl. Shimon Lugasi, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Acre.
Cpl. Benjamin Gavriel Yona, 19, a driver in the air defense array.
Cpl. Or Avital, 20, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade.
Cpl. Matan Malka, 19, a Paratrooper from Gesher Haziv.
Cpl. Matan Abergil, 19, a Golani soldier, from Hermesh.
Cpl. Ofir Yeruhin, 19, a Golani soldier, from Givat Shmuel.
Cpl. Liel Vainshtein, 19, a cook in the 215nd Artillery Regiment, from Netanya.
Cpl. Maya Villalobo Polo, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Givatayim.
Cpl. Yonatan Elazari, 19, a Paratrooper, from Alon Shvut.
Cpl. Ilay Azar, 18, a soldier in the Gaza Divison, from Shefayim.
Cpl. Neria Aharon Nagiri, 18, a Home Front Command soldier, from Talmon.
Cpl. Naama Buni, 19, a soldier in the 7th Armored Brigade.
Cpl. Ofir Davidian, 18, a logistics soldier in the Home Front Command, from Patish.
Cpl. Lior Levy, 19, a soldier in the Home Front Command, from Dimona.
Cpl. Noam Abramovitz, 19, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Givat Brener.
Cpl. Shirat Yam Amar, 18, an observation soldier in the Border Defense Corps’s 414th unit, from Kiryat Ono.
Cpl. Lidor Makayes, 19, a COGAT soldier, from Ofakim.
Cpl. Idan Baruch, 20, a soldier in the Education Corps, from Be’eri.

What's with all these Colonels and Sargeants? Are there no privates in the IDF? I would have thought that in any conflict lower ranking soldiers outnumber higher ranking soldiers and this would also hold true for casualty figures.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Posthumous promotions?

[CE]

Corporal is one rank up from Private. Colonel is much higher (think Lieutenant, Captain, Major, Colonel, General).

[mtrueman]

I understand all that. What is curious is that a dozen or so colonels have died but not one private. Three times as many sergeants as corporals.

[mtrueman]

An interesting note on American casualties from Vietnam onward:

So while more 20-year-olds still die than any other age group, the average age at death has risen, from just 22 and a half in Vietnam to almost 27 now. The average age is even higher, 29, in Afghanistan and other Operation Enduring Freedom actions worldwide, which tend to involve smaller, more-specialized, and more-experienced forces. Similarly, the most common rank at death in Vietnam was pay grade E-3 -- a private first class in the Army, equivalent ranks in other services -- whereas in Iraq today, it is E-4, specialist or corporal, and in Afghanistan it is E-5, sergeant.

[JFree]

Peacetime armies always have higher ranks. And Israel called up reserves (with previous experience and rank). They would all be what we call Sgt or Staff Sgt.

Recruits get promoted to what we call Corporal once they complete basic training.

[soldiermedic76]

Because, as a rule you get bumped one rank posthumously as someone already told you

[mtrueman]

Still seems like a top heavy list with a disproportionate number of senior officers. Perhaps this is a reflection on the surprise and organization of the attack.

[Don't look at me!]

Misconstrueman maybe thinks it’s better if younger guys die?

[mtrueman]

Isn't that what God intended? I assume the average Palestinian victim from the same period is a lot younger than his Israeli counterpart, if that makes you feel any better.

[Don't look at me!]

All lives lost to war are a tragedy.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Yes, we all just treasure your assumptions.

[Roberta]

...

On so many counts, Carlson is wrong.

Worse than just wrong, he's bullshitting. I don't think he has any idea what he means, other than that he wants to be a complaining curmudgeon who's against whatever it is.

My friends keep talking about him, but I've little idea what he's about. If this extract is a good example, he's just a windbag.

[mtrueman]

He's sound on anti-war issues, if that's any consolation.

[Think It Through]

He's sound on anti-war and race, not so much on the police state and internal governmental power. And now, it appears, capitalism.

[CE]

If a free market system produces a lot of dollar stores, then that's a revealed preference for what people really want. Carlson should know better than to call for central planning.

[Mother's Lament]

That would be true if it was the free market system and not the result of overregulation and massive inflation brought about by the Covid Lockdowns and spending.

[JasonT20]

This is circular reasoning.

Hypothesis: Free market theory proposes that goods and services are produced to meet the demands of consumers.

Observation: There are a lot of Dollar Stores and tons of cheap, disposable items.

Conclusion: That must be what consumers want.

[DRM]

Correction:

CanadaJustin Trudeau just announced that, byin 203524, it will require all new vehicles sold in the country to be zero-emissionshe will be replaced by Pierre Poilievre.

[Don't look at me!]

Canada should be so lucky.

[middlefinger]

Good friends of ours just moved and decided to buy acreage in Appalachia. They told me, just last week, that the dollar stores in West Virginia are really nice, clean, spacious and offer all the stuff the smaller Targets and Walmarts used to offer before they became “Super” targets and Sam’s clubs. I was surprised, these friends are the last people that would fluff up something like a dollar store.

[Nazi-Chipping Warlock]

New York City recently passed a law banning size and height discrimination when hiring dancers

Strip clubs must hire short fatties!

You WILL pay short fat ugly bitches to strip for you on penalty of death!

[Vernon Depner]

Even if they have dicks!

[Don't look at me!]

They get paid more because they are men.

[Chumby]

They get paid more because their performances are critiqued as ballsy

[The Margrave of Azilia]

"Don't lie to me, you've been hanging out with that Chat GPT slut, haven't you?"