There's No Constitutional Right To Own a Pit Bull, Federal Court Says
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A federal court has upheld an Iowa city's ban on pit bulls and dogs that look like pit bulls. Since 2005, Council Bluffs has banned residents from owning "any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits" of one of those breeds. A group of dog owners sued, arguing that the ban violated their constitutional rights.
The dog owners argued that the ban violates their rights to substantive due process and equal protection and that it isn't rationally related to legitimate government interests. But a federal district court sided with Council Bluffs, and now the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit has as well. The court concluded that the city did have rational reasons for the ban, since the dog owners could "not negate every conceivable basis for the Ordinance."
This conclusion—while arguably sound from a legal standpoint—is still pretty unsatisfying from the standpoint of common sense.
Sure, the authorities have an interest in protecting people from dangerous animals. I don't think many folks would object to a rule banning city dwellers from owning a lion. But pit bulls are hardly lions.
Pit bulls and pit bull mixes are not a universally dangerous dog, as the plaintiffs in this case argued. From the decision:
They presented evidence from canine behavior experts and recent scientific studies about predicting a dog's propensity to bite based on its breed. According to the dog owners, this evidence, viewed most favorably to them, negates every conceivable basis for the Ordinance by establishing: "(1) Pit Bull type dogs are no more or less dangerous than other breeds of dogs; (2) neither breed nor physical characteristics are predictive of a dog's aggressiveness or propensity to bite; and (3) the city's method of identifying dogs as Pit Bulls is inherently unreliable."
As for dangerousness, the dog owners argue that experts in canine genetics and behavior currently acknowledge that pit bulls are no more or less dangerous than similarly sized dogs of other breeds.
The city countered that pit bulls made up a disproportionate amount of dog bites in year leading up to the ban—even though that may be explained by one or a few badly trained pit bulls, and needn't necessarily indict all pit bulls and pit bull mixes.
The city also offered the underwhelming statistic that dog bites were down 25 percent since the ban had been enacted. That still leaves a lot of dog bites by other breeds—and yet the city has not moved to ban other dog breeds.
As to the plaintiffs' claim that the city couldn't judge a dog's breed simply by its looks, the city countered with a study showing visual identification was accurate 15 percent of the time. That's another pretty underwhelming statistic—but the court found it sufficient, writing that "this study affirms that visual identifications can, however imperfectly, identify a dog's breed."
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A federal court has upheld an Iowa city's ban on pit bulls and dogs that look like pit bulls.
First they came for the pit bulls but too late those jaws were already clamped tight.
Now if they would come for yorkies and those obnoxious toy poodles, I'd really appreciate that.
"Pit Bull type dogs are no more or less dangerous than other breeds of dogs"
Pit Bulls make up 6% of the US dog population and account for 64% of all dog-on-human attacks and 80% of all human dog attack fatalities. (91% of all dog-dog fatalities)
So, that's bunk.
Not saying I agree with the ban necessarily, and I think they have a good point about the vague identifying language, but they didn't exactly get started on the right foot with that opening assertion.
I think that the issue that makes the pitbull controversial is that Pitbulls from a temperament standpoint are no more dangerous than any other dog. In fact, it is my opinion (informed by a certain amount of research and experience) that Pitbulls are by and large one of the sweetest tempered dogs you can own.
The issue with Pitbulls is that IF they are aggressive, they are more physically equipped to do serious damage than many other breeds given their jaw construction, musculature and power.
It's probably a lot of the reason. It may also be that there is a disproportionate segment of the pitbull owner population that is poorly suited to responsible dog ownership.
Yes, there are people who get pitbulls because of the 'badass' factor and own them as accessories.
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It may also be that there is a disproportionate segment of the pitbull owner population that is poorly suited to responsible dog ownership.
That's exactly the thing. They're bred to be fighting dogs, hence the name, and it's pretty common for 'badass' types to get pit bulls and abuse the fuck out of them and then not really pay attention to what they do and where they go.
Mastiffs, as an example, are way, way, way more dangerous, but it's a very different type of person who gets a mastiff.
Yes. There’s a reason that owners inclined to train vicious dogs choose Pit Bulls—check out those jaws! But they are, at heart, Terriers and will act like it if not “raised” like that. (Mind you, Terriers love chewing up stuff around the house-with a Pit, prepare for serious gnaw-damage—did I mention the jaws?)
What they teach phone cable technicians is that anything from a teacup Chihuahua to a 6-foot tall English Mastiff has a jaw pressure of 750 pounds and can run abywhere from 23 to 48 Miles an hour. All dogs need restraining when utility workers are workjng in a home or business with pets or utility workers can legally refuse service. I also know of a case of a utility worker refusing service to a home with a loose boa constrictor for a pet.
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with a Pit, prepare for serious gnaw-damage
No joke. Have a budget for chew toys. Big ones.
But there's a reason the drug culture chooses pits. They are easily trained to attack, and deadly when they do it. And almost 100% of the time, when you read about a gentle, loving dog that suddenly kills its owner, it's a pit bull.
Pitbulls are by and large one of the sweetest tempered dogs you can own.
The issue with Pitbulls is that IF they are aggressive, they are more physically equipped to do serious damage
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I’m not in favor of bans, but there’s no doubt that pitbulls are absolutely the most dangerous dog breed out there. Those studies and statistics they brandished before the court were bunk.
The only reason Pitbull owners pick pitbulls is because they’re a dangerous breed. They’re the same kind of people who want to own tigers and lions. They think the animals ferocity lends them in the air of invulnerability too. Otherwise they would have gotten a Samoyed or Golden Retriever.
I’ve played with and spent time with a lot of pit bulls in the past and they’re lovely dogs, but invariably something always goes wrong in their heads and the dog that’s great with kids becomes a sudden killer. Every time.
If Pitbull owners want to be taken seriously, they’ve got to stop lying about the breed, how risky it is, and be honest about the reasons they’re buying them. Firearm owners religiously practice safety measures and treat every gun as loaded. Pitbull owners need to do the same.
I have one friend who really loves her pit bulls, but she had one in particular that just could not be trusted, and he had to go.
Her current pit bull is a lot more even-keeled.
One caveat with Pits: If I ever were to own one I would NEVER get a “rescue”—I don’t trust any Pit Bull’s past owners. I would get a puppy which I ALONE would raise and train.
A friend had one of those and it tried to eat my wife's face. Had to tell him if I ever saw it off leash again it was getting shot.
Had to tell him if I ever saw it off leash again it was getting shot.
Pits should never be outside unleashed. Never.
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If I ever were to own one I would NEVER get a “rescue”
Mine is a ‘rescue,’ and clearly had a pretty terrible first nine months before we got him.
Given the nature of pits, what that means is that he’ll only tolerate the presence of me, my wife, and my daughter. When people come over, he gets crated, and he never goes out without a pinch collar on and without someone near him watching him to make sure he doesn’t get out (or dig a hole, because fuck if I couldn’t rent that dog out as an excavator).
He’s not at all aggressive – he’s the biggest coward you’ll ever meet – but we don’t take chances, because he’s got those jaws.
My neighbor's pittie was a bait dog that was rescued from a dogfighting ring in rural Maryland. She was the sweetest girl you will ever meet. Temperament is a complex thing. Some dogs with a horrible background can be the most stable dogs in the world and some with no challenges can be erratic. You have to know your dog and be cautious, regardless of breed.
If something has a mouth, it can bite. How much damage they do depends on strength, size, and (for want of a better word) tenacity. If you want to see a dog that would wreck someone if they were bigger and stronger, watch a Jack Russell.
The only reason Pitbull owners pick pitbulls is because they’re a dangerous breed.
As a pit bull owner, please allow me to disabuse you of this notion.
But also as a pit bull owner I will confirm your sense that, yes, you need to pay attention to them, because they can hurt people, and they can do it quickly.
My mechanic has a pit bull and he likes the breed so much he even named his garage “Pit Bull Motors”. His pit bull is a delightful and friendly dog, who wanders out of the office area to be stroked and generally made a fuss of. I’m not a dog person, but she is really a very good dog.
Pitbull's are some of the most loving, goofy, friendly dogs you'll ever see and great with your kids, until the day something snaps and they tear out your wife's intestines.
You can raise it from a puppy, with excellent discipline, and take all the proper precautions, but one day it'll go psycho for absolutely no reason and try to kill someone.
It's baked into the breed, no other dog is quite like that. A Rottweiler or a Doberman will let you know for some time that they're going to be trouble. With a Pitbull it's always out of the blue.
You're ass-talking again. You should stop doing that.
“pitbulls are absolutely the most dangerous dog breed out there”
Pit bulls are like any other breed. Raise them with positive reinforcement training practices, touch them all over their bodies when they are puppies or, if they are a rescued dog, during their initial bonding period when you get them, use praise, and never punish them with pain, and you will, in the vast majority of cases, have a sweet, loving dog that feels safe and trusts that hands are good things that make them happy.
Raise them with physical punishment, reinforce aggressive behavior, train them with the stick instead of the carrot, and/or neglect to show them affection and, regarless of breed, you will have a dog that you can’t trust.
The reason pit bulls feature in so many grisly bite incidents is because they were bred for bear- and bull-baiting. Their jawbones are designed to lock and hold on to whatever they bite and their jaw muscles are extremely powerful, so they are very difficult to dislodge once they’ve latched on.
I’ve worked in rescue (labs, not pitties) for a decade. I’ve seen what abuse does to dogs and I’ve seen what kindness, even after years of abuse, can accomplish.
“something always goes wrong in their heads and the dog that’s great with kids becomes a sudden killer. Every time.”
Not only is that hyperbolic, it isn’t even true with the majority of pit bulls. But they have been labeled “dangerous”, so when they bite it is said to be “in their nature” and when a “gentle” breed bites it is said to be an aberration.
“they’ve got to stop lying about the breed”
They aren’t. My neighbor had the sweetest pit bull for almost 15 years, but I don’t have a bias one way or the other. Pit bulls aren’t inherently dangerous or violent dogs just waiting for a chance to strike. They just aren’t.
“Firearm owners religiously practice safety measures”
Lololololololol!!!!! That’s even more hyperbolic than your beliefs about pit bulls. Gun owners are just as likely to be irresponsible as anyone else. No more, no less. Hence the regularity of accidental discharges and accidental deaths.
Good gun owners are as you say. Not all gun owners are good gun owners.
Here’s fucking Shrike to try again today.
“Pit bulls are like any other breed. Raise them with positive reinforcement…blah…blah…Not only is that hyperbolic, it isn’t even true with the majority of pit bulls.”
It’s exactly true about the breed you fucking moron. There are as many Pitbull attacks a by well trained and loved family dogs as there are by abused fight ring animals.
For example: 2 Children Killed, Mother Hospitalized After Family Pit Bulls Attack Them Outside Tennessee Home
And every-fucking-single-time we hear: “I can promise you those children were her world, and if there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids,”
And it’s true because Pitbull’s are the most loving family dogs in the world until that one day that they snap out of the blue. Something no other breed does without plenty of warning.
So your little spiel was bullshit. You know you’re lying, I know you’re lying, we all know that you’re lying. You are who I was talking about when I said this: “they’ve got to stop lying about the breed”
“I’ve worked in rescue for a decade.”
I bet a million dollars you haven’t, Shrike. You probably don’t even own a dog. You’re just trying to troll me for “revenge”.
“Firearm owners religiously practice safety measures” Lololololololol!!!!! That’s even more hyperbolic than your beliefs about pit bulls. Gun owners are just as likely to be irresponsible as anyone else.
If you didn’t speedread you would have realized that I was talking about gunowners as a group, and not individuals. Stupid, illiterate fuck.
You are clueless about dogs and bites. Of course, you are clueless about most things that you spout off about.
You aren't even a partisan hack. You're just a troll who has no knowledge or understanding of most things you try to talk about.
Crawl back to your paleoconservative echo chamber and stop bothering those of us who actually argue with more than anecdotes and extreme rhetoric.
“something always goes wrong in their heads and the dog that’s great with kids becomes a sudden killer. Every time.”
This isn't a one-time hyperbolic, fact-free, extremist proclamation from you. This is how you post all the time. No one takes someone who posts like you do seriously.
"I bet a million dollars you haven’t, Shrike. You probably don’t even own a dog. You’re just trying to troll me for “revenge”."
You lose. Go to https://brooklinelabrescue.org. We are an all-volunteer rescue that places labs and lab mixes. We've been doing it for over two decades, although I've only been with them for nine.
And why would I need "revenge"? You are a pointless and irrelevant person. I don't even bother getting "revenge" on serious people who try to screw me over. A yapping little nothing like you who gets enraged over what people say on the internet? Please.
"gunowners as a group"
Yes. Those people. As a group they are not conscientious and fanatical safety fiends. They are like any other group. They have as many irresponsible, arrogant, fuck-the-rules types as any other organization.
Claiming that if you are a gun owner it says something about your conscientiousness, reliability, and responsibility is prima facia idiocy that, on closer inspection, proves to be just another stupid thing you believe. There are a lot of them.
Amazing how the world keeps making it easy to prove that boxes of rocks use the phrase “dumb as Mother’s Lament” to mean irredeemably ignorant.
These are your words and your example of “proof”, with a simple substitution from the news. It speaks volumes:
“It’s exactly true about [gun owners] you fucking moron.”
“For example: [ https://nypost.com/2022/11/22/good-samaritans-restrain-gunman-who-opened-fire-in-florida-bar/ ]”
I’m not sure if you believe that gunowners who are NRA members are extra-double-perfect gun safety fanatics, but either way, do you see how using anecdotes as evidence is what stupid people do?
This guy doesn’t indict all gun owners or all NRA members. Pit bulls that bite don’t indict all pit bulls. Can you grasp this (rather simple) concept yet?
The plaintiffs should have challenged the ban under the 2nd Amendment. I doubt the state can produce examples of historical bans on dog breeds to satisfy the Bruen standard.
Use your Venn diagrams. Factor in the percentage of criminal dog owners that own pit bulls. In coming up with the statistics, if you remove the "bad owners" from the equation (gang members, drug dealers, those that raise them to fight) I think you will see that the dog isn't the issue; its the owner. Same argument as guns. It is bad gun owners that cause the problems for the responsible gun owners.
the dog isn’t the issue; its the owner
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+1
Although there are plenty of insecure suburban fathers who beat their dogs and create a dangerous animal. Trust me, I've been involved in enough removals to have seen it all.
Dogs. Because people suck.
If there were, in fact, a specific type of gun that simultaneously made up only 6% of all firearms owned in the US, but was used in 64% of all illegal shootings and 80% of all gun homicides, I'd be okay with bans on that specific type of gun.
It is of course obvious that the gun itself is not responsible for its misuse, but the fact that it was 28:1 more likely to be used to hurt people than the typical gun, and 63:1 more likely to be used to murder than the typical gun, would be an indicator that the gun's particular characteristics especially promote criminal misuse.
Sure, maybe the ban won't have any benefit. Maybe the entire effect is that criminals are more attracted to that specific model of firearm for social-psychological reasons, and that they'll switch to a less-attractive firearm and use it criminally just as often. But that'd be a pretty low probability.
And when we swap back to the domain of dogs, well, the thing with the gun is we know it didn't have any volitional control over when it fired. People can claim pit bulls do not have anything in their breed temperament that makes them more prone to attack than the average dog, but that's a lot harder to prove than it is to prove a gun didn't shoot itself.
I mean, if pit bulls were just more likely to become violent as a result of neglect than other dog breeds, sure, you could point out the root cause is the neglect. But it'd still be sensible to assign some responsibility to the breed in that case, just as you'd note that a building was made of particularly flammable materials rather than stop at pointing out the root cause of a particular fire was an electrical fault.
And, well, how would you go about demonstrating that pit bulls are not more likely to become violent due to neglect? A big scientific study where various breeds of dog are deliberately neglected? At some point, when you can't prove/disprove causation, the sensible thing is to accept particularly large correlations as a "good enough" basis for a decision. Thirty times more likely to injure a human and sixty times more likely to kill one than other dog breeds are particularly large numbers.
If there were, in fact, a specific type of gun that simultaneously made up only 6% of all firearms owned in the US, but was used in 64% of all illegal shootings and 80% of all gun homicides, I’d be okay with bans on that specific type of gun.
I think the better analogy would be if there were a specific type of gun that misfires more commonly. There have been societies around for decades dedicated to the extermination of Dalmatians, for example, because Dalmatians at this point are all so inbred that they're typically unpredictable and belligerent and just generally a problem, but people think they're cute.
I don't think bans in general work, though, especially with the type of person that you might describe as 'the typical problem pit bull owner.'
My problem with that "64% of all dog-on-human attacks" statistic is that no one can accurately identify pit bulls. I learned that when my daughter's chocolate Labrador growled at an intruder and he claimed it was a pit bull - never mind the long narrow snout, it's a color sometimes found in pit bulls (like more than half of all dogs) and it's territorial like most dogs, so he thought it was a pittie.
So what's really going on is that when a bites and does real damage, _then_ people look for a resemblance to a pittie . What this statistic really says is that most dog bites are from dogs that bite.
Labs are actually pretty aggressive too. My vet was terrified of one of mine, even though she was as sweet as could be to me and loved cats
Dog breeds exist for a reason. They were bred specifically for traits and behavior.
Pit bulls were bred to fight. They might be sweet if raised to be sweet, but they still have the bred in instincts.
Compare them to a Newfoundland. They were bred to rescue drowning people. Pretend to drown near one and it will try to rescue you, even if it's untrained. It might not understand how, but it will at least try. And conversely, they are about the least aggressive dogs on the planet. They don't even understand the concept of being aggressive.
It's amazing how much behavior is actually genetic.
Had a Newfie mix. Amazing dog.
Pit bulls were bred to grab hold to something (usually a bear or a bull) and not let go.
German Shepards are guard dogs. They are highly territorial and agressive defenders of their home and people. Dobermans, too. Rottweilers were bred to herd cows and protect them against predators. All three are more dangerous, by temperament and breeding, than pit bulls. Belgian Malinois make Shepherds look docile. Akitas, Chiws, King Corsos ... the list goes on.
There are a lot more dogs that are bred to be a lot more aggressive than pit bulls. The bite strength, latching, and jaw power of pitties means that when they bite, they do a lot of damage. But there are a lot of aggressive breeds.
My family has always had Australian Shepherds as our family pets - if you are unfamiliar, they are basically border collies without a tail.
Anyway, as a kid, growing up in the SE Missouri Ozark woodlands, we would go on hikes as a family and take the dog along with us. The dog would run ahead of us on the trail, a good 20 yards or so, and then run back behind us, another 20 yards. Rinse, repeat, the entire hike. She probably did about 4x-5x the total distance her humans traveled, every hike.
She was keeping us grouped and looking out for danger.
She was herding.
Yup. Aussies and Border Collies are amazing. They can get frustrated when their people aren't all in the same room, though. Their herding instinct is powerful. And their stamina is mind-boggling.
Back in the day I was active in my HOA for the condo where I live and on the pet committee and spent a lot of time researching not just pit bulls but other dogs as well. One of the interesting things I found was that in terms of insurance it is common for companies to not just decline coverage for pit bulls in particular but for what I will call large dogs defined as weighing more than seventy pounds (or some other weight limit some going as low as thirty pounds).
My Dad always had dogs but always with the caveat that anyone who owned a dog should also have a fenced in dog run. To me this is the key to any type of dog ownership. Maybe not a fenced in dog run but certainly adequate space and facilities to keep the dog in. Another consideration is what I will call training of dogs. Barking or whining dogs can be a legitimate annoyance and almost always are the result of inadequate training, same goes for other actions by dogs that annoy others.
As an interesting side light my brother who owns a cattle ranch has owned several Leopard Dogs (AKA Catahoulas) which is my personal favorite as a choice of breed (with a close second being Weimaraners. In WWII the German military chose Weimaraners over German Shepards for military use which says a lot. Weimaraners were developed to hunt bears and not only are large strong dogs but were trained by the German military to not bark but attack by by putting their paws on a human's chest and rip out their throat. The down side of Weimaraners is they can develop mental issues something Leopard Dogs do not suffer from.) I was sitting in a Lazyboy watching a FSU/UF football game at my brother's house with two Leopard Dogs in the room. Leopard Dogs do require attention and exercise and Pancho, one of the Leopard Dogs, went to the front door, got the leash in his mouth, and came to where I was sitting and dropped it over my arm and stuck his nose under my elbow to let me know he expected me to take him outside for a walk. Point is owning a dog (pitbull or otherwise) is not a do it and forget it deal, it requires a real effort on the owners part.
Last time I bought home insurance, they had an upcharge for pit bulls and Rottweilers, but not Dobermans.
Yorkies are cool. They're ratters.
The dog days are going vet. It gives one paws for thought.
Where in the Constitution does it say the government can determine what anyone may own? Wasn't property rights the cornerstone of our Constitutional Republic? I've been bitten by a pit bull, but I still wouldn't ban them. Prosecute dangerous owners, not the doggo's.
I laugh every time I hear Pit Bull defenders claim that the breed is no more dangerous than any other. Pit Bulls attacking and maiming neighbors or even the owner's children are in the news constantly. Those same people claim crime is down and we're not in a recession.
There's a whole lot in the news that isn't true. Since 85% of "pit bull" identifications are wrong, how did that reporter know it was a pit bull?
Since 85% of “pit bull” identifications are wrong, how did that reporter know it was a pit bull?
The AR-15 of dogs.
The question is what is a pit bull? There is no breed called pit bull.
Pit bull is a term used in the United States for a type of dog descended from bulldogs and terriers, while in other countries such as the United Kingdom the term is used as an abbreviation of the American Pit Bull Terrier breed.[1][2][3] The term was first used in 1927.[3] Within the United States the pit bull is usually considered a heterogeneous grouping that includes the breeds American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Bully, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and occasionally the American Bulldog, along with any crossbred dog that shares certain physical characteristics with these breeds. In other countries including Britain, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier is not considered a pit bull.[1][4][5] Most pit bull-type dogs descend from the British Bull and terrier, a 19th-century dog-fighting type developed from crosses between the Old English Bulldog and the Old English Terrier.[6][7][8]
So your beloved pet, even a mutt, could be banned because someone doesn't like the way it looks. Joe Biden's America!
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So long as the dog only bytes the owner 🙂
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Pretty sure there would still be more than one publisher left.
Whoosh! (Again)
It's purposeful ignorance. He's playing games.
Two behemoths and a bunch of crumb-catchers is not a competitive market.
Look at phones. Obviously the best thing that ever happened to consumers was the breakup of AT&T, which allowed (among other things) for cell phone to compete with the network of pay phones from AT&T. The best thing that ever happened to cell phone customers was the denial of the merger between T-Mobile and Sprint. You like your cheap unlimited data plan? That was a direct result of T-Mobile needing to compete to win instead of just gobbling up enough other carriers to match Verizon and AT&T in size.
Capitalism works when markets are competitive, but without anti-trust oversight it can lead to monopolies.
The book publishing industry currently has “The Big Five”. If these two merged it would still be “The Big Four”.
That depends on the genre, of course. Academic, nonfiction, literary fiction, pulp fiction, etc. If you just lump together the total business of each publisher, you aren't really analyzing competitiveness, you're analyzing size.
Sure. That is so. I never claimed to be looking at it from any angle other than publisher size.
But in anti-trust issues, competitiveness is the important factor.
If you have five publishers, each with a monopoly in their particular market, you have no competition. If you have five publishers, each of which has a competitive footprint in each market, you have robust competition.
Anti-trust tries to eliminate the former and sees the latter as the gold standard.
So yes, it is a big deal if the big 5 becomes the big 4.
The usual suspects are trying to pin the Q nightclub shooting on their favorite targets.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-springs-mayor-lgbtq-nightclub-mass-shooting-hate-crime-investigation-ongoing
Yet...
Aldrich had previously been arrested in June 2021 for making multiple bomb threats and refusing to surrender to police.
Police received reports from Aldrich's mother on June 18, 2021, stating that Aldrich was "threatening to cause harm to her with a homemade bomb, multiple weapons, and ammunition," according to the El Paso Sheriff's Department.
Yeah, I know the ususal suspects will make their usual screams. Over/Under on them actually lucking out into this one actually being some sort of MAGA maniac? Or will it just be the usual deranged lefty?
I assumed that because we didn't get insta-disclosure of his motives, especially with known priors, he was Muslim, gay, FBI agent, or some combination of the three.
A gay Muslim FBI agent?
Better than the rainbow colored lizard people.
Given that so far the best I've seen the left publish is that his grandfather is a Republican, that tells me the shooter is a lefty.
It's Colorado Springs. Everyone's grandfather is a Republican there.
Wait, the Q Nightclub?!?!?!?
Are we sure it was a gay nightclub and not a pedophile sex parlor?
Do they serve pizza?
Maybe it's a Qanon night club. You could tell from the bread crumbs scattered around.
Also every night concludes with "The Storm," where the sprinklers come on and the DJ plays The Weather Girls song "It's Raining Men." 🙂
https://youtu.be/l5aZJBLAu1E
It would be fitting in with the whole "The lady doth protest too much, methinks" trope as well. 🙂
'Course, some people here have been taking notes from Misek and saying that Qanon doesn't exist, so the Sisyphean stone keeps gathering no moss.
Wait, Herr Misek weighed in on QAnon? I guess I did Nazi that post!
What I was meaning to say is that those who deny Qanon are emulating Misek in his brazen irrationality of denying The Holocaust.
How Misek would stand on Qanon is an open question. Since Qanon does use rhetoric and tropes from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, I would imagine Misek would love Qanon. But, of course, if he doesn't like Qanon, Misek would naturally say they are a Jewish-ran front.
Misek does claim that Nazis and Jews worked together, so who knows? He can follow "bread crumbs" off a cliff for all I care. 🙂
“Wait, the Q Nightclub?!?!?!?”
More on that angle Anon…
Damn, this roundup has been a gold mine for you. I don't even like puns and I've chuckled at a few (like this one).
You're on fire. Probably a top 3 performance since I came here, with a legitimate claim to the top spot.
Utkonos is The Pun-Master and one of the reasons I still hang around! The H & R Comments section would turn into multiple sissy slap-fights without his comic relief!
They didn't learn from the Pulse Nightclub shooting. In fact they still tell that false narrative.
They didn’t learn from the Pulse Nightclub shooting. I
It's more like you didn't learn from the Pulse shooting. They learned that their media control can ensure the public retains its belief in the initial accusations that their enemies on the right are guilty even if this is factually false. What do think they failed to learn?
Good point. They fully expect their false narratives to become fact. Which is one of the reasons they are so concerned about Twitter.
That the group really responsible for the Pulse shooting (Muslims) really are a danger to society.
So it was both. A hate crime by Muslims. A banana peel floor polish and a poisonous dessert topping. Two bad tastes that taste worse together.
Awesome line from The Daily Mail:
I can't tell which is funnier, that some reporter decided to go to print with that without permission, or that he did. "OK, just leave out the part where I was crying into a puddle of my own urine."
Jethuth Chrith!
You brute!
Hmm? 😉
"prophylactically muzzle professors from expressing certain viewpoints."
Meanwhile, professors and administrators will continue to do exactly that to students..
Muzzle them with prophylactics!
I just condom such violent acts.
Cum for the lynx, stay for the puns.
Look. I get ENB is all sex all the time, but don't think she has linked to bestiality prior.
So does ENB. They really rubber the wrong way.
Five people were killed and at least 18 others wounded in a shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs.
I blame my current cultural enemy.
Breaking news is that the shooter threatened his own mother with a bomb last year.
And……
Apparently that didn't prevent him from legally buying the guns he used in the shooting. Those standards should probably be examined, since if threatening to blow your mother up with a bomb doesn't raise a red flag, I don't know what would.
Gang of Four most hurt.
https://nypost.com/2022/11/20/kevin-mccarthy-said-he-would-boot-several-dems-from-committees-as-speaker/
The top Republican in the House of Representatives has vowed to keep several Democratic lawmakers off of congressional committees if he is elevated to speaker by his caucus.
Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures” the bans would apply to Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), Adam Schiff (D-CA) and Eric Swalwell (D-CA).
Entertainment! came out over 40 years ago and is still a banger track after track.
Well, except for all the commie agit-prop.
IMHO Songs of the Free was their masterpiece, except for all the commie agit-prop.
I haven't listened to Songs of the Free in years, but I've listened to Entertainment! plenty of times. I'll have to pull SotF off the shelf and give it a spin.
Listening to SotF again, I wouldn't say it's their best, but a strong case to be made for it being their most underrated.
One for banging a Chinese spy, one for falsely leaking dossier information as confirmed by the IC, one for being antisemitic.
Unsafe democracy!
The government butt fucking people without condoms?
Don't they usually?
"The government butt fucking people without condoms?"
The real question is was it without lube?
Earlier this year he said he kick Waters off of the finance committee. Conspicuously missing from the new list.
Anti-abortion groups are suing to overturn the Food and Drug Administration's approval of abortion-inducing drugs.
Repeat.
...a federal court has blocked Ron DeSantis' "Stop WOKE Act," which the court says would "prophylactically muzzle professors from expressing certain viewpoints."
Bareback them minds!
Raw dog opinionating will doubtless occur.
"There's No Constitutional Right To Own a Pit Bull, Federal Court Says"
I'm sure it's in there. Check again in the PENUMBRAS FORMED BY EMANATIONS.
A super precedent.
Any state lines crossed?
Since the prevailing winds blow from the west, the air the dog breathes was in Nebraska the day before, so interstate commerce applies.
No, check the Ninth and Fourteenth Amendments. They say all that needs to be said.
Considering that the city's error rate in identifying pit bulls is 85%, this law should be void for vagueness.
That probably beats counting ballots.
...Ron Bailey reports from the 2022 United Nations Climate Change conference.
Disclosure: He didn't get there on bicycle.
https://twitter.com/Aristos_Return/status/1582832793784299520?t=XEVUAFEB9rPOIglDEEMUOg&s=19
What is special about Twitter is not the platform itself or the business model. The business model is deeply unprofitable. Twitter represents a form of soft power that has almost no price in a civilization that depends heavily on narrative control.
People often wonder why Twitter has so much smaller of a user base than Facebook, Instagram, etc, and yet the appearance is very much that of Twitter being upstream of all other sources. *Who* uses Twitter is what makes it special. Every major figure of cultural responsibility.
When Twitter went live every media outlet and every agent of every celeb pressured them to make one. I've seen journalists say this themselves that it was demanded.
Why?
Because Twitter was designed as one big public-private cooperative "Inception Machine".
If important people are here and highly active, that means you have access to them to a degree. You do, I do, but more importantly, *bots do*.
Once hooked up to the dopamine drip, you can control the supply with fake engagement to trigger pavlovian feelings and responses.
Powerful groups of people have come to the conclusion long ago that rather than spend resources convincing people something is true or viable, they have decided to surround them with rhetoric and gaslight them until they've convinced themselves.
This was always a thing, but kicked into overdrive in 2015.
This is part of the reason for Musks fight regarding the number of bots on the platform. Because it both defrauds Twitters advertisers with fake engagement numbers and is key to gaslighting power.
Imagine you're an attention hungry journo, and your work is validated by how much the public reads and engages with it. Every anti-Trump or anti-Racism focused article goes bonkers, and articles about anything else flatline.
What do you choose to write about? Trump/Racism.
This is also why when you look at the average journalist or think tanker, they can have hundreds of thousands of followers and get absolutely ratio'd by 10k frog accounts. Because our followers are actually *human*.
Journo countersignals regime? They bleed bots/engagement.
That's why these people get more and more insane, as they attempt to read the tea leaves of what gets them a lick of the ice cream cone. It causes them to get more extreme and inane.
"Why didn't I get hundreds of likes with my hot take?!"
These followers provide fake consensus
This feels to me like a government sponsored public/private partnership where @jack was never allowed to be fully in charge after a certain point. It also feels like the ultimate brainchild of @CassSunstein
"Nudge Theory".
Nudge Theory is essentially inception. It's creating a choice architecture that incentivizes doing what those implementing it want. At it's core, it's social pavlovian conditioning without consent.
This is why you see nonsensical articles like "Why the pro-life movement is creating a diaper shortage" or "How eating meat is racist."
It's all just Journos trying desperately to capture propaganda arbitrage in order to look important enough to keep paying.
Just look at the average journo at a major publication. They'll have 300k followers, most of their threads that aren't "Current Thing" focused will get piss poor engagement, and when they tap what is "desirable" content they shoot up into tens or hundreds of thousands in likes.
This makes Twitter a powerful tool for the ruling class, because in lieu of needing to onboard or brief assets to contribute to their narrative enforcement, they can simply perform inception. This is cheaper and more secure, and a measure of answer to "How many are involved?"
And if you incept every journo at every major publication to be just another dopamine addicted rat in a skinner box, then you have your answer to how these narratives can turn on a dime without these people being read into any of it. The panopticon catches those that resist.
In hacker terminology, these high society elites *and* the midwits who work for them, have effectively been "owned" and don't even know it. Psychologically hacked and cracked. This has been going on for literally half a decade at this point, if not longer.
has discussed this from the frame of "Psychosecurity" as a measure of how easy you are to incept, and what sort of liability that poses to your organization, because inception doesn't just work from one source.
But in addition to this method of manufacturing consensus among the powerful to push downstream, it obviously has its own enforcement entities that walk around scything the tallest flowers on the parts of twitter that are dissidents. But it's a game of whack a mole.
The double edged sword of all the important levers being on twitter is that *we* can ratio them too, and slap their psychosecurity around from this platform...
Ironically, social media is probably worse for society than rampant legal drug use would be.
No, this is not a suggestion to appoint a "Social MEdia Czar" or start a "War on Social MEdia", I'm just saying, they're really good at that dopamine hit trick. Just like the rat hitting the bar for more cocaine.
(Those "MEdias" were originally just a coincidental pair of typos, but I think I actually kinda like the meta aspect of it, since so much "Social" media ends up being about the person using it. So I left them. 😀 )
Like anything, it's a double edged sword.
On the one hand it drives/reinforces all sorts of psychosis and bigotry (which we now call "woke"), but on the other hand it allows truth through filters.
Think of the situation last week with Poland getting struck by off target Ukrainian missiles. It was initially reported as a Russian attack on a NATO member. NAFOs were out in full frothing fury. But fortunately a witness to the wreckage snapped photos of the debris and immediately uploaded them to the internet. Those photos were shared and showed Ukrainian equipment, taking all the wind out of the warmongers' sails.
For all the bullshit it facilitates, can you imagine this media with an even greater stranglehold on information dissemination?
Snow clickbait for those of you living down South.
https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2022/11/20/1137579787/buffalo-western-new-york-snow-photos
Ew. Driving in New England in a tractor trailer after 30 years of living in New Mexico was probably one of the more continuously nerve wracking things I've ever done for days on end...
Thats a lot of blow. Wait. What is snow again?
Dog looks pretty happy though. "Finally I'm in an environment where this fucking fur coat makes sense!"
The "This is fine." meme we need, but not the "This is fine." meme we deserve.
Up here, we call that "Tuesday".
From what I've heard, 6' of snow out west would be like 2' in the east because the moisture content is much higher.
I might have missed it.
Did NPR blame this snow-job on Ultra-MAGA-White-Supremacists"? If not, why not? It is, after all, a blanket of whiteness upon the Earth. NPR could do a whole series on "The Problem of Whiteness, see, I told you so"...
Might as well have, since Biden just pledged billions more for "climate reparations"
Just send the cannibals some snow balls.
Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes was sentenced to 11 years and 3 months in prison.
Too early to have claimed her product prevented COVID and had then gotten a free pass and billions of taxdollar revenue.
ha!
Or for Trump et al to claim that her product cured Covid and MSM were covering it up.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3744157-arizonas-ag-wades-into-post-election-tension-in-maricopa-county/
The Arizona Attorney General Office’s Elections Integrity Unit has received “hundreds of complaints” about the state’s election administration since Election Day, Brnovich said in a four-page letter to the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office on Saturday.
Election deniers.
A poll of election observers said 84% didn't believe they had a fair or clean election. 84% that's from both parties.
And now it has come out election officials dealing with the printer delays were telling voters to go to a different site, spoil their ballots, but not marking them as spoiled so votes at second sites were rejected as they had already voted. No count on how many people this affected.
But only "those" people.
Imagine people complaining that an urban county is spending a week longer counting votes than in rural counties in South Dakota.
Problem being 'an urban county' not all urban counties.
It is quite puzzling why the longer they take the more Democratic they go. Its due time to repeal mail-in voting and mystery votes.
What's up with the count in Alaska? Have they even finished round one yet?
Democrats are still laughing (and scheming) about how one of theirs won (and might win again) in a state that is 80% Republican.
"President Joe Biden is now 80 years old."
Parody is obsolete: Exhibit #209
President Biden turns 80 on Sunday, and would be 86 at the end of a second term. The New York Times spoke to 10 experts in aging about what the next six years might look like for a person of that age. They agreed that Biden has a lot going in his favor.
Didn't see the point in spamming #BidenIsAsSharpAsEver for another 2 to 6 years when NYT runs stuff like that.
Parody is obsolete: Exhibit #163
For @elonmusk to allow Donald Trump back on Twitter, ostensibly after a brief poll, shows he is not remotely serious about safeguarding the platform from hate, harassment and misinformation.
More liberal whining about Musk's Twitter purchase, which even perpetually hysterical OBL didn't care about.
#PrivateCompany
If they don’t like Twitter, they should move over to Truth Social.
The irony being that trump said he won't start using Twitter again and his last dozen posts were him telling j6 protestors to go home including a video.
Maybe they can get some soy-infused blogger to flop around trying to do Joe Biden’s daily workout routine like they did with RBG. That should instill confidence in Biden's health.
3 lb weights = healthy.
Moar naps!
...Biden has a lot going in his favor.
Is he going to receive total consciousness on his deathbed?
He has that going for him.
Wait, is there a pool and a pond at the Whitehouse?
They have both, a pool and a pond. A pond would be good for you.
... which is nice.
The Kids Online Safety Act would amp up online surveillance while doing little to actually protect kids...
Um, they couldn't call it that if it didn't save kids.
Yes they can. Most Congressional bills actually do the opposite of what their short title says.
I see, your sarcasm detector was in the "off" position.
Maybe THIS one fights inflation?
And Whips It Now! 🙂
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1594701364969590785?t=6YeXf4-D3kImWF_PVxIjlw&s=19
Two years after anyone with a functional brain realized the Hunter Biden laptop was 100% real @CBSNews has finally gotten around to reporting the Hunter Biden laptop is 100% real.
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Now they'll report "it's old news" and not worth digging up again.
Seriously!?!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63699786
New Zealand's Supreme Court has ruled that the country's current voting age of 18 is discriminatory, meaning parliament must discuss whether it should be lowered.
The case was brought by campaign group Make It 16, which wants the voting age reduced to include 16 and 17 year olds.
And the kicker,
The group argued that young people should be able to vote on matters affecting them, such as climate change.
Ok, as long as they're that mature, they'll be opening them up to get credit cards and act in porn too, right?
And guns?
Hence why indoctrination young minds is so important to the left.
And churches. Indoctrination of the young was perfected by religion long ago.
Exposure to real-world experience is devastating to leftist ideology. There's a reason it tends to flourish in insular, solipsistic, hothouse environments (academia, bureaucracies, suburban enclaves, the entertainment industry) and not among people who confront actual (not theoretical) problems.
And who are these mythical "people who confront actual (not theoretical) problems? FBI agents? White collar businesspeople? College educated people? Because if I've learned anything from these comments, it's that all of those people are woke leftists.
I agree that voting age standards are discriminatory. I prefer letting all ages vote, as long as $1 tax paid earns 1 vote to cast.
And people who "pay" net-negative income tax, their $1/vote is redistributed as dividends to the people who did pay taxes.
They should be allowed to vote if they can produce their last paycheck at the polling station.
18 is discriminatory but 16 is not.
Just ask Traci Lords.
Should be raised to 30.
Or, at least 25. Brain development stops at 25, so seems reasonable. Trust the science?
30 seems like about the right spot. If one is ever going to grow up, it will probably start to happen by then.
Or maybe have voting age vary by office and be the same as the required minimum age for the office.
Back in the day the concept of taxation without representation gained popularity but today the concept of representation without taxation seems to be headed in the same direction.
Heck, let them vote as soon as they’re old enough to read the ballot. That’s the key, wee one!
Zero Covid = Zero Brains
https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-health-china-beijing-covid-91990494741e8c5e75da7d9ce22addb1
The southern Chinese metropolis of Guangzhou locked down its largest district Monday as it tries to tamp down a major COVID-19 outbreak, suspending public transit and requiring residents to present a negative test if they want to leave their homes.
This time for sure it will work!
If you want to know what is going to be in short supply soon, figure out what industry that province serves. They are going to miss their delivery dayes by at least a month.
… But the point might be mute:
Fucking “editors”.
But the point might be mute
Even Joey Tribianni knows it's the point is moo. Like a cow's opinion, who cares?
Or Moo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bo54wE_rJU
In the Zen koan, it's mu.
Omega Mus?
"THERE ARE NO COWS MOOING, DAMNIT!" 😉
The Omega Man--Trailer
https://youtu.be/NUkU18MrBzU
Moo shcmoo, these Branch Covidians are milking this for all it’s worth. Udderly ridiculous!
You mean Branch COW-vidians. 😉
Grammar is raciss! Or is it lacist?
Filthy mutants.
https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/1594434630173700097?t=5IJ27GoLHneZbe2jliUP9A&s=19
Climate fanatics are now attacking art unprotected by plexiglass. This is what happens when governments refuse to prosecute criminal conspiracies. The elites who demanded the freezing of Canadian trucker bank accounts today decry basic law enforcement.
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Are there no art lovers willing to or capable of kicking their asses in the spot?
The friendly DAs charge then for assault abd let the protestors go.
See the example in Washington where a dozen antifa attacked a conservative reporter so he pulled a gun to defend himself and only he was charged.
Gun down your attackers and demand a jury trial. Less antifa trash in the world, and good chance of acquittal.
See the example in Washington where a dozen antifa attacked a conservative reporter so he pulled a gun to defend himself and only he was charged.
If you are referring to Michael Strickland, it happened in Portland, OR. He was convicted and sentenced for defending himself. His case has actually been appealed to the SCOTUS.
Yes, "antifa". Which group was it, again? The antifa one that has the antifa people doing antifa things?
Hey, whatever the art vandals do when they are not protesting must be way more important that what truckers do.
You can't remove that! It's a load-bearing moron with their hand glued to something!
I'm going to write down "load-bearing moron" for future use. Thank you.
In their downtime The Vandals are Ladykillers! (Uh huh Uh huh Uh huh)
Wanna protect your valuable fancy-schmancy art collection? Hire some bikers to guard it. I guarantee the climate loonies will only try to deface it once.
They’d just claim they’d been framed
Climate fanatics are now attacking art unprotected by plexiglass.
Well, Warhol. So "art."
Damn. That was cold as canned tomato soup.
And you aren't wrong.
The progressives don't like being fact checked.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surge-twitter-fact-checks-progressive-figures-praise-tech-watchdogs
Twitter users have been wondering whether a surge in new fact-checks of progressive figures is part of a new egalitarian business model for Elon Musk’s social media site, which has previously been slammed for targeting conservative accounts before going private.
Many on the political left and in the media expressed strong displeasure at the idea of Elon Musk taking control of Twitter. But one apparent change noted by many since it became official on Oct. 26 is an uptick in fact checks of liberal politicians like Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. Additionally, false claims about Republicans, such as one implying racism against Virginia’s Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin, have also been debunked.
Related...
https://www.yahoo.com/video/democrats-trust-favorability-twitter-plummets-194000336.html
Twitter’s net favorability among Democrats in 2022 dipped from net plus 20.4 percentage points in January to -3.2 in November, with the vast majority of those declines occurring after Musk took over in October. Net trust, meanwhile among Democrats shot down 29.3 points during the same time. Graphs illustrating both the measurements, which generally trended down most of the year save some brief recoveries, suddenly resembled the world’s steepest ski slope come October.
Here's the world's smallest violin for your troubles there, progtards.
"Facts" are part of the Cis Het White Male Patriarchy. They may be safely disregarded as needed.
Wrong. Facts are lived experiences and feelings in opposition to the oppressor fascist capitalist class. Only MAGA types and Fox News disregard facts.
brought to you by the "men can get pregnant" crowd
The only Safe Space Zone s in Virginia where they have fair facts.
"But the point might be mute"
Okay, that might be funny, but I think the correct word is "moot".
Be quiet
Nothing about rig counts here.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/21/goldman-sachs-cuts-oil-forecast-to-100-per-barrel.html
Goldman Sachs lowered its oil price forecast by $10 to $100 per barrel for the fourth quarter of 2022, citing rising Covid concerns in China and lack of clarity over the Group of Seven nations’ plan to cap Russian oil prices.
"The city countered that pit bulls made up a disproportionate amount of dog bites in year leading up to the ban..."
Which isn't surprising when "pit bull" is actually three different kinds of dog. If each of the "pit bull" breeds bites exactly as often as German Shepherds (which were the evil satanic dogs that must be banned for a while when I was a kid), then the city can claim that "pit bulls bite people three times as often".
Nobody needs 3 kinds of pit bulls.
When I was a kid Dobermans were the devil's breed.
Don't ignore the danger of Rottweilers.
Who, in my experience are also sweet dogs
I wish they'd just stuck to banning Pit Bulls that came with Bayonet Mounts and High Capacity Feeders.
German Shepherds are definitely the evil breed.
Well, the Nazis were fond of them.
/Oh shit, that's Godwin's Law in action.
Especially a certain Nazi. Fuehrer cats prefer Blondis!
https://beincrypto.com/us-senator-demands-answer-over-sbf-lavish-donations-to-democrats/
Once standing second for Democrat political funding has dropped off the list following the collapse. But even if the donator went away, US Senators are now asking questions to Joe Biden-led administrations over these donations.
If pit bulls are so dangerous, why do cops use German Shepherds?
What about the dangerous “bears in trunks”?
What do swimming bears have to do with biting dogs?
Trunks of cars, sarc. Trunk bears.
Pit Bears?
(Pit Bear Terriers? I dunno.)
Since sarc has the memory of a goldfish.
https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/?comments=true#comment-9176512
Goldfish in trunks?
Touche.
I'm used to you taking things out of context, intentionally misinterpreting things I say or just making shit up, but now you're accusing me of forgetting conversations I wasn't part of?
That's new.
It was yesterday!
Dude, follow JesseAz’s link and then look for my part in the conversation. It’s not there. He’s accusing me of forgetting a conversation that I never had. You don’t think that’s retarded?
"now you’re accusing me of forgetting conversations I wasn’t part of?"
sarcasmic
September.9.2021 at 11:59 am
I’M EVERYONE AND EVERYWHERE!!!!!!! I DONT EAT OR SHIT OR PISS OR FUCK OR NOTHING!!!!!
Every time you all bring that up, you demonstrate that you are not serious about discussing the concept of negligence from a libertarian perspective.
So let me ask again, maybe this time it will be answered:
If a person *unintentionally* causes harm to another, via actions that the person should have known would have caused harm, what if any culpability does that person have in the harm that he/she caused? Hmm?
Every time you all bring that up, you demonstrate that you are not serious about discussing the concept of negligence from a libertarian perspective.
LOL
"C'mon guys! I was serious about the 'trunk bears' thing. Quit laughing! Why won't anybody take me seriously?"
That's "super serial".
I am serious about discussing the concept of negligence from a libertarian perspective. Are you? Clearly not.
Poor Lying Jeffy.
You need some better analogies.
"One cannot have a serious discussion of negligence from a libertarian perspective without also discussing the seriousness of trunk bears."
My favorite rothbard essay was about bears living in trunks.
Why did you accuse me of forgetting a conversation I wasn't part of?
Just curious. Because it seems really retarded to post a link to comments where I posted zero times as proof that I forgot something.
Ask chemjeff about bears in trunks, sarcasmic.
I'm waiting for ML to post his "gotcha" link where when he mutes 'sarcasmic' it mutes other handles, but not this one. To him that's proof that I'm a sock. Talk about retarded. Not that I'll see it. He's on mute until he can stop acting like a child.
This post wasn’t childish at all, however.
You mean the one that I did on the very Roundup page you challenged me, that included almost a dozen examples but you ignored, and then spammed the various threads saying I hadn't, and then when I posted a link under every spammy comment you made, you ghosted them all? You mean those gotcha links Sarcasmic?
Your mendacity is only exceeded by your stupidity, you drunken piece of garbage. If your going to claim victory and start flinging shit, maybe first check out the finish line.
ML replied. Did he post a link to his proof that this account has never run under other names, but another account has run mine and others? By that I mean you block the sarcasmic on his linked post, and other names disappear. But this one does not. That's proof that this account is not the sock, and that someone else was socking this account. Did he admit that he was wrong to accuse me of being the sock and apologize like a man?
Yeah. Right.
Now he's pretending to have suddenly muted me so that he doesn't have to admit he ghosted and ignored the links I gave, and take the "L" for being a lying retard.
Sarc may be stupid but he's always predictable.
I am serious about discussing the concept of negligence from a libertarian perspective
And your go to for that was a bear in the trunk of a car that somehow got loose, maimed a person, then climbed back into the trunk of the same car. Was it Yogi bear's dark twin? Boo Boo after a long bout with depression? Was there an errant pic-a-nic basket involved?
That defines serious discussion for you.
Trunk Bear sounds like a Hood Rat!
Because there is nothing to discuss.
Aside from the general principles of Caveat Emptor, live and let live, the NAP and free association, negligence is a collectivistic punishment. There's nothing libertarian about it.
This isn't an argument against such laws, but they aren't founded in the individualist realm.
"negligence is a collectivistic punishment. "
No it isn't. It's just that Chemjeff has to create an absolutely absurd and tortured analogy to try and illustrate his very bad understanding of "negligence".
Negligence is an important attribute for establishing culpability especially in torts. Consider that a man accidentally shoots a child. Does he bear (hah!) responsibility for that? What if he was at a firing range, and the child snuck out behind the targets? That is a different set of circumstances than if he was just shooting randomly towards a forest where other people are camping.
Understanding who was negligent in these cases helps to determine who is actually at fault.
"If a person *unintentionally* causes harm to another, via actions that the person should have known would have caused harm, "
This is your mistake. You insist that someone "should have known" that a bear was in the trunk of their car. This is why you get laughed at. You honestly assert that a person should be culpable for the absurdly unlikely case that a random act of nature happens to involve them.
It is also noteworthy that your entire construction was wrong, and yet you are still here arguing the bad point.
Your moral scenario only works if one accepts the premise that vaccination from COVID was effective at preventing a person from catching, carrying and transmitting the disease.
Now flash forward a year, and you are still doubling down on this. Not a shred of contrition that the narrative premise you pushed was wrong. Vaccinated people still catch the disease. They still carry the disease. And they still transmit the disease. So your entire premise was 100% off track, even before trying to make your moral argument.
But do you cop to that? No. You just continue to assert that libertarians aren’t “dealing” with an important issue that you won’t even admit your errors on.
Vaccinated people still catch the disease. They still carry the disease. And they still transmit the disease. So your entire premise was 100% off track, even before trying to make your moral argument.
Which was exactly what I told Jeffy last year. His metaphor unquestionably conflated being unvaccinated with being infected.
The playbook is dissemble, deflect, distract and Jeffy scored a hat-trick that day.
Well yeah, but if the bear is muzzled and de clawed it might never get out of the trunk! Hah!
We need a new breed of dachshund that the police can use to wrap up suspects/criminals. That way, they can just unspool to the dog back at the station.
precision, consistency
Do you want a rifle you can put rounds on target at 200 yards, or a bazooka that occasionally misfires
Or, at least, a hand grenade vs. a claymore.
play more with Claymore.
Because pit bulls are so dangerous.
I worked in Liability claims for a while. Pit bulls were the overwhelming majority of dogs in dog bite cases (90% or so of the cases I handled). They were particularly terrible with children. Most of the time I was looking at a dog who was "a good boy" who had never done anything wrong before. I had the video of one of them where a "good boy doggo who had never done anything wrong" ripped the backside off of a toddler.
German Sheperds came up the next amount, but their bites tended to be small nips or scratches, if anything. My theory was that it came from the shepherding instinct, and they viewed kids as their sheep that needed to be herded and would nip them to keep them in line.
Did they follow the media guide to identifying pit bulls?
https://realpitbullfacts.weebly.com/pit-bulls-in-the-media.html
I will admit there is a big incentive on the plaintiff side of these cases to call the dog a Pitbull because of the stigma against them. It leads to higher jury awards as if the owner of the dog was keeping a tiger or wolf. The media in general seems to rely on the word of plaintiff attorneys entirely too often.
Coming from the defense side though, Pitbulls were the majority of the dog bite cases I handled, and it wasn't even close. Where the breed wasn't outright identified as Pitbull (Came up as Unknown or mixed on the report) the dog ended up being part or all pit. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
Check if the “nice Pit Bull@ had a previous owner before landing in the home of normies.
I wonder is it because pit bulls bite more often, or that when they bite they do damage?
Those breeds clamp on like a vise and then shake their entire muscular bodies, as opposed to biting and letting go. So yeah, they do a lot more damage.
They might also bite more often. I have no idea.
Both. I'm again going anecdotally, but Pitbulls were not only the majority of the claims, but held the number one slot in dollars per bite.
Part of this is the stigma that they get, meaning plaintiff attorneys know that and are more likely to litigate a case involving a Pitbull. They're also right at eye level with a lot of the kids they bite, so they'd rip a lip or cheek in the bite resulting in a facial scar. On a young boy or girl, this typically is going to result in a significant amount for disfigurement, even if the damage seems superficial.
And as sarcasmic mentions, they are more likely to bite and hold on, rather than nip and let go. I mentioned elsewhere here about a video of a Pitbull going after a toddler and getting the little boy on the backside. He did the whole bite and shake thing. The video alone had us asking what the policy limits were.
And a large part of it is that people not only stereotype pitties as biting dogs, but identify large biting dogs as pitties - mostly inaccurately.
Pitties aren't even large dogs. They run from about 30-60 pounds, with most being 40-50. That's smaller than the bottom end of a Lab (50-110) or Standard Poodle (50-75), for example, and much smaller than a German Shepard (65-95), Rottweilers (80-130), or Dobermans (60-100). For some reason people think they're bigger than they actually are.
But their jaw strength is off the charts and their "lock" makes them almost impossible to release when they latch on. That leads to much more damage when they bite. Combine that with the negatuve streotype they carry around and they often get singled out.
It's the opposite of what we see as a Lab rescue. Labs have such a good reputation as "family dogs" that people will label dogs as a "Lab mix" whose parents probably weren't even friends of friends of a Lab.
Appearance can be deceiving. We brought in a small group of 6 month old littermates that looked (and still look) 100% Lab. But they were from a pair of ethical breeders where one if their males got loose when one the other one's females was in heat. The male was a German Shepherd and the female was a Golden Retriever, both purebreds. Not a speck of Lab in either of them. But they look like purebred Labs.
The gap between what a dog looks like and what it is can be vast.
“If pit bulls are so dangerous, why do cops use German Shepherds?”
Because cops think of civilians as sheep? …and Border Collies are too smart to work for the government.
Fun fact: It wasn’t just the Nazis who used German Shepherds as concentration camp guard dogs. The Soviets did too. (Wouldn’t surprise me if the North Koreans still do.)
For mauling inmates, food, or both? 😉
https://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-twitter-accounts-reinstated-since-elon-musk-took-over-2022-11
Musk, who has previously referred to himself as a "free speech absolutist" is wielding his power, making changes to the site on a whim.
Here are the accounts that have been restored:
Trump is back, James Lindsay is back.
It's a good start.
marjorie taylor greene's personal account was banned for "Covid misinformation"
She'll be back soon and the lefty tears will be so delicious
and they let Andrew Tate back on. Elon is amazing.
I don't know anything about that guy, but keep seeing his name thrown around.
PrIvAtE cOmPaNy
It is only private when publicly owned by large ESG investment firms like Blackrock and Vanguard.
Yes, it is. Which is why Elon can do whatever he wants regarding content moderation.
It's good to see that Alex Jones didn't make the cut. That guy is the lowest form of life on the planet. Torturing grieving parents to make a buck? Fuck that guy.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1594437136731750401?t=LT2lGBml7mEAuQO2QOdaFA&s=19
"Face the Nation" guest @profgalloway claims Russian intelligence manipulated Elon Musk's poll to get Trump reinstated on Twitter. If you're wondering what his evidence is -- well, it's not that kind of show
[Link]
It's sitting there next to the evidence that the election was stolen.
You mean here?
https://hereistheevidence.com/
The leftist narrative says it is false. That's good enough for most democrats.
Well, leftists and all of the evidence that passes the smell (and evidentiary) test. Including the CyberNinjas, who desperately wanted to reach a different conclusion than they did.
Of course if you see The Gateway Pundit as fact-based journalism, James Wohl as a credible source, and Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell as crack lawyers, you would come to a different conclusion than reasonable people.
The funny thing is, there was a bot dump overnight changing the results from 55-45 reinstate to 51-49 reinstate.
Inadequate fortifications
So... Russian intelligence did manipulate Elon Musk’s poll to get Trump reinstated on Twitter, they're just incompetent at it. I guess they've lost their touch since 2016. 😉
Yeah, not enough widespread fraud to change the outcome.
Not that it matters. This ain't a democracy. Fuck 'em.
Russian Intelligence...or 20 sweaty dudes on 4chan. Either way.
The storied history of the special prosecutor Garland deemed as unbiased and fair. Multiple targeting of GOP politicians as public integrity unit and working with Lois Lerner regarding the IRS targeting of conservative groups.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/from-the-hague-to-obamas-irs-scandal-meet-jack-smith-the-new-special-counsel-to-investigate-trump
They seriously are going with special counsel 2.0 gambit?
Years of Russia hysteria, Comey, Muller, 2 impeachments, and a failed FBI raid (fishing expedition)?
Seriously, Trump has to be the cleanest fucking person alive to not be in prison right now.
I'm just amazed the found 2 sets of prosecutors that had their high profile convictions overturned 9-0 at the Supreme Court having justices rebuked by the judges in both cases.
FTA: The DOJ said he will return to the U.S. from the Netherlands after he recovers from a recent bicycle accident
Sounds presidential.
The warning tap to make sure he does as he is told.
Interesting tidbits...
In the case against McDonnell, Smith’s team won initially — a jury convicted McDonnell on 11 corruption-related felony charges. The Supreme Court later overturned the conviction in a ruling rebuking the prosecution for its “boundless” interpretation of the law.
In May of 2014, Richard Pilger, then the director of the DOJ’s Election Crimes Branch, told congressional investigators that the DOJ-Lerner meeting was set up at the behest of Smith to discuss campaign finance law. More specifically, Smith wanted to discuss the IRS being “more vigilant to the opportunities from more crime in the … 501(c)(4) area,” Pilger said according to Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), then chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
Democrat mega-donor’s bankrupt company owes $3,000,000,000.
https://www.kabc.com/2022/11/21/democrat-mega-donors-bankrupt-company-owes-3000000000/
Yet somehow SBF could be the second largest donor to the Democratic Party this election cycle. Money laundering, anyone?
I don't know if it was even as intentional as money laundering as that he thought he could get away with it and those donations got him invites to fancy cocktail parties whee he could show up and dress like a slob.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it certainly could be intentional money laundering. I'm just warning that it could be even stupider than that. 😉
Investment in the company by Ukraine tells me it’s money laundering.
Pretty sure he was just an empty vessel doing what he was told. They were likely grooming him to fill Epstein's role.
Nothing is going to happen to this guy, he's too well connected to the dems and has secrets that wont come out. He wont be Arkancided either, mums an daddums won't approve.
Firebombing cop cars will get you less time than non violent parading in a capital. And the judge will even call you remarkable.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2022/11/20/besotted-judge-calls-leftist-muslim-lawyer-who-firebombed-police-car-a-remarkable-person-n1647500
That's pretty fucking sick.
Kill them both.
Pitbulls are wonderful friendly, happy dogs and great with kids, until the day they aren't and they savage the family. Almost every time you read a story about a dog going nuts and killing a kid there's a pitbull involved.
This happened last month: 2 Children Killed, Mother Hospitalized After Family Pit Bulls Attack Them Outside Tennessee Home
I roomed with a guy who had pitbulls. They were wonderfully goofy, loving things that were a joy to play with. They slept in his bed with him a accompanied him everywhere, there was a genuine affection and loyalty towards him from the dogs too. That didn't stop one of them from taking half his scalp off a few years later though.
Something cracks in those dogs, they're normal for years and then one day they're not.
That isn't to say I support banning pitbulls, but breeders and owners need to step up their responsibility, quit lying about the real risks, and accept liability.
Agree with this.
Every time we have a dog attacking a kid (or adult) it is a good bet its a poorly trained or abused : pitbull, rot, boxer, german sheppard. That covers pretty much all of the ones that consistently come in.
But when its the "loving, wonderful, wouldn't hurt a fly, 'well trained' family dog" that randomly snaps? 100% pitbull.
Dont necessarily agree with banning them, but the propaganda that all breeds are equal is horseshit.
Matches my experience as an adjuster. It's one of those things where if my kids were to come home from a visit to the animal shelter with a Pitbull and beg me to let us keep it, it would go back to the shelter, or I would take it out back and shoot it.
They're simply not worth the risk, and I don't understand people's obsession with them.
I had a claim where a Pitbull attacks a kid, and the dad beats the dog to death with a shovel, and then the owner of the dog is trying to tell me that I shouldn't accept liability on their behalf because their "good boy" was killed unjustly. I would counter with a "I am just your adjuster, and not your lawyer and cannot give you legal advice. With that in mind, do not ever repeat what you just said."
Our homeowner's policy simply does not allow several dog breeds, Pitbull first among them.
That isn’t to say I support banning pitbulls, but breeders and owners need to step up their responsibility, quit lying about the real risks, and accept liability.
66% of our broodlings would murder your pitbull if attacked, return the corpse, and tell you to train your dog better because somebody else would sue the pants off of you, the other one isn't even 10 yet. What more do you want from us?
Oh, you meant *dog* breeders and *dog* owners. Yeah, they should probably do better too.
Pit bulls were literally breed for dog fighting. They are breed to be aggressive and snap
quit lying about the real risks, and accept liability.
The law needs to require liability. It should be: whatever your dog does, you did. If your dogs bites someone, you're guilty of assault. If your dog kills someone, you're guilty of murder. Send a few of the dog owners to prison and watch the popularity of Pit Bulls plunge.
I don't think I know any dog of any breed that hasn't been guilty of something that would be a violent crime if a person did it.
I'm sorry to hear you've had such a negative experience with dogs.
Replace “dog” with “gun” and you have the heart of my belief about where gun legislation should be. No bans, no large-capacity stupidity, no “assault weapon” nonsense.
What is done with your gun is your reponsibility. If you cannot secure your gun, that is your failure. No one else’s.
That would definitely make the percentage of responsible, accountable, and trustworthy gun owners skyrocket.
I agree, but since holding gun owners responsible for what is done with their gun would require gun registration, trying to enact that would ignite the hair of the SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED EVER AT ALL PERIOD crowd.
I guess I just don't get how registration equates to infringement.
I understand the paranoid people believe that registration will lead to confiscation, but I don't see the Constitutional argument against gun registration.
"A federal court has upheld an Iowa city's ban on pit bulls and dogs that look like pit bulls. Since 2005, Council Bluffs has banned residents from owning "any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits" of one of those breeds."
Consider it affirmative action for other dog races.
"As to the plaintiffs' claim that the city couldn't judge a dog's breed simply by its looks, the city countered with a study showing visual identification was accurate 15 percent of the time."
The city would be more justified to ban dogs by the looks of their owners, especially MAGA hats and NRA T-shirts.
"COP27 countries strike deal to create climate fund for at-risk nations"
[...]
"The Biden administration has signed onto a UN-backed agreement to pay poor countries dealing with extreme weather disasters worsened by climate change.
Biden’s special climate envoy John Kerry was part of the deal making at the UN climate summit in Egypt that established a long-discussed fund early Sunday that some call reparations from rich countries with high carbon omissions..."
https://nypost.com/2022/11/19/cop27-countries-poised-to-make-deal-on-historic-climate-fund/
Is this the 4th branch of the federal government?
It's the 4th branch of double-fistfucking the world economy in the ass for the benefit of the well connected... So, yeah, sounds about like "federal government" should work nicely as a synonym.
pit bulls are no more or less dangerous than similarly sized dogs of other breeds.
Bullshit
This is one of those "do you believe me or your own lying eyes" moments. I wonder how some of these statistics come to be, and I know from experience that oftentimes shelters try to hide the fact that the dogs they're adopting out are part Pitbull, because otherwise they'd never be adopted. A bite claim would come in and the breed would be "unknown" or "Mixed." The picture or video of the dog or the bite would come in and without fail, it'd be a pit.
Insurance Actuaries don't have the benefit of getting to believe propaganda. Many insurance companies will not write a homeowner's liability policy on person who owns a Pitbull. The tens of thousands of dollars I would write in claims checks on a monthly basis to victims of pitbull bites in settlements was proof that the caution was warranted.
Dogs listed as "mixed-breed" accounted for 3.3% of all human dog-bite related fatalities from 2005-2016. "Unknown" came in at 3.1%.
Its retard level gaslighting
'A good ruling for freedom of speech and academic freedom: Once again, a federal court has blocked Ron DeSantis' "Stop WOKE Act," which the court says would "prophylactically muzzle professors from expressing certain viewpoints."'
Silly Ron. Muzzling professors and banning certain viewpoints is the job of the elite-collective.
It doesn't make sense since they muzzled speech while acting as an employee, not on their own time. The ruling invents a new class of protected speech for employees but only school employees.
Wait, I’m getting confused m. Don’t muzzles belong in the Pit Bull story?
What Elon is doing is a revolt by entrepreneurial capital against the professional-managerial class regime that otherwise everywhere dominates (including and especially large tech companies), and that same PMC (which includes the media) is treating it as an act of lèse-majesté.
In Burnham’s formulation, this new managerial class would supplant the former business-owning bourgeois and even capital itself as the elite ruling class.
Most woke ‘labor’ scandals in tech are an entitled middle-management class at odds with founders.
Elon simply defenestrating the entire HR regime, the ESG grifters, the Skittles-hair people with mouse-clicking jobs who think themselves bold social crusaders rather than a parasitic weight around any organization’s neck, is an intolerable overturning of the social order.
Twitter *must* fail after the purge of such a former elite. For if Twitter does not fail, if in fact it manages to emerge stronger than before, then what sort of example would this set for every other organization similarly captured by this elite? Unthinkable.
Oddly enough, despite all the calls from the elite leftists who claim Elon has ruined twitter, its over, worst ever, and then get banned for knowingly violating TOS...
They cant seem to get off Twitter. They are so desperate to be on it in fact, that they use dead relatives or spouses accounts (Griffin, Ethan Klein) to sign on.
Its a sickness.
That’s why he won’t fail.
Without approval of congress, bidens Whitehouse is implementing a quiet backdoor amnesty policy.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/biden-opens-secret-amnesty-door-swamping-border-facilities
That’s not the kind of “backdoor” policy Joe had in mind.
Probably not the "backdoor" policy Buttplug has in mind either.
Since 2005, Council Bluffs has banned residents from owning "any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits" of one of those breeds.
So, if you've got a litter of pit bull puppies you don't want, I know a place where you can drop them off.
Release the hounds.
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As an epidemiologist I find myself frequently shaking my head sadly and in disbelief over the abuse of science in the news and in court. The first two stories above both contain misstatements about the science and downright bad science. Ninety marijuana smokers is at best a pilot study which scientists use to test the feasibility of investing in a larger more scientifically valid study. It should never be used to make policy or legal decisions. And in the case of the dog breeds, it's likely that the science was valid and was seriously abused by the courts. Especially after Rule 702 was adopted by Federal courts they should never have allowed the "Fifteen Percent Accurate" statement into evidence; and ruling against a good scientific conclusion that terriers were no more likely to bite looks like legislating from the bench to me.
Hey, if our sharpest legal minds and media pundits can't decide what science means, who can?
Sure, the authorities have an interest in protecting people from dangerous animals. I don't think many folks would object to a rule banning city dwellers from owning a lion. But pit bulls are hardly lions.
This is not the argumentation of a libertarian. Why is it so inherently obvious, on its face, that individuals cannot own a lion? Why does the city have the authority to ban private ownership of a lion? If you have the room and resources to properly take care of your lion and it remains on your property, what business of that is the government's?
There may be arguments you can make about regulations involving private ownership of non-domestic animals. But just throwing out the example of owning a lion as if it's so absurd on its face is not how you make a principled libertarian argument. ENB constantly feels like she's putting on a show of being a libertarian for the cool points.
this entire outfit is mostly lefty democrat voters that want to put on the libertarian bad boy jacket to give them an edgy façade of ‘free thinking’, or that they are really independent, etc. But when push comes to shove, they vote D, (or L if they know their vote wont matter), and they accept D narratives and policies as the ‘norms’.
Edit: And the only time they line up consistently with libertarians on 'freedom' is when its an issue that happens to align perfectly with the left (sex work, weed, abortion).
and they accept D narratives and policies as the ‘norms’.
Problem is, your team has been busy redefining reality as "a D narrative" and using your own social media bubble to create your own R narratives under the guise of "the real truth".
I see you responded to the bat signal, Bruce
But it's true. I am not at all surprised that you view other people recognizing reality as "adopting a D narrative".
You're probably right.
COVID much more likely came from a wet market than the COVID lab next door (that wasnt doing GOF, that we werent funding), vaccines were completely harmless and prevented infection, vaccines prevented spreading COVID, it was a pandemic of the unvaxxed, natural immunity was considered lesser than vaxxed, inflation was definitely not a problem, inflation was definitely only a transitory problem, theres no way we could have seen inflation coming, locking down the country unnecessarily while spending tons of money didnt fuck the economy, stories that make Biden look bad are Russian misinformation...
The 'reality' that I fail to recognize from the D narrative seems to lean heavily toward authoritarian policy that is both directly harmful and anti-liberty.
Oh also, it keeps turning out to be incorrect, theres that too.
John Podesta and Hillary Clinton ran a child pedophile ring out of the basement of a DC pizza shop
COVID lockdowns were instituted not in a misguided effort to protect public health, but for the specific deliberate aim of causing Trump to lose the election
There is no problem with gun violence in this country, anyone who brings up the disproportionate amount of gun violence in the US compared to other countries is just a left-wing gun grabber
Biden used the FBI to target parents who did nothing more than peacefully protest at school board meetings
There is an epidemic of school teachers "grooming" children to become gay and to normalize pedophilia
Trump never did anything wrong ever, and if you think he did, it just means you suffer from TDS
Jade Helm was a plot by Obama to practice the military takeover of Texas by the US Army
Elementary school teachers all across the country are teaching critical race theory to kids
COVID was a bioweapon synthesized by the Chinese government in retaliation for Trump's trade war against China
There was widespread fraud in the 2020 election, so much so that the election was stolen from Trump
Zuckerberg deliberately facilitated this fraud by donating money specifically to rig the vote in favor of Biden
The Jan. 6 riot was principally a false-flag operation orchestrated by Antifa
Because Trump once said "protest peacefully", it absolves him of any responsibility whatsoever for the events that transpired on Jan. 6 (which was orchestrated by Antifa anyway)
The most sensible members of Congress right now are Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, and Matt Gaetz
Transgender individuals are mentally ill perverts who want to molest girls in public restrooms
Did I miss any?
The “grooming” these days is mostly to get grade school kids to think they’re tranny and then go through irreversible surgery or drugs so they sterilize themselves and ruin their lives, while keeping it all secret from their parents lest their parents talk them out of it.
Except the statements I pointed out as D propaganda are provably false, while you listed several that there are provably true.
Nice attempt at playing, but all you did was demonstrate how the MSM bubble rotted your brain.
Edit: Also your list is made up of the extreme strawman version of an event that no person is actually arguing for, while the list I provided were daily headlines from all the MSM.
"Also your list is made up of the extreme strawman version of an event that no person is actually arguing for"
If you can see this, but not that your list has the exact same weakness, you might be an extremist.
"The Jan. 6 riot was principally a false-flag operation orchestrated by Antifa
Because Trump once said “protest peacefully”, it absolves him of any responsibility whatsoever for the events that transpired on Jan. 6 (which was orchestrated by Antifa anyway)"
You were mostly correct, except: Orchestrated by the FBI.
But here's where things get iffy: 50 of the 56 marijuana smokers in the study were also tobacco smokers. So while the study is being touted as finding that marijuana is especially dangerous, it's impossible to disentangle the effects of smoking marijuana here from the effects of smoking tobacco.
Why is it so hard to actually find a population that only smokes weed and not tobacco? I think it's worth asking the question about whether marijuana smoking also carries some of the deleterious effects of tobacco cigarettes. Not to demonize, just to have the information out there.
This has been done many times over the last 50 years. As with any political topic, you can find articles to support your agenda. It's pretty clear that the health effects of pot are not nearly as bad as smoking cigarettes, possibly due to the amount of cannabis consumed vs. tobacco for typical users of each substance.
Why is this the scientific article ENB questions the study versus anything related over the last two years of Covid?
The vast majority of marijuana smokers DO smoke tobacco.
Cite?
Twitter before Elon vs Twitter after Elon
Pretty shocking
The place looks more diverse without the woke white women. Who'da thunk
Even beyond that:
Before: "Let's all stop working so we can take a photo. Everybody into the unused conference room. Let me get my camera set up on this stand and set the timer so I can get in. No, you don't need to bring your laptop. Now, taller people in the back and everybody in the back stand up straight. The next row, lean down just a little bit, so we can get everybody's faces and everybody get lower with each row, people in the front sit down. OK, we're gonna take 3 photos and picK the best one for the post so everybody, smile and try to hold still and... Cheese! And... Cheese!..."
After: "Hey guys, good meeting, look here, gimme a thumbs up, and smile."
That Asian dude in the glasses is clearly the Ultimate Survivor!!
Gasp!
Anyone surprised that when looking to cut dead weight, keep the best employees (best coders/engineers), and specifically advertise that it would involve 'hard work' the white woke women quickly transformed into Asian men.
And reparations for Milton
https://www.flickr.com/photos/194775987@N02/52513160373/
Lawyers for an Indianapolis doctor who provided an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio
It is highly unlikely that this ever happened.
10 years old is way on the left side of the bell curve for starting menstruation in the IS.
It absolutely did happen. The man who impregnated her is in jail awaiting trial for rape.
You are conflating two things.
A man is "accused of rape" and awaiting trial (and may be innocent) but that does not equal "10 year old got an abortion"
I'm very skeptical this abortion ever happened
It’s not “a man”. It’s THE man who impregnated the 10-year-old victim. Unless you have evidence that everyone connected with the story is lying, your skepticism is out of your ass.
I'm skeptical that she had to travel in IN to have an abortion, assuming the rest is correct. WaPo offers their interpretation of Ohio law, but it's only a biased opinion:
"What Ohio abortion law says about a 10-year-old rape victim"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/14/what-ohio-law-says-about-10-year-old-rape-victim-abortion/
Apparently Ohio doctors lack your touching faith in Ohio's justice system.
It happened. It was the mother's illegal alien boyfriend who raped her, so it wasn't covered much in the news
I think the part to be skeptical about is no one in Ohio willing to do an abortion on her.
"It is highly unlikely that this ever happened."
You swallow widespread voter fraud without a jot of skepticism, but the highly-documented (as in reported to authorities) abortion of a 10-year-old rape victim who had to leave her home state for the procedure because of draconian abortion laws trips your bullshit detector? I think you need to have that thing serviced.
“A former anti-abortion leader says he was leaked a draft of the Supreme Court's decision in the 2014 Hobby Lobby case concerning the Affordable Care Act's birth control mandate.”
Speaking of leaks, is the investigation on who leaked the abortion decision going anywhere other than away?
Never. Because the leaker's potential law career ends if he/she is discovered.
Probably not. Betting odds are it was one of the three most conservative justices' staff/clerks who leaked it and the Chief Justice doesn't want the conservative majority to be undermined by the appearance of ideological partisanship.
> There's No Constitutional Right To Own a Pit Bull
At the same time, there is no compelling state interest to ban Pit Bulls.
Now do guns.
Reason Rundown
Yes, it would have been a million times worse under Hillary, and yes, fog of war, but that still doesn't excuse a lot of what he allowed to happen.
When Will Trump Apologize to the Country for His Stupid COVID Lockdown Response?
Why did Trump allow Anthony Fauci to become the unelected Health Czar of America? Within two months, this man showed he was not fit to be elected dog-catcher, let alone be allowed to fiddle with the nation’s economy. But allow it, Trump did. He deferred to Fauci and his cohort Dr. Deborah Birx. Both of them misled Americans multiple times over masks, lockdowns, and the risks to children and pushed idiocy like “social distancing” which had no basis in science or reality. It’s Trump’s fault we were all forced to stand on stickers at the grocery store.
Trump had other advisers close to him who were trying to tell him that Fauci and Birx were batsh*t crazy, like Dr. Scott Atlas, who called for a much less radical approach to the Wuhan Flu. But Trump didn’t sideline Fauci with someone like Atlas, though he had no obligation to give Fauci a microphone. Instead, we suffered. And suffered. And suffered.
Yes, it would have been a million times worse under Hillary, and yes, fog of war, but that still doesn’t excuse a lot of what he allowed to happen.
When Will Trump Apologize to the Country for His Stupid COVID Lockdown Response?
As someone unjabbed because Trump paid for the vax up front:
COVID vaccines cause TDS, prove me wrong.
Did everyone forget he tried to downplay the whole thing?
"Did everyone forget he tried to downplay the whole thing?"
No, but the powers-that-be hope you do.
Like when he banned flights from China and everybody called him racist and Democrats told them to go out on the town instead?
And then remember when they changed their mind as soon as impeachment theater failed?
Yeah, the big error of 2019-2020 was that COVID wasn't hyped enough.
The only "lockdown" Trump ever ordered was for three weeks when the disease first appeared (including stopping flights from China). And that was sensible, because it wasn't then obvious that Covid was not an emergency.
By the time state and local officials started ordering further lockdowns, it was obvious.
But he did encourage state lockdowns and let Fauci and company keep presenting themselves as the authoritative voices on the topic. He should have canned Fauci and Birx and put Atlas in charge of the federal response. Trump could have done some good there and completely failed to do so.
Yeah, Trump's biggest fuckup. And it was a bad one.
I was in Walgreens today. They still have those floor stickers. No one was wearing a mask though.
>>The dog owners argued ... isn't rationally related to legitimate government interests.
this. there are not bad dogs only bad dog owners. ban bad dog owners.
Which would you rather be bitten by—a bad Chihuahua or a good Pit Bull?
They’re an unpredictable, lethal dog breed built like a tank that only an exceptionally experienced dog trainer can make relatively safe for children. Unlike other “problematic” breeds, they aren’t even particularly loyal to their families and can turn on their owners and rip their faces off, seemingly unprovoked. It says a lot that the good dog owners typically rescue them from the bad ones who breed them to kill or to overcompensate.
fair enough. I've been around good ones and nobody ever bit anyone
Five people were killed and at least 18 others wounded in a shooting at a gay nightclub in Colorado Springs.
Did Joe Friday (of AR-15s make deer explode fame) go back to his village? I haven't seen him in a while.
davedave comes off like an angry JoeF
Davedave isis aa oneone tricktrick ponypony.
/I think he's another Shrike sock to due him defending Buttplug over the ban.
Joe Friday is probably really swamped being the world's best contractor
And MD! And rancher!
And bullshitter.
If my curse worked, Joe Friday died gasping for air. He worst gaslighting was always about COVID.
If so, you certainly have a cushy spot in heaven reserved for you.
Well well well. Alex Jones is moving money to avoid his judgment.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1594729637053186049
So would I. So would you.
I like the comments about hunting down the recipients and finding them guilty as well. AJDS.
I'm not so sure Jeffy would. He's not that smart.
It is likely illegal.
He has lawyers helping him do this correctly.
"He has lawyers helping him do this correctly."
And you know this how? Helping to hide assets from a lawful judgement doesn't seem like something your average, non-organized-crime-connected lawyer would be willing to do.
Plus this judgement will be reduced to almost nothing on appeal.
*eyeroll*
You would commit fraud to avoid paying a judgement against you? And you think everyone else would, too?
I don't think you are as typical a person as you think you are. Most people don't think it's normal to casually embrace criminal activity.
There's no faster way to ensure Jones never pays a dime than to vastly overcharge the amount.
Many years ago, copyright troll kings RIAA tried to get $1 trillion (!) out of Russia, on the grounds that each distribution should be counted. They got nothing.
Do you think the judgement against him was just?
>>The latest tech job casualties: Carvana?
my s.o. bought a new Honda online w/o driving it. I can't imagine
Wait, let me guess. Bought it because it was “cute”.
no no she's smarter than all of us combined ... did research and everything ... except drive the vehicle first which is just alien to me
^Tell me you didn't have sex until your wedding night without telling me you didn't have sex until your wedding night. 🙂
love it.
I'm pretty sure all tech companies are cutting thousands of jobs each
shells of real companies.
So, do we have a list of all of the investigations that the House Republicans want to do?
So far, it’s: 1. Hunter Biden’s Laptop (the new Benghazi!) 2. Fauci, and anyone who was ever in the same room as Fauci 3. The raid on Dear Leader by the FBI 4. The special counsel appointed to investigate Dear Leader
Anything else?
Edit: Oh, let's add:
5. Money to Ukraine
6. FTX and how that somehow goes back to Biden, right?
Of the one's you listed, do you think any are legitimate?
Maybe in a theoretical sense. But I do not trust Republicans to investigate these matters. They will turn it all into a circus run by clowns who just want to score points rather than to seek the truth.
So you trust the Democrats behind them to investigate them? Fox and hen house, there, Jeffy?
I don't trust either side to do so honestly.
which side do you trust to investigate Fauci and FTX more?
The party that is completely in bed and/or funded by them, or the side that doesn't have massive conflict of interest?
How about neither?
The chance of either side not having a conflict of interest is almost non-existent. You know that some of the FTX investors or management supported Republicans.
There is no such thing as ideological money from companies. Money is a means of influence and no company would put all their eggs in one partisan basket or the other. Someone at FTX has the Republican influence.
Investigating/prosecuting Fauci is a conservative fever dream. The guy has been working in relative obscurity, with an impressive professional record, since the 80s. Now, suddenly, he is grossly incompetent? C'mon.
He may get kicked around by a bunch of wannabes who are pandering to the base, but Republicans will have, at best, a 5 seat majority in the House. Persecuting Fauci for not knowing everything about Covid from the beginning and blaming him for not jumping to the same baseless conclusions that the right did isn't something the Rs who won close races can afford to do. The environment won't get any better than it was earlier this month. If they won in a squeaker this year, 2024 will have them terrified.
It's almost like people who are professional investigators, rather than professional bullshitters, would have to look into it if you want it to be done right. Crazy, I know.
which ones?
The one that strikes me as the most worthy of investigation is the money going to Ukraine. I would like to know if the money going there is being well spent. So I would like to see that the expenditures are being properly audited. But I don't trust Republicans to do this, they will turn it into a clown show.
Which ones do you think are legitimate topics of investigation?
Money going to Ukraine absolutely.
Fauci is tied with that.
But what about HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP?????????????
you're right, maybe for that one we hire a hollywood producer and air the show trial on primetime
Hunter's laptop is part of the story of the corruption in Ukraine.
We all saw how professional the hearing have been the last two years.
You mean slowly and methodically interviewing people, putting together a timeline, and identifying key players?
You're right. I wouldn't have believed that a congressional committee was capable of being this careful, deliberate and largely hyperbole-free in something as large and complicated as the J6 investigation.
I'm gobsmacked that it didn't devolve into a shambolic and substance-free partisan exercise like the Benghazi hearings. I still don't know how they managed it.
'.....pit bulls consistently rank at the top of the list for attacks, and by a wide margin. (Rottweilers generally rank a distant second)...US Army won't allow them as pets on their bases......but by all means let's compare them to lions, rattlesnakes, black bears instead of e.g. domesticated animals, ..as if lions is a logical or common sense choice when debating this issue.
Pit Bulls 64.8% (253 deaths)
Rottweilers 11% (43 deaths)
German Shepherd 3.8% (15 deaths)
etc.
It's disproportionate.
Are the populations of these 3 breeds the same?
AKC places German shepherds 4th, rottweilers 8th in popularity. Pit bulls aren't an AKC-recognized breed, so it's difficult to know. A lot of them are bred underground because they're used in dogfighting---because they're extremely muscular and tenaciously aggressive. They're also a lower-class status symbol to show how big and bad you are, kind of like a leased muscle car with illegal tints or an oversized truck.
At the dog park and in the neighborhood around us, I'd guess that 20%+ of dogs are some breed mix that most would call pitbulls. Ours is some sort of boxer mix that also looks like a pitt. From my experience, it's a very common/popular type of dog. There is a problem of bad owners and breeders making these strong dogs more dangerous.
All that said, anecdotally I've been attacked by basically every small dog breed. I've also been attacked by several German shepherds, chows, rotties, dobermans, labs, and mutts (I've had a lot of dogs try biting me where they've had the opportunity.) I've encountered aggressive pitbulls, but never been attacked by one. In part that is due to good owners taking precautions.
I don't think there is anything in the US Constitution ensuring a right to own pittbulls or a dangerous animal of any sort. That means it would be under the domain of the state or municipality. I would fight it if they tried instituting a ban near me, but it seems legal. My bigger question is how existing animals are treated in an area with such bans. Are all pitbulls confiscated/terminated? That's a due process issue where the individual animals would need to be proven to have caused harm.
Pit Bulls make up approximately 6% of the dog population, according to the figures I've found.
Wait—they’re gay?
I've seen seasoned animal handlers hang out with adult lions, tigers, and jaguars without getting mauled to death. It's not impossible. Just like it's not impossible to be the owner of a happy-go-lucky pit bull you can trust around children and strangers.
It just isn't likely. Yes, a typical pit bull is more comparable to a predator raised in captivity around humans than to a typical beagle or labradoodle.
Come on, man! Everybody wish Joe a happy birthday!
OK...
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you,
Fuck you Joe Biden,
Happy birthday to you.
Let’s hope it’s his last.
He isn't a "young 80."
Good discussion here on how to reform the H1B visa system.
https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1594715913508593667
One idea is to offer a clear path to citizenship.
LOL. Oath Keeper attorney compares the "stack formation" that they used during the Jan. 6 riot to the Three Stooges.
https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1594716793049841666
He's getting warmer to the correct answer
Oh yes, Elon is nearly as smart as you are.
• "Lawyers for an Indianapolis doctor who provided an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from Ohio told a judge Friday that Indiana's attorney general should not be allowed to access patient medical records for an investigation into undisclosed complaints," the Associated Press reports.
Mmmhmm...
They should just say one of the complaints is from an illegal immigrant who doesn't want their name disclosed:
Holy Jesus what a fucked up case to hang your "Baby murder should be legal." hat on.
Well, it isn't baby murder, so there's that. Unless you anti-abortionists have finally put forth a factual basis for your belief that personhood begins at conception? No? Still nothing?
How shocking.
As a way to show that the only victim in this whole thing (the 10 year old girl) shouldn't be victimized again by having to bear a rape baby, you couldn't ask for a better case.
The mother is an apologist for her rapist boyfriend so though she should, she isn't interested in helping her daughter.
The rapist is a child rapist. Best case is he manages to die slowly and painfully, but he clearly isn't interested in helping the girl.
The anti-abortionists want to pretend that nothing justifies abortion, even this nightmare, so they definitely aren't interested in helping her.
The only people who did right by this child were the ones who got her out of her ban-happy state and the abortion provider who actually acted in the girl's best interest.
The Indiana AG who is trying to jam himself into the medical files of this victim on some mysterious "complaint" is not just uninterested in helping the victim, he is actively hurting her. Hint: if you won't even reveal what the complaint is, you're probably not acting in good faith.
By trying to invade her medical records in pursuit of a political goal, he has firmly positioned himself as the second-worst person in this whole clusterfuck. And having a child rapist barely beat you for "who is worse" says a lot.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1594366873252028418?t=8kr8VvcvHNHmIf6FvISh2A&s=19
Over on Mastodon - the obscure refuge to which liberal journalists are fleeing in fear of free speech even though they can't figure it out - they're already banning each other over the most trivial infractions.
It's like a laboratory to study how censorship-happy rats behave.
A "journalist" group was started by super-woke Mega Ally @adamdavidson, late of @NewYorker. He just banned the trans activist @ParkerMolloy, late of Media Matters. Her crime? Accusing @pescami of being transphobic. His crime? Posting a NYT article on the harms of puberty blockers
These are the deeply neurotic, obviously unwell, vehemently intolerant left-liberal functionaries who - with scam "disinformation experts" and activist groups - have been controlling our discourse, dictating who can and can't be heard. The meltdown is because they lost this power
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Its why we are inundated with article after article, every day, about Elon and Twitter.
They are absolutely seething that he ruined their digital walled garden, and are totes happy its 'failing'...despite the fact that they cant seem to log off of it or stop writing breathless articles about it. Yup, they definitely dont want any of those sour grapes.
Oh! Look! nardz gives us another twitter link! If twitter dries up and blows away, will nardz also do so?
We can hope.
There's No Constitutional Right To Own a Pit Bull
Look, I don't like the guy's "music" either, but I don't think he should be banned.
Yes, but do you think you should be able to own him? Hmm?
Haha.
>>Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes was sentenced to 11 years and 3 months in prison.
how many commissary cookies do you think she costs?
While we're at it, can we ban all dog owners?
I'm as libertarian as it gets, but man, I've had it with dog owners: Not keeping them properly enclosed, poop along the roads and sidewalks, barking all the time, and now they bring them along inside of stores -- and not just pet stores.
F these people.
"I’m as libertarian as it gets,..."
You sure are. Why just invoke Article 35 of the constitution which states no one should have to deal with dogs!
Fuck off.
This is getting catty.
Pit bulls are responsible for what percentage of vicious dog attacks on children? Sorry, I'm fine with this. Hardly anyone is the dog whisperer.
No mention of Trump back on Twitter? Shocking.
Sure, the authorities have an interest in protecting people from dangerous animals. I don't think many folks would object to a rule banning city dwellers from owning a lion.
Oh, sure, "common sense" lion control. Pretty soon no one will be allowed to own a house cat.
OMG, it was only a couple months ago I encountered the people on Twitter who want all house cats to be kept inside because they are KILLING ALL THE BIRDS!!!
They TWEETED that?? Naught Puddy Tat!
Herr Misek thinks people should go to prison for lion.
"(1) Pit Bull type dogs are no more or less dangerous than other breeds of dogs"
BS! 6% of dogs are responsible for over 50% of human deaths caused by dogs.
That's almost identical to the stats on Black murderers.
What's the point of links to articles with pay walls? (NY Times). It's irritating af.
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