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Pandemic

Study: Sweden's 'Laissez Faire' Pandemic Policies Paid Off

The Scandinavian country suffered fewer excess deaths and far less economic and social damage than other rich countries that had more restrictive pandemic policies.

Christian Britschgi | 8.29.2023 5:35 PM

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The reigning narrative of Sweden during the pandemic is that the Swedish government took a brazenly hands-off approach to COVID-19—and suffered mass, avoidable deaths as a result.

During the spring and summer of 2020, Sweden bucked the international trend by not issuing emergency stay-at-home orders, mask mandates, or school closures. With the exception of restrictions on nursing home visits and large gatherings, the country stayed open during that time.

The concurrent spike in COVID deaths it experienced, particularly in comparison to its Scandinavian peers, was all the proof politicians and much of the press needed to dismiss its liberal approach as inferior to Chinese-inspired lockdowns that swept the rest of the globe.

The New York Times called the country a "cautionary tale." Then-President Donald Trump denounced the country's approach on Twitter.

Yet, this interpretation of Sweden's COVID-19 performance as disastrous and deadly is largely wrong, argues Johan Norberg in a new paper for the Cato Institute.

The data that's accumulated over the past three years suggests that Sweden's "laissez faire approach seems to have paid off," writes Norberg.

"It seems likely that Sweden did much better than other countries in terms of the economy, education, mental health, and domestic abuse, and still came away from the pandemic with fewer excess deaths than in almost any other European country, and less than half that of the United States."

Sweden has largely been dismissed as a failure on COVID-19 because its COVID death rate was middle-of-the-back of the list when compared to other European countries and much higher than other Scandinavian countries that had harsher restrictions.

Neighboring Norway had about half the COVID death rate of Sweden when looking at the period of January 2020 to June 2023, for instance.

Yet Norberg argues just looking at COVID deaths overstates the deadliness of the pandemic in Sweden, given the country's greater surveillance of COVID cases and broader definition of a "COVID-19 death."

Swedish "authorities automatically checked the lists of people who were infected against the population register, so everyone who died and had tested positive for the virus was counted as a COVID-19 death, even if they died from a heart attack or a fall," writes Norberg.

That contrasts with Norway, which depended on individual doctors to proactively report COVID-19 deaths to public health authorities. As a result, the Norwegians probably undercounted their COVID deaths, while Sweden overcounted.

Instead, Norberg focuses on excess deaths—the difference between the number of overall deaths in the country and the expected number of deaths based on past mortality rates. Here, Sweden ended up having the fewest excess deaths of any European country, seeing only a 4.4 percent excess death rate.

That's slightly better than Norway's 5 percent and less than half of Europe's average excess death rate of 11 percent.

Sweden did get hit harder earlier in the pandemic, and it's on this earlier performance that much of the commentary about the country's pandemic failures came from. That snapshot is misleading.

"Sweden's comparatively dismal performance at the start of the pandemic was mostly a result of other countries having managed to delay cases and deaths, rather than having prevented them," writes Norberg. "Sweden suffered most of its deaths in 2020, while the Nordic neighbors and many other countries got them in 2022."

The Cato paper cites one Norwegian public health official as saying, "Other countries managed to delay some deaths, but now, three years after, we end up at around the same place."

Norberg's paper repeats a common practical argument against lockdowns: that they're unnecessary because people will voluntarily restrict their interactions with others in response to rising risk of the virus.

"That people adapt voluntarily when they realize that lives are at stake. Swedes quickly changed their behavior and mostly followed the recommendations," writes Norberg, citing data showing a rise in remote work arrangements and a collapse in public transit ridership early in the pandemic.

He suggests that the reliance on voluntary compliance meant Swedes were more willing to comply with pandemic precautions for longer. Mandatory COVID restrictions in other countries bred backlash to any countermeasures, leading to a greater number of deaths later on.

Perhaps that's true. But if it is, it doesn't seem any of it made much of a difference in the deadliness of the pandemic. Again, Sweden ended up in basically the same place in terms of overall mortality as its Nordic peers (and in a much better place than many other rich countries.) To the degree voluntary pandemic precautions worked, they likely had only the same delaying effect as its neighbors' mandatory lockdowns.

The real benefit of Sweden's more liberal pandemic policies then appears to be that it had far better social and economic outcomes than its neighbors, despite experiencing roughly the same number of excess COVID deaths.

Swedish students suffered no learning loss during the pandemic, whereas half of U.S. students did. The country's economic growth outperformed the eurozone and the United States. It avoided other countries' increased suicide rates and deteriorated mental health.

To be sure, Sweden's COVID-19 policies weren't completely anarchic. Some of the restrictions the country adopted during the winter of 2020 and spring and summer of 2021 were comparable, or even stricter than what many U.S. states had in place.

That includes bans on public gatherings of more than eight people from November 2020 through May 2021. By comparison, many U.S. states had ended capacity restrictions and mass gathering limits well before then.

The country was nevertheless much more respectful of people's individual choices during the pandemic than other European countries and most U.S. states. That additional freedom doesn't appear to have proven more deadly in the aggregate. Instead, it seems to have helped Sweden avoid many of the asocial knock-on effects of banning or restricting public life for months or years at a time.

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  1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    And Sweden blows away the USA on "land of the free"...
    I don't think US citizens realize how far they have fallen.

    1. Nagar with attitude   2 years ago

      Yes, but funny how our democratic socialist overlords still point to the scandanavian countries as examples of the socialist utopia we would have if we just let them have their way. I used to love when reason would have johan norberg contribute abourt sweden but i suspect that he is now a persona non grata with teen reason along with glenn greenwald, matt tiabi, brendan o'neill and the other heretics that still hold classical liberal thoughts.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Maybe they finally figured out that Sweden isn’t socialist, but a capitalist economy with a generous welfare state.

        1. Jefferson's Ghost   2 years ago

          "Maybe they finally figured out that Sweden isn’t socialist, but a capitalist economy with a generous welfare state."

          Exactly.

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          2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

            Some haven't. The Liberal commentariat at the Washington Post is always bragging about the "socialist" Nordic countries.

        2. freedomwriter   2 years ago

          Yes. A general welfare state is much different than socialism.

      2. Senater Tim Scott   2 years ago

        Now that all the Leftists you mentioned have stated they’re going to support Dear Leader because old Twitter banned them and took away their 1st amendment rights, I find them to be much more enjoyable. That’s the thing about today’s transgressive (pardon the expression) Republican Party. They’re big tent. You can literally believe pretty much whatever you want. You won’t find people snickering about Flat Earthers, alien probes, Black White supremacists at the local GOP meeting. People who laugh at people who think Big Pharma is injecting you with nano probes all belong in the Democrat Party. Which is why my Black ass is GOP Proud. They’ll take anyone!

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

          And if you’re a democrat, you can believe a man is woman or a woman is a man.

          You can also believe that 2+2=5

          Get bent.

        2. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          Correct. The Republican party isn't about government indoctrination. It's about Individual Liberty and Justice for all.

        3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Pluggo, is that you?

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            It is. Nothing Plugstick hates more than a Black Republican.

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        “our democratic socialist overlords still point to the scandanavian countries as examples of the socialist utopia we would have”

        Do they, though? Yes, they do paint pictures of social utopia, but has anyone pointed to Scandinavia, lately?

        Can you provide a cite?

        [Disclaimer: Not a defense of Democrats or Progressives or Socialists. Just question the narrative you are putting forth.]

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          news.yahoo.com /democrats-praise-socialism-amid-crisis-154524660.html

          latimes.com /opinion/op-ed/la-oe-kirchick-venezuela-pundits-20170802-story.html

          breitbart.com /national-security/2017/05/04/ten-influential-public-figures-praised-venezuelas-descent-socialist-hell/

          americanthinker.com /blog/2019/09/so_back_when_bernie_sanders_was_praising_hugo_chavez_chavez_was_plotting_to_flood_the_us_with_drugs.html

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Why should anyone give you a cite, muting sealion?

        3. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Every time Mike feels he has to add a disclaimer he is simply admitting to whatever the disclaimer attempts to dissuade. Wonder if he is smart enough to notice.

          1. DesigNate   2 years ago

            Every time he asks for a cite it’s because he’s got no argument and is hoping to derail the thread.

        4. Ersatz   2 years ago

          its interesting the narratives you choose to question and those you tend to ignore

          [disclaimer - just find it interesting that your disclaimer appears to be meant to immunize you against accusations of tribalism and yet it really doesn't.... it is neither necessary nor sufficient for that purpose]

    2. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago

      Some of us certainly do. "Land of the Fee, Home of the Slave."

    3. sCuLLeRcRUsHEr   2 years ago

      And no one in the mainstream media will even care. The media likes to scare people, it makes money.

  2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

    Expecting and allowing people to take care of themselves has good outcomes. Many of us accurately predicted this result and are not at all surprised.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Check out the MAGA cultists here.

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      2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Remember how leftists were complaining the cultists weren’t obeying their cult leader?

      3. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago (edited)

        We can’t see inside your hallucinations, Sweetie.

      4. Sevo   2 years ago

        "Check out the MAGA cultists here."

        What was your handle before socking, TDS-addled shitpile?

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      The article says that they all social distanced and wore masks. In what way is that better or worse than what happened in the USA or Canada?

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        Oh, I dunno Jeff, maybe it’s more about lockdowns, shutting down businesses and keeping kids in school than masks and distancing.

        What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, ask yourself why you thought that post was even relevant.

        Damn.

      2. PeteRR   2 years ago

        They didn't wear masks during the pandemic. I have a cousin living in Sweden. The only restrictions obeyed were to keep your distance (1.5 meters) and to avoid large gatherings. Otherwise things went on as before, including schools never closing.

      3. JFree   2 years ago

        They did what they did voluntarily and more than that they had social cohesion and civility and weren't just looking for a tit to suck on. From Norberg's article:

        The government that handled it in Sweden was a coalition of Greens and Social Dems. If such a govt had even EXISTED here then nothing even voluntary would have been deemed acceptable. Most commenters here are total denialists. Meaning that nothing can even be discussed publicly if it differs from 'covid is just the flu'.

        Sweden stuck to the 'plan for pandemics' that every country incl the WHO had previously had. Lockdowns were never part of that discussion anyway. But while that is a smart move and one wonders why more countries didn't do that - it didn't matter one whit here. The CDC had no contingency plan whatsoever for a pandemic (and of course we aren't going to hold them accountable) and no plan for a pandemic can work when half the population denies that there is a pandemic.

        Sweden has a practice called ministerstyre which is a combination of bureaucratic autonomy and legislative/political restraint of them and constitutional restraint on all. Almost as if bureaucracy is a fourth branch of govt with its own separation of powers and checks/balances. We have none of that and never will and aren't competent to handle it either. But that autonomy is why their public health people implemented what they did. Even when the RIGHT-WING party in Sweden advocated for schools to be shut down.

        Unmentioned in Norberg's article is the Swedish context which made it possible for Sweden to do what it did. It has paid sick leave and that was made more generous (first day coverage) so people who were sick could isolate themselves without losing their job and could see a doctor. Elementary schools in Sweden move a lot of activities outside regardless of weather. We can't move our fat asses off a chair.

        Worst of all, whatever people here may say about lockdowns; they were mostly completely silent when it came to each one of the trillion dollar bribes that made it all possible. As Churchill may have said - we know we're all whorish pigs, we just dicker about the price.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Poor, poor, chicken little.

  3. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

    “The real benefit of Sweden’s more liberal pandemic policies then appears to be that it had far better social and economic outcomes than its neighbors”

    JFC, how does this nonsense get past the Editors?

    No, Mr Britschgi, the real benefit of Sweden’s more liberal pandemic policies is that they weren’t massive violations of citizens' civil liberties.

    It is great that Sweden is finally getting the recognition it deserves, but missing from this article is the same full-throated defense of freedom that was missing through much of the Pandemic.

    To be sure, Sullum was always there clearing his throat, and mumbling that maybe the data doesn’t necessarily warrant freaking out.

    But even Sullum found himself lecturing Rand Paul for his criticism of masking being “stronger than the evidence justified” (Paul ended up being more right than Sullum here). We had Soave insisting that DeSantis should be condemned for banning mask mandates IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. And we had ENB telling us we simply MUST voluntarily mask if we want the government to leave us alone.

    All of these examples were of ostensible libertarians telling us that they let The Science(tm)! outweigh the moral imperative of freedom. Sure, sure, we should probably be free, but muzzle up or you are a denier to be condemned!

    They were wrong, and they look foolish. And that makes Britschgi’s attempt to flog the science for his benefit now look all that much more craven.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Crazypants Trumpy McTrumpist Rand Paul with his assertions that the mask talismans were mere talismans!

      That one made me almost as mad as Nick Gillespie's "promethean transformation".

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        What is Nick Gillespie’s “promethian transformation”? A Google search brought up nothing.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Maybe if you searched Reason instead, sealion?

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          First. Do you know what a promethean transformation is? Asking because you just claimed ignorance to what the Steele dossier was and admitted you only learned what a non sequitur is a few weeks ago after misusing ad hominem.

        3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          *sigh*

          So you don't listen to the Reason podcasts either. I'm sure there's a transcript somewhere...

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

            The Queen/King of Condescension alludes to some topic she/he doesn’t really want to discuss. Feel special, little one.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        "Crazypants Trumpy McTrumpist Rand Paul with his assertions that the mask talismans were mere talismans!"

        What was your handle before socking, TDS-addled pile of shit?

    2. DesigNate   2 years ago

      You hit the nail on the head of why I say they don’t hew to any kind of libertarianism. Take note Mike and sarc: A libertarian magazine that doesn’t frame the conversation about these kinds of things in the light of rights violations, has given up the pretense of standing for liberty first.

      THIS is what we’re actually upset about.

  4. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Let's see what Bailey thinks.

    https://reason.com/2020/08/14/did-sweden-accidentally-blunder-into-covid-19-herd-immunity/

    Oh. An accident.

    Then poor little Emma believing the numbers from China to go after Sweden.

    https://reason.com/2022/12/08/china-eases-zero-covid-policies-after-nearly-3-years-of-harsh-lockdowns/

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Fuck Reason.

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Oh. An accident.

      Of course Ron was on board for mandatory vaccinations back when he had his zika panic even though it was, again at first blush, even more controlled/controllable than COVID.

  5. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    After suffering through Greta Thunberg, covid was probably a nice respite.

    1. MatthewSlyfield   2 years ago

      Sweden ought to owe the rest of the world reparations for Greta Thunberg.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Blame fetal alcohol syndrome for her.

        1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

          I blame her parents. And not just for drinking through her third trimester.

          She's just a mouthpiece. She was put forth entirely for propaganda purposes, and there's no young teenager who does that on her own.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Sure. Let's all pretend that teenagers can't make decisions for themselves!

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Not legally.
              Which is a shame because calm, reasoned thinking, wisdom and good judgment are the hallmarks of being a teen.

          2. PeteRR   2 years ago

            When she turned 18 her father opined that thankfully she was no longer his responsibility, implying it was the mother pushing her daughter.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Now, now, Canada Sweden has apologized for Bryan Adams Greta Thunberg many times!

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

        I'd be ok having a "One Night Love Affair" with Greta.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

          Is that you buttplug?

        2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

          I suppose she might “run to you” if the planet wasn’t burning.

        3. Miss Ann Thrope   2 years ago

          Maybe a one night love affair, but not a summer of sixty nine.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        Ooo, that cuts like a knife.

  6. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    I like how some people need a "study" to consider that maybe the lockdowns and psychological abuse of children didnt accomplish much.

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Well, in the end, it accomplished a democrat party takeover of the USA.

  7. Idaho Bob   2 years ago (edited)

    Some of the states were pretty lax on the Covid bullshit policies. Idaho was one example.

    I had more family and friends visit me in the summer of 2020 than previous years. My sister, who lives in California, flew up here to sit and eat in a restaurant for her birthday.

    1. Overt   2 years ago

      All they had to do was come down to Orange County. Our restaurants were open after July.

      But yes, we went to a family reunion in Idaho circa 2021, and it was really nice hanging out with the inlaws who were not crazy. The crazy ones never came, and remained huddled in their houses back in Spokane.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Covid drove most of my family crazy.

        1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

          A friend's sister is still mask-insane. Won't go anywhere without one and demands everyone wear one around her. Nobody does, but she still demands.

          Of course, she's involved with the Teacher's union, so you can understand where she's coming from. But she honestly never recovered from the 'Rona years.

          1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 years ago

            And, given your description, probably never will.

            Notice how those who are innately miserable glom onto a crisis. I believe it is a form of social parasitism. Misery does in fact love company, and will seek to create it as necessary.

            1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

              You aren't kidding.

              Of course, limousine liberal. Very rich, husband was successful and left her with a gazillion dollar house with low, Prop13 taxes. Somehow went from liberal to progressive, right along with the Unions and other public school teachers.

              I think she really liked the feeling of righteous indignation that came after the fear wore off. People love to lord how "right" they are over others.

              Hell, I do that, too. In fact, when I see someone with a cloth mask, or a surgical mask and their nose hanging out, I know they're stupid. I don't say anything, they can do whatever they want, but I think that's worthy of a Jeff Foxworthy skit. Here's your sign. Well, that mask is your sign.

      2. KerryB   2 years ago

        Christmas 2020 was awesome. My family cancelled so I got to hang out with Santa in Jamaica. Jamaican Santa brings WAY cooler stuff than stodgy US Santa. Sandal's Montego Bay as soon as you stepped on resort you took your mask off and it was like 2020 never happened, at least for a week anyway. It was like a Galt's Gulch in the middle of all the insanity. March 2021 Sandal's Whitehouse was even more incredible with only 20% of the resort booked.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      In some states, we just ignored our asshole governor and did what we wanted anyway. If you were in Cook County, especially, Chicago, Park Ridge, Oak park, and Evanston, you were pretty much shut down and following the fat fuck's orders. Outside of there, we mostly ignored him.

    3. Rufus The Monocled   2 years ago (edited)

      America was lucky. Canadians had no such place to run to. Each province was trying to show who was more retarded than the next.

      Quebec won hands down. Tightest restrictions with the worst results.

      And our ‘experts’ and "media" in this country STILL have the unmitigated gall to mock Sweden relying on the most sophomoric interpretation of the data. They’re trying to convince themselves Canada was more ‘compassionate’ when in fact it revealed how cruel we were to one another.

      The Amish are another group I was very impressed with. That’s how you judge how you deal with a problem. How you treat one another. Canada is an epic fail on this front.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Alberta is normally the exception, but its premier turned out to be the Canadian version of a RINO. Fortunately the Alberta United Conservatives turfed him over the lockdowns and vaccine passports and he was gone right after the trucker protests.

        1. Rufus The Monocled   2 years ago

          100%. Kenney proved to be a cuck. Danielle Smith wears the dildo. She's awesome.

  8. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'Swedish "authorities automatically checked the lists of people who were infected against the population register, so everyone who died and had tested positive for the virus was counted as a COVID-19 death, even if they died from a heart attack or a fall," writes Norberg.'

    Ha! If the Swedish government cared at all about their people, they would have counted every death as COVID-caused, even if the victims had only been near a person who knew a person who saw a person not wearing a mask. Like in the USA.

    Also, government cash incentives to count deaths as COVID.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Speaking of covid vs with covid:
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12453329/99-PERCENT-Covid-deaths-not-caused-virus-official-data.html

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        Yet, somehow, I'm seeing news articles of "scientists" and others talking about masking again. And some places requiring it.

        Of course, media reports on it because they know we'll be up in arms, or that the true believers will flock to their comments sections. But, in a just world, we'd give as much credence to those people as we would to someone with OCD dictating handwashing protocols or how we had to flip the light switch exactly three times when turning lights off.

        1. CE   2 years ago

          Yeah, every time the case count goes up, people start clamoring for mask mandates. Even though the mask mandates made no difference last time.

        2. KerryB   2 years ago

          You know those street corner Jesus's you inevitably encounter if you visit a large city? The folks who are still Covid crazy wind up in the same mental bucket as them.

  9. Rufus The Monocled   2 years ago (edited)

    This was plainly evident always going to be the case to those of us who kept a calm head.

    Sweden followed established science. I remember listening to Dr. Tegnell and other Swedish officials waaaaayyyy back in April or Mat 2020 (Unherd and the best interviewer in the world Freddie Sayers was one place that to their credit interviewed Swedish experts) and thought to myself no way they’re wrong here. Their approach was simple: We must consider impacts on OVERALL PUBLIC HEALTH.

    We didn’t do that here in North America. And we’re STILL relying on bullshit futile assumptions that have no basis whatsoever in empirical evidence.

    USA and Canada – two dumbasss smart-alec jerk off arrogant anti-human, anti-science countries – fucked OVERALL public health up the ass. Then we wonder why we have non-COVID excess deaths.

    'Doctors baffled'.

    Fuck off, slavers. Where's my woodchipper?

  10. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    Just a reminder as the next strain of the flu is 'discovered'; the CDC and the NIH have no credibility at all.
    None.

    1. Stuck in California   2 years ago (edited)

      They don’t teach the parable of the Goose that Laid the Golden Egg anymore.

      Or the concept of Looters from Ayn Rand.

      You don’t have to like Rand to understand the warning, and apply it to the concept of political capital, which is just like any other wealth. If you dip into capital, you diminish what you have to spend in the future. If you throw it all away, you have nothing and are unlikely to ever get it back.

      I will never trust the CDC. I’ve always thought them ridiculous, but now they are malicious and anti-science in addition to being a bit of a joke.

  11. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    For a counterpoint.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSkepticism/comments/164toiv/column_covid_lockdowns_saved_millions_of_lives_so/

    There’s a lot there to unpack, but let’s start with the most fundamental point: In the early months of the COVID pandemic, before vaccines became widely available, lockdowns worked.
    Combined with other “non-pharmaceutical interventions” (NPIs) such as masking and social distancing, they slowed the spread of the disease, saving millions of people from falling ill, landing in the hospital, or dying. Absent these measures, hospitals, which already were overrun with patients in dire condition, would have fared even worse.
    Studies from as early as mid-2021 validated those findings. The latest evidence comes from the Royal Society, Britain’s 360-year-old academy of sciences, known for its painstaking, objective research. (Its motto “nullius in verba” translates as “take nobody’s word for it.”)

    Of course, a study of history raises the question.

    Why were there no lockdowns during the swine flu pandemic of 2009-2010?

    Why were there no lockdowns during the Hong Kong flu pandemic of 1968-1970?

    Were governments simply letting people die?

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Of course, a study of history raises the question.

      I've got a lot more fundamental scientific historical questions than that.

      Notably, when The Royal Society asserts, by their own data, a synergism that ignores or defies the underlying mechanistic results *and* only applies in the most dilute and least useful situations, aren't they advocating/practicing a/the form of pseudoscience known homeopathy?

      That is, obviously restricting air flow too much is bad, tying people to beds is bad, and extreme isolation is bad. But, the assertion or theory goes, that if we dilute them out and combine them, they're beneficial. Further, just like homeopathy, they don't treat or cure any specific case of COVID or disease by a known method or any of the mechanisms by which the individual components work (and are known to be bad/toxic) but if you're (or your population is) already generally healthy the synergistic tincture helps keep it so without, demonstrably, preventing or curing any disease or condition.

      Rather obviously "Accept nobody else's bullshit." doesn't preclude "Invent bullshit of our own making the same mistakes somebody else made."

    2. KerryB   2 years ago

      From all the scientific literature I read and my own random observations the unproven theory I hold is N95/KN95 masks do reduce the chance of spread. However some diligence must be taken in following proper procedure in order to achieve any effectiveness. My observations were people were either unwilling ( due to force) or simply incapable(stupid). Getting any meaningful data on whether forced mask mandates worked is probably not going to happen.

  12. CE   2 years ago

    Most people on lockdown for a year gained an average of 20 pounds. Which, for a normal person in the 30's or 40's, reduced their life expectancy far more than COVID-19 did.

  13. Spencer O'Neill   2 years ago (edited)

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  14. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

    "That includes bans on public gatherings of more than eight people from November 2020 through May 2021."

    does not sound laissez faire to me

  15. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    The Swedish approach has been discussed since the beginning of the pandemic and I will repeat what I said then, Sweden had programs in place that supported its approach. Sweden has a national healthcare system to take care of sick individuals. The country also has a robust safety net for those that might be financially affected. The Swedish people accept suggestions from their government and voluntarily worked to minimize exposure and transition.

    Too many only see that only see that Sweden did not lock down and assume that approach would work for all.

    1. SRG2   2 years ago

      I note, too, that Sweden's government agencies could act independently of the government (in a way that would probably be unconstitutional here, IMO), and that had its advantages.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        *looks at past 7 years*

        No, our agencies can act pretty independently too.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Here we were led to believe the DOJ was under control of the executive rather than manufacturing 'evidence' to investigate the POTUS!
          Our resident obnoxiously arrogant lying asshole is not real bright.

  16. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago

    Their approach was better even if they hadn't ended up with a slightly better death toll. Why? There is no legitimate reason for governments to ever violate our individual rights, no matter how specious their "reasons" are, unless it is for some absolutely imminent disaster and they can absolutely prove that people WANT to be protected. In other words, even a hurricane is no reason to force evacuation - just inform people their lives are in peril and let them decide. If they die, it's not on government

    Of course, this outlook enrages every totalitarian who dreams of wielding unquestioned power...

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