Poll: Most Americans Don't Think a College Degree Is Worth the Cost
56 percent agreed that "people often graduate without specific job skills and with a large amount of debt to pay off."

With tuition rates increasing and college attendance rates declining, a new poll from The Wall Street Journal and the National Opinion Research Center suggests that Americans' confidence in the value of a college degree is fading.
The survey shows a dramatic decline in the percentage of Americans who believe a four-year college degree is worth the costs. Only 42 percent of its respondents agreed that a "four-year college education is worth the cost because people have a better chance to get a good job and earn more income over their lifetime," down 11 percentage points since 2013. Meanwhile, 56 percent of respondents—a leap of 16 percentage points since 2013—agreed that a college degree wasn't "worth the cost because people often graduate without specific job skills and with a large amount of debt to pay off."
Suspicion of college education was highest among 18- to 34-year-olds, more than 60 percent of whom answered that a degree wasn't worth the costs. While opinions in that age group hadn't changed much since 2017, views of college declined dramatically among Americans aged 50 or older in that time. For those 65 and older, it dropped 12 percentage points—from 56 percent to 44 percent.
And the gender divide on this question seems to be closing. While women are still slightly more likely to say that a college degree is worth the costs, the rate of women agreeing that a college degree is worth it has declined by 10 percentage points since 2017.
The findings aren't surprising. The rate of recent high school graduates attending college has been declining in recent years, with a 3.5 percentage point drop, the largest in 30 years, occurring from 2019 to 2020. While the rate of this decline has slowed, high school students are still increasingly wary of attending college after graduation, with many explaining their views by citing the high burden of post-college debt—and the existence of well-paying jobs that require only a high school diploma.
While the rate of college attendance has been declining, participation in apprenticeship programs has increased by more than 50 percent in the past decade. These programs give participants valuable skills that lead directly to well-paying jobs—and without burdensome student loan debt.
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All depends on the major.
It does in [WE] mob RULES! governing ideology.
Once upon a time the USA was founded on Individual Liberty and Justice.
Think Emma makes a good point. She attended an UVA, which must have set her mommy and daddy back $150. All for degrees in philosophy and English literature. And for what? A job at Reason, which is an embarrassing shadow of it’s former self?
Sounds like a pretty shit investment to me. Even worse if she or her family actually borrowed the money.
Yes, but... It didn't used to be nearly this extreme.
Med school was expensive - and you made it back. Ditto for law school or a good engineering degree. Yes, there were also still useless degrees when we went to school but they didn't generally saddle you with crippling debt. Now, even a degree in Underwater Basketweaving at the local state school will cost more than the average family anywhere else in the world will earn in their entire lives.
It's odd that universities and hospitals have huge endowments and earn a ton of free cash flow each year - but use their endowments and invest to raise their fixed costs for future years. Rather than use those endowments/investments to fund operations and lower costs/prices for their products.
Government subsidizes students and universities with lots of money to cover operations. Why would universities use their endowments for that?
The debt load depends a lot more on where you got the degree than what you studied. A lot of private universities are immensely expensive (with deep resources for need-based financial aid other than loans when they choose to deploy them) regardless of whether you're looking to get a degree in Engineering or in Comparative Literature, and a lot of major "state schools" are relatively inexpensive for in-state students regardless of the major as well. Someone studying Electrical Engineering or Nursing will have no trouble clearing their student loan debt (and will likely be able to get Grad school funded by their employer if they choose to go back), whether they go to their local "State" or "Tech" school or a high-cost Private University. Someone getting a generic B.A. in pretty much any "liberal arts" field might be able to deal with the costs of state school, but will likely have a hard time if they choose a private institution with a $60-90k/year cost of attendance.
Major and school.
From the article, this survey was nonsense. There's a world of difference between a PhD in philosophy from Yale versus a bachelor's in CS from the local state school.
yes,the CS graduate will be able to find a job.
At least until the Yale philosophy graduate buys the company and outsources CS jobs to Bangalore.
College is not about degrees/courses. It is about networks/connections.
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First colleges should have to backstop 50% of all student federal insured loans. Second..besides engineering, comp sci and business colleges are a waste of money for middle class kids (paraprofessional degrees like nursing or PA aside).
And the left runs colleges...they despise the parents and live a subsidized life courtesy of the folks they hate. Screw them...end social "sciences"..
I totally agree on the college backstopping the student loans. They should have skin in the game. I think it would reduce the number of educated waitresses.
Why not 100%?
They are selling a product. If it's defective or overpriced, they should be held responsible.
So Toyota should assume all of the risk on someone's car loan?
A college education is a product. It is a product that provides advantages to those whe earn one (mostly tine, as they reach higher income levels faster than those who have to work their way up fron the bottom).
Is college overpriced? Absolutely. But the ones that don't pay off as much are schools like Penn State or Georgia, as opposed to Cal-Berkley ot Texas. Basically, if the school has a great sports team and is a state school, unless you know you want to work in that state it will not be worth it.
Get a degree from an Ivy or Stanford or MIT or CIT and you can get most jobs in most places. Get a degree (yes, even an engineering degree) from Ol' Miss or Alabama and it won't get you as far unless you are in Mississippi or Alabama.
But that information is available to consumers. Graduation rates, job placement rates, and dozens of other metrics are available. If a student chooses to spend 100k on an underwater basketweaving degree, that's their choice. Other options were available, they just didn't take advantage if them.
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More than just the major. What we are really talking about is post secondary education which can be anywhere from one to year to four years or more, count graduate studies. The question is a return on value and what we are seeing is that one and two year programs can return as much value. People in these programs will not make as much overall but they will not have spent as much either.
Corporate America and the bleating woke sheep have destroyed the value of a college education. Let it burn.
If the govt has to step in to finance it, and then step in to help pay it off, its officially not worth (and not sustainable)
Next time ask which degree. Social Work degree? Pass. Engineering degree? Cha-Ching.
One of the challenges faced by any educational system is predicting what the economy is going to need four, five, or six years down the road. I read somewhere that the "average" for obtaining a bachelor's degree is five years. The combination of a five-year commitment to one field in an ever-more-quickly changing economy does not make for an easy choice in a career, especially when many careers actually should be planned starting in high school. IIRC it was in Megatrends that Naisbitt wrote that those best-equipped to adapt to change will be the most successful. That was forty years ago.
One of the challenges faced by any educational system is predicting what the economy is going to need four, five, or six years down the road.
Its the students who need to predict. It's also pretty easy to predict. Look at the jobs paying consistently high for the past few decades.
Short version: Anything STEM.
Not ANYTHING stem.
For example, I worked with a girl who had a chemistry degree. There wasn't shit for work other than low paid lab-rat type stuff if you didn't have and advanced degree. She ended up in software, which she certainly didn't need chemistry for.
Still a better education than gender studies or whatever, but even in science you have to pick and choose for a career path.
I know a number of chemists who work in just about any other field.
Biochemistry is notorious for lack of pay.
Correct. I was a chemistry major in the mid 80s from a research university..and the only job I could get with my BS was lowly lab tech. after a few years I said bullshit and got an MBA and a real job.
Colleges shouldn't ever be teaching physical science at the undergrad level. Engineering and computer science. If one really wants a PhD in Physics or Chemistry, start with a Mech E or Chem E degree. Not all Stem is equal. Biology is a totally useless degree if you are looking for a job with a BA or BS.
"Its the students who need to predict. It’s also pretty easy to predict. Look at the jobs paying consistently high for the past few decades."
Absolutely. And who do many parents go to for advice? "Guidance counselors" is what they called them back in my days.
Only morons listened to guidance counselors unless it was a specific question for a specific general goal.
"Only morons listened to guidance counselors unless it was a specific question for a specific general goal."
I tend to agree with that. On the other hand, as most of us realize after we grow up, many, if not most teenagers are, being young and inexperienced, sort of "moronic."
If they knew anything they wouldn't be guidance counselors. Physician heal thyself.
I don't think it's all that hard. If you want to do something technical, be good at math, programming and learning how to use software and get some practical mechanical experience unless you intend to do only software. If you want to do non-technical things, learn to speak and write well. In my experience, even in engineering, you learn most of what you really need on the job.
" If you want to do non-technical things, learn to speak and write well. In my experience, even in engineering, you learn most of what you really need on the job."
Yep.
Communism FAILS again. (i.e. Commie-Education)
Why does such idiocy have to keep getting proven?
Oh yeah; The basic instinct to commit "armed-robbery" against those 'icky' people.
An English, or any liberal arts degree might not be worth much from most colleges, but if it’s from an Ivy it will get you a ticket to a high paying job or into an elite grad or professional school, not because you’re smarter or better educated-its all about the name and the connections you make there.
“An English, or any liberal arts degree might not be worth much…”
In itself, you are correct. On the other hand, specific skills, such as skills in writing, can enhance one’s “marketability” significantly. My Masters in English, which included a lot of writing courses, helped me in my position into that as a technical writer: I was hired as a clerk for local govt, but by the time I left, I was a designing and developing funding for my own programs. In short, I made the department look good.
Any degree when I was young in the 70s was not a huge financial commitment , and I was able to get my employer to pay for my MBA in the 00s. Now it's completely stupid outside of a STEM degree by which you can be assured of a reasonable return on your investment and a means to pay off the debt.
And now we have an academic system that is overbearing in its promotion of "woke" principles and shoddy "research."
A system that needs to fail spectacularly. It would be great to see former professors of bullshit vying for jobs at the local coffee shop.
Cost of college tuition and fees over time.
https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/college-costs-over-time/
$4300 (in 2023 dollars) was the average in 1963. The costs also includes room and board. I knew people who attended the University of Illinois, living at home paying way less.
In 1946 (the first year where college costs began to trend higher than incomes – because of the GI bill) at UPenn - tuition was $475 with books/fees $75. Room and board was $640. A HS graduate could earn roughly $1300 per year after a probationary period. So there were many different options – attend part-time, postpone college until some savings built up, live at home or get married, scrimp on other expenses, have employers pay for courses (though even not then – years).
In 2021, UPenn tuition was $54,650 with fees/tech/etc $6400. Room and board was $17,300. A HS graduate can earn roughly $30,000 in an urban area after probation period – but it’s very bimodal. Many employers don’t really hire HS graduates – other don’t really hire college grads – and the labor market for 18-21 years olds is quite broken now. Many options available in 1946 are no longer available. Employers no longer pay for real undergrad courses – just the one week stuff. Can’t scrimp/save with those prices. ‘Part-time’ is no longer part of the culture. Nor are 30-year olds attending 101 courses. The only option is a big debt load or wealthy parents. Where an 18 year old with no experience is forced more into full-time load and has to somehow figure out a ‘lifetime earnings’ major – when there is no such fucking thing as a ‘lifetime employer’.
DeRp’s and L’s are fucking useless at really unbundling the problems that this has become. An ‘intergenerational’ party – of like under-30’s – might have a chance but with a lot of bullshit temptations from the DeRp’s and L’s.
The problem I have with College is all of the add on classes that have nothing to do with your Major. The whole "well rounded individual" bullshit. I went for Mechanical Engineering. What in the hell does "Art Appreciation" have to do with Engineering? All these classes do is subsidize the Liberal Arts Classes that nobody takes. Then let's look at "Student Activity Fees". These are charged per credit hour and add to the cost of your degree. The College I attended used these fees to fund liberal student groups like Code Pink.
Apparently it’s an American thing, at least when I was getting my physics degree 30 years ago. Many Europeans in our Masters courses reported an additional ~ 20 hours (units) of “upper division” math (which us Americans certainly could have used) required during undergraduate studies, as opposed to all of our non-major garbage we were required to take. I can only imagine the non-major related requirement load for STEM majors now.
"What in the hell does “Art Appreciation” have to do with Engineering?"
Very little. On the other hand, I took astrophysics, chemistry, statistics, psychology, calculus, and god-know-what-else-I-can't remember to get into an degree in English.
If one has a job, or seeks a job, in an occupation which requires certain knowledge, take the class, nail it, and don't worry about the degree. I was seeking a promotion into a position which required I know a bit about chemistry, so I took a couple courses at the local community college.
What in the hell does “Art Appreciation” have to do with Engineering?
For the same reason that Leonardo da Vinci is more well-known and appreciated – dead – than you will ever be.
Quella scienza è piú utile della quale il frutto è piú comunicabile, e cosí per contrario è meno utile quella ch’è meno comunicabile. La pittura ha il suo fine comunicabile a tutte le generazioni dell’universo, perché il suo fine è subietto della virtú visiva, e non passa per l’orecchio al senso comune col medesimo modo che vi passa per il vedere – Leonardo da Vinci
Roughly – The science which is most communicable is the most useful because of that – and vice versa. Art’s purpose is to communicate through to all generations of the universe (meaning - beyond time and language). Directly through the visual sense rather than indirectly through the ears.
He wrote this in reflecting on how to best render an accurately surveyed map onto a spherical globe. His Vitruvian Man is a more comprehensible expression of Vitruvius’ views re the geometric proportions of man than everything Vitruvius wrote. da Vinci’s drawings of ideas/inventions that he never realized himself are what he communicated to future generations. And those art skills were not developed by him drawing balloons and ‘helicopters’.
Engineering isn’t about being appreciated or becoming a da Vinci.
And modern art education isn’t about turning your into a da Vinci style artist either.
You’re right. Engineers don't need to communicate now.
Unless you need a 'STEM' related education, HS and 24 consecutive months, (36 to 40 credits) followed by 24 months of compulsory military service, is really all you need.
Sounds like incelutopia.
Thank goodness my children (advanced degrees) and grandchildren get to compete economically with the disaffected slack-jaws who disdain education.
You do t have any children. You likely live in a boarding house or rent a room somewhere and work a minimum wage job. You likely work for a wealthy conservative and project your jealousy and hatred here.
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"Most Americans Don't Think a College Degree Is Worth the Cost"
Harvard doesn't need 'most Americans.' They reject 19 applicants for every one they accept.
And nobody needs a Harvard education.
Maybe, but it makes getting a lucrative job a LOT easier.
What most Americans think doesn't matter, what high school graduates think does and they are not the majority of people. If they keep spending tens of thousands a year to go to college the costs will continue to rise. And those kids have no idea what it takes to pay of $50 or $60 thousand worth of debt. Now their parents can warm them, but kids that age seldom listen to their parents. Also some have dreams of being this or that where you have to have a college degree to work in that field, like law or medicine.
In other (related) news, the core of the Democratic Party is now black people and college-educated upper-middle class whites. And those, um, liberal arts degree-holding whites have the most extreme views of all progressive issues, as well as unshakable support for all progressive narratives.
Do you think this is a coincidence? And do you think the DNC will allow anything to upset this propaganda program?
The party sure has changed since the 1990's
When our children were applying for college we insisted that they pick a profession that can’t be done remotely. We also insisted they graduate with a specific degree like teacher lawyer doctor account etc . They had to graduate with a title . We have a Doctor and a Teacher with a PHD. So for our family it was definitely worth it . It all depends on the child level of intelligence motivation. College isn’t for everyone. Especially when your major has no way of generating enough income to pay off their loans much less live .
One rule of thumb for advanced degrees: unless the area of study and department covers tuition and fees, and provides an assistantship or generous stipend--and does so routinely--then stay away. Professional programs like med school, and maybe some law schools, might be an exception.
Well, getting degrees that qualify them for overpaid government monopolies may be a decent choice in the short term, I'm not so sure about the long term.
Those are pretty shitty jobs, in particular at the levels of pay that are realistically possible when governments start balancing their budgets.
"Those are pretty shitty jobs"
Assuming those are the jobs their kids wanted and enjoy doing, they're both great jobs. True, doctor pays better than teacher, but they're both quality ways to make a living.
‘A teacher with a PhD.’………..
So your kid can go teach community college like ‘Dr, Jill’?
I have a lot of respect for education (I am 67) because on my first day working as a professional, I made more than my father who had worked for more than 30 years. I don't think it is the same today.
I don't have young children anymore and so I don't know what it is like to prepare kids today. I do know that if I were advising a young person, I would not follow the advice I was given. I would tell them to consider what they like to do, what level of skill/intelligence they have, and advise them to consider a path that allows them to pursue a career that interests them and that will provide a practical living. If they are not sure when they finish high school, I would tell them to wait and get a job till, they are sure. Don't spend money on education until you know the value you are getting back.
According to a recent poll, most Americans do not believe that a college degree is worth the cost. This may be due in part to the rise of social media and the availability of alternative educational resources online. I researched on this topic and discovered https://gradesfixer.com/free-essay-examples/effects-of-social-media/ resource which tells that social media has changed the perception of the value of a college degree. But personally, I do not support this point because I love to study.