We Need New Laws To Protect People in Pain
The CDC’s revised prescribing guidelines retain an anti-opioid bias and do nothing to reverse the harmful policies inspired by the 2016 version.

"I hope I will remain alive for 2023 to see changes in pain control," a woman I'll call Nancy H. says in a recent email. "I have been treated with opioids for over 25 years at the pain management center of a world-renowned hospital in Boston. I now am suffering daily because I was force tapered down from 150 milligrams of oxycontin and 60 milligrams of oxycodone per day…to just 60 milligrams of oxycodone."
As a health care writer and advocate for people living with chronic pain, I get a lot of messages like this one. They reflect the experiences of patients suffering the consequences of opioid prescribing guidelines that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published in 2016. Those consequences include sharp reductions in medication, undertreatment of pain, reduced access to care, and outright abandonment of patients, resulting in needless suffering and sometimes suicide.
The horrifying fallout from the CDC's 2016 recommendations, which inspired laws, regulations, policies, and practices aimed at reducing the medical use of opioids, was obvious to patients, pain experts, and the American Medical Association. It attracted attention from the Food and Drug Administration and ultimately prompted the CDC to issue new, supposedly improved guidelines in 2022.
The revised version implicitly acknowledges the damage done by what the CDC describes as "misapplication" of its advice. But the agency's updated recommendations retain a bias against treating pain with opioids and a preoccupation with arbitrary dose limits. They do little to address doctors' fears of regulatory or criminal sanctions, and they do nothing to reverse the misguided rules that legislators, regulators, insurers, pharmacists, and health care organizations adopted in response to the 2016 guidelines. A real course correction will require new legislation, which starts with recognizing how those rules have harmed patients like Nancy H.
"Utter Madness"
"The pain and other withdrawal symptoms from this forced taper are horrifying, and the pain I suffer is unrelenting," Nancy H. writes. "My pain management physician did NOT want to taper me and other patients off of the amounts we were being prescribed. The hospital board mandated that all patients being treated for noncancer pain were to be tapered down to 60 milligrams. My physician and other physicians at the pain clinic were told that they would be fired if they did not taper every patient to 60 milligrams."
According to the scientifically dubious conversion system used by the CDC, that daily dose of oxycodone corresponds to 90 "morphine milligram equivalents" (MME), a threshold that the 2016 guidelines warned doctors against crossing. The 2022 guidelines omit that recommendation but include a warning that is potentially even more damaging.
"Before increasing total opioid dosage to ≥50 MME/day," the CDC says, "clinicians should pause, considering that dosage increases to >50 MME/day are unlikely to provide substantially improved pain control for most patients while overdose risk increases with dosage, and carefully reassess evidence of benefits and risks." Although this daunting advice implies that daily doses exceeding 50 MME are rarely appropriate, millions of patients have been well served by opioid therapy at much higher doses, often for years without negative outcomes.
The 2016 guidelines did not say patients who already exceeded the 90-MME threshold should be forced to get by with less. But that is how the guidelines have been widely interpreted, as illustrated by Nancy H.'s account, which is similar to numerous reports on social media. "Along with so many chronic pain patients," she says, "I have given up any hope that I will ever receive the pain management treatment that is necessary to have some quality of life."
The 2016 guidelines, like the revised version published last year, were not supposed to affect cancer patients or end-of-life care. But they contributed to an anti-opioid culture that resulted in shocking maltreatment of patients on their deathbeds.
"My husband, who just died of brain cancer, spent many of his last days in agony," Rhonda F. reports in a January 2023 email. "I had to fight for him to receive any pain relief. Yes, a wonderful man with terminal brain cancer was forced to suffer. I asked the doctor why nobody was giving Larry pain relief, and he replied, 'They are all afraid for their licenses.' My poor, dying husband would moan, lifting his hand to his head, and cry. This is complete and utter madness."
One Size Does Not Fit All
The madness began with the conviction that pain relievers prescribed by doctors—even for bona fide patients—caused and sustained the "opioid crisis." But the correlation between opioid prescribing and drug-related deaths that the CDC cited in its 2016 guidelines was no longer apparent after 2010. The 2022 revisions nevertheless falsely assert the same connection, relying on outdated numbers to support the belief that curtailing prescriptions will somehow reduce opioid-related deaths, which nowadays overwhelmingly involve illicit fentanyl.
Meanwhile, at least 40 percent of all U.S. community clinics are refusing to accept new patients for pain management. Many pain patients dropped by their doctors cannot find anyone to continue their care.
The 2022 guidelines say nonopioid therapies are "preferable" for most patients. But medical literature does not support that recommendation, especially for severe pain. No published trials directly compare opioid therapy with nonpharmacological treatments on an either-or basis. When used to supplement pain relievers, alternative treatments such as acupuncture, physical therapy, and counseling offer only marginal and temporary improvements in pain or quality of life. While prescription opioid therapy is not a default first option for all patients, it is indispensable for both acute and chronic severe pain when the alternatives are less effective.
Like the 2016 guidelines, the new version completely ignores genetic variations in drug sensitivity between individuals. Because of those differences, which have been recognized for at least 20 years, the minimum effective dose is estimated to be as much as 15 times higher for some patients than for others with similar conditions. But published medical trials do not address this wide variability, and neither do the CDC's one-size-fits-all practice standards.
The CDC says its guidelines "should not be applied as inflexible standards of care across patient populations." But the CDC's bias against opioid therapy in general and against high-dose therapy in particular, which is based on an exaggerated depiction of the risks it entails, belies that stance.
It seems clear that we cannot rely on the CDC to correct its errors. But state and federal policy makers can take steps to ameliorate the harm caused by ham-handed efforts to reduce the medical use of opioids.
What Legislators Can Do
Clinicians need an evidence-based standard of practice for prescribing opioid analgesics, and they need to be confident that following that standard will protect them from criminal prosecution, regulatory sanctions, and institutional penalties. Such guidance would necessarily replace the CDC's recommendations, and federal legislation may be necessary to stop the agency from presuming to tell doctors how to practice medicine.
Six U.S. medical organizations have urged an end to "political interference in the delivery of evidence based medicine." These organizations represent more than 500,000 frontline clinicians and medical students spanning family practice, internal medicine, obstetrics/gynecology, osteopathic medicine, pediatrics, and psychiatry. Additional specialties are represented in the American Medical Association's Substance Use and Pain Care Task Force, which aims to "promote evidence-based policy to end the epidemic of deaths related to drug overdose."
A truly balanced practice guideline could be developed by a committee of clinicians who actually practice pain management in communities or hospitals, with representation from clinical specialty academies and organizations. Like the Inter-Agency Task Force on Best Practices in Pain Management that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services established in 2019, such a committee should also include chronic pain patients and their advocates as voting members.
The committee's work should start with a few basic principles. Treatment begins with a cooperative, face-to-face relationship between patient and physician. It includes documenting therapy plans, monitoring progress, tailoring treatment to the individual, and educating patients and family caregivers. Doctors and patients should understand the difference between addiction—a compulsive attachment that persists despite identifiable harms—and physical dependence, which involves withdrawal symptoms following abrupt cessation. Clinicians also must recognize that forced tapering of stable patients is never ethically appropriate and may risk patients' lives.
Pending completion of that project, Congress should require the CDC to withdraw its pain treatment recommendations and notify state medical boards that they should not rely on those guidelines in regulations or practice standards. Congress also should repeal Sections 131 and 133 of the 2018 Veterans Affairs Mission Act, which aim to reduce opioid prescribing throughout the V.A. system, based on the same mistaken premises as the 2016 CDC guidelines. It should direct the V.A. to withdraw its Opioid Safety Initiative and the clinical practice guidelines associated with it, which have been used to justify blanket denial of opioid therapy to veterans.
The Controlled Substances Act, which the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has long deployed against physicians whose prescriptions it deemed medically inappropriate, is another barrier to pain treatment. Last year in Ruan v. United States, the Supreme Court may have reduced that threat by ruling that doctors can be convicted of drug trafficking only if they "knowingly or intentionally" violate accepted standards for medical use of controlled substances.
Amending the Controlled Substances Act could provide further protection for physicians who worry that their good-faith prescribing decisions might jeopardize their liberty, licenses, and livelihoods. Clinical staffs should no longer be subject to coercion by DEA agents who threaten prosecution to obtain testimony against clinicians. Congress should also curtail pretrial asset forfeiture, which often denies clinicians the resources they need to defend themselves effectively in court.
Several states, including New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Oklahoma, Arizona, and Minnesota, have already enacted reforms aimed at protecting clinicians from inappropriate sanctions. These laws are designed to prevent medical boards and law enforcement agencies from penalizing or prosecuting clinicians for "appropriately" prescribing opioids within a "current standard of care." No one should look to the CDC for that standard.
Emails quoted in this article have been edited with the authors' permission.
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This should be a decision made by just the patient and the doctor. Government should stay out of prohibitions and funding as well as insurance and prescription mandates.
Sure they should. But government controls are so widely and deeply accepted that we have to start somewhere far short of just wishing for "stay out". Got any useful suggestions?
Work with your doctor. Find a new pharmacy.
Depending on what the issue is, eating better and exercising.
Had to renew my “health insurance” plan with a new carrier. Had to name my PCP. I didn’t know his name and when looking at the doctor’s office website, it took a while to pick him out of the photos so I could use his name. Haven’t seen him in 11 years.
For those needing opioids for chronic pain, it is a tough one at the individual level. Get the message out. Work with legislators. If I’m on a jury for someone battling that having “too many pills” or “the wrong pills”, nullify.
I’d look into growing poppies and roll one’s own.
We Need New Laws
Words not expected to be seen in a libertarian publication.
Which is why you are seeing it here. Can’t have adults working solely with their personal doctor making adult decisions about their personal health.
Well, I think it's at least fair to say we need different laws if current law enables the CDC to push this bullshit. Maybe start with a law abolishing the CDC. And one repealing the controlled substances act.
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I agree. The abuse of power by the CDC, DEA, DOJ, etc. must be corrected. The corrupt USA.gov agencies torturing patients based on PROPaganda and lies must be stopped from furthur harm.
We Need
NewFewer LawsThat’s how it’s done.
When the problem is bad law, sometimes the only solution is corrective law.
Seems like it would be easier to just repeal the shitty laws that are prohibiting people from buying all the opioids they want. But then, the whole healthcare industry is fucked up because people don't pay their doctors directly, it's either the government or the insurance companies who decide what to pay for. We could at least simplify this by stripping the government out of it but nobody will stand for that.
Post Obamacare, I ultimately pay the doctor directly. It starts with the large copay, then a check to reimburse the insurance company for some of the expenses. Then another check to reimburse for more expenses. Then a third check to pay the rest of the entire balance from the healthcare provider. Have been to a doctor just twice since my previous insurance was made illegal so not many data points. Just wish I could bypass all of that and interact with a free market to knock a zero off the end of the bill.
"...knock a zero off the end of the bill."
Or more if the reporting friction was removed.
Got some pain meds 'on the list', say two years ago, after surgery; watched as the MD filled out one form after another for a 10-tab 'scrip!
If that were easier to just repeal the shitty laws it would've been done a long time ago.
Ironically they attacked Florida and Texas laws against censorship as worse than the censorship. Yet for drugs they want laws to give out drugs.
Still remember they also attacked DeSantis to protect individual rights against taking the vaccine when cruise ships tried demanding everyone be vaxxed.
Please explain to me how there’s anything libertarian about the state telling private businesses how they may or may not interact with their customers. But, hey, any excuse to bash Reason is a good one, even if it means defending authoritarian creeps such as Abbott and DeSantis.
If it's choice between laws passed by elected legislators versus regulations (with the force of law) formulated by unelected bureaucrats, I know which I'd consider the lesser evil. Plus, if the new laws lead to a net increase in personal freedom, I consider that a win, imperfect as it may be.
The absolutist, more libertarian than thou bullshit in the comments is getting really tiresome. I can't quite understand people who'd rather demand everything than settle for some progress, even knowing that their absolutism means they'll most likely get nothing.
Ahh the CDC...experts in masks, vaccines, evictions and opiates...is there anything they don't know best?
This reads like an appellate brief in support of overturning the CDC decision and it's quite convincing i.e. it's not the usual "Lord of the Flies" thinking but seeks to balance the interests and needs of all impacted people. '...In the wake of the medical disasters created under the previous (Obama/Biden) Administration, significant attention needs to be focused upon top-level political appointees, to ensure a better balance between Industry operators, research specialists, and practicing doctors with a more immediate hands-on understanding of patient needs...' Richard Lawhern 11/10/2016 I am sure he would conclude that Trump didn't do much better and now he finds Biden is at it again.
On healthcare issues, the Trump administration couldn't find its collective behind using both hands on a sunny day. While the Biden administration has focused more attention on harms reduction, it has still continued to buy into the mythology that over-prescribing doctors and pharmaceutical companies are the creators of our opioid crisis. That is quite frankly an outright public fraud. And CDC knew it when they published in 2016 and 2022.
I recommend the following as additional reading:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2023/01/09/doctors-prescribing-their-patients-did-not-create-us-opioid-crisis-16787
Thank you "Red". 100% behind all you do to correct the CDC harms done to the sick and disabled. Being denied safe, legal pain medicines is not "saving" us, but killing us, and CDC knows this.
100% agree
We Need New Laws
Fuck off, slaver. What we need is a new government, maybe one by the people and for the people.
The solution to bad laws is more laws.
Totes libertarian.
Never go the full Teen Vox, you people have gone the full Teen Vox.
Gotta have something to scare the people with, so they let the government reduce their freedoms and rights.
"There oughta be a law!"
What about the pain of prosecutors looking for easy wins? What about legislators who want to fix a problem that they know or care nothing about?
Inter arma enim silent lēgēs
How are these situations handled in other countries? A commenter here wrote a few days ago that doctors prescribe very little in the way of narcotic analgesics in other countries, but that's the opposite of what I've heard, so I'd like to hear from people who really know. There are a lot of issues like this that I wish we had a worldwide perspective on, because we shouldn't assume Americans know best about everything.
Doctors in second world and third world countries cannot afford prescription opioid analgesics and thus prescribe them at significantly lower rates. In Europe, Portugal has decriminalized possession of opioid drugs. Germany has comparable prescription rates to those in the US but has a far lower incidence of overdose related mortality and hospitalizations.
Biden's CDC in a nutshell, "UR pain relief will have to be carried out by suicide."
Because [WE] care so much....../s
Sums it up well. CDC hates the sick and disabled. Willful extermination by the state. Witholding safe, legal pain relief, to "save us".
The CDC's stance has pretty much remained consistent against those suffering from pain. But If you want to be technical, the somewhat improved, but no where near enough, 2022 CDC GL Revision came out on Biden’s watch.
By the way, our center-left, neo-liberal establishment that will publicly admit that "the drug war is a failure" and "it's had the opposite effect that was intended" really just wants a different kind of war on drugs.
If I were to use my local political environment as an example of that, the guy cooking meth in a tent on city property should be left alone, because what he does with his body is his choice, man. But the pharmaceutical companies should be prosecuted [as long as we're keeping the conversation restricted to opioids, not vaccines] to the nth degree of the law as they're responsible for the opioid crisis. Ie, we're going after the "wrong" drug cartels.
I’d like to go back to the old drug crisis where people were snorting oxycontin. Seemed a lot better than both pain patients not getting adequate treatment and more overdoses and deaths.
I'm not really sympathetic to the current trend of blaming the pharmas for the opioid drug crisis. I hear the arguments about the profit motive behind pushing these drugs, and I think there's something to the characterization of loose policies in how these drugs were marketed, including but not limited to the argument that Oxys etc are NOT meant to be long-term pain mitigation medications. I just don't know enough about the science of pain management to speak intelligently on the subject.
As such I mostly sit this particular fight out.
What I find striking is watching OTHER people hash this argument out.
I was watching a Rogan segment where he was interviewing some woman who had written a book on the Opioid crisis. At one point, Rogan mentions how it all should just be legalized, and the drug war is a failure. I leaned forward in my seat, waiting for the followup. Sure enough, the woman said that she agreed 100%, the drug war was a failure and it's had the opposite effect. Then she immediately segued into how the pharmaceutical companies are the REAL drug dealers and the reason we have this opioid crisis was because the market is too unregulated and we're not doing enough to keep these drugs off the street.
I have little doubt that had I been conducting the interview, and had I pointed out what I consider to be a considerable cognitive dissonance on the subject, she would have been quick with an answer somewhere along the lines of, "What I mean is the icky drug war where we arrest people for abusing drugs and interdict weed (and stuff) at the border is bad because it *checks notes* hurts minorities and women, but the capitalistic, legal market (that's regulated by the FDA and allows us to *checks libertarian pro drug legalization arguments* know what's in it and stuff, needs to be cracked down on by forward thinking regulators like herself."
Here's my crude way of how I see the two ends of the political spectrum and how the War on Drugs should be conducted:
Right: Make mind-altering substances illegal, put more cops on the street, bust everyone from the dealer to the user and give them all harsh sentences.
Left: Make mind-altering substances regulated, taxed and tightly controlled by a crushing bureaucracy of policy-makers, and already-legal substances such as opioids should be much more tightly regulated with strict oversight of the Pharma companies, and well-trained, clipboard-wielding "facilitators" fresh out of DIE training will look over the shoulder of everyone involved, from the Pharmaceutical company, your doctor, the pharmacist, all the way down to the one receiving the prescription.
I guess you gotta choose your poison at this point.
Then what's the ideology that wants to make them mandatory by putting them in the water supply?
CDC Guidelines. Ie, Trusting in the science.
You've written what legislators can do, but what can regular Americans do? One idea I have is to establish networks by which people could obtain narcotics regardless of legislation. Most pain patients don't have underworld contacts by which they could get narcotics quickly and affordably, and such contacts must take time to establish. We should get them in place in case any of us need such contacs on short notice.
One idea I have is to establish networks by which people could obtain narcotics regardless of legislation.
I think we’ve done a pretty good job at just exactly that, which has brought the scrutiny of regulators and police. "Hey look, here's a network by which people are obtaining narcotics regardless of legislation, get out the handcuffs!"
So how does the average person, when they need them, defeat or bypass the regulators and police, and contact the underworld? That's what I'm referring to, a way of making it easy for people who never previously would've thought of themselves as crooks to become crooked for this limited purpose.
Grow some poppies?
Look for a website that sells them, and buy them with bitcoin. They might start with... I dunno, The Silk Road?
Look, I hear what you're saying, but that's EXACTLY what's been going on, and those people who facilitate normies (as I think you're trying to describe) get opioids outside of the legal strictures... at some point, they're just seen as dealers, abusers etc. The prosecutions will come down just as hard and fast.
OK, but they can make just as much money, too. I wasn't suggesting they not charge black market prices.
Regular Americans can inform their legislators that they won't be reelected while they are contributing to the destruction of American pain medicine by bad public policy.
In a representative democracy, we get the government that we deserve when we are too apathetic to participate.
What do doctors do when they have pain? That's the model that should be followed.
Probably this.
There couldn't be many doing that. Chronic pain is much more widespread than embezzlement, isn't it?
They often take pain medication, same as our Congress.
Although there are doctors who have become chronically ill who are treated poorly also & denied proper pain relief. One recently died because of medical collapse. The body can only withstand the stresses of excruciating pain for so long until systems start to collapse & malfunction.
True.
We need to make terminal cancer patients suffer so that we cannot prevent a single drug addict from an overdose!!!
Good summary.
Simply curtailing pretrial asset forfeiture isn't sufficient. Governments should be required to reimburse all defendants in full when there is an acquittal. Period!
100% agree!
I agree.
I still find it baffling that so many people involved with this unimaginable "crime against humanity," which has been unjustifiably and intentionally hoisted upon millions of innocent Americans is still somehow commonly referred to as some type of government oversight, or misinterpretation of some other desired intent.
For once, let's get this straight. Everything our corrupt government is perpetuating upon millions of innocent Americans relative to the supposed "war on drugs," is now and shortly after its inception has always been 100% deliberate.
More so, regardless of the millions of innocent American lives that have been completely destroyed and the tens of thousands of innocent lives that have been knowingly prematurely ended, our exceedingly corrupt government has no intention of stopping, less every elected official has received at least his or her perceived share of the billions of dollars in "hush money" literally being wheel-barrelled into their offshore accounts by the very industry still perpetuating the "War on Drugs" debacle. Which would be the Addiction Treatment & Mental Health sectors, who are not surprisingly, best positioned to rake in never-before-imagined profits (which will be mostly unwarranted based on their minuscule success rates).
Nevertheless, right about now I'd imagine our best game plan would be to immediately defund and disband both the CDC and the DEA if we ever expect this crime spree to end.
"...Nevertheless, right about now I’d imagine our best game plan would be to immediately defund and disband both the CDC and the DEA if we ever expect this crime spree to end."
We need outsiders like Trump (un-beholden to the swamp creatures) to be able to do that.
I see no others right now; Trump 2024.
I agree with you 100%. However, we need to get Trump on board (before his eminent re-election) with the actual truth about how the government is intentionally harming (and killing) millions of innocent Americans. It's imperative that we hammer Trump with the indisputable facts about what the government, PROP, and the addiction sectors are doing to millions of innocent (VOTING) Americans before the campaign process officially kicks off.
100% agree. CDC is anti American. A totalitarian, fascist entity, bent on their rule, above all others. Abolish the CDC, and all their bogus and cruel "guidelines".
"We Need New Laws To Protect People in Pain"
Absolutely not!
We need fewer laws mediating between my doctor and me.
We also need someone to throw logs into the firebox to keep Reason's steam-powered server working.
People are weak and pain is good. Pain exists for a reason and the fact that pampered modern humans are weak and fragile and can't stand discomfort is pathetic. Obviously I am not talking about burn victims or people with bone cancer, but most people complaining about pain are just whimps who crumble at the slightest hardship.
Chip, you will likely change your tune if you or a close family member are in an automobile accident that crushes your spine, or if you develop chronic neuropathy. The kind of thinking that you advocate is very close to ideas that formed the enabling legislation for the DEA.
Excellent article. The 2016 CDC Opioid Guidelines has seriously harmed tens of millions of pain patients, whether acute or chronic or cancer/hospice. Even our heroes of the military/war and our children aren't safe from it's grasp, yet little has been done to stop it or ease the inhumane suffering happening because of it.
How many family/friends are going to have a major surgery, that's very very painful, but will only receive Tylenol or Motrin? While this may be appropriate for some, what about the many it is not? Now we have patients desperately needing surgery, who are delaying/refusing surgeries because they fear the repeat horrible experience. Oh, and rightfully so. Few, and I mean few can endure major surgery well without proper pain relief & pain medication. People just think they can.
How many loved ones dying from cancer & other horrible diseases are going to go into their next life moaning & screaming in excruciating pain instead of "passing peacefully" in their sleep? It's a horrible thing to watch as a nurse & it's barbaric when we have the power & the means to prevent it. Pray this never happens to you.
We have an illicit counterfeit Fentanyl huge problem. We've had this problem for a long time. Let the DEA, CDC, DOJ etc focus on that & leave the good doctors alone who are trying to help their patients. Let doctors practice medicine & provide individualized care without living in fear of losing their license, their livelihood &/or going to jail.
The 2022 revised CDC Guidelines could have reversed their original mistakes & corrected much of all of this, however, they choose not to follow the advice of their own workgroup panel, HCW's & the tens of thousands of pain patients who begged them for help.
To make a meaningful change we need Congress to repeal all the CDC GL's & make new laws to protect us all before it's too late and no one, or only a choosen few, will receive appropriate pain relief. I'm here to tell you this day is coming much faster than many of you are aware.
**To be clear, street illicit Fentanyl is very unsafe, it's NOT the same as medical Fentanyl - kind you get at the hospital or from a pharmacy etc. Medical Fentanyl is safe & much needed in the medical community.
Agree 100%. Could not say it better. Retired RN and Present Tortured U.S. Pain Patient
Too many nurses live with uncontrolled high levels of pain. Pain so intense they can no longer function in daily life. Because of the CDC Guidelines & the DEA weaponizing the GL, millions of chronic pain patients who suffer from chronic diseases, accident/work injuries etc have been forced tapered off or down to ridiculously low levels of relief. New pain pts are being flatly refused opioids/pain meds. Opioids that provided them with functioning ability AND a quality of life. Non-opioid & alternative therapies are NOT enough for these patients. Even some pts with mod-severe pain require pain meds – this is not rocket science. Addiction rates are actually quite low 1-8%, depending on the study, leaving 91-99% without a problem, yet patients continue to be tortured as if it were the other way around.
I’m so sorry if this has happened to you, Jon. You deserve so much better.
What decides whether it is "appropriate"? I've been in serious pain after surgery for a couple of weeks, to the point that it was hard to sleep or move and it made me cry. But I knew it was going to get better, so I put up with it. That kind of pain is part of human existence. I didn't think it was worth risking opioid addiction over that.
You can say "it should be up to the patient", and I agree in principle. But the problem in the US is that the culture and doctors themselves don't even seriously consider that as an option. Everybody assumes that being comfortable no matter what is some kind of birthright.
The restrictions on opioids in terminal patients are a reaction to the irresponsible use of opioids in other patients.
On top of that, US doctors and hospitals provide medical treatments to terminal patients far beyond where it makes sense, both for financial and cultural reasons.
"What decides whether it is
“appropriate”? I’ve been in
serious pain after surgery for a
couple of weeks, to the point that
it was hard to sleep or move and
it made me cry. But I knew it was
going to get better, so I put up
with it. That kind of pain is part of
human existence"
This is why "individualized care" between a doctor & their patient- NOT a blanket one size fits all law by Congress/state gov is so very important.
"'I didn’t think it was worth risking
opioid addiction over that."
The chances of an opioid naive patient without history becoming addicted post-op is less than 0.5% per studies. This is were the doctor-patient individualized care comes in - you and YOUR doctor can look at YOUR history along with YOUR beliefs on pain control and ALL the pertinent information to make the proper medical decisions for YOU. Perhaps relief from a pain so severe that it made you cry would be worth the low risk if you had known what your true risk factors were?
"The restrictions on opioids in
terminal patients are a reaction to
the irresponsible use of opioids in
other patients."
The restrictions are due to a knee-jerk reaction to a false narrative that was created by the CDC & others, falsely blaming doctors and pain pts for the opioid crisis. The CDC knew from it's own data before they wrote the 2016 guidelines it was the illicit street drugs causing the high majority of the OD deaths. The VA also had a hand in this, forcing many veterans to see no alternatives. The same exact thing's happening to chronic pain, cancer & Sickle Cell Disease pts as their only choices are-
#1 Suffer horribly with decreased functioning/quality of life, often dying young due to medical collapse from the added stress on their bodies
#2 Turn to the street & take their chances with the illicit counterfeit Fentanyl killing them or
#3 Suicide.
This is their future eventhough the high majority of chronic pain pts do not have a problem with addiction. Pain prescription prescribing is the lowest it's been in well over 20+ yrs & have been declining since 2011. OD deaths from illegal drugs ie counterfeit Fentanyl, heroin & methamphetamines have skyrocketed, OD deaths from pain meds has not. Yet... people are still blaming patients & pain meds!!
Instead of responding "good that you got through it without drugs", you're going like "maybe I could have persuaded you to take some drugs anyway, because these studies say it's probably safe".
You're unwilling to listen and you can't help yourself but push pills and expensive treatments, no matter what.
My conclusion is that that may be the best way of dealing with the US medical system towards the end of life. It's another reason to retire outside the US, because I don't want to get caught up in the US medical system as I get older.
So let me get this straight – the educated advocate with many years of professional hands on experience, along with personal experience, just “refuses” to put all their knowledge aside to “listen” to the random internet person who has expressed little empathy, ignores medical facts & insists their personal beliefs, bias, opinions & ONE surgical experience are “superior.”
Yeah, I’m good with that analogy.
And no, I wouldn’t “pat you on the back” anymore than I would for a diabetic who told me they had a very high blood sugar level for 2 weeks, but…… everythings okay bc they managed to finally bring it down without taking drugs (insulin)…… eventhough it was 2 weeks of living Hell.
There is serious disconnect in the treatment of pain. True pain patients should not be deprived of their medications, but at the same time, handing out powerful pain medications for mild to moderate pain is foolish. That's where we started to have a problem, and that's solely on the shoulder's of pharmaceutical companiies who marketed their drugs far beyond what was safe. and the goverment who let them. In my job I get to see both sides of this issue. The patients who need their medication to have any meaningful life, and the patients who are just hopelessly addicted to medications they never should have been given in the first place. Ultimately, there has to be some trust in the physicians, who are now aware of how dangerous these drugs can be when not used properly, to treat their pain patients, while not handing out highly addictive drugs like candy. Neither side of this coin in pretty, and less regulation on doctor's is necessary. You can spot a pill mill a mile away. Most physicians in this country are not operating pill mills. They should be allowed to treat their pain patients with whatever therapy gives them the most meaningful life without interference by a government, who franklly, created the problem to begin with.
Powerful opioids should clearly not be the default option for treating all pain, both acute and chronic. But at present, over half of all US community clinics are refusing to take new patients for pain management of any kind. Millions of patients cannot find a doctor to treat their pain. The major causes of this outrageous condition are over-regulation by the US DEA and State Medical Boards, and the horrendously misdirected US CDC Guidelines on prescription of opioids.
Sums it up well. The DEA, State Medical Boards and CDC must hear from the American public that we will no longer be tortured to death based on anti-opiate ideology. New laws must be passed protecting patients.
Jon, if you want to participate in forcing the DEA, Medical Boards and CDC to listen, then look me up on Facebook. I'm easy to find. I'm mailing out a package of citizen lobbyist materials designed to help private citizens advocate effectively with their legislators.
No, the major causes of this outrageous condition is reckless, greedy, and lazy behavior by large numbers of physicians. Americans are pumped full of drugs and subjected to expensive medical procedures because it’s good for the bottom line, because it’s easy, and because it prevents physicians to have to accept responsibility for anything.
Excessive and unnecessary use of opioids is only a small symptom of this underlying problem. And the over-regulation of opioids is an attempt to address that symptom.
For a smart medical consumer who knows how to say “no”, the US is great because you can get any test, treatment, drug, and procedure you need.
For the average person, the US medical system will likely make them fat, sick, and/or drug addicted, and it is the doctors themselves that are to blame.
I must differ with you profoundly NOYBY2. Doctors didn't create the mess that is now American medicine. They are among its most deeply impacted victims. Law enforcement authorities empowered by the so-called "War on Drugs" are more than any other group responsible for the near-collapse of American pain medicine.
The term "smart medical consumer" is an oxymoron in this context. The lion's share of medical expenses is incurred during the last five years of life, and associated with heroic measures attempting to compensate for lifetimes of bad personal habits: smoking tobacco, diets high in salt and sugar, lack of regular exercise and adequate sleep. Arguably, the most effective forms of medicine are preventative, not curative.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. But try to tell that to someone who is 50 pounds overweight, with borderline Diabetes and smoking-related COPD.
And that's the problem with US medicine: all it does is tell people things. The financial burdens and pain have been removed from medicine as much as humanly possible for most people. So, people neither experience early warning signs of their bad habits (they are suppressed by various drugs), nor do they have a particularly great fear of surgery or other treatments (they get pumped full of painkillers).
And this system is very lucrative for doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, and drug companies, which is why they have supported it.
People don't give up harmful lifestyles because you tell them something, they change their behavior in response to financial costs, pain, and/or fear. Eliminate all of those, and you get widespread "bad personal habits" and a sick population.
I think it is crystal clear that the US medical profession is behaving irresponsibly and not serving its patients well. I think it's a combination of US culture, greed, laziness, and incompetence. This is at the heart of spiraling medical costs and poor public health in the US.
When it comes to opioids, they are greatly overprescribed in the US, meaning, they are prescribed for many patients that simply don't need them. And in an effort to rein in these irresponsible practices, people who actually need opioids for severe pain get caught in the crossfire.
"poor public" health --- the two keywords De jure.
Something about selling the idea that Gov-GUNS poking was healthy?
No, simply a statement of fact: Americans are sicker and live shorter lives than people in other advanced nations.
Government is responsible for this because of the system of socialized medicine it has created; that system socializes the cost of unhealthy choices and incentivizes doctors not to actually heal their patients.
And your solution for this government "subsidization" is what?
From 25 years of research and writing in this field, I must also gently inform you that "The Rule of Thirds" developed by some of the Greeks still applies. About a third of all ailments brought to a doctor will be cured by treatments the doctor provides. Another third will spontaneously be cured regardless of what the doctor does. And the final third will worsen.
The issue isn't the effectiveness of US doctors in curing disease (which is quite good compared to other nations), the issue is that Americans are sicker than other people in the first place.
Please don't put things into quotes that I didn't say.
The solution is to mostly privatize US healthcare and permit insurers to charge based on actual risk. E.g., if you are obese, your insurance premiums should double or triple.
People need price signals for their health status, and only a private market can provide those.
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