Exit Poll: Most Voters Think Trump, Biden Should Not Run in 2024
Why can neither major party find someone who isn't decrepit and disliked?
Voters who went to the polls on Tuesday already dread what comes next.
A potential rematch between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump on Election Day 2024—just 362 sleeps away, it'll be here before you know it—is becoming depressingly more inevitable with each passing day. It's also a damning indictment of the two major parties, which can't manage to throw up any candidates capable of wresting power away from the pair of decrepit has-beens currently threatening the country with reliving the often-unwatchable 2020 campaign.
By now it's hardly news that both Trump and Biden are widely despised by most of the voting public, but an exit poll from yesterday's elections in Ohio might set the bar at a new record low. As CNN details: "Only about a quarter of voters said they think Biden should be running for president again. But former President Donald Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican nomination, fares little better: Only about a third of this electorate in Ohio thinks he should be running to retake the White House."
Trump won Ohio by about 8 points in both 2016 and 2020, and he'll almost certainly be the favorite there again in 2024—thank you, negative partisanship. But that's really saying something, given how few of the state's voters want him to be pursuing another White House bid.
If we were hurtling towards a rematch between an unpopular incumbent and an utterly unfit former incumbent, it would be bad enough. But this is also shaping up to be an election between the two oldest presidential candidates in history. If Trump wins, he'll take back the crown of being the oldest person ever inaugurated—which currently belongs to Biden, who took it from… Trump.
Both candidates have demonstrated ample evidence of mental decline over the past few years, and given their ages there is no reason to believe that trend will reverse itself.
For that matter, there's an increasing likelihood that one or both could be medically incapacitated—or worse—in the middle of the campaign. The best way to deal with that possibility would be for both to exit the race now or to be removed from it by their respective primary voters.
Since that seems unlikely, everyone might benefit from brushing up on the contingency plans that the Democratic and Republican parties have in place to deal with that possibility. As Liz Mair notes at Real Clear Politics, both parties have the authority to fill vacancies created by the death or incapacity of presidential nominees. In practice, that means somewhere between 160 and 200 people will get to hand-pick the Democratic or Republican nominee.
The silver lining to that outcome: Whoever gets picked would likely be less disliked than Trump and Biden are.
But that's an ugly outcome for American democracy. Then again, so is the current situation. Voters keep telling pollsters that they want someone—anyone, please—else to be running for president next year. They still have time to make that happen, but with Election Day 2023 in the rearview mirror, the clock is starting to run out.
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>>It’s also a damning indictment of the two major parties
idk it’s been a bit of a blast to watch the GOP implode & explode at the same time because T
edit: guess I can say the same thing for the Jackass Party too though lol
I have said before that the key here is Trump. Biden will beat Trump so why not stay in the race. If Republican field a younger and more competent candidate Democrats will have to respond.
Parody.
Except Trump isn’t a doddering, senile moron, amd has boundless energy. Biden has to go hide and recover in the basement for days after any exertion.
You are making a common mistake. People often look at the heavier person and assume them to be in better health. Biden is actually pretty normal for a person his age. His position, health and family history suggest he has many years ahead of him. We don’t know that is true for Trump. As for senility, I would argue, and, have that Trump shows more signs of senility than Biden. He has a short attention span, difficulty in understanding complicated things, increasing irritability. He makes as many gaffs as Biden but they are not as much scritinized. What is there to suggest boundless energy? He plays golf but how far does he walk, from the cart to the ball.
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Being a puppet, it doesn’t matter what shape Biden’s in.
Biden’s weight isn’t the issue; his obvious cognitive decline is. The man doesn’t know what country he’s in or the names of his own subordinates. And while Biden has been a moron, a liar, and a sociopath his entire life, this isn’t normal even for Biden.
D+
Biden will beat Trump
Not according to the latest polls, he won’t.
I have little doubt enough “fortification” will occur to elect any Democrat.
Ding ding ding
Yes, this is true but only if the election was held today and not a year from now. That same poll found that were Trump to be convicted in any of the number of court cases he has that the results would reverse, and Biden would win. I personally don’t think Trump will be the Republican nominee, because saying you support a candidate and actually voting for them are two different things. I think Republican voters will decide there is simply too much baggage and their desire to win the Presidency will win out.
Biden shouldn’t run anywhere. The geriatric methuselah has challenges just walking. Stairs? His kryptonite. No, Biden should not run.
Trump is just as mentally decrepit as Biden and is much fatter (that counts against him). Trump talks louder and faster than Biden but often makes no sense. Biden has a stutter on top of his cognitive decline.
Not even close. Biden is senile and had a 95 IQ on his best day, and that was close to 40 years ago. Before two major aneurysm surgeries. The second of which medically lobotomized him.
Trump clearly has above average intelligence and is still an energized bunny.
Keep fu*kn that chicken bro lol.
Are you shrikes replacement?
Boaf sidez
Maybe White Mike is back.
Biden was a dunce 30 years ago.
And his stutter does not make him try and shake hands with the air.
Fine…discuss the alternatives.
Team D: Newsome, Kennedy, Phillips, Williamson (my personal fave, lol), whoever else
Team R: DeSantis, Haley, Scott, Ramaswarmy (whatever, too many letters), Christie, and others
Team L: Can they not find someone with a brain, is articulate, has business experience, and doesn’t sound stark raving mad or wear face jewelry. Please? Do something more than just be a spoiler.
Independent: Gabbard, anyone else
Who are realistic alternatives, and how do they differ from the leading geriatric candidates?
>>Williamson (my personal fave, lol)
bet she’s a hoot to hang out with.
I’d put Newsome/O up but I hope they don’t
Even California is turning on Newsome.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-11-07/new-poll-finds-california-voters-disapprove-newsom-performance-governor
Pluggo/jeff ticket. Their campaign would focus on children. It would be touching.
The only question is, who’d be on top, Pluggo or Jeffy? Pluggo might due to Jeff’s obesity, but Pluggo strikes me as more of a bottom.
“We’re doing it for the kids”
Yeah, “It’s also a damning indictment of the two major parties” is a very… sarcasmic way to look at it.
One *could* come to the notion that actually half the country utterly despises the other half and that regardless of who’s chosen a majority of voters are going to think they shouldn’t run.
One also *could* come to the notion that they, themselves, don’t exactly walk on water and that people like that are rather hard to come by.
But, nah, let’s go with half the country hates mean Tweets and “grab them by the pussy” crassness… to the point that they’ll actually civilly punish the crassness without any actual evidence of pussy grabbing… while ignoring copious and documented pussy grabbing and worse… and the other half hates utter incompetence, dementia, corruption, foreign collusion, warmongering, and thinly veiled threats as though the two were just equivalently unpopular and rightly so.
The biggest issue for the Democrats is Biden’s age and so many possible candidates, certainly more than you mentioned. For Republican it only takes a younger and less criminal candidate. Again, many to chose from.
Parody.
D-
A younger and less criminal candidate than Biden (D)? That’s almost everyone.
Team L: Can they not find someone with a brain, is articulate, has business experience, and doesn’t sound stark raving mad or wear face jewelry. Please? Do something more than just be a spoiler.
Or BE A FUCKING SPOILER.
Elon runs on the LP ticket, pledges up to a dollar per person in the US ($335M) gets prorated inversely to the proportional turnout and divided evenly among individual new Twitter subscribers between now and Nov. 6.
The problem with Elon Musk is that he is ineligible. That pesky natural born citizen clause, and a distinct lack of Libertarian government officials around to fake up a domestic birth certificate.
Just get the 61st Amendment passed by the end of the year.
Nobody cared where Obama was born but now we’re supposed to get technical?
It’s pretty clear that Obama was born in Hawaii, but we’ve never seen his real birth certificate because there is something else on it that he or his handlers can’t allow us to see. We’ll probably never know what.
The problem with Elon Musk is that he is ineligible.
Maybe you didn’t click the link, he can’t hold the office. That doesn’t mean he can’t run a “None Of The Above” campaign.
Artificial Intelligence has been running the country for a couple decades, time to start Red Teaming it.
Michelle Obama.
Our first trans president.
You’re saying she has the balls to run?
Sure, I’ll step into this TDS-addled crowd. Starting with:
“Only about a quarter of voters said they think Biden should be running for president again. But former President Donald Trump, the front-runner for the 2024 Republican nomination, fares little better: Only about a third of this electorate in Ohio thinks he should be running to retake the White House.”
How does that jibe with hidin’ Biden “receiving” 80+million votes in 2020 vs. Trump’s 74 million? Answer: It doesn’t. The only other explanation is that “we used to think Biden sucked less than Trump, but now we changed our minds”.
Also, “utterly unfit former incumbent”? Unfit how, Mr. Boehm? Are you enjoying the TOTALLY AVOIDABLE violence in Ukraine and Gaza? You love spending more for gas, food, lodging, mortgages, and everything else? Because of Trump had been elected in 2020, Russia would not have had Nordstream 2 and would not have invaded Ukraine. As far as Gaza, at least the Trump State Dept was respected in that no one dared defy it.
Run? No way! I’d fear for their lives if either of them broke into a brisk jog.
Trump just won a golf tournament
Yes, but how far did he walk. He seems to keep close to the cart.
One could argue that at least he’s cognizant enough to play golf, unlike Biden for whom stairs are an issue.
Parody.
It’s true…POTUS Trump got game (golf, that is).
Polish that knob bro you sure are good at it!
The proof of Trump’s mental decline is one speech where he says Sioux Falls instead of Sioux City (85 miles separate the two where it takes over 3 hours to travel between anywhere noteworthy), and he said “Canya” instead of “Canada” (nobody ever flubs a word). Sure he’s old but definitely not at the same mental deficiency as wish I had “10% for the Big Guy” functioning brain cells.
The whole state is a cacophony of Siouxs and Cedars. they’re indistinguishable. Nobody can figure this shit out.
i’m fed up to here with the concern-trolling HyR bloggers hopelessly trying to convince freedom lovers that the style (which a lot of people actually love) of easily the most policy-favorable president of my lifetime and beyond makes him as bad as the demonstratedly awful incumbent. You know you’re full of shit, did you think the rest of us wouldn’t notice?
It’s sad.
Indeed.
“…easily the most policy-favorable president of my lifetime and beyond…”
One of Trump’s more favorable ( and overlooked) policies was less a policy than a sound libertarian act of reductionism. That is, to rid us of- or to seriously reduce-the swamp. By swamp, I include all things bureaucratic in DC, the intel crowd, and the justice department thugs. Add to that as you see fit.
To put that in context, I am old enough to recall Dr. Ron Paul once being interviewed by WF Buckley. Firing Line was the show.
Paul, then running for president ( who joking acknowledged he did so with zero intention of ever winning), was adamant about abolishing nearly every federal agency, as part of his symbolic campaign platform.
Trump will never mirror Paul’s libertarianism, but I’ll applaud his effort.
But you’ll strategically, if reluctantly, vote for Biden anyway.
Only if the nuclear holocaust doesn’t precede the election. Not that Eric’s vote matters anyway. The election is fully fortified before it even happens. Biden will be the forever president.
The real question is in the follow ups. Is it because people are better/worse off under each or is it the unhinged partisan coverage we have been subjected to under each that people look to avoid? Remove that biased coverage what do your numbers look like?
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And we should not be doing so. Biden should not be so gung-ho to start WW III, but I guess he feels it is a layer of electoral security.
Why can neither major party find someone who isn’t decrepit and disliked?
Because the overwhelmingly majority of voters end up voting for their ‘lesser evil’. As long they keep voting that way, then the lesson for the parties is ‘hold my beer. I’m sure we can find a worse candidate to test how low voters will go.’
20 years ago, Giant Douche v Turd Sandwich was apparently the good old days.
At least a Giant Douche is good for something. Can’t say the same for a Turd Sandwich.
‘Turd sandwich’ is just a soiled diaper that SQRLSY calls lunch.
He likes it when the peanuts are served in a sauce.
So that’s the peanuts Pluggo is always talking about.
Trump is nearly as mentally decrepit as Biden and is much fatter. His vice president might be president. Biden has a stutter on top of his cognitive decline.
Here’s Bill Barr on Trump.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYr72FcYec
Why can’t we nominate candidates under the age of 77?
Bill Barr should just crawl away in shame; what an awful human being.
The more that comes out regarding Weiss and Billy asking Pennsylvania to send materials through Delaware, the more I agree.
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hey look it’s The Map again
https://twitter.com/emmma_camp_/status/1721937937120559216?t=MpNEpVjuJqdS-wX7p80Y9w&s=19
Well this seems really bad.
I think a lot of political commentary underestimates just how little the median American knows about . . . anything.
The absolute lack of general knowledge most people have is astounding.
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Emma is sitting in a glass house and shouldn’t be throwing stones.
She most certainly should not
Unclear how Biden is “fit” to be President in ways Trump is not.
Why can neither major party find someone who isn’t decrepit and disliked?
Because the parties themselves are decrepit and disliked.
Also the deep state and media work overtime to promote the corrupt so they can be controlled.
https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1722367457665675532?t=K7E6YP4s7f8PKYKVlSgw_A&s=19
JUST IN: The man who went viral for having a meltdown after a Republican poll greeter said hi to him, has been exposed as Brendan Anthony Martin according to @MarcoPolo501c3.
Here is where things get interesting.
In 2018 while former President Trump was hosting a “Celebration of America” after disinviting the Philadelphia Eagles to the White House, he was heckled by a booing audience member.
The heckler? Brendan Anthony Martin as noted by @MarcoPolo501c3.
The heckler was captured by a photographer yelling at Trump (Image next to video below).
“Stop hiding behind the armed services and the National Anthem. Let’s hear it for the Eagles,” Martin reportedly shouted at the time.
It gets even worse.
Martin is a full time technical administrator for the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) foster care system according to his LinkedIn account.
This man should be nowhere near kids.
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Pretty much guarantees the antiwhite stuff was only the tip of the iceberg”
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The cover-up continues. Anything to protect the narrative.
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I love that a “journalist” claims the leak was misleading…but literally nothing came out to dispute it. Just social media (outside of X) working hard to stop discussion of it.
“Cops Violate Former Transgender Student’s 1A Rights” – Reason
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On November 8, 1994, 59% of California voters approved Prop 187 which banned illegal immigrants from using state services. Three days later a federal judge issued a restraining order preventing 187 from taking effect, and in 1997 another federal judge found 187 unconstitutional on the grounds it infringed on the federal government’s exclusive jurisdiction over immigration.
Today, we continue to see the federal government ignore the will of the people regarding illegal immigration, and the federal government continues to counteract steps border states take to reduce immigrants flowing into them.
The US federal government protects illegal immigrants interests more than the interests of their own citizens.
Biden (D) attended the casting call for Cocoon 3 but was rejected for each part due to being too old.
just 362 sleeps away
In Biden’s case, that would be around mid-February.
I am damn sure, though, that the Democrats are more likely to replace a mentally ailing Biden than the GOP to replace a mentally ailing Trump. He could degenerate into some babbling Lovecraftian horror before the loyalists would finally stop supporting him.
Cuthulu has my vote.
As the T-shirt slogan has it, “Vote Cthulhu – no lives matter”.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Killery lose 1 more time.
Is it her turn again?
Only if the Russians don’t interfere this time!
Everytime she had won the election for president – the Russians have sent time traveling agents back to interfere and change events.
Judgement Day cannot be stopped—it can only be postponed.
Unfortunately, both – in their quest to become King of America – don’t give a flying f what “most voters” think. They regard every single member of their respective voters as Useful Idiots.
And they’re not wrong. MAGA and Democrat (who, ironically, have a lot more in common with each other than either wants to admit) – they’re all just lemmings eager to jump off a cliff so long as it’s the right color.
Easy fix, don’t vote for them.
If these are the two candidates, I’m writing in Michael Bloomberg.
You managed to pick a candidate worse than both. Congrats.
What makes you think that Bloomberg is worse? He’s honest, incorruptible, more intelligent than either – but then that may well be true of the average planarian by now – and was a decent mayor of NY.
I dunno. Why didn’t Rand Paul start out on top of the list in 2016?