The Covert War on Christmas
Friday A/V Club: That time Orson Welles tried to assassinate St. Nick

When radio was king, Norman Corwin's The Plot To Overthrow Christmas was a perennial holiday favorite, not unlike A Charlie Brown Christmas or How the Grinch Stole Christmas! in the TV era. In his great broadcasting history The Golden Web, Erik Barnouw calls the play "a holiday prank" with "one foot in the world of international plots, conspiracies, and coups d'état"; with the other foot, "it was an experiment in—and a playful comment on—the radio medium."
The setup is simple: Mephistopheles wants to destroy Christmas once and for all, because "as long as this continues to be/The race of man will not belong to me." So he gathers a gallery of rogues worthy of the jury box in The Devil and Daniel Webster and asks them for ideas. Caligula proposes poisoning Christmas candies. Simon Legree suggests bribing Congress to ban Christmas. My favorite idea comes from Emperor Nero, who declares:
I've heard just lately that men are giving the razz
to classical music by making it jazz.
They're swinging Bach and what is keener,
they're doing the shag to Palestrina.
As a connoisseur of music, of course I love
the works of Rimsky-Korsakov.
But today I note, with a bitter shrug,
they've made Scheherazade a jitter-bug….If you take and swing all the Christmas carols,
why think of the evil! Just barrels and barrels
of sacrilege every time you play
a pious song in a profane way.
Why, once you entice them to swing Noel
then victory belongs to us, fiends. Well?
But the plan that carries the day comes from Lucrezia Borgia, who suggests that they assassinate Santa Claus. Nero gets the assignment and is dispatched to the North Pole, where—spoiler alert—he instead learns the true meaning of Christmas:
SANTA: Have you ever seen the beauty of a sprig of holly,
or felt for a moment how it feels to be jolly?NERO: Golly!
Santa has a lot more to say about the spirit of the season—none of which, you'll notice, involves Jesus at all. This is every bit as secular a tribute to Christmas as those jazzy arrangements in Nero's discarded plan, a fact that I'm sure Corwin recognized when he wrote it.
The Plot To Overthrow Christmas was first performed on December 25, 1938, and new productions were periodically mounted in the ensuing years. The one below was broadcast in 1944, with Orson Welles as Nero. Pour yourself an eggnog and enjoy:
(For past editions of the Friday A/V Club, go here. For other Christmas editions, go here, here, here, and here. For other editions featuring Orson Welles, go here, here, and here.)
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Hey, Nero, Rimsky-Korsakov was a fine composer!
It's almost as if Nero's musical judgment was flawed.
The war on Christmas is merely part of the larger war on Christianity.
Christianity is about caring for all other people. Satanism cannot exist in such an environment.
When anyone wishes me “happy holidays” I always respond with “merry Christmas”.
Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity except that the two have been associated for a long time.
Course there ain't no Easter Bunny laying Easter Eggs in the Garden of Gethsemane or Golgotha either.
“Christ mas”
“Christmas is an annual festival commemorating the birth of Jesus Christ,” wiki
How stupid are you?
What we call "Christmas" is a post-solstice celebration that has been celebrated around the world for thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of years. "Christmas" is just the latest branding of it.
You obviously can’t comprehend what you read.
Celebrating the birth of Christ which falls near the solstice doesn’t make it a celebration of the solstice. Logic much?
The celebration is “Christ mas“ Hahaha
So, if I go outside with a Magic Marker and write "Maserati" on my Honda CRV, will it go 180 mph?
If you celebrate the birth of Christ with customs and traditions that date from before the cultures that they came from became Christian, you're celebrating the same old holiday under a different brand name. Calling it "Christmas" doesn't change what it is.
Now, if you're a weirdo who marks Christmas by going to church and praising Jesus, and nothing else—no "Christmas" tree; no Yule log; no gift exchange; no feasting; no lights; no candles; no wreath on the door; no cookies; no nothing—then maybe you have a point, but the timing is still a problem. There is no evidence that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th.
Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ aka god in Christianity.
If you’re a weirdo who celebrates CHRISTMAS for any other reason, the jokes on you. Hahaha.
Most celebrations involve food and music for merriment and borrow elements from others.
fill your boots. Merry Christmas.
Who is this Misek who is so full of the Christmas spirit?
Didn't your hero despise Christianity? Didn't he substitute his own rituals when he could get away with it?
Ackshuyally no. Tbe Nazi Party endorsed Positive Christianity in the 25-Point Platform (a De-Judaicized version of Cbristianity) and Hitler even played Santa Claus for the Hitler Yutes--as Mussolini would call them--at Christmas!
In order to find a version of Christianity he was willing to promote to the public, he had to go all the way back to Marcion, the de-Judaizing would-be reformer who'd been denounced as a heretic at a very early date.
And I doubt very much he even believed that emasculated version, his public statements in support of Christianity were worth about as much as his public statement about having no further territorial demands in Europe as of 1938.
I saw their reference to vague non-denominational Positive Christianity (24th point), but I also note that in the 6th point it says:
"We oppose the corrupting parliamentary custom of filling posts merely in accordance with party considerations, and without reference to character or abilities."
And we know how well they carried out *that* promise.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-party-platform
Also, there are the little facts that the Nazis admired Luther, outlawed Atheist/Freethought Societies, and Hitler and the Catholic Church never renounced each other. And The Third Reich was a continuation of The First Reich known as The Holy Romqn Empire.
"Hitler and the Catholic Church never renounced each other"
Do you mean that Hitler made a treaty with the Church (just as Hitler made a nonaggression treaty with Poland shortly afterwards)?
But Hitler renounced that treaty...by systematically violating it. As documented by the Pope when he renounced Hitler:
https://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html
"outlawed Atheist/Freethought Societies"
Hitler may not have considered himself atheist (and even if he wasn't atheistic, that wouldn't automatically make him Christian), but the Pope had his number:
"Take care, Venerable Brethren, that above all, faith in God, the first and irreplaceable foundation of all religion, be preserved in Germany pure and unstained. The believer in God is not he who utters the name in his speech, but he for whom this sacred word stands for a true and worthy concept of the Divinity. Whoever identifies, by pantheistic confusion, God and the universe, by either lowering God to the dimensions of the world, or raising the world to the dimensions of God, is not a believer in God. Whoever follows that so-called pre-Christian Germanic conception of substituting a dark and impersonal destiny for the personal God, denies thereby the Wisdom and Providence of God who "Reacheth from end to end mightily, and ordereth all things sweetly" (Wisdom viii. 1). Neither is he a believer in God."
"the Nazis admired Luther"
There are a couple possible explanations here: (a) the Nazis really liked Luther's doctrine of salvation by faith alone or (b) they really liked Luther's pamphlet denouncing the Jews and calling for the burning of their synagogues. Which seems more plausible?
"The Third Reich was a continuation of The First Reich known as The Holy Roman Empire"
Sure, that was their conception of themselves. But as illustrated above, they had to stretch a bit to make the comparision.
Margrave, that big bunch of Catholic gobbledegook didn't mention the name Adolf Hitler or even the Nazi Party even once and made no mention of excommunication or expulsion.
You would think that a Church with more wealth than the 10 biggest U.S. Corporations and moral suasion over hundreds of millions would have the stones to name Adolf Hitler and the Nazis by name.
And when it comes to the religions and beliefs of others, I perhaps naively go by what people actually say and do. Whether the Catholic Church and it's sects or Protestantism's 30,000+ denominations, and Orthodoxy's national offshoots want to quibble and nit-pick about it, I'll leave up to them.
See my reply to Angry Porcupine for more on the pre-Christian origins of Christmas.
Happy Holidays and Fuck Off, Nazi!
I would say, "whoosh! right over your head", but that's not what happens with you. Other commenters' facts and logic hit you right in the face and run down your chest, and you don't even feel it.
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My Maserati does 185. I lost my license, now I don't drive.
You know where else people drove that fast and lost their freedom of movement at the same time?
The vicinity of Cholame, California?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean#Accident_and_aftermath
Wow! That's esoteric! You win a Christmas Cookie for that one! 🙂
You do undrrstand that the Church chose December 25 as the day to celebrate Christmas to deliberately coincide with the end of the Pagan holiday of The Feast of Saturnalia, which ran from December 17 to December 24, right?
You also understand that there are a whole lot of reasons to celebrate at this time of year besides Christmas, again, often celebrated long before the beginning of Christianity, right?:
List of Multinational Festivals and Holidays, November-January--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays#November
And, in the final analysis, you do understand that you can Fuck Off, Nazi?
I always respond with “merry Christmas”
Not Heil Hitler?
Misek again? I hate those guys.
There's more than one Misek? Perhaps a Mini-Misek?? Even a Marching Moron Batallion of Miseks???
Now I'll have visions of peach pits releasing cyanide dancing in my head all night tonight! 😉
Paraphrasing Indiana Jones.
I see.
If Misek was from Illinois, I would immediately recognize Jake from The Blues Brotherssaying:
"An Illinois Nazi. I hate Illinois Nazis." 🙂
Merry Christmas from me as well! And I say that knowing full and well that I’m celebrating a very Jewish nativity scene, which probably bugs Herr Misek. You know who else it would bug?
More Jews need to celebrate Christmas.
Are you circumcised?
Ask your mother.
Nobody's Mother is that nymphomaniacal.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Or else?
Fuck Off, Nazi!
All Kosher livestock in the Manger? Oh boy! Beef Brisket and Chicken Chow Mein for dinner before going to the Christmas movies! 🙂
Have you ever wondered why every topic becomes a rant about Nazis with these jokers who can’t refute what they deny or prove what they claim?
It’s so repetitious and leaves no room for critical thinking.
Research brainwashing.
https://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-and-Avoid-Brainwashing
Nero probably condemned the modern Jazzed-up version because he had a legendary weakness for strings and candlelight. 😉
Christmas started as one day, but now it rules all of December with an iron fist and has occupied most of November. Around here it's even been launching probing attacks into late October.
If there's a war on Christmas, Christmas is definitely winning.
True, but that is only for retail purposes. I reality Xmas was hijacked years ago but atheists and non-Christians just to get some free stuff. Just like the gays hijacked the rainbow, or the word gay itself. When you can't have your own you just take from someone else.
And Christmas was hijacked from The Feast of Saturnalia, Yuletide, and other Pagan Winter Solstice celebrations and the Story of Jesus has parallels in other myths of Gods who were born of a Virgin on December 25, performed miracles, raised the dead, and died and we're reborn. I believe the book of Jeremiah also refers to non-Abrahamic religions decorating trees with Silver and Gold.
None of this is unique and new. Eat shoots and leaves and be happy this Holiday Season, porcupine! 🙂
Also, last time I checked, rainbows don't have a servicemark sayjng:
Servicemark Circa 4000 B.C.E. by JHVH-1, as confirmed by Bishop Ussher.
Thus, the rainbow is Public Domain. You could use it if you like, Sweet Meat. 😉
Sewing and craft sections of stores get their bolts of Christmas-patterned cloth as early as July. One cloth store in my area had a separate Christmas store that sold Christmas items and opened all year long, seven days a week! And,of course, Christmas items are available all year long worldwide through the sales medium of Cyberspace!
Bill O’Reilly and Rob Misek are both full of Baby Jesus shit!
Good to hear from Jesse, but my vote goes to girl-bullier Simon Legree for suggesting Congressional prohibition panaceae.
It worked in the past and could well work agin
When Methodist Terror Anti-Saloon men
Get mean, mad and scrappy and dirty their nappies
Haunted by fear someone, somewhere is happy.
Where’s the seventh comment?
At the time only six are visible but the counter shows seven.
I deleted some spam, and for some reason the counter refuses to acknowledge that this happened. You’re not missing out on much, unless you came here hoping for an opportunity to make money working from home.
That’s your job eh fuckwit?
You should be fired.
Misek being a cunt, yet again. That is truth.
Forget that Winter Wonderland because NOW IT’S…. SPRINGTIME FOR MISEK!!!!
Like Babs would put it, "Ageless and Evergreen!" 😉
"Memories...may be beautiful and yet...much too painful to remember..." 😉
Pay no mind to our resident Holocaust-Denier Neo-Nazi.
Although the initial shock of no Reply button gave me a start, I glad it works again and thank you for the effort to get rid of biz-opp spam, funny though some of it is. Here's hoping it's not a Sisyphean task in the coming New Year.
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!
The war on Christmas is really part of the larger satanic war on Christianity.
Christianity is demonstrated by caring for all others, while satanism cannot exist in such an environment.
When someone wishes me “happy holidays” I always answer “merry Christmas “.