The Most Obnoxious Blowhard in America
Plus: Grimes the urbanist, Matt Taibbi's fight night, crazy AI applications, and more...

Chris Christie on top? It wasn't just the former governor of New Jersey calling Vivek Ramaswamy "the most obnoxious blowhard in America"—an insult that should possibly be doled out more frequently to politicians. Christie was on fire last night on the GOP debate stage in Alabama.
"You can't say he was good on trade," he told former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley after she praised that part of Trump's economic record. "All he did was impose tariffs, which raise the prices for every American." (More on that from Reason's Eric Boehm.)
After moderator Megyn Kelly asked a question about child gender transitions, Christie replied with a strong parental rights argument.
"I get to make the decisions about my children, not anyone else," said Christie. "Every once in awhile, parents are going to make decisions we disagree with," he admitted, "but the minute you start to take those rights away from parents, you don't know that slippery slope, what rights are going to be taken away next." Involving the state in family matters should not be taken lightly—an argument Christie articulated well, even as his opponents on stage went for simpler red-meat answers.
Ramaswamy, for whatever reason, became obsessed at one point with demanding that his colleagues name provinces in eastern Ukraine. This ended up distracting from his broader argument of foreign policy restraint. "Foreign policy experience is not the same as foreign policy wisdom," he said, correctly, before veering into his weird geographic demands. At another moment, he suggested that January 6 was an inside job. His final answer about the climate agenda being a new progressive religion was interesting and possibly worth devoting more airtime to, but it was odd to include in place of a closing statement.
Florida flop: One name I haven't mentioned is Ron DeSantis. That's because the Florida governor continues to flop. DeSantis said nothing new or noteworthy, and he continues to offer absurd and impractical policy ideas, like taxing remittances to pay for a wall between the U.S. and Mexico (which would be very hard to pull off, and could just result in people using crypto instead of U.S. dollars). He also spread sex trafficking myths (more on that from Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown) while trying to talk tough, saying that when he's president, well, the drug cartels better watch out, because there'll be a "new sheriff in town." OK, Ron.
"Nikki Haley said the other day there should be no limits on legal immigration and that corporate CEOs should set the policy on that," DeSantis declared at one point, totally misrepresenting Haley's stance. What she actually said was that business needs should be considered when developing U.S. immigration policy. "When it comes to legal immigration, it's a broken system—it shouldn't take someone 10 years to become a citizen," she said in New Hampshire last month. "For too long, Republican and Democrat presidents dealt with immigration based on a quota. We'll take X number this year; we'll take X number next year. The debate is on the number. It's the wrong way to look at it." Instead, "we need to go to our industries and say, what do you need that you don't have?"
To be sure, Haley still said plenty of insane things in this debate, like calling for the U.S. to "end all trade relations with China until they stop murdering Americans with fentanyl," which seems like it would…destroy the entire economy overnight.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump remains on top, with these four presidential wannabes trailing far behind—a truth that was at least acknowledged on the stage last night.
Scenes from New York: "Noise cameras" are now being deployed across the five boroughs doling out tickets to drivers of loud cars and motorcycles—part of the ever-expanding surveillance state, which aims to crack down on all manner of fun.
Each camera costs $35,000. Fines for violations range from $800 to $2,500, though, so the cameras will surely soon pay for themselves and allow drivers to serve as a cash cow for the state.
QUICK HITS
- "If you live in Brooklyn, think the Twitter Files were a nothingburger, vote blue and wear t-shirts that mean something, come out this Thursday night" and argue about free speech, invites Matt Taibbi. Though I would never wear a "pay me like a white man" t-shirt or a "decolonize education" hoodie, I'll be there with a camera crew; say hi if you see me.
- Alternate title: "Five ways to thwart the development of new technology."
- The first episode of Just Asking Questions will be released today! Please watch us on YouTube, and rate/review us wherever you get your podcasts.
- Lol:
The New Yorker drops Andy Borowitz, thinks about branching out into comedy. https://t.co/fiOwnj3TXh
— Jesse Walker (@notjessewalker) December 6, 2023
- "The Biden administration will further delay a long-awaited ban on menthol cigarettes after fierce lobbying from critics who warn that a prohibition could anger some Black smokers who favor the products and could hurt President Biden's reelection prospects administration officials said," reports The Washington Post. Classic politician angle: Let's see how a new encroachment on people's freedoms may hurt reelection prospects when trying to curry favor with certain voter demographics.
- Extremely cool AI applications which help us better understand sperm whale language:
Sperm whales have equivalents to human vowels.
We uncovered spectral properties in whales' clicks that are recurrent across whales, independent of traditional types, and compositional.
We got clues to look into spectral properties from our AI interpretability technique CDEV. pic.twitter.com/8sEAzPkMfo
— Gašper Beguš (@begusgasper) December 5, 2023
- Grimes gets into housing policy.
- After being ousted as House Speaker, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.) has decided he will leave Congress at the end of the year. "I will continue to recruit our country's best and brightest to run for elected office," he wrote in the Wall Street Journal. (Some fact-checkers should get on this "best and brightest" claim.)
- It is OK to challenge your subject's narrative and feelings when you are writing a profile of them. That is, in fact, part of the job!
Who are you to challenge her narrative? You are a journalist!!!!! https://t.co/mE5UbFsfN0 pic.twitter.com/F1Zk5nkHOc
— David Grossman (@davidgross_man) December 6, 2023
- We haven't moved past the era of campus speaker shoutdowns?
.@bariweiss speaking tonight in Austin at UT campus. Or would have been speaking had the event not been disrupted. I don't know details but 60-cents says it's the usual, people choosing to fist-shake and rage rather than listen and engage pic.twitter.com/lG8f0Oqy0o
— Nancy Rommelmann (@NancyRomm) December 7, 2023
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Jeffrey Toobin should have been the moderator. He is a qualified master debater.
He does his best work on zoom.
I think he would be able to handle it live.
Sure? He might be hard up to perform.
That could be the rub on him.
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Disagree. I think he'd choke.
He’d pull through well enough to toss off any criticism.
Only if he cums to the debate.
Guess he didn’t have enough stroke to participate.
Toobin found himself between a rock and a hard place
May be trying to put his finger on what happened.
Sounds like a sticky situation.
He thought the cream would rise to the top.
That’s nuts.
He seemed so well polished on Zoom.
ew! Sperm Whale jokes?
Stiff competition?
May have been several media members being considered.
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I was pulling for Toobin.
He must have been squeezed out of consideration.
HI I'm Liz...I"m from NYC an obsessed with old world greviences..Zelinsky is giving it to the mean old Czar who did bad things I guess her ancestors. Hell, he is the modern Trotsky who we still think should have won and ushered a global cultural marxist state and get rid of all those darn superstitious "peasants" ...and Gaza? Well, some folks are more human than others after all Palestianians can live in the Sinai or they should just leave.
Christie..great guy..supports AIPAC and Israel no matter what. Treating mentally ill kids by sterilization..great.
JC who is Reason hiring these days? First, no Reason writer should live in NYC or DC. And they actually should be for liberty and not pushing some crazy cultural marxist agenda. Hire some damn folks with hard science or engineering background and no more "journalism" or "liberal art" majors...
"If you live in Brooklyn, think the Twitter Files were a nothingburger, vote blue and wear t-shirts that mean something, come out this Thursday night" and argue about free speech, invites Matt Taibbi.
Argue or shout down?
Always take seriously a tee shirt wearing person.
You think they dot every “i” and cross every tee?
That said, I would pay... $20-40 for a T-shirt that says "Pay me like a white man" above a pic of Hunter Biden.
^^ this.
If you support the idea of free speech, they will call you a Nazi and a Fascist!
It's called projection.
We should trade NYC for the Falkland Islands
'"the most obnoxious blowhard in America"—an insult that should possibly be doled out more frequently to politicians'
Insult or 21st century political ideal?
Most is a strong word. There can be only one.
‘”the most obnoxious blowhard in America”
Reason magazine?
If this isn’t Chris Christie, I will accept only Bill O’Reilly as the correct answer.
Chris Christie on top?
Ouch.
Someone has to be the heavy.
Fat chance.
Is the republic strong enough to bear that weight?
Please! Don't do that, Liz! I about hurled my oatmeal!
🙁
"Noise cameras" are now being deployed across the five boroughs doling out tickets to drivers of loud cars and motorcycles...
WHERE ARE MY NOSE CAMERAS?
The Vice Squad is using those on sting ops.
🙂
😉
Don't you mean stink ops?
To catch Bozo?
Trying to enforce the Pinocchio Law, are ya?
Waste of time. Trump is going to win.
Exactly. This is the race for VP at best.
But who there is a compatible VP? Certainly not Christie or DeSantis (even besides the legality) on personal reasons and Haley would turn off a portion of his base. Vivek just doesn't have the political experience or gravitas to add much from a vote perspective.
Vivek is the only one who even understands politics up there.
The rest are craven establishment tools competing to shit on Americans, stab Trump in the back, and demonstrate their fealty to "Israel"
I agree. Vivek is the only one putting details out. You won't find it at debates but he has done it on numerous podcasts.
Too scattershot...if Vivek get himself more poised and organized, he would be formidable. Right now, he looks like an idiot.
Debates aren't the arena to do long form discussions. He isnt scattered shot in long form podcasts.
He’s actually got very specific positions, he just knows these debates aren’t the place to express them. He’s using them to increase name recognition. He’s been the top search result on google and trending on twitter after every debate.
I believe it to be rigged when Haley moved up and he went down in the polls. Not likely.
No, that actually makes sense considering the center-right is trying to coalesce around Haley. They're practically begging the other candidates to drop out and throw their support to her.
Well stated.
I fully agree.
Its perfectly legal for DeSantis to be his VP, what is illegal would be Florida electors casting their vote for both of them (they would have to vote Trump for president and someone else for VP, or vice versa)
So not illegal, but definitely a bad strategic move.
There's a few who have dropped out who could fit the bill. Scott (imagine how SPB will go full klanmode if Scott is selected and Trump wins, because given Trump's age and weight, there's a strong possibility that the VP pick actually matters this time around, and yet another reason not to vote for Biden, who wants president Harris?). Bergum also could be a solid pick. Though strategically, Scott I think is the better pick, not least the fact that he comes from a larger state than Bergum but both are reliably red states so the big state advantage isn't as important.
Another interesting outside possibility, despite his loss last month, is Cameron.
Never a waist of time for Christie. He's eating all the attention up.
You served up the Fat Pitch.
"You can't say he was good on trade," he told former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley after she praised that part of Trump's economic record. "All he did was impose tariffs, which raise the prices for every American." (More on that from Reason's Eric Boehm.)
After moderator Megyn Kelly asked a question about child gender transitions, Christie replied with a strong parental rights argument.
"I get to make the decisions about my children, not anyone else," said Christie. "Every once in awhile, parents are going to make decisions we disagree with," he admitted, "but the minute you start to take those rights away from parents, you don't know that slippery slope, what rights are going to be taken away next." Involving the state in family matters should not be taken lightly—an argument Christie articulated well, even as his opponents on stage went for simpler red-meat answers.
Holy fuck! Is this the new libertarian Governor McDreamy?
Good to see Christie advocate for my right to beat my child onto a hospital stay as often as I'd like for any reason I'd like, or does he not believe in that absolute slippery slope argument as much as the statement pretends?
*with a subsidized Chinese made baton
"Christie replied with a strong parental rights argument."
He was channeling Chemjeff on child castration. I'm all for parental rights but maiming and physical and sexual abuse aren't part of it.
I'm not sure if parents should be allowed to circumcise their kids as it isn't really damaging, but castration and mastectomies sure as hell are.
Yeah, but right/wrong parental/state priority gets uncertain real fast. My bias is for parental rights. And I suspect most leftists prioritize state over parents.
Liberal white suburbanite mothers suffering from Munchausen's By Proxy or some other mental affliction. These are the ones kids have to worry about.
Most women are crazy but some are crazier than others. Some are just plain bat shit crazy.
"Five ways to thwart the development of new technology."
The Gray Luddite.
"Ramaswamy, for whatever reason, became obsessed at one point with demanding that his colleagues name provinces in eastern Ukraine."
Nuh-uh. Americans don't learn geography until we have troops on the ground.
I thought we were done with Ukraine.
It’s actually a pretty important question, considering this is the part of Ukraine that voted to leave Ukraine in 2014 after a CIA led revolution to install a pro-western, anti-Russian regime and they speak Russian there. It’s also the part of the country that Kiev has been terrorizing with actual Nazis and shelling since then.
So, sorry Liz, but if you’re running for president and part of your platform is to continue funding our proxy war over this part of the world, you should probably know what that place is called.
It’s Aleppo, isn’t it?
What is a Leppo?
I believe Aleppo is the capital of Luhansk. It’s also a delicious pepper.
It was politically bad in that it was trying to manufacture a "what is Aleppo" moment with pertinent facts not generally known (thanks shill media).
Aleppo is a single city in part of a broader conflict, and Johnson’s position was that we shouldn’t be involved in the conflict.
If he was running on the position that it was in our interests to have a proxy take control of Aleppo, then it would have been a legitimate criticism that he didn’t know what it was called.
Plus, Johnson was probably exhausted after campaigning in all of Obama's 57 states.
Well said. Though the whole Aleppo moment was a manufactured take-down for Gary Johnson. The MSM was largely supportive of Johnson running when they thought he'd pull more votes from Trump. When the polling seemed to show that he was actually taking more votes away from Hillary, they shifted how they treated Johnson. This is when the Aleppo moment came on Morning Joe. Johnson did a terrible job of minimizing the damage. They were talking about something else entirely, and then just asked him out of the blue his thoughts on "Aleppo."
Agree. If the US govt is funding regime change, including genocide and terrorism, asking about details is a fair line of questioning.
Agree. The US manufactured a civil war that cost thousands of lives in Donbas. Putin finally steps in and the media screams that it was unprovoked. If these neocon assholes don't even know where these provinces are it's a safe bet they are not qualified to be in charge of foreign policy.
They should find out where they are by being sent over there to the battle front. The neocons will learn all about the geography of Ukraine.
Sent there as in being air dropped. without a parachute.
The Biden administration will further delay a long-awaited ban on menthol cigarettes after fierce lobbying from critics who warn that a prohibition could anger some Black smokers...
Seems like a few layers of racism here.
But good racism, i.e. helpful at the polls.
Democrat racism is the best kind of racism.
Democrats, telling black people what to do, since 1827.
Gotta keep those ni77ers on the plantation.
Was Malcom X correct?
If Biden wins they'll push the ban through as quickly as possible after the election/inauguration, and hope people forget by 2028 (or blame Biden personally and not Democrats generally)
“I’ll have more leeway after the election.”
It is just smokes and mirrors right now.
Menthol is Black smokers' only protection against white co-workers bumming smokes from them.
Ha!
The plan to turn us into late stage Rome is going swimmingly.
https://twitter.com/Not_the_Bee/status/1732029331306688959
Sen. Dick Durbin suggests we solve the military recruitment problem by using illegal immigrants
https://twitter.com/BIZPACReview/status/1731759481220927646
This is not suspicious at all ????
Chinese nationals crossing illegally at the southern border.
If this doesn’t count as a National security threat ….. what does?
'refugee' troops, personally loyal to Biden. Totes supporting free minds and free markets.
https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status/1732101277398466870
“I love you Joe Biden, thank you for everything, Joe Biden!”
I talked to two African men who crossed illegally into Lukeville, AZ (Morocco & Liberia).
Both admitted to me they are not seeking asylum, & instead want work and opportunity in US. Both are planning to go to NYC.
That should help with the problem of sexual assaults in the military. And I'm sure these immigrants will be fine serving with "trans" soldiers.
And I’m sure these immigrants will be fine serving with “trans” soldiers.
The issue isn't the issue; the issue is the revolution. Gays and women are being surgically thrown under the trans bus. The trans can be next in favor of refugees.
They won’t be serving with any troops that are citizens. That’s the point.
What do we think the name of the operation to arm these people is called? Best I could come up with is:
Fast and Furious 2: Domestic Buggaloo.
Operation Tijuana Enlist?
Seal Team MS13
Apackofcrips Now
Sonoran Desert Storm
Especially the Chinese immigrants. The ones between 17 and 30. The really healthy ones. The ones sent over by the little muppet Xi.
Extremely cool AI applications which help us better understand sperm-
Stop right there.
-whale language...
Oh.
Even whales can’t keep secrets anymore.
I wonder what the whales would have to say about John McAfee? There's your "Stop right there!' moment.
🙂
😉
After being ousted as House Speaker, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.) has decided he will leave Congress at the end of the year.
K Street calls.
Christie blowharder than Harris?
Who are you to challenge her narrative? You are a journalist!!!!!
Bad stenographer!
She’s trying to avoid bad blood
"Extremely cool AI applications which help us better understand sperm whale language"
You know who else speaks Sperm?
Spock?
That's Humpback.
Sulu... Oooh myyyy.
VP Harris may use that tongue.
That sucks.
Chumby’s really spittin’ the puns today.
Hope folks find them easy to swallow.
We’re just blowing it off.
The OG "You Know Who Else?" didn't speak Sperm, but spoke with great concern about who put it where and in whom else.
Your mom?
I'm enjoying the frequent injections of Nancy Rommelmann. Her hands-on antifa reporting in 2020 & 2021 was really good.
Yup, Nancy and Liz are a few libertarian diamonds in Reason’s DC establishment mud.
That's not mud.
CNN: It's Time For Carbon Passports To Limit Travel (To Save The Environment, Of Course)
https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2023/12/06/carbon-travel-passports-n2390543
Private jets exempted, of course.
CNN reporters and executives to be exempt as well. Because Journalism!
Its not enough to travel on a private jet. You need the status of being the only people who can travel.
Gotta hand it to the libs. "Climate change" is the greatest excuse for socialist failure and double standards ever. Eating bug paste? Socialism didn't create yet another famine; you're sacrificing to save the Earth from climate change. Can't travel but the Ruling Class can? Climate change motherfucker.
It's even better than that. Eating bug paste? Climate Change has ruined the harvest. Potholes? Climate Change makes asphalt degrade faster. Power outages? Climate Change caused the wildfires that took down all the power lines.
Kids can't read or do math? We're busy teaching them about Climate Change. City overrun with rats? We're concentrating on Climate Change.
But I thought EVs were just really popular and what parents do with their own kids in the privacy of their own homes is nobody else's business?
If parents want to use electroshock as punishment, who are we, as libertarians, to stop them?
Yeah, I need to shorten my arguments back to my "The libertarian case for pre-teen transorbital lobotomies."
That's not even a joke.
Corporate jets to escape EU’s ‘green’ aviation fuel tax
You didn't think our Betters would impede themselves, did you?
It may well be time to hang these motherfuckers already.
Seconded.
Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, George Soros, Klaus Schwabe, John Kerry, Al Gore,
Of course they won't have to give up flying.
They own you.
Now you can go back to your meal of fake meat and bugs.
Or would have been speaking had the event not been disrupted.
I didn't watch the video. Does this count as our Israel post for the day?
'"The Biden administration will further delay a long-awaited ban on menthol cigarettes after fierce lobbying from critics who warn that a prohibition could anger some Black smokers who favor the products and could hurt President Biden's reelection prospects administration officials said," reports The Washington Post. Classic politician angle: Let's see how a new encroachment on people's freedoms may hurt reelection prospects when trying to curry favor with certain voter demographics.'
My god! Reason is actually sounding libertarian.
“How about a 3/5ths ban on menthol?
Virginia Slims were a new ciggie decades ago. Now we can have Virginia Stubbies!
Virginia Thiccs.
Well done, sir (or ma'am)!
A ban on menthol cigarettes would just result in them being smuggled in through a new port.
That’s a pack of lies.
Possibly Salem, MA.
Or Newport, RI.
Discovering new ports can certainly make one feel alive with pleasure.
Heads are still poised to explode when THC, CBD, and whole cannabis vapes crash head-on into the flavored vaping issue. I'm a little surprised it hasn't happened yet. The northbound train is liberalizing all manner of hemp, while the southbound train is trying to stop inhalation of anything pleasurable, and I don't think there's another track for them to pass on.
Making it illegal to point out the fact that they've yet to find a body after 83 churches were burned in retaliation for this 'crime':
Special interlocutor ‘waiting’ for MP bill criminalizing residential school denialism
https://globalnews.ca/news/10116201/special-interlocutor-waiting-for-mp-bill-criminalizing-residential-school-denialism/
Canada’s justice minister is considering options raised by the independent adviser on unmarked graves, who says Indigenous leaders want Canada to move on criminalizing residential school denialism.
Kimberly Murray called on lawmakers to consider “legal mechanisms” that could address the practice of denying or minimizing the abuses Indigenous children suffered at residential schools in her interim report released back in June.
One way to do that is by amending the Criminal Code to criminalize such actions, Murray said in a recent interview, noting Ottawa did so last year on the issue of Holocaust denialism.
“We could do the same for Indigenous people,” she said. “Make it an offence to incite hate and promote hate against Indigenous people by … denying that residential (schools) happened or downplaying what happened in the institutions.”
https://washingtonstand.com/news/journalists-testify-to-congress-on-censorshipindustrial-complex
The whistleblower said that Terp and CTIL leaders did not explicitly discuss whether they were violating the First Amendment. “The ethos was that if we get away with it, it’s legal,” he explained, “and there were no First Amendment concerns because we have a ‘public-private partnership’ — that’s the word they used to disguise those concerns. ‘Private people can do things public servants can’t do, and public servants can provide the leadership and coordination.’”
Speaking to Congress on Thursday, Shellenberger said, “The Supreme Court has ruled that the government 'may not induce, encourage or promote private persons to accomplish what it is constitutionally forbidden to accomplish,' [but] there is now a large body of evidence proving that the government did precisely that.”
Perhaps most unnerving of all is the fundamentalist and “overtly political” view Terp and her co-conspirators took of mis- and disinformation. Terp herself even said, “Most misinformation is actually true but set in the wrong context.”
They all admire Musollini.
So they are making debunking an unsubstantiated moral panic a crime. There is little evidence that the graves were graves, or if they were, that they were unmarked at the time they were made i.e. wooden grave markers have since deteriorated. A moral panic which caused a rash of anti-Catholic bigotry which resulted in dozens of church burnings. Most of those churches serving indigeneous communities the law purports to be protecting.
We live in truly bizarre times.
They already made it a crime to call a man a man. They are making the acknowledgment of reality a crime
"They are making the acknowledgment of reality a crime" This applies to many things and can't be emphasized enough.
Denialism of any kind should not be a crime.
Forcing children away from their families and coercively indoctrinating them into taking up a new language, religion, and culture, complete with mental, physical, and sexual abuse, should be.
On that account, the Government’s of Canada and the U.S. and a whole bunch of other nations have some serious ‘splaining to do.
You mean 'every other nation'.
And I'll take calls for the US and Canada to be 'held responsible' for the past when these people start calling for China to be held responsible for what its doing *today*.
True. All nations poisoned by all variants of tyranny need a nut-cutting of their tyrants.
Today's people should not be held accountable for perceived wrongs of the past. Not to mention many Canadian natives have reported a positive time at the residential schools.
Unless they are alive today and committed the abuses in the Residential Schools, I never called for anyone living today to be held accountable for past wrongs.
And the fact that some may report a positivex time in a school does not negate the abuse that occured or the fact that peaceful people were coerced to do something or anything by the Canadian Government.
"residential school denialism"
The authoritarian globalists needed a cudgel to beat ordinary Canadians with but they didn't have anything. The slavery narrative was working gangbusters in the US, but Canada didn't really have anything, and most of our native tribes were still around and in situ so they couldn't cry genocide.
So they took one of the noblest things done, the lifting of thousands of Native kids out of poverty and providing them with an excellent education, and tried to villify it.
Sure there's was some abuse but no more than in any public school today, and the genocide and cultural destruction angle is an evil fucking lie, smearing hundreds of decent educators.
Would you want to be forced away from your parent or guardian away from home and forcibly indoctrinated in another language, religion, or culture?
Peaceful people should not be coerced to do a Goddamn thing, no matter how good it might be. If you cannot go along with that, forget you ever heard of Libertarianism.
Hey, do you want a legal system based on actual evidence or on partisan narratives? Only one of these ensures progress on the march to the Common Good.
Evidence-based justice is what serves The Individual Good, which is the only real good that exists and matters.
“Make it an offence to incite hate and promote hate against Indigenous people by … denying that residential (schools) happened or downplaying what happened in the institutions.”
They could also . . . Make it an offence to incite hate and promote hate against religious people by . . . making up fake stories with zero evidence about what might have been done by other long-dead religious people many decades ago.
At least the second case has actual victims.
Can we look forward to Christy defending the rights of parents who do NOT want their child "transitioning" at school, and opposing the schools keeping secrets about such things from parents?
I was thinking the same thing.
INFLATION IS YOUR FAULT
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/12/inflation-prices-buying-habits/676191/
Afghanistan Is Your Fault
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/afghanistan-your-fault/619769/
LET’S DECLARE A PANDEMIC AMNESTY
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/
The people who got it right, for whatever reason, may want to gloat. Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts. All of this gloating and defensiveness continues to gobble up a lot of social energy and to drive the culture wars, especially on the internet. These discussions are heated, unpleasant and, ultimately, unproductive. In the face of so much uncertainty, getting something right had a hefty element of luck. And, similarly, getting something wrong wasn’t a moral failing. Treating pandemic choices as a scorecard on which some people racked up more points than others is preventing us from moving forward.
Those who got it wrong, for whatever reason, may feel defensive and retrench into a position that doesn’t accord with the facts.
Jeff in a nutshell.
Not just jeff but also his best friend.
No amnesty, the people who pushed lock downs, jabs, and shuttering parks should have to pay for all of it out of pocket, no taxpayer money. The teaches union should be force to pay for private tutors until every kid regains the loss in learning
No peace before justice.
Does amnesty mean we still have to take them seriously the next time they propose to solve a problem by shitting on our civil rights?
Of course. That's why "amnesty" is a big No. Lots of people need to go to prison (or the gallows) before we talk about forgiveness.
So, just forget and move on? Sure, as soon as we agree to do the same when thinking about slavery, gender, race, etc.
If we don’t agree to sunset white guilt at some point, shits gonna get ugly.
White progs will never agree to that of course.
nobody does statist fucktardery like the atlantic
" In the face of so much uncertainty, getting something right had a hefty element of luck."
Ah yes, the element of luck known as "opening your eyes and looking around at the madness."
Getting something wrong isn't a moral failing. Imposing on everyone's rights is, though.
I'll forgive anyone who makes a sincere apology. But never forget and never trust them again.
No sorry. Before the lockdowns started we had a perfect case study on a Princess cruise. We knew the probable infection rate, the vulnerable population and the probable mortality rate. Instead of treating those at risk they were executed with ventilators shoved down their throats while those at zero risk lost their jobs and were forced to get an experimental drug jab. These people did not make an honest mistake. They knew exactly what they were doing. They are not worthy of forgiveness. They are murderous criminals deserving prosecution.
Oh, I agree. And I don't expect any sincere apologies from most of the people who pushed all the insane shit. My personal forgiveness to any who appear to genuinely repent doesn't mean I don't think they ought to face consequences for their actions. It was a major crime against humanity. Sadly I don't think we will see anyone held to account in any meaningful way.
There's a difference between seeking actual forgiveness, and just asking people to stop reminding you that you were wrong. If someone sees the error of their ways, there's no point bringing up the thing they were wrong about. But when they haven't changed their reasoning at all and don't recognize that they made any error, you're not required to respect their decision making in the future. Reminding people about the reasons you don't want them making decisions is completely justifiable.
A lot of these calls for amnesty are requests that people endorse the decisions they made at the time because they want to feel justified.
No, not until they start repaying every fucking cent they wasted.
And reparations for closed businesses.
If you reluctantly voted for Biden, these things are your fault.
I mean, I didn't vote Trump, but the sentiment here is right.
If you vote for a politician, they win, and they do an evil thing you had good reason to think they'd do, it's partially your fault.
Joe Biden can do no wrong. Everything is great. Except if it's not, then it's your fault.
Reminds me of a certain Reason commenter.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
There’s not a single person in the commentariat that supports democrats. Just ask them.
Christie’s inflation is the fault of his diet and lack of proper exercise.
""I get to make the decisions about my children, not anyone else," said Christie. "Every once in awhile, parents are going to make decisions we disagree with," he admitted, "but the minute you start to take those rights away from parents, you don't know that slippery slope, what rights are going to be taken away next." Involving the state in family matters should not be taken lightly—..."
Except that putting your child in the way of a "gender affirming care" physician may mean you do not get to decide what happens to your kids. From the American Academy of Pediatrics article "Ensuring Comprehensive Care and Support for Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children and Adolescents":
"Some families may take issue with providers who address gender concerns or offer gender-affirming care. In rare cases, a family may deny access to care that raises concerns about the youth’s welfare and safety; in those cases, additional legal or ethical support may be useful to consider. In such rare situations, pediatric providers may want to familiarize themselves with relevant local consent laws and maintain their primary responsibility for the welfare of the child."
Yeah Christie, and Reason, like simple answers to complicated questions.
"To be sure, Haley still said plenty of insane things in this debate"
Haley could promise to invade Iran on day 1 and it wouldn't matter. Reason's sugar daddy supports her because a Biden vs. Haley 2024 election means the US won't have a secure border from 2025 through 2028.
#CheapLaborAboveAll
Reason does not want to alienate Daddy Warbucks’ workforce.
It’s a foreign concept.
What did Haley say about lessening border security? I didn’t see that part.
She didn't, but if she's the candidate, she's not winning, and Biden sure as hell isn't going to tighten that security up.
"The first episode of Just Asking Questions will be released today! Please watch us on YouTube, and rate/review us wherever you get your podcasts."
I will watch it as soon as you post it on rumble. Being on you tube means you are staying with the establishments very narrow guides on what is" acceptable thought"
Why are you expecting them to step outside establishment norms? They've been fairly lock-step with WaPo and the rest.
Gold bars featured in Sen. Bob Menendez bribery case are linked to a 2013 robbery, records show
A businessman told police that he was the victim of a robbery and asked them to recover 22 stolen gold bars. Some of the bars were found a decade later in Menendez's home.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gold-bars-featured-bob-menendez-bribery-case-linked-2013-robbery-recor-rcna128006
It was November 2013 when Daibes, a millionaire developer, told police that he had been the victim of a gunpoint robbery in his penthouse apartment in Edgewater. He said he was tied to a chair as the thieves made off with cash, gold and jewelry.
The four suspects were quickly caught and later pleaded guilty. Daibes attended court proceedings as the victim. On Dec. 13, 2013, Daibes signed documents to get his property back, including the gold bars.
Cevallos said that if Daibes, in fact, gave gold bars to Bob and Nadine Menendez, that alone does not prove the crime of bribery.
“Was there a quid pro quo? Was it in exchange for the senator’s official acts — or promises of the same?” Cevallos said.
The FBI said the quid pro quo between Menendez and Daibes included efforts by Menendez to influence the New Jersey U.S. attorney’s office, which in 2018 was investigating Daibes in relation to a separate crime of bank fraud.
Don’t worry, Bob. The magic (D) will protect you.
I think he's going down. He fucked up by getting caught.
Again?! Boy, what happened the first time?
I don't know but I'm getting the sense this time that they are ready to throw him overboard. I guess we'll see.
https://twitter.com/Heidi__Matthews/status/1732069078309736512
No, not right at all. Any feminist worth their salt needs to be attentive to the way women’s sexual victimization is used by men to promote their war agendas. Period.
https://twitter.com/Heidi__Matthews/status/1732029225564049821
Is wartime sexual violence a horrific crime? YES, with no mistake. But sex exceptionalism is also traditionally used to whip up support for entire military campaigns — we see Israel and the U.S. doing this now to justify a prolonged disproportionate air and ground war.
https://twitter.com/peterschweizer/status/1732031595178045688
"Marsha Blackburn: Durbin Blocked My Request for Epstein Flight Logs"
“Dick” Durbin.
Any feminist worth their salt needs to be attentive to the way women’s sexual victimization is used by men to promote their war agendas. Period.
Why does one need to be a feminist to pay attention to this? If Hamas had come over the wall and slaughtered and raped a bunch of boys would using rape to drum up support for war be a taboo that feminists should ignore because it doesn't concern them? If they'd come over the wall and slaughtered and non-sexually assaulted a bunch of men, women, and children would it be a feminist non-sequitur?
Seems really fucking divisive and ghoulish either way.
Raping people to death is only 'complicated' & 'nuanced' when Hamas does it. At least, according to Democrat Rep. Pramila Jayapal:
https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1731350942358831205
Well if Israel hadn't been wearing that short skirt...
Keeping in mind, she was talking about this:
"I saw this beautiful woman with eight or ten of the fighters beating and raping her.
"She was screaming, 'Stop it—I’m going to die anyway from what you are doing, just kill me!'"
They were laughing. The last one shot her in the head.
https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1731398568370725161
And she did nothing to stop it.
Good point. Who is the real savage here? The men who repeatedly raped a woman until she begged for death and then executed her, or the unarmed guy hiding under the stage who didn’t speak up to tell them they were wrong?
We really need to call out these awful Israelis for their double standards.
Her attitude is exactly how you get a train full of people standing idly by as a woman is raped in front of them in Philly. The horrific part is she honestly believes she's on the right side. Just evil.
Protecting their own from child sex assault prosecution.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dodgy-dick-top-democrat-wont-commit-subpoenaing-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs
Rule #1: You don't talk about Rape Club.
Really? Because hamas posts videos about it on social media
But that’s not really rape. It’s anti colonialism. All the Libs say so.
AKA, "They were asking for it!"
Marsha Blackburn is going to be the victim of a 2pm robbery where her husband and son get shot, the the "robber" is going to commit suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head.
Just like judge Salas, who was overseeing the epstien case until she retired due to this incident.
The deep state is filled with the most evil people on the planet.
What part of the Reason article is this referencing?
People frequently post about topics that aren’t covered in the roundup in the comments.
The accompanying pic is Caesar turning into Trump. You know, the Caesar that was assassinated to keep him from becoming a dictator.
Opinion A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/30/trump-dictator-2024-election-robert-kagan/
Little known historical fact, Cesar was a huge horror movie fan. One time Brutus asked Cesar what's your favorite movie, and Cesar replied "it 2 Brutus"
Clever
Do these idiot Optimates have any concept of what took place after Caesar's assassination? The civil war that embroiled Rome and its provinces? The fact that all of the Optimates died by the end of said civil war?
The concept of consequences for their actions is lost on them having never faced consequences for their actions ever before.
Mao putting his student revolutionaries out in collective farms when he was done with them? Nah, can't happen here.
The ruling class, on the other hand, is gearing up for civil war, hence the immigrant army loyal to them and who are promised citizenship of they fight for the ruling class - this after driving Americans out of the US Military with vaccine mandates.
Service means citizenship. Would you like to know more?
Rico, Carmen, dizzy, and Jake buessey's charecter all agree.
History is racist! That includes especially anything about left wing revolutions and communist misadventures.
The civil war that embroiled Rome and its provinces?
I mean, c'mon. There had already been a major civil war across the entire Mediterranean, from Italy to Greece to Egypt to Tunisia and Algeria. There was a bit of temporary stability, but Caesar was planning to leave and go on campaign, and the last time he'd left Italy there had been an upswell of riots and massacres.
The hysteria over trump will never cease to amaze me. He's so basic.
Take the comments from Chris Christie during the debate last night, quoted above in the roundup, and attribute them to trump and all the shit libs would be screaming bloody murder. From anyone else, it's just run of the mill political pabulum. From trump, it's the end of the world. TDS is real.
So many people supported dictatorships by governors and public health officials.
Let's, uh, let's not rewrite history here. Caesar was already dictator when he was assassinated. He'd been dictator for the better part of three years ( except for a few months at the end of 47 BC going into early 46, where it lapsed while he was in Africa). Less than years into a ten-year term as dictator, the Senate declared him Dictator for Life.
He certainly wasn't assassinated in some desperate attempt to keep him from seizing power, he'd already had it for quite a while.
And it didn't stop Rome from becoming a dictatorship, because Caesar's nephew/adopted son became the first emperor and, while he left the Senate intact, he had the final say in everything.
An oddity of Rome is that they elected dictators for one purpose or another quite frequently, over a period of about 300 years, then they just stopped doing it. Then 120 years later, Sulla won a civil war and was made dictator for as long as he wanted to hold the office, and doing whatever he wanted with it. Caesar would follow up 30 years later.
Yes, generally when the state was in real trouble, Rome would elect a leader to become a dictator (with the same root word as the word for ten, the office was supposed to last not longer than ten years). This was done because historically premiers could only be elected for a single year and could not serve consecutive terms. By Caesar's time, the consecutive terms rule had largely been eliminated. The same rules also applied to provincial governors, who often were seeking higher office after serving their year in the provinces and the best route to higher power was by military conquest, ergo they had an incentive to launch (and basically the authority) a military campaign during their governorship. Being as they only had a year to accomplish it, these campaigns tended to be short open ended affairs, that added little actual territory to the Empire. This changed after Rome and Carthage went to war and by the third war, governors often were reappointed to consecutive terms. There also was no separation between military and political leaders. To be a politician you were expected to be a competent military leader and vice versa.
Yes, generally when the state was in real trouble, Rome would elect a leader to become a dictator (with the same root word as the word for ten, the office was supposed to last not longer than ten years)
Actually, this much is incorrect. There's no relationship between the word "deci" and "dictator," the root words are different. Dictators were typically supposed to serve a maximum of 6 months, but often served much less than that. Often, the reason a dictator was appointed was to hold an election. It was supposed to be the consuls who called the assemblies and held the election, but if they were unavailable-generally because they were in the middle of a military campaign-a dictator was appointed to call the election for the next year's offices. Then their power would terminate after the election.
Until Sulla in 82, I'm not aware of any dictator who ever served as dictator for more than the 6 month term, not even during the Second Punic War. Now, during longer wars that lasted for years at a time, such as the Second Punic War, they'd appoint a pro-consul to maintain continuity of command. Pro, meaning for, showing that they exercise their authority FOR the consul, and their power was derived from the consul. Essentially the same as a modern general who still exercises command of troops even if the commander-in-chief is replaced by election. They were usually confined to operate in a certain province or region, for the purpose of executing a specific campaign.
In the time of Caesar, these campaigns were vaguely defined, and the proconsular authority was more akin to a governorship of the territory, which is why Caesar was able to, on his own initiative, launch a massive expansionist campaign in Gaul, going so far as to both cross the Rhine and invade Britain. Proconsul terms could be any length, but the most common length was 5 years. Caesar was able to obtain two consecutive pronculships for his war in Gaul.
You're correct. Definitely I was mistaken in that sentence and I'm not sure why, since I realized my mistake within your first sentence of your explanation. I may have been mistakingly conflating dictators with pro-counselors but will also admit the Roman Republic and it's government is not my area of expertise. I'm much more interested in Medieval Europe especially northern Europe and the growth of the Germanic Nation States. Especially Scandinavia and both Anglo-Saxon and Norman England. I somewhat lose interest during the Tudor age, but find the colonial wars very interesting. I'm much less well read on the Roman Republic and made an ass of myself pontificating on a subject that I only have mediocre familiarization with (and very little in the early and middle Republic with most of my focus on late stage Republic and primarily the rise of Caeser and Augustus).
No worries. It's fun to talk about subjects from the Roman Republic era, since so much of Rome conversation is about the very late Republic and Imperial Roman era. It got me dragged down a rabbit hole where I could just off-topic vent.
I'm much less well versed on Germanic Nation States, outside of a particular interest in Prussia around the era of Frederick the Great.
Really, in essence, we're still living in a Germanic Nation State as England has been a Germanic Nation State (much more closely aligned with Northern Germanics such as the Dutch and Scandinavians than the Western or Southern Germanic states since the Anglo Saxon conquest in the fifth and sixth century. Even the Normans were Scandinavian with Frankish flavor). I find this era interesting because so much of what we take for granted on liberties etc are directly connected to Saxon, Viking and Norman England. I also really dislike the trope that Anglo-Saxon England was a foreign culture to Viking Age Scandinavians. The Anglo-Saxons came from Denmark, and there were also Jutes and Gotlanders in their invasion fleets. The Anglo tribes, the Jutes and the Gotlanders (especially the latter) were the tribes that formed Viking age Scandinavia and thus the Anglo-Saxons are better understood as proto-vikings in many respects. Although, linguistically, Saxon was much more closely related to Frisian than old Norse or Dane, and old English and Old Frisian were basically intelligible to speakers of both languages. Also, interesting to note, Frisians during the Viking Age had a culture very similar to Vikings and were sometimes lumped together at the time and there is evidence that a number of Frisians did even join Viking crews.
Not so fake scandal.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-threatened-contempt-congress-if-he-bails-testimony
Is this Steve Bannon contempt of congress where he gets arrested or Eric Holder contempt of congress where nothing happens?
Eric Holder contempt of congress is the privilege of those who wear the sign of the (D). Steve Bannon contempt of congress is for those who wear the scarlet (R).
It will be the best timeline if somehow Biden gets indicted during the election, Trump wins, and then prosecutes the Bidens. The spastic convulsions of the shitlib journo class would be so fun to watch.
I'd buy a lot of popcorn to watch that happen.
That would make him a “dictator “ as foretold.
Biden would play the “mentally incompetent to stand trial” card. As likely would his father.
If that happens, the left will do something to make January 6th look like the nothingburger it was. Not that it will matter since a gunman tried to kill all the Republicans at a baseball field and that story lasted all of five minutes in the media before being memory holed.
Nevermind their May 2020 assault on the capitol, their multiple takeovers of the Congressional floor or their actual insurrection in Seattle and their sieges of multiple Federal buildings, not limited to Portland.
Blatant anarchotyranny.
And the DOJ will immediately initiate a prosecution. Hahaha!
Whats amusing to me is the writers about the debate Liz mentions are getting destroyed in the comments, especially Christie.
"Nikki Haley said the other day there should be no limits on legal immigration and that corporate CEOs should set the policy on that," DeSantis declared at one point, totally misrepresenting Haley's stance.
What she actually said was..."we need to go to our industries and say, what do you need that you don't have?"
Is this really a misrepresentation beyond typical political hyperbole?
No, just post-modern reporting.
Agree. It's not a misrepresentation at all.
Her entire statement For too long, Republican and Democrat presidents dealt with immigration based on a quota. We'll take X number this year; we'll take X number next year. The debate is on the number. It's the wrong way to look at it." Instead, "we need to go to our industries and say, what do you need that you don't have?" is just an attempt to replace national political quotas with national corporatist quotas.
Maybe the 'problem' that encourages corruption (which is not at all a problem as viewed by Reason which always seems to me to encourage corruption as long as it's corporatist) of any real reform is the 'national' part.
I doubt we will return to the early days when migration itself was a combination of bilateral agreements with dozens of other countries (done by the State Dept), Congress rules re ships discharging passengers at ports and naturalization, and states themselves deciding on whether to encourage/discourage ships with migrants (with the exception of the top-down trade ban in slave 'migration') - de facto setting the 'quotas' for migration. All with a very useful way of correcting 'mistakes' via (preferentially) the mobility of an American population rather than the mobility of new migrants.
Too many things have changed since then from 14th Amendment defining an 'American' to mobility of Americans now heavily punished to nothing bilateral anymore. And 'states' are a relic now. But maybe the 'quota' part of any system can again become more bottom-up driven. eg annual immigration 'quotas' driven by the needs of House districts and then aggregated.
And ‘states’ are a relic now.
Really? Please explain as we are still, last time I looked, a federal republic.
Much to JFrees disappointment.
So I get to ignore all the far left policies Whitmer is signing into law!
God, if only...
States (with the partial exception of Texas) were never anything but artificial lines on a map drawn by a higher sovereign power. Top-down impositions on the individual rather than bottom-up res publica consent of the governed stuff. It was a smart move for us to have an intermediate level of government be represented as the Senate specifically to incorporate representing an intermediate legal system separate from individuals. But like everything in 1789, slavery compromises created structural problems which were not fixed post-slavery. Any state now that eg uses gerrymandering is no longer a res publica entity. It is a divide-and-conquer entity. And hence it is incapable of being a legitimate intermediate legal entity between the individual (the source of all legitimate power in res publica) and the federal level. It is merely a relic.
The US Constitution begs to differ.
According to JFree, there was no Civil War.
Huh, good to know.
"...Maybe the ‘problem’ that encourages corruption (which is not at all a problem as viewed by Reason which always seems to me to encourage corruption as long as it’s corporatist) of any real reform is the ‘national’ part..."
Maybe the real problem has to do with you being an imbecile.
Agree partly. "Quotas" make zero sense. What are they based on? They never say. If we actually want a free market system then labor, as well as capital, is part of that equation.
Still trying to deny 2A rights with a tainted state supreme court.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_69bebdea-9482-11ee-adb3-23a6cbdbd327.html
"Caulkins motioned for two Illinois Supreme Court justices to recuse themselves after their political campaigns received a million dollars from Gov. J.B. Pritzker and sizable contributions from House Speaker Emanuel “Chris” Welch, D-Hillside, and a fund connected to Senate President Don Harmon, D-Oak Park."
The finest court (left wing) money can buy. But Justice Thomas must resign for taking a boat ride or something.
There is a little bit of good news though: "President" Sleepy's RealClearPolitics approval rating polling average is finally back down in the 30s where it belongs, and where it ought to have been sitting for the last two-plus years.
Pro tip to all you Twitter reposters: You’re not just doing it wrong, you’re doing it stupid.
1. If I don’t sign in to Twitter, I can’t see the thread you brag about.
2. If all you do is post the text of the tweet and the link to the tweet, you are posting the same thing.
3. When the tweet is just some unknown influencer or “journo” responding to some unseen other tweet, I have no context to have any clue what is going on.
So stop regurgitating snippets of nothing. All you do is train my eyes to skip over everything else you post.
Put a little fucking effort into it. If you can’t be bothered to do that, why should I be bothered to put more effort into it? What do you do, save up a pile of quotes overnight and spam the comments in the morning?
I'm not entirely convinced there wasn't some effort put into the David Grossman re-Tweet.
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1729992177353105799?t=tVQeO2U5VXgGTCze2fnoLg&s=19
Elon Musk has a message for all the corporations pulling ad money from X:
"Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is."
[Video]
Being the richest guy on the planet has its perks.
He specifically called out Disney's Bob Iger, it was beautiful.
We don't deserve this guy.
Why do you demand others put in effort? Create a damn fake Gmail email account and you can see. Much less effort than your demands of others.
I don't demand they put in the effort. It's a "tip", a suggestion, customer feedback. If they want my eyeballs on their twitter reposts, they need to make them more attractive. I suspect other people skip them for the same reason. If I'm wrong, so be it, no skin off my back. If I'm right, it's a hint, a suggestion, feedback.
You are not wrong.
Youre asking people here to rehost images, documents, videos, etc for your benefit, and possibly in violation of copyright.
I don't know, I kind of agree with them. I can see if you have to log into a service to comment like here at Reason, but just to view something you must create an account....no thanks.
"1. If I don’t sign in to Twitter, I can’t see the thread you brag about."
Yeah, after they changed it so that people that weren't logged in couldn't see comments and the like, I just started to ignore any twitter posting here for the most part.
"I get to make the decisions about my children, not anyone else," said Christie. "Every once in awhile, parents are going to make decisions we disagree with," he admitted, "but the minute you start to take those rights away from parents, you don't know that slippery slope, what rights are going to be taken away next." Involving the state in family matters should not be taken lightly—an argument Christie articulated well, even as his opponents on stage went for simpler red-meat answers.
We've already been over this. The "adult supervision" is a bullshit stalking horse.
Almost 50 yrs. of the FBI cracking down on minors in porn and cops keeping kids out of strip clubs and, at the end of the tyrannical prohibition and the descent of the hyperpuritanical dark night, it takes your 18-yr.-old all of 5 min. to set up an OF account. Even decades ago, largely before the internet, the 'horrible oppression' didn't really apply to anyone old enough to drive a car and have even a passing conversation with anyone over the age of 17-18.
We fought a war with the Mormons over this bullshit and, further back, the American settlers and, more importantly, the Conquistadors fought wars with the natives about virgin sacrifices, and still further back, the Christians and the Muslims fought the Romans over underage eunuch slaves and underage harems.
The idea that if we don't allow parents unfettered ability to sexualize their children The West falls has been a non-sequitur for decades if not millennia dating back to the dawn of The West. Its use today is as an actual no-shit, slippery slope fallacy on the part of people who are (hopefully) at the bottom of their respective slopes defending the involuntary sexualization of children, depriving women of their rights, and refuting English and a broad swath of all natural language, basic biology, and even fundamental logic.
Uh, the Islamic religion, and thus Muslims, were not around in the time of the Empire ran from Rome. What are you babbling about?
And, from a Libertarian stance, shouldn't the fight have been against human sacrifice and slavery period, not just what was done to slaves and at what age?
Where do YOU draw the line? Easy to support prohibitions on parental murder of their own children, and maybe easy to reject routine state confiscation of kids. Where is state intervention too much?
Where do YOU draw the line?
The n-dimensional is/ought line? I don’t think polygamy, especially among consenting adults, should be illegal even if the consenting adults were homeschooled to be sister-wives. If we can ban polygamy, we can sure as hell ban parents from destroying their children’s sex organs just as if we banned them for breaking legs or cutting off toes or ears.
We keep track of the number of cancer-related mastectomies, hysterectomies, pap smears, etc. every year. The FDA issues recommendations that people get fewer or more mastectomies or pap smears based on the prevalence of cancer and predicated against the harm of removing healthy tissue as a panicked over-reaction. The idea that we can’t, or even don’t already, look at the prevalence of no-shit “We can’t leave this pre-teen kid alone without them trying to mutilate their own genitals.” mental patients and differentiate them from the “I wanna be trans because all my friends are trans too.” is absurd.
Again, despite the obfuscation and stalking horses, the medical community here and abroad was very much complicit in this. The same medical community that was getting people fired for refusing the jab. As I indicate above and iteratively and integral to the argument, the framing that it’s a discussion among reasonable adults rather than a large group of people actively and vocally sliding back towards merkins, transorbital lobotomies, and virgin sacrifices and the rest of the last several centuries of progress of Western Society is a false framing.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: if we were talking about a sect of Heaven's Gate cultists neutering each other or Jim Jones Peoples' Temple out in Idaho or Guyana somewhere, as long as the cultists weren't forcing people to drink kool aid laced with cyanide, no one wold care. It wasn't until Raleigh passed a law saying "Private businesses have to metaphorically drink the kool aid.", the State of NC said "Nuh uh." and Reason said, "What's with the oppressive statist moral panic from NC legislators about drinking kool aid? It's just kool aid!" that this became an issue.
I share your concern about specific and sometimes freakish harms to kids. But I worry about, as in any empowerment of the state, the potential for abuse. We can agree about chemical and surgical gender alteration as a really bad idea. What about just cross-dressing and re-naming your kid? If a current government can ban that, can a future (or present, e.g. California) government ban treating your kids according to traditional gender roles?
What about just cross-dressing and re-naming your kid? If a current government can ban that, can a future (or present, e.g. California) government ban treating your kids according to traditional gender roles?
You do realize you’ve got this exactly backwards from reality, right? That the law pretty much everywhere supports parents changing kids names and dressing them as they see fit and California does, in fact, ban religious, purely behavioral conversion therapy, right? That the laws that are really proposed and changes made are that the school can't compel the specific or other students to behave one way or the other without the parents' knowledge or consent, right? That you’re effectively perpetuating the obfuscation or scapegoating of doping of kool aid with diazepam and cyanide with “Those puritans won’t be happy until everyone only drinks plain tapwater.”
Even if you agreed with the lie and wanted to pull it off successfully, you would want to let everyone know behind the scenes so that the actors playing the part your child's "friends" don't shout "LINE?!" when asked if they want to play with dolls or trucks.
I draw the line as Rothbard did, at aggression. I think that's fair.
That's the difficult part. Parental abuse of children violates the NAP, and children are a vulnerable enough population that makes it difficult for them to preserve their own rights. So I agree there's a public interest in investigation and punishment of child abuse. But what qualifies as abuse? I was spanked as a child, and many would classify that as abuse, though I do not.
And the problem with the issue of transexuality, in particular, is that you have doctors acting as ideologues and political advocates instead of disinterested custodians. They are pushing a narrative that is not built on objective, measurable fact. There is very little that is MORE subjective than a diagnosis of gender dysphoria based on a child's belief they might be the wrong gender.
The science of sex and gender has been completely thrown out and it's considered heresy to say that sex is biological and inherent, and comes from your genetic material. There are many doctors who engage in sciencism, claiming they're using science while upholding doctrinal stances they refuse to have challenged, refusing to engage in studies about trans-regret or long-term outcomes of surgically-transitioned people.
If doctors were merely treating objective signs of abuse, such as suspicious bruising and broken bones, we could point to clear, hard lines where parental rights end. That doesn't mean doctors have to always get it right, either-maybe occasionally a doctor reports a case of suspected abuse when it turns out the kid just crashed their bicycle. But at least they're looking at an objective criteria.
Yesterday and today, suddenly I am getting a zillion ads on every site. I use a javascript blocker and have not updated it or Firefox recently. Some sites which used to be readable are so cluttered with ads they are almost unreadable. Reason is one of them.
Does anybody else have this problem? Did something change recently? I've also been getting those Youtube warnings about ad blockers not being allowed, but I can still play the videos.
Chrome, adblock plus.
No ads using a PC.
Safari and ABP on a Mac, zero ads. I do get blocked from some sites for running ABP (and not subscribing), but I am fine with that.
Yup.
Same or similar for Brave, and occasionally Firefox, no ABP anywhere, on Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, and I want to say CentOS but it's between possible and likely that it's just really out of date.
I like the ads. Just sayin'
Yeah, ABP is great. I've almost totally forgotten that Youtube, Twitter, etc. have ads.
Been an issue using Brave with blockers here for a while. Reason seems to be scripting an ad bar on the bottom with ads sometimes taking up half the screen on the bottom on mobile.
Thanks everybody. I switched to ABP and the trash went away on several websites I tried. The previous as blocker extension was "AdGuard AdBlocker". I still don't understand what changed, since it's been at least several weeks since upgrading Firefox, and more for the extension. I suppose some ad javascript was updated and a bunch of websites all got the upgrades at the same time.
>> so cluttered with ads they are almost unreadable. Reason is one of them.
dude those are the articles.
Stop it, just stop.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/12/07/stop-calling-trump-a-fascist/
They're fighting fascism and saving the Earth from Climate Change, thus making them the Most Important People Ever.
Its just ego.
So then, what should we call the system Democrats are so eager to impose, where government controls the economy through "partnerships" with business enterprises, sets official social policies that favor some groups and punish others, polices not just speech but thought, and manipulates all politics in order to ensure one-party rule?
Fascism. Rachel Maddow is a clown that shouldn’t be taken seriously.
I've been using Left-Authoritarianism.
Marxists.
the word "fascist" has devolved to simply mean "i dont like it"
More specifically, I don't like THEM.
In case anyone forgot, Robert Reich is either retarded or dishonest enough to have claimed that Fascists would love unfettered free speech on the internet.
I don't think anyone in American politics really is fascist, but the progressive left definitely comes closest. Hell, before WWII, the original progressives were openly admiring of Fascism.
FDR sure had a thing for Mussolini.
And Stalin.
Hell, before WWII, the original progressives were openly admiring of Fascism.
Nothing has changed since then among Progressives, they’ve just learned to hide their intentions better. It amounts to gaslighting or concern trolling, but that is certainly their end goal even up to today no matter what they say to deny it.
One just needs to look at their accomplishments and stated preferences to figure that out.
Republicans, and even Democrats, don’t swing that way by default but Progressivism certainly does no matter which letter they happen to wear after their name.
Things listed as fascism: cutting the federal bureaucracy's size.
Reality: all three historically fascists states increased the size of their bureaucratic state significantly. Germany increased it during the first five years or so by an estimated 300%.
Less regulations is fascism.
Reality: along with that growth in bureaucrats was a subsequent increase in regulations and laws, that invaded every aspect of how citizens lived, including what products they could or couldn't buy (gee who is proposing what consumer goods, like what stoves, air conditioners, automobiles we can purchase?).
Freedom of religion is fascism.
Reality: all three fascist dictators severely limited religious practices and expression, with Germany going so far as to edit the Bible and monitoring and dictating sermons and jailing ministers and priests who objected.
Gun rights are fascism.
Reality: while some gun restrictions were lessened in Germany, overall, gun rights were even more strictly regulated than under the previous governments in all three Fascist states.
Colorblindness is fascism.
Reality: do I really need to explain this one, especially in Germany, and to a lesser extent in Franco Spain and even less (albeit not entirely devoid of it) race and categorizing people and treating them differently due to race was common, even ubiquitous in fascists states.
Allowing dissenting views to be heard is fascism.
Reality: fascists were experts at the use of the heckler's vote to silence political opponents.
I think a big part of the problem is that most people don't actually have any idea what Fascism actually was.
Very true, but it's due to an active campaign from the Left to misconstrue what Fascism was and how it came to be. They don't want to be associated with it (even though they were behind it) so they smear it on anything and everything to the right of Pol Pot.
Also, if more people understood fascism it probably wouldn't be very rosy for the regressives. People might draw a conclusion they don't want.
"The New Yorker Drops Andy Borowitz’s Satire Column"
Good. Satire is both disinformation and white privilege, oppresses vulnerable people, and uses words for violence. Besides, earnest Karen types don't get it.
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ZERO IN ON HUNTER BIDEN CAR LOAN PAYMENTS TO HIS FATHER!
House Oversight GOP release document showing payments made by Hunter Biden to his dad; documents say they were for a car
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But documents provided to CNN appear to show that Hunter Biden was repaying his father for a Ford Raptor, information that had already been publicized. A source familiar with the payment told CNN that Hunter Biden’s credit was low at the time while he was struggling with addiction, so he couldn’t finance the car and his father signed for the car, which was in Joe Biden’s name.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/politics/oversight-committee-hunter-biden-car-payments/index.html
BEST FAKE SCANDAL EVER!
Why do you have a 2 after your name?
A pertinent question, but it lets the shill pretend we can’t answer his accusation.
“Why did your CNN/DNC article only highlight the smallest payment and handwave the others?” would be a more relevant question to ask of the pedophile.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Who the fuck is paying you to #DefendBidenAtAllCosts?
And why?
A ford raptor? Those things are destroying the planet!
What happened to it being just a bar tab?
Facts changed.
Paid for by a corporate account for a personal expense along with other evidence of comingling of Hunters account, Joe's account, and the corporate account.
Discuss.
12/7/2023, calling my shot now. There is a 50/50 chance the left pivots from vaccine mandates to "the failed Trump vaccines that are killing us all" next year and resurrect all the "Trump vaccines" statements they made before the 2020 election.
New Zealand Whistleblower Claims Public Health Data Shows COVID Vaccines ‘Are Killing People’
https://amgreatness.com/2023/12/06/new-zealand-whistleblower-claims-public-health-data-shows-covid-vaccines-are-killing-people/
Because facts (and memory) are racist.
Not sure they can retcon a worldwide response without being called out on it, but at the same time I shouldn’t underestimate the complicity of the media to cover up outright lies.
The lie doesn’t have to last long, just long enough to get reelected. After that, they have plenty of time for the public to forget.
WH Interns demand a ceasefire in Israel v Hamas.
1) Where the blue Hell do interns get off demanding a damned thing?
2) Why aren't they being released given that they are leaking it to the press? Not exactly hard to replace them.
Ahh, WH interns, recruited from the finest far-left organizations and coddled protected class groups. Why are you surprised?
Further, they assume their opinions about anything at all are important to anyone besides mommy.
They’re the children of the rich and powerful people running this country?
A better question is 'Hamas doesn't honor ceasefires, so is your position that Israel should just lie down and take it or are you just stupid? I guess both is also an option...'
I was debating the Crusades and their proximate causes with one of these over credentialed under educated types one time. I pointed out the centuries of Arabic Muslim conquests of Christian Kingdoms in the Near East and North Africa. He (I know assuming facts not in evidence) said that was different since the Muslims were just reconquering their native lands. He didn't believe me when I pointed out that Mohammed was born five and a half centuries after Christ or that Arabs were not native to most of the Kingdoms the conquered, especially in North Africa. He really believes that the Roman Empire had conquered Muslims and enforced Christianity on them.
My parents paid a doctor to cut the tip of my dick off right after I was born. Guess I don't actually accrue bodily autonomy until I hit an arbitrary playtime? Parental rights basically subsume individual rights whenever the desired actions or lack thereof come into conflict. This isn't squaring that well with the non-aggression principle, guys.
And Ramaswamy mopped the floor with Christie and Haley, just a couple of hawks looking to sacrifice American blood and treasure to propitiate this horrible machine our political class hath wrought. He honestly called them out on it, and challenged them to actually name our stated interests in that war. Their inability to do so lays bare the frailty of their arguments. Put all the lipstick on Christie you like, he's still a fascist neocon.
There's a hell of a difference between lopping off a tiny bit of foreskin (that may or may not do much of anything) and chemically castrating that same kid.
We still ban female circumcision, right?
Yep. FGM doesn't just remove a tiny bit of foreskin, it's more like lopping the entire head off the member.
[tilts hand]
Not to refute you, but there are tards on the a.heroic.dose's side that would lash out against some minority Western Muslims that nick the labia or vulva without removing any tissue and call it a day and then pretend their lashing out against said Muslims was rationally consistent with their stance in favor of hysterectomies and lopping off breasts to treat this generation's version of anorexia.
That was the current thing like 10 years ago. Try to keep up.
Memory is racist.
tiny bit of foreskin (that may or may not do much of anything) and chemically castrating that same kid.
When he's 14.
There's definitely parallels to be made there. And I am sympathetic to the idea that parents should be allowed to have their children transition on the basis that parents generally have more of an interest in their children's well being than anyone else.
The problem I have is that it never works the other way around. Parents changing their children's gender is Parents' Rights. Parents objecting to public schools changing their children's gender is Trans Genocide.
The problem I have is that it never works the other way around. Parents changing their children’s gender is Parents’ Rights. Parents objecting to public schools changing their children’s gender is Trans Genocide.
Yeah the whole "parents should be able to transition their kids" is a bullshit stalking horse. We went to war with and still ban Mormons because of underage/non-consensual polygamy (or it as a stalking horse). The FBI kicks down doors and will arrest people for child porn produced in the 80s when it was not illegal to have actors under the age of 18 in the US, and certainly not in Europe. Brothels and titty bars got chased more than 100 ft. away from elementary school decades ago.
The whole reason we're discussing the issue is because of people distinctly trying to see how far down the slippery slope they can get without regard to who they hurt or any barriers they destroy, don't want anyone else to slip and hurt anyone.
Plus there’s the whole cultural marxism thing.
I realized this issue some years ago. When the whole "Desmond is Amazing" thing went public. Good Morning America had a piece gushing about it. And I asked myself, if Bubba, in say rural Mississippi, decided to take his underage daughter to the tiddie bar to do some pole dancin' with his buddies all shoving dollars down her g-string, would the same people gushing at Desmond is Amazing be celebrating that? Would they be applauding Bubba for helping her to "explore her sexuality"? But, if it's gay, it's okay?
The 'If it's Gay, It's Okay' statement seems to be the general consensus these days. The irony is that this enables a lot of the disgusting shit that those same people claim to be against, but whatever I suppose. Consequences be damned, full steam ahead.
It's almost as if the people shilling for that type of thing don't actually think that gay people have any agency and are just sexual organs that happen to have a semblance of a decision making process. Heterosexual people, however, have full agency and must suffer any consequences of their own behavior. They are also fully responsible for the behavior of gay individuals.
It's not for nothing that we say 'if not for double standards, they would have none'.
Kevin Spacey's character fantasizing about his daughter's best friend in American Beauty was considered pervy (rightly so) but a movie about a gay professor having a love affair with his underage student is so brave.
The other way as well. Inordinate numbers of gay and trans kids self-terminate because they were sexually abused as kids, asserting the bullies as closeted and/or self-loathing homosexuals didn't improve things any, so we went on an anti-bullying campaign that really wound up not really reducing any bullying because, especially after the whole "Maybe it's the bullies who are homosexuals." thing it really seems like *we're* the bullies. But, rather than focus on that, apparently, we're going combat child sex abuse by encouraging adults to sexualize gay and trans kids more.
It's not even the throwing spaghetti at the wall that the "Hey, let's try segregation again." is.
"Christie and Haley, just a couple of hawks looking to sacrifice American blood"
These two know that they're going nowhere so they're basically farming donor cash now.
Christie is also auditioning for corporate boards and quangos.
I think Haley is still hoping Trump gets thrown in prison or assassinated and the corporate press pushes her over the finish line.
If Trump is assassinated, I doubt there will be an election.
"I think Haley is still hoping Trump gets thrown in prison or assassinated"
That's not a faint hope, but the DNC/Media complex are never going to switch to her unless she switches parties.
Of course if they do assassinate or imprison Trump there won't be a US to be president of.
We are at a weird spot. They are never going to let Trump be president again, they can't. They've done far too many illegal, criminal, traitorous things now. But the whole "pile on phony charges" attempt hasn't worked, and it's dawning on them that just shooting him won't make it okay either.
I think their only hope is making it look like a heart attack or something that they can make look like a natural death.
Don't underestimate the governments ability to hog-tie a President they don't like, by any means available.
We saw it with James Comey being fired, and no doubt we'd see a bigger version of that his second time around.
Keep him occupied with lawfare for 4 years on every decision and then he's gone forever. I'm sure that's the play here.
By finish line I mean the nomination.
Christie is outright declaring it to be objectively true that Trump is guilty and will be convicted. (Which, to be fair, there's almost 0% he's acquitted by a DC jury) Christie is a fucking institutionalist who believes the FBI is a force for good in this country.
I think that Christie knows he's a lost cause and is just pushing messages that his sponsors want to have conveyed to the rabble watching, for the money.
He's kind of like Chemjeff, but fifty-centing on a national stage instead of internet forums.
"$6 billion federal infusion for high-speed rail in California. Here’s what it will pay for"
[...]
"California’s high-speed rail project is getting a $3 billion windfall from the federal government that will go toward finishing construction of the bullet train’s 119-mile Central Valley line from Bakersfield to Merced.Another $3 billion federal grant was also awarded to Brightline West, the private high-speed railroad that will link Los Angeles and Las Vegas via bullet trains running at speeds of up to 186 mph. The $12 billion rail project, which launched in 2019, is on track to open in time for the 2028 Summer Olympics..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/6-billion-federal-infusion-for-high-speed-rail-in-california-here-s-what-it-will-pay-for/ar-AA1l3wxn
Thanks, suckers!
… which launched in 2019, is on track to open in time for the 2028 Summer Olympics…
Not without another emergency infusion of cash, it isn’t going to happen.
I hope this is referred to as the gravy train.
With biscuit wheels.
"I get to make the decisions about my children, not anyone else," said Christie. "Every once in awhile, parents are going to make decisions we disagree with," he admitted, "but the minute you start to take those rights away from parents, you don't know that slippery slope, what rights are going to be taken away next." Involving the state in family matters should not be taken lightly—an argument Christie articulated well, even as his opponents on stage went for simpler red-meat answers.
So then Chris Christie is categorically against school systems transitioning kids without Parental knowledge? Can we put him on record for that? And what's Libertarianism Plus's take on that?
The irony of governor bridgegate getting his praises sung on Reason is not lost on me.
Apparently, someone in Reason's hierarchy thought Christie was a big fat deal.
Sperm whales have equivalents to human vowels.
LOL! Was anybody really worried about the vowels? Seems like with all the EEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHs and OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUs, hard consonants would be the more significant discovery.
Come back when you’ve discovered the whale equivalent of ‘tzsch’, ‘pf’, or they’re diagnosing each other with Hirschsprung’s Disease or directing each other to Springinsguth by name.
Edit: Are we sure the AI didn’t confuse whales songs for Chris Christie’s speech? That seems like the sort of contextual "Noises from one large mammal is as good as another." mistake AI would make.
Whales don’t pronounce the consonants on porpoise.
The study was a fishing expedition.
They have vowels, but no consonants. So when Ahab shows up, all they can do is yell "Aa! Aa!" to warn the other whales.
You know who else confused Chris Christie with a whale?
Everyone
Split your lungs with blood and thunder
When you see the white whale
Break your backs and crack your oars men
If you wish to prevail
This ivory leg is what propels me
Harpoons thrust in the sky
Aim directly for his crooked brow
And look him straight in the eye
White whale, holy grail
You know who else confused Chris Christie with a whale?
JB Pritzker?
/It takes one to know one.
They could have their own pod cast.
The Blow Hole.
A pair of blubbermouths
Why so many stories about Chris Christie?
You think the mass media had weighted their coverage for Christie?
It does tip the scales.
Christie stories are typically above the folds?
72 is the type size and waist.
"After moderator Megyn Kelly asked a question about child gender transitions, Christie replied with a strong parental rights argument."
Which didn't address the questions asked - are hormone blockers (which are not reversible) and body modification (breast removal and more) abuse or not.
Parents get to make decisions for their child - but not abusive decisions.
If you can cut the tits off your daughter, or straight up castrate your son, where exactly is the line for 'abuse' anymore?
Misgendering would probably qualify.
So, let me get this straight. The guy insisting we need to spend hundreds of billions of dollars into a warzone and risk nuclear war over the political fate of a couple of Ukrainian provinces is calling the guy calling him out for not being able to even name the provinces "an obnoxious blowhard"? And the irony is lost on people?
That’s not quite right. What’s actually happening is that they’re all desperately trying to get picked as Trump’s running mate. The only thing that could make this whole farce more entertaining would be if Trump has to campaign while serving time in a Federal minimum security spa (slash) correctional facility – and then gets elected anyway! I wanna see press photos of Trump signing executive orders from his prison cell!
oh please please let this be the outcome. What a great timeline.
Can you imagine foreign leaders coming into the federal supermax to meet with Trump? I would never stop laughing.
Commissary cookies will be the perfect snack while entertaining the leaders.
EU leaders getting the cavity search and then wanting to stay.
I wanna see press photos of Trump signing executive orders from his prison cell!
Really? I’m hoping for more of a gold-plated ankle bracelet in front of Mar-A-Lago, Geto Boys playing in the background, GTA - Presidential Edition advertisement/cover photo situation.
It's pretty sad when Christie is the least disgusting of the politicians in the cluster. It's almost as if each runner-up-wannabe has picked ONE policy topic to try to distance themselves from the others when it's clear none of them actually believes any of the policies, intending to abandon them the minute they drop out of the race or get elected.
Democracy, good and hard.
Yeah, I thought Christie was done on the national stage and didn't weep about it despite the fact he was a darling of the right for all of five minutes.
It's bizarre that guy is back, but I guess it's been along enough for people to forget how terrible he actually is.
>>Chris Christie on top?
good. God. no.
What if Shamu is the bottom?
We call him JB Pritzker here in Illinois.
pat answer is everyone has their kink but I'm not certain there is a camera big enough to record that scene.
IMAX.
lolz. it would have to be in THEYMAX
Is this a John McAfee "blowhole fucking" callback?
lol The Deep on line 2, wants directions to the party.
still enjoying Vivek flame-throwing the entire field.
"I get to [eat] my children, not anyone else," said Christie.
>>Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.) has decided he will leave Congress at the end of the year.
obvious play to injure (R) nobody will miss him or his ball.
Faint praise, but he wasn't quite as terrible as I feared.
he's proving to be one of the (R) who likes when (D) is in charge.
>>We haven't moved past the era of campus speaker shoutdowns?
Bari just lucky nobody hit her with a bullhorn.
No surprise that Reason has chosen to completely ignore any substantive Israel/Palestine coverage in favor of mere clickbait tags of same.
For example, a nonbinding resolution H894 Strongly condemning and denouncing the drastic rise of antisemitism in the United States and around the world has been a focus of Congress attention. With an interesting roll call outcome, debate re one phrase in the bill – “clearly and firmly states that anti-Zionism is antisemitism”, etc . All with 1A implications and the obvious intent of suppressing any questions or public discussion re the current Israel-Gaza War.
Fortunately with Reason (and the pro-ethnic-cleansing wing of commenters here) you can always bet on – crickets.
>>obvious intent of suppressing any questions or public discussion re the current Israel-Gaza War.
whose questions are being suppressed?
The same people who are paying for the bombs.
are you not free to ask all the questions?
the pro-ethnic-cleansing wing of commenters here
I didn't realize there were commenters here who were pro-Hamas as they're the ones attempting ethnic cleansing.
Knowing JFree he's probably a bit unclear on who 'Hamas' is or what they believe, but he's also pretty sure that 'white' people in the Middle East deserve whatever the 'brown' people think they deserve.
Basically, you'd have to believe that literal no-shit terrorism and the murder of civilians is a valid 'protest' to ensure the Jewish state and all of the Jews themselves cease to exist.
It's a special type of person that doesn't believe someone else when they tell you why they're murdering as many people as possible, and they are murdering because they think Jews shouldn't exist. They have other complaints that the media is happy to parrot, but this particular driving force gets no air time on the left.
"Knowing JFree he’s probably a bit unclear on who ‘Hamas’ is or what they believe"
He absolutely fucking knows and approves.
I don't call him J(ew)Free for nothing.
"Basically, you’d have to believe that literal no-shit terrorism and the murder of civilians is a valid ‘protest’ to ensure the Jewish state and all of the Jews themselves cease to exist."
I wouldn't call the past couple of months a 'protest.' Palestinians seem to have given up on protest recently. The risk of Israeli snipers shooting at unarmed demonstrators is too high. The Al Aqsa Flood is more accurately described as resistance, a counter attack on the occupation. The Jews of Israel will continue to exist. It's the continuation of the Jewish State that you should be concerned about, if you care about such things.
the protests are here & London where everyone is safe to be idiots.
"the protests are here & London where everyone is safe to be idiots"
People of Gaza are stuck in Gaza. And demonstrating there is likely to be met with Israeli sniper fire. You never saw mention of it in Reason though.
People in Gaza were given weeks to walk in many directions away from Gaza.
You're not paying attention. Walking in the vicinity of the fences in their protests is what got them shot. Protests by the Gazans against the Israeli occupation have proven to be futile and even fatal. Some actions like the Al Aqsa Flood are all but inevitable. That's not hard to understand no matter how short your attention span is.
'Many directions' = not true at all and you know it. And more important, you are simply defining ethnic cleansing - and approving of it.
Okay Herr Goebel.
I'm not familiar with Herr Goebel. Next time you want to engage in some slandering, stick with first tier Nazis, like Herr Goebbels. I'd prefer Goering, my favorite Nazi. He's the one who exposed the sham cynicism of Nazi antisemitism, when criticized for his continued employment of a Jewish chef, stated "in this city, I decide who's Jewish and who isn't."
"No surprise that Reason has chosen to completely ignore any substantive Israel/Palestine coverage in favor of mere clickbait tags of same."
I am quite surprised. The biggest anti war movement to arise in the past couple of decades, and it seems every Reason contributor sides with the genocidal ethnic cleansers. Apparently they've been convinced that anti war is now anti semitism.
"and the pro-ethnic-cleansing wing of commenters here"
Nothing is surprising about this lot. They can be relied on to continue to voice the ignorant, bigoted and cliched opinions of the politicians and pundits they follow.
And you're just here to spew nonsense, miscontrueman.
But you can't or won't refute anything I've written. Just tired ad hominem taunts and name calling. You're a bore, InsaneTrollLogic, but keep reading my comments, in any case. I appreciate that.
Antisemitism (and your tropes are antisemitic that you try to dress up in academic nonsense) deserves nothing more than derision. There is no need to counter your points since they are blatantly false and bigoted. I don't try to counter your co-partisans Misek either.
"There is no need to counter your points since they are blatantly false and bigoted."
I've seen the biggest demonstrations against war for decades. Jews Muslims, and Christians marching together under Palestinian banners. This to you is 'antisemitism.' You refusal or inability to make your case speaks for itself.
"Semitism and antiSemitism are tricks. We always use them." This was a response given during one of Amy Goodman's interviews on Democracy Now.
Most of the so called Jews in Israel have no Semitic DNA. None. They are kazars from way to the east in southern Russia and the Caucasus.
The same lot that have been kicked out of other countries more than a thousand times.
I don't think there's such a thing as semitic DNA. I think it's a language group including Arabic, Hebrew, and several other African and Asian languages. I agree there's much confusion around the use of the term.
The most common antisemitic tropes - by FAR - on this messageboard are the dual-loyalty tropes trafficked in by your ilk in using the term 'neocon'. No surprise at all that those who traffic in that trope are the first to accuse someone else of anti-semitism. Why is that I wonder?
Chris Christie will never be president, and his wild notion that parents should give "permission" to a five year old who want to transition because tiktok vids made it look cool should disqualify him as a person who should be taken seriously.
Reason says "Florida is the future!" then routinely goes after the man who made it happen. Yeah, Christie is right about Trump's protectionism. But gee, what was gas prices and cost of living when Trump was president again? If given the choice, most Americans would pay a dollar more for toasters rather than suffer hyperinflation.
For what it's worth, American products are subject to way more protectionism than imports here. Trump objected to this imbalance. Trade wars aren't the best way to address this, but remember, Trump was open to trade with NO tariffs on both sides.
Chris Christie is twice the man Vivek Ramaswamy is... literally.
And Chris Christie takes the cake for the biggest blowhard. The only reason he is running is because he hates Trump. It's his personal revenge tour.
Well, Christie might be right about Ramaswamy being an obnoxious blowhard. It takes one to know one.
I don't believe Ramaswamy is an obnoxious blowhard as he often says what needs to be said. The other polis are too scared or too corrupted to say it. He is, quite often correct in his assessments.
As for Chris Chrispykream, he doesn't stand a chance in hell of even getting near the nomination. Talk about a blowhard.Never vote for or elect anyone from New Jersey.
Haley is a neo-con, will do and say whatever Nudelman and kristol tell her. Pro israel and pro war.
DeSantis should have remained in Florida and remain as governor. He does a much better job. He needs to keep any aspirations of the presidency on hold for another four - six years.
Ramy is a bit too loud but then again, after all the nation has been through, it's going to take a bit of shaking things up if we are ever to get back on track again.
Any staff writer for 'Reason'?