Real ID Enforcement Has Been Pushed Back. Again.
The Real ID Act was passed in 2005. 17 years later, it's worth asking if it's finally time to scrap the law.

The Real ID Act was passed in 2005. 17 years later, the law has yet to go into effect. On Monday, government officials announced that enforcement would be delayed another two years.
What's taking so long? Rollout of the law, which would require travelers flying domestically in the United States to show a security-enhanced photo ID, has been plagued by confusion and state-level noncompliance. Despite years of warnings that enforcement was coming soon, it seems increasingly clear that Real IDs are far from actually becoming required at U.S. airports and federal buildings.
The Real ID Act was passed in 2005 as part of a wave of post-9/11 security-enhancement measures. The law was intended to curb the use of forged identity documents—apparently in response to the fact that most of the 9/11 plane hijackers used fake IDs to pass through airport security. In order to get a Real ID, individuals must provide extra documentation proving they are U.S. citizens or legal residents. The resulting ID cards are designed to prevent duplication or fraud and are marked with a star.
While government officials have cited the pandemic as reason to delay the law's enforcement for the seventh time, continued pushbacks—starting from the law's intended enforcement date in 2008—indicate that there are greater issues with ensuring Real ID uptake than COVID-related barriers.
Since the law's passage, attempts to prepare the nation for the eventual enforcement of the law have been faced with pushback from many states, which were wary of creating a federal database of ID holders. State-level straggling has been highly effective. For example, the Real ID-approved cards weren't issued in all 50 states until 2020—a startling 15 years after the law's passage. As of 2021, only 43 percent of state-issued IDs are Real ID-compliant, according to the Department of Homeland Security.
The continued delay of the Real ID Act's enforcement—a delay that threatens to stretch into two decades—indicates how pointless the law is in the first place. While the Real ID Act was presented as a solution to an urgent national security problem, there is precious little in way of evidence supporting the idea that this additional hurdle could prevent terrorism.
Instead, as Reason's Scott Shackford wrote last year "the government is demanding that Americans give up more of their privacy to the feds, subject themselves to additional inane bureaucracy, and carry around proof that we're citizens to be able to fly, even though none of that makes us more secure."
Nearly two decades after the Real ID Act passed, it's time to rethink this piece of post-9/11 security theatre. Cutting off possibly millions of Americans from air travel won't make the skies safer; what it will do is create yet another unnecessary and invasive level of government surveillance.
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You never scrap, Emma. You pushback and 'have a referendum' over and over until you get what you want.
Persistence. The ratchet only goes one way.
It’s so important that it still isn’t done.
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The risk of not implementing it is some potential terrorist with not real ID will create an incident and snarl air traffic.
Which is pretty much the same risk of what will happen if they do ever implement it.
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Notice what they achieved though: greater control over law abiding people was achieved while scofflaws, a Dem constituency, are protected. This two tiered system of law is exactly what the left wants. You can recognize this framework in many contexts including guns, drugs, and taxes.
Those dastardly Dems got all those Republicans to sponsor the bill (138 Rs vs 2 Ds in the house) and George Bush to sign it.
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A whole lot of assertions with no backup, congrats on modern journolisting so well. How does Real ID infringe on your privacy in ways that State IDs don't? I can see how it makes viting less secure, so any investigation into the holdouts being aligned with those who insist any and all election security is unnecessary or racist? Anything at all beyond your childish emoting?
"In order to get a Real ID, individuals must provide extra documentation proving they are U.S. citizens or legal residents. "
So you have to obtain documents from the government so you can show them to the government so that the government will give you another document that you can show to the government to prove who you are.
You seem to be complaining about the lack of a centralized database that would allow a TSA agent to pull up a picture, name, and immigration status for anyone on demand.
Utopia!
Nope you also need/can bring other docs like a gas bill.
But it also was very unnerving to give some DMV flunky all my important documents that now needed to be scanned into their "super secure" system. The govermnent exposed me to hackers when OPM got hacked, so wasn't exactly happy about this. Also just wait till they use this against
parentsdomestic terrorists to deny them government services.They don't scan anything.
This is the problem. Illegal aliens with fake ids won’t be able to fly, and that’s discrimination.
This is how you know it will never actually go into effect.
Ackshully two planeloads of freshly fence-hopped "furriners" flew into Martha's Vineyard a little while back. I'll lay high stakes at long odds NOT ONE OF THEM except for crew had any papers of any real significance that were valid.
One rule for we-uns, nuther one for "dem". Two tiered justice ain't justice.
Look at Reason, dissing on Republicans again. The Real ID Act was signed by Bush. That means it is good and wonderful, like everything Republicans do. If you disagree then you’re a leftist.
Edit: Republicans held the House, the Senate, and the Presidency in 2005. So any criticism of Real ID is criticism of Republicans, which equals support for leftists.
Sad
Three cheers for state legislatures passively telling the federal government to get bent.
But security theater!
As long as the democrats are dropping the mask, just go for internal passports and be done with it.
You have a reason for leaving your county, Comrade?
Hey dum dum, this was passed by a GOP POTUS, Senate and House.
If all new state ids are Real IDs, this is about forcing people to replace their licenses before the would otherwise expire?
That's a problem that will solve itself.
In AZ your license doesn't expire until you turn 60.
That's kinda funny.
And then you get a new on in the mail. Same picture.
CA kept issuing non "Real-ID" compliant licenses after rolling out the compliant ones. Renewing into a compliant Real-ID license required a physical trip to the DMV, and since the rollout happened in late 2019 millions had to do it at a time when the DMV "appointment" system was shut down and the offices officialy weren't taking any walk-ins (I got there 10 minutes after opening at the field office, and only 2 people behind me in the line got inside the building that day). I did have the option at that time to just get the "automatic" renewal of my license in the mail, but it would have been the non-compliant version.
At that time, the official line from the Feds was that the Real-ID would be required to board any domestic airline flight starting 3 months after I got my license renewed. That has now been delayed at least twice since then, but the State of CA didn't delay the Real-ID requirement for those in the state hoping to exercise their 2A rights; both for the purchase of firearms and for purchasing ammo.
I actually brought all my docs to get a real id on my last DMV visit, but their system was down so they told me I had to come back and gave me a non compliant ID. That was a while ago and I just shined it on.
At least with this mess I can just wait until it expires before I bother again.
If all you need it for is flying, then wait (or go the passport route, if that agency is out of their pandemic panic yet).
The trick with CA is that Newsom didn't let the fact that the state couldn't get people their compliant IDs slow him down from requiring them for 2A-related "background check" procedures. I saw someone at a FFL in Cerritos get sent away because their non-compliant ID wasn't considered acceptable for the CA State DOJ process, and I'm assuming that those with non-compliant IDs get routed into one of the secondary/tertiary procedures for ammo purchases (which can cost up to $20 instead of $1 and take weeks instead of minutes) as well.
Yeah, the DMV staff were "working from home" at that time. So my wife could never get an appointment to renew her license, since no one answered the phones.
When I did it in August of 2020, the staff were back in the building but the appointment system was officially out of operation while they got caught up on all the existing appointments which were cancelled during the 10 weeks that all of the field offices were completely closed.
COVID-related shutdowns did not begin in the USA until February or March 2020. So I think it very unlikely that CA DMV personnel were working from home in 2019. If it was impossible to make an appointment or walk-in, that was incompetence, not fears of COVID.
My driver's license was due for renewal in November 2019. I made an appointment on-line, brought my birth certificate and some utility bills, and was in and out in 15 minutes. But this is Michigan, where the Secretary of State is an elected office and clearly responsible for the driver and car license offices. If the SOS wants his or her job or political career to continue, he or she had better ensure less than 50% of the customers are dissatisfied. In my experience with DMVs in other states (New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Virginia), there must be no such pressure to keep the customers happy; incompetence is normal and procedures couldn't be worse if they had been designed to irritate every customer. Not so in Michigan; I have encountered one other government bureaucracy that ran as well, but that was in a business trip to Germany.
Playing devil's advocate here, but what evidence are they citing that eliminating forged ID would not make us more secure? I realize that there have been no significant airplane attacks since September 11th even though Real ID has only been partially implemented; and I realize that requiring ID for ordinary citizens going about their lawful business is - or should be - unconstitutional. And I also realize that Federal officials and security systems have always been woefully incompetent, although maybe that's actually a good thing for liberty. But ... wait ... where was I going with this?
You were going to say that locking the cockpit was faster and cheaper and more effective than REAL-ID, but a lot less fascist.
And allowing CCW on planes would be even cheaper and quicker.
The pilots are packing.
TSA reportedly misses up to 80% of simulated weapons in random tests, depending on which airport. With those kinds of odds, it's hard to say that they're really trying to prevent CCW on a lot of flights.
It's amazing that nobody with violent intention ever thought to put some kind of explosive device inside of a bottle big enough that the security checker would tell them to leave it or throw it away right there where the front of the lines are all crowded in together.
It's also amazing that only one person ever thought to just gun down the crowd standing in line at security, only a few months after 9/11/2001. He was shot down very quickly and with pinpoint accuracy, but that's because the fool picked the line for El Al, which was guarded by Israel's best. Anywhere else at an American airport, he'd have been facing TSA agents, at best trained to the standard of mall cops.
The lack of any more attacks on airliners after 9/11/01 has nothing at all to do with policy changes by any government.
Prospective hijackers know that the only way for a small number of people to control a much larger number in an enclosed space is if the large crowd believes that compliance is in their collective interest. There's no amount of armament which will enable 4-5 people to maintain control of 50-100 if the larger group believes they have "nothing to lose", especially when everyone is locked in the same metal tube together.
Literally the safest time to fly in the history of US air travel was in the weeks/months immediately following that attack
>The lack of any more attacks on airliners after 9/11/01 has nothing at all to do with policy changes by any government.
One small niggle about this statement. They DID solve the problem with a policy change -- locking the doors to the cockpit.
The reason the 9/11 hijackers got away with it is that there was a policy in place that said you just give them the plane and then negotiate when you land. So, this is a policy change, and a good one.
Now, the doors are locked and hijackers cannot expect to find compliant crew when they pull out a pen knife. More likely, they'll find the nearest half dozen of us beats them to a bloody pulp and ties them to their chair.
They actually made threats of a bomb on board.
And they all had valid ID.
With or without the "reinforced" locks on the cockpit doors and the change in airline policy, nobody was going to find a compliant flight crew ever again.
Even if they did, they're still locked in a tube with a crowd they can't possibly hope to control and who won't just accept being held hostage for a time anymore, and once that crowd re-takes the cabin, they'll be coming for the cockpit next and the "nearest half dozen beats the hijackers to a bloody pulp" outcome still happens 8 feet from where it would have.
The policy change and moderate physical reinforcement of newer cockpit doors are minor factors which so far get to claim to have been successful for 20 years because they were instituted after the last incident in which anyone would ever attempt to hijack a US carrier airliner anyway.
Might as well claim that the heavy use of hot sauce on food in the southeastern USA is a major factor in preventing polar bear attacks in that region. Or that the heavy cultivation of pineapple and sugar cane in Hawaii keeps the island free from wild elephants.
You need your ID for just about everything besides voting. Standardizing the various state-issued IDs just seems to me like good non-partisan governance, exactly the kind of thing the federal government is supposed to do. Business can be fined or shut down, and employees can be criminally charged for selling age-restricted products to minors.
What kind of statist fantasy do you fantasize about, jackboot licker?
Except in the few places on the border, it doesn't matter if all states have standardized ID - you just need to be familiar with your state's standards.
Beyond that, it's simply not something that is in the enumerated powers of the federal government.
Remember, there is a difference between offering a standard and mandating everyone follow that standard.
If the Fed's standard is any good - and if it is useful to - then the states will adopt it voluntarily.
"You need your ID for just about everything besides voting."
Funny thing. Except when applying for a driver's license in Oregon (I used my non-REAL ID for the purpose), and writing checks for purchasing new automobiles, I haven't shown my driver's license, IIRC, since 1993, to anyone except my bank.
Even the realtor who sold me my current home (I paid the full amount by check) did not ask for my ID.
Is your bank a bunch of racists or something? You’ve never been on a plane? Never been carded? I actually have to bring my ID with me when I vote (the horror). You're supposed to have it when driving. You've never been pulled over? You must be even whiter than me.
When I need to go to the bank I use my bank card in the terminal at the teller.
Haven't been in a plane in over a decade
Haven't been carded since before I hit 30.
I don't get pulled over because I drive in a rural area and haven't seen a cop for 6 months.
"You must be even whiter than me."
I might be. But I do have some Irish in me. According to some, that makes me likely to drink and fight a whole bunch more than the Englishers.
It's a Patriot Act requirement to show ID for real estate transactions. Are you sure you actually own the house? Or the person selling it did?
"It’s a Patriot Act requirement to show ID for real estate transactions. Are you sure you actually own the house? Or the person selling it did?"
That's kind of funny. I guess the realtor was confident I had the funds. Besides which, if the check was no good, the transfer of title would not have gone through.
Yeah, that's a no from me dog
It's not a federal function to regulate state IDs.
The cop-out in the Real ID law is that it's possible to get a compliant US Passport, and that the main requirement the Feds seem to be imposing is for air travel (rules set by DoT/DHS because of the high percentage of domestic air travel which crosses state lines).
Other requirements, such as the firearms/ammo purchase background checks in CA, are imposed at the State level. I don't know if a Real ID is required for the NICS "instant" background check, but it's considered to be sufficient I'm sure.
My flight from LA to SF doesn't cross state lines, but they still check ID.
I guess I could always take the bullet train instead. Oh, wait...
I get that you're just being deliberately obtuse about this, but is there any chance that plane continues on to Portland or Seattle?
Even if it only goes back and forth between LA and SF, or flies a loop including SD and Palm Springs, would it make any sense for the airline to try to operate a handful of routes under a different set of policies than the hundreds of other flights they have every day passing through those two airports, or the thousands they operate nationally. Ticketing and gate agents already have one of the shittiest jobs I can imagine, what's to be gained by complicating their work, especially when TSA is just going to insist on seeing the same ID for access to the boarding gates anyway.
Imagine trying to operate a movie theater or other kind of entertainment venue where one seat in each screening didn't require a ticket but online/app based ticketing isn't a possibility. Do you handle who gets that seat via the box office? If so, you're adding 10 seconds to every customer's transaction (and frustrate the staff) just to make 1% or fewer of the customers a bit happier for a minute? Does anyone who wants that seat have to go to the usher and find out if it's already been claimed for a particular screening (then 90+% of the time has to go back to the box office and buy a regular ticket anyway)? How long before everyone involved gets sick of the whole ordeal and stops asking about the free seat? Do you continue the policy at that point, or just go back to having the same ticketing process for every seat?
Maybe if you started an airline which only flew between those 2 or 3 cities, but you'd still have to operate out of airfields small enough that TSA wouldn't control access to the gates (or operate via the private terminals like Jet Suite X does), but those airfields generally lack the infrastructure to accommodate a 737 or even a 100 seat "regional" jet like an Embraer or Bombardier.
I'm not intimately familiar with the law, but it sounds like it doesn't mandate much of anything. If you have to show your ID to get on an interstate plane ride, or buy age-restricted products in a state in which you don't live, I think standardized ID could fairly be characterized as regulating interstate commerce.
I wouldn't.
Especially as currently it's obvious that states can handle ids from different states - indeed, even different countries- just fine.
There is no practical justification for federalizing I'd and, at a minimum, a security justification for not using one standard across the country. Ie, a flaw in the security of the I'd system is limited to less than the whole country.
You need your ID for just about everything besides voting. Standardizing the various state-issued IDs just seems to me like good non-partisan governance, exactly the kind of thing the federal government is supposed to do.
First of all, the first sentence is simply not true, and even if it were true, that in and of itself does not make it a good and desirable thing.
Secondly, the idea of a government-issued ID and a 'citizen ID number' have always been anathema to notions of individual liberty.
One of the main oppositions to Social Security back in the day was the very notion that the FedGov would be keeping a database of all citizens and assigning them all numbers, which supporters promised would never be used as a citizen identification number or for tracking citizens in any way.
Driver's licenses, as well - there was a huge controversy when law enforcement decided they wanted to use driver's license numbers to identify and track people (for our safety of course) because that was explicitly not supposed to be the purpose of driver's licenses.
But the driver's license came to be so necessary in having been tied to other employment laws (to prove your citizenship) that we then had state governments issuing state IDs that weren't driver's licenses.
Now you come along and insist we need traceable Federal Citizen ID cards (for our safety of course) to "standardize" the haphazard State ID card system.
The first sentence was obviously hyperbole and I never said we need federal ID. I suggested people should have some kind of assurance that an out of state ID is valid, and the federal government as a role in fleshing out the differences, but that is explicitly not federally issued ID.
Also, I'm willing to bet the federal government already knows about you.
Social Security, Medicare, W-2, 1099's, background checks for gun purchases, National Park passes, etc. Yeah, I will bet the Federal government knows a lot about Square=Circle.
The SS cards used to actually say "Not to be used for identification purposes".
It's exactly the kind of thing the federal government is not supposed to do.
You need your ID for just about everything besides voting.
Nope. the ONLY time in the past five years I've had to SHOW my driving license was at the emergency room, last month, and that was only beause th idiot insurance people made a hash of my name, and the intake staff could not locate and verify my policy. Showed them my driving license they were able to find and verify it. Haven't tried to fly since well before the covidiocy so didn't need it for that.
now that all the Air Marshals are being used for Border Patrol we need Real ID to feel secure ... and masks when not eating or drinking.
I did get one - but only because it lets me cross by land or sea into Canada without a passport
Is this something Canada requires?
Because I come into the US on a no real ID driver's license (and sometimes and old expired passport) with no issues.
That should be an enhanced driver's license. A number of northern border states have them, but they are not Real IDs. They're actually more than Real IDs.
"marked with a star."
But *we're* the Nazis.
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It's almost as if getting personal identification (that could coincidentally be used for voting) from recalcitrant State actors is hard or something.
eliminate all government IDs
See, it's not that hard to be a libertarian for a libertarian magazine
REAL ID is long overdue, and should have been implemented years ago.
To comply with the REAL ID law, I had to change the names on both my Social Security card and my PA driver's license (so they are the same as the name on my birth certificate).
While these things may seem silly to some (like the author of this article), doing so can help ensure accurate/consistent IDs, eliminate/reduce ID confusion (with the same or similar names), and prevent many fake IDs.
All while ensuring identity theft is made easier.
There's nothing you've done there, Bill, that I need or would make me more secure - so why you want to force it?
To prevent innocent people from being arrested. prohibited from flying or from entering a federal government building, or suspected of being a criminal who has a similar name.
Relying on the name only is not secure. Remember there are other data points that collectively comprise my identity. Date and city if birth, Mother's maiden name, city and state of residence.. come ONNNN.. what is the statistical possibility that even three of those data points would match two different people? Yet NICS system constantly returns false DENY or HOLD because their system does not scan for a match in ALL these parameters.
Red States should be jumping at compliance on this. Make everyone voting (even mail-in) show a Real-ID for voter integrity.
As mentioned earlier, it also gives extra comfort when encountering documentation from other states.
All I've seen the "Real" ID law do is help deport foreigners who aren't engineers, physicists, physicians, chemists, surgeons, mathematicians or wealthy. If along with that law our exportation of violent looter prohibitionism were to encounter repeal, American engineers, physicists, chemists, surgeons and mathematicians might very well pursue happiness elsewhere. These brain drains work both ways.
Crap!
Let that be a lesson to me. My driver's license had to be renewed last month, and given the info at the time, it seemed that this BS was about to actually go into effect, so I knuckled under.
Sorry folks, I let you down.
With both the TSA and Real ID have what amounts to security virtue signaling and not real security. We have given up our rights to a government regime that cares much more about their power than our individual freedoms.
Both the TSA, Real IS and the Patriot Act should be scrapped or at a minimum massively reformed. Power should be removed from the federal government regime to a more local body and the more local the better.
I have better odds of my local mayor listening to me than my governor and even worse odds that our dementia patient of a president would listen (or understand).
"E Pluribus Unum" does not mean that all of the power resides in the one. It does not mean that the many stop to exist. The intent was for the many to cooperate in certain very specific areas.
This has been distorted over time where the federal government regime has gobbled up power through coercive actions. The time has come for the state government regimes wrestle back their power from the federal government regime and at the same time that cities and counties wrestle back their power from their respective state government regime.
Let's require a Real ID to vote!!