Supreme Court Lets Biden's 'Ghost Gun' Regulations Stand Pending Ongoing Lawsuit
The plaintiffs in VanDerStok think that BATF's 2022 regulations defining certain gun-making kits as legally the same as guns overreached its constitutional authority.

In a July decision in the case of VanDerStok v. Garland, Judge Reed O'Connor of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas paused the implementation of some Biden administration Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF) regulations on so-called "ghost guns." These kits of non-fireable materials are purchasable online and, with some machining, can be turned into functional homemade guns that would lack any government-ordered serial number and thus be "untraceable."
Yesterday, the Supreme Court, in a one-page order with no analysis, decided that the District Court opinion stopping the enforcement of those anti-"ghost gun" regulations (specifically, "the Final Rule, Definition of 'Frame or Receiver' and Identification of Firearms…codified at 27 C.F.R. pts. 447, 478, and 479 (2022)") is "stayed pending the disposition of the appeal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, if such a writ is timely sought."
In other words, those BATF regulations do still have legal force. For a small preview of how things might go if this case is considered fully by the Supreme Court after the appeals court does its thing, four justices did not join this order: Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Clarence Thomas.
The Biden administration believes that "untraceable firearms" represented, as reported by The New York Times, an "urgent public safety and law enforcement crisis."
As the Times explained, the regulations at issue "did not ban the sale or possession of kits and components that can be assembled to make guns…but it did require manufacturers and sellers to obtain licenses, mark their products with serial numbers and conduct background checks" on buyers. Jennifer VanDerStok and those on her legal team think that the Gun Control Act of 1968 and its strictures were not meant to apply to such items and that BATF lacks authority, under current law, to insist that they do.
In their original August 2022 suit, VanDerStok and her team declared that "President Biden has both expressed and advanced his intentions to expand federal firearm regulations regardless of whether Congress concurs, in contravention of the constitutional limits on Executive authority."
Writing on the original District Court decision in VanDerStok at Reason back in July, J.D. Tuccille hit the heart of the Biden-era BATF rules' overreach:
[P]ressured by the Biden administration, the ATF tried to extend firearms regulations to a lot of things that aren't guns but could, with work, become one. Now a federal judge is injecting some sense, ruling in a lawsuit that bureaucrats can't just decide that inert objects are guns.
As Tuccille explained:
For years, through a page still on its website, federal gun regulators assured the public that "ATF has long held that items such as receiver blanks, 'castings' or 'machined bodies' in which the fire-control cavity area is completely solid and un-machined have not reached the 'stage of manufacture' which would result in the classification of a firearm." That's good sense unless you look forward to background checks and government scrutiny every time you visit the hardware store where all sorts of items that could be turned into guns are sold.
Americans, for excellent reasons, have the right to own weapons and a curtailed right (at least as far as the courts are concerned) to carry them. The right to make guns should logically follow quite easily from this. That right should not present particularly difficult or fresh rethinking for the Supreme Court, given current doctrine concerning the Second Amendment.
Jacob Sullum explained at Reason back in March how:
The ATF's about-face in service of Biden's gun control agenda threatened to destroy an industry that catered to DIY gun makers based on the agency's previous interpretation of the law. Tactical Machining, one of the original plaintiffs in this lawsuit, said the agency's edict, which transformed legal businesses into criminal enterprises, would wipe out more than 90 percent of its revenue.
What's at issue in the VanDerStok case is not core Second Amendment rights but rather questions of a regulatory agency's authority to redefine the law. It was that overreach on BATF's part that Judge O'Connor tried to overturn. (Tuccille gave a detailed explanation in April 2022 of how much chaos and confusion in the world of gun parts sales and adjustments is inherent in the poorly written BATF 2022 regulations.)
Whether or not the Courts or the administration recognize or honor either the core right protected by the Second Amendment or the procedural question about whether administration bureaucrats can change laws to suit them when it comes to homemade gun making, the government certainly can't stop the technologies of communication and production that allow "ghost guns" to flourish.
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are there other assembled goods the government considers parts as whole?
Yes; bicycles are still bicycles, even without peddles.
But are metal tubes that could be converted into a bike frame considered bicycles? That's essentially what the government is doing here from my understanding of the subject.
More like an assembled bicycle frame that needs some holes drilled and some simple machining before you can put all the other parts on, if we're talking 80% lowers.
Yes, the ones they previously stated in writing were NOT firearms are suddenly firearms because the boss said so. Now that 80% line lies somewhere between 0%, a forging or billet, and 100%, a completed frame, and the ATF is going to decide ad hoc which is which apparently on a case by case basis.
I actually have a couple 0% forgings that I may just complete as a 'fuck you' to Brandon.
Metal tubes? Those could be made into firearms easily. See, for example, the Philippine Guerilla Gun.
You can make a pretty effective 12 ga shotgun with about $30 of parts from a hardware store.
But is the peddle a bicycle?
You might convince me it is, but it would be a hard sell for certain.
Pedal.
Pettle?
Yes; bicycles are still bicycles, even without peddles.
You misspelled "scooter".
Pedals.
A whole fucking thread about peddles (what a peddler does) vs pedals.
If anyone had any doubt, this is most definitely the Reason commentariat, doing what it does best; niggling. Just cannot let a typo (autocorrect in this case) just be a typo.
I thought you were riffing on SPB who literally got it wrong a couple days ago.
(autocorrect in this case)
I’m calling BS. There’s no way your phone corrected “scooter” to “bicycles are still bicycles, even without peddles.”
Its kind of amusing watching governments try to control something they lost the ability to regulate years ago. Per Cody Wilson, I'm waiting for the day in which they argue that anyone selling a rectangular block of metal will need to have a FFL and do background checks on buyers.
That is where they're going, kind of. What they really want to do is make having the plans for guns de facto illegal for anybody who has machine tools, (including potentially 3d printers.) by making the combination of of materials, tools, and knowledge legally an "illegal gun".
They're trying to prepare for the day they shut down civilian firearms sales, by foreclosing the immediate growth of black market manufacturers.
"What they really want to do is make having the plans for guns de facto illegal for anybody who has machine tools"
As someone who left Europe years ago without ever looking back, thank you for being a fellow American who understands this. Unfortunately, this doesn't sound far-fetched at all to me. And "who has machine tools" may cease to be a requirement at one point.
They've already tried making books on how to manufacture guns into "munitions", legally, so they couldn't be put online lest somebody overseas reads it without a permit.
The ATF is under tremendous pressure to do what Biden cannot do via executive order or without Congress passing legislation. You thus have reversals of long standing policy on things like “80%” frames and receivers and pistol braces. I’ve engaged in both and along with 92-99% of otherwise law abiding citizens (that is how many did NOT register during the designated amnesty period) with no desire or intent to cause harm, will be a default felon.
Our government is steadily losing any measure of legitimacy.
Losing?
Well, it definitely isn't gaining.
Is it possible to have negative legitimacy?
I have it on good authority from sarc that Joe supports the constitution.
The Democrats always seem a lot less fascist when Sarckles tells us about them.
Just wait, hardware stores will have to get FFLs and run background checks to sell plumbing parts (because the could be used to make crude guns).
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Let's just shut down Congress and let Gort the robot make rules and enforce them to keep us Americans peaceful, unarmed, and happy.
Ghosts don't exist. How can something that doesn't exist be regulated?
Laws and regulations, by definition, cannot prevent any particular action by humans. If humans violate a law or regulation, first they have to be caught, then they have to be charged, then they have to be tried, then they have to be found guilty and only then can they be punished unless you consider arrest, bail and pre-trial detention to be punishments. All laws and regulations, therefore, depend to some extent on voluntary cooperation by subjects. Presumably reasonable laws would be complied with by the vast majority of honest people, leaving only a very few criminals to violate them with ill intent; and a few occasional mistakes. The more unreasonable and extensive the laws and regulations become and the more abusive the enforcers act, the larger the number of otherwise honest humans who will want to violate them. Since government officials can only catch a small number of violators, it leads to targeting of people they do not like with the inevitable unequal protection under the law that makes people angry and antagonistic towards government in general. Say what you will about the Founders, but they saw this coming and tried to prevent it.
"The more unreasonable and extensive the laws and regulations become and the more abusive the enforcers act, the larger the number of otherwise honest humans who will want to violate them. Since government officials can only catch a small number of violators, it leads to targeting of people they do not like with the inevitable unequal protection under the law that makes people angry and antagonistic towards government in general. Say what you will about the Founders, but they saw this coming and tried to prevent it."
Hear, hear!
It is still illegal for individuals who are not legally allowed to purchase, own, or otherwise have a traditional firearm, to have a self-made firearm.
Asking for a friend?
I doubt that a “prohibited person” would pass that test, albeit self made.
SCOTUS: Committing no-shit fraud might not run afoul of free speech because if you apply the law to other people who are also breaking other laws it could be over broad.
Also SCOTUS: Selling someone a hunk of metal might be specific enough to fall outside "Shall not be infringed."
Parts kits are not firearms unless statutorily defines as such (which is still Constitutionally suspect.) ATF has no regulatory authority over them unless so authorized by Congress.
Joe Biden hates firearms in the hands of anyone but the state. He's also convinced that the Executive has unlimited power to do whatever it wants. He is mistaken.
If it can't fire a bullet, it ain't a firearm.
That is no harder to understand than "shall not be infringed".
I knew the supremes can't define a woman, turns out they can't define firearm either.
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