Brickbat: Sail On

Currently, people from the Philippines account for a quarter of the world's merchant mariners. But the European Commission is considering a move that would bar people from the Philippines from serving onboard ships registered in European Union countries. This follows a determination by the European Maritime Safety Agency that maritime education institutions in the Philippines didn't meet standards set by the International Convention on Standards of Training, Certification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers. Under the proposed rule, the European Union would not recognize new competency certificates issued in the Philippines, though it would continue to recognize current certificates until they expire, which could be at most five years.

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[Inigo Montoya]

It might make more sense to require maritime education to meet certain standards rather than bar people of a particular nationality. But then this is the EU we’re taking about, so never mind.

[defaultdotxbe]

It seems they are barring certs from the Philippines, not necessarily Filipinos with with certs from other countries, so I imagine most will just re-certify with an EU country.

[kcuch]

So... an Employment Tax to the EU?

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[DRM]

I doubt that. The much easier move is for EU-registered ships to re-register under a different flag, so that their crewing costs don't go up. The Malta and Cyprus registries will be particularly hard-hit, as the flag-of-convenience states that are two of the EU's three largest registries. (Greece is also a large registry, but generally not counted as a flag-of-convenience state.)

That, incidentally, is why I expect that the European Commission won't actually go ahead with this. The re-registration dodge is so obvious, and the lack of benefit to any EU states to offset what happens to the Malta and Cyprus registries so clear, that it'll get killed off by internal politics.

[Brandybuck]

I don't actually see much of a problem here. When an entire nation has bad certification, you don't want to honor certifications from that country.

Nothing is stopping Filipinos from getting a certification elsewhere.

[Don't look at me!]

Cite?

[ducksalad]

Nothing? All visa requirements or waiting periods are waived for those who seeking maritime certificates?

I’ll tell those guys hanging around the south end of the bridge that they’re wasting time with the asylum claims. Just say they want to be ship’s officers and they’re in.

Seriously, ask a Filipino how easy it is to get a visa to go to Europe. I’m half-Filipino so I’ll tell you – real damn hard.

PS Not saying their maritime certificates don't suck. I wouldn't know.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Filipinos I'm sure can always pay the EU its fees to get certified.

[GroundTruth]

If a Filipino has been working on an EU flag craft for several years, then the master or owner knows the person well enough to decide himself if it’s a good investment to just send the seaman to EU approved school and get the EU certification.

The bigger problem seems to be sloppy writing on regarding who has been barred: all Filipinos vs anyone with a Philipines-issued ticket.

[kcuch]

a determination by the European Maritime Safety Agency that maritime education institutions in the Philippines didn't meet standards set by the International Convention on Standards of Training, Certification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers.

if 25% of the sailors are trained to less than Mandated Standards and there hasn't been a significant number of incidents/accidents/losses attributable to the lack of Standards (and/or flips) perhaps the Standards themselves should be looked at for not meeting Standards.

[mad.casual]

The US should get rid of The Jones Act and adopt arbitrage rules more like the EU so that PR will stop being a shithole.

I feel like the artist formerly known and OBL missed an opportunity here.

[Don't look at me!]

The jones act is not the reason PR is a shithole.

[defaultdotxbe]

Perhaps not, but we should still get rid of it (the Jone Act, not PR)

[MatthewSlyfield]

Is there some particular reason why we cant get rid of both?

[Brandybuck]

No, but it is a contributing factor. Regardless, Jones Act should be abolished for a thousand other reasons.

[mad.casual]

No, but it is a contributing factor.

No, it really isn’t. At best it’s why we dump $10M into it to make it an $10M shithole instead of $8M to make it an $8M shithole.

And Reason’s continued insistence that we should get rid of it in order to make PR better off and adopt cabotage rules like the EU’s are not two of them.

[Brandybuck]

It's a contributing factor because Puerto Rico is not allowed to trade with anyone not having a US flagged ship. For an island territory, that's a problem. Hawaii mostly doesn't have this problem because Hawaii has a major port.

Not sure how big of a factor it is, but it's definitely there.

[mad.casual]

It’s a contributing factor because Puerto Rico is not allowed to trade with anyone not having a US flagged ship.

Good God you're as retarded as Reason is on this. Foreign ships can dock at the Port of San Juan and, despite your retardation, its the 10th busiest port in the US. They just have to choose whether they're going to PR or the US mainland (or USVI), not both. Nothing in the Jones Act prevents foreign ships from docking in one US port.

And again, it's a non-factor. The Jones Act has as much to do with PR being a shit hole as it does with Detroit or Baltimore or the South Side of Chicago or LA being a shit hole.

Hawaii mostly doesn’t have this problem because Hawaii has a major port.

You're a fucking retard. Look, you may not have heard of or been to the Port of San Juan or the Port of Ponce or any one of a half-dozen other ports in PR, but just because you're a dumbass who can't pick up a geography book doesn't mean you have to foist your stupid on everybody else.

[mad.casual]

Yeah. And the EU's cabotage (not arbitrage, damnit!) rules are far worse than ours without *or with* The Jones Act.

[Rossami]

Agree with you about the Jones act and Puerto Rico. But why is that relevant to this article about the Philippines?

[Jerryskids]

They terk are jerbs!

[Chumby]

That rent doesn’t just seek itself. It requires smug Eurotrash committees to enact regulations.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

"This follows a determination by the European Maritime Safety Agency that maritime education institutions in the Philippines didn't meet standards set by the International Convention on Standards of Training, Certification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers."

Not enough diversity training?

[Longtobefree]

About time! With all the collisions and sinkings for the last few years, I am surprised it took this long.

[kcuch]

all the collisions and sinkings for the last few years

Pssst.... that was the USN

[Bubba Jones]

Seems like this will have approximately zero impact, unless you think Panama, Liberia and China will follow suit.

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[ducksalad]

I hope you aren't under the impression that Liberian flagged ships are staffed mainly with Liberian sailors.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Libertarian sailors, maybe.

[ducksalad]

Oh wait, I see what you mean. Nevermind.

[mad.casual]

It’s almost like the narrative that the EU is more liberal than the US about its own ships moving goods between member States within the Union isn’t true. That, despite that supposed liberalization and the fact that something like 40% of shipping within the EU is done by maritime freight, the EU is not in control of its own commercial fleet in the event of conflict any more than its in control of its own oil. Further that, despite such liberal energy and shipping policies, shit, including energy/oil isn’t *still* far more expensive there despite all the “free market liberalization”.

Like the whole thing was a patently retarded threadbare fabrication that didn’t hold the least bit of water but was foisted on and peddled around by “libertarians” anyway.

[Rich]

Currently, people from the Philippines account for a quarter of the world's merchant mariners. But the European Commission is considering a move that would bar people from the Philippines from serving onboard ships registered in European Union countries.

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During WWII the Nazis used U-Boats to try to destroy commerce and disrupt supply lines.

How is this different?

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