Nikki Haley Is Running for President
Expect a lot of harsh positioning on immigration and China.

It's unofficially official: Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley will be announcing later this month that she'll be running for the Republican nomination for president.
On February 15, Haley will be making a "special announcement" at the Charleston, South Carolina, Visitor Center, and it's widely reported that it'll be a formal declaration of her run for president.
Haley has been making the rounds on Fox News and planting seeds for her run, telling Bret Baier in January, "I think it's time for new, generational change. I don't think you don't need to be 80 years old to go be a leader in D.C.," and then excerpting that clip on Twitter. Her profile's pinned tweet right now is of a subsequent appearance on Sean Hannity's show during which she not-very-subtly hinted at a run.
Today, she tweeted a link to an interview from 2021 where she called for a cognitive test for older politicians, seen as a dig at President Joe Biden, 80, and an observation about former President Donald Trump, 76, who has already announced he's running again.
Haley served Trump as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations but stepped down in 2018. They notably disagreed with how to deal with Russia's aggressive behavior when Trump was in office. Haley called for more sanctions against Russia in 2018, but Trump resisted both her and Congress until reluctantly relenting. It seems likely that this difference in position will be a point of contention during the race.
Haley supports U.S. and NATO assistance in arming Ukraine against Russia and also wants the U.S. to take a harder line against China's oppressive government. It's worth noting that she doesn't see trade conflicts with countries like China as an excuse for domestic corporate handouts. She opposed a bill last year to provide billions in federal subsidies to the domestic semiconductor chip industry, sold by the Biden administration as a way to resolve supply chain issues and compete with China. (Reason's Eric Boehm has been calling out the problems with this plan for some time.)
Though, a good chunk of her objection was over concerns that the money would be funneled to China through the market: "The way to encourage innovation and strengthen our national security isn't through corporate handouts," she told Fox in July. "As Americans suffer from the worst inflation in 40 years, this legislation doesn't ensure that our best asset—our innovation—won't be funneled back to help Communist China. That's a bad deal for the American people."
So, on the one hand, she doesn't want corporate welfare, which is good. On the other hand, she's itching for a trade war with China, which is bad for consumers (and most definitely not a way to fight inflation).
Haley's Republican conservativism trends pretty mainstream—she is very opposed to abortion and favors strong borders with heavy police enforcement of immigration policies. As governor of South Carolina, she signed a bill that created an immigration enforcement unit and required police to check the citizenship of anybody they stopped to make sure they were in the country legally. The law also mandates that private employers use the flawed E-Verify system to prove that people they hire are legally in the country, putting her in good company with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, with whom she may compete in the race for the Republican nomination.
As for some of the other culture war populism that has animated both the left and the right, Haley opposes the teaching of critical race theory in schools and has called for every governor in the country to ban funding for its teaching. But she supports school choice and parents' rights to provide their kids the education that they want. She, like DeSantis, is stumbling into the conservative populist contradiction of refusing to consider that some parents support teaching their children subjects Haley doesn't approve of.
As for LGBT issues that might come up in the primary, in 2016 as governor she said South Carolina didn't need a bill proposed by Republican lawmakers mandating that people use the public restrooms that match the sex listed on their birth certificates. But she opposes letting trans women compete in sports alongside other women and has complained about "woke culture" weakening the military in some vague fashion.
Her former boss, Trump, is so far the only Republican to formally announce a run for the presidency. He responded to her plans with a post on Truth Social that "Nikki has to follow her heart, not her honor. She should definitely run!" He included a clip of Haley from 2021 from a press conference where she said that she would not run for president if Trump ran.
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Nikki Haley is a bigot. No wonder she figures she would be an attractive candidate among right-wingers.
If she isn’t capable of turning the rest of the nation into a cultural war victor paradise like Chicago, she should not be allowed to run.
cultural war victor paradise
More like a culture war Viktor Orban paradise, amirite?
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South Carolina is an uneducated, bigoted, desolate culture war casualty, still closer to the Confederacy's traitors, bigots, and losers than to modern America -- and it's Nikki Haley Country!
South Carolina is no Chicago, that’s for sure.
South Carolina is an uneducated, bigoted, desolate culture war casualty
Yeah, just look at the universities. Total trash.
So….. do you converse with people in this fashion face to face?
I don’t know that much about her. What did she say/do that was bigoted?
She said men aren't women.
GASP!
How shocking! Next thing you know, she'll call the sky blue, say that a cat is not a dog, and that a skunk is not a rose.
She is a superstitious gay-basher who appeases and assists other delusional, obsolete gay-haters, for starters.
Say, aren't you the guy cheerleading the current fad of castrating confused teenage gays and telling them that they're actually girls?
Arty hates gays!
Um – sounds good, as far as it goes. But even if she thinks that, she lacks the spine to back it up. I’d rate her chances of being the Republican nominee for president at 0.001% greater than my own. She doesn’t bring much to the table as another candidate’s “running mate”, either. It’s very unlikely that I’d vote for the Democrat for president in 2024, but Nikki as the Republican candidate could be the catalyst for just that.
Brown people can’t be bigots, you bigot!
Until about 1980, Indians were considered White according to the US Census, so by this standard she is a bigot along with all Whiteys.
Well, a lot of northern Indians are literally Aryan.
Since India is a country where blackness is considered a skin disease, I'm sure many Indians would insist they're white.
China Spy Balloon over Montana. The $1T a year Pentagon has been tracking it for days before it entered US airspace. But I suppose all our Ground to Air missiles were sent to Ukraine so the Neocon Globalists who control our Foreign Policy can get back at the Czar for what he did to their people 150 years ago. It is always about that with those folks..old world grudges.
Since Corn Pop has too much invested in Hunter's dealings with China I advise the great Gov of Montana to call up his Air National Guard..get some F15s in the air and shoot the Tik Tok Spy Balloon down..Corn Pop might be a coward and degenerate, but real American is waking up...Russia isn't the enemy...the bolshies who have taken over DC are
They advised Biden not to shoot it down, because the debris could be a danger to people on the ground. Debris. From a balloon.
I think they meant debris from the weapon used to shoot it down.
That balloon has a payload that would scatter and may contain hazardous material. I would also think the military would like to get it down in one piece to study it.
It's both/and. After all, Red China and Putin's regime are both allies.
You just attacked a POC you fucking racist.
Wood or would?
Would Chipper?
If you know what I mean.
Would with wood?
Guess the country either doesn’t currently have a president or all is good with that person.
Counted the word Trump six (6) times.
It’s unreal.
She spent years with her nose up Trump's ass, supporting and appeasing Trump and his worthless, un-American supporters. That is most of what makes her a national figure, the figurative fellating of the bigoted, downscale MAGA movement.
While Biden, the current big guy, is given a free pass Reason spends its time focusing on someone that will not get the nomination. They will also use the article as a vehicle to continue their Trump obsession.
Focusing? They ran one article saying she's going to run for President. Each person who decides to run will get a similar article, including whatever nutball the Mises Cult puts up.
China spy balloon relaying Tik Tok back to Biden's back door buddy in Bejing.
Arty, democrats aren’t Americans. You’re just a territorial resident. The definition of un-American.
She'll be running against Trump in the primaries. That's her initial focus.
If I dont vote for her is it because of my internalized misogyny?
Just asking for clarification
How could you possibly vote for her? She’s white!
Um, in the picture she's five shades darker than Meghan Markle.
I'm pretty sure she's technically half Indian, but I guess the (R) after her name makes her 100% white.
The "touch of the whitewash brush" rule.
One conservative drop rule.
Huh, sounds like she is 100% Indian(-American). Her actual first name is “Nimrata” and her parents are Sikh.
How does that make her different from a white person?
She doesn't owe reparations?
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The Indian face of white supremacy.
Well, that and your anti-Asian bigotry.
I only care about how she does her punjob.
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If there's one thing the national press cannot abide, it's an uppity woman.
Haley/Gabbard 2024 - vote the HAWT party ticket.
I don't think Gabbard will want her on the ticket.
When they make out during the primary debates and sweep themselves to a victory unseen since Nixon/McGovern, she'll be fine with it.
*Whoa!*. I'd like to see them make out!
🙂
Haley/Noem?
Though I think Noem/Gabbard would be the hottest ticket. But that one is probably even less likely.
I like this. I think I'm going to just start supporting whatever candidate I want to fuck the most. Probably better than how most people decide how to vote.
Instead of giving speeches, they can just make out at the podium for 20 minutes.
I've never followed her closely, but have a generally positive view of her. Some of the things listed here are things that make me less likely to support her, but others are positive.
Is this how Reason is going to cover all electoral politics? Are they going to run hit pieces against every Republican who says anything in public? So far, that seems to be their priority
Is this how Reason is going to cover all electoral politics?
Yes. And China/US relations will always be presented in a way that favors China.
Hit? The article was fairly neutral.
As neutral as HO2?
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More like HCl.
She sucks.
Establishment/WEF republican who jumped at the chance to worship Saint George Floyd and warmongers with the rest of them.
Yes, because Reason is a libertarian publication, not a Republican mouthpiece.
No, they're a progressive leftist publication dancing in a skinsuit of a libertarian reputation. I can see why you wouldn't get that.
"Reason is a libertarian publication"
Chuckle
I have to say, even as hit jobs go, this one is pretty pathetic. As much as I like Haley, personally, she's a neo-con fully supportive of global hyper-interventionism. You'd think a hatchet job in an ostensibly libertarian publication would make more of that than a couple of bored throwaway lines.
How much further can they go without either throwing Biden under a bus or making Trump look good by comparison?
I just saw Haley’s comment, she waved
Haley’s comments tend to be meatier, right?
Now you'll have to wait another 76 years to see Haley's comment again.
But she opposes letting "trans women" compete in sports alongside
otherwomen.Fixed it.
Fixed it.
Are you sure? I'm not entirely clear he didn't mean "icky, bleeding-gashed, yeast-infected, biological losers". I mean, I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt but, given the way he represented disputes about bathroom ownership, parental rights in education, the rights of community members to determine what goes on their library shelves, etc., etc., etc. I see no reason at all not to assume he's just the shittiest person you know next to SPBP(2).
"harsh positioning on immigration"
Awwwwww does this mean Reason's sugar daddy Charles Koch wouldn't get to inflate his inherited fortune with cheap imported labor in a hypothetical Haley Administration? 🙁
Well don't worry. She probably won't become Prez. Maybe she'll be someone's VP pick.
But she opposes letting trans women compete in sports alongside other women and has complained about "woke culture" weakening the military in some vague fashion.
Reason, stop it, now you're turning this into a campaign spot for Haley. Where do I donate?
She's a Trumpist opportunist. That's bad.
But I'm not hating her stated policies.
Trade with China is the mechanism by which we outsource our pollution and slavery.
Corporations get to pollute and enslave, and progs get to point to govt run China as an example of the glories of govt run economies. Win-win.
But with open borders, we maintain a healthy slave trade here at home.
But she opposes letting trans women compete in sports alongside other women
So, an utterly normal position to hold and one that most peole in america agree with. The horror.
Dont make me defend Nikki freakin Haley goddammit.
and has complained about "woke culture" weakening the military in some vague fashion.
This is incontrovertibly clear. It is abundantly true.
The top male chess players score about 200 FIDE points ahead of the top women players. Why? Wikipedia to the rescue:
"Chess players, both men and women, have speculated on the reasons behind the gap in chess achievements by women compared to men. Some women players believe the major reason is due to cultural expectations and bias. Jennifer Shahade, a FIDE Woman Grandmaster and the women's program director at the United States Chess Federation (USCF), said there is a large drop-off of girls at the USCF around the ages of 12 and 13, which she attributes to the lack of a social network for girls that age in chess.[13] Polgár said that society and some parents may weaken the desire of young female chess players to improve,[14] and that women were often held back by lower ambition by choosing to compete in all-women tournaments rather than open tournaments.[15] Jovanka Houska, an International Master and Woman Grandmaster, argued that overconfidence by boys gives an advantage over girls.[16]
In a 2007 study at the University of Padua, male and female players of similar ability were matched up with each other on online games. When the players were unaware of their opponent's sex, female players won slightly under half their games. When female players were told their opponent was male, they played less aggressively, and they won about one in four games. However, when female players were told their opponent was female, even though they were actually male, they were as aggressive as the male players and won about one in two games. The researchers argued that gender stereotypes may have led female players to lower their self-esteem and self-confidence when they know they are playing male players, causing them to play defensively which worsened their performance.[17][15]
Some male players have commented on women's performance in chess. In a 1963 interview, Bobby Fischer was dismissive of female players, calling them "terrible" and said it was because "[women] are not so smart".[18] In 2015, Nigel Short argued that male players performed better because men and women were "hard-wired" for different skills,[19] which was met with controversy.[20] In 2022, Ilya Smirin, while broadcasting live during the ninth round of the FIDE Women's Grand Prix 2022-23, said that chess was "maybe not for women", and also praised a woman for playing like a man.[21] FIDE apologized through Twitter and called Smirin's comments embarrasing and offensive. The same day FIDE fired Smirin for making "offensive remarks".[22]"
Nigel Short's book on his tournament with Gary Kasparov mentions how exhausting a tournament, a game a day for a few weeks, can be. Physically and emotionally.
Is there a point to all this?
mtrueman is trying to say that chess is the same as warfare or contact sports, or something.
Imagine if the player in the key position of football, the quarterback, were called 'the queen' instead.
Like if they made him wear tights where other men tried to jump on top of him afterwards? There could be another man in a different costume running around, blowing a whistle and occasionally throwing a brightly colored flag doing a Rip Torn impersonation?
"Is there a point to all this?"
I'm glad you asked. You see, the top men chess players score about 200 point above the top women players. Why? People have tried to answer in various ways. Wikipedia gives us some of their explanations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_chess
I'll take that as a "no".
It seems to depend to some extent on whether the play is online or over the board, in which women perhaps suffer a psychological disadvantage. The burning question is whether this psychological disadvantage is manifest against a transexual opponent.
Now do competitive shooting.
There doesn't seem to be much difference between men and women in shooting and archery. Even at times giving an advantage to women. (I heard the words 'low center of gravity' bandied about.) Diana, Roman goddess of the hunt, is traditionally depicted with a bow and arrow. (The Korean women's Olympic archery team were national heroines.)
Important caveat: I'm referring to shooting as a sport. Mass shootings like Sandy Hook etc are perpetrated by men and women are not involved.
I'm inclined to agree with Judit Polgar that the existence of women's brackets for purely intellectual activities (like chess) are belittling and self-reinforcing. A man choosing to compete in a women's weightlifting competition is ruining the integrity of the sport, but a man choosing to compete in a women's chess tournament is just insulting himself (his opponents have already insulted themselves by participating as well). Men and women are built differently, their brains are built differently even, but there's nothing to suggest that women are simply not capable of various intellectual or dexterity-based activities and those that settle for a lower standard of excellence than men demean themselves.
"I’m inclined to agree with Judit Polgar that the existence of women’s brackets for purely intellectual activities (like chess) are belittling and self-reinforcing. "
I tend to agree, though Short has a point that no competition is 'purely intellectual.' There is also psychology and stamina and the ability to focus.
"but a man choosing to compete in a women’s chess tournament is just insulting himself "
Comedian Andy Kaufman, billing himself as the world champion of men wrestling women, made a living at it for a while.
"but there’s nothing to suggest that women are simply not capable of various intellectual or dexterity-based activities"
There's a lot to indicate this.
My understanding is that all male endeavors are actually coed and women's brackets exist either for physical disparity or to increase participation by women leaving out cultural sex mixing taboos.
Are they demeaning, maybe but they also serve a purpose overall. If the segregation is physical the trans thing should be a non-starter, if it's for inclusion then whatever.
Do trans chess sets have two queens?
All of the pieces are queens.
But then Bert would not be able to polish Ernie’s bishop.
When has that ever stopped him?
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Or Kings or both or neither.
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And the bishops are Protestant.
We can skip competitive shooting here. Annie Oakley taught us you can’t get a trans with a gun.
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That's probably part of it. Another big part of it is that almost any measured attribute will plot on a bell curve - and the bell curve for biological men is almost always wider than the curve for biological women. In other words, even though men and women have almost identical average intelligence, there are more extremely smart men than women and extremely stupid men than women. There are more extremely tall men - and extremely short men. More men than can jump extremely long distances and more men that can't jump at all. More extreme extroverts - and more extreme introverts.
The leading causal argument is that these are at least partially linked to X-chromosome influenced traits. A man, having only one X-chromosome, gains the benefit or suffers the penalty from whatever that one roll of the die happens to be. A woman, by contrast, feels the effect of two X-chromosomes which are (to a very crude approximation and oversimplification) averaged together. A man rolls a die and has a 1-in-6 chance of getting a six. A woman rolls two die, averages the result, and has a 1-in-36 chance of getting a six - fully six times less likely, but is also six times less likely to get a one.
"More men than can jump extremely long distances and more men that can’t jump at all."
Seems so unfair. Men win both the jumping competition and the not jumping at all competition.
And also the going to prison competition and the dying in stupid ways competition and the getting killed in work accidents competition and the being completely mentally retarded competition. Life is so hard on women these days.
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Yup. The X-chromosome hypothesis explains why developmental issues are more common in male than in female embryos. and why with the exception of autoimmune disorders, women tend to have better response to disease. (A possible reason for the autoimmune disorder exception may be that on occasion, the two X chromosomes, in effect, regard the other as "foreign" - but biologists aren't sure of the reason.)
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But she complained about it in a vague fashion, apparently.
Tucker Carlson killed her campaign last night by saying she was pro-BLM, anti-Confederate monument, and raised taxes as Gov of SC.
Whether true or not its out there in the wingnut slipstream.
Does a guy who masturbates to M&M's really have that kind of influence?
Melts in your mouth, not in your hand.
Cite?
You’re responding to Shrike, but to you Tucker Carlson is the pervert……..
Goddam, you’re a piece of shit.
Who the hell cares what Tucker Cuckson says?
About 8x CNNs entire audience.
Plus the NeverTrump crowd (admittedly, there's quite an overlap here).
More like 15x lately. CNN has lost more viewers of late.
She, like DeSantis, is stumbling into the conservative populist contradiction of refusing to consider that some parents support teaching their children subjects Haley doesn't approve of.
Is that what they are doing? Or is it just that public schools can't please everyone and should stay away from subjects that are hugely controversial?
Some parents also support teaching children that black people are inherently inferior, or that accepting Jesus into your heart is the only path to salvation. But I'm pretty sure very few people think those are appropriate subjects to be taught in public schools.
Last I checked parents can teach their kids anything they want. The issue is whether the government should teach children CRT racism. Not seeing the contradiction. There is nothing libertarian about teaching children that their skin color determines there worth. In fact it is the opposite. That Reason continues to pimp for this shit is appalling.
Yeah, I have no idea where they are seeing a contradiction there. Government is deciding the curriculum either way. I honestly don't think libertarian principle has anything to say about the validity of teaching CRT racism one way or another. But as long as there are public schools it is absolutely a valid topic for public debate and I certainly hope it comes down on the side of not teaching any brand of racism or radical social theory.
" I honestly don’t think libertarian principle has anything to say about the validity of teaching CRT racism one way or another"
Yikes!
CRT racism is absolutely a violation of libertarian principles in exactly the same way KKK racism is. Neither has a place as public school teaching or the praxis that applies history to the current audience. It's one thing to talk about the history of reconstruction USA and groups like the KKK's part in that even in gory detail, CRT racism makes the current audience complicit in the crimes of history.
KKK- antagonistic
CRT- paternalistic
Both are racist to the core.
Yeah, like it’s a “conservative contradiction” that there might be subject matter floating about the ether that [Haley] doesn’t approve of. If that’s our metric, stop the world, I want to get off.
Oh which reminds me, “The dark history of jewish money-lending” will be taught next semester… sign up while there’s still room!
"I'm not comfortable with that as a class subject"
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Is it or is it not a conservative principle that parents should be the ones to decide what subject matter their children learn? If so, where soes "subject matter ... that [Haley] doesn't approve of" enter into that equation?
Another aspiring economic imperialist and crusader willing to spend money we don't have. Bummer.
Will she or Gretchen Whitmer get more of the wine mom vote is the question. If the donkey party nominates anyone other than Whitmer and Haley is the GOP pick, Haley wins.
So are we just discounting Strong Black Woman out of hand here or what...
Nikki Haley has zero chance of getting the nomination.
I don't vote for neocons. Whatever else he may be, Trump is not a neocon.
No need to run. She'll get the same 1% if she walks.
As a neo-con in proud standing, there simply isn't any constituency left in the GOP for her. As a R, no D will ever vote for her, viewing her as a traitor to women and her race.
The neocons love her because they think they can use the ca. 2005 “Dems R Da Reel Sexists/Raycists” card if she gets the nomination. They still haven’t figured out that accusing the left of hypocrisy is pointless because deliberate hypocrisy, aka repressive tolerance, is a cornerstone of their ideology.
This isn't true, plenty of Republicans see it as America's right to be the global arbiters of what is right. Now if that's all she has it won't win but you're fooling yourself if you think a neocon revival in the GOP isn't possible, it just takes the right marketing of the "right" wars.
Not my favorite Republican, but a Haley versus Trump or a Haley versus DeSantis, Haley comes out on top by a huge margin. And she would wipe the floor with either Biden or Harris.
Polls suggest otherwise.
What about Haley vs Harris?
Kramer versus Kramer
Gabbard/Trump 2024!
Nope. What a ridiculous statement. No wonder you’re serially ridiculed here.
Stalking horse for Trump.
TRUMP!
Like I posted about her yesterday, Haley's an empty suit who's only getting attention because she makes neocon hearts go aflutter. Unlike DeSantis, she also benefitted from being governor of an extremely red state with very little political risk for her decisions.
Arthur L. Hicklib's typical partisan bitchery aside, if the left isn't scared of her, it's because they know she'll roll over at the slightest bit of pushback. She needs to show she's willing to take a giant crap on the media to get any traction with the GOP base, especially after that CJR article that got released yesterday.
She needs to do a blood test and find that she has both African and Native American ancestors. It'd be fun to see how the Democrats manage to criticize a Black, Indian, Woman. And maybe Haley could identify as a man.
Trump made a promise to God, under his constitutional Oath of Office to NOT violate the U.S. Constitution - so they both lied! Trump’s lie seems way worse.
Under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (Disqualification Clause) Trump is disqualified from ever running again. All we are missing is a “cop on the beat” to enforce the 14th Amendment. So far there are none to be found.
Both Haley and DeSantis have shown competence in an executive office, so while I may disagree with some of their policies, they are a step up from the former President. They are a step up from both the former and current President in that they are younger than me, and I like that fact. What I would like both Haley and DeSantis to do is to get away from culture and instead focus on important policy issues. I think the national debt is more important than drag queens.
A bellicose, interventionist foreign policy would be very hard for me to overlook. Nothing stands in the way of libertarian aspirations like keeping the country on a constant war footing.
I don't think anyone would disagree with your concerns and that is why policy matters. America is a superpower. The American people enjoy that status, but also must understand that comes with responsibilities. The question that must be asked is how the candidate sees our country's responsibilities and how their foreign policy would reflect their views.
I would like to see a foreign policy heavier on diplomacy and building alliances, rather than through confrontations. Intervention through alliances and support, rather than direct military support. I think the Biden administration is doing a relatively good job here and for the current time, I would assess any candidate's policy relative to that policy.
So you’re an opponent of the current administration?
She’s dot, not feather. I hope that eases any reservations you might have.
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