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Congress

Republicans Control the House but Can't Compromise on Someone To Lead It

Plus: Appeals court upholds policy linking bathrooms to biological sex, the worst states for taxes, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 1.3.2023 9:38 AM

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Happy new year, Roundup readers! I hope your early 2023 is so far going better than for Republican Speaker-elect Kevin McCarthy. Having served as the House Minority Leader since 2019, McCarthy should be a shoo-in for House speaker in this year's Republican-controlled House.

But as the new 118th Congress convenes today, a small but strong opposition force could derail McCarthy's bid to remain Republicans' top House leader.

McCarthy has been working hard to win them over. In a letter to GOP colleagues, he pledged to "restore the ability for any 5 members of the majority party to initiate a vote to remove the Speaker if so warranted." Fox News noted that "previous House rules, put in place by former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, required a member of the House leadership from the majority party to initiate a vote to remove the current speaker."

McCarthy also vowed in the letter to limit proxy voting. "Congress was never intended for Zoom, and no longer will members be able to phone it in while attending lavish international weddings or sailing on their boat. We will meet, gather and debate in person—just as the founders envisioned," McCarthy wrote.

Additionally, McCarthy said he would give lawmakers 72 hours to read a bill before it is voted upon and create a select committee to investigate the "weaponization" of the Department of Justice.

But nine Republican lawmakers—Reps. Scott Perry (Pa.), Chip Roy (Texas), Dan Bishop (N.C.), Andrew Clyde (Ga.), Paul Gosar (Ariz.), and Andy Harris (Md.); and Reps.-elect Anna Paulina Luna (Fla.), Eli Crane (Ariz.), and Andy Ogles (Tenn.)—said yesterday they're still not quite on board with McCarthy for Speaker and want to see a "radical departure from the status quo."

"Thus far, there continue to be missing specific commitments with respect to virtually every component of our entreaties, and thus, no means to measure whether promises are kept or broken," the nine wrote in a Sunday letter. Among other things, they want a single lawmaker to have to power to call for a vote to remove the Speaker (which was the pre-Pelosi policy).

In addition, it's a hard no on McCarthy for Republican Reps. Matt Gaetz (Fla.), Andy Biggs (Ariz.), and three others.

Republicans have 222 seats in House starting today and McCarthy needs 218 votes to become speaker. So, McCarthy "doesn't appear to have the votes. At least not yet," noted Ursula Perano and Sam Brodey at The Daily Beast. "And barring a dramatic resolution in the closing hours, Tuesday's vote could be the most chaotic in the modern history of the chamber."

Further complicating matters, "there are dozens of Republicans who've declared themselves "Only Kevin," meaning they will only vote for McCarthy to be speaker—or so they say," write Perano and Brodey. Of course, "there could be plenty who say they support McCarthy now but would perhaps flip once it becomes clear that McCarthy doesn't have the votes."

Despite the opposition, McCarthy "has remained the only broadly supported candidate for the post," Catie Edmondson pointed out in The New York Times. But if McCarthy can't muster enough votes to become the next House speaker, alternatives will have to emerge:

House precedent requires that lawmakers continue voting on ballot after ballot if no one is able to win the gavel. If Mr. McCarthy is unable to quickly win election, Republicans would be under immense pressure to coalesce around an alternative, ending a potentially chaotic and divisive fight on the floor that could taint the start of their majority in the House.

Biggs has been trying to present himself as that alternative—but that's a long shot, given his far-right status. Other being talked about as potential alternatives to McCarthy include Rep. Steve Scalise (R–La.), who is the second-ranking House Republican, Rep. Jim Jordan (R–Ohio), Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (R–N.C.), and Rep. Elise Stefanik (R–N.Y.).


FREE MINDS

Federal court upholds Florida school policy linking bathrooms to biological sex. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit has given the OK to a Florida school district's policy requiring students to use the bathroom that corresponds to their biological sex. The court split down party lines, with its seven Republican justices siding with the St. Johns County School Board and its four Democratic justices dissenting.

"A policy can lawfully classify on the basis of biological sex without unlawfully discriminating on the basis of transgender status," stated the majority opinion.

"The bathroom policy categorically deprives transgender students of a benefit that is categorically provided to all cisgender students—the option to use the restroom matching one's gender identity," Judge Jill Pryor wrote in her dissent.

"The decision created a split with other federal appeals courts on the issue of transgender bathroom access, which could increase the chances that the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case and resolve the disagreement in the lower courts. The justices often intervene in such circumstances," noted the Wall Street Journal.


FREE MARKETS

The worst states for taxes:

The 10 states most in need of tax reform, according to the 2023 State Business Tax Climate Index:

41. Alabama
42. Rhode Island
43. Hawaii
44. Vermont
45. Minnesota
46. Maryland
47. Connecticut
48. California
49. New York
50. New Jersey

See more rankings: https://t.co/e5O3bX7yKO pic.twitter.com/p5SZjUAPve

— Tax Foundation (@TaxFoundation) January 2, 2023


QUICK HITS

• "The most important divide in American politics isn't red versus blue. It's civic pluralists versus political zealots," writes Nebraska Republican Sen. Ben Sasse:

Civic pluralists understand that ideas move the world more than power does, which is why pluralists value debate and persuasion. […] Political zealots reject this, holding that society starts and ends with power. Government in their view isn't to protect from the powerful or the popular. More than anything else, zealots—on the right and the left—seek total victory in the public square.

• I was on Meet the Press this past weekend talking about tech regulation and pushing back against the idea that we need more of it. Full clip here.

Reason's @ENBrown talked social media regulation on @MeetThePress this week: https://t.co/FUEpm6ZyaX pic.twitter.com/EbScp0QJe3

— reason (@reason) January 2, 2023

• School districts are arbitrarily defining capacity to keep transfer students out.

• "Twitter's ban on 'COVID-19 misinformation,' which Elon Musk rescinded after taking over the platform in late October, mirrored the Biden administration's broad definition of that category in two important respects: It disfavored perspectives that dissented from official advice, and it encompassed not just demonstrably false statements but also speech that was deemed 'misleading' even when it was arguably or verifiably true," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum.

• "Once heralded as game-changers for Covid patients considered at risk for getting seriously ill — one was used to treat then-President Donald Trump in 2020 — monoclonal antibodies are now largely ineffective against current Covid variants," notes Politico.

• Buffalo Bills player Damar Hamlin is in the hospital after suffering a heart attack on the field during a Monday night football game.

Damar Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest following a hit in our game versus the Bengals. His heartbeat was restored on the field and he was transferred to the UC Medical Center for further testing and treatment. He is currently sedated and listed in critical condition.

— Buffalo Bills (@BuffaloBills) January 3, 2023

• Hysterical fearmongering means never having to admit that you were wrong, apparently:

Ehrlich, 1968: "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death."

1970: "In 10 years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct."

1971: "I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000." https://t.co/iYRpfeWQV6

— Ajit Pai (@AjitPai) January 2, 2023

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Woah, they're still doing these? ENB FTW.

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    2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      Is that "Fuck That Witch"?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        NO IT IS NOT.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        Witch implies gender. Did you ask ENB their pronouns?

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          Witch-King of Angmar?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Implies has a definition shrike.

            1. SRG   2 years ago

              Fuckwit, that "witch" implies a sex doesn't mean that it admits of no exception. Or do you think that the witch-king of Angmar is female?

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                I've got to go with Shrike on this one. A witch was just as likely to be a male as female.
                It wasn't until amateur folklorist Margaret Murray popularized her Witch-Cult hypothesis in the 1920's, that people started thinking of witches as medicine women and exclusively female.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Shrike is wrong here. Witch in modern day does imply a gender, it does not require a gender. But modern day culture has witch as female, warlock as male. That is why I said implies which is the correct term to use.

                  Basically shrike is wrong.

                  1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                    Big surprise

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                  2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                    You play AD&D?

                  3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    "Witch in modern day does imply a gender"

                    But by that metric we'd have to accept other redefinitions of words coming from academia and being forced into the vernacular like what's being done to "man" and "woman".

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                    2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                      Poor Yenoxa Bondarenko below me. Her brother was incinerated in a Soviet capsule when he accidentally threw an alcohol soaked cotton ball onto a burner plate in a high oxygen environment

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      I disagree. Even in ancient languages they often defined mystics by different names by gender.

                      But my point is that I used the word implies, not requires.

                  4. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

                    Shrike is wrong here. Witch in modern day does imply a gender, it does not require a gender. But modern day culture has witch as female, warlock as male.

                    Clearly you don't know many witches.

                    Fiction loves the term--sort of

                    Sabrina uses 'warlock', but it's in conjunction with Satanism. Which is concurrent with LeVayan Satanism.

                    Bewitched uses 'warlock' as well.

                    But witches, practicing witches, male and female, use 'witch'.

                    Fashion witches tend to hew to the idea that 'witch' is female, and hereditary.

                    But, overall, and it galls me to say this, Shrike is correct 'witch' is gender neutral.

                    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                      Colloquially 'Witch' refers to a woman. No one pictures a guy riding a broomstick or asking a mirror who is most beautiful.

                      I would imagine any red blooded male who dabbles in the arts refers to himself as a conjurer

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Again. I said implies is the focus of his being incorrect. I intentionally used that word over requires.

                      Sorry. He is not.

      3. NOYB2   2 years ago

        Ewww. Why would you want to do that?

    3. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1610261624258187264?t=FA83KfaidcePnUETV6e34w&s=19

      BREAKING: Judge issues ruling that could save Sam Bankman-Fried. New York judge rules polycules like the one Sam, Caroline, and Gary were in are entitled to the same protections of heterosexual unionis - namely spousal privilege. If true Caroline and Gary can’t testify against.

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      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        If everyone joins a polycule that everyone else is in, then nobody could testify against anyone?

        1. Utkonos   2 years ago

          Polycule, eh? I can’t say that I’m ashamed to have not known that word before this morning. I also can’t say that my life’s richer for the knowledge.

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Yeah, same here. Learned a new word here, but can't say I am overjoyed about it.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              Pretty sure this ruling means you're going to hear about a whole lot more of them very soon.

              1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

                Yeah, you're probably right about that. Sick fucks.

          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

            Hopefully it is transitive to Eskimo Brother/Sister. That would cover the entire SF Bay Area as everyone is fucking around here

      2. Eeyore   2 years ago

        Lol

      3. Illocust   2 years ago

        So, every gang will claim to be a polycule from here on out? This will be so easy to exploit is hilarious.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          And, because "this" didn't exist 5 yrs. ago and means exactly fuck all with regard to fact or logic, the potential for abuse is almost literally endless. Every retarded Van der Waals Social Interaction and Ionic Hexavalent Personal Bond that comes down the pike will have merit.

          1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

            "potential for abuse".. I think you mean potential as a defense against the state. Change my mind.

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              Ok.
              "Why doesn't my gang count as a polycule?"
              "Fuck you, that's why."

        2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          No, gangs just kill people who testify.

      4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        This is some dumb shit right here. Spousal privilege comes with all the other legal consequences of marriage. You're not entitled to it just because you're fucking that person, living with them, etc.

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          why not? the more defense against the state the better.

      5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Another judge who's eligible for the woodchipper.

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        2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

          The judge got his marching orders. The question is who issued them.

      6. Ragnarredbeard   2 years ago

        You apparently don't understand spousal privilege. It doesn't mean they can't testify; it means they don't have to if they don't want to.

    4. Utkonos   2 years ago

      I think she was on vacation. The timing is right…

    5. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      WTF FTW?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        I always found it amusing those two acronyms are anagrams of each other. (I know, palindromes, but I like the alliteration.)

    6. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

      Yes, she really doesn't need to wear that dress or put on the red light

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Happy new year, Roundup readers!

    AND commenters.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Commenters don’t read the articles.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        THEY BETTER.

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          Why? I can read the leftist narrative direct from MSNBC or Salon so why bother with the secondary chain in the narrative disinformation campaign.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Is yglesias chopped liver to you?

            1. Utkonos   2 years ago

              Julio or his son?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Matthew. How dare you. The most prominent intellectual on Twitter.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                  Do you mean Mastodon?

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    He is back already. Don't think he ever left.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Most of them never did actually leave. They announced their departure quite loudly, yet when push came to shove, they were still on Twitter.

                    2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                      Like Sarcasmic flouncing off to Glibertarians.

                    3. Utkonos   2 years ago

                      I have yet to see a gem of punditry out of Mastodon. ENB is being awfully stingy with those.

                    4. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                      Flouncing....nice

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              I think I'd rather have chopped liver.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                To be fair, chopped liver, if cooked properly, is actually pretty nutritious.

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                  Please define 'cooked properly'

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Deep fried. Which makes everything palatable.

                    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                      I would think that would negate any nutrition. But your point isn't lost...believe me...deep frying is an art

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Calorically maybe not. But nutrients...

                      Water-soluble vitamins such as B-1, B-2, B-6 and C are better retained in food through frying than in boiling, steaming or stewing. According to a 1998 study in the "International Journal of Food Science and Nutrition," vitamin C concentrations of french-fried potatoes were found to be as high as in raw potatoes, and vitamin B-1 content was also maintained in fried potato products.

                      https://oureverydaylife.com/deepfrying-vegetables-rob-nutrients-13374.html

                  2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                    Smothered in bacon.

                    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                      damn you...

                    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                      With ketchup! Beef liver and chicken livers are both great with ketchup!

                      And the Southern classic of Liver Pudding (from pig) is best sliced, floured, fried, and served on light toast with mustard!

                    3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                      I really enjoy blood sausage.

                      I am having liver for dinner tonight now. I better wake up healthier tomorrow AM

                2. Utkonos   2 years ago

                  With Fava beans and a nice Chianti?

                  1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                    Fucking stop...bad enough I am going to Lucky's for beef liver and bacon. I don't need to be drunk and flatulent too.

                  2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                    Oy! That's not Kosher! The Mensch on the Bench has his eyes out and Uzi and Galil ready for Hannibal Lecter!

                    1. Utkonos   2 years ago

                      Don’t you Lecter ME, young man!

          2. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

            But today has a catch. ENB was on NBC. Sou you still have to listen to the clown

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Now you know ENB hates us.

      https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1601256561086988289

      Reason commenters make up a very small percentage of our readership, and are largely people who hate everyone on staff and all of our work, on any subject. They’re in now way representative of “libertarian audiences” overall

      Lizzie, it's going to be posted until otherwise.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        ENB did not go far enough in that tweet.

        I suggest sprinkling in some terms like Aborto-Freak, wingnut, Trump Cultist, Christo-Fascist, and Big Gov conservative.

        Call out the enemies of liberty by ridiculing them.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Bingo!

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          The big government supporters are you, jeff, mike, etc.

        3. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

          Fuck off and die, pedo

        5. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

          I suggest sprinkling in some terms like Gendo-Freaks, diddlers, Biden Cultist, Climate/COVID-Fascists, and NAMBLA subalterns. Kulaks, Wreckers, Anti-Intellectuals

          Small subset

        6. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Aborto-Freak - Buttplug supports late term abortion and infanticide, positions that no other country besides Canada allows because they're essentially evil.

          wingnut.com - Buttplug posts MSNBC and Vox links

          Trump Cultist - Buttplug prefers Joe Biden

          Christo-Fascist - Buttplug supports former Nazi George Soros, the substance of Nazi positions like economic corporatism, kirchenkampf, Aktion T4, hates Jews Israelis and views blacks as inferior. But somehow Christians are the fascists.

          Big Gov conservative - When not defending the Democrats, Buttplug has vocally supported Romney, Cheney and McCain, as well as guys like Kristol and French. You don't get bigger government than the Buttplug crew.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

        Why would she post otherwise? Her statement is true. Most of the people in the comments equate libertarian to Republican, and then accuse libertarians of being leftists when they are critical of Republicans.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Wrong as usual. Excuse making for yourself. That's all your comment is.

        2. Nobartium   2 years ago

          Might just have something to do with the Venn diagrams of right and libertarian being much larger than left.

          But even ignoring that, she posted zero data to the contrary. It's literally a "who you gonna believe" statement.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Might just have something to do with the Venn diagrams of right and libertarian being much larger than left.

            Perhaps. But that's not because libertarians are leftists. It's because the right has become authoritarian and hostile to liberty, with the exception of guns and taxes.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              That’s funny

            2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

              You’re just angry they’re against giving pornography to children.

            3. Nobartium   2 years ago (edited)

              The writers here aren’t called leftists because they are, they are called so because they uncritically repeat the narratives of the corporate press just so they can appear on their programs, exactly like what happened with ENB.

              Why would libertarians want to appear on NBC except for their “image” of respectability?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Why would libertarians want to appear on NBC except for their “image” of respectability?

                Did you listen to what she said? Perhaps libertarians want to appear on NBC so they can offer an alternative to the two major parties that only argue over how government should fix our problems, instead of whether or not it should.

                1. Nobartium   2 years ago

                  Nobody who watches NBC is amenable to that point of view.

                  Nobody. Even if that was wrong, they wouldn't let her go that far, they have their audience to protect.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                    So everyone’s mind is set in stone? Good to know. In that case why bother trying to share ideas with anyone?

                    Edit: Seems like a damned if they do damned if they don't to me. If they go on NBC you'll criticize them for pandering, and if they don't you'll criticize them for not making an effort.

                    1. Nobartium   2 years ago

                      So everyone’s mind is set in stone?

                      Most people who watch TV regularly are, they've done studies on this.

                      You can just look at the demographics on this.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You just said nobody. Now most. Which is it?

                    3. Nobartium   2 years ago

                      I said nobody who watches NBC, which is a subset of people who watch TV.

                    4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      So you are insulting ENB for sharing a good libertarian comment because she did it at the wrong venue?

                      What is the correct venue?

                    5. Nobartium   2 years ago

                      Youtube, Rumble, Twitch, or any non TV platform.

                    6. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Then she's just preaching to the choir, because people use confirmation bias to filter what they see on the internet.
                      At least with tv she might reach someone who hasn't thought that before and make them say "Hm."

            4. JesseAz   2 years ago

              So weird how covid isn't a thing to you. How j6 prosecutions, censorship, etc aren't a thing to you. Is it because you support those leftist positions?

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I do see Reason agreeing with the left on a lot of icky sex stuff. Like abortions, bathrooms, and other icky sex stuff that makes people on the right squirm in their chairs. But saying that makes libertarians leftists is like saying anyone who wants to pay less taxes is a conservative.

            1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

              Yeah, imagine all those squares who don’t want their kids read pornography by some drag queen.

            2. NOYB2   2 years ago

              Reason embraces neoliberalism, acquiesces to neoconservatism, and views policies through the lens of utilitarianism. That’s what makes them “leftist”, in the sense of the American “left”.

          3. NOYB2   2 years ago

            ENB’s source is the people she meets at her $20000/plate DC dinner parties. Those are the real “libertarians” to her because they pay her.

        3. mad.casual   2 years ago

          You're right. Most do that. And the remainder cover for vaccination mandates and a sitting administration handing down censorship orders to Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc. and then act like anyone opposed to straight up, down-the-list, full-punch card, fascism is an EVUL KKKONSERVATIV REPUBLIKKUN!

          And it's the first group's fault that libertarianism gets associated with Republicanism because, BOAF SIDEZ!

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I read that three times and it still makes no sense. You sure you didn't but bourbon in your coffee this morning?

            1. mad.casual   2 years ago

              Was "You're right." too confusing, I have to be hammered on bourbon in order to agree with your, or both?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                "And the remainder cover for vaccination mandates and a sitting administration handing down censorship orders"

                When you say the word "cover" I interpret that to mean disagreeing with the far right.

                "And it’s the first group’s fault that libertarianism gets associated with Republicanism"

                I thought libertarians were all leftists. Can you make up your mind?

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Poor Sarcasmic. In an effort to white knight for Buttplug he ended up fighting everyone today.

      3. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago (edited)

        They’re in now way representative of “libertarian audiences” overall

        Overall, we’re more representative of strong libertarian thinking. We’re the people who feel strongly enough about libertarian issues to comment on articles in an ostensibly libertarian magazine/website. And that’s why so many of us “hate” (I’d think “are disgusted by” would be a better description) the people on the staff and their work. The staff mostly pushes a watered down and selective libertarianism palatable mainly to urban, cosmopolitan, progressives. But, if libertarianism is anything, or anything worthwhile, it’s about a hell of a lot more than the sensibilities of urban, cosmopolitan, progressives. It’s about, first and foremost, individual liberty. And the staff’s obvious willingness to compromise on or abandon that principle rightly raises our hackles.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          What I see is a bunch of Republicans getting angry when Reason is critical of their anti-liberty policies.

          1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

            I've tried detailing to you, in good faith, the multiple issues and times the staff here has abandoned libertarian principle in favor of urban cosmopolitan, progressive sensibilities. Multiple times. Your response has basically been to run away. Don't waste my time. I don't have enough of it to fritter away on the site's town drunk.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I've never seen you argue in good faith. All you do is try to impress the trolls by calling me names, like you just did.

              1. NOYB2   2 years ago

                Funny, I have never seen you argue in good faith either: it’s mostly snark or bs with you.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Do you even know what arguing in bad faith means? It means you assume the other person is a liar. You accuse the other person of being a liar, and then you don't accept it when they say they are not.
                  That's what most of the posters here do. Accusing me of arguing in bad faith is simple projection. Nothing more.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Oh the irony right after he calls everyone Republicans getting angry.

                  2. Uilleam   2 years ago

                    Your level of cognitive dissonance is impressive. How do you continue to function?

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              He's more like the village idiot.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                If I'm the village idiot and I'm way smarter than you, what does that make you? The village retard?

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  It has more to do with your attitude and spoiling for fights.

                  Anyway, how do you know that, in fact, you're smarter than me (or anyone else here outside of Shrike and Jeffy)? How do you go about measuring that anyway? Maybe I am smarter than you. I don't go spoiling for fights the way that you seem to.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Your reasoning skills. Or lack thereof.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Give one example.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      You always have this insatiable desire to get in the absolute last word on something. I don't really understand why. It's just an online forum. There's certainly no need to do so.

                      As for my reasoning skills, please elaborate.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I just did below.

                    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

                      "You always have this insatiable desire to get in the absolute last word on something."

                      Well, I have seen some users slink in the next day in articles to try and get a dig or last word in. Sarcasmic doesn't do that, but the company he keeps certainly does.

                    5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Company I keep? Well then I suppose the company you keep is the trolls on this site who accuse people of things they never said nor did, and call them liars or mock them for playing victim when they point it out. Suck it, bitch.

                  2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    One thing I find is that people who know what they're talking about don't resort to calling people names. You call me names. A lot. From that I must conclude that you're not intelligent enough to back up what you say, and must instead lash out like a cornered animal.

                    I could be wrong. But that's what I see.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Really? I've not had much to say back and forth with you. Unless your name is Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2, then you typically haven't been a target of names I use.

                      Maybe it's a bit of projection, perhaps?

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You been drinking with mad.casual this morning? You call me names all the time, like you're trying to impress the trolls I put on mute.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You call me idiot, drunk, leftist, and who knows what else. I don't write this shit down. Stop the name calling and my opinion of you might raise itself an inch or two out of the mud.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Oh geez, where do I start with this. Others call you these quite freely, yet I mostly ignore you. No idea why it gets so under your skin when I use it occasionally, if I even comment on you at all.

                    5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Also, Sarc, did it ever occur to you to actually grow a thick skin? It's the internet for Pete's sake. People get insulted all the freaking time. They have since the early days of Usenet, since the eternal September. It's life. Relax and don't fret so much.

                    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Your bald assertions is bald.

                      Name calling does not affect in anyway what somebody knows. Links are often provided. You almost never provide links ironically.

                    7. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      sarcasmic 43 mins ago
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      You call me idiot, drunk, leftist, and who knows what else. I don’t write this shit down. Stop the name calling and my opinion of you might raise itself an inch or two out of the mud.

                      Hypocrite seems to be valid as you name call and talk shit constantly. You have no desire for honest conversation and have admitted to throwing shit.

                      You never back up your own views with anything of value while others you namecall do.

                      What you are doing here is projecting.

                    8. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      There's a difference between insulting people and using insults as arguments. I miss the days when the left were the ones championing fallacies as rational arguments, and the right pointed it out. Now they join in.

                    9. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Let's look at sarcs arguments today...

                      sarcasmic 3 hours ago
                      Flag Comment Mute User
                      What I see is a bunch of Republicans getting angry when Reason is critical of their anti-liberty policies

                      Posting today full of bald assertions with no backing.

                      In fact not one argument by him today is cited with any information.

                      Weird.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Cite on you being smart at all?

          2. mad.casual   2 years ago

            What I see is a bunch of Republicans getting angry when Reason is critical of their anti-liberty policies.

            Exactly. Because you're so transcendentally libertarian that you've risen above the hackneyed TPD aspersion-casting idiocy.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Not sure what that means. I'll give you some examples anyway. Trump's trade war. Anyone who criticized it and advocated for free trade was called a leftist. Same with immigration. Or industrial policy.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                No they weren't. Shrike was because he spouts DNC narratives constantly.

                There has been long discussions regarding the change in Mexico trade policy and which plan was more free. Youre just wrong here.

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Reminder. Sarc can call everyone else republican but don't call him or ENB a leftist.

        2. Nobartium   2 years ago

          The excuse given is that "why preach to the choir?", but the reality is that no belief system would survive if it kept moderating itself to appeal to a wider audience.

          1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

            If it were just "not preaching to the choir", you'd expect deviations from the pure libertarian position to be randomly distributed, as likely to be favorable to the right as to urban cosmopolitan progressives. I don't see that at all.

            I mean, what's more preaching to the choir, "sex work should be legal and respected" or "the national security state shouldn't push false accusations to advance a political narrative"?

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              So not sharing your priorities makes them leftists?

              1. mad.casual   2 years ago

                So "the national security state should push false accusations to advance a political narrative" is the shared priority between yourself and Reason?

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  You trying to take over JesseAz's job of putting words into my mouth now that he's on mute?

                  1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

                    I didn’t put words in anyone’s mouth any more than you did. “No.” is a valid answer to the question I asked. Odd that it didn’t occur to you.

                  2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    We all know what you meant. It's a "Do you still beat your wife" kind of question. Especially because Reason has been quite critical of what you just said they support.

                    You're being unusually dickish this morning. Go sleep it off.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      How have they been critical?

                      Theyve supported massive abuses.

                      They endorsed Trump Russia narratives.

                      No discussion on J6 abuses.

                      Missed DoJ with Face Act, subpoenas against PV, etc.

                      Have only tepid coverage of government collusion with SV after years of defending it.

                      Show me one article where they were staunchly against the IC since they used to cover Assange.

                    2. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

                      We all know what you meant. It’s a “Do you still beat your wife” kind of question. Especially because Reason has been quite critical of what you just said they support.

                      You’re being unusually dickish this morning. Go sleep it off.

                      Again, I didn’t put words in anyone’s mouth any more than you did.

                2. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

                  Yeah, that sort of is painting oneself into an intellectual corner. “The national security state shouldn’t push false accusations to advance a political narrative” is basic libertarianism, Libertarianism 101. You can't really be a libertarian if you're claiming the state should be able to falsely accuse citizens to advance its agenda. But, sarcasmic (and, sadly, the staffers here) seem to think it's more beyond the libertarian pale than thinking being a hooker is a noble and respectable profession.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Is this an example of what you call arguing in good faith? I suppose it is if you think lying about what people say and ascribing to them beliefs they do not have is good faith.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Have you learned what selection bias is yet? Reason intentionally ignoring major libertarian care abouts regarding the advancing IC state into the political realm is a choice they are making.

                      They used to be all over it such as with Assange. Now barely mentioned and the lightest touch around it. With people like Sullum defending it often.

                    2. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

                      When I posed the comparison between the two propositions, your response was literally "So not sharing your priorities makes them leftists?" mad.casual gave you the opportunity to walk it back and acknowledge that, yeah, the state falsely accusing people might be a priority. You doubled down. There's no lie in ascribing the conclusions of your comments to you.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I never said what my priorities are or what I believe or think. All you've got is assumptions.

                      You're saying that their choices of headlines make them leftists. Even if they agree with you.

                    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      So no. You still don't know what selection bias is.

            2. Utkonos   2 years ago

              Is anyone else here old enough to remember when any talk of a “national security state” could easily get you misconstrued as a leftist? Or at least as somewhat hippie-dippie?
              Anyway back to our discussion. My two cents: DOWN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT! DOWN WITH FBI PIGS!
              (And the younguns think life is a trip? They ain’t seen NOTHING yet!)

        3. Cyto   2 years ago

          Libertarian ideology is pretty simple to follow. You could probably get an AI bot to parody our beliefs effectively. The NAP used to be a common term around here. You rarely see that from the current staff.

          It is pretty easy to paint a hardliners libertarian into a corner using edge cases. Ask rand Paul about the civil rights act. Easy. Put the freedom of association in conflict with a social desire to eliminate racism and discrimination.

          But that isn't where we are right now.

          On freedom of speech, we are beyond "they are companies who are free to operate as they wish". We have ironclad proof that the government is illegally behind much of what you see and hear, and much of what you don't.

          No libertarian looks at that and thinks the issue is "look at these crazy people complaining about it!".

          That is not a defensible position. It is not a rational position. It isn't just that it is not libertarian..... it is not even sane.

          Sure, you could spare some ink for a "by the way, these Republicans have a terrible solution in mind" in the middle of your screed against this propaganda machine... that would be reasonable. But "don't worry about a cabal of federal agencies, NGOs, tech companies, banks, payment processors, newspapers, television stations, federal judges, prosecutors and political parties who are colluding to limit free speech, rig elections and control your access to accurate medical information" isn't even defensible if you are a liberal Democrat.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Maybe I need to stop trusting my lying eyes.
            What I saw was, before it was known that government was giving orders to Twitter, defense of companies making editorial choices.
            Then I saw, after Musk release the "Twitter files," condemnation of government influence on free speech.
            They went with the information they had.
            I guess my eyes must be lying to me.

            1. Cyto   2 years ago

              Yes you were indeed lying.

              It took a great deal of mental gymnastics to avoid seeing everything that proved the lie.

              And now demanding that nobody do anything about it reveals just where the sympathies lie.

              As I said, using the NAP you can easily build an unthinking libertarian bot that will get most issues right by the libertarian line.

              This is one of the major critiques of our philosophy. They call it juvenile because it demands responsibility of individuals and tolerates individual stupidity. It isn't "of the real world".

              But the propaganda machine isn't one of those issues.

              This one does not pass the "American citizen" test. No subset of American political theory can tolerate this.

              It was easy to see in 2017, long before we knew the FBI was the bag man. You did not have to be prescient to see it. You didn't have to be libertarian or conservative to see it.

              You had to be a partisan progressive to avoid seeing it.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                And now demanding that nobody do anything about it reveals just where the sympathies lie.

                Is this one of those things where you don't see someone getting angry and shouting from the rooftops, and from there you infer that they fully support whatever it is that got you emotional? That's the only way I can see that statement making any sense.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Simple excuse making as to why you and reason ignore it. Again. Outcome of selection bias.

  3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    You represented libertarians well on Meet the Press, ENB.

    Keep up the good work.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      LOL. You aren’t going to get any no matter how hard you try.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Yes, she is attractive, but the goal is to encourage female libertarians.

        Libertarianism is far more than opposing gun control measures. That battle is won.

        Female body autonomy/liberty is in serious jeopardy.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Yes, it is, especially when we call a man a woman with ladydick.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            The left is timid as usual on that topic.

            When Senator Marsha Blackburner tried to patronize that potential justice by asking if she could define a woman the answer should have been:

            The answer is human female, you patronizing bitch

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Of course, you would. You like boys and couldn't tell the difference otherwise.

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled shit and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

            3. damikesc   2 years ago

              "When Senator Marsha Blackburner tried to patronize that potential justice by asking if she could define a woman the answer should have been:

              The answer is human female, you patronizing bitch"

              It should have been.

              ...yet it was not.

              The answer was that she was not a biologist and could not answer the question.

      2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        She's too old for ButtPlug. He prefers ten-year-old boys.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Whats up with the recent sycophantic behavior of the leftists here towards ENB?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        She called out the Peanut Gallery crazies and Trump Cultists in the comment section.

        This isn't Brat-bitch.com you know.

        1. Gus Valgus   2 years ago

          But she didn't call out the pedo's.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          She is a libertine not libertarian. She attacks libertarians like the MC. Her links are majority from DNC narrative pushers like Vox and Wapo.

          Youre trying to cover for her.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

            Attacking libertarians is all libertarians ever accomplish, your going to need something else to make your case.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              The Trump Cultists here attack enemies of the Donald even it they are 99% libertarian. Look how they turned on Penn Jilette and PJ O'Rourke.

              And Soros - uber-capitalist, legalize drugs, fights statist/Fascist/socialists in Eastern Europe and the world over, Open Society - Cato/Austrian econ supporter, friend of Hayek - but Soros must be destroyed by the Trump Cult enemies-of-liberty types.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                You never answered my response regarding Koch and Soros and the strange partnership they have.

                https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/quincy-trita-parsi-soros-koch-armin-rosen

                Led by Trita Parsi and backed by Charles Koch and George Soros, the Quincy Institute seeks to redefine the contours of American foreign policy in the Middle East, China—and beyond

                1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                  Quincy Institute seeks to redefine the contours of American foreign policy Forensic Pathology as relates to solving murders and other crimes

              2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                And everything everyone needs to know about George Soros.

                https://www.villages-news.com/2017/09/24/george-soros-dangerous-man-world/

                A friend once accused me and my criticism of George Soros as unfounded. How could I criticize someone I did not know? I showed the picture that I carry around to remind me of the danger he represents. Then, I decided to use his own words to describe him. You be the judge.

                1. NOYB2   2 years ago

                  People have been unable to track down the source for that. Can you provide it?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    I've been trying to track down that Newsweek article in the meme with minimal success. I want to link it here and shove it down Buttplug's throat.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Rabbit holes are fun, aren't they? Dug this up from 1995.

                    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/01/23/the-world-according-to-soros

                    With the Clinton Administration, Soros, a newly turned Democrat, has made the kind of inroads that he was unable to make before. He still tends to be most valued as a financial guru (one of his Quantum directors told me, “George got in to see Clinton, to talk to him about Bosnia—and all Clinton wanted to talk about was the market”), while his views on foreign policy are often seen as relatively unsophisticated. A high-ranking official in the Administration says, “Sometimes his speeches and articles are overly idealistic. In that sense, people take him with a grain of salt.” But he has cultivated excellent relationships with high-ranking officials in the State Department and at Treasury. He has opened a Washington office, which, as one Soros associate told me, will function as “his State Department.”

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      From that article:

                      He traces its origins to 1944—a year that he has said he recalls more vividly than any other in his life—when, aged fourteen, he posed as the son of a Hungarian government official, sometimes accompanying the official as he delivered deportation notices to Jews, or took possession of property owned by them. Self-control and detachment were the keys to survival.

              3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                And ask yourself why Charles Koch would ally with George Soros.

                https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/opensecrets-battle-koch-brothers/

                These individuals aren’t exactly flying under the radar as the Kochs hold leadership positions and are featured on the websites for the Cato Institute, Reason Foundation and the Mercatus Center among others. Soros also runs the Open Society Institute — website Soros.org — as well as the recently created Institute for New Economic Thinking.

              4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Even mentioned here at Reason:

                https://reason.com/2019/07/01/charles-koch-george-soros-help-fund-think-tank-opposed-to-endless-war/

                The Boston Globe reports the "astonishing turn" that organizations created by libertarian billionaire Charles Koch and progressive billionaire George Soros are helping to fund a new think tank, the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. The new group is committed to promoting "ideas that move U.S. foreign policy away from endless war and toward vigorous diplomacy in the pursuit of international peace."

              5. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

                Funny, I don't support Trump and don't feel that way. I like having a good back and forth with say JessieAZ; we don't always agree but it is amicable. Have you tried not insulting people at every turn?

                Than again you post child porn, so that might just explain it more than your political discourse.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  I honestly just despise a few posters here. Shrike, jeff, mike, sarc, and whatever 50 center is working the day like davedave.

                  Mostly because of their projections and inability to accept facts given during discussion. Also their victim hood mentality.

                  I've disagreed often here with many posters that will have rational back and forth. Those 4 are incapable of it.

              6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Do you need the dozen links regarding soros again? Or fine with being a blind acolyte?

              7. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                And what should I see, but that Klaus Schwab and George Soros work together, quelle surprise.

                https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/02/11/dreams-of-davos

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        The man-bun types are eagerly signaling their subservience to womyn, which is obviously a core value for liberaltarians.

    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      You're kidding right? The woman in the video said some very libertarian things. That couldn't have been ENB because the people in the comments say she's a progressive. The hallmark of progressivism is the administrative state, which the woman in the video opposes. Therefore it can't be ENB, since she is a progressive.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        She only opposes some administrative state items. Usually only what is pushed from the right. She endorses the other side. See j6 prosecutions as a glaring example. FACE act as another. Vast majority for non violent acts.

        You can fuck off now.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "The woman in the video said some very libertarian things."

        Really? Like what?

        Enjoying hookers and drugs and hating cops doesn't necessarily make you libertarian, Sarcasmic. There's all that complicated stuff like free speech, free markets and personal liberty.

      3. Cyto   2 years ago

        She said "I trust the marketplace to replace these entrenched companies" and that regulation would only favor Facebook.

        I only watched the clip she posted. Based on the clip, and only the clip, I would call this a defense of the current propaganda machine being run out of DHS.

        If you see this massive psyops campaign and the immense degree of control it has over dissemination of information in the United States and your take is "those people trying to oppose it are the real danger to freedom", you are not even libertarian adjacent.

        For some reason the editor of the largest libertarian publication is 100% behind a federally run information and debate control regime. It makes no sense... but the Networks (who are also a big part of the scheme) were seemingly happy to have her agree with them.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Opposing regulations and pointing out creative destruction equals support for government controlling information and debate?

          I do not get that reasoning at all.

          1. Cyto   2 years ago

            Yes you do. You are just being dishonest.

            The discussion is not "should the government decide what tech companies allow on their platform".

            If that was the discussion, "no" would be a pretty good place to start. In fact, we did start there 20 years ago. Back then it was China demanding that Google censor search results and it was Google who said "don't be evil" and removed their servers to Hong Kong.

            But that is not the debate today. Not even a little bit. Pretending that it is is a lie. It is an indefensible lie. It isn't like you or ENB simply emerged from a remote cave yesterday. You know exactly what the discussion is about. You spent years pretending it didn't exist. Then you spent years pretending that if it did exist, it was just a couple of crazy conspiracy theorist racists that were being removed. Then you spent years saying it is actually fine.. a good thing even, because they are free corporations who can decide for themselves what to allow.

            But every one of those ships have sailed.

            And it isn't like you don't know it. We now know that the security state is telling the press what to cover and what not to cover. We know that they are feeding the press false stories, and the press is presenting them as if they are true. We know that the security state has been telling social media what ideas to suppress and what ideas to promote. They have been telling the social media companies who to silence and who to elevate. They have even been telling them how to do it... how to be stealthy about it to avoid detection.

            "They are private companies" was never a valid argument. It was a talking point designed to deflect the debate. And it accidentally built a pitard upon which you are all hoist... because you all said that they are private actors.. so they can do as they please. It is only when operating with the government that the 1st amendment is invoked.

            Oops.

            It turns out that the government is involved at a level that none of us even imagined.

            So yes... opposing anyone raising their voice in opposition to the state information control regime is precisely support of the state control regime. It isn't even nuanced.

            If she (or you) had pounded the table in opposition to shadow bans and planted stories and deplatforming, and if she had called for the prosecution of everyone involved in this outrageous violation of our civil rights, the constitution and this terrible threat to our free society, then speaking in favor of one remedy over another would be reasonable.

            But that is not what happened.

            You both have only opposed anyone speaking against this censorship and propaganda.

            That is not a reasoned libertarian position.

            That is the type of position that earned you the appellation "bootlicker" back before most of the hardcore libertarians left this site.

            As I said, these are not close calls. This is not some edge case that pits competing rights.

            This one is simple.

            No libertarian, republican or Democrat should countenance this even a tiny bit. No generic "American citizen" who believes in the ideals of democracy and the bill of rights should countenance this.

            The only partisan angle here is "they are supporting democrats", but they are using methods that any real Democrat should oppose with great passion.

            Only a fascist or communist could get behind this. Or maybe a supporter of the monarchy?

            But nobody else.

            Pretending that the Republicans are the bad guys for Sabre rattling about doing something to stop it is not libertarian. It is not neutral observation. Not now. Not at the time that the true extent is being exposed. It is full throated support for this orwellian enterprise.

            1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

              very well stated

            2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I stopped reading after you called me a liar. I could be wrong. Sure. But I'm not a liar. So fuck off.

              1. Cyto   2 years ago

                I gave a very detailed explanation of the differentiation between "mistaken" amd "disagreement" and "dishonest".

                There are honest paths of disagreement. There are plenty of "I am just wrong" arguments.

                But you picked lines that I know that you absolutely knew to be false before you posted it. Not "I disagree with". Known to be false.

                That is the definition of a lie. And not a one-off, but repeated.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Stick your accusations up your ass. I'm not defending something I didn't do.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...a small but strong opposition force could derail McCarthy's bid to remain Republicans' top House leader.

    I can think of no other palace intrigue as boring.

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  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The worst states for taxes...

    The 51st state that's bad for taxes? Death state.

  6. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    2022 Will Be Remembered as the Year the U.S. Became the World’s Largest Exporter of Liquified Natural Gas
    .........
    In the first half of the year, the United States became the world’s top exporter of liquified natural gas, or LNG. Then, in September, crude oil exports hit an all-time high when the country sent abroad about 4 million barrels per day.

    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/01012023/liquified-natural-gas-lng-exports-2022/

    US energy independence higher.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Rig count up!

    2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Biden literally destroyed the competition.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Please expound on how you know who blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Remember when you were claiming Russians did it themselves?

        2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          You are so goddamn disingenuous; I could provide a video clip of Biden saying he will destroy NS2 and you'd ignore it. Now kindly fuck off.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVbEoZXhCrM

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

            That’s your evidence? Repeating a talking point straight out of a press release by the Russian Foreign Ministry. When the Russian government endorses a belief, you automatically agree with it.

            You can mute me if you like. I will continue to comment on the stupid hot takes you make on a regular basis.

            1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

              Bears repeating:

              You are so goddamn disingenuous; I could provide a video clip of Biden saying he will destroy NS2 and you’d ignore it. Now kindly fuck off.

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                He said they would "end" it. You are intentionally choosing the most conspiratorial interpretation of that statement, even though there are more benign interpretations. And, you are choosing the same intepretation as the Russian Foreign Ministry.

                1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

                  Is it not ended?

                  Biden said he'd end the NS2 (Feb 2022) it is ended, and you clamor about conspiracies. I took Biden at his word. I interpreted nothing.

                  Proof you are a disingenuous asshole.

                2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  _I’m_ being disingenuous.

                  _Someone_ sabotaged the pipeline with explosives. That is one possible way of ending it, with another possible way being using diplomacy to shut down the contractual arrangement.

                  After at least three investigations, nobody knows who sabotaged it — except you and the Russian Foreign. Ministry.

                3. Cyto   2 years ago

                  Wait..

                  You are on board with "Russia blew up the pipeline"?

                  And you are on board with "anyone who thinks otherwise is spouting Russian propaganda"?

                  That is insane.

                  Like literally crazy.

                  Biden didn't merely hint that they would initiate some diplomatic initiative to foreclose the pipeline... he clearly insinuated that we have the means to unilaterally "end" a pipeline that we have no involvement with. Repeatedly.

                  And then it was blown up.

                  It is a pretty reasonable inference to suggest the US was involved.

                  Suggesting the Russians did it is entirely unreasonable. He'll, even if they did do it, claiming that they did at this point is entirely unreasonable. They wanted to use it. We wanted them to be boycotted. The EU was wavering on that point.

                  The Russians could accomplish the same thing without destroying the pipeline. We could not.

                  And tellingly... we ran out and claimed the Russians did it.

                  Why would we do that? I mean, what if it was Poland? Or Ukraine? Surely we wouldn't make accusations like that if we didn't have some idea of what happened.

                  You have to be twisted into knots to think that questioning the Biden administration on this one is Russian propaganda. Even if we had nothing to do with it, every rational line of thought leads in the other direction.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

              Why should anyone mute you when we can bask in your glorious ignorance and stupidity? Anyway, you’re usually the one to mute others, @MikeLaursen2.

            3. JesseAz   2 years ago

              That and the Swedish findings it was a state actor. For Europe it makes no sense. Occams Razor and all.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                Europe desperately needs natural gas, Russia desperately needs to sell natural gas, Biden wants to stop natural gas sales from Russia to Europe and has publicly threatened the pipeline.

                White Mike is right. It's totally unknowable who sabotaged the pipeline.

            4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

              ^ fed

      2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        My gas bill has tripled since FJB was installed. This months bill, $445.00. Fuck Joe Biden and the Bidettes who lick his ass clean.

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Independence?

      https://www.naturalgasintel.com/winter-natural-gas-costs-seen-rising-for-u-s-households-and-henry-hub-at-7-40-in-4q-eia-says/

      They are selling energy to Europe due to Russian gas being cut off through politics and destruction of pipelines. So the US exports more to international markets at higher profit while increasing energy costs at home.

      The WEF and leftist energy policies globally causing the issue. The same policy Biden pushes.

      Do you ever think your comments through?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        I said we are moving toward more independence. Not that we are fully independent as of now. We never have been.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Except we are not.

          Biden literally ran to SA to beg for oil. Instead of actually permitting more energy exploration on federal lands.

          You are really bad at shilling for the DNC.

          https://www.greencarcongress.com/2022/02/20220220-eia.html

          net crude oil imports will increase, making the United States a net importer of petroleum in 2022.

          Pre Ukraine even CNBC recognized this.

          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/11/op-ed-biden-needs-to-rapidly-increase-us-energy-production-to-cut-russia-dependence.html

          Biden did not do so.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Wrong.

            U.S. Energy Independence Has Grown Oct 2022

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/10/01/us-energy-independence-has-grown/?sh=49bd5215657e

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            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              I gave you citations regarding actual numbers. You give opinion.

            3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

              Always read Buttplug links, folks. If they don’t refute his premise they refute their own.

              I am often asked if the U.S. is energy independent, or whether we have ever been energy independent. A claim I frequently encounter is that President Trump made us energy independent, and we lost that under President Biden.”

              Before addressing such a claim, you must ensure that everyone is speaking the same language. When someone makes that claim to me, I ask them to define energy independence.

              Lol, every time.

              It is true that we achieved both of those energy independence milestones under President Trump. What isn’t true, is that it was because of anything special that he did. His energy policies may have helped a bit, but the primary cause was a surge in domestic oil and gas production that occurred as a result of the fracking boom.

              Sure it happened under Trump and his policies helped, but orangemanbad and reasons.

              During Trump’s term — 2017 through 2020 — U.S. energy production increased by another 11.3 quads (although, again, 2019 was a record year and 2020 production declined because of the pandemic). The rate of increase was a bit higher under President Trump, which you can see in the graphic below…

              Just a “bit”.

              However, what isn’t true is that we lost that energy independence under President Biden.

              Here comes the redefinition of energy independence just as promised… but first he’ll pull a Buttplug.

              Using the definition of exports minute imports, 2021 was our highest level of energy independence in history.

              Maybe because Biden’s public lands moratorium and subsequent chilling effect hadn’t hit yet?

              In 2020, that excess grew to 3.47 quads (mainly because imports fell as Covid hit demand) and in 2021 it grew to a new record of 3.82 quads. By that measure, we are more energy independent than we have ever been.

              Oh, here it is.

              If you prefer the definition of production minus consumption, then we are also still energy independent. In 2020 the U.S. produced 2.7 more quads than we consumed. In 2021, that excess shrank to 0.45 quads on the back of strong post-shutdown demand. So you could argue that by that measure our level of energy independence declined from 2020 to 2021, but it didn’t disappear.

              Biden didn’t manage to make it entirely disappear his first year. An energy hero.

              And what happened in the first half of 2022, Mr. Rapier?

              No comment?

              Oh.

              1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                Check and mate

    4. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      The official hype man for the Biden economy has spoken, everyone!

      But he doesn't want you to read this link:

      Stocks fall to end Wall Street’s worst year since 2008, S&P 500 finishes 2022 down nearly 20%

      #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        He will bring up 2020. But this market performed worse than shutting down 40% of the economy. Quite an amazing feat.

      2. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        POTUS Biden and POTUS Jimmy Carter....Two Peabrains in a Pod.

  7. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    So another young athlete drops to the ground with heart failure.
    “100% safe and effective with no downsides !”

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      When I saw the replay, I thought the same thing.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      According to the U.S. Commotio Cordis Registry, since 1995, 188 athletes have died from blunt force
      injury to the heart (commotio cordis). Of those 188 fatalities, the mean age was 14.7 years and 96% were
      male athletes according to the Heart Center at TUFTS New England Medical Center. In an effort to
      educate the public about the potential risks physically active youth can face, the National Athletic Trainers’
      Association (NATA) recommends that parents and coaches take proactive steps to protect their athletes
      against commotio cordis

      https://www.nata.org/sites/default/files/commotiocordis.pdf

      Drop the wingnut CT please

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        He wasn’t hit, he was doing the hitting.

        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

          Dude ran into him and he absorbed the hit. Pretty obvious

          1. Cyto   2 years ago

            It certainly did not appear to be even an average football hit.

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              It was a routine hit, not anything extreme by NFL standards. Nobody would even get mad at it in practice.
              The official narrative is running with it as a case of "commotio cordis" which is when the heart stops after being struck. What they're passing over is that commotio cordis is usually caused by an object, such as a ball or puck, because it requires acute force be delivered at a very specific location at a precise moment. It also doesn't often occur in people over the age of 20 because muscles are more developed.
              It's a possibility, but one that is very slim for a NFL football player whose shoulder pads cover their chest.
              Whether his cardiac arrest was caused by a hit, the vax, or a combination of both is unknown. But it's extremely concerning, and fits the pattern of athletes in their prime all of a sudden dropping dead w/o any warning.
              "We've never seen anything like this before"
              Except we have, 18 months ago when a Danish soccer player suddenly collapsed and CPR was delivered on the field in the first game of the Euro Cup.
              It absolutely needs to be investigated honestly. We're advertising the hell out of the vax, recommending it for children, and in some cases still mandating it.
              Sadly, the powers that be are going to keep covering it up. This is horrifying.

              1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                You're absolutely right about the hit really not being notable, save for the subsequent cardiac issue.

                Scary for sure, but a pedestrian tackle

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        It's likely a heart punch-type injury, although it's of a piece of a lot of other relatively young people dropping over from cardiac arrest in the last year.

        You know who didn't die from commotio cordis? Uchechukwu Nwaneri, who literally dropped dead at the age of 38 and had said anyone who didn't take the coof shot should be jailed.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          "You know who didn’t die from commotio cordis? Uchechukwu Nwaneri, who literally dropped dead at the age of 38 and had said anyone who didn’t take the coof shot should be jailed."

          Correct. And just hours before Hamlin went down.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

            'Roids

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

              That’s honestly quite probable. Roids have been linked to enlarged hearts and subsequent heart attacks, especially in ex-pro wrestlers.

              1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

                Exactly. Now factor in any possible negative outcome from being vaxxed + 'Roids + Diet/current drug use/overweight

    3. SRG   2 years ago

      Are you actually a fuckwit or do you just play one here?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        We know you play one here, Shrike.

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          I'm not Shrike, fuckwit.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Sure shrike.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        Don't need to ask that of you, shitbag.

    4. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1610181432269324290?t=3roSnvRohcA8TLisuLhmnQ&s=19

      BREAKING: The US Government has set up outposts near the UC Medical Center where Damar Hamlin is currently in critical condition.

      This is reportedly due to “issues that may arise following Damar’s possible passing.”

      [Link]

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        psy op, 100%

    5. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1610142808349745154?t=Zw6F3SMomARlZeW0KkkaIA&s=19

      [Link]

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        So this is why Buttplug and White Mike were suddenly bringing up radio hosts who died with Covid a couple of years ago, yesterday.

        Trying to preemptively propagandize.

    6. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/AtlRey/status/1610283392154705921?t=ukCK0RvMq7Ge2JYnBCa3RQ&s=19

      Is there a more serious crime than a govt mandating an experimental, ineffective, & dangerous jab, while granting immunity to the issuer who raked in record profits, while simultaneously suppressing safe and effective treatments?

      1. Illocust   2 years ago

        The sad part is the left will never recognize that the mandate is what made it wrong. Not the experimental or liability waver on their own.

        1. Nardz   2 years ago

          The sad part is that this shit will never get investigated and previously healthy people will keep dying because too many faggot NPCs have been trained like seals to clap for the narrative.
          Who cares if they've been lying for years, and we have documented proof of that (along with their changing positions), because you're just an antivaxxer conspiracy theorist idiot politicizing tragedy!

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Well, how about that plus direct involvement with media to propagandize the narrative and censor any opposition?

      3. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        Nardz....Did the people read the covid-19 vax release form? I did.

        It clearly stated the vax was an experimental treatment. Owning to my auto-immune disorder, I got 4 (yes four) jabs. I still got the China virus. Did not work.

        Sometimes, you come up on the wrong side of risk. That happened here.

        You're right about suppressing info on alternative treatments.

    7. JesseAz   2 years ago

      There is indeed a signal since 2020 of increased injury rates and cardiac events with athletes thats being studied now.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Civic pluralists understand that ideas move the world more than power does, which is why pluralists value debate and persuasion. […] Political zealots reject this, holding that society starts and ends with power.

    The civic pluralists in the medical authority establishment debated and agreed, so ignore those dissenting political zealots.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      A quite zealous reading of that paragraph.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Ha ha ha, ha... No.

        The zealotry is in attributing those specific qualities to those positions. He's not making it a secret how he wants to portray himself.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Is that pluralism the same as campus diversity?

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      his "pluralists" still want to control you he thinks they just want to debate you first.

      it's authoritarians vs. non-authoritarians. That's it.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    I was on "Meet the Press" this past weekend talking about tech regulation and pushing back against the idea that we need more of it.

    Not when alphabet agencies can simply get into bed with Silicon Valley corporate officers.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Cut out the middle man.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Almost hilarious but definitely evil statement from someone who has whined about Musk ruining Twitter by reducing "regulation".

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        And championed going to a service with a slight issue with massive child porn.

    3. Cyto   2 years ago

      It is true... in a world in which our federal government is spending maybe 100 million dollars a year to regulate online speech outside of their authority as granted by congress, pushing back against the people who want to stop this is the most important thing a libertarian could do.

    4. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      Is NBC still ignoring the Twitter Files?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Of course.

  10. JesseAz   2 years ago

    DoJ admits to having 400 documents regarding Hunter and Jim Biden's business dealings in China, refuses to release them. Now stating they can no longer confirm or deny the existence of documents they already admitted to hinting the documents were classified after the fact.

    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/lawsuit-alleges-doj-concealing-documents-hunter-jim-biden-foreign-payoffs

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      If the president's son is part of in internal conspiracy to sell out the taxpayers to Ukraine then yah, that's highly classified by the regime doncha know.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        But if you think that the documents should be released and the allegations investigated, then you're a conspiracy theorist.

  11. JesseAz   2 years ago

    1/3rd of Americans scheduled to be on Medicaid. 100 million Americans.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/report-soon-100-million-us-residents-will-be-medicaid

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

      Only 1/3rd? Biden has to step things up if they are going to hit 100% impoverished and on the dole by 2030. Outside of the privileged elite, of course.

    2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Which recipient will be the 100 millionth? An undocumented tourist from Mexico, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras or El Salvador?

  12. JesseAz   2 years ago

    California planning to micro stamp every gun and generate a database.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/california-planning-gun-microstamp-database

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      So much better than the standard serial numbers.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        It will make it easier when you want to check out your gun at the state fire arms safety storage facility.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          You think that they're going to let practically insurrectionists practice handling firearms?

    2. Leo Kovalensky II   2 years ago

      Anything with guns and government databases is a slippery slope at best.

      https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/california-police-chiefs-association-calls-for-firearms-microstamping-study-80722027.html
      The police were actually all for this in 2007. Now that there is talk about requiring this for all pistols, including police firearms, they want more studies. I would actually be fully supportive of a microstamping database for all police-issued guns only.

      But the real question on this issue; Will conservatives stick to their typical pro-liberty 2A stance or cave to the LEOs like they usually do?

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        Hey look, Leo's back to simp for the left.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 years ago

          What about my post makes you think I'm a lefty? I'm 100% against microstamping databases for citizens. I'm 100% for holding LEOs accountable for discharging their firearms.

          Oh... was it the part where I basically called conservatives boolickers?

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            You bootlick in every comment.
            That's the *real issue*

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Shrike never left.

    3. DRM   2 years ago (edited)

      A microstamp acts like a fingerprint in identifying ammunition cartridges and the gun from which it was fired. The firing pin imposes an identifying stamp on the round’s primer as it’s discharged.

      I mean, seriously, what are these people smoking?

      Yes, sure, you can require all new handguns sold in California to have special firing pins that imprint some identifying mark on casings when firing rounds.

      Which means, if the handgun used in a crime ...
      A) isn’t one of the tens of millions from before the law passed,
      B) isn’t from out-of-state,
      C) hasn’t been routinely fired enough to wear the mark off the firing pin,
      D) hasn’t had the firing pin deliberately filed to remove the mark, and
      E) hasn’t had the firing pin replaced for either routine maintenance or deliberately to avoid identification,
      ...police will be able to identify who was the original purchaser of the resold-through-a-chain-of-six-street-buyers piece that fired a given casing.

      Congratulations, California, you’ve just found a new way to heap taxpayer money into a pile and light it on fire.

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        Pretty much.

        But there is that old adage about only stupid criminals getting caught..... so maybe this is for them.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Congratulations, California, you’ve just found a new way to heap taxpayer money into a pile and light it on fire.

        Don't forget the massive piles of reasonable doubt generated at any given firing range as a byproduct!

  13. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Americans overwhelmingly support stronger rlection security measures like manned ballot drop off locations to verify voter.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/wkdamericans-support-security-measures-drop-boxes-used-collect-absentee

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      I first read your typo as erection security measures, and it still made sense (sort of).

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Fortified erections.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Sounds like that's right up SPB2's alley.

        2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

          Share Weigel's cock-ring!

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      It's insane that anyone would NOT support these things.

      Every single country in Europe requires in person voting with verifiable ID. Why? because voting is the most dangerous thing you can do to your fellow citizens. It needs to be completely protected.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Unless, of course, your goal is to cheat your way through them for your preferred candidate. Then you might just not want any real security measures for a proper election.

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          exactly

        2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          and what's more, if most lefties were convinced that Rs were cheating rampantly in elections, they would be all for tightening up election safety.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    It disfavored perspectives that dissented from official advice, and it encompassed not just demonstrably false statements but also speech that was deemed 'misleading' even when it was arguably or verifiably true...

    You don't say.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Which is why Mike openly supports censorship including the comment threads on this site.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Come on. "True" and "false" are 20th century white hegemony. All modern censorship is based on support or contradiction of the official narrative.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Popular consensus.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Once heralded as game-changers for Covid patients considered at risk for getting seriously ill — one was used to treat then-President Donald Trump in 2020 — monoclonal antibodies are now largely ineffective against current Covid variants...

    Should have ponied up more lobby dollars, monoclonal antibodies.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      now largely ineffective against current Covid variants…

      Chicken soup is now recommended.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Those better be free-range chickens.

  16. (Impeach Biden) Weigel's Cock Ring   2 years ago

    Tuesday, January 3, 2023. An absolutely beautiful. glorious day to start the process of getting some impeachments underway!

    May the disinfectant of sunlight begin to shine down on America and give this filthy, rotten, corrupt government of scoundrels the high colonic of truth, justice, and accountability it so desperately needs more so than ever before.

    #ImpeachMayorkas
    #ImpeachGarland
    #ImpeachBiden

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      HUNTER BIDENS PENIS !! is on the tip of the collective GOP tongue.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Did the Biden political campaign hire you yet? Or working directly with Hunters team?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          HUNTER BIDENS EMAILS!! is threatening the Biden administration's ass.

          They're the reason for Buttplug's thrice daily penis calls.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Yes, we know about your phallic obsession and envy already.

        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

          And this comment by the Pres probably was about someone else he didn't know. haha.

          https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1504167589760704527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1504167589760704527%7Ctwgr%5Ef9b483a99dae0e262a6e2a38c8b74871f8cae08c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.shorenewsnetwork.com%2F2022%2F03%2F16%2Fwatch-joe-bidens-bizarre-speech-about-naked-pictures-and-blackmail%2F

      3. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        It might be worth investigating why dozens of intel experts weighed in on a story that was supposedly about nothing more than dick pics. Seems like a waste of time, really.

        Unless, of course, the point was to put their thumb on the scale shortly before a Presidential election?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Multiple decades of GOP ratfucking and election shenanigans made the CIA/FBI suspicious of a copied disk found by a blind repair shop partisan moron.

          Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most plausible.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, a TDS-addled asshole and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            The IC already knew it was real, having it in their possession for almost a year. DNI told reporters they knew it was real before the original fake hacking narrative. Try again shrike.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

            So, the idea that career FBI and CIA staff and leadership, especially in the D.C. area, are all noble and politically unbiased is the "simplest" explanation?

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              They definitely aren't, but even then they affirmed it's real.

            2. damikesc   2 years ago

              Simplest? No.

              Most "libertarian"? Seems to be for some.

          4. Sevo   2 years ago

            "Multiple decades of GOP ratfucking and election shenanigans made the CIA/FBI suspicious of a copied disk found by a blind repair shop partisan moron..."

            Always remember, if turd posts it, it's a lie.
            turd is the slimiest sort of shit pile.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Buffalo Bills player Damar Hamlin is in the hospital after suffering a heart attack on the field during a Monday night football game.

    The fact that, no matter which side of the issue you're on, you're thinking it says something.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      It will never be admitted to.

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest, i.e. a loss of heart function. A cardiac arrest can be caused by a heart attack, but they are not the same thing. For some reason ENB chose to replace the original report's wording for what she apparently thinks is a synonym, but actually is not.

      1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

        That's because ENB is dumb

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Maybe because she's not a doctor and doesn't even play one on TV.

        1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

          Which is fine, but that only makes her decision to change the wording from the original report baffling.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            It’s called paraphrasing. Writers do it all the time.

            1. MT-Man   2 years ago (edited)

              Is it though? – “paraphrase”express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                Now ask Mike about the chemical composition of water.

                He's quite a scholar.

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  Spelled "comedian".

              2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                Sure. She likely thought she was keeping the meaning but was not aware of the pedantic difference between “heart attack” and “cardiac arrest”.

                And isn’t this whole thing really about signaling clique allegiance by nitpicking a Reason writer’s words.

                1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

                  Because describing it as a "heart attack" opens the event to speculation that it was caused by a blood clot and may have been a side effect of the COVID vaccines. This is not mere pedantry, this about journalistic responsible behavior.

                  "Cardiac arrest,...is significantly different from a heart attack. The second is usually caused by coronary heart disease, through which a clot starves the heart of blood and oxygen and damages the heart muscle itself. Cardiac arrest, which can be caused by electrocution and the like, but is usually the result of a genetic unhappiness, can affect the healthiest hearts and simply means that they suddenly stop pumping blood properly, the heart’s internal electrical system having become temporarily scrambled: CPR is urgent and further more complex treatment is mandatory."

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Mike, it takes no fewer words to write "cardiac arrest" than it does to write "heart attack". It's not summing up; it's not paraphrasing.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.

    Well, I mean, does it? Does it really?

  19. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    'But nine Republican lawmakers said yesterday they're still not quite on board with McCarthy for Speaker and want to see a "radical departure from the status quo."'

    OK, how about drag queen voting hour?

  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Wait, what's the difference between business tax climate and business climate tax?

  21. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    There could be any number of reasons, but since there's been a strange increase since early 2021 in the number of young, physically fit men suddenly having heart attacks, it's highly suspicious.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/monday-night-football-postponed-after-bills-hamlin-collapses-receives-cpr-field

    Things took an even more ominous turn when medical staff began performing CPR on Hamlin where he fell on the field. The entire Bills team surrounded him as lifesaving measures were administered for several minutes. Many players were clearly emotionally shaken by what they were witnessing.

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      Yeah, I feel terrible for the guy who hit him. This is gong to fuck him up.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        He wasn’t hit, he was doing the hitting.

        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

          He absorbed the hit; the ball carrier fell forward

        2. Ragnarredbeard   2 years ago

          You need to rewatch the play. The runner put his shoulder into him. Hamlin just wrapped him up and fell down with him.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

            Yep, which was enough of an impact to trigger the cardiac event. But definitely the DB was absorbing whilst the ball carrier was dispensing the hit

  22. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Public disclosure can be a real bitch.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bankman-fried-asks-judge-hide-identities-bail-guarantors

    "If the two remaining sureties are publicly identified, they will likely be subjected to probing media scrutiny, and potentially targeted for harassment, despite having no substantive connection to the case," wrote SBF's lawyers in a letter filed on Tuesday seeking redactions of the names of the two individuals who intend to sign as sureties to his bail.

    1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Funny how this guy rose to financial prominence after Epstein did not kill himself.

  23. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    To serve and protect the powerful and pedophile.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/us-virgin-islands-fires-district-attorney-following-suit-against-jpmorgan-regarding

    Three days later, George is now unemployed, after Governor Albert A. Bryan Jr. fired her for allegedly filing the suit against JPMorgan without his permission.

  24. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "Appeals court upholds policy linking bathrooms to biological sex"

    Time for another Shackford piece in which he scolds us cis-gals for not wanting to shower a few feet away from a transwoman's semi-erect "ladydick."

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      TERF!

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Q: What is a woman?
      A: Anyone identified as occupying a penis-free space.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Anyone who feels entitled to occupy a penis-free space.

        FIFY

    3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

      You make it sound tawdry and unwelcome

    4. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

      "Hey, Sandy Baby....I dropped my soap in your stall by accident. Can you pick it up for me because I am sure you don't want me in the stall with you."

  25. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    I'd never heard of Andrew Tate until recently.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/03/why-there-will-be-more-andrew-tates/

    Few lefties – or indeed women – will have enjoyed any more satisfying gifts over the Christmas break than seeing Andrew Tate arrested in Romania, for alleged human-trafficking offences.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      He got moved ahead of Maxwell in outrage and discovery of sex crimes.

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/aimeeterese/status/1610321149283667968?t=vuzpsJK5z9_OppaMhm4I3g&s=19

        This is how Andrew Tate could have dabbled in sex trafficking and got away with it.

        [Link to screenshots- DSA: "sex workers are comrades", "sex workers rights are labor rights"]

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      I got 5 paragraphs in before the article thoroughly convinced me that the internet would be a much better place with the ability to shoot any given poster in the face.

      Seriously, the secondhand euphemisms and innuendo are so fucking stupid and actively retarding I'm pretty sure the author asserts that Martin Luther is a bigger incel (or whatever) than Andrew Tate.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Yeah, it's kind of a bizarre article. I'm not sure what to think of it, but anything is worthy of discussion.

  26. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Soviet Kanuckistan.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/03/a-canadian-dystopia/

    In the meantime, while everyone was distracted by Zoom meetings, or was furiously tweeting about anti-vax Nazis giving out free hot dogs in the streets, the Canadian government moved on to rolling back women’s rights in the name of ‘trans rights’.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      They're practicing the same form of Lysenkoism, so it fits.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        And we know how well that official Science! worked out.

        1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

          Svelte Ukrainians. Tres chic

  27. Nardz   2 years ago

    Biden's vacation strikes again

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11592377/US-Virgin-Islands-AG-fired-just-days-sued-JPMorgan-Chase.html

  28. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Leaving college.

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/02/why-im-leaving-college-and-choosing-education-over-indoctrination/

    It’s become an institution more fixated on teaching students what to think than how to think. It’s focused on turning students into perpetual victims, anti-American sympathizers and — if it really hits the jackpot — full-fledged social-justice warriors by graduation.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      No loan forgiveness for you!

  29. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    Parody is obsolete: Exhibit #2,976

    Latest from @besslevin: A Comprehensive Guide to Why a Ron DeSantis Presidency Would Be as Terrifying as a Trump One

    "Terrifying."

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Literally DeHitler.

    2. Illocust   2 years ago

      Well yeah, got to boot up the fear machine. Can't risk a popular governor becoming a popular president. Got to keep the little people in line.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Especially one who fortified Florida as a GOP stronghold, first by kicking out the bitch in Broward County who had been playing reindeer games with the elections there ever since Jeb appointed her, and locking down election boards throughout the state.

        The last thing these people want is someone who could take that kind of suppression of Democratic electoral shenanigans nationwide.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Yep.
      Nothing more terrifying to a fascist than reduced government regulation.
      And lower taxes.
      And an improved economy for all, not just the favored groups.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Get woke! Denying someone's right to push fascism is fascism.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        Let's not forget executing the rightful and dutiful powers of the state to direct the public school systems of the state.

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Parody is obsolete: Exhibit #2,976

      Is it really parody if you're actually concerned? How about if everybody else believes it?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Then it's like the parody in a sci-fi pod-people plot.

    5. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      They are trying soooooooo hard.

    6. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      The ratio on this tweet is beautiful

  30. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Warmer Weather Sends Natural Gas Prices Plunging

    After the polar vortex that ended last week, natural gas prices are plunging this week as a result of warmer weather in both the U.S. and Europe.
    A weaker heating demand outlook has sent U.S. Natural Gas prices down nearly 9% to $4.062 per million British thermal units on the New York Mercantile Exchange in early Tuesday trading.

    $10 down to $4. Hilarious.

    HAPERINFLATION !!

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
      If turd posts numbers, they are either outright lies or cherry-picked to show the opposite of the truth.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Buttplug's pretending energy price fluctuations are related somehow to inflation.

        "$10 down to $4. Hilarious.
        HAPERINFLATION !!"

        Calling him "stupid" and a "liar" is kind of an understatement.

    2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      It's not just CNBC that wasn't thrilled with year 2 of the Biden economy.

      5 Tips for Investors After the Stock Market’s Worst Year Since 2008

      "The S&P 500, an index commonly used as a benchmark for U.S. stocks, ended the year down 19.4%. It was the index’s worst annual performance since 2008. Meanwhile, the Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled 8.8% for the year and the tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite fell a whopping 33.1%."

      Not the best time to be the official hype man for the Biden economy. But you'll manage I'm sure.

      #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        "...But you’ll manage I’m sure."

        As turd is a total stranger to the truth, it won't matter to him. turd lies, it's what turd does.

  31. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    Where are the mastodon links?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Nowhere to be found. Apparently it's full of kiddie porn.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Didn't stop Buttplug.

  32. mad.casual   2 years ago

    "The bathroom policy categorically deprives transgender students of a benefit that is categorically provided to all cisgender students—the option to use the restroom matching one's gender identity," Judge Jill Pryor wrote in her dissent.

    Prove it, fucktard.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The judge is begging the question about whether such facilities are segregated on the basis of gender or sex. As well as the purpose of the segregated facilities is to affirm the person's identity rather than accommodate the differences between males and females.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        AFAICT, she’s begging the question that if my right hand identifies as female, then judge’s refusal to share the space her eye socket occupies with my trans hand is an anti-trans hate crime.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      You have to admit that arguing about bathroom choices for delusional teens in actual courtrooms is getting close to peak retard.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        There is no peak. There is Infinite Retard.

    3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      "The bathroom policy categorically deprives transgender students of a benefit that is categorically provided to all cisgender students..."

      Bullshit. The rules are the same for everyone.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        And not only are the rules the same for everyone, you specifically have to disadvantage both cis- groups and one cis-group more than the other in order to make the rules "fair".

        It's rather blatant problematization nonsense. Astoundingly blatant from an adult and/or judge.

  33. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    The Republican opposition would be more believable if they had an alternative candidate, and would specify ALL their policies.

    The problem with republican "leadership" is they couldn't lead a pack of hungry wolves to fresh meat.

    That said, they are less of threat to freedom than Pelosi and her gang of blackshirts.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      The Republican opposition would be more believable if they had an alternative candidate, and would specify ALL their policies.

      They did offer up an alternative--it was Biggs, although he only got something like 31 votes, not even close to McCarthy's.

      Honestly, if the GOP was smart, they'd coalesce around Steve Scalise--a guy who, at first blush, won't marginalize the Freedom Caucus but won't bend over backwards for them, either, and even has the clout that comes from being the actual target of an assassination attempt by a radical leftist. Every time AOC opens her piehole about her life being in danger or her weird fantasy of being deep-dicked by a Republican, Scalise can laugh at her from the wheelchair his assassin put him in.

  34. Liberty_Belle   2 years ago

    All this time GOP has said the "other guys" are the problem with gridlock. What's the excuse now with this nonsense over speaker ?

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      This is a good thing. This is how it should be. Party bosses naming the leadership positions behind closed doors without discussion or dissent should not cheer anyone's heart. The rules should be discussed and argued. The priorities should be up for debate, not settled by seniority from prior sessions.

      Pretending that establishment Republicans having to fight for control is anything other than good news for libertarians is crazy.

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago

      A few rounds of voting over this are good and sorely needed.

      Too bad they weren’t able to kick out McConnell.

  35. Nobartium   2 years ago

    Not only shouldn't McCarthy be speaker, no elected rep should be either.

    Go big or go home.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Trump for Speaker? There are no rules stating that the Speaker must be a currently elected official.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

        How about that J6 guy with the horned hat? He has on-site experience, right?

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Amash is begging for the post on Twitter.

  36. Cyto   2 years ago

    The court's ruling on gender, sex and bathrooms is actually a very important one. The progressives have been pushing for gender identity to be definitiinally equal to sex. In this world, laws about discrimination would become a minefield. And bathrooms are a particularly odd hill to die on, since they allow discrimination either way... whether sex or gender identity.

    A ruling that sex discrimination laws apply to bathrooms, rightly read, would mean that you may not have separate bathrooms at all. Because either way, you discriminate.

    This would also then apply to women's sports. Once again, it would not just be an issue of trans women competing (with the limits currently being crafted all wiped away), if gender and sex are equal and having separate facilities for either gender or are discrimination.... then any logical application of this precept would mean that denying any man - gender or sex notwithstanding - access to women's sports and facilities would also be illegal.

    I really don't know what they are doing. How in the world having bathrooms based on your sex became a partisan issue is beyond me. I get that these transgender issues are very real and very sensitive for the people involved... but these are tiny edge cases. Deciding how to organize an entire society based on extreme edge cases is kinda insane. Redefining what men and women are based on political weaponization is more than kinda insane. Just because "studies" majors like to scream "Trans women ARE women" with purple faces does not mean the rest of us should base our perception of reality on their passion.

    The libertarian take on this can surely be to treat all people with dignity and respect, and that all people should have the right to love their life as they see fit, without government coercion... including wanting to live your life as a woman if you were born a man... but without sacrificing the dignity and rights of every other human in the country.

    The extreme edge cases may be intractably difficult. A 6'5" 20 year old trans woman who loves competing in basketball might not find a place in the NCAA or WNBA, despite her dreams and abilities. While this would be a difficult pill to swallow for some trans women, the alternative version is a much larger pill that damages many more people. Declaring gender identity to be the thing that is protected by law is the defacto death of any gender based segregation. Making this change is way beyond anything that the courts should ever consider doing on their own.

    I'm not sure why the libertarian voice is mute on these points. We have always supported LGBTQ rights, and we have never supported denying women's rights. Why would we support the destruction of one to serve the other? There is no bedrock principle here. ENB surely does not want me showering next to her at the gym. In my college years I could compete head to head with division 1 women's athletes who were my friends, in their chosen sport. I have played basketball against wnba players. I have personal experience that tells me just how big the gap is.

    My ex wife was a division one tennis player. She never won a single set from me. I was barely average in men's rec leagues.

    This should not be such a difficult exercise for a libertarian. It should not be difficult for anyone who is not of the progressive left. You don't have to want to ban Caitlyn Jenner from presenting as a woman in society to acknowledge this stuff.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      "You can't use the word 'insane' anymore." - Stanford University

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        For Stanford University to think they can define what words are or are not allowed is insane.

    2. Longtobefree   2 years ago (edited)

      “then any logical application of this precept would mean that denying any man – gender or sex notwithstanding – access to women’s sports and facilities would also be illegal.”

      Actually, the logical application would be to eliminate separate leagues in all sports. If a person (of any sex or gender) can’t make the team, they can’t play in the league. Go home women, make sandwiches and babies. (I don’t really care either way, because I don’t watch sports, and am too old to play anything but chess)

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        Pretty much

      2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

        Do you prefer to castle king side or queen side?

        1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          That depends on the situation and terrain.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

            Well played....

          2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

            If you're moving first do you tend to use a Queen or King's Gambit?

      3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        The interesting thing is that I have heard the writers here discuss the female sports issue, and since most of them are uninterested in sports and seem incapable of empathy with those who do not share their interests, have actually denied that anyone has real motivation to oppose the trans activists because they do not think they can exist.

        1. Cyto   2 years ago

          I don't understand any of the left on this issue at all, but the ones I really can't grasp are the folks who seem to truly, deeply believe the "Trans women are women" mantra. There are many clips of these hard left activists claiming that trans women have no advantage at all in sports.

          There is one clip on a cable news show where a bunch of women are claiming that Floyd Mayweather should be able to fight biological women if he transitioned. They literally were incapable of understanding that even at his advanced age, he would quite literally kill even the most skilled female fighters in his weight class.

          Even poor Don Lemon got caught up in this, as reliably leftist as he is. He was fairly well shouted down by his fellow anchors as he claimed men and women are not the same in sports settings. And that was just about the pay differential between men's soccer and women's soccer, an issue that does not involve serious injury and risk of death.

      4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        The premier league of every sport has no restrictions on who can play. NCAA men's basketball allows women to play. Last year the NCAA had a team showcase a female soccer player at hte kickoff as a gender stunt. She performed the worst kickoff in the history of the team.

        MLB will take a woman pitcher any day if they can get some strikeouts.

        there is no gender or identity rules for the top tier of sports. There's a reason for that.

        Women's sports are a protected b-league to give them a chance to experience and enjoy competitive sports, and that's great!

        1. Cyto   2 years ago

          I really cannot understand why this is hard to grasp. I don't know who is worse either... the ignorant "studies" major with the neon hair and nose ring who has no understanding or experience with sport who seal claps along whenever anyone makes some ludicrous claim about discrimination in athletics, or the people who do know better lies Brittney Griner and Megan Rappino who pretend that they are every bit as good as the top male players so they can earn seal claps from those useful idiots and maybe extort a few more dollars in subsidies.

          Griner was pretty awful as she proclaimed herself to be better than Demarcus Cousins.. the NBA All-star big man. I have seen videos of her playing 1 on 1 against male players to p0wn them and show just how great she is. They are all of her playing 40-ish fat guys who are out of shape and not terribly skilled and 6 feet or less. (Griner is 6'9")

          She just bangs and backs down her much smaller opponent.

          The fact that she did a few of these videos shows that she knows exactly what she is doing and saying.

          Former NBA player Brian Scalbrine did a similar series... one of the "worst players in the NBA", an end of bench guy and well past his retirement, he does videos where he plays top amateur guys and local club legends. As a bottom end NBA player who is old and retired... he smokes them.

          https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1496782-brian-scalabrine-demoralizes-1-on-1-scallengers

          Of Griner wanted to actually demonstrate something, he would be a more likely target, since he already has a niche making challenge videos.

          But she knows who she really is. The bluster is just for the clapping seal crowd.

          (None of which is meant to diminish her ability as a women's player. She is a generational talent with her size and strength, and few women can play at her level)

          1. Nardz   2 years ago

            It's just marxism

          2. SRG   2 years ago

            I am for equality in most fields, but in sport, it's ridiculous. The US national woman's soccer team once played a friendly with FC Dallas' boys' U-15 team and got creamed.

            At track meets here in LI there are local teenage boys who run times in the sprints that no woman in history, juiced or no, has equalled.

            It may be unfair, but the greater unfairness is letting an MtF compete as a woman.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            The former is worse, in my opinion, because they're completely clueless and mentally ill, and extorting everyone into going along with their insanity. Griner and Rappinoe are just trying to make a buck, it's just that they don't realize how easily refuted their arguments are, and are only taken seriously because the simp sports media is bullhorning their position.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Last year the NCAA had a team showcase a female soccer player at hte kickoff as a gender stunt. She performed the worst kickoff in the history of the team.

          I've seen legitimately good girl kickers in high school (played against one who was also a total smoke show, and there was another who graduated from my school four years later that helped the team win a state title), but they absolutely do not belong on even a Division III level playing field. These guys at the college level are the best their high schools had, are big, fast, and in the prime of their muscle growth and testosterone production, and would absolutely wreck these young women on kickoffs if no one knew they were a girl.

    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      There is at least a faction in libertarianism that wants an absolute right to define one's identity, even in the face of objective facts. This, unfortunately, is an irrational stance which leads to absurd conclusions. In this particular issue, for instance, you have had lesbians accused of bigotry because they publically stated that they do not want to be involved in sexual relationships with M to F transgenders.

      1. Cyto   2 years ago

        And I don't understand that logic at all. The libertarian position is "you get to decide who you want to have sex with". End of position.

        None of my business.

        At all.

        Not who. Not how. Not when. Not why.

        As long as I am not invited to participate or watch, I am not involved at any level whatsoever.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          And I don’t understand that logic at all.

          This is the point. For some people, other's ability to determine logic internal to themselves and/or as applicable to the world at large is inherently oppressive. The way to combat that is to act completely irrationally and break shit, regardless of the good that flows directly from the order and logic, regardless of the harm it will bring to yourself or others. Chaotic evil.

          The fact that some people who sometimes call themselves libertarians without any real or rigorous conception of what that means is an edge case relative to the above.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Deciding how to organize an entire society based on extreme edge cases is kinda insane.

      They've been doing this shit since the Americans with Disabilities Act.

  37. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    And Prof. Somin finally takes in some immigrants.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/03/ukraine-refugees-biden-administration-program/

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      But what color was their skin?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        I think Ukrainians come in standard white and pasty white.

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago

      Somin hates the USSR, Russia, and Putin. So of course he does.

      Typical of many immigrants, Somin apparently can’t let go of his old grievances and uses the US to get even.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        You say that like it's a bad thing.

  38. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    "The most important divide in American politics isn't red versus blue. It's civic pluralists versus political zealots," writes Nebraska Republican Sen. Ben Sasse:

    This is completely wrong, completely out of touch.

    It's big gov vs. small gov. That's it. That's the divide.

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      I am pretty sure that the actual divide is huge government versus massive government

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Or limited government v. total government.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Sasse is so completely blue-pilled that he's defending the same narrative that leftists have been spouting the last few years about any pushback against their agenda being "divisive."

      When anyone complains that civic consensus is being threatened by political fights, they give them game away that they really just want people to shut up so their globalist overlords can continue their dumb New World Order social engineering.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        The heavy handed, Constitutionally, and parliamentary dubious way the ACA was passed has had much to do with how the current political climate has developed. As well as how the Democrats have used it to enforce their ideologies on dissenting institutions. The Obama administration using it to sue the Little Sisters of Poor for insufficiently affirming the morality of contraception I suspect is a large reason why religious conservatives flocked to Trump on 2016. Trump may not have been a good man, but he was not going to make them bend the knee to progressive ideology.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Plus the fact that the phrase "moderate Democrat" is a complete load of shit. Look at how these people actually vote, and they inevitably fall in line with the party. The only ones who stand out as bucking the party are the AOC types who bitch that the Dems aren't implementing Fully Automated Gay Space Luxury Communism this very instant.

          The actual "Blue Dogs" that came in during the 2006 wipeout either went far left right after Obama took office, or were kicked out/quit by 2014 at the latest.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      These are both excellent takes. Totally correct.

  39. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-blames-pro-life-republicans-midterm-loss

    "It wasn't my fault that the Republicans didn't live up to expectations in the midterms," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "It was the ‘abortion issue,’ poorly handled by many Republicans, especially those that firmly insisted on No Exceptions, even in the case of rape, incest or life of the mother, that lost large numbers of voters."

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      Hard to argue with that point. My response to several states republican proposals over the last 2 years was "what are you thinking?".

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        The abortion debate gets clouded by Democrats who try and tie support for first-term abortion to support for second and third-term abortion, and Republicans who are either completely ineffectual at calling out this distinction, or go whole hog with total or near-total bans that aren't supported by the majority, either.

  40. Naime Bond   2 years ago

    Compromise always leads to solutions, e.g. 5 blacks equals 3 whites vs simply having it out, suspending Habeas Corpus, i.e. saving the Republic, '....by any means necessary....' followed by instituting laws that protect inalienable rights. These days compromise leads to 31 trillion in debt, 30 million illegals and counting, open borders, and locally, no bail laws, grooming of children, new homicide records, and a raft of other nonsense.

  41. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    "Twitter's ban on 'COVID-19 misinformation,' which Elon Musk rescinded after taking over the platform in late October, mirrored the Biden administration's broad definition of that category in two important respects: It disfavored perspectives that dissented from official advice, and it encompassed not just demonstrably false statements but also speech that was deemed 'misleading' even when it was arguably or verifiably true," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum.

    Everyone knew this was happening but they were dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

    now it's all coming out and it's a big nothingburger because everyone already knew it!

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  43. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    Some notes:

    – there is no doubt that the policy in question discriminates between persons on the basis of sex. The question was whether the discrimination met the appropriate level of scrutiny.

    – The majority concoluded, and I agree, that the policy discriminates on the basis of biological sex. Under controlling precedent, this classification is sub ject to intermediate scrutiny. Due to the long historical pedigree of sex segregated facilities, as well as students in school having narrower constitutional protections in school, this policy satisfies equal protection.

    – Adams and the dissent claim that this is actually discrimination on the basis of transgender status. This fails, because non-transgender biological females are also not allowed to use the boys’ room. It applies equally tyo the transgendered and the normal just like it applies equally to the Mormon and Protestant, equallty to the Black and white, and equally to the Star Wars cosplayer and the Halo cosplayer. Adams as such is being treated exactly the same as all biological females, nor would Adams be able to use the boys’ room by detransing.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      By the way:

      https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/21/switzerland-rejects-idea-of-a-third-gender-option-in-official-records

      “The Swiss government on Wednesday rejected the idea of introducing a third-gender or no-gender option for official records.”

  44. Dillinger   2 years ago

    I don't know when the pod-personing of Ben Sasse took place but it did.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Wasn't he a Tea Party guy at one point?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        iirc that's when he arrived on-scene

  45. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    School districts are arbitrarily defining capacity to keep transfer students out.

    yessss, yesssss. fight amongst yourselves!

  46. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    ..notes Politico.

    lol imagine getting your cutting edge medical info about a virus from... Politico. Might as well go to the Atlantic.

  47. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    The federal government needs to get out of the game of refereeing discrimination.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Then what would 60% of the federal government do?

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Because it's losing them money?

  48. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    Countdown until Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney switch parties in an effort to get back into Congress begins.

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      I think that would be good: Democrats deserve them.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Liz Cheney will probably have to move somewhere other than Wyoming. Kinzinger can just move to Chicago.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Pffbt. Boomer! You probably think bussing people out from the city to vote would be edgy.

        Just mail ballots from your district to people in Chicago.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Don't give these jackass Democrats in Chicago any new ideas on how to control downstate. Oddly, I'm sure some of them may have already thought of this.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Wyoming isn't really her home anyway; she's had a house in McClean, Virginia for years and is a total swamp creature; she only bought her place in Teton County, a champagne socialist haven, in order to run for Congress there in the first place as a legacy candidate.

        Switching parties means she'd have to take on Wexton in the primary, but I wouldn't underestimate her there. She learned a lot from her father about political skullduggery.

  49. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

    The worst states for taxes....

    Of course The People's Republic of NJ is on that list, Color me shocked.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      I'm just amazed there's a state worse than California.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        I'm shocked Illinois failed to make the list.

      2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

        Surprise!! There are 49 states worse than California (except Nevada and Arizona who are cool enough)

    2. JasonAZ   2 years ago

      Huh, all those states except Alabama have something in common. If it was Republicans government, you can bet your ass that ENB would have noted it and made a pounce reference

    3. raspberrydinners   2 years ago

      It states "in need of tax reform." That's quite open ended.

      I mean, the Koch masters decree that basically no taxes are good but would we want live in a state like that? Like their home state of Kansas who was closing schools and fucking up everyone's schedules (and more importantly kids' educations) because they couldn't pay for them?

  50. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

    "The bathroom policy categorically deprives transgender students of a benefit that is categorically provided to all cisgender students—the option to use the restroom matching one's gender identity," Judge Jill Pryor wrote in her dissent.

    No one has this right. How could they? They are far too many ways to express one's gender identity.

    So we use sex for bathrooms. Of which there are two.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      And, by the very "logic", you're explicitly depriving cisgender students of their privilege and preferentially handing it to transgender students.

      Not to mention that it has fuck all to do with sex or gender or identity and the beginning and end of the bullshit is: "School's bathrooms, school's policy." If the school wants to deny someone the use of the bathrooms because they identify as an assault rifle and they don't want them discharging on school grounds, either stop identifying as an assault rifle or find someplace else to do you business.

    2. Derp-o-Matic 6000   2 years ago

      Gender identity isn't a thing.

  51. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

    Re: Ukraine

    Looks like HIMARs lightning struck earlier this week. I think Russia is having a very bad week, mortality-wise, to start the year. I cannot say I am crying about that (Russian commies getting blown to bits).

    However, this war is entering a dangerous phase: the point where Russia discovers they cannot defeat Ukraine militarily on the field of battle, and contemplate tactical nukes. to force an ending on their terms.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      anyone cheering on this war is insane. Sending 100 billion to Ukraine is insane.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        for the reasons you stated..

  52. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

    On behalf of the 200+ editors at Reason, I propose ranked choice voting for house speaker.

    1. Cyto   2 years ago

      Ok, that is some funny stuff right there. Well played.

  53. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    Please stop saying "biological sex" as if there were another kind.

    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   2 years ago

      Casual? Gratuitous?

  54. raspberrydinners   2 years ago

    "McCarthy also vowed in the letter to limit proxy voting. "Congress was never intended for Zoom, and no longer will members be able to phone it in while attending lavish international weddings or sailing on their boat. We will meet, gather and debate in person—just as the founders envisioned," McCarthy wrote."

    Yeah, no thanks. Zoom or the like is PERFECT for Congress. Mainly because we need to uncap the house and have something more like 1000 reps so it's harder to gerrymander people out of their vote and so small ass states like Wyoming and the like don't have outsized influence.

  55. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    ...But McCarthy doesn't have TDS like most Power-Mad politicians do! /s
    Gosh; Who knew a president who actually De-Regulated POWER and cut taxes would be such a pariah to so many politicians. Never underestimate the power of Nazi-Propaganda.

  56. RedPilledConservative   2 years ago (edited)

    Good grief!

    ENB = just another partisan hack!

    She should just go to work for MSNBC!

    At least Republicans debate principles!

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  58. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Exactly. But when the criteria is evidence of sufficient hatred for Trump, then anyone not on the TDS spectrum is a "Republican".

  59. mad.casual   2 years ago

    I thought they were an autonomous collective.

  60. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Fair enough but in principle, any basis that allows you to say "you cant force me to testify" is a good one.

  61. mad.casual   2 years ago

    Is "You can't force me to testify because 'I, Woodchipper' is mentally retarded." a good reason (you know, in principle)?

  62. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Doesn't he get upset for us "misinterpeting" his posts?

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  64. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    How's the mud crop this year?

  65. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    Be patient, the leftist cumstain is getting his side's complaints about the House and Senate mixed up.

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