A Brief History of Single-Family Zoning
California recently enacted legislation that invalidates single-family zoning, as an effort to increase housing supply. Other alternatives would be wiser.

When zoning laws began to proliferate in the 1920s, they were a newly imposed restriction on what homeowners could do with their properties. In those days, most people lived in long-established communities in cities. Today, after 70 years of suburbanization following World War II, the large majority of homeowners bought their homes in suburbs built in response to market demand for single-family living. Local governments (typically county governments outside the main city) responded to the kind of housing the developers wanted to create to meet the growing single-family market demand.
In effect, postwar single-family zoning represented an agreement under which homebuyers accepted restrictions on other types of uses in their neighborhood in order to be protected from negative externalities that neighbors might create, without the protection of the covenant provided by single-family zoning.
To abolish single-family zoning is a violation of the contract between a municipality and its single-family homeowners. They selected the neighborhood and the house based on the protections offered by prevailing zoning.
California recently enacted legislation* that invalidates single-family zoning, as an effort to increase housing supply. History suggests other alternatives would be wiser and more respectful of property rights.
Support for state, let alone federal, preemption of local government policy violates basic principles of limited government: that any government action should be carried out at the lowest possible level of government. And there are alternatives to conventional zoning, developed by academics in the law and economics/public choice theory field.
The first major challenge came from University of Chicago's Bernard Siegan, with his pathbreaking 1972 book, Land Use Without Zoning. As editor of Reason magazine in those years, I commissioned a lengthy interview with Siegan that appeared in the April 1973 issue. His book focused on the absence of zoning in several Texas cities, especially Houston.
Single-family neighborhoods in Houston are able to form land use agreements that define what homeowners can and cannot do with their property. They are typically of 30 years' duration, at which time they can be extended, modified, or abolished via a supermajority vote. The Houston city government enforces these neighborhood agreements. Rather than micromanaging land use, the city government follows market trends to provide the infrastructure needed to accommodate the city's growth: streets, water and sewer, etc. Houston voters have at least three times voted against ballot measures that would have implemented conventional zoning.
The Houston approach provides for the kinds of ground rules most people are happy with. But it also permits change over time. At a land use conference in Houston in 1977, I was part of a tour through various neighborhoods, with our libertarian conference director pointing out neighborhoods that had once been single-family but whose covenants had been amended to account for economic changes that made properties along what had become a major street more valuable as commercial than as residential uses.
Houston never had zoning, so many of its new subdivisions came equipped with deed-based neighborhood associations. Established neighborhoods could organize and create a comparable set of land use covenants that a supermajority was willing to be governed by. But how could existing neighborhoods in zoned communities emulate this preferable approach?
That problem is addressed at book-length and in research papers by the late Robert Nelson of the School of Public Policy at the University of Maryland. His research topics included zoning and property rights, the failure of federal public lands policies, and (in my view) his magnum opus, Private Neighborhoods and the Transformation of Local Government. As I noted in my cover blurb for the book, "Robert Nelson has written two very powerful books in one. The first documents the amazing revolution in neighborhood governance that has gone almost unnoticed over the past 40 years. The second is a bold proposal for extending this revolution to inner cities and suburban fringes, where it could do even more good."
Nelson was the leading academic researcher on the growth of what he termed private neighborhood associations. His opening chapter explains what such associations can do and their advantages compared with government zoning. He noted that at the time he was writing (the early 2000s), there were more than 250,000 neighborhood associations in the United States, "about ten times the number of general-purpose municipalities." Most of these associations are created by the developers of large new communities and offered as a benefit to potential purchasers. Long-established law enables these associations to create rules and regulations and enforce them contractually. This is analogous to condominium associations, which are small-scale versions of private neighborhood associations. These private provisions are exempt from local zoning and, hence, would be protected from laws abolishing single-family zoning.
But what about neighborhoods long governed by traditional municipal zoning? Part IV of Nelson's book discusses how existing zoned neighborhoods might "secede" from a city. Clearly, they already have the right to form a voluntary homeowners association, like what exists in the neighborhood my wife and I live in. But those associations cannot make rules that homeowners must abide by. Nelson also discusses political and legal rationales for creating deed-based private neighborhood associations in currently zoned communities. That would likely require legislation, spelling out the supermajority required to form it and at least some guidance for negotiating which services the new association would take over from the city or county in which it is located. He writes, "A neighborhood association is a form of private government, like a business corporation, and thus should perhaps have wider constitutional freedom to conduct its affairs in its own way." He also notes that in many states, a neighborhood could already secede from a local government by incorporating as a new municipality, especially if it is currently located in an unincorporated portion of a county. That new city would be in a better position to convert to a private neighborhood association, since it would start fresh with no zoning code.
The difficulty of seceding from an incorporated city played out for me in 2001, when several Reason Foundation colleagues and I helped organize and run a conference for the organization that aimed to have the San Fernando Valley secede from the City of Los Angeles. Bob Nelson was one of 11 speakers at this event. The City charter required any secession to obtain a majority vote in both the City itself and in the portion that sought to secede. The measure was defeated, despite majority support in the Valley.
In short, there is a free market alternative to conventional zoning. As for the idea that California can fix its massive shortage of affordable housing by banning single-family zoning, readers should realize what caused the shortage. As Nelson points out in his book, starting in the 1960s a strong anti-growth movement led by relatively well-off environmentalists led to aggressive "down-zoning" and preventing undeveloped land from being converted to residential or any other use except "open space."
I saw this happening in Santa Barbara shortly after moving there in 1970. By the late 1980s, Nelson reports, more than 900 growth control measures had been adopted by California municipalities. And the newly created California Coastal Commission "protected" land along the coast from anything short of mansions on multiple-acre plots. Housing prices soared. Large wealthier counties adopted de facto urban growth boundaries, preventing new, more-affordable subdivisions from being built at the fringe. California's affordable housing shortage is self-inflicted. No such shortages exist in metro areas that don't restrict suburban expansion, such as Dallas, Houston, and Phoenix.
Single-family zoning came about as a result of market demand, which continues today as millennials start families and leave cities for suburban houses with yards, pools, and safe play areas for their kids. To the extent that there's a demand for more mixed-use housing, developers will seek sites where this can be done affordably, at the urban fringe and also denser infill development in neighborhoods already zoned for multifamily housing. Minor zoning changes could allow for increased density in those areas. And developers will continue to create private neighborhood associations to protect the values that homebuyers seek to obtain and preserve.
Single-family zoning is not the problem. Growth control is.
*CORRECTION: The original version of this story incorrectly described the timing of California's single-family zoning legislation.
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Home owner associations
In every way worse and more abusive than zoning
There are problems with zoning, homeowners associations are not in any way the answer
Ask anyone in Santa Barbara if they envy Phoenix Dallas or Houston
I think not
Zoning, or the abuse of it is certainly an element of the housing shortage.
This author does not have the solution
No, but he recognizes a non-solution when he sees one, and that there's no such thing as the solution.
There is a lot of variation in HOAs. They aren’t all Nazi-like.
We bought a house in an HOA neighborhood because we wanted our kid to go to the neighborhood school. The HOA has only risen to the level of annoying on a couple of occasions, and the benefits are four swimming pools, a community clubhouse and gym, and about five or six private parks.
And bottom line, moving to an HOA neighborhood is voluntary.
"We bought a house in an HOA neighborhood because we wanted our kid to go to the neighborhood school...
And bottom line, moving to an HOA neighborhood is voluntary."
Classic White Mike.
My boss lives in an HOA and he loves it. He's also the president.
There is a lot to be said for seizing power by being on the HOA committee. The downside is you have to be able to tolerate sitting in long, boring meetings, and hearing people’s petty complaints.
When I was younger, I made the mistake of buying a condo in an eight-unit complex. Since the pool of people was so small and we needed three officers, I ended up serving as board Vice President one year and Treasurer another year. For eight units there was a lot of drama:
- One unit was running a daycare, causing a mini-traffic jam every morning and afternoon.
- One person with an upstairs balcony kept overwatering their plants causing rot on the downstairs neighbor’s patio.
- One family bought a condo for their mother, who only speaks Chinese. She kept burning things in her kitchen, setting off the complex fire alarm.
Will the suffering never end?
It’s a tragic tale to be sure.
An HOA is good or bad depending on who runs it. I run such an HOA, a condo association technically, and I tend to be rather libertarian with the whole thing. Leave people alone regarding flags and political signage unless such signage is on the common grounds and interferes with the yard maintenance. Let them build individual porches and decks as long as they don't cover the walkways and driveways. Only really go after residents for leaving garbage all over the place or parking in such a way as to block other residents. Otherwise, stick to yard maintenance (leaving individual gardens and plantings alone), parking area maintenance, exterior maintenance, and snow plowing.
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This single global empire will ultimately employ the services of all the transnational institutions on the planet in order to regulate and control every aspect of human life.
It is a global empire run by an exclusive club, perhaps 8,000 to 10,000 strong, whose members do not pledge allegiance to any national flag, who snobbishly view themselves as superior to their countrymen, and who are indifferent to political ideology so long as they can control the political structure from within. They aim to erase all national borders and are well on their way to shredding the constitutions of every nation-state.
It is a global empire that, unlike days of yore, needs no standing army to wage war on a battlefield against an opposing empire. For, in this era of the single global empire, the enemy being subdued is each and every one of us.
That mission is being accomplished through a sophisticated information warfare campaign, which is designed to monitor and manipulate our every thought, word, and deed.
Importantly, this offensive attack on us is intended to suppress and stamp out freedom in every aspect of our lives—economic freedom; political freedom (particularly the freedom to impart and receive information and to accept or reject information); physical movement freedom; healthcare decision freedom; and, above all, the independence to think for ourselves—what can be called mental freedom.
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I couldn't have said it any better myself!!
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-Reason probably
> Part IV of Nelson's book discusses how existing zoned neighborhoods might "secede" from a city.
Can individual homeowners then secede from the neighborhood?
gotta be one or the other - pick a side!
R1 zones seceding from a city would be the best thing to happen to the city -any city.
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Buttplug hardest hit.
I posted about those the other day. Pluggo got pissy and called them "Jews for Nazis" or some such crap.
The Jews who oppose an actual war criminal are Nazis?
Sounds about right for him.
“Jews for Nazis”
Literally Soros in 1944, when he was pillaging Jewish homes instead of aiding the resistance.
You have to admit that shielding yourself from charges of being a nazi collaborator by claiming to be Jewish requires having massive balls.
White Mike hasn't had so many cum stains in his underpants since puberty.
Trump Is Facing ONE HUNDRED YEARS in Prison
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"Single-family zoning is not the problem. Growth control is. "
Individual property rights were violated with the institution of zoning laws. We know what a real problem is from a libertarian angle, a violation of property rights. People who think that someone using their property as they see fit is a problem that can be solved with laws are never going to understand why that won't work. You need to convince people that humans flourishing isn't a problem, not that they don't have the "correct type of growth controls". If someone has 8 kids and puts a second story on their house that's not a problem to be solved with zoning laws. It's not a problem at all, and these busybody types will always nitpick at something on someone else's property to improve.
There’s nothing wrong with putting in a rendering plant or a deer processing operation in your backyard.
But people buy into a neighborhood knowing what the zoning rules are. And then the state government comes along 10 or 20 years later and tells them they have to now allow high density housing that no one in the neighborhood wants (except the one or two people selling their lots to developers, who won't have to live in the now less desirable neighborhood.)
But people buy into neighborhoods knowing they are in counties and states where these rules may be modified.
I’m not unsympathetic to your notion but don’t think people’s expectations are an inviolable moral imperative.
Sure. Playing defeaning music all night long is fine and dandy.
That does not require zoning laws to solve. Pollution liability can solve for this.
Small price to pay for no more mean tweets.
Biden and ATF just created 29 million felons
"In a national revolt that rivals the Boston Tea Party, all but a handful of gun owners targeted by President Joe Biden have decided to protest the administration’s sweeping rule to regulate one of the most popular and freely owned firearms ever made.
The owners of just 0.6% to 1% of AR-15-style pistols have complied with a May 31 deadline set by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to register their firearms. By failing to do so, the owners of an estimated 20 million to 40 million guns could face 10 years in prison, a $10,000 fine, or both.
According to ATF spokesman Erik Longnecker, “As of June 1, 2023, ATF received 255,162 applications for tax-free registration.”
If you take the median number of guns in use, said John Lott Jr., president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, “you are still talking about 29 million people who are technically committing felonies at this point.”
I'm not sure I buy those numbers. I've heard there are that number of AR-15s in the country. But very few of those AR-15s are set up in a pistol configuration, and even fewer of those have "pistol braces" on their buffer tubes.
OTOH, I'm loath to contradict Lott, who usually has his head on straight.
The “high” number is around 40 million.
Still, I don't think 75% of the ARs out there are AR pistols. They're popular, but not nearly *that* popular.
Where do get those statistics?
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Chemjeffs suddenly cried out in rage and were suddenly silenced.
National Health Service in Great Britain bans puberty blockers
The backlash against “gender-affirming care” is in full swing in Europe, so America and Canada bravely battle on alone in maiming and poisoning our children.
Modifying your body with permanent surgical and hormonal interventions is not "care," nor does it "affirm" your gender, it attempts to disguise it. People ought to be free to live their lives as they choose, but children are in no way ready to make such a life-altering decision.
And why go through all that to try to conform to outdated gender stereotypes of how men and women should act? Why not just be a more feminine acting man, or more masculine acting woman?
Because 2SLGBTQ+ is both a psychotic death cult and a handy establishment tool.
You left out recruiting tool.
Gloating that there is a different standard of justice and that you are above the law, is next level bullshit.
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Are you one of those people that wants to divert the Mississippi through a series of canals that will cost many billions of dollars so California has enough water to support *un*controlled growth?
I guess you're saying they "accept" this "agreement" by buying the house? But what about people who bought a house before zoning was implemented? And are you saying that zoning can never change unless you get unanimous consent, or else the "agreement" is violated?
So if I want to do something that isn't permitted by the agreement, I have to potentially wait *30 years* to even bring it up, and I need supermajority support at that time, and if I'm even one vote short I have to wait another 30 years to bring it up again? How is this better than having to bring it up at a zoning commission meeting?
Perhaps one day you will actually own property, then you might understand.
California has an unlimited supply of water. Just west of the sand. It only needs the salt taken out of it.
They don’t want to build nukes.
Or solve problems.
Joe Biden allegedly paid $5M by Burisma executive as part of a bribery scheme, according to FBI document
So when Trump was going through his first phony impeachment trial on exactly this issue, the FBI brass already had this information and sat on it.
It was critical to impeach Trump for asking the Ukrainian government to investigate something that actually happened.
I was told it was a high crime or high misdemeanor to even ask for sn investogation of a possible political opponent.
I assume you are referring to Trump’s Ukraine phone call. Trump didn’t merely ask, he tried to withhold Congressionally-allocated foreign aid to extort Zelenskyy into making a public statement embarrassing to Trump’s political opponent. (Trump didn’t give a shit about an actual investigation.)
Of course, you know all this.
Except they didn’t and he didn’t, but you know all this.
Also,
"to extort"
...you're a deliberate fucking liar.
He’s a paid liar.
No wonder we call him Mike Liarson.
And he clains to not have a side.
The transcript has been released you lying fuck.
And Liarson claims to not have a side.
He has much credibility among us as Willis Carto!
The best part is, since we dare to believe our lying eyes and ears, he can label us all Trump Cultist, right alongside Collectivist Jeff and others.
Do I have to wear a MAGA hat now?
Your comments attacking me personally reveal more about your own allegiances to a side than mine.
It was critical to impeach Trump.
Corporatism and censorship isn't just for Nazis... oh wait.
Billionaire Biden campaign donor Pierre Omidyar financed the "misinformation reporting" portal used by the Department of Homeland Security to flag social media posts for removal during the 2020 election, new document shows
This will perk Jeff up after the UK ban blow.
EXCLUSIVE: Kids subjected to bizarre nude performance at 'all ages' Oregon State drag event
The event included a demonstration of 't*tty weight lifting.'
The 'Illegal Drag Show' event was hosted by a student-fee-funded campus group.
Watching Titty weight lifting is just more knowledge.
What proportion of high school boys wpuld support strip shows in their school auditoriums?
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FTFY
To abolish single-family zoning is a violation of the contract between a municipality and its single-family homeowners.
Except that there was no such "contract". It would be interesting to see, though, what proportion of homeowners would want there to be one. And how much that would change when reminded that it could prevent them from running a home-based business.
Was anyone there not a cop? I guess you can tell who wasn't by who got charged.
Plainclothes cops at Capitol during Jan. 6 riot, one on video exhorting crowd
Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., the chairman of the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight, said in wide-ranging interview Wednesday night that MPD body cam video that leaked onto the video platform Rumble is authentic and confirms that officers in plainclothes were at the riot.
“We know that it is one of their officers and at one point he is encouraging, and it appears he's encouraging, he’s definitely helping people climb the scaffolding, and he's telling them go, go, go,”...
“Why is an officer encouraging people to climb the scaffolding and go into the Capitol? And secondly, why did the MPD Metropolitan Police support department decide to put undercover officers in the crowd? Was there intelligence that they had that was or was not passed on to the Capitol Police and what did the Capitol police do with that evidence, if they got it?” he added.
On May 16, Loudermilk wrote a letter to the MPD police chief requesting additional information about the officers that were present including the original body cam footage from all officers that were on-site at the Capitol that day and "all officer and department after action reports and after incident reports concerning the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021."
He also requested "a list identifying all MPD officers on duty on January 6, 2021, who were engaged in activities concerning the restoration of civil order at or concerning the U.S. Capitol Complex, including their unit and any information on their assignment, and whether they were in uniform or plain clothes in their role as a law enforcement officer on January 6, 2021."
According to committee staff, the MPD is cooperating with Loudermilk's requests but additional details about the presence of the officers is not yet available for public disclosure."
Citation Links:
MPD Bodycam video
Oversight Letter to MPD
The officers are named right here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/631445713/MPD-Report#
In B4 "Nelson" ignores our citations and demands a citation.
Video withheld from the vast majority of defendants.
"Can't risk endangering officers lives by exposing ourselves."
Press Silence on Latest Twitter Files Scandal a New Low
Newly released documents clearly show the FBI tried to help Ukrainian intelligence censor Aaron Mate, but the mainstream press continues to show its lack of principle
Vote with your feet. If the zoning laws suck, go someplace less-bad. And take your property taxes with you.
Agreed, but Reason wants the whole state to have the same zoning laws.
Hearing Robert Poole, of all people, embrace zoning laws is like hearing the Pope announce he’s converted to Islam.
The kind of contract among homeowners to keep their neighborhood unchanged that Poole describes is a good idea. It ought to exist, and in parts of Houston it does. But zoning laws are not contracts, because they weren’t agreed to unanimously. They need to go away.
Zoning laws are all effectively written by a few rich homeowners, which operate zoning authorities as private cartels, forcibly keeping most unbuilt land off the market in order to profit from the resulting deliberate housing shortage. Where they exist there is no free market, and they are illegitimate.
Holy crap... I'm agreeing with Robert Poole!
Why would someone not agree with Robert Poole? He has a long history of well-researched, sensible, libertarian policy advice.
I have found him a bit overly wonky and too deferential to the state on *some* transportation issues.
I think even Poole would agree that he is wonky.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1667580437646958601?t=emFPI_hxAO1YQSxgST6H4Q&s=19
JUST IN - Ted Kaczynski, known as "Unabomber," was found dead in his jail cell this morning, authorities say.
Where was Bill and Hillary at the time and what did Ted know?
Where the cameras off for “maintenance “?
Good riddance to bad rubbish who was a hater of Reason, Freedom, and Human Flourishing!
Get the Fleet Enema and matchbox casket ready, right next to Pat Robertson's and Jerry Falwell's! And crank up the N'awlin' Jazz band to play "The Worms Crawl In, The Worms Crawl Out!"
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The White House is bringing back masks for the unvaccinated.
[Link]
I noticed New Yorkers were all excitedly redonning their masks again. Thank God for wildfires, amirite?
Oy vey
Douglas Murray and Julie Bindel rip "Pride" a new one.
Honestly don't know why gay men, lesbian women and women in general are putting up with this bullshit.
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1667421168088027141?t=me_vVtCcE8_iGoIszGNKxw&s=19
They connected Trump’s indictment to the Holocaust
Less than 24 hours and we are here
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It's amazing to know what people don't know.
What's with the whiteface? Who's culture is he appropriating?
In those days, most people lived in long-established communities in cities.
This literally cannot be true.
In 1920 half of the American population was still rural. In 1900 it was 60% rural.
It is impossible for "most" of Americans to live in "long established" communities in cities when we didn't get to the point where half of Americans lived in cities at all until after WWI.
I've got plenty of issues with urban planning and growth control. Its good to discuss the issues, which are complex and fraught. Some byzantine rules are just invitations for grift. But don't start with such a stupid, incorrect vision. It makes it seem like the article was written for a high school civics class debate.
Yeah I didn't look it up but that sounded sketchy to me.
So, Poole obviously meant the most non-farm dwellers. But nitpick away.
"Don't criticize Reason!!!"
Can you read his mind Mike? Isnt that what you accuse others of here for interpreting their clear meaning?
Phrasing. In those days most people in cities lived in long established communities.
Well, you can tell that all the Reason staffers have the day off today, not a single one of their socks anywhere to be seen!
White Mike's been policing the comments, and he likes to regard himself as staff.
Uppity intern on the weekend.
Following ENB around on Twitter like a retarded beaten puppy makes him the one true libertarian.
You really scalped White Mike with that one chief.
Go be racist somewhere else, DOL.
Just giving you a taste of your own medicine ya bigoted coward.
What "medicine" would that be, you trolling Nazi fuck? Still pissy that everyone called you out for stolen valor?
Your homophobia, transphobia, racism.
I'm not scared of trans, the genuine few who aren't perverts publicly indulging in their crossdressing kink, are mentally ill victims of gaslighting creeps like you. I feel sorry for them, but that's no phobia.
As for racism, what the fuck were you just doing four posts above, you unrepentant Nazi fuck.
It’s adorable you think you’re betters at reason give a shit what you white trash rubes think.
Thanks for the clicks dumbass.
I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that the Reasonistas are way too busy sucking up to the Beltway crowd to give a shit about the proles. You're preaching to the choir on that one.
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White trash rube.
Don’t you have a klan rally to go to?
He's not going to hang out with you, freakshow.
Good one chief!
If the klan allowed Métis you’d fit right in with them.
So us half breeds don't have a chance with your organization, Mr. Grand Kleagle?
Aren't you on your way to Stalin celebration, steaming pile of lefty shit?
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“It’s adorable you think you’re betters at reason give a shit what you white trash rubes think.”
If you’re going to try and pretend you’re better than us, you might want to check YOUR posts, you moronic jizz rag.
So annoying.
Stockman explains carbon capture.
https://internationalman.com/articles/david-stockman-on-the-phony-climate-change-catastrophe-and-why-americans-will-foot-the-bill/
Huge amounts of energy and materials will be used to build and operate these monstrosities, but unlike present day remnants of the Egyptian pyramids, we doubt that some future owners will even be able to charge tourist admission, meaning that the return to society on investment will be somewhere between nichts, nada, nugatory and nothing.
This loony idea apparently stems from the fact that Occidental recently took a stake in Carbon Engineering, a startup backed by Bill Gates, which developed a system to capture, purify and compress CO2. And, oh, Warren Buffett is Oxy’s controlling shareholder, to boot. It’s no wonder this once great American company is being led off the deep-end by these two and its Fortune 100 style woke CEO, Vicki Hollub.
In any event, these contraptions are to sit out by their lonesome in the open expanses of Texas, employing giant fields of fans which pull plain old ambient air into huge containers. Therein massive amounts of energy and chemicals will be deployed to bind with the CO2 to separate it from the air, eventually creating pellets. The pellets will then be heated to release pure carbon dioxide, which, in turn, will be compressed to be transported through pipelines and funneled deep underground.
Naturally, Oxy’s executives have been led to believe that they are doing god’s work, with a big helping hand from Uncle Sam’s lavish subsidies. For instance, Richard Jackson, Occidental’s president of U.S. onshore resources and carbon management, is clearly drinking the cool-aid in big gulps: “We can turn CO2 into value,” he said.
Well, no, they will be doing just the opposite: Turning valuable ambient CO2, on which the plant and animal life of the planet depends, into dead material to be buried deep in the earth, and at enormous waste of economic resources.
So annoying. Reason shrugs.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/06/09/fbi-finally-shows-doc-reveals-burisma-bribery-scheme-alleges-5-million-paid-to-each-biden-1366650/
The Burisma executive sought the advice of the confidential source, a business professional, on gaining U.S. oil rights and getting involved with a U.S. oil company, the sources familiar with the document said. The Burisma executive was speaking with the confidential source to “get advice on the best way to go forward” in 2015 and 2016.
According to the FD-1023 form, the confidential human source said the Burisma executive discussed Hunter’s role on the board. The confidential human source questioned why the Burisma executive needed his or her advice in acquiring access to U.S. oil if he had Hunter Biden on the board. The Burisma executive answered by referring to Hunter Biden as “dumb.”
Burisma had no choice but to “pay the Bidens,” the executive told the confidential source, because of an investigation into Burisma by Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin.
The confidential source reportedly suggested that the exec “pay the Bidens $50,000 each.”
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Seems like a bargain. Too bad about the war thing.
Meh. The Biden regime is all in on war so win/win.
Trump got impeached for asking about that.
Trump got impeached because he needed to be gone any way that could be engineered.
That, and he kept pulling shit that he shouldn’t.
Mike keeps saying that but you ask him what and he never has anything real.
How many times do I have to remind you this is local news?
"You know what's really bad? It's that the Republicans are being obnoxious about it. Do they really want to drag the nation through yet another impeachment attempt?" - Boehm next week.
Why not have a nice snap impeachment to find out if there is anything to this?
MK Ultra, the CIA thing not the Reason commenter, scores!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/10/us/ted-kaczynski-unabomber-dead/index.html
Hey, good job by Reason presenting the other side of the story, instead of just going all in on "the state mandating high-density affordable housing in your exclusive neighborhood is a good thing, because freedom" argument.
I thought the same thing. Not an expert but this is definitely a change from the "moar duplexes" thing that gets the Koch heads so jazzed up.
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They’re probably all feds.
It’d be funny if Elon changed the color of the text for every account that signed up with a .gov email address.
single family zoning is a way for property owners to practice exclusionary rights on their neighbors property. It's not the same as blocking heavy industry from a residential zone (like a rendering plant would flood your property with noxious odors). Single family zoning is a tremendous government intervention at the expense of individual liberty for property owners and it makes our cities much worse places to live. It's the worst kind of government intervention. People want to live in mixed use high density neighborhoods, there aren't enough of them and it's ridiculous that the government is intervening to stop property owners from building the kind of improvements on their property that the market wants.
The fact that the government made a contract to abuse the rights of other property owners for the sake of any given property owner is irrelevant. Just like someone who pays to get into a business that the government wrongly restricts entry into the government shouldn't perpetuate a wrong just for the sake of the people who invested in it.
"single family zoning is a way for property owners to practice exclusionary rights on their neighbors property..."
Bullshit.
This assumes such zoning was not there prior to the neighbors purchasing the property; typical lefty blame-shifting.
People want to live in mixed use high density neighborhoods,
Do you have a credible citation for that statement?
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Leftists think they're uniquely entitled to own your children.
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Your weekly reminder that you’re a pathetic coward.
No fan of nardz, but as the sock of some twit or other, you seemed to have responded to a claim not made.
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You remain (at Reason) one of the few who still maintain a strong sentiment toward market solutions as opposed to disputing local vs larger gov't control, but:
"...As for the idea that California can fix its massive shortage of affordable housing..."
There is no such thing as "affordable housing" (nor a shortage of same) any more than there is a "living wage"; both are invented terms to lend weight to bogus lefty arguments.
Housing costs, while certainly affected by zoning, are driven by the market for housing in desirable areas and, yes, many people living in desirable areas prefer lower density housing.
Which in no way indicates a shortage of "affordable housing"; satisfying your desirers costs money. Put up, or shut up.
All the housing in these crisis locations is affordable, since people own or rent and live in them.
More to your point: we can decode "affordable housing" as cheap enough for anyone who just wishes to live in a place, regardless of their personal finances. The companion "living wage" is a demand for enough pay to support a desired life style, regardless of the value of work done.
"All the housing in these crisis locations is affordable, since people own or rent and live in them..."
'San Francisco housing is too expensive!!!!'
We know some RE agents; if a place stays on the market for more than a week or so, it might be over-priced.
ALL of it sells, and the only empty rentals are residential units kept off the market to avoid getting locked into a (temporarily-low) 'rent controlled' amount or empty retail spaces resulting from Newsom's and Breed's tin-pot-dictator-wannabe lock-down-driven bankruptcies.
Did not realize this was the AM Lincs, and have a couple, but let's let this one lose:
"25-year-old Monroe Lace has been crowned the first trans Miss San Francisco in the pageant's 99-year history, and she will now compete for the title of Miss California, and possibly even Miss America.
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And hold on to your tiara, as the Bay Area Reporter informed us in March that a trans woman had won the Miss San Francisco competition. That’s 25-year-old Monroe Lace, a Bay Area native and UCLA grad, the only trans woman to win Miss San Francisco in the title’s 99-year history.
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And as Lace explains in a new KPIX interview, the duties mostly involve visiting elementary schools (nearly every day) as these pageants are trying to evolve from their sexist, swimsuit-competition past.
"Every time I put on the sash, the weight of it reminds me of the weight of my job; of the responsibility I have to make a difference for young children," Monroe told KPIX..."
https://sfist.com/2023/06/06/trans-woman-crowned-miss-san-francisco-for-first-time-ever-and-yes-she-is-eligible-to-be-miss-america/
His voice has changed...
https://twitter.com/pwleaks/status/1667597682137874432?t=4HTxDkk_JptBNk9y_QtA6g&s=19
BREAKING: CDC confirms that COVID vaccinations increase risk of myocarditis by 13,200%, according to new study.
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That’s the study that was released late 2021 and early 2022.
I don’t trust that Patrick Webb guy. I’ve felt there’s been something glowie about his posts for a while now. He posts old stuff and says it’s just come out. He wildly inflates figures that were already awful and didn’t need inflating. He makes plausible but incendiary claims and provides “quotes” but there’s no attribution, no link and searches turn up nothing.
Kind of like what someone trying to discredit these studies would do.
"To abolish single-family zoning is a violation of the contract between a municipality and its single-family homeowners."
No it isn't because such a contract never existed. There was no enforceable promise to continue with the inane restrictions on other people's property rights, there was no quid pro quo nor was there a meeting of minds, since nobody said those laws would not be changed without the consent of the owners. The laws were enacted without the consent of the owners in the first place.
Abolishing single family housing might not singlehandedly solve the housing shortage, but so what? Even if it did nothing removing a restriction on property rights is a good thing.
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Don’t call it single family zoning. Call it what it is ‘Bans on apartments’. It’s state-sponsored violation of personal property rights.
If I want to put up an granny apartment or home office on my property, it’s no one’s business but my own. If I want to sell my property to a developer and let them put up a duplex, that’s my right also.
Sure. Why not a feed lot and all-night outdoor rave center?
Time advances, things change... sure your dream home with its white picket fence was charming when you moved in. But it is 20 years later and the community around that home has evolved into something else...
jerryskids has a post about this being the best of all possible worlds; the results of billions of individual decisions reacting to the world around them.
When your neighbors find more value in feedlots, you may need to reconsider the location of your dream home.
Did I say feed lot or all-night outdoor rave center?
Noise noises or hazards should be regulated. A duplex is neither.
misplaced response?
"Don’t call it single family zoning. Call it what it is ‘Bans on apartments’..."
Sure. Why be honest when you can spin some propaganda? We got your number when you walked in the door; buzz off.
Supply and demand cannot be "tricked." Just evict all the illegal aliens. That will cause a housing glut and plummeting home prices.
Single-family zoning is not the problem. Growth control is.
R1 zoning only allows one kind of growth - horizontal sprawl. Even if that is not controlled by regulation, it is most certainly controlled by transport/commute costs. At a certain point, you're not growing LA. You're in Bakersfield or the Mojave or Mexico and a 2 hr commute has turned into a 4+ hr commute.
And that growth is also a Ponzi scheme. You can finance the initial construction of infrastructure by developing land from farm value to residential value. But you can't maintain that infrastructure or pay for the re-construction at the 30 year end-of-life.
When you run out of growth, the 'muni' (if that is a real word for the entity that sprawls to that limit) has the finances of Detroit (which is 65% R1 zone). And unlike Detroit, the sprawled-to areas never had any jobs out there to begin with. They were always based purely on a long commute to somewhere else.
The problem with pro-density viewpoints, is that all-other-things-being-equal, very few Americans WANT to live in high-density environments.
Rather, they end up *forced* into such environments by inadequate infrastructure, which then drives up the (otherwise far lower, if traffic were not a consideration) value of downtown real-estate.
Density creates traffic problems, which create more density, doom-loop away until your city has walled itself off from the surrounding population with traffic gridlock....
That may be but all other things are not equal. The sprawling infrastructure costs more - a lot more over the course of its life - because of the sprawliness. That just is.
More important, 'density' isn't really the issue. Rephrase that whole traffic congestion problem. It's not 'the roads are too crowded'. It's 'it takes too long to get to places you need/want to go' - and 'there are no alternative ways to get there' - and 'the experience of traffic congestion ruins everyone's day outside that congestion'.
Yeah you might not prefer a duplex nearby. But why is the grocery store (and everywhere else you want to go) still a long car-only ride away? R1 zoning is not just about regulations on one lot. It's about the miles and miles of parcels that all have the same requirement.
Regardless - suburbs and urbs have to go in different directions now. Which is also why governance (and tax base) needs to move down to local
Perhaps mentioned in the books cited but not that I could find anywhere mentioned in this article is what happens AFTER a community association is formed by a supermajority or AFTER it secedes from a city and incorporates. Then the supermajority requirement is dropped in favor of a simple majority for most decisions. I live in a neighborhood governed by an excellent Association and have served on the Board in the past. Somewhere along the way the Association adopted a requirement for members to post a ten percent deposit before starting any home modification projects over a certain amount. It was not a requirement when I bought the property and signed the covenants; it was not a requirement when I served on the Board as Maintenance Supervisor; and I don't recall that it was ever proposed as a change to the Covenants requiring a vote of the property owners. Be very, very careful when you buy a Homeowners Association property or form an Association to take the complexities and potential problems into account, even though it is head and shoulders a better arrangement than county, state or federal nit-picking in general.
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Wait, so removing a law that violates my property rights is wrong....how?
Stopping violations of property rights is wrong ... how?
Zoning laws imposed by government that do not have individual express consent and agreement by the individual participants, like condo/co-op/home-owners association do, are contracts...how?
This whole article is sophistry gaslighting as some sort of bizarro world 'libertarianism'.
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Noticing things is extremism.
It’s not fascism if we don’t call it that.
Reason is what corporate fascists want libertarians too be.
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Quoting the UN, World Bank and WEF word-for-word is coNspiRacy tHeoRiEs.
"Let's call our fascism 'anti-fascism' and when people accuse us of being fascist we'll say 'How dare you, we're anti-fascist. Can't you read our name?'. Then we'll do the same thing with racism." - Woke radicals in the 90's.
Exactly that.
We all know what side Liarson is on!
That particular hack works very well.
Remember, the difference between matter and anti-matter is purely a reversal of polarity.
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I can deal.
And staying there until the train comes through.
Call him "Stolen Valor", that gets him huffy.
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good thing DC has enough lampposts for its professional bureaucrat class.
"Dipshit" will work, too.
But you can solve for this without zoning laws by legislation or contracts that govern sewers and other utilities with market pricing. Many problems are caused when the state uses its monopoly to break things.