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Donald Trump

Trump's Stooges Flip

Plus: Greta Thunberg gets booted from Israeli schools, Spain gets even less serious about work, regulating skyline views, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.25.2023 9:35 AM

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Cooperation time: In August, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis brought racketeering charges against former President Donald Trump and 18 of his associates under Georgia's statute, on charges relating to their efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Over the last few days, three guilty pleas have followed: Sidney Powell to misdemeanor charges and Kenneth Chesebro and Jenna Ellis to felony charges. Now, Ellis, Chesebro, and Powell will cooperate with prosecutors.

"Proof of criminal intent is indispensable to the criminal cases against Trump, both in Georgia and in the federal election case," writes David French for The New York Times. "While the specific intent varies depending on the charge, each key claim requires proof of conscious wrongdoing—such as an intent to lie or the 'intent to have false votes cast.'" 

The lawyers flipping "may grant us greater visibility into Trump's state of mind during the effort to overturn the election," adds French. "The crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege prevents a criminal defendant from shielding his communications with his lawyers when those communications were in furtherance of a criminal scheme." 

Some, like Andrew McCarthy writing for National Review, argue that "Willis wildly overcharged the election-interference case and is now picking off some defendants on minor charges."

The upshot from French:

"As a general rule, when evaluating complex litigation, it is best not to think in terms of legal breakthroughs (though breakthroughs can certainly occur) but rather in terms of legal trench warfare. Think of seizing ground from your opponent yard by yard rather than mile by mile, and the question at each stage isn't so much who won and who lost but rather who advanced and who retreated. Willis has advanced, but it's too soon to tell how far."

Speaker update: Rep. Mike Johnson (R–La.) was chosen last night to be the new nominee for speaker of the House. This is after Minnesota's Tom Emmer dropped out, having spent much of yesterday securing votes.

Johnson, who is serving his fourth term in the House, was named to Donald Trump's impeachment defense team and "played a leading role in recruiting House Republicans to sign a legal brief supporting a lawsuit seeking to overturn the 2020 election results," reports The New York Times. He's a member of the House Judiciary Committee and the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government and is broadly well-liked by colleagues.

The House will probably vote on Johnson today; 217 votes must be secured to become speaker.

Make no mistake: "The United States does not seek conflict with Iran," U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told the United Nations Security Council yesterday. "But if Iran or its proxies attack US personnel anywhere, make no mistake: We will defend our people, we will defend our security, swiftly and decisively."

"To all the members of this council: If you, like the United States, want to prevent this conflict from spreading, tell Iran, tell its proxies—in public, in private, through every means—do not open another front against Israel in this conflict," Blinken continued.

Blinken is referring to the possibility of strikes escalating between Israel and Iran-backed Hezbollah on the much-watched northern front. Many observers fear that a ground invasion of Gaza with the intent of wiping out Hamas could trigger entry into the conflict from Hezbollah, seeing a weakened Israel and pushing them to fight on two fronts at once. 

Officials also report that strikes from other Iran-backed groups on U.S. targets have ramped up in recent days; back-channel talks with Iran have been ongoing, but Blinken's admonition yesterday was significant due to its public, urgent nature.


Scenes from New York:

Regulating skyline views would "guarantee a collective experience, a sense of shared identity and civic meaning, which can bind New Yorkers across generations and centuries," Jorge Otero-Pailos, the director of Columbia's historic preservation program, tells The New York Times. 

The best part is that this is mentioned immediately after a few paragraphs on how unaffordable the city has become. If only we could grasp the connection between the two!


QUICK HITS

  • Due to her posts on Hamas, the Israeli Ministry of Education will be removing any references to Greta Thunberg in school curricula. Forgive me, but I don't think Greta Thunberg should ever have been taught in Israeli schools.
  • No truer words:

Peronism is crazy pic.twitter.com/tt59D8gku1

— Santi Ruiz (@rSanti97) October 23, 2023

  • "Mr. Emhoff, the husband of Kamala Harris, is the first Jewish spouse of a president or vice president," reads a New York Times subheading. "He has focused on providing comfort to people in pain after the Hamas attack." Doesn't this read like a press release?
  • Bad move by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis:

NEW: Governor DeSantis just ordered the University of Florida and the University of South Florida to deactivate their "Students for Justice in Palestine" groups for violating Florida's laws against antisemitism. pic.twitter.com/Y3B6hLnRJZ

— Mary Margaret Olohan (@MaryMargOlohan) October 24, 2023

  • Comparing the tech industries in the U.S. and the E.U. (Good observations here, here, and here. Tough but fair, from Paul Graham. Is European (lack of) venture capital also part of the equation? Genuinely asking.)
  • Color me skeptical that Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, misheard that recent question on antisemitism.
  • In Spain, the workweek will drop from 40 hours to 37.5, at least if acting Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez and Labor Minister Yolanda Diaz ("a card-carrying Communist," per Bloomberg) get their deal passed. "The minimum wage has risen by about 47% since Sanchez first formed a government in 2018." Amusingly, a 2019 report from BBVA Research notes that "productivity growth has been one of the Spanish economy's chronic weaknesses." What a stumper!
  • "Who is the Greatest Economist of all Time and Why Does it Matter?" Check out economist Tyler Cowen's generative book. "This book is not just the text, it's the text plus what you use AI to do with it," writes Cowen.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Trump's Stooges Flip

    He may not have been surrounding himself with the best and brightest.

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      Why, I oughta...

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      He brought in Joe besser?

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

      Ron Asheton would never. Iggy would.

    4. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      That's what happens when you bring in Schemp instead of Curly.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        Curly Joe singing like a canary.

    5. Roberta   2 years ago

      My first thought at that headline was that Trump had changed his opinion about the band. My next was that they'd recorded a number about him on a B side.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    "Willis wildly overcharged the election-interference case and is now picking off some defendants on minor charges."

    A prosecutor? Overcharging? In a political prosecution? I can't even believe it.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Banana republics don't grow on trees.

  3. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Really disappointed in Reason here. They of course discussed overcharging in regards to Hunter and took the nominal libertarian stance on overcharging when it was a dem.

    They did not do so for these Ga cases despite it being far more obvious.

    Facing 15 years, plead to zero years. Small fine. Record expungement post probation.

    Ga is executing the definition of overcharging for political reasons. And the take here is "everyone is flipping!" No. They are taking the least risk least cost approach. Ga didn't even get proffer agreements in place.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      The difference is that the laws Hunter are being charged with are blatantly unconstitutional, being drug and gun related. Can't say the same about Trump and his conspirators.

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Lying on government forms is not unconstitutional.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          And I fully expect resident Republicans to abandon any libertarian principles they might have so they can defend the charges against Hunter.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            You expect them to do what you already did here?

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            His father was behind many of those laws. Forgive me if I don't empathize with the need RIGHT NOW to undo them.

            Fuck the Biden crime family.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Personal animosity trumps principles. Gotcha.

              1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                Lol, your so dishonest. Everyone can see what damikesc wrote.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Yes. He wrote that he wants to keep unconstitutional laws on the books while they're being used against someone he doesn't like. Animosity trumps principles.

                  1. damikesc   2 years ago

                    No. I'm not for doing away with bad laws the moment it negatively impacts somebody who advocated and passed those laws.

                    Hunter can always fight the Constitutionality if he so wishes, but until SCOTUS strikes them down, he should be penalized as a random person would have been long before now. If he wins the case, I'll applaud him and then demand that Joe be brought up on conspiracy charges for passing laws he knew to be unconstitutional.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I'm for doing away with bad laws regardless of who they're being applied to.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Yet you only advocate to do so when it is the dem presidents son. As you applaud the unconstitutional lawfare against Trump and others for daring to speak or petition government.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                What you've been doing for 7 years at this point hypocrite.

          3. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

            "And I fully expect resident Republicans to abandon any libertarian principles they might have so they can defend the charges against Hunter."

            Maybe not expect, but that's certainly what you'll accuse everyone of, while deliberately ignoring the basic facts.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              "Maybe not expect, but that’s certainly what you’ll accuse everyone of, while deliberately ignoring the basic facts."

              While s/he abandons any whiff of libertarianism as regards the Trump witch hunt.

          4. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

            Hunter Biden laptop story navigates an alphabet agency/media maze of skullduggery, shows clear evidence of collusion with Ukraine, the sitting president, and direct payoffs and quid pro quo.

            Prosecutors finally agree to throw some charges at Hunter, to make the real story go away.

            Reason's take: Hey man, the drug war is like, bullshit man...

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          There wasn't even lying on any firms. The SoS never signed the form. Youre allowed to have forms filled out.

          This was the same process as 1964 to assuage constitutional concerns.

          Sarc is just ignorant of history and the process as usual.

        3. aajax   2 years ago

          Neither is murder.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        How did I know you were for political prosecutions and against free speech. Some of the charges on Ga included telling people to watch television news.

        The primary charge of electors is also bullshit as they copied the 1964 terms in Hawaii. The constitution has explicit dates needed for electors. Since court cases continued, alternate electors were selected to satiate constitutional requirements, as was done in 1964.

        You aren't principled. You openly support lawfare.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Glad to know you fully support the unconstitutional war on drugs (to make it constitutional they'd need an amendment like they did with alcohol prohibition) and laws violating the Second Amendment.

          Not that I'm surprised. For you everything is personal. You'd support any unconstitutional law if it was used against someone you don't like.

          1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

            "Glad to know you fully support the unconstitutional war on drugs"

            This must be Tulpa. Sarcasmic swears he never accuses people of saying things they never said. It's everyone else who does it to him.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            What the fuck is wrong with you? Go to any drug thread and I’m against personal use charges retard. And I’m bigger 2a supporter than you fuckhead who you thought it sucked Rittenhouse was found not guilty.

            You are gleeful on this prosecution. So it gets pointed out and you just straight up lie to try to counter an argument? You truly are a desperate piece of shit sarc.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

              Yet you fully support all the charges against Hunter.

              So you’re lying about supporting the charges or you’re lying about supporting the Constitution.

              Can’t support both.

              Which is more important, the Constitution or your hatred for the Biden family?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                I support equal application of the law you retarded fuck. It doesn't mean I agree with the law. But until changed everyone should be treated equally. Not carve outs for politicians sons. I even said that in the fucking thread desperate pos.

                For Hunter the tax evasion and FARA has been my focus, not the gun charge. Again. Youre desperately lying as you openly support political lawfare.

                You put zero thought into any argument here except what can make your enemies look bad.

                You talk about the constitution but openly applaud disparate use of the legal system for political entities you hate.

                Youre projecting buddy. Youre open about your support of state powers against your perceived enemies form Rittenhouse, to Babbitt, to Trump, to trumps lawyers, to Alex jones, to proud boys. You openly support and proudly mock political lawfare.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  I support equal application of the law you retarded fuck. It doesn’t mean I agree with the law. But until changed everyone should be treated equally. Not carve outs for politicians sons.

                  Which confirms what I said. Unconstitutional laws are wonderful when used against the Bidens.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Hey retard. Equal application of the law IS A CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT. Which you don't give a fuck about if it can be used against your enemies and help your dem allies

                    Even here you are supporting charges regarding petitions of government and free speech. So fuck off with your lies.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                I mean the fact that you support the DoJ trying to give the President's son broad immunity in a plea deal over guns just shows your retarded blind bias for dems. They tried to absolve him of multiple non related crimes under the diversion deal. And you are now saying people against this are the ones being political. Lol. Youre nothing but a dem defending neocon at this point dumbass.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Amazing how when you use me and the word "support" in a sentence, everything that follows is a lie.

                  That's a heck of a talent you've got there.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    What is the lie sarc. Be specific. So far only you have lied here about my stances to try to hide your blind hypocrisy. Your open support of politics in the execution of laws. You'll defend hunters once in a lifetime diversion agreement then cheer on Mackey 7 months over a meme.

                    Youre a literal piece of shit sarc.

              3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                Do you think that supporting equal application is the same as actually supporting the laws? I don’t understand your logic here.

                Equal application of the law, especially when it come to those who are politically connected, is a bedrock principle of liberty and America itself.

                I don’t think I’ve seen anyone say that these laws are good, just that Hunter shouldn’t get off because his last name is Biden where you or I would already be in federal pound me in the ass prison.

          3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

            You can make an argument that federal drug laws are unconstititutional. You may even be absolutely correct. The problem is that is at best a fringe opinion in the federal judiciary, so the de facto reality is that federal drug laws are constitutional, and the position you espouse is in tinfoil hat territory, much like the argument that federal income taxes are unconstitutional.

        2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

          You don't even know the dates you are talking about. LBJ won Hawaii going away in 1964.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            You've been given the links to the alternate electors as lawsuits continued. This is why it is useless giving the intentionally ignorant links. They just don't care.

            1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

              However, on0-the-fence lurkers would care, and would read the difference.

              My longtime Usenet ally, Christopher Charles Morton, wrote that his replies were aimed to persuade the fence-sitters.

      3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        Right, those charges are unconstitutional. The RICO charges that involve Trump of conspiring with lawyers to break the law with their legal objections, those are perfectly sound.

      4. DesigNate   2 years ago

        The idea they violated RICO (which some could argue is also blatantly unconstitutional) is fucking laughable.

    2. HorseConch   2 years ago

      I don't follow lawfare closely, but I would think diversion programs for people facing decades in prison is not exactly how the system typically works.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        It isnt. Joe even signed a regulatory order mandating min 1 year for the charges Hunter was guilty of. That is why Hunter was being mocked, as he was the solitary exception to a piece of paper Joe signed.

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Ga didn’t even get proffer agreements in place.

      Without that it seems like they could just as easily plead the 5th when called to testify against Trump or just give vague, non-committal answers that don't provide any substantive evidence of any wrong doing on Trump's part. So how exactly have any of them "flipped?" We won't know for sure if any of them have flipped until they testify and we see what, if anything, they say. Until then this seems like just another example of "walls closing in ... any day now ... we've got him this time" bullshit we've seen a million times already.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Probation included testifying if asked. They can't plead the 5th or they violate terms.

        But likely their testimony doesn't do much. DA didn't even ask them what they would testify to. It is pure headline generation. The biggest effect will be on juries as the DA can claim everyone pleaded guilty. Testimony doesn't matter.

      2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        It's all about trying him in the court of public opinion through dishonest propagandists like Jacob.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    "But if Iran or its proxies attack US personnel anywhere, make no mistake: We will defend our people, we will defend our security, swiftly and decisively."

    Although we're not entirely sure what difference, at some later point, it will make.

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Just like we did when a terrorist group killed and kidnapped Americans damn near a month ago?
      All talk, no action.
      The military is too busy with gender studies and trans surgery to be bothered with the inconvenience of an actual battle.
      Besides, SOMEBODY gave away all our weapons in Afghanistan and Ukraine. And sold all the oil we need to propel ships and tanks and stuff.
      But no tweets is the same as no mean tweets, so it's all good.
      (if you are a fascist)

      1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

        At least the adults are back in charge. Can you imagine all of this happening while Trump was in office?

        1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          No.
          I cannot envision a scenario in which this would / will happen during a Trump administration.

          (I am reminded that the Iranian hostages, before they started using proxies, were released the day Reagan took office)

          1. aajax   2 years ago

            Was that the Reagan that sold arms to Iran to illegally support the Contras?

    2. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1717072618053107761?t=Rwg3PJ_IlksxxoBdhre4ng&s=19

      The Pentagon is deploying two carrier strike groups, eleven Burke-class destroyers, a number of Ticonderoga-class cruisers, amphibious assault ships, THAAD and Patriot missile defense systems, multiple squadrons of fighter jets, strategic bombers, and undisclosed assets to the Middle East.

      The Pentagon expects Iranian proxies to continue to target U.S. troops in the region and has already stated that they will respond "decisively."

      What's the probability that this escalates into a war between the United States and Iran?

      PENTAGON: "Between October 17th and the 24th, U.S. and coalition forces have been attacked at least ten separate times in Iraq and three separate times in Syria via a mix of one-way attack drones and rockets...

      We know that the groups conducting these attacks are supported by the IRGC and the Iranian regime. We are seeing the prospect for more significant escalation against U.S. forces and personnel across the region in the near term coming from Iranian proxy forces and, ultimately, from Iran.

      So, by virtue of our announcement over the weekend, we are preparing for this escalation, both in terms of defending our forces and responding decisively."

      [Link]

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        "What’s the probability that this escalates into a war between the United States and Iran?"

        Which kind of Middle East War? Bush 1 or Bush 2?

  5. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

    Chemjeff and Sqrlsy smile.

    Newsguard Case Highlights the Pentagon's Censorship End-Around
    Consortium News lawsuit against a private news rating system lays out how the government can suppress speech by proxy

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Regulating skyline views would "guarantee a collective experience, a sense of shared identity and civic meaning, which can bind New Yorkers across generations and centuries..."

    Then knock down the Freedom tower and re-erect the twin towers.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Too soon!!!!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        From rally videos it looks like we have enough interested college students to tackle that first part.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          As long as actual physical labor is not required.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Fly a plane into you, your done

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        This steel don't melt.

    3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

      THE SO-CALLED FREEDOM TOWER IS AN ABOMINATION, BRING BACK THE TWIN TOWERS.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

        BRING BACK THE KLIMASZEWSKI TWINS!

        Ftfy.

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Reap what you sow. Dem union workers being replaced with low wage subsidized by tax dollar illegal immigrants in LA.

    https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-10-23/hotels-are-replacing-striking-workers-with-migrants-from-skid-row-shelter

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      LOL

      #CheapLaborAboveAll

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      Gold!

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Dem union workers being replaced with low wage subsidized by tax dollar illegal immigrants in LA.

      Maybe they can learn to code? Cue sad trombone.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Somehow this is Trump's fault.

    5. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Except, of course, they're not "illegal immigrants", and the article you cited says: "Refugees and asylum seekers are legally allowed to seek work in the U.S."

  8. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

    Bad move by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis:

    NEW: Governor DeSantis just ordered the University of Florida and the University of South Florida to deactivate their "Students for Justice in Palestine" groups for violating Florida's laws against antisemitism.

    Read the memos. DeSantis is obligated to remove any known terrorist supporters.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Yeah, the letter doesn't mention 'antisemitism' anywhere, and instead referenced a law against supplying material support to designated international terrorist organisations.

      It also says the students / groups are welcome re-apply their organisations in a manner which complies with Florida law.

      I think that it's important to note that officially recognized student organizations typically receive funding from their universities. Monies from taxpayers and from student fees. Disbanding these chapters for violating Florida law isn't preventing any of these students from speaking their minds, but it does prevent the university from funding them.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

        Did they send food or aid to Hamas, provide them with technical expertise, or any of the defined meanings for material support?

        If so they shouldn't be disbanded, they should be prosecuted to the full extent. If not than, disbandment isn't justified per the legal definition.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          I agree with this.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      I too support justice for palistine... However I think I have a different way of achieving that

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      About SJP:

      The struggle for a just and free Palestine is a struggle for Black liberation, gender and sexual freedom, a livable and beautiful planet, and a world where everyone’s basic needs are met and their rights are respected.....We will continue to fight against white supremacy, Zionism, antisemitism, Islamophobia, sexism, capitalism, militarism, imperialism, homophobia, transphobia and all other political institutions that continue to oppress marginalized folks.

      https://nationalsjp.squarespace.com/about

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        "The struggle for a just and free Palestine is a struggle for Black liberation, gender and sexual freedom, a livable and beautiful planet, and a world where everyone’s basic needs are met and their rights are respected"

        Do these fucking retards have any idea of how the people in Gaza would react to a Pride Parade?

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          With the rockets' red glare?

        2. Moonrocks   2 years ago

          It doesn't really matter. This is just "Palestinian"-flavored marxism.

        3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

          The life expectancy of the LBG crowd in Gaza is measured by the height of the building from which they are thrown.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            32ft/sec/sec.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Hey, they use the metric system there and wouldn't know what the fuck a foot was. 9.75m/square second. 😉

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        OMF'gG!

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Read the memos. DeSantis is obligated to remove any known terrorist supporters.

      And, even if he weren't, I find Reason's seemingly motivated, if not blatant, conflation of Free Speech and calls to violence and associated denial or refusal of any overlap (to say nothing of people speaking vs. State Universities providing them a platform) to be far more deleterious to Reason than Ron's actions to his Governorship and/or Presidential campaign.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        The Students were just parading. There was no attack. Rhetoric, even violent rhetoric is free speech. These charges are clearly politically motivated.

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          Wait, parading? Now they've escalated to insurrection and need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and beyond.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      And I suspect all the Jewish migrants from the northeast that have settled in Florida the last 3 years might actually end up rewarding him with future money and political support, even if he's not taking over Trump this time around.

  9. JesseAz   2 years ago

    ACLU
    @ACLU
    BREAKING: We're suing Tennessee for their “aggravated prostitution” statute that targets people with HIV with harsh punishment and lifetime sex offender registration.
    .
    This law is unconstitutional and disproportionately affects Black and transgender women.

    I learned it from watching Fauci. ACLU protects the right to make money intentionally spreading HIV.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      It's even funnier given how supportive this same ACLU was for vaccine mandates.

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        That was different, HIV is nowhere near as dangerous.

        1. HorseConch   2 years ago

          Can't they make someone wear a cloth mask and prevent it?

          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago (edited)

            Some kind of ‘hat’ maybe.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

              Or a little rain coat.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      Wouldn't that be a bit like saying that laws against murder disproportionately affect black men?

      Seems kinda racist.

    3. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago (edited)

      ….disproportionately affects Black and transgender women.

      Duh. Blacks are the majority of prostitutes in the US.

    4. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      HIV is a potentially deadly sexually transmitted disease. Knowingly exposing strangers to HIV without their consent is arguably a potentially deadly assault. The idea that someone who carries HIV is in a protected class (that due to the nature of HIV tranmission affects members of that class disproportionately) and should be free to engage in high risk behavior for transmitting a disease is just a bizarre argument.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        Especially considering that their position on mandatory Covid vaccinations was:

        "Vaccines are a justifiable intrusion on autonomy and bodily integrity. That may sound ominous, because we all have the fundamental right to bodily integrity and to make our own health care decisions. But these rights are not absolute. They do not include the right to inflict harm on others."

        (emphasis mine)
        https://twitter.com/HolyMeekrob/status/1716950445535699204

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          It's all about which team cheers what outcome. The ACLU gave up on "principles" a long time ago, if they ever actually had any.

    5. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      This law is unconstitutional and disproportionately affects Black and transgender women.

      Isn't it racist and transphobic to imply that black people and trannies are more likely to have HIV?

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Shhhh, you’re not supposed to notice their blatant racism.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The best part is that this is mentioned immediately after a few paragraphs on how unaffordable the city has become.

    Can't have a shared, insular experience if you build housing for a lot of new people.

  11. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Texas is suing Biden for destroying the barriers put up on state land with state dollars.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/texas-sues-biden-administration-over-federal-efforts-destroy-border

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      They should arrest the feds who did it.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Texas NG should be called in to arrest (shoot?) the feds destroying border impediments. Fuck suing.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Due to her posts on Hamas, the Israeli Ministry of Education will be removing any references to Greta Thunberg in school curricula.

    You stole her legacy. How dare you.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/66890686@N02/51686573242/in/dateposted-public/

  13. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "acting Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez"

    Seems the Vote for Summer campaign wasn't persuasive.

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      It was the t-shirts that put him over the top.

    2. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      All their wildest dreams are coming true!

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Pedro offers you his protection.

  14. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Shrike thinks gen Z votes republican as they are one of the biggest supporters of the Hamas terrorist attacks.

    https://www.newsweek.com/insane-number-gen-zers-support-hamass-slaughter-innocent-israelis-opinion-1837422

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Can you imagine people in the streets supporting Al Qeada after 9/11? (People other than Obama's mentor the good Rev. Wright)

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        They would have been run out on a rail!

      2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        There were a few. The New Jersey Palestinians handing out candy story hasn't been confirmed.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      My usual response to anything stupid coming from Gen Z: What, the facial piercings didn't give it away?

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Doesn't this read like a press release?

    Well, at least they've moved from Hamas stenography back to White House stenography.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      There is a difference?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Fewer Allah Akbars!

        1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

          Allah Akbars with Nuts.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Governor DeSantis just ordered the University of Florida and the University of South Florida to deactivate their "Students for Justice in Palestine" groups for violating Florida's laws against antisemitism.

    Great. Now I have to photoshop everyone into a Nazi uniform.

  17. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

    "But if Iran or its proxies attack US personnel anywhere, make no mistake: We will defend our people, we will defend our security, swiftly and decisively."

    A perfect example of a statement by a bureaucrat, where the words just come out, like a balloon in a comic strip, and float off into space, with no connection to reality whatsoever.

    Hey Blinken - Iran and its proxies have already attacked US personnel, starting in 1979 and continuing up to today.

  18. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Pentagon has been using Newsguard to censor Americans.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-newsguard-case-highlights-pentagons-censorship-end-around

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      It's for our own good. And Democracy!

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      I am shocked, shocked to hear there is censorship going on here.

  19. SRG2   2 years ago

    And Mark Meadows has been granted immunity - or as JesseAz would say, he's being undercharged.

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      The pleasure you must get watching political enemies being threatened and charged for lawyering must be intense. Almost makes me want to join the fascist side too.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        They don't even hide their glee over political use of lawfare. The true useful idiots of authoritarians.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Lawfare? You wingnuts trot that term out a lot lately. The irony is that Donnie is the father of lawfare with his sidepiece mafia lawyer Roy Cohn.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Cite?

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd lies; there's your cite.

              1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

                Pretty much, he'll spit out some sort of crazy accusation and then run away. Pluggo and Run.

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            TDS year 7.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              It's a shame TDS isn't both acute and fatal. It seems to be chronic and lingering.

              1. SRG2   2 years ago

                Don't confuse TDS with having a sense of humour.

              2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

                Indeed.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      He was granted immunity for saying he didn't believe the election was stolen which has no bearing on the thoughts of Trump. If that is the precedent you want to set in trials of establishing intent by what others thought youre dumber than I took you for shrike.

      Like sarc please don't claim your principled as you support lawfare.

  20. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

    What went on here is terrifying. The establishment government actors wanted to foment social unrest to get Trump so they lynched a few cops.

    Chauvin Did Not Murder George Floyd
    And prosecutors knew it.

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Chauvin was indisputably a dirty cop, so my heart does not bleed for him. The one guy who wanted to roll him over and then performed CPR on him, and the other guy who had his back to Floyd because he was watching the angry crowd, those guys I really have sympathy for. They were basically sacrificed to an angry mob.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Doesn't change the fact if the original autopsy report was changed for political reasons and the coroner did so out of concern for his job.

      2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        Even shitty cops shouldn't be imprisoned for murdering someone who wasn't murdered.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          True, but his tax crimes are likely to keep him in prison for 40 years even if the murder charge got appealed.

      3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Having mostly tuned it all out for my own sanity, can you give a short version of that "indisputably dirty"?

        I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just haven't heard it.

        1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago (edited)

          Guy owned a second house in Florida, and reporting big purchases, like his vehicles, as Florida purchases to avoid taxes. I mean, fuck taxes, so good on him for buying things in Florida where taxes are lower, but he was a cop hiding money, supposedly getting a bunch of extra income working security but he had about half a million in unreported income. And that’s just the income that was discovered quickly.

          Almost no doubt he lots of off-the-book revenue sources as a result of his time on the force.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            I have a pretty difficult time getting upset at even a cop for avoiding stupid bullshit taxes.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      What went on here is terrifying. The establishment government actors wanted to foment social unrest to get Trump so they lynched a few cops.

      The media actually tried kicking things off with the Ahmad Aubrey case, but it wasn't getting the traction they needed. Floyd dying of a drug overdose from horfing his stash Super Troopers-style, while Chauvin used a bog-standard restraint technique, was what finally took.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      But we can all still agree that America is systemically racist, right?

  21. JesseAz   2 years ago

    2 dozen troops have already been injured in Middle East attacks.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/macron-wants-anti-isis-coalition-fight-hamas-presses-bibi-clarity-about-endgame

  22. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    I thought we were Done with the retard David French?

    Also this is great precedent, arrest all defence attorneys

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Indeed. Any lawyer who defended a guilty client should now face prison time.

      Also, all of Gore's legal team in 2000.
      All of the progs in 2016 who tried to forment bad faith electors as well.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        This is a one time exemption for sure.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          It should not be a one-time exception.

          Should this precedent be set, this should be the new normal.

    2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      David French, George Wills, Liz Cheney, why don't these and other understand that conservatism is not about ideas and Principles. Conservatism is defined by your loyalty to Trump.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Trump Populism has lethally infected the Republican Party. As a liberal I support the free movement of people, capital, and trade. Trump-tards oppose everything in classical economics and favor provincialism a crude form of feudalism.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          TDS has lethally infected the Democratic Party. Liberals can no longer think rationally about anything they think is connected to Trump, and favor a new age of fascism.

          BTW feudalism, with a select group of elites lording over a mass of peasants better describes the modern left.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            I frequently refer to the Democrats as neofeudalists.

          2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

            Trump derangement isn't a syndrome; it's a fact.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Trump-tards oppose everything in classical economics and favor provincialism a crude form of feudalism.

          LOL, you literally shill for people who want to implement "15-minute cities" for the masses while they get special carve-out exemptions for themselves. The fuck you think you're trying to kid here, you hicklib pederast?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

            Literally literally?

        4. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          "David French, Liz Cheney"

          Those poor, poor neocon warmongers, fortunately brave libertinearians like Mod and Plugstick are here to stick up for their principles.

        5. DesigNate   2 years ago

          You’re not a liberal, classical or otherwise

      2. damikesc   2 years ago

        Funny hearing this when David French has walked back every single stance he ever took before 2015. Ditto Liz Cheney.

        I'd call French and Cheney prostitutes, but hookers provide a wanted service.

        1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          The only principles that Cheney and French haven't abandoned are their neocon principles.

          Seeing Buttplug quickly rush to their defence tells me all I need to know.

      3. HorseConch   2 years ago

        Those are definitely the 3 I would hold up as shining examples of principled.

      4. Zeb   2 years ago

        There are a lot of people here, including me, who are not fans of Trump, let alone loyal to him, who nevertheless think these prosecutions are unreasonable and entirely politically motivated.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          entirely politically motivated

          You hit the crazy branch on the tree with "entirely". Partly? Sure. But his administration was the most corrupt ever with 12 (twelve) convictions. 91 charges in four jurisdictions. He admitted to illegal actions in withholding secret documents.

          It's like saying Ted Bundy was set up by prosecutors.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Defends political execution of law by stating outcome of the political execution of the law. What was castros numbers of successful convictions against his enemies?

            1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

              You can't say that Stalin was politicizing the criminal process because all of his political enemies were actually convicted of crimes!

          2. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

          3. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

            "But his administration was the most corrupt ever with 12 (twelve) convictions. 91 charges in four jurisdictions."

            You can ask him, but Buttplug wil never, never tell you clearly what those "convictions and charges" were actually for.

            Hitler charged virtually every single political detainee in his camps with a phony crime too".

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

              Der Bidenfuehrer?

        2. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

          Even if you were an alien from outer space or a straight statistically driven AI there’s plenty of “WTH?” going on. Even in just the “There is no WTH going on, this is completely normal.” reactionary counter-propaganda.

          Edit: Case-in-point - Reason quoting David French talking openly about Trench Lawfare against a former President and leading candidate as though it were just "some people said some things".

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            It's disgusting that consulting with lawyers over what your legal options are for contesting a government result is being charged as an illegal conspiracy. Trump's mere legal strategizing about how to proceed on claims he seems to have believed is sufficient evidence to pierce the very privilege those conversations are supposed to have.

            The whole prosecution is an insane attack on first, fifth, and sixth amendment grounds. And it's being carried out on the leading opposition candidate to the current administration making it appear to be nakedly a power grab.

            Biden's DOJ is doing the exact damn thing that Trump's first impeachment was about.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              "Biden’s DOJ is doing the exact damn thing that Trump’s first impeachment was about."

              And wasn't doing.

      5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        David French, George Wills, Liz Cheney, why don’t these and other understand that conservatism is not about ideas and Principles.

        What "ideas and principles"? They and your side use this catchphrase a lot, but as we've seen, these same people will readily abandon any such "principles" when it's convenient for them to do so, and their "ideas" are mostly hot air and glittering generalities that have no actual appeal to anyone outside the Beltway cocktail class.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          The silence here is deafening.

      6. DesigNate   2 years ago

        David French and Liz Cheney are bog standard chicken hawks. The fact that you and shrike hold them up as some kind of paragon of conservative virtue when 7 years ago you were screaming they were baby killing racists should tell everyone what their, and your, values are.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Color me skeptical that Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, misheard that recent question on antisemitism.

    Pivoting from a question asked about rising antisemitism immediately to concern for Muslims totally doesn't sound like something this administration's press secretary would do on purpose.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...a 2019 report from BBVA Research notes that "productivity growth has been one of the Spanish economy's chronic weaknesses."

    That just means they're doing socialism correctly.

  25. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Race baiting 'Down Low Bro' doing what he does best - running with the race card:

    Tim Scott blasts left's 'radical weaponization of race' in inner cities and desire for 'fatherless' America
    Scott told Fox News Digital his policies can earn a third of the Black male vote

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tim-scott-blasts-lefts-radical-weaponization-race-inner-cities-desire-fatherless-america

    We get it, bro. Race card all the time, every time, race race race and mo race.

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      "Race baiting ‘Down Low Bro’ doing what he does best"

      Literally what you do every day. Race bait against Tim Scott.

      Race card every single post, every time, racism racism racism and more racism.

      Even in this post you went minstrel.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Timmy! is the one running for president.

        Using race as his platform.

        In IOWA. Think for once. In Iowa. Does Iowa have a fatherless baby-momma black problem? It makes no sense unless he is running as the racist candidate - a lane Donnie owns by himself.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. BigT   2 years ago

          Exactly. I recall Trump saying: “You ain’t black if you vote for Trump.”

          Obv racism!!

        3. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          "In IOWA. Think for once. In Iowa. Does Iowa have a fatherless baby-momma black problem?"

          He's talking about inner cities across the country and isn't just running for president of Iowa, but you knew that, you racist fuck.

          1. rbike   2 years ago

            Not worth unmuting even though you appear to be discussing my state.

        4. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

          Hillary Clinton Don't feel no ways tard, tard.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      I love that your socks are so OK with your bigotry.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        I don't have socks. I want all the Peanut hate for myself.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          By "Peanuts", of course, you mean pre-K children.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            He definitely watches Charlie brown porn.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Oh, but you do here, Shrike.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. DesigNate   2 years ago

      Thanks for showing everyone, again, what a racist piece of shit you are.

    5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Lol. Reasons resident nazi identifier is lamenting an over emphasis on race. Too funny.

      You’re a fucking moron.

  26. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    Minister Pedro Sanchez and Labor Minister Yolanda Diaz

    You have their word as a Spaniards, no good I know too many spaniards

  27. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    Greatest economist of all time? Adam smith.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      These guys:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKOWcs8w54

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      Worst has to be Thomas Malthus; how wrong can you get?

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Not Krugnuts?

  28. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/GreeneMan6/status/1717036310483857638?t=aovD5_TOn2P1Kcaq3ma6bw&s=19

    “Hey guys, I know that during the last two weeks we have totally undermined our own positions against nationalism, collectivism, and ethnic solidarity, but have you seen what the OTHER SIDE is doing?”

    [Link]

  29. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/FrankDeScushin/status/1717165085527863411?t=Zd8u2eT1aDE9uwMYnruHMA&s=19

    "Facts don't care about your feelings" is Ben Shapiro's tagline, yet Ben's feelings, based on his identity, determine his Israel position.

    Ben says moral morons "ignore the beginning of every war", and then immediately proceeds to pretend the Israel-Palestine war began on October 7th rather than dating back to the formation of Israel.

    This isn't to condemn either Israel or Ben, I understand their positions. It's to point out that even those who say feelings or identity shouldn't matter, like Ben, still largely base their positions on feelings deriving from their identity, and they then choose which facts to highlight or omit that support their feelings.

    That's human nature, and that's why having many identities within one country causes division along identity lines.

    Note that of the celebrities expressing sympathy for Palestinians, Ben has the most contempt for Jon Stewart. It's likely because Stewart is Jewish and Ben views Jon's position as being a sellout to Jews.

    We're told white identity is wrong, but Jewish identity matters to Ben.

    [Video]

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      rather than dating back to the formation of Israel.

      The sly, demented means by which you abandon all logic and invoke Shapiro’s cultural history in order to slander him with it in defense of violence.

      There is no relitigating Balfour more parsimoniously in the modern era. It would be every bit as contentious and bloody. “From the river to the sea.” is the rallying cry.

      Jewish identity matters to Ben.

      I don’t particularly like Ben, but this is flatly incorrect with regard to the issue raised/comments cited/information provided. Ben specifically forsakes his identity and DeScuchin, whoever that is, invokes Ben’s identity specifically in order to attack him.

      Whomever this evil, retard DeScuchin is, he could make the case that Ben isn't setting aside his heritage or is falsely setting aside his heritage, and there's ample evidence that he is, but DeScuchin doesn't make that argument.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

        There is no relitigating Balfour more parsimoniously in the modern era. It would be every bit as contentious and bloody. “From the river to the sea.” is the rallying cry.

        One of the interesting things about that event is that Balfour justified the creation of an explicitly Jewish ethnostate by noting that Europeans saw their Jewish populations as extremely subversive due to massive in-group preference and support of radical left-wing marxist and anarchist causes, which increased the possibilities for internal suppression of Jewish enclaves and general restrictions on Jewish freedoms.

        Creating a new Israel, he thought, would provide European Jews with a kind of honeypot to incentivize them to leave Europe and move to the Levant, thus mitigating those political suppressions and upheavals. He turned out to be spectacularly wrong, but I suspect his mindset at the time was shared by a lot of upper-class European government officials in the wake of the “self-determination” trend in Euro-American diplomacy after the war.

        Like a typical British official, he conveniently ignored that 1) there was already a lot of non-Jewish people living there who wouldn’t appreciate a mass migration of foreigners, assuming they would simply figure a way to work things out peacefully, and 2) there were also Jews already living there who understood the local culture and weren’t all that jazzed about a bunch of atheistic communists upsetting the rather delicate balance that was there between Muslims, Jews, Arabs, and Christians.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

          So when these European Jews started showing up in the Levant, and the British slow-walked the creation of Israel, all of a sudden you get the rise of Jewish guerilla groups like Irgun and the Stern Gang that use violence to try and force the Brits’ hand, leading to a massive spike in anti-Jewish hatred by the Arab population and the eventual partnership between Hitler and Amin al-Husseini during the 1940s.

          1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

            The trouble with that is the radical left-wing marxist jews were not moving to Palestine and continued their subversive activities not only in Europe but the US as well.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              Well, a bunch of them did (you don't get commie-type setups such as kibbutzes otherwise), but obviously not nearly in the mass levels Balfour hoped.

          2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Except there were Jews moving into the area (and getting attacked by Muslims) in the 1880s, well before the Balfour Declaration. And I suspect that a fair chunk of British intent in the area was explicitly to create strife so they'd have an excuse to meddle. Gotta keep fingers in pies for the Empire.

        2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          a lot of non-Jewish people living there who wouldn’t appreciate a mass migration of foreigners, assuming they would simply figure a way to work things out peacefully, and 2) there were also Jews already living there who understood the local culture and weren’t all that jazzed about a bunch of atheistic communists upsetting the rather delicate balance that was there between Muslims, Jews, Arabs, and Christians.

          I'm sorry, but enrichment is enrichment, no matter how it happens.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

          "there were also Jews already living there who understood the local culture and weren’t all that jazzed about a bunch of atheistic communists upsetting the rather delicate balance that was there between Muslims, Jews, Arabs, and Christians."

          Immigration is ALWAYS net positive, right?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            Did they have food trucks?

      2. Nardz   2 years ago

        Ben Shapiro is 100% Israel first.
        But if you want to go to war for Ben, feel free to volunteer individually.
        Sacrificing American blood and treasure for Israel is treasonous.

        1. Dirk Honkler   2 years ago

          This, it's very obvious.

        2. mad.casual   2 years ago

          I said nothing about going to war. But "Beginning with Oct. 7th" is literally not Israel first and "going back to the founding of Israel" is literally putting Israel first.

          Pretty sure we're in similar camps where our boots stay home and, at most, we sell Israel all the weapons they can buy.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Note that of the celebrities expressing sympathy for Palestinians, Ben has the most contempt for Jon Stewart. It’s likely because Stewart is Jewish and Ben views Jon’s position as being a sellout to Jews.

      In fairness to Shapiro, 1) unlike left-wing Jews like Stewart, he at least recognizes that, at least in the past, the majority of the right were far more likely to be supporters of Israel than left ever were, and is trying to tard-wrangle Stewart into recognizing that, and 2) like a lot of left-wing American and European Jews (or Haaretz in Israel), Stewart tries to have it both ways by being a turbolib pinko about the conflict, while having the benefit of having the haven of a specifically Jewish ethnostate anytime he wishes, simply because of his ancestry. Not unlike commies such as Howard Zinn or Herbert Marcuse who railed about the evils of capitalism and white people while benefiting from living in the very society they slagged.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...Ben says moral morons “ignore the beginning of every war”, and then immediately proceeds to pretend the Israel-Palestine war began on October 7th rather than dating back to the formation of Israel..."

      One of these days, maybe you'll get to the 6th grade.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        The creation of Israel literally led to the notion of Palestinian as an ethnic/identity group. But if you'd like to argue the tabula rasa version of history, go for it.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          If you'd like to put the cart before the horse, have at it. You are an ignorant fuck.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Well, the province had specifically been called Palestine ever since the Romans crushed the Jews during the Bar Khokhba revolt, and it retained that moniker through the Crusades, the Mamluks, and the Ottoman Empire. So while those people did not have their own actual nation-state per se, the Arabs and Mediterranean semites who lived there that weren't Jews, would have identified as Palestinians the same way that people in Great Britain identify as Welsh, Scottish, or English.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            As ever, I blame Rome for this situation.

            1. DesigNate   2 years ago

              Seems legit.

  30. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    What is the over/under number for the Georgia defendants by the trial start?

    Why risk your neck when you get no support in return. Trump is a billionaire who will not let go of a dime to help people he made criminally liable. Is this really about overcharging or is this about under supporting your people?

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      Do you think going after Trump's lawyers is right?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Yes. They all support the political attacks.

      2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        If they committed crimes, yes I do. Does being a lawyer make you immune to prosecution?

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          For giving legal advice? Only illegal if conservative apparently.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

            And yet, "giving legal advice" is not one of the charges, is it?

        2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          Fair enough, but they're not being charged with committing crimes, they're charged with being lawyers.

          And I know that you know this, but somehow you think "a little bit of fascism will be okay because somehow it'll only effect Trump and it will only be this one time and fuck him".
          Right?

          1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

            Please show me where they are charged with being a lawyer? Powell is charged with participating in a scheme to breach voting machines. Ellis and Chesebro with recruiting and promoting fake electors. A lawyer cannot say that advise or promote criminal actions. They can help you defend yourself, but they cannot help you plan the crime.

            1. Diarrheality   2 years ago

              Keep feeding that alligator.

            2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

              Every lawyer knows the difference between "giving legal advice" and participating in the crime. They knew what they were doing.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Trump is a billionaire who will not let go of a dime to help people he made criminally liable.

      Donnie won't even fork over any of the campaign donations he is hustling up from his Cult.

      Rudy and the My Pillow idiot are on the verge of bankruptcy. Loyalty to Trump is a one-way street.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a TDS addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        Most people do learn, though: No lawyer will work for Trump now without getting paid up front (with his gormless supporters' hard-earned money).

        Rudy is obviously a special case. Anybody want to buy a lovely New York apartment?

        https://www.serenaboardman.com/nyc/sales/00122610-45-East-66th-Street-10W-New-York-NY-10065

    3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      How would spending money help?

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        Yeah, I’m confused as to how he didn’t just endorse blackmail, extortion, and/or pay-to-play on behalf of The State/Crown.

        1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

          The state is not getting the money, private lawyers are getting paid. You sure you understand how this works?

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            You sure you understand how this works?

            Are you? And I don't mean blackmail/extortion/RICO/pay-to-play, I mean English. When someone says "I'm confused." it means they don't understand.

            What I do know is that if I knew your boss cheated on his taxes and I went to him and said "Fire that retard Moderation4ever or I'll tell the IRS.", I'm engaged in blackmail even if the only people who ever see a dime of profit are private lawyers.

            I also know that most anyone with an above-retard-level IQ could understand that out of hand.

            I also know that even people with sub-retard level IQs wouldn't say "Are you sure you understand?" in reply to someone saying "I don't understand."

            1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

              Could you take a moment to review your analogy and punch it up a little so it makes sense. No one is being blackmailed or extorted. People were asked by Donald Trump to participate in a criminal scheme and when it fell apart, Trump left his people high and dry.

      2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        It would show support for your people. Trump famously told people to beat up a heckler and that he would cover their legal bills. Well that is not really true. Trump lures people in and leaves them high and dry.

        1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          "Trump famously told people to beat up a heckler"

          Whoops. This isn't what you just insinuated.

          JUST IN: Trump tells @MeetThePress' @ChuckTodd he's going to look into paying for legal fees for the man who threw the sucker punch on Sat

          Neither is this:

          "So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of 'em, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. I promise."

          Throwing things at someone is definitely not heckling.

    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

      Oh, we're back to being able to call Trump a billionaire? It's so hard to keep up.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Of course, if Trump supports them, that's "in furtherance of the criminal conspiracy", right?

  31. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Jacob__Siegel/status/1717149281814024271?t=S19Yo53MmqcOVc3iZToj_A&s=19

    The White House is leading ethnically segregated "listening sessions" to make staffers feel better.

    These are the people who Israel is allowing to dictate its war plans. It's Anthony Faucis all the way down in DC and the Netanyahu government has caved to them.

    [Link]

  32. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1717039490949153113?t=sKJ8ID6x3ruP_xR1heImUw&s=19

    They told us Officer Probst was killed by white teens. Do they look white to you?

    [Link]

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      Definitely Kip and Charles from the yacht club.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      BWAAHAHAHAHA!

      Those two are supposed to be white Hispanics (George Zimmerman, please pick up the white courtesy phone)? One of them even has a 'fro and the other (the one with oh so classy facial tattoos) is best described as brown-skinned! This might be the most blatant case of "don't believe your own lying eyes" gaslighting I've seen this week (I'm sure there will be an even more egregious example next week - it's clown universe, after all).

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        The fucktards are not even trying any more.

    3. Minadin   2 years ago

      They also taunted the family of the victim in court. Class acts all the way around.

      https://notthebee.com/article/the-teens-who-livestreamed-themselves-running-down-a-police-chief-smirked-and-laughed-in-court-today

      1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        The only good news: these two will be passed around like a peace pipe in prison.

  33. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

    Latest migrant poll should scare the hell out of Democrats

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      I thought you nutters didn't believe polls.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Polls are historically biased by dems 3-5. When compared to election results. Which makes the current polling even more alarming to dems.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        You're mistaking hatred for Democrats with principles. Polls are bad when they benefit Democrats. But they're good when they benefit Republicans. Just like the hardcore left, only principle is winning.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          How many tugs does it take to get Buttplug off?

          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

            Proportional to the age of the tugger.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Proportional or inversely proportional? I dare say the latter may be more accurate.

          2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

            Sarcasmic's not a tall man but he's still to big for Pluggo's tastes. Poor Sarc, all he want's is a friend.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Please stop using the word principled. You don't have any.

        3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          Good to see sarcasmic still backing up his pal.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      4. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        "I thought you nutters didn’t believe polls."

        You talk like polls are Jesus. Anyway, when it's 84% against it's not merely a polling opinion.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      The remaining 16% are zombied-out addicts living in parks and subway tunnels.

      Ha. Just kidding about the zombie part.

      Did the media's shared AI-story generation software get an added anti-NYC/bipartisan snark feature or was it always there and journos just now figured out and started showing each other how to use it?

  34. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/nathancofnas/status/1716882486435983877?t=GIAxS2920elhO6m8L6PgAQ&s=19

    5:33 PM: Jews now know that DEI means it's okay to kill Jews. This changes everything.

    12:18 AM: I will never stop voting for DEI. Conservatives are racist.

    [Link]

    1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

      Cult gets thrown around a lot, but it's definitely a cult.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        IQ is pseudoscience “

        “Everyone is equally smart” is wishful thinking.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          What about "everyone is equity smart"?

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            *shudder*

        2. mad.casual   2 years ago

          IQ involves all kinds of testing and hypotheses. It's got all kinds of repetition of the tests and hypotheses. It was wrong, but useful, got refined, got less wrong and applied more narrowly to where it is useful... has been subsumed and/or expanded upon...

          Whereas "[noun] is pseudoscience" isn't even pseudoscience and is really closer to "Like, that's just your opinion man!"

  35. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Trump's Stooges Flip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Guilty pleas on late return of a library book and two unpaid parking tickets. The walls are closing in!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    "Mr. Emhoff, the husband of Kamala Harris, is the first Jewish spouse of a president or vice president," reads a New York Times subheading. "He has focused on providing comfort to people in pain after the Hamas attack." Doesn't this read like a press release?

    Making his case to be the first "First Gentleman."

  37. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1717183064466485594?t=JNJ_R-G7L3XyE__9EG2lnQ&s=19

    What the fuck is he doing in China?

    [Video of Gavin meeting with Xi]

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Preparing a run for the Oval office.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        He's done such a wonderful job in CA, right?

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          Biden did a wonderful job as Senator, which got him 700,000,000 votes in 2020. Reach for the stars, anything is possible.

      2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        It would be terrible if someone ensured that he couldn't run by shooting him.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Looking for a summer home?

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Getting tips on putting dissidents in jail.

    4. Dillinger   2 years ago

      makes him feel even taller.

  38. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    "The lawyers flipping "may grant us greater visibility into Trump's state of mind during the effort to overturn the election," adds French."

    No chance that it may be a cynical attempt to coerce Trump's former lawyers to testify in a way that pleases the prosecutors? Its relation to the truth possibly murky?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Can you imagine a libertarian mag arguing what other people think shows proof as to what another individual believed?

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

        Or that overcharging someone in order to get them to espouse the prosecutor’s position is an acceptable tactic by the government’s lawyers.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          'Or that overcharging someone in order to get them to espouse the prosecutor’s position is an acceptable tactic by *TDS-addled DNC* lawyers.'

          Pretty sure this is more accurate.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        That probably depends on what Trump's response was.

  39. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Tom Emmer drops out of race for Speaker of the House"
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67212260

    turd hardest hit:
    Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2
    "Shut up, Sevo. Emmer is now Speaker Elect!
    His only opposition is the MAGA terror cell in the House. The Trump Cultists are threatening mutiny!"

    Get fucked with a running chain saw, you pathetic excuse for a human being.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Donnie made a call to his mafia.

      Emmer dropped out an hour later. Some party you got there.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a TDS addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

        Poor Buttplug, the Media Matter's talking-points email reliably told him Emmer was in.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Damn, you are so full of crap, Pluggo. You boasted about it, and Sevo posted the receipt.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies when he knows that we know he's lying. turd lies; it's what turd does.

  40. Sevo   2 years ago

    Kimmel's Trump 'jokes' don't even get laughs from HIS audience:

    "Jimmy Kimmel Quietly Fired From Job"
    [...]
    "After two years, Jimmy Kimmel has been removed as the host of the L.A. Bowl, a college football bowl game.
    The left-wing comedian will be replaced by former NFL tight end Rob Gronkowski..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jimmy-kimmel-quietly-fired-from-job/ar-AA1iMrrO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e868c375891a4d2082c813b52ee55197&ei=10

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Remember when Jimmy Kimmel was funny? Me eighter Adam carolla did all the work

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        No.

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        >>when Jimmy Kimmel was funny?

        should have quit and gone back to college the day he stopped being Ben Stein's lapdog.

    2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      I've probably asked this one before, but who's more embarrassing: Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Colbert.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Letterman was the king of late-night.

        (post Carson of course)

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          LOL, no he wasn't. Letterman turned into a bog-standard shitlib after he lost out on the Tonight Show to Leno, and the first couple of years of the Late Show aside, Leno beat his ass in the ratings every year they went head-to-head, for two decades.

          The reason these celebrities kiss Letterman's ass is because he became explicitly political for Democrats, while Leno continued to make fun of both sides rather than be a partisan hack.

          Yeah, what Leno did to Conan was shitty, but the reality is that Conan was never going to appeal to the audience that made Leno the late night ratings king, who were mostly Silent and Boomer generation viewers. Conan's smart-ass style of humor was a big hit on the post-Tonight Show slot because that's what appealed to college students pulling all-nighters. It was never going to translate to the Tonight Show audience, and Conan's loyal viewers weren't going to make up for the loss of the older, core audience.

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            I always liked Letterman better. But I didn't watch much past the Clinton years.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              He peaked when dropping watermelons off the roof.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              And the big problem is that neither of them held a candle to Carson. Leno came the closest to capturing the broad appeal, but he wasn't within the same galaxy as Carson as far as being a media icon. Letterman's status was astroturfed to hell, but he came the closest to having Carson's cultural standing.

          2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

            The 3 of them only pull in a little less than 6 million viewers, They never count Gutfeld on Fox who would be in second place ratings wise. The last late night I watched was Craig Ferguson he had a fun show, no politics.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        It's a shame Hitch isn't around to flip off his audience.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          That was a GREAT clip.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          That's still one of the fucking funniest moments on TV in the last generation. Those tards were clearly not prepared to deal with someone who wasn't intimated in any way by their heckler's veto.

  41. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "The House will probably vote on Johnson today; 217 votes must be secured to become speaker."

    So, what if the House spends the entire term playing Who Wants to Be Speaker?

  42. Roberta   2 years ago (edited)

    Thanks for the link re Peronism. After the election, I looked up Peronism in Wikipedia, where it was basically described as a bunch of platitudes. My friend Bob Blumetti then explained Peronism isn’t an ideology, it’s just corruption and, “Who can we buy off this time?” The linked material confirms this.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Your first mistake was wikipedia

      1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago (edited)

        Yup.

        Wikipedia is great for knowing the mating strategies of the South Pacific silver grunting, but touch Western politics and it’s all heavily curated by establishment bot farms.

        1. Mother's Lament - Professional Shrike Sock Spotter   2 years ago

          I thought I made that fish up, but apparently there really is a fish called a silver grunt in the south Pacific.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomadasys_argenteus

    2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      LOL!, even Juan didn't believe his own bullshit. His crazy wife did.
      Peronists had a wide tent party though, the day Peron came back from exile the right wing Peronists massacred 13 left wing Peronists at the airport and the war was on. His stripper wife became the first woman president in the Americas. That probably pissed of Hillary. Bill too, he probably always wanted a stripper wife.

  43. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    "The best part is that this is mentioned immediately after a few paragraphs on how unaffordable the city has become. If only we could grasp the connection between the two!"

    How dare you! "Connections" are white privilege fantasies created to impede progressive progress. If you can't believe in simultaneous neighborhood preservation and massive housing projects then you are a Nazi.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      Pattern recognition is a tool of white supremacy!

  44. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    "Mr. Emhoff, the husband of Kamala Harris, is the first Jewish spouse of a president or vice president," reads a New York Times subheading. "He has focused on providing comfort to people in pain after the Hamas attack." Doesn't this read like a press release?

    Behold how desperate we are for more ethnic and identitarian "firsts".

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      Is he left-handed?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Finally! A Jew in an unelected position living the townhomes across the street from the White House to balance out all the more ideologically insane Mormons already inside the White House.

      And I'm pretty sure it's not "we" who are desperate here.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        readers added context... lol not even pope_head's followers understand humor

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        The irony is that there actually are a shit-ton of Mormons in the surveillance state programs. It's not an accident that the NSA's data center is located at Camp Williams.

    3. Zeb   2 years ago

      Stuff like that always reminds me of baseball commentators who can always come up with some "first" for pretty much any game.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        last nite two Diamondback pitchers had double-A in their last names and I wondered out loud whether it had ever been in an LCS Game 7

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Well, it will be the first World Series where both teams play in domes.

    4. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      And his daughter is a "supermodel"
      https://people.com/style/ella-emhoff-facts/

      She revived the Olive Oyl look.

  45. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Color me skeptical that Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, misheard that recent question on antisemitism.

    She did mishear it... in a way...

  46. AT   2 years ago

    Bad move by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis

    Why is it a bad move to deactivate what is almost certainly a groomer/radicalization group linked to known terrorists?

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      Because DeSantis! Almost badorangeman!
      Do I have to connect the dots for you?

  47. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Mike Johnson is the latest GOP nominee for House speaker

    WHO?!!

  48. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    Trust but verify your signatories:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/1700-sociologists-and-dr-hamas-mchamasface/

    "Over 1,700 sociologists signed an open letter condemning the “internationally supported genocide” committed by the “Israeli regime.” The academics — both students and professors — call upon their “colleagues to stand in solidarity with Palestinians and against settler colonialism, imperialism, and genocide.” In support of their position, the sociologists write that Israel “targeted hospitals,” and link to an article alleging that an “Israeli bombardment has struck a packed hospital compound in central Gaza, killing an estimated 500 people,” a claim that has been thoroughly debunked."

    "The long list “included” the following: 1) Adolf Hitler, Professor Emeritus, Sociology, University of Vienna; 2) Adolf Eichmann, Wannsee Conference Participant and Head of Logistics; 3) Joseph Goebbels, Director of Propaganda for The Third Reich;..."

    "There were entertaining juvenile contributions, proving that we never outgrow Bart Simpson’s sense of humor: 1) Phillip McCrack, Social Proctologist in Anus, France; 2) Shitana Pagoda, Huflung Pu University, Beijing; 3) Imre Tardedi, LMU Munic; 4) Sagon Deez, Student at WU Vienna; and 5) Dr. Hamas McHamasFace, University of Austin. I’m certain this can all be blamed on Hugh Jass."

    "Eventually, the user “Michael Rodriguez” revised the document. Yet the editorial intervention was not comprehensive — which perhaps reflects the quality of work generally performed by sociologists. The individual “A Johnson” without any university credential is still the 40th signature, and Nazi Oscar Dirlewagner remains on the long list.

    I have never taken a sociology course, but those professors did just teach me some valuable lessons: Implement a verification process to collect signatures, and be more mindful of internet trolls."

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      “There were entertaining juvenile contributions, proving that we never outgrow Bart Simpson’s sense of humor: 1) Phillip McCrack, Social Proctologist in Anus, France; 2) Shitana Pagoda, Huflung Pu University, Beijing; 3) Imre Tardedi, LMU Munic; 4) Sagon Deez, Student at WU Vienna; and 5) Dr. Hamas McHamasFace, University of Austin. I’m certain this can all be blamed on Hugh Jass.”

      What about Amanda Huginkiss? I need Amanda Huginkiss! Why can't I find Amanda Huginkiss?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        And where's Mike Hunt?

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          Porky's one of the more underrated hilarities ever put to film.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Just the first one. The second one wasn't great, and the redeemable feature of the third one was Kimberly Evenson.

            1. Dillinger   2 years ago

              ^^

        2. Zeb   2 years ago

          The great thing about "Mike Hunt" is that there are probably lost of people actually named Michael Hunt out there.

          1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

            If that's a great thing, what's a bad one?

            1. Zeb   2 years ago

              Your sense of humor?

          2. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

            One of my favorite little silver linings is that/when they circulate these global petitions in a diverse population, get thousands of signatures, and all fake signatures/pseudonyms are 100% Western/American idioms.

            No “Elver Galarga”s, “Головач Лена”s, “Hank Huley”s, or “Shia Labeouf”s, all pulled straight from Bart Simpson.

            1. Dillinger   2 years ago

              I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and I like to kiss my own butt.

        3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          "I'm looking for Mike Hawk! Has anyone seen Mike Hawk around here?"

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      5) Dr. Hamas McHamasFace, University of Austin.

      My favorite by far.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Should have claimed "Harvard University"...

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

          Xe Hamas McHamasFace?

  49. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    "The crime-fraud exception to attorney-client privilege prevents a criminal defendant from shielding his communications with his lawyers when those communications were in furtherance of a criminal scheme."

    And what, other than orders to commit crimes (e.g., perjury, forging evidence, solicitation of murder), would qualify as furthering a criminal scheme.

    Johnson, who is serving his fourth term in the House, was named to Donald Trump's impeachment defense team and "played a leading role in recruiting House Republicans to sign a legal brief supporting a lawsuit seeking to overturn the 2020 election results,"

    Good.

    That is a plus in my book.

  50. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Huh, John Stewart's Apple+ TV show got canceled.

    The shocking part of the news: John Stewart had an Apple+ TV show.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      his claims of hard-hitting jornolism being struck down by China-Apple is almost cute

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Too many of Stewart's viewers are locked in to John Oliver now, or just outgrew prime time cable news comedy shows and don't watch that stuff anymore.

        From a media influencer standpoint, the man's a spent force who can't move the needle anymore with his faux-"boaf sydez" unity-criticism-unity nightly dialectic. The political polarization that he enabled and bourgeios leftism that he made fashionable rendered him irrelevant, forcing him to simply parrot on the podcast whatever left-wing talking points were being promoted at the time. There's already plenty of outlets that his fans can get that stuff, they certainly aren't going to waste their time listening to Stewart repeat all of it.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          >>outgrew prime time cable news comedy shows

          I assume most took a hit because making fun of B summons Flowers By Irene ... and what else are those shows for?

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            I don't know if it broke because of 911 and Bush, or because of Obama, or what. But it seems like the late night guys used to be a lot better at just making fun of whatever politicians were prominent at the time.

            1. Dillinger   2 years ago

              Carson punched up at everybody. Pre-911 was a less cynical time.

            2. DesigNate   2 years ago

              Obama cracked them because they didn’t want to get called racist by their leftist fan base.

              Trump completely broke their brains by winning and none of them have been the same since.

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          John Oliver has an incredibly punchable face.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      I had no idea. If I had known I could have made a point of avoiding it. Now I don't even have that luxury.

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      I dunno, I was pretty shocked to learn that Apple is still in the business of (not) making TV shows.

      If I rack my brain for another Apple+ show, Ted Lasso (I think) is the only one that comes to mind, and I've never seen a single episode beginning to end.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Severance seemed pretty cool from the first few episodes I watched.

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        had like 30-day free gig & tried Slow Horses ... was relatively excellent

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          had like 30-day free gig & tried Slow Horses … was relatively excellent

          Kinda exactly what I meant. Seems like I'm missing something not having seen The Boys. I missed The Man In The High Tower. Missed GOT and Ice and Fire. Saw, and personally regretted, Arcane. Rings Of Power was a spectacle I missed. Lots of people I know seemed to have watched A Handmaid's Tale, Black Mirror, Vikings, Reacher, The Terminal List, Witcher, Cobra Kai, Squid Game, Better Call Saul, Stranger Things...

          Everything I hear from Apple+ is "Good enough to watch on a free trial but not re-up."

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            you. are. missing. something. not. having. seen. The Boys.

            but my prime membership stems from mme. dillinger I don't deal with subscriptions ... or bills in any way so I probably would also have missed The Boys

  51. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

    American Hostages Day 18 is not a headline or concern anywhere at this site what the ever loving fuck do you people do all day other than boaf sidez!! and T hatery?

    1. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      Come on, now. The escape from Afghanistan set the precedent that we don't talk about hostages.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        lol. if a Koch was in the tunnels the IDF would be finished already.

  52. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

    MAGA cult attacks Chicago Alderwoman.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      (sorry) where's my burrito?!?!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnYHaEX4QoA

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Looks like we finally found famous black, gay, and French actor "Juicy Smolliay's" real assailants.

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      If it weren't so utterly depressing, Julie Contreras' LARPing as a white person and Godwinning the argument would be hilarious.

    4. DesigNate   2 years ago

      Already says “This content isn’t available”.

  53. Dillinger   2 years ago

    and you're quoting David French my hopes for the awesome new roundup are fading.

  54. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"Who is the Greatest Economist of all Time and Why Does it Matter?"

    no subject has bored more people to death than economics. fact.

  55. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    So Liz went ENB already?
    No, it is not a law against antisemitism; it is a law against terrorism, and supporting terrorism.

    (philosophical question. Does taking over the roundup make you crazy, are do only crazy people get assigned to the roundup?)

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Operators of the roundup select writers prone to manipulation and gradually induce hysteria. It's systemic.

  56. Jerryskids   2 years ago

    "The United States does not seek conflict with Iran," U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told the United Nations Security Council yesterday. "But if Iran or its proxies attack US personnel anywhere, make no mistake: We will defend our people, we will defend our security, swiftly and decisively."

    The wimp has drawn a red line in the sand. I trust Iran is suitably shaking in its sandals. Unfortunately, probably shaking with laughter. They've seen Biden's pack of transgenders and diversity hires.

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      They’ve seen Biden’s pack of transgenders and diversity hires.

      Unleashing a pack of trannies and diversity hires might actually work (or keep them so busy tossing them off roofs that they're not able to carry out terrorist attacks).

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Iran actually has a shit-ton of trannies because of the homosexuality laws; it's a closet (heh) medical industry there. They get their dicks chopped and live as women specifically to avoid getting defenstrated. That's why Ahmadinejad could claim with a straight face that "there aren't any gay people in Iran."

  57. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Sex work is work.

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      Seems kind of backwards. Should be easier to get the streetwalkers off the streets if you change the prostitution laws, not the loitering laws.

  58. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>The lawyers flipping "may grant us greater visibility into Trump's state of mind during the effort to overturn the election," adds French.

    Sullum's hope chest unbelievably fits inside French's ... parabox

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      threadwinner.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago (edited)

      The lawyers flipping “may grant us greater visibility into Trump’s state of mind during the effort to overturn the election,” adds French.

      I thought testifying to someone else’s state of mind was pretty much the textbook definition of speculation?

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Well, this is Orangemanbad.

      2. Zeb   2 years ago

        I don't see how there can fail to be reasonable doubt about any case where the defendant's beliefs about matters of fact at a particular time are essential bits of evidence.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          What exactly is the crime being alleged?

          1. Zeb   2 years ago

            That's a valid question too. I've read some of the indictment from GA and for the most part I was just wondering "how is that in any way a criminal act?"

          2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Being Donald Trump in the First Degree.

      3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Funny how sarc isn’t speaking against it.

      4. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        They wouldn't be testifying about Trump's "state of mind", but about what Trump said or did in response to what he was told.

  59. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"Mr. Emhoff ... has focused on providing comfort to people in pain after the Hamas attack."

    so that was him in the video giving the two old lady hostages water?

    1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      No, that would have required him to do something other than offer generic platitudes on social media.

  60. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Governor DeSantis just ordered the University of Florida and the University of South Florida to deactivate their "Students for Justice in Palestine" groups for violating Florida's laws against antisemitism.

    those stupid kids should have been privileged enough to attend The U

  61. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Trump's Stooges Flip

    Jenna Ellis, I wanna be your dog.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Yeah, woof! Woof!

  62. JFree   2 years ago

    "This book is not just the text, it's the text plus what you use AI to do with it," writes Cowen

    I was dreading to see a copyright stamp on this page. That is where big tech (and VC's) is going with AI - looking to claim as property something that they were able to steal in order to screw others out of keeping value in what they do have.

    But this does appear to be a creative and useful way to use AI.

  63. Truthteller1   2 years ago

    The walls are closing in. They plead guilty to some insignificant misdemeanors that were not initially charged. It's a farce.

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      And it's not even exactly a guilty plea-if they avoid breaking any other Georgia laws for the next couple years, all the convictions will be wiped clean. They will face no punishment and have no criminal records.

      Not exactly the most stunning gotcha.

    2. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago (edited)

      See below. The prosecution overreached, and got caught.

  64. Dillinger   2 years ago

    two things occurred to me at lunch:

    1. these T trials are just like the Seinfeld trial.

    2. had to kill a mosquito. I hate killing anything, but mme. dillinger (who is m.o.t.) says "thank you, I know you hate to kill things but they come here to kill me so you must kill them first"

  65. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago

    What’s funny is that these guilty pleas are being sold as wins for the prosecution. They aren’t. They are losses. Sydney Powell, et Al, demanded their Speedy Trial rights, as well as their Brady discovery, on a timely basis, and the prosecution realized they didn’t have any chance of getting ready for trial in the required 90 days. So, they offered her a plea deal of several misdemeanors, no felonies, no jail time, and delayed sentencing, where the charges disappear if she doesn’t violate the terms of the deal, which were that she testify truthfully in the other trials - which she has to do anyway, or face perjury charges. Essentially not even a slap on her wrist. She is a highly experienced criminal defense attorney, and showed that she was far better at the job than the prosecuting attorneys.

    1. DesigNate   2 years ago

      I have it on good authority that accepting the plea dead means they were double plus criminals.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

        And that their associates are guilty as well.

  66. LIBertrans   2 years ago

    I'm willing to bet Israeli schoolkids learn about Gudrun Himmler, the blond kiddie who parroted Christian National Socialist cant and denied Daddy did anything wrong till she dropped of old age. Antinuclear liars, ancient astronaut hustlers, looter ideologues, Sharknado Cassandras and religious quacks too numerous to list never do learn. That is the most important lesson about them.

  67. NOYB2   2 years ago

    The establishment stooges at Reason, however, stand firm. After all, their livelihood and liberties haven't be threatened by the state... yet.

  68. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    I expect that Trump's "stooges" are bailing because they know that the Fulton County D.A. will keep after them until they are bankrupted by attorney's fees, and that the penalties they will get will cost a lot less.

  69. Muzamal   2 years ago

    kitho

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