Ohio's Issue 1 Doesn't Mention Abortion. But That's Why People Are Voting Today.
Plus: What media gets wrong about "book bans," Yellow Corporation to default on $700 million pandemic aid loan, and more...
Today's special election in Ohio will determine the fate of Issue 1, a ballot measure meant to make it harder to amend the state's constitution and to get amendments on the state's ballot in the first place. Wrapped up in this battle is a larger fight over abortion rights—and one that could be coming soon to other states.
If Issue 1 passes, Ohio will require proposed constitutional amendments to receive 60 percent of the vote, instead of the current simple majority required. It would also change signature collection rules for groups trying to get amendments on the ballot, requiring the collection of signatures from at least 5 percent of voters in the last gubernatorial election in all counties, instead of the now-required 44 counties. And it would get rid of a 10-day period currently allowed to replace signatures that the secretary of state deems invalid.
Issue 1 is backed by Ohio Republicans, who have promoted it with some interesting rhetoric. One talking point has been that it protects the Ohio Constitution from out-of-state interests. (For instance: "At its core, it's about keeping out-of-state special interest groups from buying their way into our constitution," Protect Women Ohio Press Secretary Amy Natoce told Fox News.) Another has been that it signals trust in elected officials to safeguard citizen interests, rather than letting a random majority of voters decide what's best. (The current simple-majority rule for amending the state constitution "sends the message that if you don't like what the legislature is doing, you can just put it on the ballot, and soon the constitution will be thousands of pages long and be completely meaningless," Carol Tobias, president of the National Right to Life Committee, told Politico in a prime example of this tack.)
Arguments like these are notable because they go against conservative rhetoric in other realms. One could easily imagine an alternate universe in which Ohio Republicans railed against a measure like Issue One on the grounds that it sought to make it harder for ordinary people to have a voice.
But Republicans have an ulterior motive in making it more difficult for Ohio voters to amend the Constitution: an amendment on the ballot this November stating that "every individual has a right to make and carry out one's own reproductive decisions, including but not limited to decisions on contraception, fertility treatment, continuing one's own pregnancy, miscarriage care, and abortion."
"The State shall not, directly or indirectly, burden, penalize, prohibit, interfere with, or discriminate against either an individual's voluntary exercise of this right or a person or entity that assists an individual exercising this right, unless the State demonstrates that it is using the least restrictive means to advance the individual's health in accordance with widely accepted and evidence-based standards of care," it continues. "Abortion may be prohibited after fetal viability. But in no case may such an abortion be prohibited if in the professional judgement of the pregnant patient's treating physician it is necessary to protect the pregnant patient's life or health."
Because of the upcoming vote on the abortion amendment, the battle over Issue 1 has turned into a proxy battle over Ohio abortion laws. (For instance, in my parents' Catholic parish bulletin in Cincinnati, a section purporting to explain the impact of Issue 1 instead focused almost entirely on the fall abortion measure.)
"Given current polling, Republicans are expected to lose the November vote, so they're trying to change the rules mid-game," writes Politico contributor Joshua Zeitz. "The gambit is so transparent that even two former GOP governors, Robert Taft and John Kasich, have come out in opposition."
The abortion element means Issue 1 has attracted a lot more attention than a battle over ballot procedures and constitutional amendment rules likely otherwise would. As of yesterday, "more than 500,000 voters [had] already voted on Issue 1," reported Politico.
A USA TODAY Network/Suffolk University poll from July suggested that Issue 1 has a wide range of detractors. Fifty-seven percent of the voters polled said they were against it, while just 26 percent were for it. Opponents came from across the political spectrum. "Democrats are more likely to oppose Issue 1, but 41% of Republicans, 60% of independents and 41% of Ohioans who voted for President Donald Trump in 2020 said they're also against it," reported the Cincinnati Enquirer.
Many supporters of Issue 1 have been open about the fact that it's meant to prevent the November abortion initiative from passing. But supporters have also been playing up other conservative fears in an attempt to pass it. For instance, one particularly disingenuous ad that's been running frequently in Ohio in recent weeks suggests that Issue 1 protects against those who would "put trans ideology in classrooms and encourage sex changes for kids."
Measures like Issue 1 may be coming to many more states than just Ohio.
One "trend in the post-Dobbs era has been the use of direct democracy to protect abortion rights," notes The New York Times. "The mechanisms of direct democracy—referendums, initiatives, ballot questions and the like—allow voters to register their preferences directly, bypassing elected officials and other intermediaries." That's made them an appealing target for anti-abortion advocates worried about what will happen when protecting abortion is put to a popular vote.
FREE MINDS
Kat Rosenfield looks at recent controversies over books and suggests the popular narrative surrounding this surge of "book bans" is wrong. Media coverage has focused largely on right-wing parents with anti-LGBT agendas or qualms about books concerned with race. Conservatives certainly are pushing for certain books to be restricted or excluded from school libraries. But "for every parents' rights group demanding the removal of Gender Queer from the school library, members of the political left have their own, no less ideology-driven ways of restricting access to books," writes Rosenfield for Pirate Wires. What's more, the battle lines haven't been drawn over book bans in any traditional sense of the word but over what books should be stocked in school and public libraries.
The ubiquity of the term, "book ban," elides the fact that book bans as such don't really exist anymore. …
By the time you're talking about limiting its distribution in a library setting, you're not really fighting about the book anymore. You're engaged in a bigger, uglier power struggle for the soul of the library itself. …
This is perhaps the most important context missing from the "book banning" discourse: absolutely none of this is about the books themselves. This is also the good news: despite the efforts of folks on both sides of the political aisle, and despite the enormous amount of ink spilled about the scourge of book bans, the actual content of most school libraries — even the ones in Florida — remains truly and wildly diverse in the original sense of the word. For every explicitly ideological YA book aimed at gender-questioning or LGBT youth, there's a slew of ordinary coming of age novels, faith-based books about troubled Christian teens, and no shortage of deeply unwoke heterosexual smut for the brazen few who are both nerdy and horny enough to go digging through the stacks for Flowers in the Attic or Clan of the Cave Bear (a.k.a. every school library's true, albeit silent constituency).
Instead, this is a conflict centered on the library as a public institution — and more specifically, on what happens when one of those institutions abandons political neutrality as a core value. We've already seen how this has played out in media and academia, how the perception of political partisanship leads to a catastrophic loss of trust. As the columnist Megan McArdle notes, "It turns out that if you treat your profession as an explicitly political project, people will extend your profession the same trust they extend politicians."
More here.
In related news:
????In a new report, PEN America warns against the cancellation of books due to online outrage—and calls for a broad recommitment to the freedom to write & the freedom to read.
Read: Booklash: Literary Freedom, Online Outrage, and the Language of Harm https://t.co/vyvuhHcmYk pic.twitter.com/lNUbWQFV9G
— PEN America (@PENamerica) August 7, 2023
FREE MARKETS
The trucking company Yellow Corporation has filed for bankruptcy, with plans to lay off 30,000 employees—and default on a $700 million pandemic aid loan. The company "blames the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT) trucking union, of which 22,000 of the company's 30,000 employees are members," notes Reason's Joe Lancaster:
Yellow CEO Darren Hawkins criticizes the union for "literally driving our company out of business" due to "nine months of union intransigence, bullying and deliberately destructive tactics." …
But the situation is more complicated than a disagreement between a company's management and its workers. In 2020, as countless companies struggled during the COVID-19 pandemic, Congress apportioned trillions of dollars to help both workers and companies survive the sudden economic blow. But hidden in that amount was a $17 billion fund under the Treasury Department's sole control, to be disbursed to companies deemed necessary to national security.
In May 2020, Sen. Jerry Moran (R–Kan.) petitioned then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for help on Yellow's behalf; six weeks later, the company was approved for a $700 million loan, and in exchange, the government took a 29.6 percent stake in the company. The Treasury Department later explained that Yellow was "the leading transportation provider to the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Customs and Border Protection." But at the same time, the Department of Justice was suing Yellow over allegations that the company overcharged the government by inflating its freight volumes. (The company settled the case in March 2022 for $6.85 million.)
Yellow Company's bankruptcy "underscores criticism" of the loan, notes Axios. "Criticism of the Yellow loan has been bipartisan, beginning when Democrats controlled the House of Representatives and continuing under Republican leadership," and now "taxpayers are about to take a bath on Yellow."
QUICK HITS
• "I think it is very safe to say at this point that 2023 is the odds-on favorite to be the warmest year on record," climate scientist Zeke Hausfather told The Washington Post. Hausfather previously expected 2023 to be the fifth-hottest year on record. "What's changed is the last two months have been incredibly hot, setting records by a very large margin compared to what we've seen in the past."
• What's going on in Niger?
• A federal judge has rejected former President Donald Trump's defamation countersuit against E. Jean Carroll, who earlier this year won a $5 million judgment in a sexual misconduct suit against him.
• The Free Press explores Anthony Fauci's behind-the-scenes machinations to control the narrative about COVID-19's origins.
• Texas has appealed a judge's Friday ruling that women with medically complicated pregnancies were exempt from the state's bans on abortion. "The appeal placed a stay on the injunction—meaning that the abortion ban will not change in practice," explains The Dallas Morning News. "The case's fate is now up to the Texas Supreme Court."
• Are Republicans tiring of attacks on "wokeness"?
• PayPal has launched a stablecoin. The coin "is 100% backed by U.S. dollar deposits, short-term U.S Treasuries and similar cash equivalents," and is "redeemable 1:1 for U.S. dollars," states the company in a press release. "The stablecoin is built on Ethereum," notes The Verge.
• The Food and Drug Administration has approved zuranolone, the first drug specifically aimed at postpartum depression.
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What’s going on in Niger?
They still owe me my cut of that dead prince’s estate, that’s what.
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Is it a psyop that you’re not supposed to care about this…
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1688514347180400640?t=EJirf9aDSo8XVh3520a_5g&s=19
Generation Z will be the last generation of Americans with a white majority, according to census data. The nation’s so-called majority minority arrived with Generation Alpha, those born since about 2010.
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I think the lack of assimilation to the culture is more concerning that specific race. And that it’s happening at the same time as the progressive march through the institutions is being completed.
I worry less about assimilation than about broad support for basic American ideals, like individual liberty and autonomy, property rights, free markets, and limits on government.
Give me people of any color who agree on these principles, and we can get along and prosper.
Yeah, I could have specified, but accepting those ideals is what I was referring to.
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The people unwilling to assimilate are largely old people unwilling to let younger folks make their own way and form their own rules. The abortion issue is the most blatant example of this. The culture at large accepts that, as it was for since the Roe decision, an issue left to a pregnant woman and her doctor. They respect personal bodily autonomy. Older, more religious people are primarily responsible for the attempt to cram Ol’ St. Jesus down the gagging throats (and up into the uteruses of women.
The people unwilling to assimilate are largely old people unwilling to let younger folks make their own way and form their own rules. The abortion issue is the most blatant example of this. The culture at large accepts that, as it was for since the Roe decision, an issue left to a pregnant woman and her doctor. They respect personal bodily autonomy. Older, more religious people are primarily responsible for the attempt to cram Ol’ St. Jesus down the gagging throats (and up into the uteruses of women.
It was just as stupid the first time you posted it.
Don’t worry, the global western elite will still be lily white, with only the odd Arabian prince and Singapore billionaire thrown in.
Their plan on importing more compliant populations to rule seems to be falling apart however, as the immigrants are starting to reject the messaging and are becoming more like the populations they were meant to replace.
For example they wanted more Muslims to help them fight against the Christians, but instead they allied with each other against the trans agenda. That was a huge disappointment. And the Hispanics won’t play ball on abortion.
The trans issue was a huge misstep. It’s reaction is why I lean more white pilled.
Example:
https://twitter.com/againstgrmrs/status/1688642959023931393
You sure the prince wasn’t Nigerian, from Nigeria (people from Niger are Nigerien)
Better not have been.
Booo!!!!
Wrong country. Take it easy, Fist.
🙂
😉
Wrong country didn’t stop Bush Jr.
Oooh! Deeeeep burn!
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😉
Hisss!
He’ll pay it in yellowcake.
I’m still trying to find out the difference between Yellow Cake Uranium and Bundt Cake Uranium and Tiramisu Uranium.
🙂
😉
They still owe me my cut of that dead prince’s estate, that’s what.
You sure you provided them with the correct routing numbers? I hear it’s easy to mess that up.
Reminds me when I was a kid I pronounced Niger like in a rap song.
Niga
I was so sad when rap genius killed its stats page. It started to look like “hoe” was becoming more popular than “ho”. Finally rappers apprediating gardening tools more than the world’s oldest profession.
The Free Press explores Anthony Fauci’s behind-the-scenes machinations to control the narrative about COVID-19’s origins.
Verboten Topic Alert!
So, is that misinformation or disinformation? Which info color warning flag?
What color flag indicates tar and feathers?
Warning flag color is the most important thing.
Malinformation – he had malicious intent.
Are Republicans tiring of attacks on “wokeness”?
It was the UFO’s distraction that finally got them off that bone!
Have you seen an alien drag queen show?
How would you know?
Tentacles, dude, tentacles.
LOL. FTA:
New polling shows national Republicans and Iowa Republican caucusgoers were more interested in “law and order” than battling “woke” schools, media and corporations.
As if they couldn’t do both.
Wishful thinking indeed:
“BREAKING: After losing over $27 billion in market value, Anheuser-Busch is now being forced to SELL OFF several of their beer brands.
AB-InBev will reportedly be selling Shock Top, Breckenridge Brewery, Blue Point Brewing Company, 10 Barrel Brewing Company, Redhook Brewery, Widmer Brothers Brewing, Square Mile Cider Company and Hiball Energy to Canadian cannabis company Tilray.”
https://twitter.com/realmichaelseif/status/1688952633883602957
More here: https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/07/anheuser-busch-beer-brands-bud-light-dylan-mulvaney-cananbis-tilray/
Anheuser-Busch InBev (AB-InBev) will be selling eight craft beer brands to Tilray Brands, according to a Monday announcement from the anti-American beer giant. The move will cut AB-InBev’s craft beer portfolio significantly.
In addition to the beer brands, Anheuser-Busch will also be selling off the brands’ employees, breweries and associated brewpubs.
when Breckenridge was still a craft beer mid-90s their stuff was top-notch.
The coin “is 100% backed by U.S. dollar deposits, short-term U.S Treasuries and similar cash equivalents,” and is “redeemable 1:1 for U.S. dollars…”
Ouch.
So not worth much, and less every minute.
The Treasury Department later explained that Yellow was “the leading transportation provider to the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.”
Well, now I really bad.
Instead, this is a conflict centered on the library as a public institution — and more specifically, on what happens when one of those institutions abandons political neutrality as a core value.
Can’t the culture war just let the hobos masturbate in peace?
Not with new DEI porn requirements.
Don’t knock paraplegic porn until you’ve tried it.
Somebody has been looking at Jeff’s browser history.
legs can get in the way
And can allow the boy to run away.
Aren’t libraries just a way for cheap liberals to get around copyright protections, reading books for free and robbing authors of income?
If Issue 1 passes, Ohio will require proposed constitutional amendments to receive 60 percent of the vote, instead of the current simple majority required.
Majority rules, baby!
I think it should generally be more difficult to change a constitution than a simple majority. I’m not sure that 60% is going far enough.
Agreed.
And I would like to see 60% as a minimum for any consequential election.
‘propose’ an amendment; Not to actually change it.
It wouldn’t make any sense to have a simple majority “democratic” changeable Constitution.
Some states do have that, though.
Any state constitution can be changed by 5 SCOTUS judges.
Does Ohio lack an Initiative procedure, where the people directly vote on a change to the law rather than the state constitution? If so, this is a large part of the problem. Changes to the constitution should be permanent, and it’s a little nuts to be encoding changes to the law into the constitution even before the impact of overturning Roe v Wade is understood.
I’m from Michigan, which has both Initiatives allowing voters to change a law (and banning the legislature from reversing the initiative too soon) and Constitutional Amendments allowing voters to change the Constitution. More signatures are required on the petitions to put an amendment on the ballot, but if one of the major parties is pushing for the change, that’s no problem. Then either way the measure only needs with 50% + 1 vote to pass. And so we often get constitutional amendments where just changing the law would do and the constitution keeps growing longer and less clear.
I would be very happy with a super-majority requirement for the popular vote to approve an amendment.
I think it is very safe to say at this point that 2023 is the odds-on favorite to be the warmest year on record…
The world’s asphalt is finally doing its job on our carefully-placed weather stations.
No worries. Once we outlaw petroleum and cement production, we can go back to mud roads–much less distorting of nearby thermometers.
I think it is very safe to say at this point that 2023 is the odds-on favorite to be the warmest year on record…”
Global satellite records reaching all the way back to the 80’s.
Here I thought they moved all of the weather stations downstream of power plant exhaust plumes.
Removed the sun shades and painted the sensors black.
14% of the sensors should be black. Representation matters.
From a different article:
“I think this is a sign that we’re heading into a very hot period. June was the warmest June on record by a pretty big margin,” said Hausfather. “At this point, it looks increasingly likely that 2023 as a whole will be the warmest year since records began in the mid-1800s.”
The mid-1800s? This seems like he’s trying to stretch this hottest year thing beyond believability. Is he really trying to compare records from the 1850s with today?
records from the 1850s
He’s relying on White Supremacist records from the days of slavery?
Everyone knows if someone owns a rifle and a cow they can’t possibly do “The Science”.
I did see where they removed a bunch of temperatures from the historical record. Ain’t no way it was that hot back then. Those yokels done gone and made a mistake on this one.
Feels like a testing con job. This is one of the coldest springs/summers I’ve experienced in years.
https://twitter.com/Indian_Bronson/status/1688871304588369920?t=50eFyXjlXLC4IsVUWrcjhw&s=19
68 years of utter failure since Buckley founded National Review, re-invented in a tweet.
San Francisco, California is the way it is because of policy passed and officials elected by its voters at the district, city, and State level.
Voters deserve democratic results.
“@amytheartist
Conservative influencers alienate potential allies when they act vindictive like this. It’s their worst quality.
Assuming this woman is liberal, this could be an opportunity to reach her. Instead you’re bullying her? I was a left libertarian until I lived in San Francisco.
Conservatism is actually about restraining your impolite impulses, to turn us away from animalistic ways to create a more civilized place. This is neither civilized nor effective strategy.
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Assuming this woman is liberal, this could be an opportunity to reach her.
She literally started her tweet by literally saying “I’m literally shaking right now.” and literally holding up her hands with a fake tremor, literally.
No thanks. You can keep your weirdo rape fantasy loonies.
She also posted another video alleging her attacker was a *well dressed* white man.
The centrist eunuch philosophy of “reaching out instead of mocking” is the most proven failure in the history of human behavior.
Would she feel better if attacked by a DEI-compliant bi-racial trans fattie wearing homeless chic?
Nope, only pouncing republicans.
Yeah, don’t think I’m going to be able to convince that chick of anything, regardless of my approach.
Every time I see an argument that TikTok shouldn’t be banned, I see videos like this and think that it wouldn’t be such a bad thing. All it’s done is provide a platform for further attention-seeking behaviors, especially in obnoxious women who 30 years ago would have just bitched about this on the phone to their girlfriends instead of spewing it all over the internet for asspats.
WITF does National Review have to do with any of this???
That it is, and always has been, false/controlled opposition.
Won’t say ALWAYS. Since Buckley left and they got rid of guys like Steyn, yeah.
Until people realize they made a mistake, nothing changes. The Right has absolutely nothing to apologize for as the Left is solely in charge of every aspect of her local gov’t and the assailant, guaranteed, was not one of the 5 Republicans there.
Wasn’t Buckley CIA?
For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
I thought we were rid of you! Fuck no!
Fuck off and die, troll.
FOADIAF.
True libertarians like Jeff, Mike, and sarc have defended Jack Smiths construction of fraud to go after Trump. They claim knowing lies meant to effect an election are critical to prosecute and crimes.
Jim Jordan has released files from Facebook of multiple FBI agents lying about topics such as Hunters laptop, a story they sought to bury to effect an election.
Based on the supported construction they support, the true libertarians should support indictments for a lot of FBI officials.
Links and excerpts below. Long so not posting it all.
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1688553339624042496
Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
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23h
FBI Special Agent Elvis Chan is the main conduit between the FBI’s Foreign Influence Task Force and Big Tech.
Agent Chan was in the meeting between the FBI and Facebook on Oct. 14, 2020—the day the
@nypost
published its story on the Hunter Biden laptop.
Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
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23h
Laura Dehmlow is the current Section Chief of the Foreign Influence Task Force.
On Oct. 14, when Facebook asked if the laptop was real, she responded “no comment” even though the FBI had the laptop and knew it was real.
Rep. Jim Jordan
@Jim_Jordan
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23h
In July,
@JudiciaryGOP
and
@Weaponization
interviewed Laura Dehmlow.
Her testimony was shocking, revealing that the FBI deliberately withheld critical information from social media companies about Hunter Biden’s laptop the day that the
@nypost
story broke.
OPR might want to talk to SSA Chan very soon. He evidently lied under oath to the Judiciary Committee. SSA Chan better get himself a lawyer.
With this current DoJ and FBI? Chan is getting s raise.
Presidential medal.
And MSNBC contract.
Don’t worry, they’ll be admitting it was fraud but that it’s a good thing as The Narrative shifts in the next few weeks.
“Special Agent Elvis Chan”
I think I found the name for my next Shadowrun character.
https://twitter.com/CCrowley100/status/1688899166850727936?t=Xl-10SYS0jxghbVAqJY2ww&s=19
The headline reads, “Teen girl allegedly slugs Asian woman.”
The attacker is nondescript, while the victim is clearly identified.
Also, observe the use of the term slugs as opposed to phrases like violently attacks.
Observe things carefully; become attuned to their subtleties and the nuanced manipulation of language.
The Regime asserts its dominance over the narrative by artfully manipulating the language utilized.
Our most powerful weapon lies in our capacity to pierce through this veil of control, articulating reality with clarity, precision, and conciseness.
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Black Lies Matter!
Federal Judge strikes down yet another unconstitutional gun law passed by democrats and signed by the ever so dreamy Polis.
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/federal-judge-halts-colorados-new-gun-purchase-age-limit-law
A reminder for when people defend Reason’s position on 2A that this is their favorite governor.
Reason’s position on 2A
That the 2nd applies only to flintlock muskets?
Better constitutional amendment that gets right to the point:
Vote for one:
A. The mysterious alien biology responsible for crisis pregnancy is just a clump of cells.
B. A fetus is somehow human and therefore deserves a minimum of legal protection.
Usual Jack Smith misconduct is highlighted by judge over seeing documents case. Asks Smith why he is using a D.C. grand jury for a case in Florida.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/08/judge-in-trump-documents-case-questions-prosecutions-use-of-out-of-district-grand-jury/
Chances the judge doesn’t dismiss because of that?
100%
And people wonder why the Right wants federal crimes to be tried somewhere besides DC. I’d argue for a rotating location given the inability to find an impartial jury there.
And Biden’s DoJ knows it and is using it to their advantage.
Also…weren’t we told this was different because a FLORIDA grand jury handed down the indictment? I remember reading that here.
It was not true?
Hollywood remake on its way
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the
BombWoke.From precious bodily fluids to universal gender fluid.
Today’s special election in Ohio will determine the fate of Issue 1, a ballot measure meant to make it harder to amend the state’s constitution
I’m actually curious if Reason thinks amending the federal constitution is too difficult and would support a 50+1 change vehicle for the federal constitution.
It is almost like editors here don’t even understand how government was formed and pieces put into place to temper wild swings of public changes. The founders understood the pitfalls of pure democracy having been students of history. It is why the House and Senate were setup in conjunction. It is why the amendment process is more onerous.
I don’t get what is agitating ENB. The people of OH are voting. Big Deal. If they want to make it hard to amend their state constitution, fine. If they want to be lenient about abortion, so be it. They have to live with it.
But why even have a massive federal government if states, and the people who live in them, can do whatever they want?
Something something endowed by their Creator something something happiness…
When did the Free Press become a Russian Alt Right news source?
2016?
1989?
“unless the State demonstrates that it is using the least restrictive means to advance the individual’s health in accordance with widely accepted and evidence-based standards of care”
No mention of “as would be determined by a reasonable person”?!
Where are you going to find one of those?
‘Media coverage has focused largely on right-wing parents with anti-LGBT agendas or qualms about books concerned with race. Conservatives certainly are pushing for certain books to be restricted or excluded from school libraries. But “for every parents’ rights group demanding the removal of Gender Queer from the school library, members of the political left have their own, no less ideology-driven ways of restricting access to books,” writes Rosenfield for Pirate Wires.’
Really? The political faction that controls most of the media, academia, tech, and current government fucks with people in, um, more “sophisticated” ways? Do they also do that in subverting democracy and overthrowing results of elections?
The media coverage mentioned included reason. They have pushed the narrative often.
“The ubiquity of the term, “book ban,” elides the fact that book bans as such don’t really exist anymore. …”
Admits the truth.
“By the time you’re talking about limiting its distribution in a library setting, you’re not really fighting about the book anymore. You’re engaged in a bigger, uglier power struggle for the soul of the library itself. …”
But goes back to gaslighting.
“Instead, this is a conflict centered on the library as a public institution — and more specifically, on what happens when one of those institutions abandons political neutrality as a core value.”
And then right back to lying. The vast majority of these cases are about outright porn and sex cult religious instructions in classrooms and school libraries. Not public libraries.
“You’re engaged in a bigger, uglier power struggle for the soul of the library itself.”
Yeah this made me go wtf?
And is probably the line that got ENB’s attention.
When an excerpt from a book can’t be read into the record of a School Board meeting because of it’s profanity, I don’t think that it belongs in the School’s Library.
Are we already back to restricting Huckleberry Finn again?
Is it banned in Niga?
I think most of those parents just have a problem with the T part.
Well, there is also the priming of children to think giving blowjobs and anal sex with adults is normal.
“I think it is very safe to say at this point that 2023 is the odds-on favorite to be the warmest year on record,”
Sure. And given that weather records go back 200 years at most, our sampling of earth history is now up to 0.00004%.
That’s like judging a full human lifetime on a random 2 minute sample.
I understand and agree with what you’re saying about Global Warming/Climate Change, but not the best analogy. Humans can do some really fucked-up, life-defining things in 2 minutes.
You’re right. It’s like judging a full human lifetime on a 2 min. sample of their dermal biome.
Better.
But enough about blowing up Nordstream.
Reminder: they’re finding Viking farms in Greenland as ice melts.
Yes – the MWP is well known by climate scientists. You are of course aware that it was localised in extent.
Hardly localized. There’s also the Roman Warm Period that gets overlooked/ignored by these fear mongers. Tell me, SRG, how far north are grapes grown currently in Europe.
……………
And you don’t have an answer. Well, I’ll answer for you, Diet Shrike.
In England, there were vineyards as far north as Northamptonshire and Lincolnshire in the Roman Warm Period and Medieval Warm period.
Do they make wine there today, or anytime since 1300? The short answer is no. In fact, the climate had gotten so cool in northern Europe that people changed their drinking habits from wine to beer, cider, and hard liquor such as gin.
I know that they grew vineyards further north in Britain – after all, Britain is in the North Atlantic – though the loss of vineyards in Northampton is more than compensated for by a gain in shoe manufacturing 🙂
Fuck off shrike:
https://eos.org/research-spotlights/medieval-temperature-trends-in-africa-and-arabia
Fuck off yourself, you lying cunt.
Yes, there was some warming elsewhere.
But compared to current global warming?
And as you accept EOS as a source:
https://eos.org/articles/how-do-you-know-if-youve-experienced-global-warming
You know it’s not literally everywhere on earth right?
We’re having a very pleasant summer in Michigan.
To paraphrase Michael Mann, if you think you are personally witnessing climate change year-over-year, you are succumbing to hysteria.
Sure, EOS, a publication of the American Geophysical Union. And, in the past 20 years, with a big emphasis on “union”. Also the professional society that boycotted their own convention in New Orleans because of LA politics, and the chance that AGU women and tradesmen might not be able to get an emergency abortion.
Fortunately there are also climate reconstruction methods – though these don’t cover the first few billion years of Earth history so you’ll probably dismiss them as well.
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/paleoclimatology/climate-reconstruction
In addition, the AGW hypothesis was not that temperatures would be unprecedented, only that warming would occur owing to human activity.
Climate denialists deny that warming is occurring. Would 2023 being the warmest year on record evidence for or against the denialist position?
Would 2023 being the warmest year on record evidence for or against the denialist position?
Neither. We have 200/6,000,000,000 years of history.
Nor does it support the climate cultist position of destroying our quality of life for a phenomenon we cannot control.
Neither. We have 200/6,000,000,000 years of history.
We have 200 years of records. The AGW hypothesis is not that we will shortly experience the hottest temps ever – we know that isn’t true, only that it will be hotter than it has been more recently. Indeed, the claim is wrt to the start of the Industrial Revolution – per Arrhenius.
So we only have to consider the last 200 years of less. Try again, this time with honesty.
Nor does it support the climate cultist position of destroying our quality of life for a phenomenon we cannot control.
What phenomenon can we not control?
We have a mere 60 years of satellite date, 40 years of reliable, accurate satellite data, decent records going back a mere 200 years or so, and other records regarding glaciers and melt going back 2,000 years or so. But, that’s it. After that, it’s 3.5 billion years of the geologic record, and guess what, Diet Shrike, climate change happened without us!
We’re actually near the low end of atmospheric CO2 (~400 ppm). It’s been far higher in the distant past. In fact, in the Carboniferous (300 mya), the levels crashed so hard, from 2,000 ppm to 200 ppm, that an ice age ensued. Yes, you read that right, it was 2,000 ppm.
And “decent” is a bit of a misnomer as there is scant evidence that they have moved temp stations when cities were developed around them.
What phenomenon can we not control?
A hell of a lot of phenomena. Let’s start with weather, then volcanic eruptions, then go to plate tectonics (and earthquakes), and go from there to solar radiation.
Yes indeed. And how much of those phenomena contribute to the variation of global climate?
By what miraculous process does increasing CO2 from 270ppm to >400ppm not result in warming?
Given that with 2,000 ppm, the average global temperature may have been at least 10C higher than current in the Carboniferous. Yet, Diet Shrike, plants absolutely thrived. So did invertebrates from the massive amount of oxygen given off (estimated at 35%).
1C is well within the amount we should expect from going in and out of interglacials as we are currently experiencing. Yet, people like you seem to prefer fear mongering.
And there was 100% humidity.
Just because the planet thrived doesn’t mean that the atmospheric conditions were conducive to humans thriving. But this is obvious and you must know it.
So why mislead?
And there was 100% humidity.
Over the whole entire planet? That seems implausible. What’s your source for this?
Shrike’s butthole.
An important source of another greenhouse gas.
“What phenomenon can we not control?”
We knew you aren’t real bright, but you continue to remind us.
We cannot control the climate. At least not with anything that is being proposed now. All the growth in CO2 emissions is from the developing world. They want to keep developing, which means they need cheap energy, which means fossil fuels. The industrialized world can chop its dick off as a symbolic gesture, but it won’t change anything about the trajectory of climate.
It is also unclear to what extent human activity can be blamed for any weather climate phenomena. We really don’t have a good understanding of climate. Models are not scientific theories, they are hypotheses. It’s insanely hubristic to think we can fix climate. Spending trillions on it will only be another wealth transfer to the corrupt and powerful. If sea level rises significantly then we’ll have to mitigate that somehow. But it will happen gradually and people will have time to adapt.
This is what bugs me the most. The models I mean. So many people treat any computer model as the infallible word of Science (PBUH), when some are laughably wrong (looking at you Mr. 2 million people dead from Covid in a matter of months) and most are at best really good hypotheticals.
It can’t be said enough: models are hypotheses, not results. Anyone can fine tune a model to fit the past. If it fails to make valid predictions, then the model is wrong, no matter how well it models historical data.
Hey Diet Shrike… what was the LIttle Ice Age and how does using that as the basis to start your alarmism help your argument?
I am not being alarmist. I note the standard fallacy of unique cause – because parts of Earth warmed naturally in the past, therefore any warming now must be natural and cannot have been caused by human activity. It’s a bullshit argument.
Where’s your argument for natural causes or lack of warming?
I note the standard fallacy of unique cause – because parts of Earth warmed naturally in the past, therefore any warming now must be natural and cannot have been caused by human activity.
How would you characterize the notion that Earth is behaving the way it always has, but assuming that the reason for that behavior has recently and suddenly changed and that the Earth would have abandoned it’s billions-of-years-long pattern of constant climate change for stasis if not for human activity of an unspecified nature?
And on the topic of ‘unique causes,’ you must be aware that the “consensus” that there is human caused warming is actually aggregating quite a large number of fundamentally disparate causes under the category “human.”
What’s the technical term for pretending that several disparate ideas are actually one idea that is supported by the support for all of the ideas that it isn’t?
The AGW hypothesis is not that we will shortly experience the hottest temps ever – we know that isn’t true, only that it will be hotter than it has been more recently.
So why the hysteria?
6,000,000,000? I thought the Earth was 4.5 Billion years old?
The Word of God says the Earth was created on October 22, 4004 BC.
Well, Bishop Ussher’s understanding of the Word of God.
Back then, Ol’ JHVH-1 didn’t allow much time to shop for costumes at Party City or Spirit Hallowe’en!
🙂
A mere 40 years of satellite data versus a geologic record of at least 3,500,000,000 years. News flash, Diet Shrike, climate has not, is not, and never will be stable.
The issue is not about climate stability but our ability to perturb it.
You’re one of those cretins, it seems, who believe that if A causes B, then nothing else can cause B.
And you think we have control over all of it? You’re one of those cretins who thinks we need to go back to the stone age to stave off “disaster”.
Nope. I don’t think we have control of all of it. I do think that we’re responsible for most if not all observed climate change since the Industrial Revolution, and that to mitigate the effects requires us to be intelligent in our use of energy sources – more nuclear, for example, and less oil and coal – but that is very far from going back to the stone age.
I do think that we’re responsible for most if not all observed climate change since the Industrial Revolution
But please understand that you’ve now left the realm of “The Scientific Consensus” and have ceded your right to be talking for “The Scientific Community” rather than just pushing one politically favored, but not particularly likely, narrative,
viz:
to mitigate the effects requires us to be intelligent in our use of energy sources
Which, again, is in fact (and I know you would never know this from the media coverage), far outside of “The Scientific Consensus,” which stops at “(partially) human caused (regardless of source).”
We have a name, actually, for the fallacy of using one set of words in one context in order to pretend that you’ve validated a different set of words in a different argument in a different context: a special case of equivocation popularly known as “Motte and Bailey.”
“…only that warming would occur owing to human activity…”
Which matters only to a certain religious viewpoint.
the AGW hypothesis was not that temperatures would be unprecedented, only that warming would occur owing to human activity
This is inaccurate. If it were merely a prediction of non-catastrophic warming, why do we need the trillions in funding to prevent global disaster?
Climate denialists deny that warming is occurring.
This is an outright lie.
“Denialist” refers to anyone who disagrees that warming is catastrophic and that the solution to catastrophic anthropogenic climate change is government spending. If you don’t believe me, ask Bjorn Lomborg or Michael Shellenberger, neither of whom dispute “The Scientific Consensus” but both of whom have been smeared as “deniers” purely because of their policy positions.
This is inaccurate. If it were merely a prediction of non-catastrophic warming, why do we need the trillions in funding to prevent global disaster?
You’re misrepresenting the issue and what I said by confusing “unprecedented” and “catastrophic”. What I said was not, hence, inaccurate.
A rise of say 5C is not remotely unprecedented, but may well be a disaster for humans and many other species.
From a risk management perspective, you don’t say that something is unlikely so do nothing – the attitude of the lukewarm frogs here on the right, nor do you say, it’s unlikely but if it happens it’s so terrible that no amount of money is too great to spend now, the attitude of left-wing catastrophists that I do not share. What you do ask is how can you reduce the risk as efficiently and effectively as possible, and what you also do not say is that you don’t like the people who point to the risk, so it can’t be happening, which appears to the general attitude on the right here.
You’re misrepresenting the issue
Actually what I’m doing is pointing out that you are misrepresenting “the issue” by dualizing it and then straw-manning both sides.
There is no “The AGW Hypothesis.”
There are climate scientists who think the world is warming catastrophically fast. There are climate scientists who think the world is warming, but not catastrophically fast. There are climate scientists who think warming by itself is a negative, while there are those who only think a rapid pace of warming would be bad.
There are climate scientists who think the human causes of warming have primarily to do with deforestation. There are those who think it’s an aggregate of the urban heat-island effect. There are those who think it’s greenhouse gasses, but who think methane is far more key than CO2. And there are those who think it’s CO2.
One of these narratives is the one that is most politically useful. The others not so much.
To the extent that there is “an AGW argument” it’s the one that’s rammed down everyone’s throats by the media, the education system, and Democrats, and the one that you happen to be defending here, which is “I do think that we’re responsible for most if not all observed climate change since the Industrial Revolution, and that to mitigate the effects requires us to be intelligent in our use of energy sources.”
But again, this is very far from being “scientific consensus” even among climate scientists. Why present it as if it is?
And then the other side you even more aggressively strawman as
Climate denialists deny that warming is occurring.
Which is ridiculous. Almost no one argues this. Why mischaracterize this so egregiously? And why did you ignore the entire last paragraph of my post?
The trucking company Yellow Corporation has filed for bankruptcy, with plans to lay off 30,000 employees—and default on a $700 million pandemic aid loan.
I guess they hit a bridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw
Color is the most important thing.
Trans-peaceful or cis-violent?
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/08/08/the-trans-movement-is-becoming-more-violent/
The very fact that there is now a credible threat of violence against Joanna Cherry’s Edinburgh appearance amply demonstrates the dark turn that has been taken by trans activism. There was a time when trans activists would have been satisfied with merely silencing and shaming women for having the temerity to talk about their rights. Those days are long gone.
Seasoned feminists like Maria MacLachlan, who was assaulted by a trans activist at Speakers Corner in 2017, will tell you that threatened or actual violence has long loomed over gender-critical events. But these incidents are clearly becoming increasingly regular and severe.
So what’s driving all this? It may have something to do with the fact that, over the past year or so, trans activists have suffered a succession of defeats.
The downside is that these defeats for the trans movement only seem to have ratcheted up the danger women face. Like a wounded animal, the trans lobby is most dangerous when it is cornered. Tragically, until its full defeat, and maybe for some time thereafter, knife arches and metal-detecting wands could well be a fixture at events where women meet to discuss their rights.
“So what’s driving all this? It may have something to do with the fact that, over the past year or so, trans activists have suffered a succession of defeats.”
It may also correlate with more profound psychosis driven by political manipulation, and destructive medical intervention.
Yes. These people are seriously mentally ill to start with. Many of them would have become violent even without trans ideology in their mix.
“So what’s driving all this? It may have something to do with the fact that, over the past year or so, trans activists have suffered a succession of defeats.”
It doesn’t help that their response to these sorts of things is “You’re literally killing us!” Of course the crazier of the crazies are going to respond in (what they believe to be) self defense.
Parents of 12 year old drama queens sigh.
Not to mention testosterone.
Testosterone injections absolutely pack a psychoactive wallop.
Much like abortion clinic bombers who sincerely believe that babies are being murdered there.
The U.S. average all blends retail price of gasoline is almost back up to $4 for the first time in ten months, Moody’s just downgraded the credit of a slew of regional banks, and is warning that some big ones like US Bancorp and Truist are on downgrade watch as well.
Everything is really going great in Sleepy Joe Biden’s America. Are we rapidly approaching the point where we have to have another round of massive bailouts for our “too big to fail” financial system?
Where is Rig Count boy?
He was busy stinking it up in the DeSantis thread by Boehm.
According to turd the liar, we’re all swimming in prosperity.
Mark August 22 on your calendar, as BRICS discusses getting of the dollar:
https://fortune.com/2023/06/25/dollar-reserve-currency-brics-brazil-russia-india-china-south-africa/
While also discussing adding more nations:
https://www.reuters.com/world/key-facts-about-brics-2023-summit-2023-08-07/
I foresee an amusing problem in the construction of the basket. If the basket is weighted by GDP, the renminbi will be a huge component of it – and it’s seldom a good idea for one component of a basket or index to have too large a weight. Alternatively, they just do an equal weight which might piss off the Chinese.
And Prof Papa rightly points out the convergence requirement that allowed the Euro to be launched. IT’s hard to see how BRICS could establish convergence criteria that could come close to anything resemble harmony.
BTW what do you think the US should do about BRICS and de-dollarisation?
Directly? Nothing.
Indirectly, stop printing and spending billions of dollars we don’t have, cut regulations significantly and stop destabilizing foreign countries with our military and CIA.
Personally, I’ve got a years supply of flour, beans, rice, dehydrated fruit, etc. I recommend everyone else do the same.
Bloody hell – I largely agree with you.
Wonder if their issues involve commercial real estate holdings.
That is going to turn very ugly soon.
900 trafficked kids rescued at southern border. “Moral panic”, indeed, ENB.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/article_09500ea2-3585-11ee-ad05-d350ec66cf8c.html
Through Texas’ border security mission Operation Lone Star, Texas DPS troopers have rescued over 900 children being smuggled into and through Texas from Mexico by human traffickers, DPS Lt. Chris Olivarez recently announced.
Among them was a recent rescue in Maverick County in Eagle Pass, Texas, where troopers found a five-year-old Honduran girl who’d been smuggled into Texas by three adult women who weren’t related to her. The women found the girl in Piedras Negras, Mexico, and then brought her with them as they crossed illegally into Texas between the ports of entry.
Authorities said she was being brought to reunite with her mother; however, her mother had died three days prior. The girl told troopers her father was still in Honduras. She was turned over to Border Patrol.
DPS troopers are also arresting criminals, including sex offenders and those in possession of child pornography. A DPS brush team recently helped arrest a Mexican national and coyote who was illegally in the U.S. after he guided four people across the Rio Grande River into Texas. On the coyote’s phone were pictures and video of child pornography. The Texas Rangers took over the case, and the Mexican national was charged with possession or promotion of child pornography.
It’s Not Real
It’s Conservative Disinfo
It’s Happening But Not Very Often
It Happening And It’s A Good Thing
This is Old News
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There does seem to be some legitimate reason for concern, but I still think the term “human trafficking” is used to deliberately conflate at least two very different things in people’s minds. I think that when most people think of human trafficking, they think of sex slavery and other coercive situations. But “human trafficking” also includes consensual arrangements to help people illegally immigrate. Both are legitimate things to be concerned about, but a little more precision and nuance in the terms would help a lot to give a more accurate picture of what is going on.
It also conflates something that’s happening a lot (as ITL demonstrated) with American kids being snatched up and sold into various kinds of bondage, which just isn’t happening as much as they’re leading us to believe.
Exactly. I touched on it several times yesterday with articles I found that countered ENB’s assertions. It’s not typically documented US kids being snatched in white vans, it’s the undocumented people who come here, crossing the border illegally. They disappear into places like Epstein’s island. They pay a coyote for what they think is transit to a better life and wind up in slavery. This is the kind of crap that people like Fiona push for with their open borders bullshit, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
That’s not really an open borders problem, but a porous borders problem. If we had truly open borders, no one would need to hire a coyote unless they were trying to do something illegal like smuggling sex slaves.
Of course, if we had truly open borders, our social order and prosperity would soon be destroyed by a tidal wave of immigrants from every shithole in the world, so the problem would be self-limiting.
It’s not “looting”, it’s just “cutting it”.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_efbca4e0-354e-11ee-acb5-73765bee114b.html
Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson downplayed the recent arrests of teenagers in Chicago, claiming that those individuals were merely “cutting it,” which has led to pushback from police.
“You all know I’ve been a public school teacher, and sometimes you have a number of students who want to find spaces where they can cut up,” Johnson said. “You have to Google that. It’s like Black terminology for doing things potentially harmful to someone else or themselves.”
“The teen takeover on Roosevelt Road was not a teen takeover. It was looting. It was mob action,” Catanzara said. “It is in the ordinance, Mr. Mayor. Look it up.”
“It’s important that we speak of these dynamics in the appropriate way. This is not to obfuscate what has actually taken place, but we have to be very careful when we use language to describe certain behavior,” Johnson said. “To refer to children as baby Al Capone is not appropriate.”
“No one has called them mini Capones, but they certainly, in many cases, have the terrorizing effect that Al Capone had 100 years ago with these teen takeovers where they think they can do whatever they want with no repercussions, no parental supervision and no accountability,” Catanzara said. “Especially from the mayor’s office.”
“You’re proving yourself to be exactly who we were afraid you were going to be,” Catanzara said of Johnson. “You are taking CTU lead and making excuses for bad behavior like they have done for many years now in the school system, not giving quality education, endotoring kids and making them victims where they think they are entitled to behave any way they want.”
Chicago is so fucked.
“You all know I’ve been a public school teacher, and sometimes you have a number of students who want to find spaces where they can cut up,” Johnson said. “You have to Google that. It’s like Black terminology for doing things potentially harmful to someone else or themselves.”
Black Lies Matter
He only taught for four years and his pension benefits are over a million dollars.
““You have to Google that. It’s like Black terminology for doing things potentially harmful to someone else or themselves.””
My grandma would call that “horsing around” and my mom would call that “playing grab ass.”
Did a lot of property destruction and assault as a kid, did you?
They replaced Beetlejuice with a Sleestak.
I bet their problems are Republicans.
Chicago is so fucked.
Build the wall.
Nancy shrieks hyperbole.
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/nancy-pelosi-declares-america-will-cease-exist-if-trump-becomes-president-again
In the comments to New York magazine, Pelosi stated “The indictments against the president are exquisite,” adding “They’re beautiful and intricate, and they probably have a better chance of conviction than anything that I would come up with.”
When asked about the possibility of another Trump presidency, Pelosi commanded the reporter “Don’t even think of that.”
“Don’t think of the world being on fire,” she continued, adding “It cannot happen, or we will not be the United States of America.”
Pelosi made the comments after Trump labelled her a “wicked witch” and a “demented psycho” who will reside in hell when she dies.
So, does Nancy really believe her bullshit or is it just propaganda for her proletariat?
“When asked about the possibility of another Trump presidency, Pelosi commanded the reporter “Don’t even think of that.””
She then pointed to her security detail and then at the reporter while shouting “Guards! Seize him!”
“They’re beautiful and intricate, and they probably have a better chance of conviction than anything that I would come up with.”
I don’t know. January 6 was pretty clever.
They went too far in Ohio and it will fail big time. 5% of signatures from 100% of all counties is a bridge too far. I suppose some kind of sliding scale might work; x signatures needs 60% to pass. More signatures means smaller percent needed but not less than 50% + 1.
Kat Rosenfield looks at recent controversies over books and suggests the popular narrative surrounding this surge of “book bans” is wrong.
Go fuck yourselves Reason. If the “left have their own, no less ideology-driven ways of restricting access to books” that’s gone unreported until now it’s because you, numerous times and despite numerous commentors repeatedly raising issues with your blatantly inaccurate one-sidedness, propagated the “Conservatives are *BANNNNNNNNNNNN*ing books!!!!!!1!!” narrative.
With their “sensitivity readers” implanted at the publishing houses, the left can even prevent books they don’t like from being written.
Tax the shit out of them!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-democrats-demand-1000-tax-semiautomatic-rifles
Democrats in Congress reintroduced legislation imposing a 1,000% excise tax on the sale of “large capacity ammunition feeding devices and semiautomatic assault weapons.”
US Rep. Don “Doug” Beyer, a Democrat from Virginia, and 24 other House Democrats introduced the bill on Friday. A similar bill was introduced by Beyer last year that would, of course, only mean wealthy elites and drug dealers could afford semiautomatic rifles (many of which are hunting rifles) while punishing middle and working-poor Americans.
Under the proposed rule, semiautomatic rifles could cost more than $20,000, a tax Beyer has argued would “curb the epidemic of gun violence.”
A recent ATF report states, “Pistols represented nearly 70% of the crime guns traced between 2017 and 2021.” This is an inconvenient fact that Democrats would prefer to keep a secret.
Just remember, President Biden has told reporters that “the idea we still allow semiautomatic weapons to be purchased is sick. It’s just sick. It has no, no social redeeming value. Zero. None.” Tell that to anyone who has used a semiauto to defend themselves, or others, from violent criminals in failed progressive metro areas that do not enforce law and order.
It will die in committee.
Are Republicans tiring of attacks on “wokeness”?
Alt:
Now that numerous nameplate brands have been reduced to radioactive waste because of unworkable wokeness and signalling initiatives have Republicans finally stopped pouncing?
gotta believe the numbers state enough (D) was terrified by that dude rolling around in the bathtub w/his Bud Light to stop purchasing it too
Uh oh, they’re leaving the plantation.
https://nypost.com/2023/08/07/out-of-touch-progressives-are-driving-nonwhite-voters-out-of-the-dem-party/
The latest New York Times/Siena College poll has made an impact and underscored the Democrats’ vulnerabilities on many fronts.
The poll found former President Donald Trump and President Biden tied in a 2024 trial heat 43%-43%, with 16% saying they are undecided, would vote for another candidate or would not vote at all.
There are many striking demographic patterns in this result but one of the most striking has been little talked about: Biden’s weakness among nonwhite working-class (noncollege-educated) voters.
Biden leads Trump by a mere 16 points among this demographic. This compares to his lead over Trump of 48 points in 2020. And even that lead was a big drop-off from former President Barack Obama’s 67-point advantage in 2012.
Why is this happening?
Questions from the survey are below.
In the SCAL/NORC survey, by 61% to 39%, moderate-to-conservative nonwhite working-class voters (70% of whom are moderate, not conservative) chose the latter view, that racism comes from individuals, not society.
Is racism “built into our society, including into its policies and institutions,” as held by current Democratic Party orthodoxy, or does racism “come from individuals who hold racist views, not from our society and institutions?”
In stark contrast, the comparatively tiny group of nonwhite college-graduate liberals favored the structural racism position by 78% to 20%.
White college graduate liberals were even more lopsided at 82% to 18%.
Voters were offered a choice between “we need to reallocate funding from police departments to social services” and “we need to fully fund the budget for police departments.”
Nonwhite moderate-to-conservative working-class voters supported full police department funding by 63% to 36%.
But nonwhite college-grad liberals favored moving police department funding to social services by 69% to 30% and white college grad liberals the same by a whopping 76% to 22%.
Should “transgender athletes . . . be able to play on sports teams that match their current gender identity” or should they “only be allowed to play on sports teams that match their birth gender?”
By a staggering 70% to 26%, moderate-to-conservative nonwhite working-class voters chose the second option, that sports team participation should be determined by birth gender, directly contradicting current Democratic Party doctrine.
But nonwhite and white college grad liberals are exactly the reverse, endorsing the Democrats’ gender identity stance by 40 points each.
Almost two-thirds (64%) of moderate-to-conservative nonwhite working-class voters believe Biden has accomplished not that much or little or nothing during his time in office.
But 65% of nonwhite college grad liberals disagree, saying Biden has accomplished a great deal or a good amount. White college grad liberals are even happier, with 76% giving Biden two thumbs up.
Democrats should think very carefully if they can afford an image and policy commitments that are so unattractive to so many nonwhite working-class voters.
In 2020, very few Democrats thought their support against the hated and presumably toxic Trump could possibly slip among nonwhite working-class voters. But it did. I wouldn’t be so sure it couldn’t happen again.
“Biden’s weakness among nonwhite working-class (noncollege-educated) voters.”
Hmm, I wonder why the enlightened establishment still pushes “college for all”, and wants to make higher ed free.
The electoral map for 2024 comes down to just a few states, doesn’t it? = AZ, MI, WI, GA, PA. I don’t think 2024 is a lock for Team D.
The electoral map for 2024 comes down to fortification in Maricopa County, Detroit and Ann Arbor, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Philly/Pittsburgh.
Actually, it’s pronounced “mill-e-wah-que” which is Algonquin for “the good land.”
How were the polls around Labor Day, 2020?
Let’s all make-believe a fantasy! That will solve our problems!
“Indigenous leader inspires an Amazon city to grant personhood to an endangered river”
[…]
“To protect themselves, the Wari’ people are resorting to a new strategy: the white man’s law. In June, the municipality of Guajara-Mirim passed a groundbreaking law proposed by an Indigenous councilman that designates the Komi Memem and its tributaries as living entities with rights, ranging from maintaining their natural flow to having the forest around them protected….”
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/indigenous-leader-inspires-amazon-city-grant-personhood-endangered-102090392
Perhaps they should try that white-man’s process called ‘logic’.
Meh. I can’t wait for the push by American progressives to give the vote to cats.
Also, did they ask the Wari’ people about abortion?
Of course, the patriarchy would adopt the white MAN’s law and refuse to grant personhood to the pre-existing mounds that the river carved its way between. Otherwise, they’d have to acknowledge that the resulting fertile delta was unwanted and recognize the continent’s inherent right to abort the whole thing.
Good point. The river has been oppressing the land for millennia. Where are the reparations?
“taxpayers are about to take a bath on Yellow.”
Better than taking a bath in yellow.
Sqrlsy could not be reached for comment.
That wouldn’t be Swift.
Thank the Teamsters, too.
If this had happened per a Democratic Senator’s request to a Democratic Treasury Sec, JesseAZ, MoLa and a few others would be screaming. As it is, crickets. Steadfast avoidance of anything that might lead to criticism of Team R, just as they steadfastly avoid any thread that might lead to criticism of the police.
Do you have an example you can cite for your bald assertions?
I mean everyone you cited, including me, has talked against the GOPe and government spending constantly. From Moran to McConnel. So your assertion is false as usual.
You’ll rail against it in general, but specific criticisms, no.
Evidence? Look at the thread on Yellow, and this thread. Where’s your ourrage
As far as cops go – again, look at every thread about misbehaving cops. You and MoLa and one or two others are not to be seen.
You have no problem when it comes to generalities – you’re happy complaining about statists, for example. But when it comes to specifics like abuse of the power of the state – for abusive cops is precisely the most immediate abuse of the power of the state – you say nothing. Funny that.
Obnoxiously arrogant lying piece of shit has standards for outrage and YOU DIDN”T MEET THEM!!!!
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitpile.
approved for a $700 million loan, and in exchange, the government took a 29.6 percent stake in the company.
“10% for the Fat Orange Guy”.
I know you really wanted him to be a dictator, but Trump was not the federal government, so your post is inaccurate AND retarded.
Swing and a miss, demshill.
Well, turd is a liar, but he’s an abysmally stupid piece of shit besides.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Kat Rosenfield looks at recent controversies over books and suggests the popular narrative surrounding this surge of “book bans” is wrong.
Now do Abigail Shrier
Leave the kids alone. That’s all you had to do.
‘I Literally Look Like Minnie Mouse!’: Disney Partners With Crossdressing TikTok Star to Push Girls’ Apparel
Gender politics aside, how good a marketing campaign is, “Dress like Minnie, it’s what all the teen boys are doing!”, when at least 90% of your target audience is pre-teen girls.
Campaigning to/for/with a group that is 0.3% of the population is just horrible business. It can barely classify as a niche market.
And just for the record, “you are dressed like a tranny” is and will always be a scathing criticism that will send a girl in paroxysms of tears.
One of the only subjects were Republicans out-do Democrats in wanting the government to manage everyone’s personal life.
So sad; thank goodness it’s not a majority of Republicans … yet.
Are Republicans tiring of attacks on “wokeness”?
I sure hope not. They are the only group out there pushing back on the woke insanity.
GERMANY: Sex Education Group Recommends Daycares Create “Sexual Games” and Nude “Exploration Rooms”
Remember. This is the same country that deliberately placed foster children in the homes of pedophiles to test the theory that pedophiles would make good foster fathers.
“Remember. This is the same country…”
…that did some other questionable things.
…that did some other questionable things.
Like Scheisse porn.
Sauerkraut?
Huh. Who had Brave New World as their bet for dystopian fiction most likely to come true?
I don’t remember that part.
I’m still pulling for Hunger Games.
There’s a scene where a child is castigated for not taking the right attitude about free and open sex.
there’s several scenes that touch on.
Sexualization of children is a major theme off the brave new world regime.
civilization is sterilization.
I’ve been saying for about a year or so now. Brave New World with a touch of 1984 and Animal Farm. Personally, I’d rather have The Hunger Games (through the end of the third novel).
Are Republicans tiring of attacks on “wokeness”?
This sounds like the NYT indulging in some wishful thinking and trying to speak their desires into reality more than anything else. The left is going hard into the paint right now to try and get the right’s attention off the culture war so they can maintain their monopolies in those arenas, and get them re-focused on the 1990s-2000s gentlemen’s agreement with the Kemp Republicans to only focus on fiscal-related issues.
On a related note, one of the shitlib shills that writes for one of my local online DNC shill rags, the Colorado Sun, had this little piece come out recently:
A letter to Donald Trump supporters. We’re not really enemies.
As Americans, we’re on the same team. Any leader encouraging us to hate each other is the real enemy.
Trish Zornio
3:05 AM MDT on Aug 7, 2023
Dear Trump supporters,
This letter is long overdue. As fellow Americans, we’ve been acting like enemies instead of neighbors for far too long. I want us to change that.
Learning to listen and understand each other won’t be easy, especially after so many years of shouting back and forth and calling each other names. Like in a marriage gone awry, there are deep feelings of hurt on both sides. We’ve dug in our heels so far that sometimes it feels impossible to find a way out of this mess.
This is a by-the-book employment of the Maoist Unity-Criticism-Unity strategy. Leftism’s biggest weakness is that it relies on mass participation to be successful. Even laughably small minorities refusing to go along with their program can completely fuck up their agenda–see the 17% of people refusing to get the Fauci Ouchie that ultimately resulted in the end of efforts to put in vaccine passports and vaccine mandates.
So what these people try to do is appeal to people’s sense of belonging with glittering generalities–“You don’t really want to be shut out, do you? Isn’t it so much better when we find common ground and try to get along?” But that’s the rub–they have no intention of actually finding “common ground.” They’re simply trying to get you to accept their ideology at face value while they shift the Overton Window further left. At best, they’ll make surface-level concessions that they can easily attack later on, which really isn’t a compromise at all. Often they don’t even go that far and just whine that the right needs to accept their point of view, while never actually conceding that they need to do the same.
“see the 17% of people refusing to get the Fauci Ouchie that ultimately resulted in the end of efforts to put in vaccine passports and vaccine mandates.”
You’re welcome.
word.
Was it really only 17%? Fuuuck.
Before I was convinced that taking the shots would not be a net benefit to me, I had already decided not to simply to maintain the ability to refuse to comply with any mandates.
Seriously. 17%. That’s it.
It’s easy to see that number and think, “Jesus, we really are a bunch of sheep,” but look at what that 17% stubbornly holding out ended up halting, at least for now.
Now imagine even more people pushing back. The left might be short-sighted and venal, but they aren’t stupid, and they know damn well any type of mass resistance against their agenda means it gets stopped in its tracks. That’s why we’re seeing panicky articles like this.
I am optimistic that a lot more people would push back if a similar situation arises again. I think a lot of people have figured out that they were lied to and unreasonably pressured into taking it. They absolutely lied about both safety and effectiveness and more and more people are seeing that.
>>I am optimistic that a lot more people would push back if a similar situation arises again.
#metoo
Let’s continue:
But as tempting as divorce might sound at times, deep down we both know that it’s best for everyone if we stick together. So I propose that we begin the process of finding common ground. If nothing else, it’s what’s best for our children and the future of this country. Besides, aren’t you tired of feeling angry and slighted all the time? I know I am.
Emphasis mine. See the appeal to unity there? Unity-criticism-unity means that appeals to unity are put forth, followed by criticism of the “contradictions” until a new socialist/communist unity emerges. We see the second part next:
It’s probably best to start with the elephant in the room: Donald J. Trump. No doubt, we both have strong feelings about this person. You revere him. I can’t stand him. But going tit-for-tat on what he has or hasn’t done won’t help us to come together. Instead, let’s do our best to set aside our defenses and focus on why we feel so strongly either way. It’s the marriage counseling Americans so desperately need.
I’ll go first.
What follows is an exhaustive list of solipsistic complaints that somehow never bothers to even acknowledge that her political enemies might actually have a legitimate reason to resist her.
“For my part”
“I also worry”
“make me scared”
“These are the kinds of things I think about.”
“In dehumanizing me”
Me me me me me. I I I I I. If you read the article, note how every issue is framed in terms of how SHE views the problem, and the efforts to jawbone those who don’t agree into conceding to her specific neuroses.
And multiple attempts to further appeal to unity, bolstered by hilariously blatant motte and bailey arguments:
“Wouldn’t your life be better without violence and vitriol, too?”
“Yes, our fears and worries might seem different, but they’re also kind of the same.”
“As fellow Americans, our enemies should not be each other. Our enemies are those who seek to divide us for personal gain. ”
“Neighbor to neighbor, Trump is not our friend. We know this because real friends wouldn’t encourage us to hate each other.”
“Mending our differences won’t be easy, but don’t you agree it’s worth a try? What do we stand to gain but pain by continuing this battle? How long do we want to live like this? I understand we don’t have to be besties, but wouldn’t it be far nicer to grab a drink as friends and not foes?”
Note that, at no point in the article, does she ever actually concede that her opponents might have legitimate reasons for their positions, or that her side might be just as culpable for the political polarization that exists now. The rather lame attempt to generalize “common enemies”–“foreign entities, leaders of billion-dollar corporations and leaders of political parties with agendas that encourage us to fight for them.”–is deliberately vague into trying to get her opponents to redirect their engagement against her side against those SHE wants to be attacked.
TL;DR–The left is terrified precisely because they absolutely do not want political opponents who won’t roll over and play dead when they shriek “-ist!” or “-phobe!” at them. The mere fact that bog-standard AFWLs like Zornio are trying this Maoist persuasion strategy is specifically because she knows at an instinctive level that even a minority of right-wingers not cooperating with her side’s agenda can slow it down and even bring it grinding to a screeching halt.
“Note that, at no point in the article, does she ever actually concede that her opponents might have legitimate reasons for their positions, or that her side might be just as culpable for the political polarization that exists now.”
I’ve noticed this with several of the usual suspects here.
One of their more blatant shibboleths is the following: “I’m an independent, and I certainly have a problem with both parties, but the Republicans are just so awful in so many respects.” The supposed “problems” they supposedly have with the left are pointedly left unidentified. They’re not “independents,” they’re Democrats who aren’t registered as such because they don’t want to get inundated with party mailings. Seriously, the Tea Party faction was more critical of the GOP than these self-styled “independents” ever were of the Democrats.
It’s basically the same smirking propaganda that Jon Stewart employed, which is why you see it pop up so often in Gen-X and Millennial liberals. “Both parties suck, but Republicans, amirite?”
The awfulness of the GOP is often shown here, but GOP supporters don’t accept that – or on occasion regard that awfulness as a positive..
Independent: these are the problems with the GOP…
GOP supporter: I don’t agree with you, so you’re not a true independent. Also, Democrats think these are problems as well, so really you’re a Democrat
J6 is a good Rorshach test of this, fwiw.
The awfulness of the GOP is often shown here, but GOP supporters don’t accept that – or on occasion regard that awfulness as a positive..
The whole reason most of the neocons got booted from the GOP’s party perches was specifically because of the complaints that GOP supporters had against them.
–Bowed to the Chamber of Commerce on immigration
–Bailed out the banks with TARP
–Promoted overseas military adventures and kept fucking things up
–Kept promising to shrink government and grew it instead
–Completely surrendered the nation’s cultural institutions to the left
–Kept telling the base “we need to figure out a way to find common ground” while the Democrats kept gleefully pushing the Overton Window
Yeah, there was plenty for them to criticize, and they certainly did so. That they weren’t engaged in some full-blown dialectic assumes the Jon Stewart premise that only GOP voters should aggressively criticize their own party.
Perhaps you should blame Nixon – as much of this discontent arises out of people joining the GOP on grounds that had little to do with economic policy and so when they had two generations of being screwed by their own party, and not wishing to take responsibility for that inevitability, they looked for the next shiny thing.
Indulging in this bit of misdirection after your assertion has been adequately refuted isn’t making your case any better.
You’re not making the connection. All the things that the GOP supporters you say complained of were pretty much in place, or unsurprising when derived from, the GOP elites of the early 70s. and it took them two generations to get pissed off with it.
You’re not making the connection.
Your connection isn’t anything other than a red herring. You made an assertion, it got debunked, and now you’re trying to re-direct.
And it didn’t take “two generations” for GOP voters to get pissed off back then, either. Reagan’s popularity, which was built from Goldwater’s influence and the rise of western GOP politicians, was a populist reaction to the dominance of the party’s northeastern elite.
This argument has been going on for well nearly 80 years now, ever since Dewey choked his election campaign against Truman. The Tea Party and Trump’s ascendancy is simply the latest iteration. All of which refutes your assertion that GOP voters don’t criticize their party very often–or, at least, not enough to your liking on the issues YOU want them to criticize the party for.
What’s really off-putting about Zornio’s piece here isn’t just the obvious ages-old commie propaganda techniques she employs, but also the presumptuous, condescending tone of the whole thing, which is a standard feature of most of the Op-Eds the Sun publishes.
Do you remember the death of Diane Whipple?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diane_Whipple The perps were a married couple of lawyers ,Robert Noel and Marjorie Knoller, who represented a few Aryan brotherhood convicts. The couple adopted one of them. They were taking care of the dogs of one of the prisoners when the attack and death occurred. IIRC Noel and Knoller also made porn videos with some of the cons and I think the dogs were also involved. When they were hauled off one of them said “At least we’re not Republicans.” They could remake “The Aristocrats” with comedians admitting to a long list of disgusting things they do ending with the punchline, “At least we’re not Republicans.”
From their perpspective, there’s hardly a dime’s worth of difference. They literally believe that Republicans are either filthy rich billionaires or dirt-poor GED holders. And that’s mainly because their side was so successful in taking over middle class cultural institutions, just like Gramsci and Marcuse said they should.
the presumptuous, condescending tone of the whole thing
Condescension is one of the modern progressive left’s main defining features. I don’t think they’re capable of not coming off as presumptuous, condescending moral scolds.
Don’t cry for Megan Rapinoe
even more delicious coming from Piers Morgan
“Has there ever been a more disingenuous statement from this President other than his now demonstrably untrue insistence he never helped his son Hunter with his corrupt business dealings?”
How long before certain posters start shitting on Morgan because he won’t tow the Biden Regime line?
Issue 1 is nothing more than an attempt for Ohio Republicans to ensure power for decades. After illegally gerrymandering themselves in power they want to make sure no one can question them again.
This isn’t even mentioning that the yes campaign is almost singlehandedly being bankrolled by an Illinois billionaire (out of state interests anyone?) or that Larose, the secretary of state, himself has illegally campaigned for it too. They’re not even pretending that it’s anything but a brazen grab of power that the citizens won’t ever get back.
Now do California.
Or Illinois and Pennsylvania.
We can’t have a Republican supermajority in a state… that would spell the end of humanity! It’ll be like World War Z, poor people and drug addicts all over the streets because of all that prohibition!
Yes, that’s exactly what raspberries said. You didn’t, for instance, leave the part about gerrymandering out when doing your recap.
Gerrymandering, like Illinois has? Where the Democrats made it so that they have no competition during elections and forced seated Republicans to duke it out in the primaries?
Also said if citizens have an issue with the government, those suits can ONLY be heard in 2 counties in the state.
Does Ohio have a supermajority of Republicans?
Now tell us again who wrote Roe v Wade?
imagine being a liberal and pretending to worry about gerrymandering lol
Imagine you supporting gerrymandering with no pretending whatsoever.
Imagine where I live the districts just got redrawn to cause city psycho’s to overwhelm rural voters…. From my small point of view the only one’s gerrymandering around here are Democrats.
Gerrymandering is exactly what this is about. The decision to require 60% for amendments might be credibly – sleazy but credible – about abortion if that was the only element of Issue 1.
But the other two elements – requiring signatures from 5% in every county and no ‘cure period’ for petition signatures is designed SOLELY to eliminate future petitions from ever getting on the ballot unless they are initiated by the legislature.
Gerrymandering reform is precisely what was called ‘Issue 1’ in 2018. But the legislature said screw that and gerrymandered anyway. The Ohio Supreme Court declared that unconstitutional – and the legislature said screw that we’re gerrymandering anyway. The USSC has said they won’t hear political gerrymandering cases. And that old Issue 1 (which was legislature initiated) allowed for gerrymandered maps to exist for two elections – before then requiring approval again from the now-gerrymandered legislature.
The only way redistricting can be taken out of the hands of the legislature is via a citizens petition to amend their constitution. Which can only occur in a citizens petition in 2024. And it is interesting how Ohio R’s are rationalizing that – Another has been that it signals trust in elected officials to safeguard citizen interests, rather than letting a random majority of voters decide what’s best.
James Madison defined a ‘republican form of government’ as [W]e may define a republic to be, or at least may bestow that name on, a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure, for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is ESSENTIAL to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion, or a favored class of it
That is opposing gerrymandering.
Awww, poor raspy is salty again.
Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair! Haha.
EXACTLY; Many seem to forget the Pro-Life movement was actually founded by the Left’s Catholic enterprise. The left has always been the roots of totalitarianism they just know how to project everything they are onto anyone else in sight.
And it’s now been co-opted by the right. There are authoritarians at both ends (or is that, boaf endz?) of the spectrum.
I honestly think it’s weird what a partisan issue abortion has become. It really seems like an issue that shouldn’t be so tightly tied to political ideologies since it ultimately comes down to some very basic assumptions about morality and hierarchy of rights.
the Left’s Catholic enterprise.
Stalin didn’t even know how many divisions the Pope has. So someone there is going rogue.
“even…John Kasich”
lol hadn’t even gotten to the Kasich cite …
>>If Issue 1 passes …
the entire second paragraph seems perfectly fine for people to vote on what’s the beef?
>>The Free Press explores Anthony Fauci’s behind-the-scenes machinations to control the narrative about COVID-19’s origins.
has anyone checked on the people @Free Press today?
has anyone checked on the people @Free Press today?
They didn’t kill themselves (just getting it out of the way).
>>Texas … women with medically complicated pregnancies were exempt from the state’s bans on abortion.
treating medically complicated pregnancies doesn’t fall under abortion.
How do you figure that?
Abortion is sometimes done as part of treating a medically-complicated pregnancy. You are denying it is so?
same word does not mean all procedures same. keep on obfuscating.
I didn’t obfuscate in any way. I clearly stated my objection to your statement, “treating medically complicated pregnancies doesn’t fall under abortion.”
By the way, have you given up using complete sentences?
I don’t play “one word means everything” when it doesn’t … that’s Emma’s game today see the other thread
When, because of a medical complication, they remove the baby from the mother’s womb and kill it, that is called an “abortion” in plain English. What do you call it?
Except, Laursen, that’s not what happens. If they’re able to take the baby from the womb, it’s probably viable, even with an incubator. What really threatens the life of the mother is an ectopic pregnancy, where the fertilized egg settles into the wall of the Fallopian tube. Ending an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion. It’s ending a pregnancy that was never viable to begin with.
“from the mother’s womb”
Ectopic pregnancies don’t occur in the womb, and abortion isn’t the procedure used to fix the problem.
Abortion isn’t the remedy for pre-eclampsia either. Delivery by induction of labor or Caesarean section is, because the fetus is always viable by the time it occurs.
abortion is reproductive health care, thus everything about pregnancy is an abortion. See how liberal thinking works?
it’s awful. ghoulish.
>> climate scientist Zeke Hausfather
is there even one Contrarian among the Climate Scientists?
I think there are quite a few.
wake me when one of them says Zeke is an idiot.
• The Free Press explores Anthony Fauci’s behind-the-scenes machinations to control the narrative about COVID-19’s origins.
Only the biggest story of the century.
“at Reason we let others be the forefront …”
No posts since the obligatory daily “FloridaManBad” article at 11:10 EDT this morning. Must be a really slow news day…
I guess, if you have a poor memory.
the dead could not be reached for comment.
Does that include the dead from 9/11? The Iraq, Afghanistan, and Ukraine wars?
Those stories from this century seem pretty big.
do those added up compete with every death all the governments hung on covid?
Don’t know. If they do, and that is how we determine what the “biggest story” is, then the blame most likely lies foremost on the Chinese Army, who seem to be the ones who secretly conducted coronavirus research and botched containment measures.
• Are Republicans tiring of attacks on “wokeness”?
This is a laugh riot. Literally 100% of the people I follow who are um, “obsessed” by wokeness, you know college professors who lost their jobs, famous women in sports, academics reporting on the sterilization of gay kids etc., 100% of them are on the left.
Hey, Reason, when Brendan O’Neill does an article on Wokeness, is that a case of “Republicans Pouncing”?
Brendan O’Neil is a hack and a right-wing extremist! – you know who
<a href="https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/08/08/the-trans-movement-is-becoming-more-violent/"republicans pouncing on Wokeness.
Republicans pouncing on wokeness?
Boy, Republicans be pouncing all over the place at that right wing rag.
“The Free Press explores Anthony Fauci’s behind-the-scenes machinations to control the narrative about COVID-19’s origins”
that man should have been fired on the spot so many times. for me, the most blatant was the masks. saying first he did not think they would help, and then saying he OPENLY LIED because he was trying to control behavior to prevent a run on masks. there is of course the incompetence of not realizing the feds had a stockpile of masks for the hospitals….. but when the public face of anything tells you he is full of shit, he needs to go. the lab leak stuff is just another example of this kind of behavior. he openly lied and was easily caught in it repeatedly.
while i think the anti-vax, anti-mask, anti any personal responsibility crowd were a bunch of stupid ass-clowns…. i do have to grant them that having this piece of shit as the public face of healthcare made it completely understandable that people would have a hard time believing anything. not firing him made it hard to believe anyone was telling the truth, and “official” sources became suspect.
I think you misspelled “hanged” as “fired”.
if they’d fired him after the bathhouses thing there may be less clamor for the other …
Perhaps he meant fired out of a cannon?
It’s like I’ve heard it expresed: If we didn’t have Governments that fucking lie, plunder, and murder so damn much, we’d have a lot fewer Conspiracy-ologists.
🙂
My whole family voted Yes today.
1. I have no sympathy for baby killers
2. There’s nothing out of line about requiring a supermajority for Constitutional amendments. There are many points at state and local government when at least 2/3 majority is needed: Stopping a filibuster, overriding a veto, approving a constitutional amendment (75% of states). It makes sense that altering the state constitution should require broad consensus, not 50%+1.
Good luck with your gerrymandered legislature. Forever. You are a moron aren’t you.
“Libertarians”: FL lowering the threshold to legally kill unnamed individuals from 100% to 75% is practically murder.
Also “Libertarians”: OH raising the threshold to legally kill unnamed individuals from 51% to 60% is practically murder.
What is interesting about this Issue 1 in Ohio is how common this has become in the last year and a bit. Not re abortion. This has nothing to do with that. Abortion is just the rhetoric to get out the vote and stir up the rubes in Ohio in a no-turnout election in August. But R’s trying to eliminate future initiatives/referendums/etc from even appearing on future ballots.
Utah, South Dakota, Arkansas, Idaho, Florida, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Arizona, and now Ohio. That is a clear majority of all R-run states that even allow citizens initiatives re a constitutional amendment. Only Nebraska and Montana remain. The south only allows legislatively-referred anything on ballot and a few states only allow statute initiatives. All with different ‘topics’ – from marijuana to Medicaid – but all with the same means – get entirely rid of ballot initiatives by citizens if possible. Just in the last year or so.
It’s no surprise I guess. I increasingly vote against initiatives because they are clearly special-interest driven and force legislators into being stupid.
But to get rid of that check and balance from citizens ENTIRELY?
But to get rid of that check and balance from citizens ENTIRELY?
“Depending on the citizen, yup.” – Illinois
Edit: Really your stance, as framed, is pretty clearly “Is a tyranny of the majority good/bad if it’s a majority I dis/approve of?” arguably, by instantiation, just “Is a tyranny I dis/approve of bad/good?”
Is tyranny of the minority preferable?
BTW Issue 1 has apparently been defeated: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ohio-ballot-initiative-make-more-difficult-amend-state-constitution-fails
No. My stance is that:
a)checks and balances is always good and
b) the only way for citizens to check govt is via initiative because the branches will no longer check each other.
It is clear that R’s are on the dead wrong side of that. The only reason you don’t understand that is because you are an R in a D state that has citizens initiative. And you therefore take that check for granted.
The only reason you don’t understand that is because you are an R in a D state that has citizens initiative.
Again, for clarity and accuracy, I don’t “not understand” because I’m an R in a D state that has a citizens’ initiative, I’m a citizen in state where there’s no citizen’s initiative one way or the other, only initiatives that the Unions will allow. Again, the selectivity, and now your doubling down, suggests that you don’t actually care whether actual citizens can enact initiatives, you only care that your preferred right kinds of initiatives can be enacted.
You’re clearly demonstrating “Flatland” (or lack thereof) thinking: acting like your Left/Right, Red/Blue thinking applies to a blue sphere (or, conversely, the “NSEW” Nolan Chart applies to a straight line).
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