Brickbat: On Record

When U.S. Army Sgt. 1st Class Jamie Morris, a Special Forces soldier, applied for a concealed carry permit, his local sheriff's office contacted him about several arrests on his record. Morris was confused: He's never been arrested. But his record showed he'd been arrested on several charges, most seriously aggravated sexual contact and negligent homicide and murder. His issues began in 2017, when he was stationed in Mali with several other members of various U.S. special operations forces. Four special operations forces members killed a fifth during that deployment. They were all convicted or pleaded guilty. Two of them claimed Morris authorized the hazing of the man who was killed. But their stories contradicted each other, and the others denied Morris had any involvement. That didn't stop the Army Criminal Investigation Division from "titling" Morris. That's a process where a soldier's record is flagged even if he is never charged. It shows up on criminal background checks as an arrest and usually ends a soldier's chances for promotion. A soldier is never even aware of it unless he applies for a concealed carry permit or job that requires a background check.

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[Michael Ejercito]

Does anyone in Congress no about this?

[Adans smith]

So a secret FYTW?

[Fist of Etiquette]

That didn't stop the Army Criminal Investigation Division from "titling" Morris.

Fixing military bureaucratic mistakes would be like titling at windmills.

[Longtobefree]

Well, damn!
Quick, we need a constitutional amendment guaranteeing due process!

[SMP0328]

Better yet, make it two.

[mad.casual]

The law prevents a special forces soldier from reintegrating into society effectively? I feel like I’ve already seen this movie before.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

His problems all started with a local sheriff, too.

[Cyto]

Why does it seem like this is what they are attempting to expand to all areas of life? Step out of line and we delete your ability to do anything - get a job, cash a check, have a bank account.... or even post your thoughts online.

[Idaho Bob]

Criminality becomes the only option.

Embrace it.

[Longtobefree]

Perhaps Ned Ludd was right?

[Michael Ejercito]

I looked into this, and I did recall on a TV show about being flagged by PERS-8./ to show this was not fiction.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2014/08/16/post-board-scrubs-ensure-eligibility-for-advancement/

The Navy, at least, flags people for conduct or inaction while, not arising to the level of a UCMJ violation or a state penal code violation, shows a strong likelihood that the people in question are not fit for a position of responsibility. Perhaps the Army came to a similar conclusion regarding SFC Morris.

But what I do feel is that this should stay between SFC Morris and the Army. This sort of information should not show up on background checks for a concealed carry permit.

[docduracoat]

You could’ve done slightly more research and told us if there is a mechanism to appeal or remove this “titling”

Does anyone know if it is possible to remove this so the person can get a concealed carry permit?

[Michael Ejercito]

Titling should not be a basis for denying a concealed carry permit.

[Davedave]

If being arrested on such charges is enough to stop someone getting a concealed carry permit, what difference does it make whether he was in the military or not? If it isn't enough, then obviously the rules should be changed so it is enough. It's a privilege, not a right.

[Davedave]

So, he’s a complete psycho, who wanted to do psycho things, and is prevented from doing them because he has the military equivalent of a record of being arrested just as he would be if the police were investigating a similar murder in civilian life? Only Fox could turn that into some kind of story.

The only things he’s complaining about not being allowed to do as a result of his allegedly-unfortunate proximity to a murder are things he shouldn’t be allowed to do anyway given his history and track record. Does he seriously think that as a trained killer – by choice, rather obsessive choice, no less – he is not obviously ineligible to take children on field trips? I wouldn’t let a nutjob like him anywhere near children I have a duty of care towards. His approach to life is basically a non-ironic version of the bit from Alice’s Restaurant: “I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and Guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill, KILL, KILL.”

Like, I get it, special forces are useful, we’re grateful, in a way, to the people who serve in them. We don’t let them look after kids or carry concealed weapons after they retire, though, FFS!

[Agammamon]

Being arrested is not a conviction.

https://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2023/08/dont-mugshots-of-mlk-vaclav-havel-and.html

Does he seriously think that as a trained killer – by choice, rather obsessive choice, no less – he is not obviously ineligible to take children on field trips?

So . . . people in the military shouldn't be allowed around children? What about cops? They're trained to kill too. Or senior federal politicians and bureacrats - I bet Biden has ordered more people killed than I have - and with less thought given to the order.

[Davedave]

If one thing is not like another thing, it is called 'different'. When you grow up, you might learn about how two things that are 'different' are not equivalent.

We are talking about a man who obsessively pursued a career as a killer, not just someone who joined the military, and about rather more than just 'being around' children. This psycho thinks he needs a concealed weapon to accompany school trips. He's batshit insane. He doesn't need a CCP, he needs counselling.