Will Separation of Powers Doom Biden's Student Debt Plan?
Biden v. Nebraska has far-reaching implications for presidential power.

In 2020, the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the Trump administration from unilaterally rescinding the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. The administration's attempted cancellation of DACA, which protects unauthorized immigrants who arrived in the United States as children, was "arbitrary and capricious" and exceeded the executive branch's lawful authority, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority.
In February, the Supreme Court heard Biden v. Nebraska, another case with far-reaching implications for executive authority. Unfortunately for President Joe Biden, the case reminded Roberts of his 2020 ruling against Trump.
At issue in Nebraska is Biden's 2022 plan to cancel up to $10,000 in student loan debt for every borrower who earns less than $125,000 a year. Pell Grant recipients would be eligible for up to $20,000 in debt relief. The plan would benefit more than 40 million borrowers and cost an estimated $400 billion.
According to "your view," Roberts told Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar during oral arguments, "the president can act unilaterally" and "there was no role for Congress to play in this either." Roberts seemed to have a problem with that view. "We take very seriously the idea of separation of powers and that power should be divided to prevent its abuse," he said. "There are many procedural niceties that have to be followed for the same purpose."
Things soon got worse for the Biden administration. "This case reminds me of the one we had a few years ago under a different administration, where the administration tried acting on its own to cancel the [DACA] program, and we blocked that effort," Roberts said. He did not need to add that he wrote the opinion in that case.
A few minutes later, the chief justice returned to the big questions about executive power raised by Biden's student loan plan. "If you're talking about this in the abstract," he told Prelogar, "I think most casual observers would say, if you're going to give up that much amount of money, if you're going to affect the obligations of that many Americans on a subject that's of great controversy.…that's something for Congress to act on." And if Congress hasn't "acted on it," Roberts continued, "then maybe that's a good lesson to say for the president, or the administrative bureaucracy, that maybe that's not something they should undertake on their own."
If Roberts really does view Nebraska in this way, and if at least four other justices see things similarly, Biden's student debt cancellation plan is probably doomed.
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The administration's attempted cancellation of DACA, which protects unauthorized immigrants who arrived in the United States as children, was "arbitrary and capricious" and exceeded the executive branch's lawful authority, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority.
But, y'know, *creating* it wasn't any of those things.
No joke. I like how making it out of thin air WAS NOT exceeding executive authority but ending it is.
That's the bit that doesn't make sense to me. It was created out of whole cloth by one administration with basically no input yet ending the program required an act of congress? It basically ties the hands of future administrations on doing away with prior administrative acts meaning a President like Obama can continue to get their way even after they're out of office.
Something tells me that relying on the opinion on Roberts on anything is a huge gamble.
Roberts is more worried about the supreme court than anything else, including the constitution.
And the whole point of ending DACA was to force Congress' hand. Basically saying "It ends on this date, if you really want it, all you have to do is legislate." If they'd passed a DACA Trump would have signed it.
This is the other maddening thing about executive orders. They allow Congress to absolve themselves from their responsibilities, which makes their extreme posturing that much worse.
If remember correctly DACA was created by executive orders, not congress.
But creating it by executive order was completely different from canceling it by executive order, because Trump.
And DACA is terrible policy anyway. Illegal children of illegals should have known better than to illegally come here and take up illegal residence, illegally make friends, and build an illegal life. They're fucking illegal for fuck's sake. What part of illegal do they not understand?
And sarc defends executive power with bumper sticker statements. Totally not a neocon/democrat.
Even Maine is seeing the costs of illegal immigration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/maines-largest-city-strains-under-asylum-seeker-influx-11548601200
But sarc is going to stick to his talking points. Never bring up costs. Never bring up infrastructure issues. Never bring up lack of jobs for an influx of 5M low wage workers or the welfare state that backs them. Stick to bumper stickers and ignorance.
Do you know who declared people illegal first?
Every human collective in history? There has always been group conflicts. Not sure why some of you deny this.
Lycon, Anytus, and Meletus
Immigration should not be illegal in the first place! The most the Federal government should do is identify visitors and immigrants as they arrive to identify known criminals. There should be no quotas and no expenses associated with visitors or immigrants except, perhaps, emergency medical services. The government should not feed, clothe, shelter or educate visitors or immigrants - or anyone else for that matter - in the United States. Anyone who comes here (and every permanent resident and citizen) should be expected to support themselves with their own private arrangements. There should be no laws regarding employment to artificially limit - intentionally or unintentionally - the ability to earn a living. Of course none of that is true, but the fact does not excuse limiting immigration - two wrongs don't make a right. Go peddle it somewhere else.
End the welfare state first and you would get many more on board. Open borders into a welfare state is a losing proposition.
Correct! When the Supreme Court LIKES an "arbitrary and capricious" executive order (DACA - Obama) it's not unconstitutional, but when the Supreme Court does NOT like the recission of an executive order with another executive order (Trump - failure of Congress to pass the Dreamer Act), it's "arbitrary and capricious."
Good. Fuck the executive branch in the ass. They need to be beaten back into their corner.
A perfect demonstration of how inept the Supreme Court really is.
There was no Constitutional authority for DACA. There is no Constitutional authority for wealth redistribution. There is no “KING” in the USA.
If the Constitution doesn’t even grant the power to congress it most certainly doesn’t grant the power to the “KING”.
For F’Sakes; It’s not that hard of a job — DO YOUR F’EN JOB!!!!
But what if lots of Americans want a king, especially to proclaim new rules to save democracy?
How are the two examples the same? Ending DACA was not giving a favored constituent a benefit. It was ending a likely illegal EO from a prior president. Biden is literally trying to give money away. The two situations are not the same.
According to “your view,” Roberts told Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar during oral arguments, “the president can act unilaterally” and “there was no role for Congress to play in this either.” Roberts seemed to have a problem with that view. “We take very seriously the idea of separation of powers and that power should be divided to prevent its abuse,” he said. “There are many procedural niceties that have to be followed for the same purpose.”
Obama original DACA plan was the separation of powers issuez not rescinding it.
Things soon got worse for the Biden administration. "This case reminds me of the one we had a few years ago under a different administration, where the administration tried acting on its own to cancel the [DACA] program, and we blocked that effort," Roberts said. He did not need to add that he wrote the opinion in that case.
Roberts is the most foolhardy of the judges. Daca was never passed legislatively.
All decisions and actions must have a Trump reference.
Root likes DACA. There is the difference. Merely utilitarian preferences.
You guys realize that Biden has already forgiven billions in students loans, with at least $40 billion since 2021 and aiming for hundreds of billions, right? No matter what happens to the grand jubilee plan, all those suffering barristas will be rewarded for their marches and votes.
"Will Separation of Powers Doom Biden's Student Debt Plan?"
Not until and unless the supremes say so.
Fascists look at the constitution as a guideline, mostly.
Actually, more like a fig leaf or an excuse to hate people. Especially people who oppose "progress".
Progressive/Aggressive Gov-Gun use against those 'icky' people...
It's amazing how they can deflect their purely tyrannical desires.
[WE] mob RULES!! [WE] just hope [WE] will never be at the end of those gangster guns of bullying those 'icky' people around.
No, they look at the Constitution as a suggestion. Look at the push to ban hate speech and how they define it.
> Pell Grant recipients would be eligible for up to $20,000 in debt relief.
Pell Grant is not a loan, not a debt, it is an grant. Hence the name. It does not need to be paid back.
In the land where the special people get 'grants' to STEAL with Gov-Guns from those 'icky' people.
Perhaps the meaning was if your special enough to get 'grants' to steal some why stop there. More, more, more stolen money from those 'icky' people.
Are you retarded? This is for loans taken after the grant.
Just a misunderstanding on your part. Non-Pell Grant recipients would not get as much debt relief on their student loans as Pell Grant recipients would get on their student loans. So even while discriminating against people who didn't go to college, they're also discriminating against less honored wealthy students in favor of more highly decorated wealthier students.
Pell grants are limited to students with "exceptional financial need", and the maximum for the 2022-23 school year was $6,845. There are hardly any colleges where tuition is that low, let alone tuition + fees + books + living expenses, so most students receiving Pell Grants also need a loan.
So what this provision does is to double the student loan relief for graduates who were so poor when they were in college that they were eligible for and received a Pell Grant as well as a loan. It's using the Pell Grant as a means test - but it's testing the student's family's finances in the past rather than his current income.
Somebody should tell Biden to stop calling it student loan forgiveness and start calling it a penaltax. I heard Roberts doesn't have a problem with a penaltax.
In it's purest definition it would be legal "armed-theft" for commie-educated students.
As long as the Supreme Court is on the subject of "separation of powers," it might be a good place to remind them that it goes both ways. Is the Executive Branch required to do whatever Congress passes or, if the President refuses to carry out their wishes, does it mean maybe Congress shouldn't have acted? This Supreme Court did reverse Roe v. Wade, but previous Supreme Courts haven't hesitated to "legislate from the bench" in violation of "separation of powers." If I could change just one thing from the original Constitution, it would be to add automatic judicial review of all new legislation, all new regulatory actions and all new Executive Orders for constitutionality, giving the judiciary original jurisdiction so private citizens would not have to waste precious resources on suing the government.
>>Biden v. Nebraska has far-reaching implications for presidential power.
tragically ludicrous.
‘The administration’s cancellation of DACA…was “arbitrary and capricious.” ‘
One of the worst SCOTUS rulings in history. DACA itself was arbitrary, capricious, and unconstitutional - Obama himself admitted so. The correct action was nullifying that original Executive Order.
It should NEVER take more than a counter-order to conceal any Executive Order - period. Nor should any unconstitutional EO ever be allowed to take effect in the first place. No POTUS has any power to impose THEIR EOs on any subsequent POTUS.
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