'Dreamers' Have Faced Barriers to a Better Life
In-state tuition isn’t enough if they can’t work legally.

On December 4, news broke that immigration negotiations between six bipartisan senators had fallen apart. These talks revolved around Republicans pushing changes to asylum in return for aid for Israel and Ukraine. It's a common event in immigration policy—many small groups of Senators have tried and failed to find a consensus. But it's unfortunate because smart immigration reform has the potential to improve the lives of both Americans and those arriving at our shores.
States have recently been taking matters into their own hands, some with efforts to keep immigrants out (as in Texas's border barriers) and others with efforts to better integrate immigrants (like in-state college tuition and language training support). Neither approach, however, has had much success. Our new study (joint with Susan Averett and Grace Condon) shows that integrating undocumented immigrants is more complex than what states can do alone. A real solution for "Dreamers" and the undocumented immigrants in the country will require Congress to open the nation's golden door to them.
Young undocumented immigrants in the U.S. who arrived with their parents before age 16 can be thought of as "Dreamers." According to the Migration Policy Institute, there are over 3 million. The migration decision was not theirs. Their status puts them in a sort of limbo—they have spent most of their lives in the U.S. but do not have the authorization of the federal government to work legally, receive government benefits, or, in many states, access in-state low-cost tuition for higher education. This sort of twilight status is a problem for immigrants and our entire country. It is in the nation's best interest to promote education among undocumented youth because they are here to stay. As you might expect, more educated people are less likely to draw on public assistance and more likely to enter high-paying occupations.
Undocumented immigrants make extensive contributions to the country even when lacking legal status. For example, they contribute $11.6 billion in state and local taxes each year through sales, property, and personal income taxes. Undocumented immigrants have a net positive effect on U.S. federal welfare programs—they put more money in than they take out.
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) of 1996 prohibited access to in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants at the federal level. Since then, more than half of U.S. states have granted in-state tuition to undocumented youth who have graduated from high school and have spent, on average, three years in their state.
Only 5 percent to 10 percent of undocumented high school graduates pursue higher education, compared to the national average of 62.5 percent. Despite the generosity of these states, our new research finds that in-state tuition alone doesn't uniformly boost enrollment and completion rates for college degrees. For those who are undocumented and can't legally work, it could be that they simply don't see a reason to invest in schooling. Even if they finish their degree, they can't take it to employers as proof of their skills and knowledge as companies cannot legally employ them.
There are some differences based on gender. Our results suggest that access to in-state tuition rates does not increase enrollment among women but allows them to stay in school and complete their degrees. Men, on the other hand, are incentivized to take a college class at a lower cost but the impact is short-lived as they are not more likely to graduate.
Meanwhile, we also evaluate the role of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals Program (DACA), a federal directive that was announced in 2012 and has given access to legal employment and deferral of deportation to over a half-million young adults. In our study, we find that DACA does not encourage eligible youth to invest in higher education, possibly since the policy alone did not lower tuition costs. While DACA eligibility does not impact enrollment rates, we show that overall it is positively associated with graduation which may result in higher returns in the formal labor market. We confirm that DACA incentivizes youth to work more, as expected, and results in lower rates of self-employment, as this group of undocumented youth likely has access to the formal labor market. However, DACA recipients must reapply every two years to stay in the country. Their limbo got more uncertain when, in September, a Texas court ruled the program unconstitutional and they are now waiting on an appeal in federal courts.
The fundamental story is simple: The lack of access to legal employment reduces the power of in-state tuition access to motivate students to attend and complete post-secondary schooling. This becomes a problem when you zoom out and think about the families and children of undocumented immigrants. The children of undocumented people in the U.S. are, by birthright, U.S. citizens. Today's failure to educate and lift their parents dims their prospects. These children are likely to be more secure if their parents hold better jobs and are more productive. In addition, more educated households are less likely to depend on public assistance.
The patchwork opportunities for undocumented youth will continue to limit their potential returns to education, dampen U.S. productivity, and negatively impact public fiscal coffers. So what to do? With approximately 3 million undocumented youth who grew up in the U.S., there is tremendous potential for them to contribute to the formal labor market and enhance economic growth. They are already here and ready to contribute, the benefits are there to be captured. It is a low-hanging fruit and a win-win for the undocumented youth and the U.S. economy. A comprehensive plan would involve both in-state tuition and access to legal employment along with the path to permanent residency.
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On December 4, news broke that immigration negotiations between six bipartisan senators had fallen apart. These talks revolved around Republicans pushing changes to asylum in return for aid for Israel and Ukraine. It's a common event in immigration policy—many small groups of Senators have tried and failed to find a consensus.
They agreed to disagree, and so the border remains open.
I know I'm no Chicago Manual of Style God-Level Jurinalist when it comes to imaginary social abstractions but Reason means:
'Dreamers' facing 'barriers' to a better life
and not
'Dreamers' facing barriers to a better life, right?
Fuck dreamers.
Weird.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-makes-a-prime-time-case-to-legalize-dreamers-build-border-wall/2018/01/30/6defe102-05ca-11e8-b48c-b07fea957bd5_story.html
Dems rejected it.
But he was an authoritarian dictator who tweeted mean things about journalists. Thank God the Koch libertarians strategically, if reluctantly, saved us from WW3. Oh wait...
Did you hear he’s gonna go full dictator on day one and reopen drilling for oil on day one? He’s a monster.
Edit still not working. “on federal land”
I'm no Biden fan, but the stench from the crematoriums was pretty bad during the Trump years. At least that stopped.
I hope someday they all wake up in their native lands and realize that yes indeed, it was a dream...
Non-consensual taxpayers face barriers to not having their earnings subsidize people.
The only way to fix a problem is to federally subsidize the symptoms of the problem but not treat the causes of the problem.
If they were supposed to get jobs then they'd have papers.
Yes, this! Government Almighty has Spoken! If Government Almighty (In It's Profound Grace And Unfathomable Benevolence... and Deep Spiritual LOVE, even...) Had seen fit to grant the illegal sub-humans their "Magic Papers", then the illegal sub-humans WOULD yea verily have been granted Sacred Spermissions, Sperm-Emissions from Queen Spermy Daniels, even, to Have Jerbs! Having obliviously FALLEN from the Graces of Government Almighty, they deserve neither jerbs nor "Magic Papers"!!!
(Actually, jerbs follow "Magic Papers", and SNOT vice versa, Truth be Told!!!)
A joke so pathetic sarc tells it in two articles in one day.
All his other arguments have been so utterly destroyed he now just uses common bleeding heart leftist tropes and strawmen.
Young undocumented immigrants in the U.S. who arrived with their parents before age 16 can be thought of as "Dreamers."
They can also be thought of as criminals.
Witches can also be thought of as criminals!!!
Witches... AND also illegal sub-humans, trannies, accused “groomers”, abortionists, gays, heathens, infidels, vaxxers, mask-wearers, atheists, dirty hippies, Jews, witches, or, the very WORST of them all, being one of those accused of STEALING THE ERECTIONS OF OUR DEAR LEADER, right, right-wing wrong-nuts? ANY methods are OK, so long as they are used against the CORRECT enemies, am I right?
They are largely involuntary criminals for that alone. There are paths for them, namely military service, but leftist open border zealot academics can accept nothing short of total capitulation.
They can also be thought of as criminals.
Actually, no, not according to US law. They have not violated criminal law. Crossing the border illegally is a civil offense and deportation is a civil proceeding that is handled administratively with barely any due process.
From a due process perspective, it might actually be better for them if they were regarded as criminals. At least then they would be afforded due process protections, like a right to trial by jury or even a right to a speedy trial.
From a due process perspective, fuck due process and repel invaders by whatever force is necessary.
I believe it is only a criminal offense if someone reenters the US illegally after being deported.
That is my understanding as well.
So the undocumented immigrants are, by and large, NOT "criminals".
What they are is illegals. They are ILLEGALS.
They are human beings. Shouting the word ILLEGALS doesn't carry much weight with me.
ILLEGALS ILLEGALS ILLEGALS ILLEGALS ILLEGALS
JEHOVAH! JEHOVAH!
They have not violated criminal law. Crossing the border illegally is a civil offense
That's incorrect. Improper entry is a criminal offense.
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/crime-enter-illegally.html
If they're in the Dreamer program, they've been documented.
"Documented" ≠ Legal. If you have been ordered to be deported, you're documented.
Two in a row immigration articles describing government programs that are failing eligible individuals. Meanwhile we have millions of people living on the streets and in taxpayer funded facilities that aren't eligible for anything except for their sketchy asylum claims. Can we just admit that we don't have the resources to supply Koch Industries with a steady supply of cheap labor?
ReaSalon will never admit that!
The only barrier was their inability to make a better life from whence they came from.
All the rest is a stack of entitlements initiated by Obama.
Our new study (joint with Susan Averett and Grace Condon) shows that integrating undocumented immigrants is more complex than what states can do alone. A real solution for "Dreamers" and the undocumented immigrants in the country will require Congress to open the nation's golden door to them.
Fuck you and fuck off, slaver. We don't want to integrate them, we want to repatriate them.
Young undocumented immigrants in the U.S. who arrived with their parents before age 16 can be thought of as "Dreamers." According to the Migration Policy Institute, there are over 3 million. The migration decision was not theirs.
So what? Send them and their parents home.
Undocumented immigrants make extensive contributions to the country even when lacking legal status. For example, they contribute $11.6 billion in state and local taxes each year through sales, property, and personal income taxes.
So that's what, a whole three minutes of government operations? This is 0.19% of the Federal budget. It may be a lot of money to most individuals, but it isn't much of a contribution at all to society, and you fail to even hint at what they contribute compared to what they cost.
The children of undocumented people in the U.S. are, by birthright, U.S. citizens.
Tough shit. Send them back to the country their parents came from and let the parents raise them there. They can come back when they're 18.
Humans are an invasive species EVERYWHERE on the planet, except for Africa!!!
"Send them and their parents home." GO HOME, NAZI!!!! LEAD by example!!!!
In non-schizo reality however, if anybody goes home, it is the ILLEGALS, and their tears are infinite. And you are absolutely powerless to do anything about that. It is happening, right now, as we speak.
Especially in that manner. My reading of the Founding documents contains multiple and redundant provisions against the FedGov compelling the housing of political agents and, if such an ability exists, it's reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
This "They've fucked things up so bad that they can't possibly repair it without violating *more* of your rights (and spending more of your money) but, trust us, they've got this." TOP MEN worship from Reason is getting fucking tedious.
The obvious first step towards addressing this is to secure the border so that we don't continue to be inundated with underage invaders.
We ARE being inundated with underage invaders coming through native birth canals!!! Send them ALL back UP their invasive birth canals, dammit!!!
(Foreign-born invaders who invade, cross-borders, at later stages of development, are usually able to produce goods and services for us FAR more quickly that native-borns, so THIS is the logical thing to do!!!!)
Some ILLEGAL is currently getting CURB STOMPED by ICE... mmmmmmhhhh... can you feel it?
Ah, see the traditional bait-and-switch here:
If they arrived here at age 15, they aren't the "grew up in the US and don't even speak the language of their home country" people that were the poster children for the DREAM Act over a decade ago. Nor have they "spent most of their lives in the U.S." as the article goes on to say, unless they're already over the age of 30.
Libertarians for taxpayer subsidized college tuition for non-citizens?
'Dreamers' Have Faced Barriers to a Better Life
In-state tuition isn’t enough if they can’t work legally.
They can work legally in the countries where they are citizens.
They already got a free education courtesy of US taxpayers, so they will enjoy a much better life in their countries of citizenship than they would otherwise have.
This becomes a problem when you zoom out and think about the families and children of undocumented immigrants. The children of undocumented people in the U.S. are, by birthright, U.S. citizens
No, that's not a problem at all. US citizens live abroad all the time. The parents can be deported and take their children with them, even if those children have US citizenship by birth. Or they can leave their children in the care of people with legal US residency. Either of them are options.
Saying that the parents have a right to stay because the children have US citizenship is absurd.
By what legal right can the government force a US citizen to leave the country against his/her will, if that citizen has broken no laws?
That isn't what he said. What he said was that just because the children may be legal does not mean the parents can not be deported. The parents can either take the children with them or leave them in the USA with people legally present in the USA. That means the decision is left up to the parents which qualifies as a libertarian view btw.
Undocumented immigrants make extensive contributions to the country even when lacking legal status. For example, they contribute $11.6 billion in state and local taxes each year through sales, property, and personal income taxes. Undocumented immigrants have a net positive effect on U.S. federal welfare programs—they put more money in than they take out.
Any group of immigrants that, on average, pays less taxes than Americans makes the fiscal situation worse. Any group of immigrants that, on average, earns less than Americans makes America a poorer nation. It doesn't matter whether they use welfare or not.
Every illegal should be deported. The benefit we can bestow on illegal childhood arrivals is that, unlike their parents, they should not be excluded from the country for immigration fraud. High earners among those childhood arrivals can then apply for immigration visas via the usual channels, subject to the usual quotas.
Any group of immigrants that, on average, pays less taxes than Americans makes the fiscal situation worse.
But we don't know that, because we don't know what will happen to the immigrants in the future. A dirt-poor immigrant today might become the next Elon Musk tomorrow. Or their children might. Sure it is unlikely but I don't have a crystal ball that can state with certainty what will happen in the future, do you?
Besides, which is more important: opportunity for immigrants, or the health of the state?
Is this "How to use 400 characters to have no point at all" with chemjeff radical sophist?
That coin has a flipside. They might also become the next radicalized terrorist, cartel sicario, BLM rioter, or Hunter Biden.
That's why we set standards about who we let in, and who we don't.
And the answer to your question is: the health of the state. A healthy state provides opportunity for legal immigrants. An unhealthy one being choked and bled by illegal immigrants does not.
Rewarding past lawlessness tends to encourage future lawlessness.
'Dreamers' Have Faced Barriers to a Better Life
LOL. That "barrier" has a name. It's the United States Border. Which they crossed illegally. Not our problem that their parents were to blame. Step back outside, take a number, and wait in line like everyone else.
Of course, let us not forget that DACA itself was an EO not a law and somehow it's a 'Mega Executive Order' that cannot be undone by later Presidents.
This is one of the reasons (drink) that the United States is more like a Banana Republic these days. Rule by the King, not rule by Legislature.
Don't forget the activists and special interest groups who try and force their issues before SCOTUS in hopes of whitewashing the nation to stick a thumb in the eye of States and citizens who have already shouted down an agenda at the ballot box. And those (both in politics and the citizenry) who obsess about getting "their judges" on the bench.
EOs are bad. Court packing is worse.
Deport..life isn't fair and America is broke. And to be honest we need a one people/one cultural nation. Immigrants from Ireland, Italy and Japan became Americans...they didn't try and change America. Sorry but they have to leave. And ship the neocons out with them back to eastern euroope where their trotsky loving ancestors came from.