A Town Without Zoning Fights To Stay Free
In Caroline, New York, officials are trying to impose the city's first zoning code. These residents won't have it.

At the end of 2021, John Morse hoped he could breathe a well-earned sigh of relief after two very tough years.
The pandemic had pushed Celebrations—the wedding venue he and his wife Laurie had owned and operated for the past two decades in rural Caroline, New York—to the brink of ruin. But with public health restrictions disappearing fast, and brides and grooms planning nuptials once again, Morse and his wife were ready to resume business.
"We have a beautiful piece of property. But we're not a castle on the lake with marble columns," he says. "There [are] wedding venues out there that are booked three, four years in advance. That's not us. We've always had to work hard for the business that we have."
Morse hoped that 2022 would be a normal, relatively drama-free year. That hope was dashed in November, when a little blue postcard arrived in the mail. The card was from Caroline's zoning commission, which was inviting him to an informational meeting on its draft zoning code.
The postcard took Morse completely by surprise. He wasn't aware that the town had a zoning commission. Indeed, Caroline had no zoning code to speak of.
That makes it an extreme outlier in the United States.
Almost every other community in the country has a zoning code that assigns each property in town to a zoning district and then lays out a long list of rules describing the kinds of buildings and activities allowed (or not allowed) there.
Proponents see zoning as an uncontroversial means of keeping glue factories away from homes, keeping strip clubs away from schools, and generally protecting those things everyone likes: open space, property values, the environment, and more.
But ever-mounting home prices, and a growing number of stifled small business owners, are prompting a critical rethink of just how useful or necessary this mess of red tape and regulation really is.
Once an afterthought, zoning has become the hot-button issue in city halls and state capitals across the country. The debate is increasingly about how best to liberalize the rules that are on the books.
But in Caroline, that national debate is now playing out in reverse.
This was ostensibly a dispute about traffic, environmental protection, sightlines, and neighborhood character. It quickly became a conflict over class and class aesthetics. The pro-zoning residents were, in many cases, current and former employees of nearby Cornell University. They had a very specific vision of what the town should look like, and that vision often clashed with what people were doing, or might one day do, with their property. If Caroline's special character needed legal protections or legal limits on landowners' property rights, then so be it.
For Morse, however, the freedom to do what he wants on his own land is what makes Caroline special. Far from protecting the town's character, zoning is a threat to it. He's not the only one to feel this way.
After receiving the blue postcard, he started to call around to other businesses in the area to see what they'd heard and what they were thinking. "Most didn't know about it, none of them wanted it," says Morse. "People are going to lose their freedoms on their properties."
Within a few weeks, he'd helped organize a coalition of hundreds of Caroline farmers, business owners, builders, and ordinary residents who saw nothing but threats to their plans and freedoms in the proposed zoning code.
Their opposition would turn what could have been a dry planning exercise into a high-stakes, often highly emotional fight. For many anti-zoners, it was a struggle that was about a lot more than simple politics. On road signs and at frigid winter protests, they've been repeating a refrain and a motto: "Zoning kills dreams."
Saying No
Whether to adopt a zoning code has become a debate that's consumed the whole of Caroline. The debate was sparked by a dispute over a single property.
That property was an unused patch of farmland belonging to Ken Miller, a hay farmer and Marine veteran who owns about 30 acres of land in town.
In 2019, Miller was approached by real estate firm Franklin Land Associates, which asked if he'd be willing to sell some of his acreage for a potential commercial development.
"Things were pretty tight when they came to us," Miller tells Reason. The always-precarious farming business was getting harder and harder to manage for the septuagenarian Miller, both financially and physically. He'd recently had knee surgery and had been working at a nearby hardware store to help make ends meet.
His situation is common for many farmers in the area. Agricultural consolidation, particularly in the dairy business, has made most small, locally owned farms unprofitable. A way these farmers manage to stay in business is by selling off some of their marginal acreage for development. That gives them enough money to pay their property taxes while still keeping their prime farmland under plow.
That was Miller's plan. If Franklin was willing to pay commercial real estate prices for the land, he'd even be able to retire with a bit of a nest egg. He and his wife could afford to take long-deferred trips together.
The trouble for Miller was that the ultimate party interested in his land was also a controversial one: Dollar General.
The low-cost grocery store is a fixture in poorer rural areas, where it's often the only food store around. For the people who shop there, it can be an essential source of daily necessities. Having one in Caroline would save people the need to drive farther to shop at a store that was more expensive.
Dollar General has also attracted a lot of criticism for driving out local competitors, selling unhealthy food, paying low wages, and generally diminishing an area's character. These criticisms, particularly that last one, resonated with one set of Caroline residents.
For most of its 200-year history, Caroline has been a small agricultural town. But a large segment of its population is current or former faculty and staff at Cornell University, located just up the road in nearby Ithaca.
Many of these residents like Caroline precisely because it doesn't have lots of chain stores and commercial strips. They saw in Dollar General a harbinger of future suburban sprawl they had moved to town to avoid. And they were determined to stop it.
In February 2020, Franklin, under contract to buy Miller's land, submitted the necessary documents to the town government to get approval for a Dollar General.
While Caroline doesn't have a zoning code, it does have a comprehensive plan—sort of a vision document for the town—that calls for protecting local businesses and farmland. It also has a review board that is tasked with ensuring larger developments conform to that comprehensive plan.
On the board at the time of Franklin's application was Ellen Harrison, an environmental scientist and former director of a waste management institute at Cornell. She said Franklin's proposal for a large commercial development presented a major dilemma. Dollar General wasn't a local business and it would be paving over existing farmland.
"I could not affirm that it was consistent with the comprehensive plan….I couldn't say yes," she says. "On the other hand, I couldn't say no. Without zoning, there is no way to say no."
Harrison says that the Dollar General proposal served as something of a wake-up call for many residents, who felt they had to act fast if they were going to keep the store and others like it out of town.
The March 2020 meeting where the review board would consider the Dollar General was canceled because of COVID-19. By April, the town board was drafting a development moratorium that would halt approvals of any commercial projects for 180 days. In June 2020, the town board approved the moratorium.
Town Supervisor Mark Witmer, an ornithologist and occasional Cornell lecturer, stressed to the local Tompkins Weekly paper at the time that the moratorium wasn't about the Dollar General per se. Rather, it was about giving the town breathing room to finish a comprehensive plan update that was underway.
Still, an undeniable effect of the moratorium was that the Dollar General in Caroline was effectively dead.
Franklin Land Associates certainly felt that its project was being singled out. An April 2020 letter from the firm's lawyers to Witmer called the moratorium "stupefying" and potentially illegal.
It was a big loss for Miller too, who had to forfeit the $150,000 he would have gotten from selling his land. The fight took a heavy toll on his and his wife's relationship with some of their neighbors, several of whom had signed a petition opposing the Dollar General.
"We were hurt, and we were hurt financially. That's a lot of money," he says.
The moratorium also presented a problem for the town's growth critics. The building freeze was only supposed to last 180 days while a new comprehensive plan was finalized. But it wasn't as if that plan was going to stop future Dollar Generals. For that, the town needed zoning.
So in December, the town board extended the moratorium for another 180 days. It's since been extended twice more and won't lapse until May. In January 2021, the updated comprehensive plan was finally adopted. And in February, the town board voted to create a zoning commission to get to work drafting a zoning code.
Drafting Errors
Over the next two years, the Caroline zoning commission's draft code would go through lots of tweaks and revision. But the substance remained largely unchanged.
The plan was to separate the town into three types of districts.
Caroline's pockets of existing development were to be zoned as "hamlets" where housing, home businesses, and limited commercial uses were allowed. There would also be a "focused commercial" district where formula retail (a.k.a. chain stores), storage facilities, and other larger businesses would be permitted. Then the vast majority of the town's land was grouped into a rural/agriculture district where both residential development and nonfarm businesses were strictly curtailed.
For the people on the zoning commission, this represented a well-crafted balance between protecting the town from rampant development and letting people use their land as they always had.
"We are trying to craft a zoning plan that is appropriate for Caroline that puts some important safeguards in place but does not put undue burdens on land owners," says Bill Podulka, a retired physicist at Cornell and member of Caroline's zoning commission.
In relative terms, the 137-page draft code is a lot simpler than what you might find in a major city, where the zoning code runs for thousands of pages and creates dozens of special districts.
Caroline's draft code was nevertheless 137 pages of regulations that didn't exist before.
"When you look at the restrictions that come into play, there's a whole giant table of what you're allowed to have or [not] have," Morse says. "You can have this kind of business because we like it, you can't have this kind of business because we don't like it."
One thing Morse had always planned for his business was building rental cabins on a vacant field he owned next to his venue, where wedding parties could stay after the ceremony. But "campgrounds" are flatly prohibited in the focused commercial area that would cover his property.
As Morse got out the word about the zoning code, more people realized their own plans for their land would be banned or subject to a lot more rules going forward.
That included Hannah Wylie, whose family had maintained a 1,000-acre farm in Caroline for the past 175 years. One idea her family had to prop up their always-precarious ag business would be setting aside some unfarmable land for a small campground or R.V. park.
Today, Wylie could just go ahead and do that. Under the draft zoning code, she'd have to get a special use permit. And that's no small order.
Getting that permit would require Wylie to file applications with the town's review board, which would hold a public hearing, where neighbors would have an opportunity to come complain about the project. After a hearing, the board would have months to decide whether Wylie's campground would disturb the character of the neighborhood, be consistent with the comprehensive plan, damage the environment, impact adjacent property owners, or strain public services. At the end of that process, the board could put a lot of expensive conditions on the proposed campground to mitigate its impact on that long list of things. Or the board could just say no.
Podulka stresses that the review process isn't intended to be a roadblock.
"Review doesn't mean you can't do it, it just means a meeting, or two, or three, yes," he says. "You may or may not have to make some adjustments to meet some of the desires of the rest of the community."
Wylie says that the time and expense of the review process could be enough to deter her from even applying for a permit in the first place. She could end up spending a few hundred (or a few thousand) dollars and several months getting permission to start a business that might not work.
Without the ability to easily and cheaply experiment with new ideas, her family's continued operation and ownership of their farmland was imperiled.
"We have something so beautiful to take care of and we'd like to keep it," she says.
Planning boards and commissions that enforce zoning laws unsurprisingly often become dominated by people who have pretty restrictive views of what people should be allowed to do on their properties.
Caroline already got a taste of that when the town stopped the Dollar General project.
The town's anti-zoning activists like to point out that the store would have been built just a few hundred yards from a review board member's property, which they say is evidence of how personalized these things can become.
"You have to ask permission from people you don't like and who don't like you," says Bruno Schickel, a local developer and member of Caroline's anti-zoning coalition.
Even when personal feelings or self-interest don't creep into the zoning process, unintended consequences will still abound, Schickel argues.
He gives the example of the village of Boiceville he's built in Caroline, a development of 140 closely spaced, fairytalelike tiny homes whose design was inspired by the children's book Miss Rumphius.
The clustered development of the cottages means Boiceville shelters about 10 percent of Caroline's population on just 40 acres. The economical use of land and lack of entitlement costs also keeps Boiceville more affordable than it otherwise would be.
In many ways, Boiceville is in keeping with the spirit of much of Caroline's draft zoning code, which calls for the preservation of open space and affordable housing. The village's design would be prohibited by the letter of the code, which limits residential development in rural areas to an average of one dwelling unit per three acres. If Boiceville were built today, it would have to consume 10 times as much land. The more land development requires, the more it ends up costing.
As 2022 wore on, the zoning commission continued its work of refining its draft code. Meanwhile, in the town, anti-zoning residents spun up a guerrilla activist campaign against the commission's work.
Signs went up declaring "Zoning Kills Dreams," "Grandma Hates Zoning," "Caroline Forever Unzoned," and so on. Residents held protests at the town hall where farmers brought their horses painted with similar anti-zoning slogans.
It would all get pretty personal pretty quickly in the small town.
When Harrison put up a sign supporting zoning in her yard, she says someone defecated on it. The Ithaca Voice reported that the chair of the zoning commission received an emailed death threat.
On the flip side, anti-zoning residents argued that the zoning commissioners and town board members were being openly contemptuous of their concerns and flatly unwilling to listen.
The town board, they noted, stuck to Zoom meetings in a town where many residents didn't have high-speed internet.
During one meeting where anti-zoning residents invoked their families' long history in the town, a zoning commission member* said she was sick of hearing about people's heritage. In response, Wylie put up a road sign saying, "Piss on zoning, not our heritage."
When anti-zoning people raised general concerns about zoning, they were told by pro-zoners they needed to be specific about their complaints. When they did raise specific concerns about the draft zoning code, the response was often that it was only a draft and the offending provisions might not end up being included. Anti-zoning activists could be forgiven for feeling gaslighted.
The pro- and anti-zoning camps generally grafted onto preexisting political differences. Supporters of the draft code skewed liberal, while the town's conservatives were more likely to oppose it.
The class dynamic of the zoning fight nevertheless scrambled these neat partisan lines. The anti-zoning coalition included folks like Morse, whose wedding venue was hosting a fundraiser for a crisis pregnancy center the week this reporter was there. It also included Tonya VanCamp, a nonprofit worker, whose home sported a gay pride flag and a "Black Lives Matter" sign. Both were united by a fear of what zoning would prevent them from doing with their single biggest asset—their land.
On the flip side, people who might have made common cause with the anti-zoners in different circumstances decided to stay on the sidelines. Sara Bronin, a Cornell law professor who founded the zoning reform group Desegregate CT, said in an email she was approached about getting involved in Caroline's debate but declined.
The town's debate had less to do with the specifics of a zoning code, and more to do with "rural stubbornness," she wrote.
Yet the hypothetical concerns opponents of zoning were raising were also critiques that a growing number of academics, policy wonks, and activists were making about the very real effects of zoning in communities across the country. Caroline's seemingly parochial fight brought the town into a very national conversation.
Straitjackets
Caroline's pro-zoning officials and residents frequently complained that the town's zoning critics were exaggerating how burdensome the draft code was, when they even bothered to raise specific complaints at all.
The anti-zoners' objections all seemed reasonable enough to Nolan Gray.
Gray doesn't live in Caroline. He lives in Los Angeles, where he works as research director for the housing advocacy group California YIMBY. (He's also an occasional contributor to Reason.)
It's one of the organizations to grow out of the original "yes in my backyard" (YIMBY) movement of San Francisco Bay Area residents who got fed up with spending more and more of their money on increasingly scarce housing. Beginning in the mid-2010s, they launched a crusade against the zoning restrictions they blamed for the Golden State's astronomical rents and home prices.
YIMBYs face an uphill battle in most American cities, where long and extensive zoning codes ban apartment buildings across most of the city. The movement has nevertheless won over a lot of converts in these expensive cities with a message that housing would be cheaper if it were legal to build more of it.
Policy makers across the country are increasingly talking like they agree with that idea, and even adopting policy reforms designed to allow for more building.
Three states, including California, so far have passed laws legalizing at least duplexes statewide. A handful of other states will probably follow suit this year. Joe Biden's White House has called out restrictive zoning laws in strong terms. (Its actual policies don't do much to address the problem.)
Gray himself wrote a book on why zoning shouldn't just be liberalized, but abolished completely. That's a radical position, even within the larger YIMBY movement. It can seem hopelessly utopian when one considers how expansive and restrictive the average city's zoning code already is.
But it's a message that resonated in Caroline, where residents don't live under zoning now and many want to keep it that way.
After discovering Gray's book, some of the town's anti-zoning activists reached out and asked if he'd take a look at Caroline's proposed draft code. What Gray saw was a restrictive mess that would bring to Caroline problems that zoning had created everywhere else.
"It's untethered from any actual impact that's facing Caroline," he says.
The code's requirements for site plan review and special use permits would be incredibly burdensome for the low-impact small businesses that would likely open in the town. The minimum lot sizes and density restrictions would drive up housing costs. Even if a restriction wasn't in the code now, it could easily be added later.
"Once these codes are adopted, it's a one-way ratchet that only gets stricter, that only gets more exclusionary, that puts jurisdictions in a tighter and tighter straitjacket," says Gray.
At the invitation of Caroline's anti-zoners, Gray went out to the town in November 2022 to make the case for why adopting zoning would be a mistake.
The night before the 2022 midterms, he gave a presentation to a packed community center where he laid out the general case against zoning and what it would do to Caroline specifically.
He pulled up a map of the town dotted with red-colored parcels. Members of the audience gasped when he explained that each red parcel was a property that would be made nonconforming by the draft code. That meant even minor changes to the property would have to go through site plan review and more substantial expansions or changes of use might be banned entirely.
Next, he brought up pictures of businesses and buildings in town, and explained how the draft zoning code would make their various features illegal too.
"So much of what's in this code is stuff other cities are trying to get rid of," said Gray during his talk. Caroline needn't make the same mistakes.
Gray's talk was meant to be a calm presentation of zoning's problems. It quickly became a venting session for the assembled crowd of mostly anti-zoning residents.
The first question in a Q&A session was from one man who asked Gray what the penalties would be for "civil disobedience" with the zoning code. Another woman asked whether you could keep zoning code officers off your property if they didn't have a warrant.
When Katherine Goldberg, a town board member considered to be a moderate on the zoning code, stood up to urge people to trust the process, she received angry shouts from people in the room.
Caroline's anti-zoning activists had planned to have Gray speak during public comment at the town board meeting a few days later. That meeting was abruptly canceled just before his visit. The explanation was that Witmer, the pro-zoning town supervisor, was taking a long-planned trip to Hawaii but had neglected to inform the town clerk ahead of time.
For anti-zoning residents, it was just one more piece of evidence that their government was totally uninterested in hearing their concerns.
On the night of the now-canceled board meeting, they braved the freezing cold weather to make their case heard in front of the empty town hall.
Morse got in front of the crowd and hoisted a thick petition of 1,200 signatures demanding that any vote on a zoning code be delayed until after Caroline's 2023 municipal elections. Zoning was not what people wanted, he said.
Next came Schickel, who earned cheers when he informed the crowd that two anti-zoning town board candidates had won their election in the nearby town of Hector, which was having a similar fight over whether to adopt a zoning code.
The crowd periodically broke out in chants of "no zoning." Some of the people in the back cracked open beers. Across the street, a large trailer bore a huge display of lights and illuminated letters reading, "Caroline Forever Unzoned."
It was an oddly emotional scene for a rally about zoning.
Most people save their passionate advocacy for things like abortion or gun control, not special use permits and setback requirements. The general view of zoning as a dry, technical, apolitical issue is one reason it's persisted unquestioned for so long. That probably explains why Caroline's officials were blindsided by the massive counterreaction to their zoning code proposal. To this day, it seems like they don't quite understand the emotions they've kicked up.
One person at the town hall rally who did understand them was Amy Dickinson, even if she thought some of the anger expressed by anti-zoners wasn't always productive.
Dickinson is a nationally syndicated advice columnist who makes a living helping people work through interpersonal problems. She's also married to Schickel, and like her husband, she's dead set against zoning.
Dickinson grew up on a dairy farm in a nearby town where, like in Caroline, most of the farms gradually went out of business. For farmers losing their livelihood, the ability to hold onto their property and leave it to their children becomes all the more important, she explained. So, the idea that the town would then slap a bunch of rules on the one thing you do still control was both threatening and offensive.
"People take it personally," she says. "Your land is all you have."
Zoning Kills Dreams
Houston, Texas, is the one major city in the United States that never adopted a zoning code. Three times Houston has put zoning up to a referendum, and three times voters have rejected it.
In Gray's anti-zoning book, Arbitrary Lines, there's a picture of a Houston activist during one referendum campaign marching with a sign that reads "Zoning Kills Dreams." It's a message that would become Caroline anti-zoners' rallying cry, much to the frustration of those who support zoning.
"There's a sign that says 'Zoning Kills Dreams.' Well, what is the dream you have that you think is not allowed? They don't say," says Harrison, the review board member.
It speaks to a difference in mentality and material circumstances of the two sides.
Caroline's zoning supporters are typically either active or retired professionals. They live in the town and love it as much as anyone. But they also have no need to make a living there. It's a position that lends itself to more restrictive notions of what should be allowed in Caroline: some homes, some businesses, some farms, and a lot of protected views and open space.
For them, a zoning code is a pretty straightforward way of protecting the things they like about Caroline while banning the things they think will spoil it. And if anti-zoners are worried about losing the ability to do something on their land, they should say as much, and come to the table to get protections included in the draft code.
Things aren't so simple for Caroline's anti-zoners. The necessity of making a living from their land means they have to be pretty open and adaptable to change. They often don't know what the future will bring. It's impossible for them to say how they might want to use their properties in the future.
Morse notes that his wedding venue had a couple of slow years right before the pandemic. If business dries up, he'll have no choice but to sell Celebrations and move on. The more restrictions a zoning code puts on the use of his property, the fewer buyers there will be for it. That will tank the sale price of his land, leaving him with less to start a new business or retire on.
Freedom to do what he wants on his property is a valuable asset all on its own, and that freedom can't coexist with zoning.
Caroline's zoning debate is ongoing. The zoning commission is currently holding public hearings on their final draft code. They will then make a report to the town board, which will make the ultimate decision about whether to adopt it.
New York state law forbids zoning from being put before voters as a referendum. Peter Hoyt, a former town board member who opposes zoning, tells Reason that if a referendum were possible, it would probably be a pretty close vote.
Whatever the outcome, the zoning debate raging in Caroline is revealing. It shows how even in a small community without major enterprises or serious growth pressures, planners can't adequately capture and account for everything people might want to do with their land.
There's a gap between what zoners can do and what they imagine they can design. That knowledge problem hasn't stopped cities far larger and more complex than Caroline from trying to scientifically sort themselves with zoning. They've developed quite large and complex problems as a result.
Caroline's anti-zoners see the problems zoning has created elsewhere and want none of it in their town. They're committed to fighting tooth and nail to preserve a freedom the rest of the country has lost.
They have dreams, and zoning might kill them.
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Zoning laws are a perfect example of how excessive government control happens incrementally, with each step being a seemingly reasonable assertion of governmental power. The original justification for zoning's constitutionality was that it fell under the government's police power, meaning that it was only to be used to undo or prevent situations from happening where dangerous or unhealthy industrial operations, like steel mills and slaughterhouses, were located in areas with people who were not equipped to be exposed to those dangers. But over time, that seemingly reasonable application of the police power has morphed into one that is used to prevent people from using their property as they see fit because some of those uses are simply disfavored by others when they do not present an actual danger to the public.
I think it's time that lawyers start making the case that zoning laws whose only purpose is to "maintain the character" of a community are unconstitutional uses of the police power. Maintaining the character of the community, which is really just code for keeping house prices artificially high and undesirables out. has nothing to do with keeping people safe and healthy.
which is really just code for keeping house prices artificially high and undesirables out
Who are you to police their perception of their home values? Seems like if the prices were artificially high, it's up to the buyers to send them that message. If the buyers are willing to pay, who are you to police them as well?
This is astoundingly tone deaf in the background of SVB.
Buyers aren't an undifferentiated mass. Every person within the demand population has a price that they are willing to pay for X. The price being paid here isn't for a "house"; it's instead for a "house in a closed community." I'm sure there are many people who are willing to pay a premium to reside in a community like that. But if owners were allowed to use their property as they saw fit, some of the land in those communities might start being used for disfavored purposes. If so, the value of the housing stock would likely initially fall as the remaining homeowners would find it difficult to sell to others willing to pay that premium for a "house in a closed community," when the community is no longer closed.
So the price is artificially high in the sense that the property owners are using the force of law to prevent that closed community from becoming an open one.
Buyers aren’t an undifferentiated mass.
I didn't say they weren't. In fact, I specifically said there may be buyers that were willing to buy into a community with standards and that your assertion about was more artificial and ex cathedra than theirs.
Further, as you indicated, land use isn't some undifferentiated mass either. Some land use presents actual hazards (well) outside the property line and some doesn't.
So the price is artificially high in the sense that the property owners are using the force of law to prevent that closed community from becoming an open one.
The community is currently open. The article itself notes that the Council *and* Morse's value decisions are TBD but, somehow, you've determined they're values are artificial, and not your projections, before any gain or loss has been actualized.
I was not talking about the town in the article, which does not as yet have such restrictive zoning laws. I was talking about communities that do have such laws (i.e. closed ones).
I was not talking about the town in the article, which does not as yet have such restrictive zoning laws.
OK. I fully concur that the property values of the town in your head are artificially high.
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“The original justification for zoning’s constitutionality was that it fell under the government’s police power, ” There was never a need for constitutional justification of zoning laws. It was always true that municipalities had that power. "it was only to be used to undo or prevent situations from happening where dangerous or unhealthy industrial operations, like steel mills and slaughterhouses, were located in areas with people who were not equipped to be exposed to those dangers. " Wow, are you ever delusional.
Land use restrictions weren't created by zoning laws, they were merely formalized and documented by it. Prior to incorporating them into zoning laws, they were implemented through tort law, precedent, and covenants. In urban and suburban settings, you always had to and have to take into account how your land use affects your neighbors.
Even Rome and medieval Europe had land use restrictions and laws similar to zoning: commercial and residential districts, restrictions on specific trades, setbacks, height restrictions, etc.
This is why I hate the phrase "Is this really the hill you want to die on?" People extend government power by increments. To extend the metaphor they take over a whole mountain range by dividing it into a series of tiny hills, each one of which is not that valuable by itself, but combined is everything.
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The dream of not having to ask permission from someone else to use my property as I see fit.
You can realize that dream if you buy 100+ acres outside densely populated areas.
For as long as there have been towns and cities, if you build within their limits, you had to live with land use restrictions.
That's not how New York works. There is no unincorporated land. If you're in NY you're in a town or city.
Well, then don't buy in NY!
If the good people of NY want to live in an overregulated, authoritarian, socialist hellhole, that's their right and privilege.
If you don't want to live like that, don't live there!
Looks like the hoi palloi are determined to gentrify Caroline to preserve the "character" they did not help create. As the author points out, many of them don't have to make a living in Caroline. I went through a zoning appeal on a commercial property I owned in a tiny village in Illinois. The zoning rules rival a Tolstoy novel in wordage. The bottom line is that if you're not well connected to the local old boy network you're probably wasting your time. Zoning rules exist so that virtually any change to your property can be either denied or made to be prohibitively expensive.
Looks like the hoi palloi are determined to gentrify Caroline to preserve the “character” they did not help create. As the author points out, many of them don’t have to make a living in Caroline.
IMO, zoning is one of those things that's a relative non-issue from libertarians. Specifically because of this.
I grew up in sparsely populated farmland. I can tell you for a fact, from multiple angles that the empty farmland with a barn or old farmhouse sitting on it did not build Caroline. The people working at Cornell certainly didn't put any sweat equity into building Caroline, but the young brides and grooms showing up at Morse's place aren't showing up because they just happened to be driving through the rural countryside and happened to decide to get married. And, again, I say this as someone who worked on a farm that's now an agritourist business. Who's brother got married in a picturesque Church just outside a University town.
I certainly don't agree with the palloi telling the plebs of Caroline what to do, but it sounds like the plebs aren't having any trouble making themselves heard. And as far as the rest of us are concerned, it may as well be a popcorn show.
"Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. The Robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may, at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C.S. Lewis
Who are the tormentors here? The Celebrations wedding venue saying the Dollar General Store should be allowed to go in Not In Their Back Yard? The Town Council (composed partially/entirely of Cornell Elites) trying to preserve the scenery that attracts people to the Celebrations venue? The Dollar General Store trying to bring cheap goods to a community shuttered during the pandemic and where goods are hard to come by?
Local story. Hard cases. This is not the zoning story or stories that you're looking for.
Yes, the tormenters are, in fact, the people trying to impose a zoning code and prohibit things they dislike. It's a bunch of tony left-wingers who dislike corporations and free enterprise trying to impose their values on everyone else in town. If the former marine sells some of his land to Dollar General and that somehow drives away the folks who would otherwise patronize Celebrations, that's going to suck for Celebrations, but as the article mentions, if there isn't a restrictive zoning code, then the guy who owns it will likely get a better price for his property, because the new buyers would have the option to do a wider variety of things on it. The irony that a bunch of lefties are doing this is that it's effectively gentrification, which they so commonly lament.
Yes, you make it very clear every time zoning comes up that you're a fan of it. I understand your argument in favor of retaining those sorts of limitations that people bought property in an area under, expecting that they would be maintained. This is the opposite situation, where people bought property *without* restrictions, and are now attempting to impose them.
There are already plenty of places that have lots of zoning. The people who are into that should feel free to go to one of those places instead of trying to impose that limitation on people who are not currently so burdened.
but as the article mentions
The article also notes, "They often don't know what the future will bring."
"Founding" of Caroline: 1811
"Founding" of Town Council: 1811?
"Founding" of Cornell: 1865
"Founding" of Miller's Farm: 1990(ish?)
"Founding" of Celebrations: 2000(ish)
"Founding" of Dollar General: TBD
I'm not in favor of zoning by default. I just frequently see that it's not a de facto mandate from debt-fueled elites in DC, nor that it necessarily hurts land owners by default *nor* that they don't turn right around and use it to defend their property rights.
I have land interests that I want to see develop and increase in value. I've worked for employers who were denied land permits for intended use that I found desirable and would be profitable. The same Employers who sat on Town and Village boards and otherwise ruled against land owners who had held land for generations longer than the employers/board had. I've gone to Church with land owners who voted in favor of development in anticipation of raising their land values only to discover that low-lit development attracted transient meth addicts who like to steal cars or even thousand-gallon tanks of anhydrous ammonia from nearby rural farms. I've favored local developments at the ballot box directly by opposing long time land owners trying to impose zoning arbitrarily.
If we're going to go straight homesteading/first claim and the expectations that flow from it libertarianism, the facts in the article are clearly lacking. Otherwise, the future is nebulous, the value of any given action at this level is speculative, and this isn't the libertarian story you're looking for. Cut spending on student loans so that there are fewer Cornell admins on any given local Council? Sure. Forbid people who've lived in the area of a University for generations because they work for the University even if they are working in accordance with the charter because someone else moved in a decade ago and started a business? You're not fighting oppression here.
This is not the libertarian story you're looking for.
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"Miller’s Farm: 1990" The author was bald face lying that there is a miller farm. 30 acres (Some of it not fit for farming anything) is half of a field. And Hay is the least profitable crop imaginable. (It's essentially indistinguishable from letting a field be fallow to recuperate its fertility.) Even in my childhood in the '70s you needed a minimum of 200 acres to make a living as a farmer. And the amount of land you need to farm to make a go of it doubles every 25 years. The actual farmer mentioned was struggling with a thousand acres.
IDK that it was bald faced lying. There's certainly some narrative-crafting going on to suggest that this issue is perceived as strictly Town Council vs. Yokels.
As stated in the article, people who own farmland sell off parcels for income. It could be that 30 acres is all that’s left.
The only farm I saw mentioned in conjunction with a time was the Wylie farm, at 175 years. So if Miller is a relative newcomer, maybe that makes a difference, and maybe it doesn't, given that just like the folks who sought out an HOA gated community, he bought somewhere there weren't zoning codes. I don't see why a bunch of other people should be allowed to impose them on him. Not that it functionally matters to me anyway, since I'm never going to live in NY.
In my view zoning is in conflict with a libertarian utopia but also possibly a necessary evil. I am a great believer in private property rights. The right to own and use your property as you choose is a fundamental natural right. On the other hand if your neighbor exercises his right to to use his property as a toxic waste dump he limits the use and value of yours. I don't know the answer to this conundrum but I don't trust government to solve it. As noted in the article, the people who end up making the rules aren't interested in the dreary and tiresome property rights of individuals. They are interested in a grand scheme of property use based on their personal prejudices. The answer, it would seem, is run for office and displace them or get out of their jurisdiction. I chose the latter.
I live and work in this area. I also went to the university there. You can bet that all the professors and others think that there are a higher class and know better than the “local yokels” what should be done to keep the village just as they wanted and screw anyone else. Most of them wouldn’t be caught dead in any sort of local business and could care less what happens to those noisy smelly farms. They want the locals to bow down and listen to what’s good for them or else. I hope Caroline residents fight this tooth and nail.
As you drive into nearby Ithaca you will see a sign warning that zoning rules are enforced.
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Control freaks have dreams, too.
How dare these people protest when the government wants to tell them what they may or may not do with their own property? That's so libertine!
Poor sarc. So many ideas…….
Even worse, they might be followers of Ron Paul!
"Current and former employees of Cornell University" says it all. In short," We liberals are going to show you ignorant backwoods rubes how to run a town. We know what's best for you and you don't." The next thing that happens in Caroline will be gay pride day and LGBTQXYZ123 celebrations, the local library will host drag queen story hour for five year olds and certain required speech concerning fake women.
Up here in Northern Michigan, the town of Charlevoix rejected a proposal to build a WalMart, fearing it would decimate the local businesses. A few year later the K Mart closed its doors. The downtown area is for the most part resort oriented shops and stores.
Another tiny village nearby shut down efforts to build a Dollar General Store. Every small town and village up here has a Dollar General. yes, they have become a bit of a blight but they provide some relief from ever rising prices for consumer goods . I know one that sells fresh fruits and veggies.
The one thing I have problems with are those who move out of the large urban areas downstate and into the small villages up here and then try to duplicate what they left behind. Politically and economically it's just not possible.
Who voted for the Town Council? This seems like a very straightforward problem to deal with at the ballot box.
i think that is why they mention that one thing the anti-zoners are asking is that the vote on the code not be done until AFTER the next election for the town council. it sounds like the question of zoning was not on the radar when the council was last elected.
"Who voted for the Town Council?" People who aren't imbeciles is the obvious answer.
It's obvious the Cornell elite mentioned nothing about zoning when they ran for town council but you can be rest assured it was on their agenda.
when you're going to fuck someone over, you don't warn them ahead of time.
"Proponents see zoning as an uncontroversial means of keeping glue factories away from homes, strip clubs away from schools . . . "
So how did we get strip clubs INSIDE the schools?
It's not in the zoning code, duh.
Give them time. It comes right after the drag show room.
Why are you so mind-boggling stupid as to think we have strip shows inside schools. If you're referring to drag shows, they have nothing common with strip shows. Back in the 50s drag shows were a standard part of the ed sullivan show that your grandparents absolutely adored.
Umm no. I was born in the fifties. Ed Sullivan did not feature dudes in thongs shaking their asses in the faces of 5 year old kids.
Rubbish. Ed Sullivan had no such thing . The last thing you would see on television back then were nearly naked men with their dicks hanging out in front of school children.
Ed Sullivan featured Elvis, but only from the waist up - the hip gyrations were too suggestive.
Pretty obvious that memyselfandi is full of shit.
I think he's thinking of Jim Bailey.
To be fair, my kids have yet to be subjected to any strip shows in school, either.
Though I'm sure they would survive. Kids are also capable of feeling disgust, after all.
Up next. Glue factory story hour.
Just tweak the proposed code to prohibit current and past employees of Cornell from living or working in the town.
Then, next election, vote in a board that will eliminate zoning again.
Or just take the Virginia flag to heart.
Probably the most interesting thing about this story is that it's not too local.
“The town's debate had less to do with the specifics of a zoning code, and more to do with "rural stubbornness,"”
Those hick yokels should shut up and just leave these decisions to their Ivy League betters
Property rights are unalienable and protected by the Bill of Rights and federal law title 18 sections 241 and 242.
You cannot lose your property rights unless you have been convicted of a crime. Zoning is an illegal infringement of property rights.
Call the sheriff, elect a judge and jury and punish these fuckers for conspiracy. What more is there to debate?
You sound like the kind of alt-right, MAGA, conspiracy theory, nutcase that thinks "shall not be infringed" means 'they' can't infringe your rights.
Nope. I'm far more rabid.
I'm the sort of libertarian nut job who believes they will infringe and that we have a duty to alter or abolish them when they do.
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"Shall not be infringed" is only a suggestion to the left wing extremists now in power. That is, their power shall not be infringed.
All law is only a suggestion until we are willing to impose it by force.
Property rights under US law refers to the rights that have been recognized under English law for a long time. And, I'm sorry to have to tell you, that has customarily included restrictions on land use, building regulations, etc. These didn't get invented in 20th century America, they go back to at least Roman times, and probably to the very first cities.
Our founders fought a war to distance their families from English law with respect to property rights.
The entire point of the American experiment is individual property rights and the direct repudiation of old English property law.
These restrictions such as zoning and the property tax are the result of the Civil war and the creation of the soviet style Union under the despot, Lincoln.
"Our founders fought a war to distance their families from English law with respect to property rights." Your ignorance is near 100%.
All talk and no substance. You bitch but refute nothing and offer no alternatives.
If you cannot own yourself, your own moniker is a lie.
By what right do you address me?
You're the lying POS who claimed Ed Sullivan had drag acts on his program; why should anyone believe a single word you post?
Yeah, that's what an ignoramus like you actually believes.
"Borders are just imagination"-type disputes probably carried a lot more weight before Euclid invented geometry as we know it.
Pretty sure geometry was already there before he discovered it.
Tell it to Archimedes, Riemann, and Lobachevsky.
Zoning regulations predated the application of the bill of rights to state and local governments.
"Zoning regulations predated the application of the bill of rights to state and local governments."
So does Prima Nocta in merry ole England.
Yup. There was a reason why we imposed our Constitution upon the goons. I propose we do so again.
Starting with this goon?
This is a prime example why not to live in incorporated areas.
" . . . suburban sprawl they had moved to town to avoid."
These folks are the suburban sprawl.
DING DING DING!
But they're the *right* kind of sprawl, donchaknow?
Someone should tell them that what they're doing is gentrification.
Maybe mix in a couple of accusations of 'white flight' for good measure?
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They might even be appropriating someone's lifestyle.
These folks are the suburban sprawl.
All of them. Virtually guaranteed. Without NYC or Buffalo, the people of Caroline would get married in Churches, rather than the Celebrations venue, like they did in 1811 when Caroline was 'founded' and there would be too few weddings to support an independent venue.
Worth noting that the land original land on which Cornell actually sits was donated by Ezra Cornell, who was raised in The Bronx before The Bronx was ceded to New York County.
The bronx was never ceded to new york county. You might clue into that by the fact that the bronx borough still exists in bronx county.
You’re the lying POS who claimed Ed Sullivan had drag acts on his program; why should anyone believe a single word you post?
Hard to claim that a place with a total of 3000 residents is subject to urban sprawl.
That's pretty much government in a nutshell.
That's pretty much the nature of permission in general. Whether you're asking your parents, your neighbors, your spouse, your kids, your family members. Everyone is controlling assholes. If you're arguing that no one should ask for permission for anything ever, you aren't a libertarian.
And I say this as someone who believes the 2A allows private citizens the right to own/build anything up to and including nuclear weapons... provided everyone from their neighbors to the banks and insurers with with mortgage and liability interests within the potential blast radius are OK with it.
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You should add boss to your list.
People who want to rule over you.......
What a shock...
particular type of asshole to sign up for zoning commission.
Everyone's against zoning regulations until someone starts a rock quarry next door that operates well into the night, does construction work on their property that sends all the runoff their way, builds a manure pit on their property line, or decides to house 2 "therapy donkeys" on their 1/4 acre lot.
Are some regs way too egregious? Of course. Would it be great if towns didn't need zoning regs to "control people" that are grown ups? You bet - but as you can see in the everyday news, people are morons and unfortunately it only takes a few a-holes to completely ruin things for everyone.
I'm as "get your nose out of my business" as the next person, but unfortunately, not everyone plays well with others, and SOME sort of zoning regs are necessary to keep your otherwise rural or picturesque town from becoming a strip mall.
A rock quarry operating late nights next door to your house is most likely violating a number of other laws, and wouldn't require zoning to address. Especially if it's sending runoff off of its own property and onto a neighboring one.
The municipality I live in has a city ordinance regulating the size and number of animals. It isn't part of the zoning code. It has a noise ordinance and a nuisance ordinance, which are also not part of the zoning code.
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It has a noise ordinance and a nuisance ordinance, which are also not part of the zoning code.
This is actually incorrect. Frequently, the code is a collection of ordinances of similar purpose applied collectively and specifically to say (e.g.) “Noise ordinances don’t apply in agricultural or industrial zones, only residential and commercial ones within City Limits.”
Even if we do away with zones, your supposition or proposal would suggest that it’s somehow better to control people with ordinances and laws that would deal with “(most) likely” outcomes. Which still leaves the problem of people controlling other people at play.
Zoning dates back into antiquity. From the time the first city was walled in, groups of people have said “This is the land *we* will protect.” and what conditions it will be protected under. Libertarianism isn’t going to fully resolve it. There’s a very valid case to be had about a city of a million people in the most litigious state in the country yanking benches that have been around for decades off of sidewalks. This is not that case.
‘It has a noise ordinance and a nuisance ordinance, which are also not part of the zoning code.” Of course those are part of the zoning code. You’re allowed to make noise in industrial areas late at night. You’re allowed the nuisances of a rock quarry where rock quarries are permitted by zoning laws.
"most likely violating a number of other laws" You're ignoring that those other laws are zoning laws. Not too bright are you.
The municipal code of ordinances, of which one section is the zoning code, has many other sections that are not the zoning code. The noise ordinance is not contained within the zoning code. The nuisance ordinance is not contained within the zoning code.
Lots of other things are not part of the zoning code. The building code is not. Traffic laws are not. Criminal laws are not. Lawn maintenance requirements are not. Et cetera.
mad.casual has a point, in that there are instances where those other ordinances may reference back to different sections of the code, and those would need to be examined and updated if a local government were to ever try to abolish their zoning codes.
You, however, do not seem to have any point.
"It isn’t part of the zoning code." You're an idiot.
The little village I live in has an ordinance against allowing noxious weeds to grow in the yard.
There probably isn't a municipality that does not have such ordinances. There may be some but they would be in some far off rural setting.
What you describe sounds to me like a job for tort law, not zoning.
the point of zoning is that tort law is much worse. Tort law generally comes into play post facto which means that the person who builds the manure pit next to the celebration hall can only be dealt with after he has spent all of the money building then you start arguing about whether it is permitted or not.
“It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.” -Lee
The point of tort law is to encourage neighbors to figure things out like men instead of pleading to a higher authority like children.
Zoning exists to allow children to play in the sandbox.
The founders were right. Only property owners should ever be allowed to vote.
What he said.
That works well unless you rent and your absent landlord doesn't care that the toxic waste from the chemical plant built next door is going to give everyone in the development cancer. Oops too late to sue! Everyone already has cancer.
"That works well unless you rent and your absent landlord doesn’t care that the toxic waste from the chemical plant built next door is going to give everyone in the development cancer. Oops too late to sue! Everyone already has cancer."
Want a place at the table? Don't argue from bed-time stories.
If the best you can do is rent by the chemical plant, a landlord is the least of your worries. Put down the pipe, get a job and be productive.
No one who lives next door to a chemical plant or who is still renting by age 30 has anyone to blame but himself.
In any negotiation, if someone wants what you have, you have the upper hand.
Right up to the point where the Government gets involved.
Poetic justice would be one of the local dairy farmers building a manure pit next to the Celebrations wedding venue.
You're the lying POS who is stupid enough to claim Ed Sullivan had drag acts on his show.
Why should anyone believe anything you post?
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Jim Bailey Impersonating Judy Garland on the Ed Sullivan Show.
I don't find zoning particularly troublesome. One should note that all the places that are zoning free, quickly develop the only thing worse:Homeowners Associations. All through Texas, but rare in Massachusetts
One thing that should not exist is "Existing non conforming"
IOW it should not be possible to retroactively make a property non conforming.
This was sold 50-60 years ago as 'you will be able to keep on doing what you are doing' But of course that was not true
Zoning 'can' prevent the wealthy or corporations from enforcing their will on people.
The 'government' is not some disembodied evil entity, especially in a small town. It IS the people
I'm no fan of HOAs but they are private and if you by into one you agree to the terms. It is a libertarian alternative to state control.
Dollar General has also attracted a lot of criticism for driving out local competitors, selling unhealthy food, paying low wages, and generally diminishing an area's character.
Dollar General. The replacement for Walmart Madness.
It's so horrible everybody shopped there and quit going to the other places.
I drive through a lot of small rural towns in my work. A lot of them are many miles from any retail or grocery stores. Dollar General offers these people an affordable local option. It's the best of capitalism in a free market. I know nothing about the "character" of this particular town but I can't imagine that a Dollar General would take more than a couple of acres to build and operate. The Stanford elitists and the control freaks on the zoning board need to fuck right off.
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So then, what is the libertarian solution to owning property and building a house along with a bunch of like-minded people who want to pay for the guarantee not to share their neighborhood with apartment buildings, drug rehab centers, outdoor concert arenas, or feedlots?
Buy enough land to make sure those things can't be close enough to be a nuisance. Build the housing community under a very small HOA.
I don't have nearly as much against the zoning code when it predates the involvement of the people who are dealing with it. This bugs me because it's the imposition of a zoning code on people who weren't subject to one before.
“This bugs me because it’s the imposition of a zoning code on people who weren’t subject to one before.”
Exactly this.
Dollar General=bad
Eco-hipster breweries, artisanal bakeries, doggie shops=good
Lots of the elites and downstaters have their quaint ideas about what rural America should look like that has nothing to do with how people actually live there, or what their needs are
"On the flip side, people who might have made common cause with the anti-zoners in different circumstances decided to stay on the sidelines. Sara Bronin, a Cornell law professor who founded the zoning reform group Desegregate CT, said in an email she was approached about getting involved in Caroline's debate but declined.
The town's debate had less to do with the specifics of a zoning code, and more to do with "rural stubbornness," she wrote."
Now, I don't know Sara Bronin, but from the description of her, what are the odds she would ever have been on the anti-zoning side. She's an ivy league professor who founded an organization called Desegregate CT.
Does seem rather unlikely.
I think Franklin Land Associates' input on the matter would be illuminating. I get the impression that they'd be full on "Down with zoning!" right up until their tenant complains about something 6" the other side of the property line.
The fact that there was NO zoning and that the ONLY requirement was gaining the permitting process for DOLLAR GENERAL, with approvals AUTOMATIC due to property rights, means that the COUNCIL committing a TAKING of PROPERTY.
Banning for 180 days repeatedly to thwart the sale of a commercial project is actually INTERFERENCE IN TRADE and an actionable cause along with the TAKING OF PROPERTY.
What you need to do is STOP talking and listing and begin using for taking of property rights and property.
Then, on top of that sue because the zoning itself REQUIRES that all agricultural property remain as it is. This means that the BRUNT of the entire code is designed to take away the FLEXIBILITY of small and medium sized farmers to be financially viable. In other words it pleases the COST BURDEN upon the farmer.
Since the University Staff Liberal JERKS want to have control over farms and land they do not own, you need to set up SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS that tax all properties in the town to create a fund to assure that the farms survive without need of selling land and or other use.
In other words make them put their money where their mouths are. Tax Avery property at .5% of its value per year into the "Farmland Trust Fund" Guaranty that farmers earn at least the mean or median income of all residents who are employed. The fund can pay the difference and pay any losses of the farm as well.
Done deal, They want SOCIALISM make them put up for it.
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Both Caroline and Hector are in this situation because they are overrun with progressive expats from Ithaca, the City of Evil.
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