Is COP28 the 'Nuclear COP'?
Instead of opposing nuclear power, climate activists should be thronging the streets demanding a faster rollout.

Dubai, United Arab Emirates—"It's been a very good COP for nuclear energy," said Jonathan Cobb of the World Nuclear Association. He was referring to COP28, this year's United Nations summit on climate change, which had given his industry several reasons for optimism. Most notably, 22 countries—including the United States, the U.K., France, Japan, and South Korea—had issued the ministerial Declaration to Triple Nuclear Capacity by 2050.
"COP28 will be known as the nuclear COP," Australia's shadow climate minister, Ted O'Brien, declared on one panel. And America's climate envoy, former Secretary of State John Kerry, proclaimed when the declaration was announced that "you can't get to net zero in 2050 without nuclear power."
"Net zero" is the condition where the anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are balanced by removal from the atmosphere—one of the targets set by the Paris Climate Change Agreement. Kerry noted that nuclear energy currently supplies a third of the world's low-carbon electricity.
This increased recognition of nuclear energy as a climate-friendly power source builds on the progress I reported at last year's climate summit in Egypt. The declaration recognizes that "nuclear energy is already the second-largest source of clean dispatchable baseload power, with benefits for energy security." (Baseload means power generation that generally runs continuously throughout the year and operates at stable output levels. This contrasts with variable power sources, such as solar and wind: It isn't always sunny or windy.)
The countries issuing the declaration also "commit to supporting the development and construction of nuclear reactors, such as small modular and other advanced reactors for power generation as well as wider industrial applications for decarbonization." An example of those "wider industrial applications" would be the X-Energy small modular gas-cooled reactors Dow Chemical is using at its manufacturing plant on the Gulf Coast of Texas.
Another advantage of nuclear power plants is their relatively small size compared to the extensive and often remote areas needed to deploy wind and solar power. As Cobb pointed out, nuclear reactors can be slotted into the sites of decommissioned coal and natural gas power plants. The new nuclear power plants can run the already installed turbines and transmit the electricity they generate through already installed transmission lines. And the local communities are already set up to operate power plants.
As it happens, Terrapower announced earlier this year that it will build its advanced Natrium nuclear reactor near a retiring coal plant in Kemmerer, Wyoming.
All too predictably, various environmental groups at COP28 denounced the declaration. "Promoting a nuclear expansion at COP 28 is only a plan for climate failure," asserted Tim Judson, head of the U.S.-based Nuclear Information and Resource Service, in a press release. Lise Masson of Friends of the Earth International added: "We have no time to waste on such false solutions that only delay and distract real and adequate action to address the climate crisis."
These activists point out that it takes a long time to build a new reactor. Of course, these delays are largely the result of their own decades of support for crippling overregulation.
In a 2017 study in Energies, the Australian economist Peter Lang calculated that if the heavy regulation championed by anti-nuclear activists had not prevailed during the 1970s and '80s, nuclear power "could have replaced up to 100% of coal-generated and 76% of gas-generated electricity" globally by 2015. Had the earlier learning-curve trajectory been allowed to continue, nuclear power plant construction costs would be 10 percent of what they are now. This would have cut cumulative carbon dioxide emissions by 174 gigatons, and annual carbon dioxide emissions would now be one-third less.
About 440 nuclear reactors are operating now, with 60 more in construction and 110 more on the drawing boards. The goal of tripling nuclear energy production implies the construction of 880 new power plants by 2050. That would mean building an average of 34 new reactors every year from now til then.
Would that actually be enough? While nuclear power generates a significant amount of the world's electricity, it supplies only about 5 percent of the world's primary energy. Fossil fuels still account for around 80 percent of primary energy consumption. If you really want to cut greenhouse emissions over the course of this century, you'd need to increase the world's nuclear capacity much more—tripling won't be enough.
If climate activists were serious about addressing what they call the climate crisis, they would be thronging the streets demanding a more streamlined approval process, enabling a much faster nuclear-power rollout.
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Any climate change activist who take nuclear power off the table is is a fucktard. It is the only viable way to realistically reduce our carbon emissions for the majority of our energy production. There are not enough windy hills for wind power, we can't pave over all the deserts for solar power. And we're run out of dam-able rivers for hydro. And we need batteries for energy shifting, but we're already facing shortages of the critical materials needed for a battery centric economy. Sure batteries will get better in the future, so continue the research, but we need an answer to climate change now and Nuclear Power is the only realistic option on the table.
The big nuclear accidents in nuclear were 1) all preventable; 2) the cause of government incompetence; and 3) still a drop in the bucket compared to the environmental and human damage of coal and petroleum. Three Mile Island was literally a nothing burger. Caused the company a shitload of problems, but zero environmental damages and zero human deaths. Fukushima exploded because government pressured the plant not to release built up hydrogen gas. And Chernobyl was a communist fiasco where the data showing that the design was dangerous and reckless was literally covered up by the government.
Sensible regulation and oversight can be put in place, without the pie-in-the-sky optimism of the 50s, and the gloom and death outlook of the 70s. We can get stop closing old plants, and get new plants up in five years. The cost and time to building new plants is 99% government.
Any climate change activist who take nuclear power off the table is is a fucktard.
Well, they are batting 1.000 in that department.
Sounds like a ten year old wrote this, i.e. '....As an exercise, take a map of any country and try to mark only 10 additional locations where nuclear stations could realistically be placed. You will quickly see that 15,000 is a daunting number....' Reason pretends these require no more consideration than weed and reseed the front lawn in the Spring.
Seems like France figured it out ok. With the coal plant locations in Germany, UK, US, India, etc., there are numerous transmission line ready locations. For undeveloped countries, giving nuclear to a dictator or unstable government could be an issue
Already addressed in the article, they can be placed adjacent to decommissioned coal power plants. SMR can actually be buried anywhere. The only reason that placement is an issue is because of fuck nuts like you, who fear monger and distort the actual safety of nuclear.
Perhaps the folks demanding this could adjust their lifestyles. Just sayin.
Any leftist who really believes this crap about CO2 emissions should commit suicide. Anything less than that, and they’re not really committed.
Instead of opposing nuclear power, climate activists should be thronging the streets demanding a faster rollout.
Because, Ronald, it's not about making more power, cleanly and cheaply, it's about reducing what you and I have as less than elites so we must make do with less and reduce our standard of living while they get to fly everywhere in private jets.
It would be a lot more efficient to just euthanize the whole Davos crowd.
When we go back to a preindustrial society, what will the 90% of us who will have to farm (the percentage of the population that was required to farm before the industrial revolution for anyone playing at home) plow with, as bovines and horses produce GHG?
That would mean building an average of 34 new reactors every year from now til then.
Your plan of building 34 reactors per year until 2050 is unreasonable!
Our plan to build and install 35,000 windmills *and* 425,000,000 solar arrays per year until 2050 to achieve the same result is the only feasible option to meet our goal in addition to eliminating all ICEs, eliminating civilian air travel, and denitrifying agriculture.
And it is the "same" result only if everything works perfectly.
When a group's solution requires absolute perfection to even be comparable, it is not a solution.
There’s only one thing wrong with nuclear power generation: people are terrified of it. They have been bombarded for the last three generations with terrifying fiction from both the entertainment industry and the so-called news media and “FGID” (Fear of Glowing In the Dark) will continue to prevent a rational energy policy from being implemented here. Notice that Germany apparently did not sign on to the notion that nuclear is the only way to achieve “net zero.”
Too bad they didn’t “follow the science “.
Finally.
But 880 is certainly not enough. I did back of the envelope calcs a few months back, and to bring all 8 billion of us to about the standard of living of the Swiss (very comfortable, but also very frugal), we need to get to about 10K reactors.
And double that to have enough power to run the C(reduced) ->C(oxidized) reaction backwards to chase the CO2 level back to 1900 level in a hundred years or so.
Time to start building!
And double that to have enough power to run the C(reduced) ->C(oxidized) reaction backwards to chase the CO2 level back to 1900 level in a hundred years or so.
Good to know that you people don't even buy your own bullshit.
Don't lump me in with the climate hysteria crowd, I'm just doing the math to show what is really needed to do what they propose.
CO2 is going to be above 400 ppm for at least as long as anyone reading this lives, and that is NOT going to be the end of life, life as we know it, mankind, or anything else that really matters.
Why would we want to bring the CO2 level back to what it was at the end of the Little Ice Age? We have greatly benefited from a greener Earth and vastly increased crop yields through CO2 rising to its current levels. Cereal production in Africa up 131% since 1990, for example.
Again, I'm not pushing to do anything, just showing the amount of energy it will take to do what they claim they want.
Yes, personally, I'd love to have that sort of weather, but I'm not the one likely to starve. If I were appointed philosopher king, I'd say quit the panic, work methodically to reduce additional CO2, but enjoy the fact that the great mass of humanity has a higher standard of living than even a generation ago.
I still haven't heard about any entire cities being evacuated and the land made uninhabitable for decades due to CO2 (hut-hum -- Chernobyl).
Then again. If the power-mad overlords couldn't pretend to be fixing non-problems and making problems they just might not have any purpose at all.
I guess the "debate is settled" no matter what the weather right outside the door looks like/does. "The earth is melting!!!, The earth is melting!!!" /s
It's not melting. It's boiling. Apparently.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1684567927734018057
UN chief claims "the era of global warming has ended, the era of global boiling has arrived."
I will give possibly as much as a single damn when these conferences are 100% virtual, using only wind or solar powered computers.
New generations of grifters require new monsters to slay. The peasants will continue to pay to equip the knights in shining armor, of course.
If you were a politician, would YOU be able to pass up an all-expenses paid vacation to a destination "meeting?"
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If climate activists were serious about addressing what they call the climate crisis, they would be thronging the streets demanding a more streamlined approval process, enabling a much faster nuclear-power rollout.
And the fact that they actually oppose nuclear power tells you:
a) they know the "climate emergency" is nothing but propaganda to terrify the credulous and grab political power and endless taxpayer subsidies for their masters; and
b) the true goal is to produce mass starvation and a genocidal decline in the numbers of humans on this planet. Let the hoi polloi starve while the elites continue to enjoy a lavish and comfortable lifestyle.