If We Can't Abolish the No-Fly List, Can We at Least Keep It Safe?
Reviewing and improving the federal government’s data security and digital defenses should be a priority.

Whoops, we leaked the no-fly list.
And by "we" I mean CommuteAir, a regional airline whose insecure server, accessed by a Swiss hacker named maia arson crimew, included a file helpfully named NoFly.csv, which turned out to be a 2019 version of the U.S. government's no-fly list. The Daily Dot, which first reported on the story, notes that the list has around 1.5 million entries—though many of those are aliases for a much smaller number of individuals—and includes both names and birthdates. It's a subset of the broader Terrorist Screening Database, and both lists are chock-full of civil liberties and due process violations.
Meanwhile, the Justice Department continues to discover more classified documents in various buildings associated with President Joe Biden. The president is both cooperating with the investigation—which is to say, inviting the FBI to search his Delaware home to see what else might have slipped his mind and federal document security procedures—and insisting to the public that there's "no there there." And though this mishandling of classified documents is less egregious than former President Donald Trump's mishandling of classified documents, even congressional Democrats seem to find Biden's denials unconvincing.
The ideal libertarian policy response to these debacles would be a major overhaul of the systems in question: establish transparent due process for no-fly list placement and appeal—or abolish the list altogether—and rethink the whole system of classified documents and state secrets.
But that's not going to happen for the foreseeable future, so let's set a more modest goal, one achievable for the Congress we actually have: to review and improve the federal government's data security and digital defenses.
That this is necessary has been obvious for a long time, since well before any of these present scandals. There was the big 2015 breach of the Office of Personnel Management, which revealed around 21 million people's personal information to foreign hackers. And the 2016 leak of National Security Agency cyber weapons. And Wikileaks' 2017 revelation of "more than 8,000 documents detailing various CIA cyberwarfare and electronic surveillance activities." And the 2021 leak of Internal Revenue Service data on very rich people. And, yes, "her emails," the private email server (and personal Blackberry) Hillary Clinton used while serving as secretary of state in the Obama administration.
And those are just the big ones, the ones that made the news, the ones that are comparatively easy to recall a few years after the fact. They're also all federal in scale, but it's not like states, municipalities, and other lower levels of government—to say nothing of private companies that interact with government data, like CommuteAir with the no-fly list or any account tied to our Social Security numbers or tax information—are fully secure.
Our elections are all handled by those smaller government entities (there are more than 10,000 election authorities in this country), and though our fears aren't always rational, election security has understandably been a major concern for the better part of a decade. Life-sustaining utilities have been shown vulnerable to hacking too, as with 2021's Colonial Pipeline ransomware attack and smaller incidents like the hack of a water treatment plant near Tampa.
In many cases, as I've argued before, we could relatively easily improve security by being a bit less online. Paper trails in elections, manual overrides for utilities (with workers who know how to use them), and air-gapped computer systems all offer basic and easily intelligible security which only requires us to return to perfectly viable modes of operation from the very recent past. The 1990s were not the dark ages, and it is better to keep some things analog than to have real qualms about election integrity or poisonous tap water.
But that suggestion obviously isn't a panacea, as these documents scandals indicate. Trump reportedly had poor digital security practices while president, and Biden's use of a Peloton bike and an Apple watch has raised questions about his device security. These classified papers, though, were papers.
And my guess—despite lawmakers' claims about their own trustworthiness in document handling—is that Biden and Trump aren't alone among current and former presidents, members of Congress, and other high-ranking federal officials who have classified documents where they are not supposed to be.
It strains credulity to imagine that Sen. Joseph R. Biden pioneered the sin of taking work papers back to his home office circa 2008. (News that former Vice President Mike Pence also kept classified papers at home broke while I was writing this very article.)
And it's similarly implausible, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic and amid post-pandemic work-from-home habits, that no other classified documents have made a similar journey. (Washington, D.C., has the highest telecommuting rate of any major American city, a statistic driven in large part by federal agencies' telework policies.) Keep your secret work papers at work is almost certainly not an adequate documents policy in an increasingly digitized, work-from-home environment.
We don't have to speculate to know our government's digital defenses are lacking. Here's how bad the situation is, as told by a single figure Reuters reported in 2017, citing multiple senior intelligence officials: "Across the federal government, about 90 percent of all spending on cyber programs is dedicated to offensive efforts." And if 90 percent goes to offense, at most we're spending 10 percent on defense.
The government of the wealthiest and most powerful country on earth—the government that likes to play world police and keep a huge nuclear arsenal and hoover up millions of innocent people's personal information—that government has decided to spend $9 in $10 on "penetrating the computer systems of adversaries, listening to communications and developing the means to disable or degrade infrastructure," the officials told Reuters. It leaves just the change to keep its own data and systems safe.
That's absurdly reckless, and even a Congress as divided, performative, and incompetent as ours should be able to see it. Federal data security and digital defenses aren't exactly thrilling topics, but they also aren't partisan issues, and securing America against Russian and/or Chinese meddling—take your pick, as partisanship directs—ought to be a popular policy goal right now. Stories like the no-fly list leak and reports of bipartisan presidential carelessness should drive home the political neutrality and necessity of this reform.
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>>And though this mishandling of classified documents is less egregious than former President Donald Trump's mishandling of classified documents
why? you were adulting so well ...
Biden kept his in various locations so they couldn't be stolen all at once.
it's like "less egregious" is not the most arguable thing in the piece
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The information involved may be less egregious than what the deep-TDS folks at one point assumed (nuclear launch codes in the minds of many individual) was contained in the documents that trump had at Maralago. I'm not entirely sure why the no-fly list actually needs to be kept secret, assuming its existence serves any real purpose at all.
One thing that's a huge factor, though is the format of the information. The hard copy files held by trump, Biden, and Pence (as well as probably dozens of other current/former officials both elected and appointed if anyone were to look) in their private homes would only have been accessible to anyone that might have been physically present in those buildings (some of which were under Secret Service guard at least part time) and probably left unattended and knowing where to look.
Information stored on any computer connected to the internet is subject to being accessed by hackers of varying intentions who are located almost anywhere in the world, likely without any need to leave their own homes if they choose not to do so. This fact is the reason why the rules for handling classified information almost always prohibit storing that information on any computer connected to the outside internet.
This would apply to the no-fly list as well as to any/all classified Dept of State material that was handled via HRC's private server/email device (as well as on a laptop which was apparently shared by both Huma Abedin and Anthony Weiner). If the DHS has to supply the DNF list to airlines without requiring them to only allow cleared employees to access it and for it to be stored on "air-gapped" machines or LAN's without any connection to the outside internet, then that data should not be classified in the first place.
I whole heartedly agree that the far better solution is to not have the "Do Not Fly List" at all, especially when there are already separate FBI/CIA watch lists which hopefully are better constructed and maintained.
I'm pretty sure we want this data to leak. Considering there is no other way to prove you are on it, and thus to contest being on it.
Rule #1: there is no flight club.
Rule #2: THERE IS NO FLIGHT CLUB.
Stop mentioning flight club. You are not a precious little snowflake...
Remember when Ted Kennedy wound up on it and got himself removed in like a day because he matters and you don't?
Good times.
The list should be published on the front page of the New York Times, along with the reason why each person is on it so they can contest it in court.
If it's that easy to hack, Reason should take the lead and publish the list themselves, not complain that it's not secret enough.
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The Trump reference count is three (3). In an article about no-fly lists, Reason airs on the side of boaf.
—and insisting to the public that there's "no there there."
What does this have to do with Gertrude and Alice?
Whoops, we leaked the no-fly list.
Not a problem for me. All the girlies say I'm pretty fly.
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If he looks twice, they'll kick his lily ass.
knew a girl who drove a Pinto with holes in floorboard. you could see the pavement.
Those are great for dumping your beer if you get pulled over.
1: government should not keep this secret.
2: government does not keep it secret.
3: government should do a better job keeping it secret.
4: ???
5: Profit by working for the woke media!
I don’t approve of no-fly lists on principle. But I guess those particular murderous douche bags who perpetrated 9-11 are among those I’d make an exception for.
You know which other murderous douche bag I’d make an exception for?
Those murderous douchebags be dead.
Putin? He’s the most murderous douche bag on the planet right now ass far ass my “smell test” is working!
Butt seriously, the whole thing makes ZERO sense to anyone except power-grabbing servants of Government Almighty, and their hangers-on! Either…
‘A) Check everyone’s butthole for more than ??? 6 ounces of explosive shampoo (or REAL poo???) in a bottle in yer butthole there, lest ye blow up our plane… Thereby keeping us WAAAY the hell safe…
or ‘B) Make a list of ALL suspected terrorists, especially 2-year-olds name “Muhammad”… (I do know that many 2-year-olds ARE yea verily terrorists)… And keep them OFF of the planes!
(A and B are totally redundant! One or the other, please, for us poor consumers and taxpayers!)
‘C) Last butt not least, WHY in the bloody hell are we NOT allowed to know if we’re on the list, or not?!??! This is totally perverse, pointless secrecy! It even… OMG, prepare yerself now… It hurts Mamma-Gaia-Earth, SOOO intensely and extra-hard, for me to BURN GAS to the airport, to only THEN find out that I am NOT allowed to fly! Why do our OverLards HATE the Earth so much?
Our nation is run by irredeemably stupid, arrogant jerks and assholes!
Hillary?
Reason is now against acts of journalism and for keeping government secrets?
From the article...
"The ideal libertarian policy response to these debacles would be a major overhaul of the systems in question: establish transparent due process for no-fly list placement and appeal—or abolish the list altogether—and rethink the whole system of classified documents and state secrets. "
Yeah, it sure sounds like Reason.com is lusting after turning the USA into a secretly-run-by-our-Secret-OverLards Stalinist gulag!
rethink the whole system of classified documents and state secrets. ”
Well yeah, now that SleepyJoe got caught with the goods.
Taxes are for the little people! (Leona Helmsley)
Rules are for the little people! (All of the power-pig assholes, ever)
“Rank hath its privileges”, didn’t-cha know? (This applies to BOTH SIDES, BTW)
Not really relevant, but I’m not surprised.
"Well yeah, now that SleepyJoe got caught with the goods."
Goods = national security secret docs, right?
"Rules are for the little people", to include handling of secrets!!! Hello?
Maybe SleepyJoe is becoming SloppyJoe? Maybe Sleepy-Sloppy-Joe should follow in some well-trodden footsteps, and declare that He can project mental-magic mindpower, and mentally declassify secrets on the run, at will! https://www.thewrap.com/trump-hannity-false-claim-declassify-by-thinking-about-it-video/ Trump Claims Presidents Can Declassify Things Just ‘By Thinking About It’
Only the president has that power, SleepyJoe was not the president when he stole the documents.
Butt he is President-Emperor now! All that he’s got to do, is to deploy his mental-magic mind-beams, ass Trump hath Shown him the Way!
Well, OK, they WERE secrets then, but they are not NOW secrets AFTER the use of the mental-magic mind-beams. And HOW did they get to Sleepy-Sloppy-Joe's house way back when? It was the LIZARD PEOPLE who did it, NOT Sleepy-Sloppy-Joe!
Keep your secret work papers at work is almost certainly not an adequate documents policy in an increasingly digitized, work-from-home environment.
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I wonder if the government should require people on the no-fly list to wear a distinctive badge when out in public.
Why would we not want the No Fly List public?
I mean, it's already in the hands of the airlines - so it's not 'classifued'.
Keeping it private prevents the public from overseeing it's scope and for people to vet it's accuracy.
No, the list is not in the hands of the airlines. The airlines or TSA submit names of passengers to the no-fly database and are sent a confirmation if the names are on the list.