The Big Myth Is Full of Recycled Anti-Capitalist Cheap Shots
A new entrant in the anti-neoliberalism genre fails to land any blows.

The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market, by Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway, Bloomsbury, 576 pages, $35
Historian Richard Hofstadter once wrote that "the paranoid is a double sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world, with the rest of us, but by his fantasies as well." A compelling case could be made that this affliction has taken hold among the highest ranks of Hofstadter's own profession. New academic "histories" now appear on a near-monthly basis, each blaming a variety of social ills on the conspiratorial machinations around a single idea: the free market.
Almost everything in this genre follows the same formula. When the American electorate fails to embrace the political priorities of an Ivy League humanities department, these disheartened authors cast about for a blameworthy culprit. They settle on "market fundamentalism" or "neoliberalism." The explanation then takes a paranoid turn, declaring the targeted theories a "manufactured myth" arising from the "inventions" of 20th century business interests, which allegedly hoodwinked voters into accepting the "magic" of the free market as a matter of received wisdom. Certain that they have found the source of their political obstacles, these historians then claim to uncover a "secret" history that has been hiding in plain sight. All eventually settle on a mundane conspiracy of business interests and libertarian economists, who allegedly derailed America from its progressive path by convincing people that markets work better than government at solving problems.
At some 550 pages, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us To Loathe Government and Love the Free Market is among the most loquacious entrants into this crowded literature. Harvard University's Naomi Oreskes and California Institute of Technology historian Erik Conway lay out their conspiracy theory with formulaic precision, but their book is atypical in one significant way. While most of the other works in the anti-neoliberalism genre manage at least to excavate some interesting archival findings about libertarian economists (before badly misinterpreting them), this book is remarkably light on original content.
The Big Myth's argument most closely resembles that of Cornell University historian Lawrence Glickman's 2019 book Free Enterprise: An American History, which advanced a nearly identical thesis wherein the concept of "free enterprise" allegedly arose as a myth in the service of anti–New Deal business interests. But The Big Myth also weaves in recent tracts by Philip Mirowski and Dieter Plehwe, Kim Phillips-Fein, Kevin Kruse, Quinn Slobodian, and Jane Mayer. Oreskes and Conway round out their spartan use of economic sources (their recounting of "market failure" theory makes heavier use of Pope Francis' encyclicals than any actual economics texts) with a dash of Thomas Piketty's dubious inequality empirics and a touch of Ha-Joon Chang's attempts to resurrect trade protectionism.
A reader with even casual awareness of these other authors will be left wondering why this same story needed yet another repackaged recitation. The result is a meandering journey through secondary sources and Wikipedia entries, presented as if they were tacked to a basement wall amid a disorderly web of yarn and dental floss in a progression that only its authors truly comprehend.
The Big Myth is structured in sequential vignettes about various themes and figures such as Ludwig von Mises, Leonard Read, Friedrich Hayek, Rose Wilder Lane, and Milton Friedman, all of whom are portrayed as either willing propagandists for big business or hapless dupes of the same. The authors expend almost no effort on understanding the arguments of the thinkers they set out to debunk.
A revealing example appears in the book's treatment of Leonard Read's 1958 essay "I, Pencil." Read's story is a fairly straightforward allegory for Adam Smith's famous concept of the "invisible hand," showing how complex social coordination arises from routine economic exchanges and signals in the absence of a centralized design. To Oreskes and Conway, however, the metaphor is literally the hand of God working from above to ensure the market system provides. As they put it, "God made the marketplace and the marketplace made the pencil; ergo God made the pencil."
This peculiar reading originates in a remark by Read's titular pencil: "Since only God can make a tree, I insist that only God could make me." While Read was a practicing Christian who used religious imagery in his writing, this quip was not an invocation of divine intervention to account for the assembly of pencils. It is an allusion to a famous line from Joyce Kilmer's poem "Trees," a point that Read made obvious in a later printing that credited the saying to "a poet." Oreskes and Conway nonetheless carry their mistake to absurd lengths, sneering all the while that deviation from the progressive economic planner's impulse is a sign of superstitious philosophical Occasionalism about markets.
Interpretive peculiarities continue in their treatment of Ludwig von Mises' Socialism. After initially acknowledging that the book was written in German in 1922, Oreskes and Conway soon drift into anachronism by insinuating that it was intended as a critique of President Franklin Roosevelt. ("Mises's use of the term socialism was misleading," they contend, "because no credible American political leader in 1944 was advocating central planning.") They augment this ascription of prophecy with a sleight of hand, replacing the revolutionary Marxists of Mises' original commentaries with the comparatively benign Norman Thomas as their own preferred avatar of socialism. Like other texts in the anti-neoliberalism genre, The Big Myth removes 20th century free market authors from their historical context by hand-waving the Soviet Union out of existence and proceeding as if socialism means nothing more than a narrow swath of modern Scandinavian social democracies.
Such errors are frequently paired with another recurring theme: the authors' fundamental inability to approach their opponents with anything remotely resembling intellectual charity. The book is filled with gratuitous swipes, many of them comically ahistorical.
This usually means either a false accusation of racism or a disparaging attack on a target's qualifications. Mises receives both types of abuse. After dubbing him an "absolutist who sympathized with fascism," Oreskes and Conway launch into an extended attack on the Austrian economist's migration to the United States in 1940. In their telling, Mises was a relic of a bygone laissez faire ideology who struggled to find a respectable academic job until "dark money" funders created a succession of positions for him at New York University. It is doubtful they would pass similar judgment on the many academic refugees from Nazi Germany who hailed from the political left. Meanwhile, Mises' academic work in the United States gained higher honors than either Oreskes or Conway has ever achieved. By the decade's end, he had published three monographs with Yale University Press, including the decidedly anti-fascist book Omnipotent Government. Upon his retirement from teaching at age 88, Mises was named a distinguished fellow of the American Economic Association.
Only a paragraph after branding Mises a fascist sympathizer, Oreskes and Conway shift into gushing praise for John Maynard Keynes' "The End of Laissez Faire." Keynes' lifelong support for eugenics extended to this famous essay, which called on governments to "pay attention to the innate quality as well as to the mere numbers" of their citizenry. Interestingly, Keynes first delivered this message as a 1926 lecture at the University of Berlin. Mises, who attended as an academic observer, lambasted Keynes' irresponsible remarks out of concern that they could be interpreted as support for Nazi race theory. Keynes continued to flirt with fascist elements through at least 1936, when he penned a notoriously tone-deaf preface to the German edition of his book General Theory, announcing that he "expect[ed] less resistance from German, than from English, readers."
Oreskes and Conway's penchant for disparagement apparently extends only in the free market direction. They casually brand Milton Friedman a "racist extremist" and defender of segregation, but not for any actual defense of segregation. The authors simply disagree with his argument that markets were more effective tools for bringing about integration than government edicts.
Hofstadter wrote that the paranoic's accounts of his enemies "are on many counts the projection of the self." It is hard to resist a similar conclusion here. Oreskes and Conway label their opponents racists and eugenicists while lionizing progressive racists and eugenicists. They accuse Friedrich Hayek of eschewing "the essence of scholarship," which "is to look past the immediacies of time and place," while themselves constantly processing history through their modern partisan commitments. They accuse free market economists of venturing outside their scientific expertise while offering their own decidedly nonexpert opinions on everything from economic inequality to COVID-19.
The authors' discussion of the latter subject, which closes the book, is unintentionally comedic. Oreskes and Conway use the pandemic to contrast U.S. "market failure" with the alleged success of "countries that mounted a strong, coordinated response," China foremost among them. As their book went to press, China's centralized "zero-COVID" regime was collapsing into the same unfettered disease spread that Oreskes and Conway ascribe to free markets. But readers should not expect any self-interrogation from this pair.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Cheap Shots at Free Enterprise."
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So, do Oreskes and Conway offer any alternatives?
Sure, them in charge. Dictatorship of the (university) proletariat.
Well, they are the smartest people in the room (the room being the faculty lounge).
“showing how complex social coordination arises from routine economic exchanges”
Like the biggest monkey at the zoo coordinates his banana republic with greed.
In contrast, when people are considered equal, with the concept of inalienable rights, nobody has the authority to use more of the earth’s resources than anyone else resulting in zero advantage to great wealth.
Well, what’s it gonna be, inalienable rights or greed?
As long as there is The Law of Causality, actions will have consequences, different actions will have different consequences, and different actions by different people in different situations will have different consequences. As long as sapient beings exist, there will be Inequality of Outcome.
But when Individuals have Equal Rights Before The Law and act through a Free Market, they are not stuck with their outcomes, outcomes can get better or worse, and the economic future is never set.
That is 100 percent opposite of and better than the equality of poverty and the pile of equal skulls that are the result of your worldview.
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The point of these marxists is not an alternative. They just want you to hate the system we've got. There is no reform. There is no fixing. Revolution is our only choice, and that requires you to accept uncritically that the whole system is corrupt to the core.
Marxists just want the revolution- like crazed apocalyptic christians, these people think the rise of utopia will be taken care of after the fact.
Indeed. And after the latest revolution, murderous fighting between factions, and the incidental (or deliberate) death of millions, the right-thinkers will bemoan the failure of yet again not attaining true Marxism.
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"the right-thinkers will bemoan the failure of yet again not attaining true Marxism."
Yes, I am sure there will be some conspiracy to blame for that.
With a healthy dose of blaming rampant free market capitalism that doesn’t actually exist. Much like the Irish potato famine or the Opium War often is today.
The point of these marxists is not an alternative. They just want you to hate the system we’ve got. There is no reform. There is no fixing. Revolution is our only choice, and that requires you to accept uncritically that the whole system is corrupt to the core.
Exactly. That's precisely why even their most intelligent philosophers don't even know what the "marxist society" is supposed to look like or how it would realistically operate. Their own worldview won't even stand up to the scrutiny of the very dialectic they indulge in. And it's precisely why later neomarxists like Paolo Freire ended up admitting that the only thing marxism has to offer is perpetual revolution--no stability, no security, no rest, because any society that features such things is the "status quo." The goal of marxists is to always tear down the status quo, regardless of what it is, because the status quo is supposedly "oppressive" in some way.
It's the epitome of a nihilistic, destructive, cultish ideology that is incapable of actually building anything of lasting value.
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1629539928672546822?t=G7t3jnNW9q2LJ9mrsuRKJg&s=19
Every state with the will to do so needs to push curriculum about the realities and atrocities of Communism. Make sure characters like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Lysenko, and their crimes, are well-known and familiar. Teach children healthy people don't endorse those ideas.
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Yeah, but we also need to teach some more basic fundamentals, like autonomy, self-reliance, and personal responsibility. And that childhood has a time limit, and the state is not mommy.
And Putin too.
There is no reform. There is no fixing. Revolution is our only choice, and that requires you to accept uncritically that the whole system is corrupt to the core.
You do realize the same can be said about many Ron Paul supporters from 2008 on. The book - the Tshirt - the logo - money bombs - the campaign swag - the original Tea Party. Those along with the John Birch Society - St Rockwells continuing conspiracy shit - Alex Jones (when he was the only media that would invite Ron Paul for an interview) - the online poll stuffing to propagandize a different reality.
A compelling case could be made that this affliction has taken hold among
the highest ranks of Hofstadter's own profession.pretty much most ideologues and 'activists' now.FIF the author. In 2008, I was struck by how much the Ron Paul crowd (which I was very much part of ) looked/was like the Chomsky crowd. Most of the commenters here have the same affliction once you substitute 'market fundamentalism' for a different bugaboo.
Sounds like you could use another booster
“You do realize the same can be said about many Ron Paul supporters from 2008 on.”
What a wonderfully vague slur you figured out. “Many” Ron Paul supporters, eh? Is this like the “Many” nurses you totally didn’t make up that were quitting healthcare because of mean anti-vaxxers?
https://reason.com/2022/01/06/omicron-vs-the-unvaccinated-and-the-vaccinated/?comments=true#comment-9293394
It doesn’t need to be said that JFree’s broad and vague generalization is total bullshit. He once again confuses his wild speculation for fact, and his arrogance for evidence.
The Ron Paul movement circa 2008 was not about perpetual revolution, or convincing people that the system was so corrupt it just needed tearing down. Just look at JFree’s evidence- the Money Bomb? Really? Fundraising for an elected position with the hopes of getting popularity for a political party is just trying to whip people up into revolution?
It just defies belief the random shit that JFree will assert as fact. As is his want, he will now go on a mad dash search to find random quotes to validate the shit he made up in his head.
“the original Tea Party.”
Again, this is ludicrous. The Tea Party was largely formed by people who didn’t want the passage of ACA. People like JFree at the time were mocking them for signs like “Keep your hands off my Medicare.”
So get that- people wanting to preserve Medicare are perpetual revolutionaries. Right? Riiiight?
What a wonderfully vague slur you figured out. “Many” Ron Paul supporters, eh?
I didn't figure anything out. Murray Rothbard wrote about this shit in 1992 when 'paleolibertarian' first became a strategy.
It is fascinating that there was nothing in Duke's [that's David Duke] current program or campaign that could not also be embraced by paleo-conservatives or paleo-libertarians....The Marxists have correctly pointed out that a social system collapses when the ruling class becomes demoralized and loses its will to power....Hence the importance, for libertarians or for minimal government conservatives, of having a one-two punch in their armor: not simply of spreading correct ideas [the Hayek model], but also of exposing the corrupt ruling elites and how they benefit from the existing system, more specifically how they are ripping us off
Or two of the specific programmatic ideas - straight out of the Weimar wing of libertarianism- Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment [to violent criminals], subject of course to liability when they are in error and Get Rid of the Bums. Again: unleash the cops to clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares? Hopefully, they will disappear
Yes - it is 'many'. The Ron Paul movement has been playing with those folks since long before those folks became the alt-right. And you can see it in 'many' of the commenters here who get their jollies by threatening other commenters with death. Hey its nonaggression because its only words. But - hey - die already!! Right?
And the Tea Party idea did not start with ACA. It started a year and a half earlier - before Obama was President - when the first money bomb was held on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. It began to take hold among Ron Paul supporters after the GOP conventions as the R establishment squashed them. And took off with the TARP bailouts. And then was coopted by the establishment R's to oppose Obama's ACA.
"I didn’t figure anything out. Murray Rothbard wrote about this shit in 1992 when ‘paleolibertarian’ first became a strategy."
Let's back up a second. I accused these new marxists of not offering alternative answers to our existing system. I pointed out that they don't want reform or fixes, they just want revolution and that requires insisting that the entire system is corrupt and beyond salvation. JFear then bizarrely stated that Ron Paul's campaign in 2008 was no different.
Again, this is a bizarre take. Ron Paul *did* offer alternatives. He was running for a position in the CURRENT SYSTEM where he could reform the system. He wasn't saying "There is a massive conspiracy to prevent change, so overthrow it." He was saying, "Vote for me and we can change the system for the better."
And when called out for his foolishness, JFear (as predicted) did his google search to try and support his assertions and finds...a political treatise not from Ron Paul circa 2008, but Rothbard in 1992.
Let's set aside the idiocy of insisting that one article from over a decade earlier sums up Ron Paul's campaign. The fact is, Rothbard doesn't even support JFear's contention. The quoted portion specifically OFFERS AN ALTERNATIVE (the Hayek Model). Rothbard isn't arguing to just burn the system down, he is arguing to reform it.
But again, this is the way JFear works. He makes bald assertions and thinks that by asserting them arrogantly enough, he will come off credible.
I'll steal a copy and let you know.
I mean, surely they don't expect me to interact with the *market* to acquire one...
Sadly, Mr. Magness is making a too common error about Free-Market Capitalism:
A revealing example appears in the book's treatment of Leonard Read's 1958 essay "I, Pencil." Read's story is a fairly straightforward allegory for Adam Smith's famous concept of the "invisible hand,"
Adam Smith never said there was an "invisible hand," only that people who trade out of self-interest benefit everyone in an economy "as if by an invisible hand."
Adam Smith was part of the Scottish Enlightenment and was skeptical of Supernatural claims.
By saying "invisible hand" like it is a real thing, Libertarians and Conservatives are injecting Mysticism into Economics. Small wonder the enmies of the Free Market call us "Market Fundamentalists."
You really think that many conservatives and libertarians think "the invisible hand" is in reference to a real force external to the people engaging in economic transactions?
They almost never make the quote accurately, and Leonard Read just had to throw The Cosmic G-Thang in afterwards. In fact, I've heard Father Sirico and Laura Ingraham refer to "the invisible hand" as if it is a thing, so yes.
And when Libertarians and Conservatives base Free-Market Capitalism on Mysticism as a cause, they are effectively saying that Rationality and Science are on the side of Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Socialism, Welfare Statism, and all the other Collectivisms.
Nothing could be further from the truth given the history of these ideologies. And nothing could be a worse way to make an argument.
"A reader with even casual awareness of these other authors will be left wondering why this same story needed yet another repackaged recitation."
It needs "repackaging" so they can sell more books and make more money, because, you know, that's how the free market works.... er... wait... can't be that...
Except purchases of this book wont be done by the free market: it’ll be required reading at universities everywhere, making the book seem both popular and learned, when it’s neither.
Despite Harvard and Pulitzer overseer and PBS News Hour regular Doris Kearns Goodwin's exposure and resignation for plagiarism from other author's books, Oreskes and Conway have thus far gotten away with un-cited borrowings from such learned journals as Vanity Fair in their prequel to The Big Myth, Merchants of Doubt.
Hey, private property is capitalist. And probably racist.
I imagine university endowments would be among the first property appropriated by the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Only if the university is insufficiently doctrine.
Don't worry, the smell of power will divide them such that every university will angrify someone enough to appropriate their endowment.
More like appropriated by the dictators of the proletariat.
Today seems to have a pattern. I left a similar comment in Volokh.
Subsidies increase what is subsidized. Student loans and federal research grants subsidize marginal fields, marginal practitioners, and marginal acolytes, who, being bored as shit and yet somehow realizing they have no useful skills, turn to telling everyone else how to live.
Also, when life gets too easy, especially for the coddled, they go looking for "problems" to solve.
Sure, same thing. They've been indoctrinated by high schools to think college is a requirement of being an adult, but they know they can't hack math and logic, so STEM is out. They flood the humanities, but discover they are also no good at literature or history, and besides, those fields are so tapped out they are researching grammar shifts among the peasants in Lyon during the reign of Louis IV. What else is there? Gender fluidentity studies! Racism!
Meanwhile the government passes out funding like candy, and all those same students with all those freshly minted PhDs latch on like the leeches they are. The government realizes there is more demand, provides more supply. Win-win-win!
But STEAM is the new STEM. No joke.
By adding Arts to STEM, colleges are deliberately creating a more, um, diverse and equitable academic community. Remember that the next time you need surgery, fly on a plane, or drive across a bridge.
It is way worse than that. Government money is essentially dictating the conclusions beurocrats want. Government money ruins everything it touches.
“California Institute of Technology historian Erik Conway”
“The result is a meandering journey through secondary sources and Wikipedia entries”
I was about to be completely embarrassed that my support of Caltech was producing such dreadful scholarship. This was once one of the most prestigious science and engineering schools in the country- the university where MIT students would go if they could make the cut. Richard Feynman taught here. How is it possible that a Caltech professor is trafficking in such nonsense?
It turns out he isn’t. This is a dude who was hired as “historian” at Jet Propulsion Labs. And while JPL is nominally a unit of Caltech, the majority there are regular employees, not faculty. And most of the money for engineers, scientists, DEI officers, historians, social media coordinators and the rest comes from NASA.
I guess we should not be surprised that "government scientists" are fans of socialism.
Turning a press release writer into a Caltech Historian is as easy as drumming up a Harvard appointment for an Al Gore Reality Project lieutenant with a single digit academic research score, but an NPR producer for a brother
What about a woman who is 1/64 injun?
The science historian in question began her career as a gold geologist in Australia, but it didn't pan out , and she ended up as a university provost in California.
Every fan of planned economies, and presumably planned societies, should be given a one-way ticket to the existing planned utopian nation of their choice. They can re-apply for US citizenship in 10 years.
(Yes, I realize this contradicts libertarian principles. But if we do not solve the dilemma of how to freely allow people to pursue totalitarian government, we are fucked.)
Ironically most of them came here because their "planned utopia" didn't pan out from whence they came..... "but it'll work this time." /s It is the Conquer and Consume mentality.
Have a core government which has no power, and let people form and join what I call associations. These associations have charters they want, whatever membership contracts they want. The trick is that any charters or bylaws which violate self-ownership require members to become wards of the association guardian, inspired by parent-child guardianship, explicitly surrendering specific liberties. These would go beyond children's loss of liberties because they are voluntary wards, assumed to be competent adults with full agency.
The catch is that adult wards like these, unlike children, can self-emancipate at any time. So yes, these associates can be wards who have agreed to turn over their assets and income to their association, which can maim, torture, and kill them; tax them to a fare-thee-well, imprison them if duly convicted, etc; but these wards can self-emancipate and avoid the prison sentence, the taxes, etc, of course also losing the association housing and the assets they turned over on joining.
The advantage of this is having an incredible variety of associations, from insurance cooperatives, the old mutual aid societies, more or less traditional democracies, and dictatorships of the proletariat.
The biggest problem with socialism is that it always fails, always disappears, and it is all too easy for future socialists to claim there never has been true socialism. Associations solve that problem because these wannabe socialists can form new socialist associations at any time. The only thing lacking is coercing membership.
The huge variety of socialist associations, all of which have to face fiscal reality, would be a constant education to the general public.
If only we could found a nation on principles of restricted government, with checks and balances, and words like "Congress shall make no law..."
No, go back to the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution was a fairly good second attempt, but it illegally replaced the better first attempt.
Yeah, yeah, the whole Subsidiarity and Anarcho-Capitalist Stepford fever dream we get from MYOB2 and ace_82.
Thing is, you can't withdraw consent once the Big Kahuna of the "association" has forbidden U-Hauls on the collectivized thoroughfares, egress is blocked, and you are, of course, dead.
The whole idea of Libertarianism and Free-Market Capitalism is not lawlessness and no government, but law and government limited to protecting Individual Rights to Life, Liberty, and Property. That means that there are some jobs, some roles, and some things that no one should do and that any contract where a person sells themselves into slavery is null and void.
And they’ll return, complaining that the planned utopia they were sent to wasn’t “true” Socialism/Marxism/Communism/Progressivism, but that they can make one here that’s perfect, given enough control and money.
Remember that all the countries where a Communist Party is in control have been practicing, not communism, but socialism, which as they use the term is a system put in place to prepare the people for communism when they're ready for it. Although socialism is never the intended stopping point, as is the type of socialism practiced in countries where avowed Socialists are in control, but it has never progressed beyond there.
And that linguistic distinction only really got a foothold post Lenin (and his failures). Used to be synonymous.
"lay out their conspiracy theory" .... hitting the nail on the head for once.
It's amazing how expansive and accepted Leftard-Projection entirely within itself is.
"Omg! The sky is falling, the sky is falling! and only conspiracy-theorist believe otherwise!"
"The right side are all Nazi's but we're proud National Socialists."
etc... etc... etc...
"Only White-Skinned people are racist."
"Only Males are sexist."
"Only free-markets are monopolized under one force."
A few minutes an entire page would form.
And it ends with "Therefore, put the retards in charge."
Anti-New Deal interests? That’s pretty much everybody other than government bureaucrats and a few big corporations.
There really are only two kinds of people: those with dominant libertarian values and those who somehow want to control others.
These others come in endless varieties with all sorts of contrasting and incompatible visions for humanity. But they never disagree about the mandate to control, just who gets to wield that mandate. Naomi Oreskes is closer to Victor Orban than she will ever know (or admit).
Yes! The left-right paradigm is nonsense. The real divide is individualism and statism/collectivism.
It would be so awesome if any Reason journalist took the time to list every statism/collectivist bills and marked their sponsors party.
Perhaps I'd join the 'boaf sidez' narrative but a far majority (like 95%+) of all the ones I've pulled are definitely all party predictable.
Federal Reserve Act [D], Of course all of FDR New Deal socialism [D], Cares Act [D], etc, etc, etc...
Yeah, pretty one-sided recently. The US certainly has a legacy of statists from the right, mostly theocratic. And while a religious order fringe linger on, they pose little threat to liberty in this century. We do have a potential problem with right wing populists, but no where near the risk posed by socialists.
"religious order fringe linger" --- Yes; that is true.
Which is what the both sides people have been saying forever. Republicans and Democrats don't argue over liberty vs control. They argue over who gets to control what. They're both solidly in the control camp.
Not really.. The puritan-control-right only represents less than 1/2 (very high estimate) of the right-voters or less (Trump actually pegged this - see below). The race/religious/culture/socialist economy represents practically the whole left. The obviousness of it is that Democrats don't believe in principle (Supreme law) but instead do Gangland Politics (i.e. Democracy).
The 'equal' blame for Gangland politics is yet but another Projection-Game of the left leaning.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-blames-pro-life-republicans-midterm-loss
Republicans want to punch me in the gut and Democrats want to kick me in the balls. You're saying that being punched in the gut isn't that bad, when I'd rather not be hit at all.
In the land where 1 ft-lb and 1,000 ft-lbs are ‘equal’. LOL...
Did you just make an 'equality' argument??? 🙂
I think anyone with a shred of honesty and a functioning brain would say no.
Definitely see that in the immigration debate when supposed libertarians suddenly see government controlling others through identification papers, qualifications, licenses, and other efforts to make others ask permission and obey commands as a wonderful and necessary thing.
Dude... WTF are you doing in my car? Do you have written permission to use it? Oh the horror! /s
Calling immigrants trespassers when their landlords and employers would argue otherwise isn't very logical.
Here's the topic... Here's your straw-man....
But to address your straw-man; One's sole Landlord or Employer isn't the sole God of a nation. Keep scrapping for leverage...
Anti-immigration arguments that take the form of “it’s just like rules about trespassing on private property” completely ignore differences of scale and the difference between individual and collective.
Yeah; Those nasty ?Anti-immigration? arguments in the nation with the most immigrants in the entire world.../s Talk about ignoring scale.
Immigrants aren’t trespassers, illegals are.
Not if the property owner is OK with them being there.
And we'll just steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the transfer payments explicitly forwarded to random interlopers who jumped the line ahead of legal immigrants, facilitated by the very people who smirk and say "right man, show your papers 'n shit, man" while demanding I show my papers, and my pay stubs, and give them unfettered access to my income at the point of a gun.
How many wrongs does it take to make a right?
You're engaging in the same argument that pro-tax leftists use when they defend taxes: I pay it, so you/they should too!
At least they don't pretend to support liberty.
Yes Sir; If you want to claim a nation as your own against the will of that nation you're going to have to use massive GUNS to get there.
Your 'Liberty' doesn't auto-entitle you to it.
There is no such thing as the will of a nation.
Fine, make more immigration legal. It will then be easier to make sure legal immigrants are paying all the same taxes as native-born.
How much more legal immigration are you advocating for?
A Full-On Invasion… I think that has been well established.
Because Immigrants have entitle-rights to it. /s
The best kind of immigrants.
Eh, he mutes me because I challenge him and force him to actually make an assertion or take a position. He's not really good with arguing an actual position. Thus, he won't answer this question because he basically can't.
That's because Mike isn't here to discuss anything. He is here to sow chaos and own the deplorables. He long ago stopped offering anything but snark.
I would add a third type, and I know a few: those who want to be controlled by others. Or at least don’t mind being controlled.
I'd actually argue this is probably the biggest group. The desire to not have to take responsibility and simply be told what to do is actually quite prevalent.
The theory falls apart when you talk about willful membership.
They want the GUNS of theft (entitlement).
Nothing stops the DNC from starting a socialist-club membership via contract “business”.
Yet, it doesn't.
Nope; It's all about the GUNS of theft.
No, it's not. You're imparting blanket intent on people that doesn't exist.
I’m imparting common-sense on a indoctrinated/polluted narrative/lie.
It’s not willful because the very-core (main-purpose) of it resides in Gov-Gangster-Guns of [WE]-gang democracies ability to TAKE from those ‘icky'(envied) people (i.e. GUNS of theft).
I'm amazed by the people I've heard over the years saying they wished smoking were made illegal so they "could quit smoking". Of course they wouldn't have quit if it had been illegalized, and I haven't heard it in a long time because so many have quit anyway.
I've even heard some smokers say they don't believe smoking is that dangerous, because if it were, it would be illegal. One of them said warnings on packs of cigarets were an insincere government policy — that if the powers that be really believed what they were saying, they should make it illegal.
Also, there isn't much popular complaint about high taxes except that the money winds up being spent on the wrong things, and especially on classes of people distinct from those whom it's taxed from. Countries where the population is perceptibly homogeneous (except for age) have high degrees of satisfaction about tax-and-spend policies because the people paying the taxes see themselves as not-unlikely recipients of the money if they ever need it. They see it as beneficial social insurance rather than redistribution from "us" to "them".
Smoking bans were my gate way drug into libertarianism. I’m a non-smoker from a smoking family with multiple tobacco related deaths. I’m not blind to the pitfalls of smoking.
But there was something so arbitrary and unnecessary about it all. Something about the way science was being bent to achieve social engineering. Something about the way smoking bans failed in legislatures only to come back again year after year like battering ran until they acquiesced. Something about what a bunch of freedom hating pussies we were making ourselves into by trying to ban a smell. Or targeting smokers for something they’ve been allowed to do in a Tobacco state since its founding.
I still think a lot of our nanny state modern regulatory woes are a result of not drawing the line at smoking bans and pushing back against the cultural assault.
Then everything came full circle about 5 years ago. When I was the lone guy arguing with a bunch of “libertarians” on Facebook about proposed smoking bans in cars with children. These libertarians argued for the bans because smoking in a car with kids violated the NAP.
Then I started to wonder what “libertarian” even meant and if I was one anymore.
To your actual point, I worked at a restaurant in maryland during the final push for a state ban. The owner supported the ban because he thought he could get more families into the place if the smoking was kiboshed. But he didn’t want to be considered the bad guy to his smoking regulars. So he was hoping the gov would do the dirty work for him.
I could only tell him, you get the government deciding that type of stuff, don’t be surprised when they put you out of business some other way down the road. He listened to me patiently but he wasn’t convinced or impressed by the principle of the thing. Or protecting his property rights,
Summary: The ones who get what they want from Gov-Gun tyranny don't mind the tyranny at all (no principles). [WE] mobs RULE! /s
Summary: The ones who get what they want and the ones who don't care either way don't mind Gov-Gun tyranny.
Or put more bluntly; Why should I care about slave states; I'm not black. So long as the [WE] mob isn't against me personally then ... [WE] mobs RULE! [WE] don't need minority-rights because when you sell your Individual Souls to the [WE] foundation; You don't exist.
Another correct (edit isn't working)
[WE] don’t need Individual Rights because 'you' don't exist in the [WE] ideologically aligned party.
Now that socialism is failing in the USA all the socialists points the BLAME at everything BUT socialism.
That's like when the left blames "fascists" on the right for not letting the left impose fascism.
When fascism is a leftist construct.
And how much of that reply originated in Self-Projection?
I really didn't hear a lot of left-side "fascists" when Roe v Wade got thrown away.
My bad; I see from other comments you meant that literally.
Anti-capitalism is for spoiled brats.
Especially teen girl drama queens (or their adult equivalents).
Looks like the authors wrote one big ad hominem, attacking economists instead of their economics. That should pass as a persuasive and logical argument around here.
You ought to read your own comments sometimes.
Like I said, fallacies are considered to be logical and persuasive arguments around here.
Tu quoque is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack.
Also considered as logical and persuasive argument is doesn’t-even-rise-to-the-level-of-tu-quoque childishness such as replying to someone’s every comment with animal noises. Really adds to the quality of the discourse around here.
As was said of Democracy, Free Market Capitalism is the worst way to order an economy, except for all the others. Capitalism may not be perfect but it allows every individual to have input into the system which is more than any other system allows and therefore produces better outcomes than any other system. Any suggestion that limiting choice would somehow produce better outcomes is what is known as "The Fatal Conceit".
As was said of Democracy, Free Market Capitalism is the worst way to order an economy, except for all the others.
Yes and no. Capitalism isn't something that is imposed upon the people or the economy. It's not some "order" in the sense that it is consciously directed. It's what naturally happens when people engage in economic activity with some basic government functions like courts to settle disputes and enforce contracts, property rights and criminal law. It's not something that is imposed. More like a set of basic rules.
The [WE] mob RULES! /s
The *only* job a free nation allows it’s Gov-GUNS to enforce is laws that ensure Individual Liberty and Justice for all (the very definition of the USA). A willful blind-spot of the *entitle-me* gangland “democracy” [WE] mob of criminals.
Agile Cyborg was more entertaining.
Remember back in December, when you threatened to come to Spokane to kick my ass? I remember. Then you slunk away like the little bitch that you are. I remember that too.
You talk big shit, then play victim. It’s getting old.
I try to avoid using the word, capitalism, though.
First of all, many people who are critical of “capitalism” are actually talking about the mixed socialist-free market system we actually have complete with all its cronyism. And they are correct: crony capitalism and mixed economies do have problems.
Of course, they are misdiagnosing the nature of the problems all over the place.
Oh just say it already.... Socialism *is* the problem.
And it has and always will be "crony socialism" because the term "crony capitalism" is an oxymoron.
No, "crony capitalism" is a correct understanding of the word. Say "free enterprise" if that's what you mean.
crony n. a friend, or a person who works for **someone in authority**, especially one who is willing to give and receive dishonest help.
“free enterprise” n. refers to business activities that are not regulated by the government.
There is NO such thing as “crony free-enterprise” or “crony capitalism” —— They’re both oxymorons.
There is only "crony socialism"
And I too avoid “capitalism” and say “free enterprise”, since “capitalism” is a Marxist term consistent with they etymology of similar “-ism”s, meaning “rule by capital”, i.e. by the owners of capital. Which means true capitalism is indeed either crony capitalism or ownership of capital by government.
Your just pretending the word "crony" doesn't exist.
Again, either you imagine a "design" and then perhaps advocate for it, or you support liberty and accept what happens as a natural outcome of millions of private exchanges. Like creationism vs. natural selection.
"more than any other system allows and therefore produces better outcomes than any other system."
Socialism from USSR to Venezuela seems to produce better results with universal literacy and female education in general than free market capitalism. Literacy and education actually expands the choices available to the newly literate and educated. If limiting the choices of the populace is your aim keep them illiterate and ignorant.
Venezuela!
Some Venezuelans, poor ones certainly, went for decades under one free market regime after another without learning to read or write. They finally learned thanks to the initiatives of the current regime which is not free market but socialist. Much the same can be said of USSR, China, Vietnam etc. Literacy and education expand our choices. The notion that learning to read and write limits our choices is ludicrous.
In the USSR and Venezuela, the most vulnerable people to starvation are also the most likely to be illiterate. To what degree does literacy rates rising correspond to the deaths of poor people also rising? After all, the USSR and Venezuela have been known to starve their own people. The notion that starving to death doesn’t limit the choices of literate people is ludicrous.
"In the USSR and Venezuela, the most vulnerable people to starvation are also the most likely to be illiterate. "
This is exactly my point. Literacy and education give one opportunities, in this case survival, that illiteracy and ignorance don't. And socialist countries like USSR, China, Vietnam, Venezuela etc have put forth major efforts to improve literacy not seen in the days when free markets ruled.
"To what degree does literacy rates rising correspond to the deaths of poor people also rising?"
Literacy corresponds to a lot of things. My point is that it expands one's choices, and that literacy increases dramatically when socialists take the driver's seat. Check the statistics if you are in doubt.
"The notion that starving to death doesn’t limit the choices of literate people is ludicrous."
People don't starve to death in Venezuela. Any food you can buy in America is available there. And literacy rate has increased dramatically. A person who has learned to read and write has more opportunities, more control over their lives than someone who remains an ignorant illiterate.
I would just think, after more than a century, the communist talking points would change.
“Literacy!” Rightley-oh, man.
I just have trouble trusting the literacy statistics when a country considers learning to write your own name as “literacy.”
I have higher standards for literacy than a regime that wants to teach its citizens simply how to sign their tortured confession letters and nothing more.
"I would just think, after more than a century, the communist talking points would change."
I see nothing shameful in a country making an effort to expand literacy among its populace. The fact that these are socialist countries is embarrassing, I grant you. If not embarrassing, then we simply deny the fact, like you and Jerryskids, raised no doubt on a diet of cold war propaganda that can't accept this emphasis on education and investing in social capital.
You’re a victim of Marxist propaganda. Yes, every now and then, there’s a fool who defects to Russia, or Venezuela, or North Korea even, believing that life must be better there because of this or that. So hand wave away the Gulag Archipelago because “Literacy! Social capital!” So you can sign your tortured confession letter and go work in the camps like a good little socialist drone in the workers’ paradise.
“Literacy” in from a Marxist standpoint usually means being “concientized” to find the Marxist message in everything. And being literate enough to read the state propaganda.
"believing that life must be better there "
You're misreading me. I'm not claiming life is better there. I'm claiming that these socialist countries have made successful efforts to expand literacy among the populace.
And guess what? The first thing the literate want in Marxist Totalitarian States is the itinerary on how to get the fuck out!
Fuck Off, Beefsteak Watermelon!
Are you really using the USSR and Venezuela as examples of socialistic success compared to capitalism? This can't be real.
From what I've noticed; Left leaners are so busy projecting their failures that common-sense (reality) doesn't even enter into the equation at all.
" Left leaners are so busy projecting their failures "
Expanding literacy among the populace is not a failure.
Only Gov-Gangster-Guns can teach literacy…../s
It’s always the same bottom-line of self-destructive mentality….
FYI: GUNS make sh*t and they don’t teach sh*t.
And the ONLY tool in ‘governments’ toolbox is GUN-Force………..
Free your mind from the Gun-Packing criminal narratives.
Predictably the same narratives being taught in Commie-Education.
"Only Gov-Gangster-Guns can teach literacy…../s"
Teachers teach literacy. And socialist teachers do it best.
Bernie Sanders still does and he keep getting re-elected.
Obviously willful stupidity isn’t rare; it’s all about Conquer and Consume.
"I promise if elected you all can have your cake and eat it too!!!!"
"..... and a ?free? pony." Because [OUR] GUNS make sh*t!/s
"Are you really using the USSR and Venezuela as examples of socialistic success compared to capitalism? "
Higher levels of literacy were achieved during times when socialists ran the show. Literacy is something that can improve one's lot in life by expanding options.
Does it really matter if one can read and write when they cannot even distinguish the difference between a repeating failed ideology and a successful one? Or how about not being able to tell any longer if a penis or a vagina is a biological part of a person?
It is self-defeating to teach people to read if the only reading they do is complete BS.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking those who want others to teach them to !!!—— EARN IT ——!!! instead of “teaching” them to STEAL it with GUNS. In-fact.......... IT IS the very cornerstone of a Just-Society.
The left; still the party of slavery.
"Does it really matter if one can read and write "
Yes, I think it does matter. The ability expands ones horizon of choices and introduces one to a world that is otherwise not accessible.
"Or how about not being able to tell any longer if a penis or a vagina is a biological part of a person?"
How about it?
"There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking those who want others to teach them to !!!—— EARN IT ——"
I don't say there is anything wrong with it. I am claiming that socialist countries achieve better outcomes with respect to literacy and female education than the other systems you prefer.
Humorously; Even your socialist education in the USA is falling apart right now; right before your eyes. What is your point in making such a claim? Are you attempting to counter-indoctrinate that reality.
"What is your point in making such a claim? "
I'm glad you asked. It was stated that capitalism produces better outcomes than any other system. My point is that when socialists take over from capitalists, the literacy rate increases due to the efforts of the new socialist government to improve education. See Venezuela as a recent example.
Sadly, mtrueman really *is* that retarded.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Wait, you actually believe that?
Hahahahahahahahahaha
What good is universal literacy and education if your freedom to read and learn what you want is suppressed by State censorship and imprisonment, torture, and execution of dissenters?
Fuck Off, Beefsteak Watermelon!
"Democracy" can mean many anything from traditional US-style limited government to a totalitarian socialist hellhole.
"Free Market Capitalism" is a good thing, but unfortunately, it hasn't been practiced in the US or Europe. We have a "social market economy".
What we have is still somewhat better than the alternatives, but it isn't a small-government-democracy with free-market-capitalism.
+10000000; that day the Liberal Supreme Court was benched to conquer the USA.
"When the American electorate fails to embrace the political priorities of an Ivy League humanities department, these disheartened authors cast about for a blameworthy culprit."
" The result is a meandering journey through secondary sources and Wikipedia entries, presented as if they were tacked to a basement wall amid a disorderly web of yarn and dental floss in a progression that only its authors truly comprehend."
I'm not particularly well read and I sure ain't no academic but I love the way this guy writes. The shit is hilarious.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/02/24/dr_james_thorp_the_pushing_of_the_experimental_covid_vaccines_is_the_greatest_violation_of_medical_ethics_in_history.html
"the pushing of these experimental COVID-19 vaccines globally is the greatest violation of medical ethics in the history of medicine, maybe humanity. We have never ever broken the sacrosanct golden rule of pregnancy, never ever."
"We found a 1200 fold increase in severe menstrual abnormalities, a 57 fold increase in miscarriage, a 38 fold increase in fetal death or stillbirth rates. We found 15 other major pregnancy complications, all far exceeding the CDC and the FDA values of safety. What we have is I can produce more than 30 other completely independent sources globally that corroborate exactly our findings"
It was important to cause those miscarriages and stillbirths to protect the elderly who run the gerontocracy.
OLD PEOPLE ARE OUR FUTURE!
What's amazing isn't that some (most) academics deny the magic of the free market (despite the evidence that it works very well and improves living conditions over time), it's that they embrace the magic of government control (despite the fact that it never works and only creates new problems, at high expense).
Almost as if government control is the whole point, and not any hoped-for benefits.
In a way it's understandable.
You can see what government does. People in government can state goals and claim good intentions before setting about to get things done. They have actual power to use force. They can make things happen in the sense that they can employ coercion or kill people who get in their way. So when things go wrong how could it be their fault? They have good intentions, so they must have been thwarted by someone with bad intentions!
You don't see what happen in markets. They're too complicated. So many competing products and ideas. The people involved don't have good intentions. They just want to enrich themselves. They don't have power, which means they must use wealth to influence government. Ah ha! That's where the thwarting is!
It helps to understand how they think if you really want to convince them to think in a different way.
I do believe that's the most brilliant thing you've ever written.
And the solution to exactly the mess you described?
End the "crony socialism" that is a violation of the Supreme Law.
A USA cannot exist without being defined; uphold the US Constitution.
Yes, part of the attraction of socialism is the mental comfort afforded by the idea that there is someone definitively "in charge" and has a plan, even if it is a bad plan. They have an inherent dislike and distrust of spontaneous order. They want a parental figure, like FDR, confidently telling them everything is in hand, even if FDR had no idea what he was doing in reality.
Strangely; My Daddy-figure-for-hire business was a complete failure.
Once everyone saw it had a price-tag attached instead of a ?free? pony.
You have to forgive most academics. Their livelihoods are nowhere near any market exchange. They get rewards and other incentives that are mostly artificial, and incestuous. When faced with something close to market forces, like student reviews or changes in enrollment (and threats to institutions and departments) they tend to panic.
What was that line from Ghostbusters?
"The private sector? Are you crazy? They expect results!"
They expect profits. Results are for pussies.
Promise me you won't tell Fiona.
https://inquisitivebird.substack.com/p/the-effects-of-immigration-in-denmark
The report finds that the total net contribution in 2018 by native Danish people was +41 billion DKK. The contribution of immigrants and their descendants was net negative at -24 billion DKK.
Having summarized the results of the official government financial analysis, I now append with my own analysis on the topic of immigration and crime. According to Danmarks Statistik, there were 5,921 violent crime convictions in 2021, of which 71% (4,193) were committed by people of Danish origin and 29% (1,728) by immigrants and their descendants. In 2021, immigrants and their descendants represented 14% (817,438) and people of Danish origin 86% (5,022,607) of the total population of 5,840,045. Thus immigrants and descendants are overrepresented in violent crime convictions, being 14% of the population and constituting 29% of the violent crime convictions. This translates into immigrants and descendants having 2.5 times higher conviction rates than natives.
Western immigrants and descendants were 5.0% of the population and accounted for just 3.8% of the nation’s violent crime convictions. Non-Western immigrants and descendants were 8.9% of the population and accounted for 25.4% of the nation’s violent crime convictions.
If Denmark didn't want refugees from Libya or Syria, maybe they should have thought twice about meddling in their affairs with their NATO allies and creating the catastrophe that set the flood in motion. Danes should have kept to themselves in the first place, or used their influence in NATO to prevent it.
So this is legitimized by some vague third hand karma?
Now do Ireland.
Actions have consequences. What can be more legitimate than that?
Denmark did not interfere with the affairs of those countries. Stop lying.
Denmark did. As well as the UK, France, Italy, and all those other NATO countries whinging about the refugees they've created by their meddling.
"Oreskes and Conway shift into gushing praise for John Maynard Keynes' "The End of Laissez Faire."
Keynes was a Capitalist. He did believe that workers would work less and less hours and a kind of steady state no growth economy would occur, neither of which came about. I think most capitalists today would reject these ideas.
Keynes was not a free market capitalist, he was. as a charitable description, a state driven capitalist (crony capitalist if feeling uncharitable). He imagined enough state spending could mitigate the business cycle.
A normal garden variety capitalist, in other words.
Looks like if I want Reason to cover the pipeline mystery, I have to follow Robby over to The Hill.
Where is the Robby connection?
You mean the youtube video with Robby at the Hill discussing the Nordstream pipeline with Jeffrey Sachs? Nope, that's the right video I linked to.
It has some name, Briahna Joy Gray, in the title of the video. No mention of Robby.
In general, I have a policy against watching conspiratorial videos, so I’m not going to spend my time actually watching some video unless it is clearly worth the time.
Why? I’ve noticed over the years that conspiracy theorists tend to prefer video to writing things down. Seems to make it easier for them to spin, obscure, make it hard to fact check. Plus it’s just an incredibly time wasting way to communicate information.
The conspiracy theory is that the US isn’t responsible. That’s the conspiracy theory. And the people pushing the Steele Dossier are the ones pushing that theory.
Oh
It has some name, Briahna Joy Gray, in the title of the video. No mention of Robby.
The video title doesn't mention Robby, but he's in it.
You would deny the sun rising in the east if it served your masters, wouldn't you?
What did I deny? I asked you to clarify what the video has to do with Robby, which wasn’t obvious.
Who are my masters?
Anyway, do you got anything interesting and new on Nord Stream 2 that is in writing?
Seymour Hersh, which is what this report is based upon.
And it will take you longer than 17 minutes to read it.
Because I suspect you were born After Twitter, yes, it's THIS Seymore Hersh.
Very wrong assumption. I am almost certainly older than you.
Yes, I know about Hersh’s story. Do you have new news? As in newer than February 8th…
So, since it's been a almost a month, that means Hersch's report is worthless?
Wow, I unmuted you because I thought you might have a link to new news.
Instead, you commit a dumb logical fallacy. I never called his report worthless.
Should have known better. Back on mute.
I get why you mute me. When someone thoroughly keeps wrecking your arguments, it's hard to keep seeing their comments. Better to ignore and live in a fantasy land.
So, what was your purpose for asking for a newer article?
To sea lion?
Hate to bust your bubble but Hersh has been thoroughly debunked by an expert fact checker.
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/worlds-most-ridiculous-fact-checker
Hersh claims " divers, who, operating from a Norwegian Alta class mine hunter, would dive with a mixture of oxygen, nitrogen and helium streaming from their tanks, and plant shaped C4 charges on the four pipelines with concrete protective covers."
Ha. Plant shaped C4 charges on not available. I mean what plant would they be shaped like? An orchid? A rose bush?
I laughed so hard when I saw that. Such a great example of how so often the people telling you the story have no idea about the subject themselves.
So, this video is 17 minutes long? Does it have any new facts?
The description sounds like it is just a criticism of Democrats not investigating while “questions mount”.
Simpin ain't easy but it's necessary,
Chasin' Joe Biden like Tom Chases Jerry.
I suppose insinuating stuff isn’t easy, either.
Oh, wait, it is easy. You don’t have to prove anything.
You should be familiar with that.
It's a conspiracy theory wrapped in misinformation dripping with Russian propaganda.
Do Caltech (and similar institutions such as MIT) require some minimal level of STEM knowledge to teach non-STEM subjects, such as history?
I don't know. Do most universities require any knowledge of STEM for professors who teach humanities (or just live in a modern society)?
Like the rest of the commenters here I'm very disappointed that Reason didn't feature a DeathSantis story today. Surely he did something terrible even though it's a weekend. Turns out he did,
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fstate-watch%2F3871445-desantiss-office-says-he-will-boycott-nbc-msnbc-over-andrea-mitchell-question-on-black-history%2F
Monday at Reason:
Authoritarian DiSantis A Threat To Freedom Of The Press
(subhead) Dangerous populist mounts cowardly attack on respected journalist
Remember this guy? Yeah I don't either.
SBF Consultant Advised "Giving To A Lot Of Woke Sh*t" According To New Indictment
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sam-bankman-fried-charged-conspiracy-make-unlawful-political-donations-defraud-federal
FTX's former CEO wanted to give at least $1 million to a pro-LGBTQ political action group, but couldn’t find anyone bisexual or gay at the company whom he trusted, the document said. One unnamed executive, believed to be Nishad Singh, was urged to make the donation, while another right-wing executive, apparently Ryan Salame, did so for Republican causes, the document said.
One SBF consultant reportedly told him "In general, you being the center left face of our spending will mean you giving to a lot of woke shit for transactional purposes."
This section is about SBF using FTX exec Nishad Singh to donate to left-leaning groups. A consultant who worked with SBF told Singh he'd have to donate to a bunch of "woke shit." This $1 million contribution was to the LGBTQ Victory Fund
But the Soviet Union was not an example of a failed social democracy. The big problem with the Soviet Union was not a market economy combined with strong social safety net. This is just a stale conflation offered by you guys in your never-ending quest to propagandize against good systems and replace them with, ironically, a system that nobody has perfected as well as Putin's Russia.
I'm sure the notorious benefactor of this magazine loves reading crap like this. See, when the Kochs and their fellow would-be oligarchs dream up an economic philosophy, the problem is not that they have misapplied their brains. Their brains are functioning like they're supposed to. The brain is a rationalizing machine. People (stupid people, that is) start with what's best for them and then retroactively justify it. Billionaires have the means to buy entire academic departments for this purpose.
Yeah, Scandinavia has discovered, by real, objective metrics, the best economic and political systems in the world. You can throw up all the bizarre race-based rationales for why it won't work perfectly in America, but you can't say we shouldn't at least try it first.
For what you and your brethren in politics you've been offering has accomplished nothing but the despoiling of the planet and impoverishment of the citizenry, all to the benefit of, surprise surprise, the handful of very wealthy psychopaths who dreamed up this crap to begin with.
Wow, show us on the doll where this article touched you.
In the brain, with an orbitoclast.
"Scandinavia has discovered, by real, objective metrics, the best economic and political systems in the world."
You've found your utopia Tony; What are you still doing here?
Is that nation not allowing immigrants or you don't believe your own BS? Which one?
Never-mind that the last super-hero of those who want to redefine the USA was Venezuela...
Sure, utopia is in Norway, Denmark, and Sweden. Some of the least libertarian countries in Europe, combining comprehensive services run by governments that control more than 50% of national economies, extreme taxes on everything, but especially on personal consumption, and strong single culture norms that define acceptable and unacceptable behavior. You should definitely move there.
I hope you don’t include Norway here.
Norway runs its budget off of oil reserves. As such, Norway is basically a state-run oil company that provides benefits to its employees, er, citizens. As such, it is responsible for global warming and, their sovereign petroleum fund should be sold immediately to pay reparations to the brown and black bodies impacted the most from rising heat and sea levels. Until that day, Norway is a sponsor of racist environmental terrorism.
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It should no longer be a surprise to anyone who is paying attention to the culture wars that academia is filled with socialist propagandists. Since they have no facts or logic to support their narrative their only strategy is to heap unsupported scorn on those who DO have facts and logic; and their key tactic is to try to discredit facts and logic themselves as racist and bigoted. They seem to have endless "disinterested" financial resources for their own academic enterprises while denouncing the financial support of their intellectual opponents as self-interested. Since their followers never actually READ their tracts - critically or for entertainment - and would not understand them if they tried, the success of the movement depends on mainstream media delivering soundbites to the masses in the form of narrative marching orders.
"It should no longer be a surprise to anyone who is paying attention to the culture wars that academia is filled with socialist propagandists."
Whose fault is that? The conservatives here have nothing but contempt for academia, and hatred for the humanities. You can't seriously be surprised by the state of affairs where conservatives have ceded the ground to their enemies.
This peculiar reading originates in a remark by Read's titular pencil: "Since only God can make a tree, I insist that only God could make me." While Read was a practicing Christian who used religious imagery in his writing, this quip was not an invocation of divine intervention to account for the assembly of pencils.
More Magness or Magness-style writers and I might actually subscribe to Reason. I know, I know, it's a disingenuous commitment because they'll never hire more people like Magness, but still... A Christian author referencing God literally and a Reason-writer giving good faith and assuming he's being artistic rather than assuming he secretly means that everyone should stop taking birth control, quit drinking, and convert (by the sword)? He's better on religion than the designated Catholic/Religious reporter/writer/editor(s) Reason has.
"A Christian author referencing God literally and a Reason-writer giving good faith"
Jesus wept.
Those religionists have effectively said that Collectivism is rational and scientific. That's every bit as bad as faith by the sword! No thanks! You can have your homilies!
Anti-Capitalism
“The problem with socialism is socialism; the problem with capitalism is capitalists.” - Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
Yes, Capitalism has its enemies. Some of the worst are capitalists. We recently witnessed some of them attending the meeting of the WEF in Davos. The worst of them have turned into fascists. Unfortunately, there is a confusion between Communism and Fascism. The difference is profound.
Know your enemy! As the writer masquerading under Sun Tsu’s name advised, know your enemy. What is our enemy? Who are its agents?
Our enemy is the extreme danger that now exists in the form of a dark shroud of Fascism progressively covering these United States and subjecting all American citizens to the terror of total tyranny. Alarmingly, Big Media and others confuse Communism and Fascism — intentionally? More alarmingly, many American youth, having been indoctrinated by Big Education, suicidally support the Fascists’ version of “Marxism”. Ironically, their own agents of violence fraudulently refer to themselves as anti-Fascist. Meanwhile, Fascism itself hides behind that support, progressively infiltrating the culture and its operational organs.
From the late 1940's until1991, the preëminent enemy of these United States ideologically was Communism and politically was the erstwhile Soviet Union under the direction of Russia. Today the preëminent enemy ideologically is Fascism and politically is a cabal of self-appointed “elites” directing major, international companies and international agencies.
The most recent threat comes from the World Health Organization, one of those agencies. It comes in the form of a proposed pandemic treaty.
Constitutionally in these United States, medical delivery is to be governed by each of the several States; nevertheless, the federal government unconstitutionally has interceded disastrously. Medicare alone had bankrupted the country even before the recent plague from China. International treaties, however, have been ruled constitutionally to supercede that power of the States. Even a presidential order has been ruled constitutionally to supercede that power.
So, what to do? How to do it? Begin by knowing your enemy. Your enemy is Fascism not Communism. You can do so at . . .
https://www.nationonfire.com/communism-v-fascism/ .
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'The explanation then takes a paranoid turn, declaring the targeted theories a "manufactured myth" arising from the "inventions" of 20th century business interests, which allegedly hoodwinked voters into accepting the "magic" of the free market as a matter of received wisdom.'
It's remarkable how 20th century business interests reached back to the 18th and 19th century to inspire Adam Smith and John Stuart Mills.
At least some. But also some reflect intuitive nativist, protectionist, and maybe even racist impulses. But again, these people are not the pressing danger.