Is Florida Giving Up Its Fight Against 'Woke' Disney?
Lawmakers are reportedly planning to undo legislation that would have revoked Disney's special tax and governance status.

Less than eight months after Gov. Ron DeSantis launched a public feud with Disney, Florida's state government is reportedly backing down from its confrontation with the House of Mouse.
State lawmakers are preparing to reverse legislation passed in April that would have stripped Disney of its special tax status and its authority to operate a pseudo-government that covers more than 25,000 acres of Floridian swampland-turned-resort. Instead of undoing Disney's special arrangement, The Financial Times reported Friday that lawmakers are now looking to merely make "a few modifications" to the deal that allows Disney to control the Reedy Creek Improvement District.
State Rep. Randy Fine (R–Palm Bay), the lawmaker who originally drafted the bill to strip Disney's self-rule power, tells the Times that the exit of Bob Chapek as Disney's CEO and the return of former CEO Bob Iger makes it more likely that lawmakers will back down from the culture war that DeSantis picked with one of the state's most iconic brands and largest employers—more than 77,000 people work at the Walt Disney World resort.
In other words, this looks like it was never much more than a pissing match between DeSantis and Chapek, who drew the governor's ire when he sharply criticized Florida's so-called "Don't Say Gay" law that censored discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in public schools. DeSantis signed the bill into law in March.
Florida has hundreds of special tax districts like Reedy Creek, but DeSantis seized on Chapek's criticism and framed the whole thing as a culture war fight against a corporation that had received special privileges from the state. Chapek's criticism of the new law amounted to "provocation, and we're going to fight back," DeSantis said in April as he signed the law undoing Disney's special status.
But most of that was a wild exaggeration. As Reason's Scott Shackford wrote in April, the special tax and governing status granted to Disney in 1967 aren't so much privileges for the corporation as they are gifts to the local governments surrounding the Walt Disney World resort. If the special status were revoked, Orange and Osceola counties would become responsible for providing mandatory public services—including basic infrastructure like water supplies and emergency services like fire departments, all of which Disney currently self-operates and self-funds within Reedy Creek—to the massive resort. It would effectively put local taxpayers on the hook for essential services that Disney used to pay for itself.
"Any contention that DeSantis is eliminating some sort of 'special treatment' for Disney comes with it the perhaps mistaken assumption that the two counties suddenly in charge of all of this infrastructure will somehow make the park better and not worse. In reality, putting Disney parks at the mercy of two different counties with different laws will be a huge mess for everybody involved, and that's the point," Shackford wrote. "It's not about what's fair or what's best for the citizens in the area. It's about punishing political foes and centralizing government power (a very nonconservative approach) to do so."
Friday's report that lawmakers are preparing to back down from those proposals only seems to confirm that conclusion.
The fight between DeSantis (with help from the Republican-controlled Legislature) and Disney wasn't an example of a Republican governor taking a stand against a "woke corporation." It looks to have been a grotesque misuse of state power that forced a private company to change its leadership, with the threats delivered in response to the former CEO's decision to exercise his free speech rights.
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OR....Disney decided to back off and Florida is responding in kind?
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Disney CEO Wants To "Quiet Things Down" After Company Exec Revealed LGBTQ Agenda
https://summit.news/2022/11/30/video-new-disney-ceo-wants-to-quiet-things-down-after-company-exec-previously-revealed-open-lgbtq-agenda/
LGBTVideo: New Disney CEO Wants To "Quiet Things Down” After Company Exec Previously Revealed Open LGBTQ Agenda
"Do I like the company being embroiled in controversy? Of course not”
Published 1 min ago on 30 November, 2022Steve WatsonScreenshot
The new CEO of Disney, Bob Iger, announced Tuesday that he will seek to "quiet things down” at the company following several high profile controversies, most notably the admission of an executive producer under his predecessor declaring that Disney is operating an open LGBT agenda.
Iger was filmed at a town hall meeting with Disney employees, and the footage was posted to social media by Manhattan Institute senior fellow Christopher Rufo.
"Do I like the company being embroiled in controversy? Of course not,” Iger asserted.
"It can be distracting, and it can have a negative impact on the company. And to the extent that I can work to quiet things down, I’m going to do that” Iger vowed.
Iger, who is returning to the company for a second spell as CEO after the unscheduled exit of his appointed successor, Bob Chapek, also noted that he was "sorry to see us [Disney] dragged into that battle” with Florida governor Ron DeSantis following Disney public rebuke of his "Parents Rights in EducationWuhan bill which prevents children as young as kindergarten age being taught about transgender and gay sex issues in schools.
In an interview with Tucker Carlson, DeSantis and the host charged that Disney has a "fixation on the sexuality of children” pointing to recent reports that four employees of the media giant were charged with human trafficking in Florida, with one having allegedly sent sexually explicit texts to an law enforcement agent posing as a teenage child.
During the town hall, Iger further stated that "One of the core values of our storytelling is inclusion, and acceptance, and tolerance. And we can’t lose that, we just can’t lose that.”
He continued, "How we actually change the world for the good must continueï¿ We’re not going to make everybody happy all the time, and we’re not [going to] try to. We’re certainly not going to lessen our core values in order to make everybody happy all the time.”
Igers comments come as the company faces a $100 million loss from a production called "Strange World,” which features an open gay teen romance.
Recall that back in March, leaked video footage revealed Disney executive producer Latoya Raveneau asserting that her team had implemented a "not-at-all-secret gay agenda” that would be "adding queerness” to programmes and films for children.
Disney has indeed been prominently featuring transgender and LGBT characters in productions:
Weird New Disney+ Show 'BaymaxWuhan Features Transgender Tampon Scene
Disney also angered many parents earlier this year by throwing its weight and funding behind gender reassignment procedures, even for kids:
As we noted yesterday, a new Disney Christmas show features a group of children holding up signs that spell out "WE LOVE YOU SATAN,” prompting more backlash.
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Yes, I noticed that too. After starting with the bill’s author submitting a weaker replacement and calling it a DeSantis climbdown, he notes in passing that it happened after Disney changed their management.
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Let’s hope DeSantis signs more woke unfriendly legislation into law.
Ah yes, the conservative calling for more laws.
If it hurts the left, it's automatically good.
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Yeah, the woke contingent at Disney went WAY too far internally and got beat back. Based on the mess with the state and the poor corporate performance that year Iger was asked back; you know that part of the deal was DeSantis backed off killing RCID.
This was well-orchestrated.
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Look, I was critical of DeSantis doing this to begin with, but this article is hilariously off base.
1) DeSantis did not “pick a fight” with Disney. Disney picked a fight with him. It was reluctantly picked, after Disney employees basically extorted their CEO into making “sharp criticism” of the bill.
2) It remains to be seen whether Florida is “Giving up the fight” or actually, you know, “writing the terms of Disney’s surrender.”
Since the Kulture Warz, FL began, the CEO of Disney has been sacked, and Iger, the new (old) CEO, is on record declaring that Disney needs to avoid being so strident in the Kulture Warz. So…looks like they are capitulating.
To paint this as surrender on Florida’s part is pretty dishonest. And that is especially true when this appears to be yet another example of a Government punishing a private corporation for speech.
We now have two examples (big tech, and Disney) of corporations being pressured by the government to limit speech. And for some reason, ENB, Shackford, and Boehm can’t do anything but view it from the exact same fucking lens as the rest of the Twitter/Blue/Red crowd. The only one who has been at least partially consistent has been Sullum- who has rightfully called out that the Twitter and Meta censoring was not about Trump or Conservatives or Kulture Warz, but about government censorship.
This issue transcends Blue/Red bullshit. It is about governments being so big that they can compel speech. Boehm (and Shackford’s) reporting is shallow. It is like a kid watching a chess match and thinking that winning/losing is just about who took the last piece.
>>“writing the terms of Disney’s surrender.”
Iger: "goddam that last guy was an idiot. situation normal now I promise."
And that is especially true when this appears to be yet another example of a Government punishing a private corporation for speech.
Even this is a bit of a generous take and/or letting Disney steal a base. Disney pretty much quintessentially has distorted copyright protection and been openly criticized for it for decades, well before even the Gay Rights movement. I don’t know that continuing to allow the East India Company to operate in The Colonies under such a preferred status with The Crown is a clear-cut win for free speech. Admittedly, Reedy Creek and copyright are two separate issues but, at the same time, Disney and Florida are not.
This argument basically comes down to "You didn't build that."
Because you drive on roads, we should be able to prevent your business from doing X. Because the government gave grants to your university, you owe us your money in taxes. Because you have copyrights protections, we can compel your speech.
A government compelling speech is a government compelling speech. Doing it by threatening sanction (as DeSantis did) or doing it through inducements and threats or removing those inducements (as the Biden Admin is doing with big tech) doesn't matter.
We can stand against overly broad copyright protections and still endorse the first amendment- especially the fact that it ought to protect even speakers we disagree with (as I disagree with Disney).
This argument basically comes down to “You didn’t build that.”
Only if you think Disney didn't actually build anything without government protection, which is rather telling.
Seriously, "Speech occupies the air(? WTF? IDK) provided by the government the way cars occupy the roads provided by the government." argument is a level of retardation I'm not used to from you.
I'm willing to concede that there's a conception of copyright protection that Disney had nothing to do with, but when we're at the point where a parent with no profit motive can't put a depiction of Spiderman on their dead son's tombstone in the UK because *Disney* says "You can't build that!", almost 60 yrs. after the character they didn't create was created, your argument comes across much more like "Fuck you, that's why."
“Only if you think Disney didn’t actually build anything without government protection, which is rather telling.”
No you have this exactly backwards. When Obama said “You didn’t build that” he was wrong. I think people build shit all the time, and sometimes they benefit from government services and other times they benefit despite government services. But either way, their accomplishments are their own. And they do not forfeit their claim on those accomplishments either way. This is a standard tactic of lefties- "How dare these people who got Roads|College Loans|Tax Credits|Etc complain about the government! Their use of those benefits means they have to accept everything the government does!"
“Seriously, “Speech occupies the air(? WTF? IDK) provided by the government the way cars occupy the roads provided by the government.” ”
I never said any of that shit, so maybe it is time to back off your word salads and take a breath. You said this:
“Disney pretty much quintessentially has distorted copyright protection”
You are using that “crime” of using the legal system to their benefit, to somehow give a pass to DeSantis trying to compel their speech through a totally different set of legal inducements. You are saying “Because Disney has copyright protections, it is ok for DeSantis to punish them for a specific piece of speech.”
DeSantis isn’t punishing them for using copyright protections. He has benefited from those (as a tax collector, and benefactor of their tourism) for years. He was very clear: his action was to punish Disney for taking a stand in the Kulture Warz. And you are implying that because Disney gets benefits from the government in one way that you disapprove, they aren’t allowed to take a side in the Kulture Warz against the government.
That is like saying that because you enjoy roads and other services provided by government, you don’t get to complain about their stances on taxes…Just as Obama did with ‘You didn’t build that’.
No you have this exactly backwards.
You're the one asserting that free speech can only exist as enshrined by the government, not me. If you think your construction is backwards, that's on you.
"2) It remains to be seen whether Florida is “Giving up the fight” or actually, you know, “writing the terms of Disney’s surrender.”"
This is the obvious interpretation. To say that Florida is giving up is just a silly interpretation of events.
Disney did something stupid, Florida did something stupid back (with a much bigger hammer) and now Disney has fired the CEO, the new guy has said they won't do it again, and Florida is backing down from using the hammer.
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Right after Disney fired their CEO, rehired Bob Iger, and he came out and said Disney was going to stop with the woke bullshit.
You’re a lying piece of shit Boehm.
It amazes me how many articles Reason has had with Florida and Disney and not a single one of democrats at the federal level threatening Twitter.
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OMG did you guys know DeSantis literally passed a law making it illegal to say "gay" in the state of Florida?
Did you know he was a teacher and some students didn't like him?
Did you know the greatest legal minds of #ItsMuellerTime #Resistance Twitter have analyzed the relevant statues and found he's guilty of human trafficking?
Did you know the upstanding gentlemen at The Lincoln Project have thought really hard about this and arrived at a terrifying conclusion: he might be even worse than Trump?
Or ........ maybe he's just a somewhat normal Republican. And Biden is so pathetic, running for reelection against anyone except Trump might not be a freebie.
Careful there, almost slipped back into character.
The last two sentences are there for a reason. 🙂
You're in a fugue state and don't know which of your personas is real?
If Biden is ‘elected’ again, then elections are meaningless, and more will be required. Self preservation instinct is a wonderful thing.
DeSantis can only win if Trump is around to be the magnet for all the media hate for the entire primary season.
Did you know the upstanding gentlemen at The Lincoln Project have thought really hard about this and arrived at a terrifying conclusion: he might be even worse than Trump?
Pissing match, quid pro quo, what's the difference?
It is resolve squared now, not Lincoln project. Rebrand.
>>this looks like it was never much more than a pissing match
lol Chapek is gone, DeSatan will be president. somebody won the match.
And a clue for the clueless, there Boehm, it's not Disney.
"DeSatan will be president"
I don't even think we can say that yet.
I just think *if* he gets the nomination he'll have a realistic chance of beating Biden (or Harris). Maybe even a very good chance if voters don't like the state of the economy in mid to late 2024. Whereas if Trump is the nominee he's virtually guaranteed to lose worse than he did in 2020.
>> yet
I'm assuming he's first in line. and many other things lol.
Harris will not be the nominee.
"Harris will not be the nominee.
You've clearly never seen Weekend at Bernies.
Bernie could keep his mouth shut.
Pissing off the black female vote by replacing her with...whom?
State of the economy seemed to not matter for 2022. Youre giving dem voters too much credit.
I am not a voter fraud idealist in general. However, every poll taken on BOTH sides, plus demographic changes to voter registration and ideology proven in polls prior to the vote PROVE that there MUST be some huge irregularity in the votes in 2022. The biggest issue is that in the (NATIONALLY SPEAKING) key locations the numbers are much too far from any poll or survey including ideologies of various demographics since 2000.
While statistics does NOT prove a crime, it is indicative of an un-natural event. This means an event that was changed by outside influences in some way.
Conclusion: whether or not the 2022 elections were fraudulent there is justification that there was some kind of influence that is NOT NATURAL and therefore suspicious and possibly repugnant on its face with regard to the elections in 2022.
Then again in some places there was obvious vote manipulation by several means.
I prefer to think of him as DeSanta Claus. As he brings such wonderful gifts and cheer. At least for all the good kids. Not so much for the bad, awful wokie kids. They get coal in their stocking.
Like when he was doling out Boiden cash to his constituents while screaming that the money shouldn't have been printed? Those kinds of gifts? Fuck yourself, "conservative"
So he was supposed to screw Florida tax payers by not cutting them in on their share?
*assuming fair elections
70% didn't like where things were going in 2022. How did the midterms turn out?
Lulz.
DeSantis won this round. Woke Disney has taken a beating over the past year, Chapek got shitcanned, and Iger is now forced to reel it all back in to tolerable levels. Even if Florida backs off, Iger is still going to have serious problems. Stemming the financial hemorrhage is one issue, but once you let the Woke Mob run rampant and destroy everything they touch, good luck getting that back under control.
Disney’s financial predicament is great cover for targeted cuts in their workforce. Specifically the woke troublemakers. Iger needs to bring down the hammer on the wokie trash and show them their place.
I suppose that the author approves of teachers discussing their sexuality with 6 to 8 year olds. Grade school children are among the most susceptible to suggestion of any group. When children are suspected of having been sexually abused, there is a very, very strict protocol for interviewing them designed specifically to avoid any suggestion of what happened.
As for Disney, there should be NO special breaks for any business. The businesses surrounding Disney have been the beneficiaries of cronyism and have no rights in this matter at all. That they obviously bought support from the legislature makes their claims even worse.
There's a good case against DeSantis for trying to eliminate the teaching of the racist theories of Kendi and DeAngelo in colleges but not if it's taught by "doing" i.e. demanding false confessions from white students and forcing a sense of helplessness on the others.
There's a difference between teaching a theory and implementing it in the classroom, however, for the truly "woke", theory and practice are one. This enables the woke to scream censorship for demanding of students behavior punishable by ostracism and failing grades.
“I suppose that the author approves of teachers discussing their sexuality with 6 to 8 year olds.”
Reason’s pretty consistently pro on this topic, yes.
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I am glad to read your comment.
SO many times I have been asked to "confess my whiteness" as well as the undeserved benefits of race. The same universities were rampant with communists and feminists and socialists pedaling their ideologies when I attended.
Then again there are the times that a person not anglo, with less education, less time in the industry, less knowledge of trade and business as well as no management degree or certification and less mental capability have passed me by and been made my supervisor or manager directly over me. All because of QUOTA (I might add to the detriment of my family. and especially my children). QUOTA is nothing but reverse racism and in fact harms the companies themselves directly because they have to have someone not the best doing the job by definition. There have been hundreds of non-anglos that were as educated and had abilities that met or exceeded mine over the years. I hold no grudge against any one of them. I do against society, the government, and the company otherwise. And I should.
WHEN the GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO ASK ONE'S RACE THEN RACISM WILL BEGIN TO END.
I peronsally have NEVER answered that question on any form, because frankly I have NO IDEA what my actual genetic races are. I do not care and no one else should either.
As for Disney, there should be NO special breaks for any business.
The Florida GOP that has controlled state government entirely for over 20 years doesn't think so. It only is when a business gets "woke" and criticizes GOP policies and says that they will stop donating to politicians (meaning the Republicans that control the state government) that they suddenly decide that (those) businesses shouldn't get special breaks.
DeSantis's office had made sure that companies that own theme parks would exempt from their legislation targeting social media companies just the year before all of this came about.
No one should pretend that any of this is about principles for Republicans. Culture wars and owning the libs excites their base and distracts them from all of the ways that they do favors for the big donors at the expense of ordinary citizens.
The fascists narrative continues.
The law affected multiple special districts, not just Disney.
Look it up, it is a public law published on the web.
And the parental rights law said nothing about "gay".
But go ahead Eric, show you can't even do a web search.
(and, just for the record, Iger is no prize; he was/will be a total tool for the Communist Chinese Party)
"Iger is no prize; he was/will be a total tool for the Communist Chinese Party"
But only if they promise him Uighur slaves to keep movie costs down.
The Mexican crime lords will be very upset if Chinese slavers start competing in their market.
Im all for free speech and if Disney CEO wants to take a position as priviate individual fine, but he has no right speak for "Disney" or any of its employees.
OF COURSE he has the right to "speak for Disney". He's their freakin' CEO. What a silly comment you make.
He doesn’t have the right to use Disney Corp., a publicly traded company, as his personal platform for activist crusades. Chapek learned that the hard way.
The Reedy Creek district is something conservatives should *love*. Disney pays for its own water and emergency services, funded by visitors to the park and customers of other Disney products and services. If the counties had to take it over, then everybody in the county would have to pay through property taxes. whether they visit the parks or not.
(As a Libertarian, I would prefer that Disney do it themselves instead of having to use an "Improvement District", but that's the way the government cookie crumbles in Florida.)
The Reedy Creek district is something conservatives should *love*.
Right, and unarmed citizens protesting the government on public roadways and at its heart without rampant violence and massive destruction of property, public or private, is something democracies should love, but we don't live in that reality.
Boehm, just go write for Vox or something. You’re clearly a fake libertarian and a leftist social justice warrior. You adopt the leftist name for the bill and gaslight everyone with the same narrative. That the government is somehow censoring the government schools by preventing them from talking about gender theory with kindergarteners is pretzel logic that only a leftist SJW journalist could believe. It’s appalling and pathetic that such a bill even needs passed. Go away groomer.
I wish this article hadn't jumped to the narrative "Don't Say Gay" without at least referring to the bill's real number or given name, since the bill is really about given parents rights in their children's education
Uh-huh... and I bet you still call the Affordable Care Act "Obamacare".
Those are not really comparable things.
Obama called the PPACA Obamacare before it turned into a debacle.
While it may be true that localities "might" me required to provide infrastructure, on the other hand they would have the RIGHT to even invoke special taxation for such.
The entire idea that a corporation can have its OWN LEGAL SYSTEM, LAW ENFORCEMENT, etc, is absurd.
Cities are in fact CORPORATIONS ONLY and have law enforcement, but WHEN the public, guests, and clients of a corporation are subjected to a non-public voter controlled STATE then it is absurd.
The real issue is that EVERY employee of Disney is allotted special conditions, that one must ask permission of DISNEY in order to sue in actuality. In other words all Disney employees are government employees and exempt from their own actions more or less, just like ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.
Then entire idea is ABSURD.
Hon, your Caps Lock key keeps sticking. You might want to get a new keyboard.
It creates an intolerable conflict of interest for a corporation to exercise such quasi-governmental powers. After an accident, Disney can close the park and foreclose any independent investigation. Instead, it can self-servingly gather evidence on its own terms. Whoever is CEO, Disney should not have that power.
I sent you some money today in your fund-raising drive, but if I ever see another worthless attack on DeSantis like this one, you've seen the last of me. This entire piece is shit squared.
The entire point of a Libertarian publication is to go after the two legacy parties and their elected shills. DeFascist is but one example of a “government uber alles” trend in the R’s that needs to be pointed out and stamped out by we Libertarians.
"...DeFascist..."
TDS-addled shits are SO clever, right?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Well, sure, you could phrase it that way, if you deliberately were trying to obscure the facts that the counties would 1) gain Disney World as part of their tax base, and 2) have the unilateral right to actually decide at what level they'd provide those services.
And I mean, what sort of disingenuous hack claims that anyone imagines removing a corporation's special treatment would somehow make its operations "better and not worse"? The whole reason for the special treatment, which Disney asked for, is to make things easier on Disney. Of course they'd be worse off without the special treatment, that's why they asked for special treatment in the first place!
Disney accepted a valuable special privilege from the State of Florida, and then their total idiot of a CEO gratuitously spat in the state's face rather than tell some too-big-for-their-britches Disney employees to shut their baying yaps. So Florida started the process of taking the special privilege away, And now that the utter moron of a CEO has been defenestrated by the elected representatives of the owners of the company, Florida is potentially willing to let bygones be bygones.
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"Is Florida Giving Up Its Fight Against 'Woke' Disney?"
The market is doing it for them.
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Although it was certainly an abuse of power by DeSantis and the Florida legislature; and Chapek certainly had free-speech rights to criticize legislation in Florida, Chapek perhaps exercised poor judgement in exercising those rights while serving as CEO of a large corporation, getting his company into the pissing match with the government in the first place. Reason usually takes the position that companies should focus on making a profit for their shareholders while staying out of politics unless they need to lobby against legislation directly impacting their operations adversely.
So you don't object to the government using its power to retaliate against speech it doesn't like?
Whether it's a person or a company, you're comfortable with that sort of activity from your government?
Interesting, is this article suggesting special government favors for large companies are a good thing?
I don't like DeSantis using government power for punishment but I don't like the Disney deal either, which politicians got generous donations to give them the special treatment decades ago.
This is a case that 2 wrongs did make a right.
So DeSantis gets to bully Disney for being mean about not liking their child indoctrination policy ? And we're just going to sit here pretend like that is a win ?
A corporation is a creature of the state via its corporate charter. States have no rights and cannot grant rights, neither to citizens nor to corporations. To speak of corporations having rights (to free speech or any other kind) exhibits a deep misunderstanding of the nature of rights themselves.
I keep reading that the communities are ow getting a break because they don’t have to foot the bill for a lot of services. But local communities also forfeit property taxes. If Disney didn’t have to provide all those services itself, property value would go up, increasing the tax base. In the end, everything should come out the same except Disney would lose a lot of autonomy
Is Florida Giving Up Its Fight Against 'Woke' Disney?
I don't know. A more serious question is when will Reason quit supporting the woke corrupt repressive cancel culture and return to being libertarians?